"The SKINNIES are oppressing fat people!!" | Fat acceptance TikTok cringe
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Saying “Skinnies are an oppressive class” while there’s literally millions of children dying of starvation worldwide is GOBSMACKING. The lack of self awareness is insane. Most of these people are the size that they are because they have the PRIVILEGE of eating themselves sick.
just more division and dumbness.
I think my brain died
It’s 2022 where fat white people who choose to eat McDonald’s every hour are considered a oppressed group and they should have the whole entire world cater to them and they as oppressed as people of color
It's also a racist term. It was widely used in the 90s by US Soldiers deployed to Somalia to describe the locals that were dying from starvation.
Well said.
Sis really compared herself to a mountain
"Mow-innsss" 🥴😂
She needs to compare herself to a snake! Hisssssss
Right?!?!?
It was giving indie singer vibes haha
Key distinction: mountains and redwood trees don’t take up hospital beds because they had a diabetic seizure.
imagine a very anorexic person saying "look at that delicate tree branch, that tiny beautiful butterfly, i want to be as small as them so my heart feels light and my soul feels no stress" to justify their condition... that's just as delusional as that lady comparing her overweight body with a mountain
Also-- the sky does not take up space-- I refuse to accept that
Exactly
people really do that though lol. I mean it's not funny but 'pro ana' communities have existed online for years. usually gets shamed a lot more though.
@@unoriginal_name4576 have pro ana spaces been as public as fat acceptance spaces though?? 😂
@@44kgangel yes, before I deleted tiktok I saw a ton of it on there. as well on twitter. you can probably go look for it now and you'll see, but again people will shame it a lot more imo. they usually know they're sick and want to get thinner. unlike fat acceptance where they think they're healthy and naturally fat.
Using mountains and the ocean size to justify humans bodies sizes is a different level of mental gymnastics.
Especially because, thanks to climate change, we are DEFINITELY questioning the size of the oceans right now. It’s ALMOST as if HUMAN INVOLVEMENT can have an UNHEALTHY EFFECT on the SIZES of stuff! 🫠
‘mountains are big’ yea but do their knees hurt as a result? i rest my case.
not to mention that there is a very real concern that thanks to climate change, mountains are shrinking as the ocean expands and all of the glaciers melt
but as an avid mountaineer, can confirm, only my knees hurt after big alpine days, not the mountains.
I love the way they use “the thins” “skinnies” like they’re hurling this horrific word to harm thin people it feels so silly
It smacks of unpopular goth girls in high school talking about ~the preps~ . Let’s adopt the Thins like we’re the Plastics. 😂
Yeah Michelle McDaniels aka My thoughts will provably offend you, talked about "the thins" thing and commented saying should she call them "the fats"? And how stupid that sounded either way.
Lets just start calling “the fats” and see how that feels.
if anything it's a compliment coz it takes a lot of hard work to stay a healthy weight for my height so ngl I'm taking as a compliment
Hahaha it seems like some Game of Thrones shit, “the others”
That fantastical "divine" shit made me cringe so hard I had to go to the bathroom 💀
A fat activist died of *possible* sleep apnea recently...that's a consequence of obesity and is much, much less common in normal/underweight people.
this is really sad. i hope they rest in peace but i also really hope this is a wake up call :/ undoubtedly some FAs are going to say ‘its because their doctor was fatphobic and didnt help them and blamed their health issue on their weight! medical malpractice!’ etc. they are actually killing themselves
None of the activists publicized that, I'm sure.
I know I shouldn't be speaking ill about the dead but that's what happens it sounds cold but it's the truth.
But yes rest in peace to them.
No, they died because of the oppression from skinny people, stop sharing misinformation.
That’s so sad!
Do you know their name? I haven’t seen anything about it yet.
My friend Eric died this past Saturday morning. He was over 400 lbs and needed a cane to walk. He was 44 years old. He had gotten an infection from a sore on the back of his leg that he didn’t notice/couldn’t see until it got really bad. That infection turned into sepsis. He was in the hospital for three weeks. He beat the sepsis, and got to go home. The very next morning, he died from a sudden and massive heart attack trying to sit up in bed. In front of his mother. His body may have recovered from the infection, but his heart was already straining to support such a large body for an extended amount of time that it couldn’t handle the excess stress and stopped working. Maybe his heart was what finally ended up giving out-but it was his WEIGHT that caused that to happen. If he had been at a healthier body weight, he’d be with us. He was only 44. The people I see in this movement look to be in their 20s, maybe early 30s. They don’t realize how quickly their obesity is going to catch up to them. And it’s so fucking sad.
