Fat liberation TikTok cringe | "Body dysmorphia is fatphobic!"
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These people have zero empathy. Their little world of, “me, me, me, me” is nauseating.
True, I don't understand, like for someone who is probably judge because your fat you should be able to empathize to those people who is also suffering pretty much the same thing like people with ED because you have body images issue, but these people has zero empathy at all and always act as if like all skinny people are fatphobic and we should all be fat because they are fat like hell, where did all their brain cells go?
Being fat is the ultimate privilege. It's a choice reserved only for people with enough money to eat more than their body requires to live (these people eat way more than they need). Also, inactivity is often associated with obesity. Most hard laborers are not this level of fat.
Check your privileged fat people and stop asking for more advantages because of your entitled choices.
@@gbas76 alot of people who struggle with obesity are usually lower class though
@@maddisonfender6590 In the developed world, you are correct. Keep imind that the poorest people in the US would be considered well off in the majority of countries around the world. People in impoverished nations work physically demanding jobs to make $500 a year. Compare that to a person on the lowest end in the US and there is a huge contrast.
Doing little, and overfeeding is not a problem for the truly poor around the world, it is a luxury only allowed by a certain level of wealth.
@@gbas76 okay but obviously we are talking about obesity in the western world, obesity is not a privilege in the western world
“Yeah I know you have an eating disorder, but I don’t care”
-Fat activists
Ironic
@Lalogue fair point
@Lalogue that’s true
The thing is.. my ED had nothing to do with looking fat! It had nothing to do with appearance at all really. For me it was about feeling empty. I was addicted to that empty feeling. Somehow being empty made me feel clean?? And secondly control. I loved controlling what I ate and feeling powerful because I had so much control I could override any hunger. I would set crazy goals ex. 48 hrs with no food. And would get a high off of those "accomplishments"
Its entitely fukked up but ya, it wasnt about not wanting to look like Plus size person. SO not all Anorexic people are fat phobic.
I admit I liked the FEELING of being small and not taking up too much space but again it wasnt a fear of LOOKING fat. So ya.
They care - a lot - because they take it as a personal insult. I do agree with what you said, though - you’re right - they don’t have any sympathy for anyone with an ED (unless it’s one that can cause weight gain/obesity).
The smug and condescending looks on their faces like they’re 100% right makes them even more infuriating.
They have the mentality of a middle schooler.
They look so self righteous and smug, I just want to shove their faces in the concrete.
It's what makes them look so much more like a clown 😂
That's what angers me the most
@@ekusu9326 the green hair and round faces make them look like clowns more so then how they act
the "just see yourself objectively" statement about body dysmorphia disorder is like telling people with depression to "just smile".
Why don't you just try to be happy
exactly! it’s honestly appalling how tone deaf these people are
exactly! how am I gonna watch a video/photo of me or look in the mirror and realize how i truly am when I CANT SEE IT
That's the thing that frustrates me. Body dysmorphia literally means that you see yourself in a way that is not accurate to your actual appearance! Can they not connect the dots? Do they need to go back to pre-k?
“IDC if you have ADHD, just focus more!” 🤡🤡🤡
“Why do y’all only bring up body dysmorphia when y’all are trying to silence fat people?”
Why do y’all only bring up “fat phobia” when y’all are trying to silence medical science?
BINGO
My mother had anorexia for the majority of my life. At her worst, she looked like a corpse. She was terrified of *her own body* gaining weight. She *never* made comments about anyone else’s body. She was *not* fatphobic.
Anorexia/mental illness ≠ fatphobia
I’m so over body “positive” people.
(btw my mother is in recovery and is doing really well at the moment)
I hope your mother continues to succeed at recovery!
Eating disorders are hell itself, like alcoholism or drug addiction and anorexia the worst imo. Growing up in that environment must have been very tough indeed and makes me wonder how you come out of that with a healthy relationship to food yourself. So glad your mother is doing better at the moment. Hearing these emotionally stunted people talking and generalising about other peoples problems with feeding themselves is nauseating to say the least, it leaves me speechless.
So happy for your mum recovery is a beautiful thing! - a girl recovered from Ana for two years
These people are totally narcissistic, though. Everything is about them. They are unable to empathise with someone with anorexia because they make it about themselves.
Facts. I have anorexia and my fear of gaining weight and becoming fat is nothing to do with me thinking fat bodies are lesser than thin ones. It’s because I use food as a way of control and gaining weight would mean I have lost that control.
Trust body positivity to make other peoples eating disorders about them lmao. They are obsessed with making BDD and anorexia about them for some reason
If being fatphobic is taking care of my weight and health, I don’t mind being called fatphobic. At this point, it’s not even offensive 🤷🏽♀️
Right..my body my choice. Im not going to feel guilty for wanting to be a healthy weight.
@@vianjelos I know! Its my body my choice untill....wait OH NO I'm taking great care of myself and loving it! I'd rather be fatphobic than to have such an immature mentality. I lost a total of 14 pounds in just a few weeks and I havent gained any back since then, I'm also continueing to go to the gym and eating healthy and basically not worry about the jealousy that these people have, if they were TRULY happy with their bodies they wouldn't be saying all that crap.
