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Calling someone a "clown" while studying "Body Image Studies" is a bold move tbh.
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You could tell with the delivery that she was very excited to use that after she saw/came up with it
She could be going somewhere with it, if she was studying actual body dysmorphia and what mental issues causes it and how to help instead of....all this shit she's spewing lol
Western college has weird classes and studies.
I am today years old when I discovered it was a possible phd program to follow. Who thought about it?
as a natural redhead, I would really appreciate if these people would stop peddling the idea that a gene mutation is the same thing as being obese
As another natural redhead, same.
As some one born with black hair and colored their hair pink (close enough😂) I also agree
Especially because dying your hair would absolutely fix the genetic problem 🤪
Thank you for saying that. I have watched quite a few videos where these fat activists bring up red heads.
Here here!!!
They don't use green eyes as an example nearly as much. But they use it enough that I am annoyed by it.
"living in larger bodies" like they're parasites or something jfc I hate that phrase
I bet they say it so they don't have to take accountability for how they got to that size, so they act like they're an "inhabitant" of that body and they can't leave. The level of denial within this cult is unreal.
They are. Look at the massive amount of resources they consume on the daily.
It’s a manifestation of Gnosticism.
Maybe they are...
That explains everything. Their fat is sentient and took over.
Fat people struggles are not being able to wear low rise jeans because those are fatphobic? Such a privilege thing to say...
Exactly, she's just mad at herself
@Nie Fagundes oh, most intelligent people study these idiots bcuz it's so out of the ordinary.
You can't get mad at the clothes for not fitting. If you gain weight you work to lose it. It's really not that hard it would be better than hating on yourself and making millions of excuses. Being fat IS unhealthy. Weight loss is alot of doing its not something you wish for you have to go after it.
@Nie Fagundes true. and to laugh our asses off!
Third world problem: will I eat today?
First world problem: tHiS iTeM oF dEniM iS bEiNg mEaN tO mE
Isn’t her own hatered against low rise jeans because “they don’t look good on bigger people” her own internalised fatphobia? How something looks on someone is personal preference, it is not like they only produce low rise jeans for people size 00-6..
Thank you I was just thinking this
Fattivists like crying about what they think social norms are about what they should wear or look while simultaneously failing to be the example they so desperately cry out for. It's frankly an insult that we even call these crybabies "activists" in the first place.
Yeah exactly. What’s keeping them from getting jeans that fall where their hips are supposed to be located. Just because their stomachs would hang over the top that’s not a reason not to wear them according to their logic. They think they won’t look good in them so no one should wear them because they are the ones who don’t like how they think they make their bodies look. So they must think they look bad. It’s not other people doing that to them. And they deny the very fat phobia they themselves struggle with. They have to find a solution to serious cognitive dissonance they’re experiencing.
Wow for someone who studied body image, she sure is judgmental about bodies.
Remember guys, if you're ever feeling insecure, you'll never be as insecure as a FA with a PhD in body image and a minor in mental gymnastics.
If only it was a minor in physical gymnastics.
That was a good one lol. 🤣🤣🤣
I argued with a woman just like this last night in a crocheting group. She didn't find it fair that independent creators charged more for bigger sized clothing, and thought that the prices for smaller sizes should be increased so that fat people don't need to pay a "fat tax" for their size. Im working on something right now where every row takes me an extra 30 minutes, making a clothing garment that is even one size bigger can take extra HOURS. I wear a s/xs in shirts and I find it so unfair that they think smaller people should have to pay more so that they don't have to. The amount of projection and wrong information in her arguments was unreal.Everything from "fat people can be healthy!" "fat people are just naturally fat!" and "no one owes you health!" and brutal skinny shaming was absolutely crazy. The delusion is unreal.
End of rant, I just never expected to run into so much drama, hostility, and misinformation in a crochet discussion
Wow! I wouldn't have expected that either. I sew a lot of my own clothing, so I see the effort & planning & grading to change sizes in a sensible way (instead of just adding an inch at every seam, ignoring scale and proportion) and the cost of fabric & thread & other notions...most people that complain about clothing prices have NO clue...but you'd think someone who is themselves a crafter would understand the concept!
I’m a tall woman, I am more than happy to pay extra for my pants if it means they will actually fit me. I’m just so grateful that someone somewhere makes them.
Honestly I am not surprised. Its sad because I would HOPE that someone in a crocheting group would A.) Actually want to be there and so would attempt to be pleasant and friendly over a shared interest, the way I would try to behave in settings just like that one, and B.) Since this person DOES understand the basics of sewing and creating an item using such techniques, that they would UNDERSTAND WHY a larger piece of clothing would cost more money.
But she couldn't, because her bitterness is in the way. She doesn't want a "fat tax" because she likely believes she's "suffered" enough as a fat person and therefore wants "skinnies" to pay more for their clothing in a form of revenge AND as a money saver for people like herself. And because she would prefer to be delusional about WHY she is fat, this person has bought completely into this idea that her being fat has NOTHING to do with her own actions or decision making regarding her diet and exercise. Unfortunately now even some really spineless (or greedy) doctors now spout this party line about "health at every size" bc they need to have patients and not get sued over words and advice that triggers fat patients. So that emboldens other professional people and companies to say the same. The echo chamber they have created is EVERYWHERE - even in your crocheting group. It has become more and more prevalent.
It's that same entitlement as wanting plane seats to be bigger and therefore raising cost of tickets for all passengers, so they don't have to pay for two seats. The fact, they demand other people subsidise costs of their lifestyle choices (or results of those choices) is what always gets me
I sew and crochet as a hobby, and have had to be firm about my decision not to make clothes for other people because I just don't want to deal with people getting upset about bigger sizes costing more. The problem with selling handcrafted goods is that you ALREADY have to charge way more than what people are used to paying for a similar store-bought item, or else you are working for pennies or even taking a loss. There's only so much you can raise your prices before people are unwilling to pay. If you are running a small business by yourself and you don't have a huge volume of sales, it's a lot harder to make the costs even out across different sizes. I'm at the point where if someone complains about different sizes costing more, I will offer to send them some resources to get started making their own clothes, and suggest that they can save money by doing it themselves and cutting out the cost of the labor.