I'm so sorry for your loss. You are completely correct. It is so upsetting to see overweight and unhealthy young people turn well-meaning concern into dramatic "oppression" as if wanting them around is somehow wrong of us.
Sorry for your loss, thank you for sharing 💓🌸
I’m so very sorry for your loss. I do thank you for coming forward with the story of your friend and what is attributed to his early passing. More folks need to come forward with the stories of loved ones who have passed as a result of obesity and the medical conditions there in. It may not click with all of them, but if our loved ones stories can save even one person then they will not have passed without leaving a wider mark on the world.
I lost my sister at the age of 28/29 a few years back. She was like your friend an obese(I believe close to 400lbs if I recall), she also had medical issues previously to her weight gain while others were the result of her excessive weight or exacerbated by the extra weight. She also sadly didn’t have the best medical coverage(had a laps period between one jobs coverage ended and the new jobs coverage kicked in) that resulted in her needing to ration her meds… however as much as her needing to ration her meds irks me to this day, I know that she likely wouldn’t have needed at least a couple meds if she hadn’t been overweight. I know her heart could have handled better had she not been overweight. I miss my sister everyday, and she was working her butt off to better her life and health…it just came too late, and yes some of the things were 100% out of her control at the time(like where she had to live and who she had to live with just as much as the limited places to have any gainful employment in our town), but she was working to try to undo things she did, and choices she knew weren’t in her best interests. She is my best motivator to live my life as healthy as I can(granted I have my own life long health issues and disabilities just like she did), and as authentically unapologetically as I possibly can given the outside forces of which I can’t control(laws, insurance costs, politics, extreme people wishing people like me were/are unalived, ect).
I'd like to think at least bone fat person is going to read this and it will be the final push they need to finally lose the weight. It's too late for your friend, but maybe he can still save someone else. 🫂
I'm sorry for your loss, your family is in my thoughts and prayers. I hope these people can wake up before it's too late.
I commented on a tictok that was comparing fatphobia with Eugenics. I said , "As a person of the Jewish faith I'll say this...show me where the concentration camp for obese people is being built and I'll shut up."
RIGHT! Then they also compare the struggles of Black Americans to the "oppression" of being a fat white cow. How can they say this with a straight face??
I’m genuinely sorry ppl use that kind of language, it’s so insulting
it's honestly so disrespectful how the fat community throws around terms like this. no one is trying to wipe out all fat people. no one. and you'll see able bodied white women talk about living in a 'marginalized body'. Talking about discrimination and then proceeding to describe things lots of people go through. It's so annoying.
I've posted the old saying "no fat people came out of Belson.
To them it's the gym or fat camps
"No one is mad that the ocean is taking up the space it's supposed to (◕ᴗ◕✿)"
No, but the ocean taking up MORE space than it is meant to is a major concern right now. Not a great comparison
I find it rather apt, albeit not in the way she intentioned ☠
I have a hard time believing the creator that said "No one is mad at you because you're skinny." I've seen so many posts, TikToks, etc. from this group that bash people for wanting to be slimmer and calling out "the thins" for fairly benign things like encouraging people to eat healthy and exercise. Seems a lot like the pot calling the kettle black...
Not to mention every single fat person on TT bodychecks...just in the opposite way.
Wonder what the starving ppl in Africa or wherever think about this
@@catsantos353 they’d be thinking, you guys have time to think about body shape and size like this?????
Oh they totally do hate thin people. They usually try to say they dont and/or justify it with their nonsensical monologues about "oppression" and fairy tales about how they're healthy too ... but yeah they definitely hate thin people lol
Every time they say “the thins” I die because I instantly think of Oreo thins😂
The girl who talked about the mountains and redwood trees made me cringe so hard 🥴 like her voice and the way she was talking, trying to sound all poetic and inspirational .... big cringe
BIG CRINGE MY GOD
Lmao imagine her trying to say that shit to your face. 😂
The lil cringe laugh 😂
if she was "body neutral" like she says everyone should be she wouldnt demonize skinny people posting before and after pics
everytime I hear somebody say "fat phobia" is a social justice issue I'm reminded that nobody has ever been assaulted or murdered just for being fat and I get so heated
I feel like some kids might've, in school. Perhaps not murdered.