@@Briistheparty good on you! Do what makes YOU genuinly happy. And thats the issue with these kinds of people..they "claim" to be happy..but they arent. Because if they were, they wouldnt complain about other people and other peoples chocies so much.
@@vianjelos thats the fastest reply i've ever gotten lol. people being judgemental and saying that its fatphobia only adds to the stigma to people who are very sick
actually a conversation i had with my husband today on the way home from the gym
I hate, hate, haaaate when people make mental illnesses of OTHER PEOPLE about themselves. How self-centered do you have to be to feel offended by someone else’s struggles? How insecure do you have to be?
The ignorance, the audacity I- *screams into the void*
Period.
They're full of jealousy.
These people act sooooo confident and yet get all offended iver the thinvs others do with their bodies. Bro if you are sooo comfident and strong then why take EVERYTHING so personally
I would like to join your screaming into the void
they were like "you objectively look like this" just screems jealousy
"I'm not blaming anyone for their eating disorder but I'm blaming you for having fat phobia"
As someone with an eating disorder I would like to say ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???
like girl i don't give a shit if you're fat why are they so full of themselves
for people full of insecurity they sure are oblivious to how insecurity can show in other people
it's like saying you hate your brown hair because it's doesn't look good on you while it might look good on someone else
god these people always make everything about them like shut the hell up
Deadass if these people put as much effort into losing weight as they do to “fight fatphobia” they wouldn’t be fat lmao
People who are overweight to THAT degree can lose weight so easily, if you're eating that much literally cut out soft drinks and you will start to drop weight. They straight up don't think being obese is an issue.
I know right haha
For reall
What's the whole point, it takes effort and it's hard. They actually don't do anything, they just complain and it's easy
@@donttouchme9063 The point is to enjoy yourself and life more and longer, but if a communitiy of whiners is all you need, why bother...
This shit is triggering. Why do this people think everything is about them??? My body dysmorphia almost killed ME not them. And it's nice hearing your voice.
yeah the audacity is just awful. I have body dysmorphia too and sometimes i can't even look at my own face and these people think it's all about them
istg they think everyone is out to get them, completely delusional...
I also think people cant grasp the concept of "you can lose weight," you cant exactly...lose a disorder like Dysmorphia.
@@brunetteviking247 I’m so sorry and I hope you are doing better; BDD is hard to get over, and it sucks even more with people getting angry at you for talking about it
I hope you’re good now. I have bdd too and I sometimes cried just by seeing my face in the mirror, I had crisis’s when people took pictures without telling me and such. We can do this❤️
"look at yourself objectively!" she doesn't know what body dysmorphia is, right?
Looool. "You're depressed? WHy don't you go take a walk?"
@@verjiggawich I have treatment resistant depression (diagnosed by psychiatrist not social media) and I will say walking in nature specifically is a little bit helpful. It definitely isn’t a cure nor does it trump treatment, but it does help my mood and exercise also does some good.
as a formerly fat person who has lost weight i’ve lost friends who are fat because they said that was very fat phobic of me
good riddance!!! same here and trust me, you're better off without them. real friends want to see you happy and healthy and will be happy for you when you do good things for yourself. let them be miserable. you do you, boo.
Omg!!!!! You’re getting healthy and benefitting your own mental and physical health???
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We simply cannot be friends
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@@Dylan-hl1kt Lmfao I’m subbing to you-
You did not loose anything buddy
The point of dysmorphia is that they aren't able to objectively look at themselves. That's the whole point! It's not about fatphobia. It's about extreme control. Damn. These people are so hardcore entitled it's infuriating. They are such bullies and need to be called out.
It is very upsetting the amount of people spreading this type of nonsense.
@@funtietimes Honestly. Would they say to a person with schizophrenia "just be objective"? It's so insane.
@@Metonymy1979 they still somehow find a way to make themselves the victim
Holly!
4:58 So Tess Holliday claims that she has "anorexia" does that mean she too is fatphobic 🤔 is the queen of body positivity / fat acceptance fatphobic 😱
Good point!!
A lot of people misinterpret “anorexia”. I have a disease and sometimes when it flares it affects my mouth and it gets ulcerated. I couldn’t eat because it was painful so I chose not to even though I wanted to, I was more afraid of the pain so when I saw “anorexia” on my discharge papers for the reason for admission one time I was confused as hell and thought “I’m not thin wtf” and my doctor explained that it literally just means an individual who hasn’t eaten or eaten enough for a certain period of time. A lot of people mistake anorexia as someone INTENTIONALLY starving themselves for mental health/body dysmorphia. Personally I think Tess tried to use anorexia as an uno reverse card since a lot of people associate it with bad mental health and she just wanted people to stop criticism and change it to guilt or supportive comments instead.
