Fat acceptance TikTok cringe compilation | "Body Dysmorphia is fatphobic" edition
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why do these people think telling people with a guilt-based issue (ED) that they're a terrible person and invalidating their own feelings about their dysmorphia is a good idea
Because they're fat so they automatically have it much worse those with those disorders... 🥺
I never had an ED but I did have body dysmorphia as a teen. So hearing that would have made high school me feel so much more isolated and guilty than I already did. Fuck these “body positive” assholes 🖕
yeah and mfs that say that have bed like??? why are you hating when y'all have the same shit 😭
@@puppiesarepower3682 in this case it’s eating disorder tho
@@puppiesarepower3682 it also stands for Eating Disorder. Most words/acronyms have more than one use or meaning 🤦
I guess I'm fatphobic because I don't want to be fat and felt like hammered crap at my highest weight. I felt the same way when I was too thin.
Exactly I felt like shit and depressed when I was heavier. No one feels the same about their body or weight. If someone is fine and confident being heavier or thinner, that's their life and business. It doesn't mean you are fatphobic.
Right I guess I’m fatphobic also because I don’t want to be 220lbs ever again, cool.
I am proud fatphobic.
I believe if you are scared to be fat it shouldn't be called fat phobic...idk I think this is a valid statement because with more fat there can be more medical problems...(I myself have week joints because of my extra weight...) And that can be scary for some ppl and that is totally okay...
Is that Taye Diggs in your profile pic??
Some people look good with extra weight on them. Others don't. Just because skinny Sally thinks she looks fat doesn't mean she thinks actually fat Susie is ugly.
Also people have different preferences, many people find chubby/bigger women more attractive. Beauty depends on many things from your country to your time period so its the best to not try to fit into today's standarts which changes constantly.
Is there a difference between being phat and fat?
Ohh this!!
Or maybe skinny Sally straight up does think actually fat Susie is ugly.. and it's okay to think that and not be attracted to someone's physical appearance for any reason, including weight. Same way it's okay to not think someone super skinny is attractive. Who gives a fuck, not everyone will find you attractive, much less if you don't fit the generic standards (symmetrical face, body proportions, etc), that's life lol
Exactly omg
If that woman truly is a psychologist, I’m genuinely concerned for people under her care.
If I had to guess she just got a bachelors psychology degree and Is calling herself a psychologist
Me too, her snarky tone?? Imagine having an actual disorder, coming across this video and giving up on searching for help because the psychologist said you're fatphobic in a very rude way, making you feel even more guilty? That's so irresponsible of her
I guarantee she just studied it lol
Her name is Paula Freedman. She is a psychologist, but she should be barred from medical practice.
@@LittleDeamon0358 her tiktoks should be compiled and presented as evidence of malpractice. She should absolutely lose her license.
The first world problems
yeah imagine having access to so much food that you can engage in gluttony to the point of morbid obesity, then complaining about privilege
If they were obese because poverty had limited their affordable diet to junk food as in a food desert, they might have a point.
BUT that’s absolutely not what the people in these tiktoks are going through
Well, body dismorfia is arguably also a "first world problem". You think starving people in 3rd world countries worry about becoming fat?
@@ismt9390 body dysmorphia isn't only about size. Many people suffering from it see their face in a completely different way on some days than compared to a prior day. Some people think their hands suddenly look really weird.
There's definitely body dysmorphia in other countries. Even in "poor" countries.
@@Orangecatenergy Yeah, but it's probably pretty low on their priority list.
I AM FAT FATPHOBIC, I DO NOT WANT TO BE FAT!!!! IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT TOO BAD!!!!!!
I'm fat phobic! I'm fat and i want to lose weight!
Same. Being fat simply has a lot of disadvantages from health issues to finding clothing etc. Im literally underweight and struggle so much because of it and im trying to get to a healthy weight, if i was overweight i'd try to lose weight.
exactly who tf wants to be fat especially if they act like the ppl in those tiktoks
THANK YOU!!!!! TOTALLY AGREE!!!! I don't want to be fat! Don't want to get fat! Ever! If these people /actually/ liked themselves they wouldn't need constant validation.
Proud fat phobic here
God these people are so infuriating. Especially the ‘psychologist’. She’s sooo condescending and so stigmatising
the one who said putting fat children on a diet is child a*use?🙃
@ShaisPas exactly! and it is always because you want your child to thrive and be happy, because you will get tired quite fast when you do any physical activity or even get low self esteem in sports, because you can‘t throw a ball far enough.
I only talk from experience lol. i was an overweight child myself, luckily not too much.
also, why don‘t fat activists talk about the people on my ,600 p life‘? genuine question, but i feel like they are talking way to much about EDs that focus on loosing weight and don‘t talk about those like BED for example.