@@frazlaz what was your point. Just genuinely
THIS!! bigger people act like they have it so hard
they don't
I'm pretty sure if you're hit by a car your weight will not be blamed for your death, but examples like heart attack, stroke and literally thousands of others can be linked to it even if you don't see it directly
Ah we could find a way lol, maybe a a skinnier person would be able to dodge a car better, they wouldn’t be on the road because they could fit on the pavement, maybe if a fit person was hit, they wouldn’t have died, but when the fat person hit the ground, the moment caused the sheer weight of the fat to crush their organs!
But yeah you’re right, obesity causes your body to try and fight itself, leaving it open to every other disease.
Ok so there's this lifetime movie I watched when I was a teenager called "A Secret Between Friends" and these two girls have anorexia and one of them gets hit by a car and at the hospital the doctor is explaining to the family that it wasn't necessarily the accident that killed her but the fact that her heart wasn't strong enough to pull through so it is possible
Yeah my mother-in-law has the same mentality she doesn't want her death to be from obesity even though that's likely going to be the cause. SMH
@@jessiestarts6947 That's a movie, and Lifetime. I wouldn't count it as a valid point in the real world but I do understand what you're trying to say. There's a difference between what kills you, and what you could have done to be stronger to live through it. If she dies from a car accident, a doctor isn't going to label obesity or anorexia as cause of death unless they died in the car before the crash.
Her weight will be bllamed for the car's death, though.
I love how they all use vocal frying to sound more serious and “right”
I notice that too. It’s like nails on a chalkboard to me
Ikr. For me they actualy sound more superficial and stupid witht the vocal fry 🙈 especially as a non American. I have only every heared the Kardashians talk like that Nd annoying girls in movies
What’s vocal frying
@@jackogracko its hard to explain but I'll give examples. Raven from teen titans has it. Julia fox does too. I would look up on youtube for a better explain
I have vocal fry and it’s subconscious, I think a very small portion of people with vocal fry try and have it on purpose cause that’s just how I talk😭💀
I'm disabled, and im also fat.
I have never once experienced "thin privilege" despite the fact that I was thin for the first 28 years of my life.
I've also never experienced any sort of "oppression" for being fat.
I've never been treated differently for being fat, or thin.
I have been treated differently because my disabilities are "invisible illnesses" and people will either doubt im disabled, or make fun of me for being disabled and not being able to do a lot of things the way someone able bodied would.
Invisible illness sufferers unite! 😂
That's so sad.😔😔😔😔 I'm sorry people acted like that towards you.
@@berniceboshoff1503 we should make a handshake🤣
Someone once told me after she lost a very large amount of weight, that one of the things she was so confused by was her belly visibly being bigger after she ate. She found it distressing because she thought it wasn't normal, or meant she was overeating. Seeing posts like this helped her realise it was normal.
While that’s great for her, these posts are dangerous, they promote an eating disorder. It’s like Pro Ana content and jsut as alarming. I’m some who has severe bloating(I literally look a couple of months pregnant) and while it can be something that causes insecurity, you must start to learn to accept and ignore it. I’m glad your friend is getting healthier tho and is now in a better place
@@_TSC_46 how is that at all similar to pro ana content what
@@_TSC_46 and how do you expect people to accept and ignore it if nobody is normalizing it specifically like in those videos?????
@@temp_unknown by not glorifying it. The reason I said it was similar to pro Ana content was due to the harm it does by promoting an eating disorder. I think body positivity is great, it’s helped me in many ways! But the way many of these creators abuse and misuse this movement is what is harmful
You could talk to, yknow, a physician?.. if you have any concerns about your body, you should always just talk to a physician.
Edit:
I just realised, does it actually cost money for you guys to just speak to a physician?.. I never even thought of that.. that’s my privilege showing through. I forget that literally nowhere else on earth has the freedoms and advantages that we Europeans take for granted.
If someone is obese and wishes to donate their body, that is very generous. However, no medical student or any student working on dissections would ever want to work on an obese cadaver. We've had to work on multiple body types in the Cadaver Lab and a cadaver that is just overweight is horrible to work with, let alone an obese one. We have cut off all of the fat for us to see the cutaneous muscles. And don't get me started on visceral fat. For students, that may mean hours of extra work, trying to be careful that we don't destroy what we're looking for. We have very limited time to work on cadavers with other classes we have, so having an actual obese cadaver is the equivalent of giving a med student extra several hours of tedious prep work that doesn't account for any grade or credit. Every lab.