@@caitswildecake2582I think you're a little confused, there is anorexia like you discribed it and there is anorexia nervosa which is a serious mental condition /eating disorder when people purposly starve themself because of body dismorphia. Hope that it's clear for you now.(sorry for my english btw)
@@Tyffany39 oh no no what I meant was that people ASSUME it’s 100% to do with being skinny and starving yourself for body image reasons. I wasn’t eating due to ulcerations in my mouth so I physically couldn’t I was just a little surprised to see “anorexia” written on my paper work because I had always had the belief that the criteria for being thin was being underweight but also having body image issues yet the entire time I was craving a fat maccies and wanted to eat so badly. Mine was caused by a physical illness not a mental one is what I meant
i was thinking this EXACTLY
This movement loves to shut down unsolicited medical advice, only to give unsolicited medical advice to those with eating disorders and body dysmorphia
Ikr! The hypocrisy is unreal
I bet they wouldn't turn down unsolicited fast food services. *Mouths open*
That's why no one should seek advice from the internet, especially from these fat activists who spread misinformation.
The entirety of this video made me mad. The claim that body dysmorphia is fat phobic is honestly repulsive to me. Knowing people who struggle and have struggled with it, it's not kind, it's horrible. So claiming it to be fat phobic is honestly horrible to people who actively struggle with body dysmorphia. I applaud you for getting through that video with a steady voice. Also, your voice is lovely!
Yes. People are out here struggling with _themselves_ and their are people calling them fatphobic for it.
I weigh somewhere between 47-52 and had body dysmorphia because my peers and elders kept criticizing the way I dressed and said I was dressing provocatively. So it had an affect on my thinking of the way I look and I reduced my food intake so much so that my weight was lying between 38-42. I didn't have the willingness to put on weight whatsoever. Even now I find it difficult to face the crowd without being conscious. It's really sad how people can understand what others are going through. One might not be able to understand the perspective of the other, but to empathize is the most humane thing they can do.
You have to be extremely insecure orself obsessed to make people's mental illnesses about yourself and take them as personal attacks. These people need to get a grip and mind their business.
Exactly, it made me so mad. I have an eating disorder caused by a mix of my mom checking to make sure I wasn't fat and my figure skating coach constantly telling everyone of my friends that they were too fat, need to lose weight, etc. I stopped skating at 16 and currently, at 21, still have body dysmorphia and relapse more often than I wanna admit, because at that time my coach would literally ridicule any of the girls who gained weight publicly. Like, I was terrified of gaining weight at the time because I didn't wanna be humiliated and wanted my coach to like me and that fear turned into extreme anxiety about gaining weight. It literally has nothing to do with fat people, it has to do with the way i was treated growing up. In my head gaining weight still means that I'm gonna be humiliated publicly and I'll do anything not to feel like that ever again. All because the shit that that woman did traumatized me as a kid and still haunts me to this day, not because I hate fat people or see them as less. Having these people say that I'm like this because I'm fatphobic feels about as invalidating as someone telling me that I don't have social anxiety, I'm just shy and need to try harder. For a group that loves to tell people to listen to them and stop invalidating their struggles, they sure love to invalidate other people's struggles.
As someone with an ED I don't think of others as fat I honestly don't care. Im too busy obsessing over the amount of calories I ate vs burned, and my size.
I hope you find healing 🎀
This!
@@hmsealey3243 i have an actual chart, a table i use to see how much I ate vs burned, honestly someone can be 10 kg more than me and the same height and all I’ll think is; They look so good compared to me. It is a fear of losing control more than fear of fat.
The thing is.. my ED had nothing to do with looking fat! It had nothing to do with appearance at all really. For me it was about feeling empty. I was addicted to that empty feeling. Somehow being empty made me feel clean?? And secondly control. I loved controlling what I ate and feeling powerful because I had so much control I could override any hunger. I would set crazy goals ex. 48 hrs with no food. And would get a high off of those "accomplishments"
Its entitely fukked up but ya, it wasnt about not wanting to look like Plus size person. SO not all Anorexic people are fat phobic.
I admit I liked the FEELING of being small and not taking up too much space but again it wasnt a fear of LOOKING fat. So ya.
@@doeeyes2 that’s exactly what I have
All of these women lack empathy and common sense, "YOU'RE FATPHOBIC IF YOU HAVE AN ED," are they even listening to themselves? They are jerks.
whenever they compare fatphobia with racism, homophobia etc makes me want to shrivel up into a ball and cry lmao
I noticed that a lot of these people use the same talking points from discussions about racism etc for fatphobia and it's just?? frustrating, I don't even know anymore
Glad to read such a comment :)
I think they trivialize these terms, which is just extremely dangerous. For example, what many do not know is that homosexuals were also killed in the camps. And that they compare something like that with their little problems is abnormal. Honestly if you get in an argument with somone about this topic just give them the cruel facts if they still talking back call them racist and Holocaust denier. Yes, it is brutal but the truth
exactly. i don’t understand why these people think that fatphobia could even compare to racism, homophobia and etc. we cannot change our skin color or our sexuality, but we can very much change our weight if we put in enough effort into it.
Fr and you can change your weight. Sure genetics can get in the way but for the most part you change your weight. While poc can't change their skin color and queer people can't change their orientations.
@FBI bokuto saves lives 💪💪💪
It's literally only valid for POC women to make that connection since they actually associated with harmful and racist stereotypes, but white women??? Oh hell no.