Seriously this!! Shes so annoying and infuriating! If she speaks like that all the time then it wouldn't surprise me if she had no friends
Ikr and y tf does she always look constipated and angry when she’s making her “points” her face will soon stay that way and I going to laugh forever 😆
@@jessterdayoncemore7049 and no D**k!!
not wanting to get fat its 100% reasonable. The actual problem with body dysmorphia is that it turns "not wanting to get fat" into an obsessive disorder. Like some ppl's ocd makes them wash their hands 100 times a day, by fat acceptance logic that means u should never wash ur hands ever lol
cause you know , you‘re size where you feel
comfortable is not approved by fat activists, if you have to loose weight to obtain that gosl weight then it‘s wrong 🙃 (sarcasm, ofc you can loose some weight to be where you are comfortable with yourself, it‘s about the extremes on both sides where it ends)
Because that makes you dirtyphobic!
why do they throw around the word fatphobic as if it actually means anything. i used to be fat, it was the worst and i would never want to be fat again. being afraid of becoming fat is not fatphobic it’s completely natural to not want to be fat. being fat sucks
These people want to drag others down into a miserable life, or keep them there
As someone desperately trying to lose weight, amen. I let myself go and I'm almost at my highest weight again, and I feel awful. I never want to be this heavy again, and there's nothing wrong with how I feel
Me too. I have so much more strength, energy, speed and stamina than I did when I was fat. My dating prospects improved a lot. I can eat a burger occasionally without feeling guilty about it. It was hard work but it was absolutely worth it.
@@HannahCharlesworth98 hun slowly lose weight slowly and consistentlyy..all the best
@@HannahCharlesworth98 Wish you the best in your journey ❤️
This sort of content and thought process ("eating disorders are fatphobic, if you have an eating disorder please get over your fatphobia") actually validated a friend into spiraling further into an eating disorder not because they wanted to be skinny but because they wanted to be dead. I hope one day these people get a shred of awareness for anyone who isn't themselves.
Omg I hope your friend is ok now. Good job “body positive” tiktok. You sure helped someone overcome their body issues
I felt like this too. How on earth is my mental illness anything to do with you.
People who know nothing about ED's (which wouldn't be a problem if they weren't bullies about them) often think that the only problem that we have is a body image related one. They know nothing about coping mechanisms, trauma and emotional damage. It's way way way deeper than wanting to look a certain way, and this kind of content only pushes us further away from talking about the real issues behind any type of ED. Also contributes to that vintage perception of "only anorexics and bulimics suffer an ED and it's because they are very vain". This people's lack of empathy sucks. I hope your friend is doing better now🥺💕
@@lesbiangoddess290 I hope you are doing well ❤
I hope they are doing better now.
"i'm not making fun of mental illness and calling body dysmorphia fatphobic, i'm just saying that when people express thoughts about their mental illness that is fatphobic"
genuinely i think these people don't understand that body dysmorphia isn't just a size thing, it twists our body and especially facial features to the point where we cannot recognise ourselves in the mirror.
also saying "no one brings up body dysmorphia unless it's to justify fatphobia" is so utterly bullshit, there are so many people talking about body dysmorphia, especially online, and advocating for doctors to learn about it. these fat activists would know that if they left their internet bubble and didn't only consume content about being fat
My boyfriend witnessed me lose my fucking shit Bc I looked in the mirror and didn’t see one of my usual faces (I normally cycle between one of two faces but this time it was a completely unfamiliar one)
BDD is a nightmare to live w and that one person who compared people mentioning BDD to “not all men” type people was really irritating simply Bc our BDD has nothing to do w them
god, yeah. body dysmorphia is god awful and mine has gotten less extreme since i had surgery ((i have scoliosis and had a spinal fusion / rod installation done almost two years ago now)) but it still hurts because the surgery didn’t correct absolutely everything.
because of my spine, i not only fixated on my lean to the side, but also my ribcage.
i’m extremely thin. i’m chronically underweight, and have been since i was literally maybe 5-6 years old. yes, i’ve dealt with an ED in the past, but i also have very very mild hyperthyroidism ((which i have to keep an eye on)) and i take multiple medications that suppress my appetite as a side effect.
in addition to the 3 curves in my spine , my spinal column was also twisted / rotated around somewhat. it caused my ribs to be extremely uneven and grow somewhat malformed, and some of them are still much further apart or closer together than they should be even post-fusion, and my hips are slightly uneven as well. one of them juts out a little further than the other, especially when i lay down.
my mind was horrible about it. the fact that i’m as thin as i am absolutely didn’t help, but i genuinely can’t describe how much time i spent just staring in the mirror. staring at my rib hump. hating it. mentally exaggerating how prominent it was. locking myself in my room at night god knows how many times and literally just breaking down because i thought everybody could see it and everybody would definitely think about it and make fun of me or avoid me or Anything At All.
despise how much it hurt sometimes and how much it restricted my eating and breathing, i adored my back brace when i got it. it “fixed” my body. i could wear it and it was flat. it made my ribs flat. it made my ribs normal and that was good. who cares about the fact that the foam inserts it was made with hurt something Awful and pressed into all the wrong parts of my body as my curves got worse? who cares that i couldn’t eat more than literally a handful of food at a time in it? that i couldn’t BREATHE in my brace sometimes? i was normal. my body was good now. none of that mattered.
i still push on my right ribs out of habit. they do still stick out a bit. i used to sit there and literally just sob over myself while pushing and prodding at my ribcage, like me pressing my fingers down into my lower ribs would somehow force them back into the correct spot on my body.
i still do it now, but mostly as a subconscious thing when i get nervous or when my ribcage / those muscles there ache, because sometimes it genuinely does help with physical pain.
body dysmorphia is not “fatphobic.” it’s a mental illness. i’m sorry for how selfish this may sound, but the amount of “hurt” you think you’re being dealt “as a real fat person” by the fact that this person experiences these feelings and these thoughts? it doesn’t hold a candle to the kind of torment that disorder puts them, their mind, and especially their own body through.