This woman is so self-centred. "If I can't wear low rise jeans then nobody can wear them!" I thought I was insecure but these FAs take the cake, which says a lot. It's funny they think they aren't liked for their fatness but it's actually that nobody wants to be near a person who is always in others' business and policing what others wear.
Exactly. It's not thin privilege or discrimination, it's fat consequence.
@@AnnieHarrison25 ^ Omg, there it is, that's exactly it. May I steal this?
@@AnnieHarrison25 I've been wanting say this on Facebook. But completely agree. It's not thin privilege, it's fat consequences.
The irony is she's the only person I've heard saying that particular body types shouldn't wear low rise jeans. She's the judgment.
This video reminded me of something about clothing and bodies. THIS right here is how body positivity should look. czcams.com/video/J1c2KzJbcGA/video.html
'Body image studies' - filters herself all to hell.. C'mon...
She can filter all she wants, ain't no filterinf away those jowls and offensive lineman physique.
@@sergeipohkerova7211 dude ur being no better than her lol. Don’t give her the uphill advantage by stooping below her level lol
@@sergeipohkerova7211 Way to make her look good by comparison. That attitude is disgusting. She's a conkwocket, but her appearance has nothing to do with it. Go take that BS somewhere else.
Lol right? She's just like Foodie Beauty, she can crow about being confident in her appearance, then uses filters that make her look like a completely different person. Just goes to show that all their bluster is 100% false.
@@WobblesandBean that’s like amber but the opposite. Amber says “I’m sooooo ugly, I literally think I’m the ugliest person ever!”. And then is caught eye forking herself in the viewfinder every few seconds and immediately does duck lips while looking like she wants to kiss herself whenever she sees her reflection. Amber says “I’m so ugly”, to fish for compliments. While her narcissism makes her feel like she’s hotter than a Victoria secret model.
It sounds like this woman just need to stay off the Internet because she’s offended by everything.
Yup
Somebody: *sneezes into arm*
Her: hey I’m offended!
@@catsantos353 `she's offended because what about the people who don't have arms. How does that make them feel?
Me: posts on Internet her: what about those who can’t get on the Internet? How do you think they feel?
She has a degree in "body image studies". Getting offended by everything is her field of study.
The irony of this woman calling other people a clown...
It's not up to society to prevent what triggers you. It's up to the individual to seek therapy to treat those triggers within yourself.
Exactly. Especially if you keep your triggers to yourself, how are people supposed to know? It's one thing to let people know ahead of time, so they can show you some patience & compassion when you're in a bad head space, and totally different to expect people to read your mind & walk on eggshells...but that's still on you.
@@AdirondackRuby Totally agree with you. How in the world are we supposed to know everyone's triggers?
Amen!
Yep. I have severe debilitating body dysmorphia, like I had to drop out of public school because I couldn’t leave my house. My triggers aren’t anyone else’s problem. People can post before and after photos all they want . If it triggers me, that’s for me to deal with.
This sums up the problem with the fat acceptance movement, and tbh a lot of the younger generation as a whole, to a t. They think it’s the worlds job to mold to them when in reality it’s their job to deal with the world. The only people you can reasonably expect to care about what “triggers” you or “offends” you is people you actually have a close personal relationship with: family, close friends, a partner etc. They don’t get that. They think strangers are supposed to give a shit about their feelings and alter their speech and their choices to suit their sensibilities. It’s not how the world works. It’s not how the world will ever work. They wouldn’t care about what offends every single person in the world and yet they think it’s reasonable to expect every single person in the world to care about them.
. All these girls need to realize it's not them being fat. It's their terrible personality. I'm fat and because I'm not a complete beeotch I'm well liked. It's not hard to be a good person. I swear all of these "issues" are made up by them in their heads.
Yes, but THAT is the problem!!! They already think SO LOWLY of themselves, that they have to take on other’s personalities, in a desperate attempt to NOT remember how lowly they are. So they won’t stop, until they get for those self esteem issues, but they WONT because they’ve taken on every measure to attempt and not remember. SEE WHY ITS NOT GONNA WORK??!!? 🤪
I was well liked too. I've never been treated poorly because I was fat and the school I was in had, at max, 4 other people who were obese. All of the staff, even the PE teacher, and all other 500+ students were athletic.
i know right!?! i don’t even know why this girl is complaining about society thinking fat people are unattractive. she’s actually really REALLY pretty, i think lots of people would like to date her (including me) based on APPEARANCES but then BAM!! she opens her mouth and her nasty ass personality comes through 🙄🙄🙄 be a nicer person and i can promise you the people will come RUNNING!
I don't think they realise that fat acceptance is extremely fringe & the vast majority of overweight people don't base their entire personality on that one aspect of their lives. I know heaps of overweight & obese people, but they're defined by their talents & passions eg, a dude who's a professor & also plays in a metal band or the dude that's an amazing barber. It's quite sad that this is all these women have. I'm incredibly bipolar & have a host of other medical crap, but it's just something I have & not the basis for my entire identity.
@IMO .well said!.
"Getting a degree in Body Image Research" is a weird way to say "cares too much about what others think of me." Which in turn is too many words for "insecure."
I can’t believe she thinks a piece of clothing not fitting her properly is discrimination. 😑
Feeling uncomfortable in a specific clothing item does not make that clothing fat phobic. Don't like how they make you feel? Then just don't wear them. Is the bar really so low that this is what they complain about as a problem.
I hate khaki corduroy pant suits. I could have a thigh gap the size of the Grand Canyon and you'd still hear me approaching from three square miles away.
It's not that the fabric has been gifted to us from the sales and accounting level of hell. No instead it's clearly that corduroy is fat phobic.
i dont like peplum tops bc im too short. are they shortphobic now?