I just can't how wrong these tiktoks are. If you're homophobic you're not afraid of becoming gay you hate those who ARE gay, and if you're fatphobic you're not afraid of becoming fat but hate those who ARE fat. It's disgusting that these people pick on the severly ill and shame them even though it has NOTHING to do with fatphobia. stop inserting yourself into places where you don't belong.
Oh and btw, didn't their idol tess holiday say she has anorexia? So she's fatphobic then, right?.. RIGHT?
She also by definition can’t have anorexia because your BMI has to be under 18 to actually have it, otherwise it’s Bulimia (likely the restrictive type).
@@psychinteresting727 Atypical anorexia exists. Which is basically anorexia, just without the low BMI. Tess Holiday could have atypical anorexia, but she doesn't even fit into any category of that honesty. 🤷♀
THIS
They’ll jump thru all the mental hoops to give Tess a pass.
Also, Name me one other Ana celeb or influencer who posts or poses for 40% of their photos or video about joyously eating food. I’ll wait.
@@glittergoddess4136 in atypical anorexia you still have had to have lost a significant amount of weight though.
“Weaponise eating disorders” I’m done
the first one really made me mad. having body dysmorphia isn't a "choice". I can't wake up and look at myself in the mirror and see how am really I. Also body dysmorphia isn't just "being bigger" or "being fatphobic" (as they said), we see our body in weird portions sometimes. Or we feel we are smaller as we are.
Yeah, the fat acceptance community refuses to acknowledge that body dysmorphia is more than just seeing yourself as bigger. It can affect your face or make you see yourself as smaller. But that doesn't fit their narrative as well.
THANK YOU! I see myself as smaller than I am and it wasn't until I saw myself in a picture next to someone else that I freaked out because I couldn't believe that I was *that much bigger* than the other person. I just don't see the same thing in the mirror. It's partially due to my proportions as I have a shapely hourglass figure and I tend to gain weight pretty evenly. It's also due to everyone always telling me how great my body was and that I was thick, but not fat. Also my stomach was pretty flat for the longest. I only recently started to get a bigger stomach and that's when I realized that I need to lose weight.
one of the more notorious yters that fat activists like to stick up for is amberlynn reid and even she admits she sees herself as smaller than she really is. so either she is fatphobic at 500 lbs or *gasp* body dysmorphia, like all mental/emotional/personality disorders, is incredibly nuanced and varies from person to person.
yes! one morning i look in the mirror and my shoulders are huge!! next week my eyes are too small. i have no idea what i actually look like
Yeees! My body dysmorphia is mostly centered around my face and body proportions.
As a fat person, I find this entire “community” incredibly toxic and hateful. Just because someone doesn’t want to be fat doesn’t make them fat phobic. It means that they want the best for their bodies.
The comparison to acne is spot on. I had acne for over a decade and I would literally feel depressed seeing people with perfect skin complain about a tiny whitehead. But the fact that I had acne and others didn't wasn't a sign that the world hates people with acne. It was a sign that I hated myself.
If it’s fatphobic to have anorexia then I guess they think Tess Holliday is fatphobic 🤔
This is prime “hurt people hurt people” - these bullies were bullied. This is about feeling powerful. I just want it to stop
You, and everyone else in this comment section.
Wow. Some of these women have a profound inability to empathize with the circumstances of others. Anorexia is the most lethal of all psychiatric disorders. Shame on them for targeting individuals who need our support.
Yup. And a lot of the deaths from anorexia is suicide, which just makes them attacking them the way they do even more cruel
I didn't think it could get worse... but wow.... this is awful
"look at yourself objectively!" I CAN'T
People never cease to amaze me in how low one's IQ can go.
As I get older, I realize it can always get worse.
quite vile, honestly.
There is NO ROCK BOTTOM for these people, so hold on to your butts because it's only going to get worse from here
Saying that body dysmorphia is just fatphobia also negates all of the other versions of the disorder such as feeling like you are in the wrong body etc.
apparently i have now became a misogynist fatphobe because i am an anorexic trans man lmao
Like people who want to be more muscular, for instance
@@Em_Elizabeth or having a visible disability, or wanting to be more tanned / pale, there are so many variations of body dysmorphia not just weight. I don’t like the way my body looks because of a physical disability.
"I have body dysmporhia" and then they think showing a picture of the person and going "this is what you look like" is gonna mean anything. The logic is astounding.
These people count on the extreme lack of critical thinking we see in today’s society. They think that by being loud and bullying it somehow lends credibility to their arguments. Notice how they never open up the conversation to the opposing view of their crusade? The second someone makes a cogent counterpoint that is actually backed up by facts and data, they scream “fat phobia,’ or “racism, classism, ableism, etc”. They have no interest in having a legitimate debate because they know they’d get crushed by someone who has actual critical thinking abilities. Instead of putting in the work to get fit and lean, they spew out this idiocy because it gives them a perceived sense of power.