Very well stated. You said it better than I did. It's not exclusively about fatness or thinness, AT ALL
I honestly had no idea that BDD could get that extreme. Holy shit, my dude. Thank you for sharing.
@@karaleigh_eva Thank you for sharing this. I had no idea that the condition could get so severe.
I can’t imagine being this disconnected from reality holy crap.
Oh Lord. Ok so i'm plus-size, and have body dysmorphia. Sometimes i look in the mirror and look way fatter than i am. And sometimes i actually look thinner. That is how my personal body dysmorphia works. I have learned long ago that I can't rely on my view of myself (almost like a built-in funhouse mirror) and so I really only look in mirrors when doing makeup. And love myself regardless of what i see, because what i see isn't reliable.
body dysmorphia isn’t even always weight related either. i have it to do with symmetry on my body to where i cant look in the mirror for that long. my weight? idc about
I'm literally the same. At my biggest I think I look smaller so I think I'm thinner and healthier then I am amd I'm shocked if I've to wear larger clothes. Then when I lost weight before, I was convinced I looked the same as when I started. Looking back on the those pictures are heartbreaking now.
Use a scale then. Numbers don't lie
@@zeldaadlez3377 yeah... scales aren't actually accurate. They're fine for a rough estimate but female bodies often retain water, fluctuate with hormones and periods. On top of that, when I exercise, I fluctuate like crazy especially if I do muscle workouts/strength training. So they're OK and a rough guide but definitely not accurate and many scales can vary very differently from each other from +/- 1-5lbs sometimes. My friends scales adds 7lbs to what mine does. And as someone with body dysmorphia, it's not helpful to step on the scales to make sure I didn't gain weight...and the numbers say I'm up xyzlbs because some of the reasons above. For scales to be accurate, you'd have to weigh yourself every day and monitor your body's habits with water retention etc
Self hatred, self esteem, body positivity or body dysmorphophobia are NOT a thing that have a size limit! A thin person can hate their body and NOT care about how fat other people are, and a fat person can love their body without being disgusted or hating slimmer body's. They are not mutually exclusive!
Yes my body dysmorphia makes me inherently fat phobic. And yes my allergies make me inherently anti-histamine
I kinda agree that perceiving yourself as fat is different from being fat, and I can see how someone would be triggered by content about body insecurities. But getting angry at people with BD is really horrible and sad. Anorexia is one of the most dangerous disorders, not just because of the malnutrition, but because people who have it often commit suicide. So GUILT tripping these people for a disorder they can't control is horrifyingly dangerous.
People should just block tags related to things that are triggering for them. Block users too. I know it sounds kinda mean to block people for talking about their disorder, but it's waaay better than lashing out at them.
Exactly. How can people who claim to be against body image expectations in society shame people who are clearly struggling. Kicking someone while they’re down is what it is
Side note: I was like wow, people still have pfp of homestuck in 2021? Then saw your username, I love it 😂
@@kitsterangel I'm pretty sure this pfp is old lol the artist is Ikimaru I think
@@idkwhathomestuckisijustlik3439 omg you just brought back weird memories, I used to follow them on tumblr before tumblr got bought and became dumb, thanks for that haha
@@kitsterangel oh Tumblr got SO dumb XD
is being fat Skinnyphobia? Serious question.
No because that isn’t a thing
Hahahaha yes
For them I guess.
@@MelB868 'fatphobia' wasn't a thing 20 years ago. Why 'skinnyphobia' can't be a thing?
They remind me of incels, depressed, angry at the world, over-analytical, entitled... I feel so sorry for them. This whole environment is not positive at all, it just validates their negative feelings. The longer they stay in those online echo chambers the more depressed they’ll feel.
It’s a great comparison because both groups don’t want to put in any effort to change themselves while demanding that the rest of the world change for them
@@futuristicgirl14Both groups also want you to date them, no matter _what_ your preferences.
they make it sound like it's impossible to lose weight, it's not. it's something you can change unlike your race or other factors... and aren't a decent amount of the American population overweight and obese??? like how can the majority of people be oppressed? where's the logic?
You are so right! I have three diseases (not going to say) and two of them literally cause my body to hold on to weight, yet I manage to stay at a healthy weight
Exactly! If you can stop being oppressed by just running on a treadmill a couple times a week your not actually oppressed. Almost half of our country is obese
Well the number of people of a group doesn't necessarily have to do with societal power. But still, fat people are definitely NOT opressed lmao. Many politicians are fat. There's carts in American stores for their huge sized customers. The whole country is enabling obesity with its products. You are not opressed.
I'm... So confused. I'm a "skinny" person with body dysmorphia and this person clearly doesn't understand anything. We don't get to pick what our brain sees us as, and trust me, my brain doesn't see myself anywhere close to you. That's the really sad truth this person doesn't understand. I fully support them being whatever size they want but most people with body dysmorphia would never let themselves get to her size or anywhere close.