@@someidiot420 jumpsuits and maxi dresses are also shortphobic. I can't wear them without stepping on the bottoms and looking like some child got into their mother's closet and that upsets me :/
I'm going to start calling my baby sister's shoes "big feet phobic" and my older sister's hair ties "short hair phobic"
She says right in the first video, first thing, "I'm never going to make the argument that having more body fat is a net positive for your physical health.", and I was like, Oh maybe she has a different view on this than we've heard before... but then goes against that statement in nearly every other clip.
I think she’s proof that being “book smart” or having a degree doesn’t necessarily mean you’re intelligent or rational and well informed.
She seems very caught up on clothing. And here's the thing, anyone can wear anything they want. My opinion is that as long as the clothing fits properly and the person is comfortable than that is okey dokey with me. These FA people are so insecure and project those insecurities on literally everyone else.
And not just the insecurities, but the fears...how many fat people (and I'm fat) are actually scared to go to the doctor because of how they'll be treated? For me: Not ever, not once! But the more they mention how mean and evil doctors are, the more they are going to scare fat people away from getting care.
Same lmao, I will go grocery shopping looking like an absolute gremlin but I'm the most comfortable that way. The only downside is when people who may or may not be on substances feeling comfortable walking up to me subtly asking for said substances lol
@@AdirondackRuby Exactly. I have been over weight for most of my life, though I wouldn't consider myself obese by any means, and the only person who has ever given me shit for being my size is me. So much of what these FA people talk about is internalized hate toward themselves. How they can come to the conclusion that everyone else in the world thinks the same horrible shit they think is beyond me.
@@erin_lostinbooks Attitude and Expectations can explain a lot. They go into situations making assumptions, which puts them in a defensive position, therefore creating the awkward situation that they feared. It's all self-fulfilling.
Actually, as a redhead, let me butt in:
Studies show that redheads have a complicated relationship to pain. Higher pain tolerance, but less sensitive to anesthesia therefore requiring more. This is the case for me especially with dental work!
This is NOT because of the red hair. This is because whatever gene that causes red hair, likely also causes me to have a different reaction to pain and pain meds.
Unlike being fat, where the issues are being caused BY the fat. These are 2 very different things, one, a genetic factor outside of my control causes 2 separate traits, and the other is something within her control (being obese) which is causing the issues (worse health outcomes).
For an academic, she does not come off as smart, as this is a very very basic concept.
Edit: someone gonna tell her its pedestal not pedestool?
Redheads have a higher pain tolerance? Not this one. I have always had a low tolerance for pain, and required a lot of freezing at the dentist. I think with increased sensitivity to pain comes increased sensitivity to pleasure too, so I have no complaints.
I thought this was common knowledge at this point. Then again, my uncle's an anesthesiologist and confirmed it long ago. He's said that if someone comes in with red hair, they always have to check whether it is natural or not in order to give them the right dosage.
This woman's comparison of fat people to redheads is just bonkers.
Aren’t bland people the same since both are mutations?
@@magnarcreed3801
I am not sure what you mean with bland.
Blanket answer, if you don’t have red hair then you don’t share the same gene for pain tolerance.
This is not for everyone with red hair, genetics is for majority.
@@C0d0ps
Blond. Read some study ages ago that said they had a higher tolerance. Think it was in regards to women specifically?
They’re just mad because skinny girls are gonna look good in low rise jeans. You don’t have to wear what’s in trend! If you don’t like the way something makes you look… don’t wear it
I am not fat at all but i cant wear low rise jeans because my big butt would pop out lol and i dont care if othera can wear them and i dont
I hate low rise jeans and I'm thin just because I feel like my pants are constantly falling down 😭
@@jaycraw6978 fr thoooo, like I think they just look goofy and they feel awkward, but I'm not gonna make a bunch of TikToks about it hfhdhd
I'm not fat and I look awful in low rise jeans. Lol That's just a hot negative of a look on me. 😬
Y'all are all Right!!!!
I think by "fatphobic" she means that such pants "look less attractive when worn by heavyset people versus slender people."
Oh well. Lose some weight then.
Which, if she acknowledged it, is her own personal opinion and, hence, exposes her own fatphobia. Gorl's got some work to do.
Exactly this. Low rise pants are made in every size, but a muffin top is a muffin top. Plus, she has one of the most beautiful faces I've seen in a long time. So her bitching about these pants is like me bitching about makeup being "plainphobic" because no amount of makeup in the world will give me her really nice facial features.
Not saying I'm ugly, just saying she has an unfairly pretty face. She looks like a goddamn disney princess. If she went to the gym and got the physique she could get, she could be a model.
And one more thing that comes to mind. Low rise jeans also look weird on people with short legs. Because they visually bisect the body at a lower point. High waisted pants visually lengthen the leg. But nobody is up in here going on about how they're shortphobic either.
@@BeckBeckGo
Wait really? I wear low rise jeans a lot and I like them because I think they lengthen my torso, even better when I pair them with tops that aren’t cropped it makes me look so much taller
You just know that vocal fry comes from her not having enough oxygen to finish her sentence.
🤭
I thought it was from all of the fat, greasy foods she consumes, and everytime she lies or says something stupid, the oils centralize towards her throat.
what about the claw hands?
I can't stand when people say "pedi-stool"... The word is pedestal.
I am 99% sure I went to highschool with this girl. She had a know-it-all personality even then, and the one time I actually interacted with her, she was really rude to me. It's weird seeing her on CZcams, such a small world.
I don’t wear rompers or jumpsuits. They look TERRIBLE on me. I don’t cry about it, I just don’t buy them. Girl, if you want to wear the low rise jeans, do it. No one cares. If you like how you look in them, then rock them.
Clothing trends are cyclical. They go in and out through the years no matter the trend. End of story. These people take everything personally because they’re narcissistic.
Yep if you make it to 30+ and haven't noticed some trend from your youth coming back (perhaps with a minor twist), you've just not been paying attention.
I'm amused that the skinny jean trend has swung so far left that the new "flared pants" trend are like 10% actual flare/bell bottom and 90% just straight cut/boot cut. The fact that skinny jeans don't work with my lower half being built like a running back is not a personal affront, I just have a body outside the mass market norm for that garment.