I’m 38 years old and have struggled with Anorexia for many years (started when I was 13) however I also spent 3 years (in my early 20’s) being obese after giving birth to my first child. (When I say obese I mean at my highest I was over 300lbs and a size 28) I then got sucked back into Anorexia and I can officially say I have been on both sides. (My lowest I was wearing size 0) To say Anorexia is “fat phobic” is an uneducated and ignorant statement to say. For me it’s a clear lack of control in my life I fear most and I use this method to what I believe is “regaining control.” What I put in my mouth is that last power I feel I have left. For so long I have felt my life was out of control due to an abusive family dynamic and other events. Messages like these coming from this community have the potential to be very harmful and judgmental. I personally think they are projecting their own self hatred but that’s just my opinion…..
EXACTLY. I struggled with anorexia for years and it was never about my weight. It was an obsessive need for some control in my life that turned to food. I can't with these people just blatantly spouting misinformation about an illness they don't/won't even try to understand
Honestly, I don't get what they gain from it. Like why shitting on other people who are not even in your "bubble"? What is the point?
omg i've been on both sides too! it really is a trip. you get to see so many different perspectives. your own perspective at different weights, how other people treat you with a specific body... shit is crazy. i've been called names at my highest and lowest weight. i got called a pig for gaining weight, and called a fraud for losing it. people are wild and it amazes me how many of them take out their own problems on other people, especially people struggling. i hope you find peace, love. recovery is insanely hard but it's the best choice i've ever made.
It's also like telling a depressed person that if they looked at their life objectively, they'd realize that they have nothing to be depressed about. As if that's gonna make the depression just magically vanish. Which, as someone who has struggled with it in the past, trust me when I say it DOESN'T.
"im a fat person, and i get treated as one" literally do not understand what that means. i'm thin because of medical conditions but my ENTIRE family is overweight. they don't get treated any differently. they've never been bullied for being big. none of them. ever. THEY hate that they are overweight. no one else cares.
Your family isn't the whole world though
Yeahh just cause your family isn’t treated any differently def doesn’t mean others aren’t. A LOT of people are treated differently just cause they are fat.
That "body dysmorphia is fatphobic" reminds me of that time a friend of mine said "you shouldn't be depressed , your parents love you , people have it worse than you"
I love how the activists say “the anorexia diagnoses criteria is fatphobic” when people say that fat people don’t have anorexia yet they use it to call people fatphobic when it helps prove their point. So the anorexia criteria is wrong when it says you have to be underweight to be diagnosed, but it’s correct and proves that all people with a mental illness is fatphobic? Makes no sense
Tess holiday claimed to be anorexic as well, which makes her a hypocrite since she hates, “fatphobia”
@@gothica3605 We all know she was never anorexic either, binging for sure though.
@@arikray7030 you can't just "know" if someone was ever anorexic or not. It's a MENTAL illness, you can't know about her life. Your view of anorexia nervosa is flawed and wrong.
@@leafycynicalif you have anorexia nervosa you have to be underweight. Atypical anorexia is all the same criteria except you are usually at a healthy weight or overweight. So if anything she would have atypical anorexia.
@@_kikizaman_ atypical anorexia is just pushing people to get worse and feel like they shouldn't recover, anorexia is anorexia in both cases
Why are they making someone's illness about themselves? 🤨 I smell the narcissism in them
so much of this is honestly just "how dare you complain about your issues, because MINE are worse". But they can't say it that clearly, because admitting they think being fat is a problem for them would be *gasp* fatphobic! (by their definition)
"look at yourself objectively"
well, therein lies the problem, people with BD have great difficulty doing that. Also it's not just about looking fat. Many body builders think they are way smaller than they actually are
Regarding anoriexa, I think about this video of an older woman who developed it as a kid. Her family was extremely poor. She didn't want to be a burden on her mom so she ate very little.
This caused her body to reject food, which made it even more challenging for her to recover.
To me, its absurd to say anoriexia is inherently about "not wanting to be fat". In the case of this woman, she was afraid of consuming too much and stressing her mom out. Its very naive to assume its all about appearance.
This! Also for many people developing anorexia is often rooted in the need for help because they can't or dont know how to express it verbally
This!! Most people don't seem to realize but EDs tend to stem from trauma or just a general lack of control in one's life not vainity when you actually start trying to understand the true cause of someone's ED you'd be surprised at how little it actually had to do with food and weight
as a psychology major, i agree! EDs for most people, including myself, are in relation to control. it rarely has to do with other people and for “body positive” advocates to believe it is, is so egocentric. like news flash, not everything is about you.
@@wynsday they'll do anything to avoid looking inwards. always pointing the finger at everyone else, never taking any personal accountability. food addiction is a lot like drug addiction in many ways.
My restrictive ED symptoms flare up when I'm stressed and have little control in my life. If bills pile up, I don't want to eat. If my car breaks down, I don't want to eat.
How entitled and privileged it is to have access to unlimited food to stuff down your throat, when around one out of five children in America struggle with food security.
The level of ignorance and entitlement of the first person 💀
The acne comparison is SO GOOD, hats off to you. Some people have really severe acne and have learned to love themselves and accept it, but I don’t see anyone being called “acne-phobic” for using face wash.
Maybe that will be the next big thing
You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain or however the saying goes. These women are insane.