Just how you can't control the way your mental illness makes you feel, some people can't control how they feel about the way you think. Feelings are unreasonable sometimes and if someone told me while i was still fat that becoming fat is their biggest fear in life, that would honestly make me feel bad about myself and i would feel a bit insulted. Yes, maybe it's selfish, but it's the truth, i honestly understand some of their points. And also feeling fat and actually being fat and seeing how you're treated in society because of that *are* different.
WHY DO PEOPLE WANT TO GLAMORIZE AND ROMANTICIZE SO ADAMANTLY SOMETHING THAT WILL SHORTEN THEIR LIFESPAN?!
That's what I say about alcohol too
Because they don’t want to change. They don’t want to do the hard work
Because they’re delusional. All that McDonald’s is getting to their heads
They did it with underweight people, alcohol, drugs, and smoking, now its over weight people's time 🤷🏻♀️
“Having an extreme fear of gaining weight and being fat is fatphobic”
…… yeah? What’a your point here?
So at one point I was 330lbs broke a chair and was tierd of being sore and tierd after sleeping I went on youtube learned a little changed the diet and went to the gym lost 160lbs from a previous "fatty" you need to get in control of your life and not blame others
Proud of you!
when they compare being fat to race, sexuality etc. that's the most disrespectful thing ever, you cannot change those things unlike your weight. keep convincing yourself that in order to feel better about yourself and go develop health issues sooner than people with a healthy body weight 😙✌
also race and sexuality is not comparable. just to let u know
if you look at someone struggling with an eating disorder and you feel the need to make it about YOURSELF and call them fatphobic you need to be humbled and i dont usually condone bullying but i am willing to make an exception
Why do obese people think people with body dysmorphia are seeing THEM? When I look at myself I don’t see random obese chicks, I see my own body but it doesn’t look right, and I hate those parts of my body because if I could just make certain things different I would feel better about how I look (that’s what it feels like anyway lol). I don’t care about fat people out in the world whatsoever, it’s not about them, but they want it to be about them? And they get mad that it’s not so they get emotional and say the most ignorant crap I’ve ever heard.
Why does it even matter if a person with an (eating) disorder ist fatphobic?? They definitely have waaaay bigger problems than that but those people really need to make other's mental illnesses about themselves, love it 🙂
thank you so well put!! I don't understand, they're going after people with ED's to pressure into thinking being fat is beautiful? wtf?
The fact their 1st concern on a person with an ED is whether they're fatphobic or not really speaks volume. Like atleast help them??? Aren't they in need? Instead of shaming them, maybe make things better for them? I don't understand.
If my child grows up to be any of these people, in particular the person at 1:00, I will have failed my job as a parent.
2:13 damn i can't be depressed anymore because i'll be a happyphobic 😔☝️🙏💔
can they shut up it's an eating DISORDER for god sake
@@sayarasa8961 I’m fat phobic ig
these people are delusional.
Very
Imagine being a victim of fatphobia being your whole personality 😂
imagine being so priviledged that you have to create your own problems for oppression points
I am still in recovery for a restrictive eating disorder. I hate people like this talking on this topic. It's insensitive.
I can honestly say I understand exactly where you are at.
My ED ended pretty much with me being restrictive on my food..
I am an adult now and still in therapy.
And these videos are insensitive, especially the " psychologist " I would walk out of the office if my doctor/ counselor/ therapist ever talked down to me like that..
Much love hun, I understand the battle xo
@@sarcasticbutclassysagittar444 This is pretty triggering, but I tried to get help but my area has very limited resources and I had to do fucking EVERYTHING myself. It's left me with a deep knowledge of myself, my mental health, and my personal eating disorder, but it was hard and it would have been nice to have professional support. Binging during nursing class because I'd seen too many of these fat assholes talking about how eating everything you can see is healthy just lead to going to the bathroom to throw it up and then eating 600 calories a day for the next week. Intuitive eating, especially like these asshole preach it, was not for me and still isn't, because for me I suffered binging for a little while during each time I recovered. It was actual binging too, because instead of turning to starvation when I felt bad I would punish myself with food but in a different way, I'd eat terrible food that would upset my stomach until I hated myself.
For me, it turned out I needed a more balanced approach. I'm proud to say I'm doing much better these days, and I'm no longer deficient in every mineral known to man.
@@gabbyfringette7250 Well done for handling it yourself, I am in awe of people who manage to do that. Left to my own devices I could have died or ended up being rushed to hospital or both. With help I almost ended up in hospital.
@@FronteirWolf it was tricky and took a long time with a lot of relapses. I still have little mini day or so long relapses and disordered thoughts
What's wrong with being afraid of getting fat? I'm afraid of getting cancer. Obesity is a disease just like cancer is a disease. I'm super grateful I've never been fat and am not fat and I hope I'll never be fat.
You should be grateful, and be kind. Many people assume people become fat because they don’t care or because they want to be. Most dont, it’s an unfortunate set of circumstances that spiral into poorer and poorer health. It’s a difficult way to live and for some people can be impossible to reverse. I just want to stop seeing people with obesity dehumanized. My mom, the person I love most in this world has obesity. It was brought on by severe abuse, chronic pain, chronic illnesses and injuries being in and out of the hospital over the years, and depression. She is happier now, cut off contact with her abuser. She is active and eats lots of fruits and vegetables. But she’s still physically disabled and obese. I love her and she’s a strong, intelligent, funny, caring woman. Please remember that fat people are normal people with bad circumstances
@@KitKat_293 how am I being unkind? I never implied ppl wanted to be obese. I feel for people who are obese, but I think it's wrong to tell someone they shouldn't be glad they don't have a disease or want to avoid a disease.