Remember those stretchy, flared, crazy print boho pants that were popular 5+ years ago? Omg I hope those stay gone 🙏 😢. I never tried them because they are ugly and don't flatter any body.
@@absolutelyridiculous6743 oh god I remember those prints 😭 late 90s and early 2000s is super cute but the era from like 2005-2013 is just TERRIBLE
@@Santiago-in1xf Exactly. As for me I love the skinny jeans because as a tall woman I can buy off the rack and get away with them being a little higher up the ankle. The flared/bell bottom/wide leg pants however are just too short so they look ridiculous on me. I am grateful though that I can buy these styles for tall women online. I’m also more than happy to pay extra if it means they’ll fit me.
@@absolutelyridiculous6743that’s the opposite problem I have lmao,while I wouldn’t mind if it’s no longer a trend I can’t lie and have to admit that they looked more flattering on my hourglass shaped body then skinny jeans did. 🙃
Not this girl saying "people can be healthy at any size!"
Oh okay, so Life By Jen, she's healthy then, despite being bed bound for like a year now? She's perfectly healthy only being able to sit up in bed 10 times a day. That's optimum health right there.
A pinnacle of health we should all aspire to be.
haes only works for obese people. The second one says "haes!" and points at Eugenia Cooney, that's when it's problematic 🤔
@@venomg5799 I know, I really need to try harder to eat all the cheese on the face of the earth, and never EVER, under NO CIRCUMSTANCES, move a single muscle. Then I'll be the healthiest blob there ever was
@@AKbaby89 you made me have a big, hearty belly laugh omg you're silly.
@@venomg5799 hey now, calm down, you don't want to wake up your muscles🤣
As someone with a PhD (I’m a microbiologist bioinformatician), this woman seems like she thinks her PhD is her entire personality. The kind of person to say ‘I didn’t do a PhD just to have you call me mrs!’
For anyone who thinks qualifications are gospel, they’re not. I encounter countless people who have PhDs and have no idea wtf they’re talking about. Trust me, qualifications aren’t the end all be all. Some people are super qualified by not intelligent. Depends on the school, their experience, their personality etc etc
I've learned from working within Hospital systems that doctors and nurses are incredibly knowledgeable but only in their field of expertise, outside of that they shouldn't have opinions cuz they ignorant as everyone else!
Like the time my stepdad, an ER nurse, tried to talk at me about my ovarian cancer like he knew a damn thing about it, I had to tell him that he is an ER nurse and not a doctor of oncology to shush and let my doctor decide on my care.
He got really cranky and it broke down to, 'But I'm a nurse and you should listen to me because I know things!' Yeah Dad, sure you do but I am not going to decide to remove both of my ovaries cuz youre an ER nurse. Turns out none of that was necessary and both of my ovaries are exactly where they should be but had I listened to him I would have been steered the complete wrong direction, all because he couldn't admit he didn't have enough knowledge on the topic.
I feel like this needs to be said- sorry for the RANT: I have had anorexia in all of it's forms ( atypical and nervosa) for over 15 years- what you need to learn for full recovery, is to really work hard to change your mentality of being triggered by everyone ELSE's actions. This comes in the forms of not following those who post before and after pics, or anything like that. YOU- key word being YOU, need to learn how to deal with a world that doesn't have an ED or is not triggered by something like a pic and there is NO WAY you can ever fully recover if your recovery is predicated on OTHERS actions or on THEM changing. Some people find before and after pics inspiring and uplifting. Who the EFF am I to say that they shouldn't have that content or create that content because of my disordered eating and body image??? that makes NO real sense and is not realistic. Also, as a side note- It is so lazy and annoying to have these 'activists' and 'researchers' tell people that everyone is at IMMEDIATE risk for EDs like they can be caught like a cold...it just doesn't work this way.
They make it seem like serious EDs are the same as a little bit of disordered eating or going on a diet. People like us who end up in years long battles with EDs were neurologically primed for that to happen and often go through trauma and have co morbid mental illnesses. It’s so complex. Looking at a weight loss photo can’t give someone an ED. I developed mine without any influence from social media. It was only once I already had it that I unfortunately started using the internet to propel me along the dark path.
6 years later still trying to recover and no matter how many triggers I avoid I won’t recover unless I do the work MYSELF. As you said.
Wishing you the best x
@@neonk2222 I agree totally, and I wish you the best as well :). I developed my ED in the late 90s as a teenager. There was no social media. There were fashion magazines and all that- but those didn’t ‘cause’ my ED… can they perpetuate and make recovery harder? Yep… but it’s complex, as you well know. Take care :)
i do agree people should be allowed to post before and after pics. she is right about one thing though people shouldn't be posting during and after eating disorder post, especially if they're a recovery page bc that's triggering to a large amount of their following typically. Also posting them makes it seem like ed are weight disorders when they're really mental illnesses'.
This is so accurate. Also just wanted to say thank you for this comment thread. I have struggled with my anorexia for about twenty five years. I'm struggling right now. I appreciate you guys making yourselves visible to me, I feel less alone.
Congrats to you on your recovery. I wish you all the best.
I love how someone who uses obscene amounts of vocal fry for literally every word that comes out of their face makes fun of how someone else sounds. **deceased**😂
“Is being fat bad for you?” Yes
You know you’ve reached the pinnacle of privilege and entitlement when you can center your fight for justice around jeans. FML Furthermore, why don’t these people ever address Tammy Slaton or Amberlynn or Foodie Beauty or Steven Assanti or James King or Sean Milliken, or Lisa Fleming or Gina Krasley??? Why is it crickets on the issue of people who are obviously very ill due to their morbid obesity, or have died from it? These people are very selective, and rather than being honest, they whinge on about low rise jeans.
Because all of their theories hinge upon selective thinking, is my belief. They know they aren't being honest. Although there are a select few who are so insane they've completely bought into the cult.