I used to weigh 280 lbs and now I'm abt 219 lbs .When I was heaviest, I always told myself and everyone that : "I love my body, no matter if I'm fat, I'm beautiful, confident and happy, I don't need to change anything." I used that as an excuse for my laziness like them, I know it all.
I’m sure that you feel better about losing that weight. Keep it up 😎
@@jennahilton8259 tysm ♡
My body dysmorphia ruined me. I’m barely recovering. I fear gaining one pound. I don’t care if I’m labeled as “fat phobic😿” I literally cannot control the fact that I’m scared of gaining weight. I cannot believe they’ll bash me and my other people going through the same thing I’m going through for something that’s a literal disorder
It's horrible-- this comment was made a while ago, but I hope you're doing better with your body dysmorphia now.
I hope you’re doing better now
I mean... we are. Nothing wrong with that.
After getting sucked into these videos and binge watching all of them, I’ve come to the conclusion that this whole “movement” is just full of woman who have DEEP rooted hatred a towards themselves and make it other peoples fault. It’s sad
Them - “we’re fighting oppression!”
Also them - *actively perpetuating negative stigma against a protected class of people*
Make it make sense
Holy shit that first person is awful. I can't believe someone like that to be actually so self absorbed and cold. Absolutely disgusting.
Hello, fellow ED community watching this to trigger themselves lol.
I actually am body positive (for everyone but myself) - but not in the fat acceptance way. I believe being fat is unhealthy, but you are not less of a person if you are & you should not hate yourself either way.
By the tone of all of your videos, I really hope I have picked up on the right vibe- that you don't hate people bc they're fat, you're just dismantling the bizarre, untrue shit they sometimes say.
Yes, if body positivity actually was for being positive about people’s bodies, regardless of the size, shape, or marks on that body, then this wouldn’t even be an argument. By the definition that you gave Annie, most of us are Body Positive. It’s the definition that fat activists are using that isn’t so great.
ah yes, let me look at myself objectively when my facial dysmorphia literally made half my face look like it was melting because I obsessed with symmetry
6:57 “I’m so sick of schizophrenia! Look at your surroundings objectively! Those things aren’t there!”
Why do fat acceptance ppl call us "thins?" We are people as well.
It’s a mix of severe jealousy and a coping mechanism of bullying.
They’d throw a hissy fit if we called them ‘fats’
“You don’t GET to feel insecure and unsure about your weight! Only I CAN”
As someone that has had anorexia for over 30 years this infuriates me. I can't help how I feel, it's a mental illness, and not a choice. If I could be rid of it, I would. In a heartbeat!
Overweight folks seem to be very defensive even when there is no need to be. Could this be due to self consciousness and jealousy?
UR VOICE IS BEAUTIFUL
wise, wise words
"You are fat phobic if you have restrictive ED, because you have a fear of gaining weight and becoming fat." I don't hate you for being fat, I hate myself for being fat. My ED ain't about you luv 😘
I'm a trans woman, and I used to be 325lbs, my weight definitely made my gender dysphoria so much worse. I've been hammered by FA's for "not loving my body as the way it was" after losing my burden and getting down to 160 (I'm 6'1") and medically transitioning. All of their rhetoric just reeks of transphobia, incidental at best, and deliberate at worst [quite a few fat activists also defend loud TERFs like Rowling].
I'm surprised, most fat activists are liberals(unfortunately). Sorry that you had to go through that
okay my English may not be good enough, but are they saying that I have to work on my anorexia to not hurt their feelings???? Why do they need to feel oppressed so much? Omg it’s ridiculous
the first one is "im fat and insecure and i hate when people skinnier than me have body image issues bc im ACTUALLY fat and they dont deserve to call themselves fat bc theyre what i want to be"
These are the same type of people to scream at you "Your not depressed, you have so much to be happy about" which helps no one in fact it could make someone feel more guilty
Some people will do anything to seem oppressed 😟
Just because you are fat doesn’t make everyone else’s body image irrelevant
they claim being “body positive” for mental health whilst their physical body rots. they don’t care about themselves, they don’t love themselves. they are just too mean spirited, stubborn and delusional to get better.
I love how you say restrictive ED because most of these people don't want to admit that they have BED. which is an ED. Ed's come in many forms. Love that you acknowledged that.
They do not care that anorexic people have an ED. They care that someone having a life threatening illness offends them. Like holy shit stop forcing yourself into someone else’s narrative.
This caught me off guard I was expecting the robot voice and you just drop your voice and face in the same video
The way these people are ready to have knife fights over who gets to call themselves fat gives off very strong "People's Front of Judea" vibes
4:50 firstly, this person just proved why half knowledge is dangerous. A diagnosis for mental disorder in DSM 5 is only theoretically descriptive. There are rarely any such case where a patient’s complaints fit the entire diagnostic criteria from a DSM ( this is coming from a psychologist herself i.e., me) yet psychologists ( mind you, a professional with 5+ years of learning in that field) still make a diagnosis so NO, you don’t have to fit each of the pointers on a DSM. I’ve come across so many fat activists who are willing to disregard and even change the medical narrative to fit their own understanding only because they’ve access to research papers from WebMD or PUBMD and easily available books. They act like anyone can make a psychological diagnosis just because they’ve free access to the DSM. Can they do this for heart disease or cancer? They’ll think twice and even research more. But they’re so quick to invalidate mental disorders to fit their selfish agendas because they’re so insecure about how they look. A majority of fat activists lack empathy, are extremely hateful and vile and disrespectful to anyone who don’t agree with their opinions. Please leave mental disorders alone, scums.