@@beebthemilch I never said you were being unkind. Your comment was neutral. I reminded you to be kind. These people do need it.
@@KitKat_293 "You should be grateful, and be kind." It implies that I'm being ungrateful and unkind.
I’ve noticed in a lot of these tiktoks that the creators are always telling other people to “calm down”, “stop hating fat people”, that they receive a lot of anger/animosity from thin people… But, they are presenting this content in a hostile, emotional way themselves? Like, I’m calm, I’m good. I don’t hate you, I’m not sure why you’d think I do, it’s bizarre. I’m not sure why you’re telling ME to calm down, but I think you might need to take your own advice…
"eating disorders with the intention to control weight are rooted in fatphobia" ok... but has this person ever considered that a great deal of people with eating disorders have it as a reason to find control in their life and not necessarily bc they don't want to be fat? (examples like ppl with OCD or autism that have eating disorders)
Fucking thank you!!! I'm so sick of people assuming this shit.
Because I'm in the pro choice, leftist (some), feminist, and lgbt side of tik tok. They assume I'm part of the haes side as well... I wish I could get out of that because of all the things that are harmfull, telling people its okay to be 500+ lbs without any consequences takes the cake (pun intended)
Same here. I’m queer/nonbinary, autistic and pretty far left. Most TikTok creators I find who agree with me on everything else support HAES and most people who agree with me on HAES have terrible takes in every other area. To me HAES is just like the anti vaxxer movement.
* this is kinda a vent comment in a way, but I’m also trying to explain how wrong these tik toks are about BDD and restrictive eds *
I have body dysmorphia and anorexia. the amount of times I’ve been told that I’m fatphobic for having both these disorders is insane. I’m very much against fatphobia and body shaming. Videos like this are actually just offensive and show how little they understand my mindset and illnesses. :/
*edit* : by the way, body dysmorphia isn’t only seeing yourself as fat. I experience it as not being able to describe or even be aware of how I look. I wouldn’t be able to describe anything about how my body looks.
Also, as the creator of this channel said, not all restrictive eds are because of the need to be thin. Mine is about control, not thinness,
i totally agree, i have anorexia too and it’s so wrong to get mad at someone for their disorder and say it’s “fatphobic” like stfu
Fat phobia and fat shaming is the REASON for my ed. Them saying I'm fat phobic is like calling a murder victim a murderer.
Dysmorphia isn't just about seeing fatterss or thinness....it's a disorder by which you dislike any number of things you percieve, which can INCLUDE percieving your body as 'too fat' or 'too thin' but can also include percieving yourself as 'ugly' 'too wrinkly' 'balding', etc.
It's percieving your physicality (your body) in some way that you dislike but which doesn't objectively jive with your actual body.
“I need validation”
And that’s really what it comes down to. These people will raise hell about anything and blame it on fatphobia because they compulsively need validation from strangers
What I will NEVER understand is people who are on public platforms complaining about the comments they get, needing to “take a break from the hate” and are upset that 100% of their audience does not agree with them and yet they still stay on this platform and make public content.. the definition of insanity
I just can't believe the nonsense of these peolple
I'd [MUCH] rather be thin than fat. But people, especially other women, are more judgmental with more criticisms of my body now that I'm thin. I never had another girl be rude upon meeting me when I was FAT with bad skin and braces. Never. Lost weight, skin cleared up, braces off, and then people started sizing me up and starting quite serious rumors about my maintaining a low weight. ...All this in response to the remark that fat people face "daily harassment".
I have battled an ED since the time I was a teen.
Mine went hand in hand with my depression and anxiety ( made it worse).
My counselor at the time made me realize I was addicted to the feeling of control I got when I controlled how much weight I gained or lost, how much food I ate or did not eat.
I do not remember the topic of body dysmorphia coming up, unless we talked about how I saw myself.
But it was not so much about how I saw myself, it was more on okay I am this weight today, let's see if I can go lower..
I was wanting to not be alive at this point in my life, but I did not want to end it quickly..
I am an adult and have had three children myself, and have been in intensive therapy before and after my children were born.
I am at a healthy weight according to my age and body type. And I am finally at a point where I am okay with myself..
Now I know what it took for me to get to this point now, that road was hard and painful.
So watching those videos of bigger girls (mostly ) complain that we skinny girls/women are fat phobic, because our ED makes us think we are bigger and we don't want to be..
No that was not the reason for my ED..
And now even that I am at a good healthy weight, and I am petite I still get rumors made about me..and they have nothing to do with my ED,
I am 5'2 and 105 lbs, 46 years old, and people still ask me if I maintain my weight by doing drugs..
So all those big girls who say that they are the only ones being body shamed or discriminated against..umm stfu..
And that "psychologist " can also sit down and shut up, stop reading off google or you books and maybe go take some classes on empathy..do not sit there and diagnose people over the internet and throw out some psych terms out there to try and make yourself look smarter.. maybe walk into a ED ward at a hospital and talk to some patients who have for the second time ripped out their IV and/or feeding tube because at the lowest time in their lives they do not want a psych major to come tell them they are wrong..