I’d really like to know if these “health at every size” people think that severely underweight individuals are also as healthy and as beautiful as severely overweight individuals…
15:57 "Classically" bigger bodies were seen as a sign of wealth. Because they had more access to food and barely had to move to get things done. So actually she is wrong about this.
Even now. *OBESE* privilege is having enough money to constantly shovel food into your mouth.
Going by the extant examples we have of classical statuary, that was not the case.
I was obese until a month ago, can confirm I ate until I got there.
Is it that ‘fat people are more likely to be poor’ or poor people are more likely to be fat cause there’s a difference. If you’re fat and then poor maybe you had job discrimination or whatever else they say about societal treatment of fat people. but If poverty leads to fatness because of lack of funding/access to healthy food, a likelihood to food hoard or binge when food isn’t scarce (or to prevent scarcity in the future) then that’s a different thing altogether.
It's for sure the latter.
@@temp_unknown right?? Ugh I hate when people twist causality around, it’s a good way to manipulate data and honestly just makes me question her research skills even more
Obesity is a multifaceted issue. Here in western culture it is typically exacerbated by poverty yet not the complete cause, altho yes, those impoverished here r frequently heavier
@@catsantos353 Depends on what you include under western culture. Here in Czechia it costs roughly the same to eat healthy meals as it does unhealthy meals. If you choose seasonal produce and cook your meals it might actually be cheaper to eat healthy. I think we're very lucky, fastfood chains have always had higher prices and smaller sized products here in central Europe than in US. I'm also grateful for EU regulations that keep even some junk foods healthier than their US versions.
yeah that wording was odd. yall are not poor bc you are fat. yall are fat bc you are poor. and none of these people look like they're poor anyways.
When you are so privileged that it comes full circle and becomes "oppression" 🙄
I challenge these people to visit a third world country and see what oppression really is.
Side note: Does she realise that fashion is viewed differently depending on the specific society you are in. For example in the United Arab Emirates western fashion while tolerated is not societally acceptable.
You're absolutely right and have raised an interesting point. All of her bleating is based solely upon Western fashion standards. No consideration or interest in how fashion standards in other countries or societies may affect women. THAT sounds more worth someone's time to research.
As someone with an ED I have never been triggered by Before/After pictures.
Erectile Dysfunction is no laughing matter!
She just sounds bitter tbh...
*miserable
Sounds like She harbors lots of jealousy, most likly towards women who aren't obese.
They’re really handing out PHD’s to everyone. I remember when earning a PHD was actually an accomplishment.
Tbh it's a PhD for "Body Image Research" so not a very astute doctorate to begin with.
Just the first clip in and this girl is comparing being fat with being a redhead. Yeah, the same people that compares fatphobia with racism, homophobia, ableism... She just compared it with being redhead.
we're so oppressed 😞 im gonna create my own movement now
I know, right? The term fatphobia implies that they're a minority group that didn't choose to be how they are (e.g., homophobia and transphobia), so these people can feel validation for their poor life choices for the little to non-existent self-esteem that they have.
@@AnnieHarrison25 transgenders chose to be who they are if we are going by their logic of “choosing” to change genders. Normal people believe u can’t change genders at all as woman/man = adult female/adult male - which cannot be changed at all.
a woman pursueing a PhD (or has idk fully) says science isn't science.....
how does she pass her classes???
It's common in "soft" science, such as sociology and anthropology to analyze the effects of social precepts on seemingly objective science. Not justifying any of her drivel, mind you
Wow, the low self-esteem is palpable. As a size 14 girl who loves low-rise, she needs to have a whole seat. You, she, and anyone else are free to their opinion that I'm too fat for my jeans, that the style looks bad on everyone, that they're outdated, or any variety of opinions they might have. No one is going to faint in the street because I'm an overweight girl in low-rise jeans. No one's eyes are going to roll out of their skull into traffic and cause an accident. No one is going to arrest me for the crime of belly pudge, so I could not care less what society or anyone else thinks of how I look in the jeans *I* like to wear. Also, what is with these absolutely NOT fat girls having this perception that they're so large, AND by virtue of that so hideous, that society itself will collapse if they wear clothes that don't hide them under a tent? What is their perception of "normal" that they think a bit of belly pudge and chubby cheeks is the same as 400+lbs of morbid obesity? Srsly, the self-image issues are crazy with this crowd, key word being "SELF."
Hi, you sound like you have such a healthy attitude to weight and really that’s all anyone could want. You probably look fab in your jeans but more importantly you feel good in them and who cares what body standards say. I know the damage of body shaming but worked on myself to increase damaged self esteem. I’m a uk 16 and don’t care as long as I’m comfortable healthy and happy like you sound. If everyone could share that attitude and stop over criticism and relax without reaching dangerous levels of weight!
Losing fat and gaining muscle has made me absolutely love my body. I'm also proud of the work I've put in to achieve it,if I want to share my myself and after I will,it's literally about me being proud of what I've done not about a single other person.
Working on that as well. 14kgs to the endpoint. Still a layer of fluff. But when I tense my muscles, I love my body so much. As a 6pack is visable below my layer of bodyfat, and my arm muscles are huuuge. Just hidden for the last bit. Almost there. So I absolutely get what you mean and hell I am for certain going to show off once there.
@@YoungMorningkeeper good for you show that hard work off, well done on all your gains!
This lady's tik toks actually killed some of my brain cells. Good work as always, Funtie
Women who fry their voice like that, are so pretentious and condescending.
The vocal fry 😭
The red hair thing is such a weird comparison.....because there are inherent health issues that come with red hair and we do combat them in a way similar to dying our hair.
We are at significantly increased risk of skin cancer, even compared to other white people. So, get this, we DO change things about ourselves and our actions to adapt to that. We wear more intense sunscreen to protect our skin. To animals that can see UV light it would appear that we are changing the color of our skin.
We are literally changing the color of our skin to combat the health risks associated with our red hair.
Her example is so stupid though bcuz even if you dye your hair your real hair is still there & the problems you mentioned don't go away bcuz your hair is a different color. I'm having a hard time articulating why/ how i find this argument so stupid compared to being *OBESE*
I’m not a redhead but did know this, and thought the exact same thing.