Though women might talk about pressure to stay young, you don't see older women condemning women for using eye cream.
Here is an idea: Don’t bash people for having mental disorders that focus on weight and appearance because YOU are offended that someone is upset about being in a bigger body, even if you don’t think they are :D
Ah, yes, the time I tried to starve myself to death was all about obese people generally who I don't know personally.
i had a friend who said that i was fatphobic for literally having anorexia. she told me i couldn't celebrate small things like successfully gaining a little bit of weight during recovery. i never ever degraded anybody for their weight despite my own fears and struggles at the time. the fourth video is something else.
The first video infuriates me! She makes it sound like having dysmorphia is a choice ! a person can instantly look at a picture like " oh yeah I remember now I’m not fat" really!
The fact that they think a person telling them to slow down on the sweets os the same as fat shaming, then comparing the 'shaming' to legitimate disorders is beyond disgusting
That first one enrages me. They have absolutely no right to tell someone with body dysmorphia that their anxieties about the way they look aren’t valid. As someone who struggles with body dysmorphia, it is completely an illogical perception of the way I view myself. I see myself as fat and unhealthy in my own way because the voice in my brain tells me that, even if I am not actually medically overweight. It has nothing to do with comparing myself to other people. To not only invalidate someone’s unfounded and frankly irrational anxieties about themselves but to also shame them for being insensitive is frankly disgusting. It has nothing to do with you. Stop trying to make other people’s mental disorders about you.
Damn that first person! Yelling at someone with a disorder they can't control.
I like your regular voice a lot more than the robot one.
.This makes me so mad cause I used to be classified as obese. I lost enough weight to be in the "healthy range" and it wasn't cause I was "scared of being fat". I wasnt able to get out of bed. I couldnt walk around my hs campus without wheezing. I was ripping one pair of pants a month, so it was a big expense to my guardians. At this point, if someone calls me fat phobic, I'm going to tell them "yes, I am because I was prediabetic and getting close to having sleep apnea at 16 years old". I'm 20 now, and have an exponentially better working body. I like it now, and I would never go back or talk good about my body then.
I’m glad that you got yourself together! Good on you!
I am losing weight now, have sleep apnea (sadly) and used to be prediabetic. I also lost my day to a heart attack at 51 years old. The current “fatphobia” argument can be torn to shreds in more ways than one.
I Honestly would like to know exactly where these are these "women" and" got there psychiatric and psychology degrees from an especialized training that they've had in body dysmorphia disorder to the point where they can discuss it authoritatively As if their opinion is the be all an end all. It infuriates me that they make everything about themselves
As a person with an ed, I do not hate fat people. Like I do not walk on a street and judge every random fat person from being fat. I hate my body because it is my body. The thing that makes fat disgusting is that it is _my_ body, and everything about _my_ body is disgusting. Just my experience though.
Ik there's no logic, but it is a mental disorder, an illness. There's not supposed to be logic. I'm also extremely scared of salt, can't even tell why.
As a person who has suffered (and is still recovering from a restrictive) ED, I am NOT and have NEVER been fat phobic. In fact, I prefer larger women and men.
I cannot control my body dysmorphia, it isn't something that "Just goes away when you start liking fat people", It takes time and self-acceptance.
Phobia =Fear.
A eating disorder (any and all forms) are a mental disorder, and NOT caused by society or beauty standards.
It’s caused by poor coping mechanisms and food is something a person CAN control. That is the same for bingeing.
When we eat dopamine and seratonin get released. Let’s say scent of chocolate cake releases 10 points of both. The first bite released 50 more points of both.. as we keep eating the release slows down to reset. So over 5-10 minutes of eating a total of 150 points are released. Over the next 2 hours zero points are released (even if you eat again) so the brain can self regulate.
Now next time you eat, you have steamed vegetables. That will release 10 points of dopamine only.
Why?
Because sugar, fat, salt are the biggest dopamine hits. That is why almost ALL processed foods have 1,2 or all 3 included.
The number on nutrition label of sugar and carbs are both processing/digestion as glucose. So add both numbers together and that is how many tablespoons of sugar is in each SERVING. Find how many servings is in a pkg and then multiply that serving to pkg.
a cupcake is about 65 tablespoons of sugar. Throughout the whole day you could consume hundreds of sugar servings. Sugar will cause illness, weight gain, fat gain, visceral fat, depression, anxiety, malaise, general poor outlook on life.
Just lowering sugar can make a huge difference in weight, energy, mood, outlook etc.
carbs + sugar is the actual amount of sugar (minus fiber)
Stop being bullies body pos people and learn about food, nutrition, sugar, dopamine etc.
your addiction/disorder is not other people fault. You make the choice, you eat the food. You may think your choice is “healthy” but you don’t understand food, so it’s ineffective.