OMG they make me want to scream! I am fat with an eating disorder and body dysmorphic, which my their logic would make their heads absolutely explode since it doesn't fit with their narrative lmao. BLESS you for making this video you deserve a vacation for dealing with something so infuriating
Thanks! It was a struggle 😂. I hope you're recovering well.
The worst part is that she is right in saying that the videos with the filter isn't helpful but rather a form of body checking. That makes it a symptom and cause for concerne, not a reason to believe they don't have the illness. That would be like me who has anxiety and partake in safety behaviours such as checking my puls etc and then feeling some relife from my anxiety being told I don't actually have anxiety since I felt better when i engaged in unhealthy safety behaviours. Her logic is so beyond flawed that I have a really hard time beliving she is an actual psychologist and not just someone with a low bar theraputic licence of sorts who spouts nonsens online
I was thinking that too. I have ocd and that seems like a classic checking behavior that puts a check in the 'you might have this disorder' column. It's not helpful and may even be harmful but it sure doesn't suggest they couldn't have the disorder.
I’m personally choosing to not be fat for MYSELF because I want to do what I want (exercise or wear clothes I like more comfortably). This doesn’t make me scared or hateful of fat people, it simply means I have a preference for my own body type, and take steps to achieve it.
That being stated, everyone has the right to exist in the body they’re happy with without discrimination or bullying/hate being directed at them (this includes skinny, fat, and everywhere in between).
Therefore, these said filters are meant to be used as entertainment, and as anyone chooses to. These gals need to stick to their own platforms and stop trying to insult everyone else who doesn’t subscribe to their values and beliefs. It’s as simple as that.
I used to be 200 pounds, I’m 120 now. It’s not hard, literally. When I was 200 pounds, I felt nasty, depressed, tired all the time, and I even developed some health issues. I feel so good with all the weight off. I’ve maintained my weight for 2 years now. Never would go back. And I know 200 may not sound like a lot but I’m 5’3 so my body carried my fat in the worst areas I felt like, just relieved I made a change. Oddly it was a New Years resolution, that I succeeded. I despised who I used to be, I don’t regret making a change in being a healthier me. Both mentally and physically.
SAME! I am also 5’3 and my highest was 200! I felt absolutely awful and was miserable. I got so sick of it I decided to change my life. I weigh 132 now and am hoping to lose more. But when I tell you how GOOD I feel now… it’s so worth it. Cause if I’m fatphobic then I’m proud of it. I never want to be 200 pounds again, it was very uncomfortable.
Im confused about this fat phobia thing. They say that if you dont want to be fat then you are fat phobic. So if its raining and somebody is using an umbrella would they run up to them and say "you need to work on your aquaphobia!!!" ? Just because you dont want to get wet doesnt mean you have an irrational fear of water.
I am unapologetically fat phobic I guess. I was 285 at my heaviest and have lost down to 190. I will continue to lose and do everything in my power to not be 285 again. If someone doesn't like that, I don't care. That would be a you problem.
That’s a huge loss, congrats!!
Well done. And well said.
Literally this is so stupid I recently lost a lot of weight due to an ED and was absolutely obese beforehand and my ED and body dysmorphia had nothing to do with my actual weight stress brought on my ED and it spiralled it’s a control issue not a weight issue for me and yes now my biggest fear is to look like them again but it’s not because I’m fat phobic it’s because to me that’s a complete loss of control and I can’t allow it to happen
I have anorexia as a symptom of OCD. I promise it's not because I want to be skinny I actually hate how I look when I'm underweight. I'm sick of people thinking ED'S are just because people want to be s k i n n y
Getting really tired of fat and disabled being put in the same category. I am epileptic and partially blind. I can’t do anything about that. Being obese, in most cases, can be helped. In fact, as a person with PCOS, I fight against it all the time since it’s so easy to put on weight, and hard to lose it. This false equivalency needs to stop.
Diabetes runs in my family (in my dad's side) and guess one thing they all have in common? They're all obese! I've had 2 family members die from complications and my dad also has so many health issues because of his diabetes. So fine call me fat phobic, I'd rather be that than diabetic.
I have a friend that's really thin but he's diabetic.
Type 1 diabetes is due to genetics. Type 2 is due to your lifestyle traits. Being overweight will make BOTH worse, just like being overweight can make many people with any illness experience worse systems
@@stephaniemarie2742 - why did you feel the need to bring that up? Are you one of those obnoxious Fat Activists who love to say “See you can’t just connect diabetes to obesity. I know skinny people with diabetes!” I have never met a thin person with type 2 diabetes. I know many obese people with Type 2.
“Incorrect opinion” 🥴
if i have x body type and y mental disorder. and someone has b body type and c mental disorder. these things do no affect each other. my body and problems are mine and yours are yours. and it's up to each of us to navigate the things we see and hear in relation to that. for example i am fat and have binge eating disorder as well as a good dose of anxiety and depression. some things 'trigger' me, and it's up to me to deal with that, especially if the trigger is someone talking about their own bodies and disorders. we need to love and support each other yes, and we need to be conscious of our diets - media diets! - and our own self care and compassion. but we can't attack others -- they could be struggling too.