Also if I’m not mistaken you feel more pain.
@@emiliafeoli2287 redheads experience pain differently. Some pains are more severe than for most people, while others are less severe. Also,, anesthesia is often less effective for us.
Auburn-hared here. I live my life slathered in SPF-60 and wearing a hat. My hair still turns orange by August.
@@taylorhillard4868 yeah apparently my lady parts are more sensitive, good news for my partner, bad news for me when I get a pap. Pain killers don't work well, but I get aaall the side effects from medications. It's weird.
As a current doctoral candidate preparing for my dissertation defense, I see that her blueprint is already written. Lol. She’s going to use her doctorates to academically articulate her insecurities all over these platforms. But also as a former 300 pound man, I have the wherewithal to know that I was unhappy in that phase in my life. I’m thinking about that as I’m typing this while stretching before my workout. Moral of the story, she has the energy to put herself through the rigors of a PHD program but doesn’t have the same energy to work on those insecurities by changing her habits. It’s unfortunate but it’s becoming the norm I see.
You can atually watch the timeline through this girl's videos where she goes from being on the fence to drinking the kool-aid. That's why more recent videos contradict older ones. Its It's sad spiral to watch, this movement is so cult-like its ridiculous.
The before and after photos thing… how is it any different to taking a photo of your room before and after you clean it… it doesn’t mean it wasn’t a worthy room before… or that you’re more worthy because you cleaned it… it’s literally just a photo of progress you wanted to make in whatever way that means to you… it has nothing to do with anyone else.
Having people tell me I'm losing weight and I look smaller feels good to me, I love it. I didn't like being almost 300 pounds and I was heading towards that, it was scary to me. This woman seems unhappy when people are happy and it's sad to me. She flip flops constantly and can't seem to keep it straight.
It's also about the effort. You're not getting smaller by doing nothing, you have a goal you're actively working towards and that alone is praiseworthy. It would be rude, if people didn't acknowledge results of your hard work.
idk why but I really hated when ppl would comment on me losing weight always made me feel super awkward like mind your own business lmao
I think it was partly bc ppl (luckily) never commented on me being fat so it was really weird when they would suddenly talk about my body
@@Te3time for me, I went through medications. 5-6 pills a day through puberty, it messed up my body. To this day I'm working on it and to have someone say something positive about it is refreshing compared to the negative things I heard as a kid and a lot of the time I was telling myself what was wrong with me, my self-esteem is 10ft under from the medications so it's nice for me and I feel better. I've lived in isolation, but I'm now coming out of my shell and improving on myself, it's still a work in progress.
As an underweight person, ill say that much: low rise jeans are an offence to any body type, and they are uncomfortable as hell. Period. Absolute atrocity of a clothing item.
Mid-rise or High-rise...nothing else...no one needs to see your panties...that's why it's called UNDERwear. LOL
Well thats you… but on the other hand ME? 😍
I loved low-rise baggy jeans as a teen. I couldn't handle the oppressive feeling of high-waisted jeans. I still hate it but I learnt to wear high-cut jeans bc it looks good. But I still love low-cut sweatpants or baggy pants, it's so comfy and I love the 90s look personally. I'm a size S/M, so not skinny at all
@@veruschkadahmer1805 I think the difference there is Baggy, verses the bootcut or flared low-rise jeans of the early 2000s. Something loose/baggy sitting on the hips can look comfortable, relaxed, or even sexy.
Bro I just hate jeans 💀
God, that woman is so uncomfortable to listen to. Thanks for being a voice of reason, funtie
Damn they're just giving phds out like candy on halloween these days - fr though just because she claims to be on the path to a doctorate doesn't mean she will ever actually receive one
nah it’s probably just the easiest (and most bias affirming) class she could get while also claiming to be a doctor. she gonna pull up at her body image doctorates graduation w an undergraduate in fat studies and a masters in ‘healthy at every size’ theory🤭😂😂😂
@@princessatellaluma what a joke omg these people are pathetic
I don't understand why low rise jeans are considered fatphobic by the same crowd that embraced crop tops, wearing lingerie as clothing, and insists that every body is a beach body. To be clear, I don't have a problem with anyone wearing whatever they like. I'm just confused why they are drawing the line at low rise jeans in particular.
The "I'm not going to tell you what to do with your body BUT" trend is getting super old fam.
This chick looks like one I worked with in a Mexican restaurant when I was younger. She dyed her hair the same shade of red I used to wear, started wearing red lipstick, and started wearing clothes similar to what I used to wear. She was a total weirdo and I’m glad to see she’s doing wellish
Everyone needs a #1 fan! Snag her back!!! You can lure her back using a bucket of KFC.
a PhD in "body image studies" :SMH: Well said, when I used to be fat I did dislike my body and it was not as good (in terms of looks and health), that is why I put in the effort to make changes.
not a thing...
@@Melanco001 right? What college is this from the Tess Holiday Technical Institute Online?
@@aroguefox SCREAM💀 where is she getting this phd from.. and you KNOW she’d be constantly talking down on people telling them ‘fatphobia is real! i know what i’m talking about!!! i’m a doctor 😤✋🏾’
Saying that you can't respect a PhD in body image studies because disagree with one particular person is quite stupid. Body image as a topic doesn't have to be about fat activist nonsense. It can just as easily be about how social norms and ideals can cause eating disorders and other psychological problems.
To anyone who has any understanding how academia works, these comments make it blatantly obvious that the commenters have no clue what they're talking about.
@@princessatellaluma the jock scientist calls herself a scientist with a BS. This woman will demand to be called God.
I’m going to buy and wear more low rise jeans because I finally love my body and nobody including this woman can stop me 🫶🏻 If you wanna wear them wear them. If you wanna lose weight to do it, do that. Wanna stay big? I don’t care. Yeah, you shouldn’t treat fat people rudely regardless of what they wear (as long as there’s no nudity slip for obv reasons). But you also shouldn’t tell smaller people what to wear ❤️ Hopefully this woman learns from her mistakes.