To really be successful you have to adopt a eating choice, lifestyle that you can do EVERYDAY, for life.
It takes a year to lose 100lbs, so be patient stay consistent and educate yourself about food, serving size, nutrition
FDA.gov has every food on earth in there with nutritional values.
Carbs low, fiber high, sugar low, protein high.
Shoot for 50 carbs a day, 15-25g Fiber a day,
15 sugars, 120 protein.
If someone did that daily they will have optimum health, physically, mentally, body weight, size, etc. it’s will all balance out.
Your vids are so well made and this needs to be said because there is so much misinformation in the fat positivity community. If misinformation is not called out then we will keep learning lies with no truth. Just do research if you find something that you think is false.
why are they always so upset when people say they dont want to look like them? they constantly say how they dont want to lose weight and that they would never wanna be thin but God forbid someone say the same thing about them 🙄 so much for confident in your body
“Look at yourself objectively” dude. people with body dysmorphia literally *cannot* do that
These people are sad, and the way they like to compare themselves to real marginalized groups is infuriating.
I have body dysmorphia and it’s completely warped my sense of self. I’m not fatphobic because of it, if anything I’m jealous that fat people can look better than me and feel confident. Even losing weight I still see myself as I was when I was at a higher weight.
it is so annoying that they take other people’s desires, fears and wishes as a personal attack on their body.
“If you have body dysmorphia, just look at yourself objectively!”
Ah yea if you’re poor, buy a house. If you’re depressed, just be happy. If you’re dying, just live.
Thank you for these. I’m a grad student in psychology which makes this type of stuff difficult to ignore so I avoid social media because it’s beyond frustrating. I appreciate how accurate & detailed your counter arguments are.
Wait.. I thougt they claim fatphobia to be systemical oppression like homophobia? "Fear of gaining weight" isnt oppression, it's a personal issue that has nothing to do with anybody else. And yes, EDs aren't rooted in "fatphobia", I never even counted calories, dieted, or feared becoming fat while starving almost to death. It was just another way of selfharm to me.
When they say "eating disorder"
They mean restrictive eating disorder
Over-eating and binges can be eds too
as someone with body dysphoria and weighing only 107 pounds and being a twig, I find it hard to believe that body dysphoria is something only someone on the heavier side can get.
I remember learning in psychology class that the #1 reason people developed restrictive eds was for "revenge", especially towards family, not bc they were not not ok with their overweight/fat bodies but bc of just passing comments people close to them made.
Also as someone with disorder eating the fear of fat is not against people but ourselves. In all the communities I've been part of being fatphobic towards other is a no like wtf are they talking. People are only afraid to get fat themselves not afraid of fat people. I'm done
Ooo I’ve never heard of the “revenge” origin for restrictive EDs. Thanks for sharing.
Also I recognize the picrew that you used for your pfp and it’s cute.
@@jennahilton8259 is not so much as revenge knowingly I'm just don't know how to explain it but basically a "look I lost weight happy?" towards family. I thought it was very interesting tbh as that is also how I went that rabbit hole
Ty. I really the art and picrew is addicting 😆
@@Anisa-ig6xw Yep I understand what you mean
@@jennahilton8259 omg ty I was just upset when I wrote the first comment I thought people might misunderstand
@@Anisa-ig6xw 😂 Nope nope you’re good!
As someone who has body dysmorphia, I’d just love to see them live a full day with the negative thoughts it gives you. They’d be singing a different tune if they did. It’s pure ignorance man, good grief..
Your voice is also super cute!! I’m really glad you let us hear it!! :D
I do not have BDD, but I have had the same thought because I would like to think that they would think differently if the shoe was on the other foot. I can only speculate what it’s like to have it.
@@jennahilton8259 It completely distorts your view of your body, without you even realizing it. Whether it be photos, or mirrors, it’s completely different to what other people see you as. It’s not so easy as, “unlearning fatphobia” and your suddenly cured like they enjoy pushing. And your brain is always your biggest bully, constantly feeding insults and dark thoughts about how you look. It’s maddening to see them say the things they do, about a disorder they’ve probably never had. I definitely wouldn’t wish it on them, but goodness, they would be so much more humble and understanding if they did.
@@burntmuffins6397 Yup. I can look in the mirror after a meal and think that my thighs look bigger than they did in the morning. I know realistically that that doesn’t happen, but my brain does it anyways. I hate that they say we can just “look objectively” as if looking objectively would fix depression or anxiety
@@trishalee7535 Exactly. It’s really sad honestly. They’d probably never say the same things to someone with depression, because some of them have it. Which just makes this even worse. They just have to stop believing everyone believes what they do. I hope your dysmorphia gets easier soon. I’m sending you lots of support. :D
@@burntmuffins6397 Sending you support too! We’ll get through this. Remember that no matter what you think your body looks like, you are beautiful and strong and wonderful ❤️
I rlly like that you explained these because I feel like I’m learning a lot. Thank you
"look at yourself objectively! you're not fat!" bro i have anorexia and I've lost 40lbs and i still think i look the exact same. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW I OBJECTIVELY LOOK.