As someone who spent all through childhood til college writing essays only based on mental health and stigmatization of it.
All these people hit every god damn point I've made about stigmatization and gaslighting people into feeling bad about themselves just to bring themselves up (since obviously an elevator can't anymore)
The ONLY thing that is fatphobic it's being bullied for being fat. All this other shit is just reaching because so many people love to play the victim.
It makes me so mad, they don’t understand anything! I’ve been overweight (not obese, just a bit more than my healthy weight) AND I’ve been underweight (result of one year with anorexia, which I’m still recovering from) and both time I had body dysmorphia and it was hard both times. The thing is, this disorder isn’t just about weight, even when I was anorexic, I knew that I was thin but I was seeing my body shaped weirdly and I couldn’t even recognize my face to a point that I was avoiding mirrors. It’s not just because I was seeing myself “fat”, it was my entire reflexion that was DISPROPORTIONED
Anyway I do believe fat phobia exist and is a bad thing but these “fat activists” really don’t know what they’re talking about and it’s ridiculous
i hate how these people NEED to tell you what you are and NEED to tell you how you feel. they just NEED to control other people so badly in order for their whole narrative to work no wonder they feel too exhausted to spend time actually explaining their point of view.
I was once twice the size I should have been, and after years and years of being miserable, I finally did something about it. Yet when I look in the mirror I still see myself as very overweight. So yes I do have fat phobia for myself. I could careless about anyone else and their size, that doesn’t bother me. What bothers me is becoming very unhealthy again like I was when I was fat.
They think the world owes them a living 😒
Lmao bulimia almost killed me I was so selfish and fatphobic 😂🥺
I don’t understand what is so bad about fearing being fat, unhealthy, and not break at sweat walking up 5 stairs
I am fat, my apartment is three stories up and I never sweat going up them. :D Do you get your information from cartoons?
"there are so many conversations you can make about body dysmorphia that doesn't center in perceiving yourself as fatter than you are" ok but many people develop eating disorders such as anorexia and bulimia because they perceive themselves as fatter than they are due to body dysmorphia. that's literally a symptom of what it's like to live with the disorder. we don't perceive ourselves that way to hurt the feelings of fat people, it's a distortion of how we personally look.
I must be fat phobic because I’m about 10 pounds overweight and I don’t like it I want to be in better shape. I have someone in my family who is severely overweight and I see how hard they struggle and move I don’t love them any less but I see how hard it is for them to move around and being tired all the time. I also have a five year old that I want to be able to keep up with and go places without being tired. I don’t see how making decisions about my own body is considered fat phobic. They want to be Big then be Big but don’t try and make me feel bad about wanting to be in better shape. I can’t with people these days.
the absolute worst thing about these messages is the constant " this could hurt kids, this could hurt teens, this could hurt people with eating disorders" when what they really mean is "this hurts MY FEELINGS." They are just hiding behind other people, insisting that they are speaking for "someone else." We've seen enough of these to know that these people never think about anyone but THEMSELVES.
0:55 is the most entitled thing ive ever seen, 'hey im seeing a bunch of people with a debilitating mental illness. How can i make it about me?'
fatphobia does not exist.
True. People who say it's real are privileged.
Well that's not true :D these people use it wrong but it definitely exists
In some ways it does but not like this.
Fatphobia is bullying people for being fat, not what these women tell it is. A doctor asking you to lose weight for your health is not fatphobic
Some people bully others for being fat. I suspect they don't go around looking for fat people to bully, but bully everyone - skinny, short, black, female. Some people are just arseholes, but letting them define how you live, as FAs seem to do, strikes me as letting the bullies win.
....do people not understand that eating disorders are rooted in personal insecurity and not because we "hate fat people"?
As young woman I had body dysmorphia, at 1.62 cm and 57 kg (5'4 and 126 lbs)...why?
a. Because my dorm colleagues were making jokes about my size, my family was making comments about my body all the time, suggesting I might lose some weight, my ex boyfriend (who gained 20lbs since he'd met me btw) was body shaming me , his family was monitoring my size, so I felt wrong all the time, I felt I don't look good enough, I felt I was not good enough for these people, I felt in a way like a failure, I delved into alcoholism and started starving myself,
Or b. because I did not want to look like this specific pink-haired chick on TikTok.
Which one do you say it is?
Can i just say thank you for always using the pronouns and gendered terms that the people you are disagreeing with prefer. So many people misgender those they disagree with as a gotcha. You rock tbh.
As someone who manages life with BDD, watching these tik toks fucking hurt. It's a mental illness - it's not logical and it remains to be severely misunderstood. My disorder causes me to literally perceive my body and other's bodies in a completely warped way; no matter what I do or how I look to others, I will always appear misshapen or just 'wrong' to myself. I know its hard to understand but so much of my struggle comes from perceiving everyone around me - whether taller, shorter, fatter or skinnier - as 'suiting' the way they look, whereas no matter what I change, I never do or will. Thank you for making this video.
“Your mental health issues are fatphobic”💀
Next thing is going to be “your depression is discrimination against people with actual problems” or sum
Actual delusion
Damn. People sure spend way too much time and energy attempting to police other peoples language. It really is amazing.