Ehh... I know I'm going to sound like a broken record, but I'm a grown-ass man who stands 4'11". I'm secure enough in my gender that I don't care about the fact that I most often find jeans that fit in the Ladies' section.
Because of this, I also have a preference for low-rise ANYTHING. I buy low-rise JOCKEY Y-FRONT BRIEFS, cos the "classic fit" come up halfway to my armpits, and I feel like I'm a little kid playing dress-up in daddy's clothes. Low-rise briefs, low-rise jeans... They come up to my waist, or just below.
Has this woman ever thought that there are more body types than the ultra-slim that look flattering in a lower waistline on jeans? She's clearly prejudiced against pygmies like myself.
I’m glad it’s been said how similar Anti-vaxxers and these FA are. Like I’ve noticed for a while how similar they are when it comes to health and research about said health. They always try and find the, maybe 10 articles that support their arguments, while ignoring the thousands that say otherwise. And then have the audacity to say THEY know more than doctors.
Same, they're similar in their thinking, it seems.
Climate Change Denial comes to mind, as well.
i love how for anything we do for ourselves, we suddenly need "valid" reasons for it 🙄🙄 sure i wanna be more conventionally attractive and maybe that's not the healthiest mindset, but at least recognize it's solely a me problem and no one else's business to comment on (unless they're like a therapist i'm seeing)
Yeah you raise an interesting point
1:55 fun fact but it’s actually true that red heads have health problems. As a ginger, I know because of my genetics that I have a higher risk of skin cancer due being more sensitive to vitamin D exposure/consumption. There’s also little things like pain medicine not working as well and also being more likely to overdose on anaesthesia if a surgeon is not careful. The thing is, these issues aren’t due to having red hair (red hair is just the byproduct of having the recessive gene). No amount of dying my hair will get rid of these factors as it’s baked into my biology but I will still make the effort to put sunscreen on and to not stay in the sun for too long.
That’s not to say I don’t get mean comments about my hair, freckles, pale ass skin, I do but I can’t change those factors without spending money that will temporarily change my appearance. Losing weight is free and, when done right, is healthy. Tanning my skin, putting a shit ton on foundation on my freckles and bleaching my hair is expensive and damaging :/
Also love your content btw
Ive been so excited about the return of low rise because I only wear low rise pants. Maybe it's just my sensory issues but I can't stand having jeans fabric over my stomach. Even regular waist pants are uncomfortable to me. I'd much rather wear clothes that look bad that don't make my sensory issues debilitating. But like it's not like I think high waisted pants are ableist just because my disability makes them uncomfortable. I just don't buy them. Why can't these people just not buy the clothes they dislike? Why act like other people having different comforts in clothing is "oppressive"?
To the women featured in this video:
Tell me you’re jealous and bitter without telling me you’re jealous and bitter 🙄
"Low rise jeans are unflattering on fat bodies"
...And?
most clothes on
Oh god... the vocal fry is making it really hard... what causes that is there a study? Also why does it make me want to chop my ears off?
The whole debate on before and after picture is a pain.
I have an eating disorder and one that they like to gloss over a lot. Sooo yeah.
Hearing her talking about how before and after photos are inherently fat phobic made me think of before and after photos for transitioning. Should trans people not post before and after photos because some people don’t have the money or ability to transition? Is posting a before and after photo going to send the message that they were less of a person before they transitioned? It’s really the same logic
These people never have consistent logic, I bet she's fine with trans people doing it.
She’s ok with people changing themselves if they want, it just has to be for reasons she thinks are valid. 🙄
"What does 'obesity' me-e-a-n"?
As a morbidly obese person, according to BMI charts, I just want to say, I am so very tired of all the woketivists at this point...
Even though I'm healthy as a horse for my age, I'm gonna work on losing weight because my knees hurt and I don't like the way it looks on other people, so it can't really look better on me, no matter how much I love myself.
I want to work toward the best version of myself, and THAT is how much I love myself.
Her asking people to really think about why they want snatched bodies for the summer, why do people need to have a very deep or non-aesthetic reason to lose weight or gain weight? what people want to do with their bodies shouldn’t need a reason behind it which is socially acceptable. if I want to lose or gain weight for my own aesthetic reasons I think it should be considered normal and it shouldn’t be anybody’s business. I want to do what I want to do with my body and if someone is really body positive or body neutral they would not ask me as to why I want a thin body or why I want a bigger body. I want a body in which I feel comfortable and I’m not going to ask other people to be in the same body as me that would be rude, but let me do what I want with my body without people asking me to justify it.
One minute in and we get a broken analogy of "people with red hair". as though simply dying it actually changes anything. Putting a new coat of paint on a broken car is still a broken car. This was bad enough but then we move onto the "many people" argument which doesn't make any attempt to actually qualify or quantify anything in its vagueness. This means nothing she says can be put into an arguable perspective for relative impact in order to support that the overall picture deserves the term "nuanced". If all of her concerns are 5% of the picture then that's practically worthless. She's throwing conceptual fragments up in the air in hopes that something sticks. And she's going for a Ph.D? Where's the DATA to back those claims? Even then how many of those are also simply non-sequiturs? The continuous droning vocal-fry is was delivered with certainly didn't help sell any of this context-free mess....
So redheads are broken cars?!?! How dare you dehumanize us! Every redhead who is murdered from now on is your fault!
😆😂🤣 I was inspired by this chick's nonsensical ramblings. Thought I'd see how it feels to freak out over nothing.
I just don't understand the low-key denigration of people that have made changes to improve their health by this supposed mental health professional. If someone puts in the effort, makes positive lifestyle changes, & (gasp) loses weight, they should be celebrated & feel proud of the accomplishment...& freely talk about it. This lady sounds angry & bitter.
The conflation of weight loss and plastic surgery is so frustrating and just plain wrong. I lost weight to have more energy and freedom and flexibility in my body. Living an active life and eating a nutritious diet has improved my life in so many ways, from the inside out. At the same time, I accept my crooked nose and forehead wrinkles because they do not impact my health. If I were to get Botox or a nose job, I’d be making superficial external changes, not internal ones.
While I agree it's not a good comparison, some plastic surgeries can absolutely help you improve your quality of life and mental health. I had a deformity fixed and it helped me tremendously. It would always be at the back of my mind and I would avoid activities, that made it hard for me to hide it. I might have made an external change, but it did have a huge positive effect on both my mental health and lifestyle.
I'm dumbfounded that this person was accepted into a PhD program of any sort, never mind that "Body Image Studies" sounds problematic in and of itself, IMO.
The only reason I'm nervous for low rise jeans to become popular again is because the fashion industry usually picks one style and gets rid of others and I just don't feel comfortable in them. Calling a type of jean "fatphobic" is ridiculous.
Major fashion trends changes every year, more so every season nowadays with the rise of online fast fashion. It’s fine, soon they’ll be un cool again and we won’t have to see them 😌
Low rise jeans are people phobic. They're the worst. lol Is she aware that not all people can wear every single item of clothes out there? I can't wear my granddaughter's 5T pants and dresses. Discrimination! I feel slighted. 😒
😂😂they really are ppl phobic😂😂 i used to be a size 0 n still didnt look good in them
Low rise jeans look better on me than high rise jeans because of my rectangular body shape and bloating.
It really depends on your body and I wish people would stop metaphorically burning low rise jeans at the stake in order to be quirky.
I think my brain just leaked from my ears listening to this nonsense plus the annoying vocal fry. Pretty sure she is getting that PhD from the back of a cereal box. I don't know how Funtie Times does this. I'm gonna give you your flowers girl 🌼
Your analysis is absolutely stunning. You videos are well thought out, very well articulated and you obviously have an incredibly analytic mind. Brava!!
What exactly is a 'body image' degree? Sociology? Psychology?
It's in the mental gymnastics branch of science.
As someone who has dealt with restrictive ED's since i was 11 i'd like to say its not the weight loss posts im triggered by it's way more likely the morbidly obese girls showing their body/eating , especially with captions along the lines of "this is what happens when you let go"
That's a good point, I've never had an ED but now that you mention it, that makes sense.
@@gypsylee333 I can’t speak for all ED patients but they always fall back on the excuse that they’re somehow helping us by showing their obese bodies ?? In reality they’re just using our mental illness to justify their own terrible eating habits/BED. Showing most don’t know much about how restrictive ED’s work . Some call us fatphobic like it’s a surprise to them lol but not in the sense they mean it . Our fatphobia is entirely self contained , we don’t hate fat people we just fear gaining weight. Also wanna say they simplify ED’s to just “societal beauty standards” which obviously plays a part but it’s way more complex than that. No one starves themselves bc they wanna be pretty often it’s a control thing getting some form of security in your life. Whilst they find comfort in feeling full, restrictive ED patients get that reassurance from the emptiness feeling.
Kinda resent them using a mental illness to reconcile with themselves/convince vulnerable ppl that they’re healthy bc they’re not starving themselves.
@@sweetpeafairy2255 yeah I do get the control part. It's funny cuz they keep going on about how they can't control being fat, 95% of diets fail, but anorexia happens often because it's the one thing people CAN control.
6:45 So before & after pictures might be troubling for people with ED's? How about nobody is allowed to post pictures of their pet dogs because I was attacked by one and traumatized as a kid? Maybe people should work out their mental issues on their own and not have us cave to every trigger out there? Her argument is as bad as "You can't have cake because *I'm* on a diet!"
Isn't it inherently "fatphobic" to imply that an item of clothing is unflattering on fat people?
"Body image studies" Lmao i can't believe that's a real degree. Also "Body image Researcher" i just can't take her seriously when she says shít like that 😂
it’s not a real degree, even if it technically is lol
"low rise jeans are fatphobic" tell me you wanna play the victim without telling me you wanna play the victim.
And no, you can't be healthy at any size. Come on this is ridiculous
I actually agree with her about the obesity paradox being potentially false because people tend to lose weight when ill/dying. That actually seems like a reasonable question that I think a lot of these folks don't acknowledge when they say "well look, bigger people live longer!"
at 9:55... but there IS an ideal weight for every height...... how can they dismiss MEDICAL BASED FACTS so easily? lmao
To be fair, I can't think of a single article of clothing that doesn't look better on a healthy bmi body compared to an obese one. So is all clothing fat phobic then? Should we all just walk around naked?
If this woman feels self conscious in those pants and prefers other pants that's fine, but it's her issue, not society's. I'm old enough to remember when extremely low rise pants were in style the first time, and literally everyone wore them. Muffin tops were proudly displayed between a grommet belt and thong straps on one side, and a crop top on the other. No one was putting fat people in jail for wearing this style.
She sounded pretty reasonable until she compared extra weight to hair colour about 30 seconds in
I wonder if the mistreatment they suffer at the hands of health professionals is just them being weighed and advised to lose weight to improve their health. The injustice of it all
Her comment about low rise jeans is insane. It goes directly against what fat activists day.
Her eyes betray her words. She looks so sad and her face looks like it's trying really hard to stop her from talking. She looks like the victims from "get out".
I think this community would make for a fascinating study on what I've found to be an almost "softcore" form of radicalization. They operate kind of like the terfs and alt right groups, roping (usually insecure) people in with a logical assertion that all people are deserving of respect regardless of body type, an argument no rational person disagrees with, and then gradually introducing more fringe and outlandish ideas until the movement ultimately takes precedence in their lives. Like, I know these people tend to make fun of and hate incels and MGTOW folks, but they fell for the same tactics those guys did online.
If all people with one characteristic (weight or redheadedness) across all social spheres were suddenly having a very specific and set of health issues that were common amongst all sufferers, we would OF COURSE investigate that characteristic first. That’s how it works.
We’re not like:
People who don’t wear seatbelts are more likely to die in car crashes, better start looking into the societal biases against the anti-seatbelt crowd!