The commentary on these is always on point! 🔥
God help anyone struggling with body image seeing that “psychologist”. Her entire attitude is stigmatizing and spiteful. No humility or empathy at all for other peoples perspectives and unique personal struggles, and no deep understanding of the nuance in these disorders either. Sounds like she just read the manual and now thinks she knows everything there is to know about what goes on inside peoples minds with BDD. A classic ticking boxes approach. You need a balance of critical discernment and compassion when you are a therapist, not just be an invalidating condescending know it all when people confide in you. She will be someone’s therapist one day and that genuinely terrifies me.
You know tbh I’ve never had much issue with fat acceptance in the past. Aside from some cringy rhetoric I’ve always just viewed it as ppl in larger bodies trying to learn self acceptance in a world where thin is the beauty standard. But now they’re dragging ppl with BDD and ED’s over the coals? This is so harmful and hateful. A real step back in the progress we’ve made in destigmatising those conditions. I’m just…flawed.
You OP are so right. I’ve said this for years, weight and diet culture are only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to these mental illnesses. More often than not the causes stem from pathological perfectionism, a desire to exert control over ones life after trauma, a coping mechanism for things like s3xual assault and the list goes on. Only sometimes does it start with ppl consciously trying to lose weight or begin a diet. I wish more ppl actually knew this!
I didn't know I wasn't fat until I saw a photo image of me, this was about 10 years ago. At a healthy weight (which I didn't know my weight at the time, because I hated weighing myself) I believed I was much bigger than I was in reality.
What is it like to only have incorrect opinions?
Well that’s the great thing. Opinions are SUBJECTIVE. Wow. Magic.
I’ve been binge watching your content to learn how to debate the fat positive arguments, your insight is really helpful!
What’s wrong with being fatphobic ?
Your videos are fantastic! Keep up the great work!
I've actually grown up with a slow metabolism due to poor genetics from both parents, but we grew up very obsessively eating healthy and working out so I actually know what its like being fat naturally. My resting weight sits around 160 if I were to eat like an average american and little workouts. Anything more than that was because I developed a binge eating disorder and stopped working out. There's a max at what your body gains naturally unless you have a VERY rare disorder, but for most people thats not the case. Its very managable for me to stay under 150- it just requires a little more effort than most people. Life is just unfair sometimes, but you have to stop complaining one day and do what you can.
Ive been obese, I’ve been anorexic. Here’s my issue:
A girl gets told that fat is bad so much that she’s literally depriving herself of nutrients due to fear.. and to these people she’s not considered a victim of fatphobia. She’s considered an enemy.
If she was fat, she’d be considered a victim, she needs help, poor girl is starving herself because she thinks fat is ugly. But because she’s thin, she’s being offensive.
We are ALL the same victims!!!
I watch these videos while I’m taking my morning Shit before hitting the gym…thank you for the motivation ✌️
I can't imagine having a group of people tell me I'm offending them for my mental health issue. This is just so entitled to demand others get over an illness because it hurts your feelings
ive got a migraine now.
This is like a boost for me to work out
That is that most judgy psychologist I've ever heard and I hope to the gods that she isn't seeing patients because if that person has insecurities before treatment, they'd have even more after.
i have body dysmorphia, and when i look into the mirror i see myself looking odd. some areas in my body i wish i do not have, some areas that i think i look weird. everything just isnt right. never have i ever thought that i looked like the person during 0:55 - who are you anyway????
regarding their discussion its just so entitled. you can be entitled to your opinion/s but that entitlement has a line you do not cross, if u cross that line honey thats a delusion
This saga gets more insane everyday. Imagine being so fueled by narcissism and insecurity that you take someone else’s mental illness as a personal slight against you.
i love your videos, they have been so fun to binge
These people are the center of the universe and believe that they can police everyone's words.
I just got body dismorphia from the 4:30 lady I'm checking my face constantly
Yeah I'm afraid to look like that. no body dysmorphophobia here just afraid of having a heart attack, bed sores and mobility issues for no other reason but being fat. I said it. I want to look healthy and this isn't it...
the moment you get offended by someone else’s struggle with themself there is something wrong with you
Body dysmorphia goes both ways. There are people that see themselves as smaller than they are as well. It’s not just, “skinny girl thinks she’s fat”.
god damn this person pisses me off because saying “the content…the content!” and then looking at us like we are stupid is just ignorant
love the commentary
I also love how they completely ignore the fact that most of the time restriktive ED's don't develop from wanted to be thin. They mistly are Result of severe Trauma Trauma is a mental coming mecanism.
So no my ED's Intention was NOT "eww I don't wanna be fat" it was more like "I want to die, and I want to suffer" so don't talk crap about "rooted in fatphobia"
The girl at 4:46 looks like she has a beak for a nose holy crap
It grows a micrometer every lie she tells 😬
The way she opens her mouth as wide and big as possible while speaking scares me
if me not wanting to be morbidly obese is fatphobic then I guess I'm fatphobic. I will treat everyone with the love and respect they deserve but im not fatphobic because i want MY BODY to look a certain way
I mean I get it but they’re still dealing with the same issue so you can’t be mad at somebody for how they see themselves. I’m a bigger person who deals with body dysmorphia and understand how anybody can go through this. It’s not fatphobic to have body dysmorphia, they’re doing too much. Like they still see a fat person 💀