Yes! Awful 😩
Hearing this makes me glad I'm not becoming a medical examiner like I originally wanted to...
Yeah and why even are people sad because students don't dissect their body after death, that's not oppression 😭😭
I was just thinking this, I’m a biologist so I didn’t have to carve up any humans thankfully, but when she said cadavers my size, all I thought was ‘you made someone have to trim off your fat’ (translated directly haha), which as you said, all this extra work for no reason.
Also if you donate your body to science, sorry to say that any thing weird you have on your body, they just cut it open and scare all the 1st years lol
I've seen videos of that online. It looks very labor-intensive! If I'm not mistaken, autopsies can already be very demanding since you have to break bones and cut through stuff to get to other stuff and adding extra weight takes more out of the people working with the cadaver. Plus, doesn't human body fat sometimes not work properly with embalming fluids or preservatives? I might be confusing that with something else, but I heard something about that being a problem too.
"Your thin body is already normal" they mean "desired". This whole thing is a desperate attempt to opt IN to the culture of visibility/male gaze etc. The irony that the same objecfication they crave is what makes "normal thins" have their own body issues is completely lost on them.
Expansiveness?! Ugh. That woman was so so hardcore cringe. I saw my brains because my eyes went all the way back.
What's this thin privilege I keep hearing about? Is there discount codes at participating stores I don't know about? I've been "thin" for a while and would like to start cashing in on my thin privilege.
You never heard of Thin Privilege Tuesdays?
I'm completely out of the loop
I think thin privilege is just being able to fit in things at this point cause that’s all they talk about. They can’t find clothes, they can’t fit in chairs or airport seats, seatbelts don’t fit them, they have to walk sideways through doors. I think that’s the “thin privilege” they speak of.
Well according to these people its going into your car and being able to buckle your seatbelt around yourself. I did it earlier. Pretty lame. Honestly I want a Thin Privilege refund.
I did that when I was obese lol. That didn't change :P
"you're not a subject to eugenics if you're thin"
me, a Jew: 😑
Me: has a genetic disability 😑
Like seriously, if you are obese, you have a really high risk pregnancy normally. If you need IVF and are thin, you are heavily monitored, because it’s likely to be higher risk.
I’m autistic, and in the us it’s legal for group homes to use a cattle prod on me.
Get out of here with that gigantic victim complex.
She really compared herself to a mountain or ocean in regards to “naturally taking up space.” Fkn Christ! The mental health crisis is worse than we thought.
As someone with autism and PTSD, I regrettably have to agree. First it was the Tumblr romanticization, now its the delusional activists. I'm actually getting quite sick of these nutjobs, and this is coming from someone who, 9 years ago, was in a psychiatric hospital as I had a psychotic depression as a result of my PTSD. Hell, looking back, even my delusions weren't as grand-scale like imagining the entire world is oppressing me, demonizing the vast majority of the planet and claiming various established facts were wrong.
(I thought God was spying on me through mirrors and broadcasting my misery and trauma as a TV show in heaven if anyone is wondering what I thought in my delulu-days).
@@peggyderr9208 well damn! 😩
"I'm no longer the funny friend!"
You were never funny.
people love to talk about things privilege but never talk about the privilege of affording enough food to be obese or having a sedentary lifestyle or even being healthy enough to eat by mouth [I have gastroparesis]
much less spend all day complaining about their suffering on multiple social media platforms from expensive personal devices..
Obese privilege is having enough money to be able to constantly shovel food into your mouth.
what gets me is talking about the privlidge skinny people have to shop anywhere like...shopping for clothing regularly at all isn't a privlidge. fat people aren't walking around in rags. having access the 'cute' clothes that skinny people do is not a human right but some of them really act like it is.
@@unoriginal_name4576 right? plus the whole "lack of brick and mortar" store thing they always say is odd too. they have clothes for you and you're mad its all online? I get shopping online can be hard but you can't say "we have nowhere to buy clothes" and ignore the many websites where you can buy plus sized clothing online
They’ll bring up people living in food deserts and junk food being the cheapest meal when on minimum wage. Doesn’t matter if they can actually afford to eat better, or might even save money by not binging everyday. Obesity is a class issue and so totally out of their control.
To the girl that’s excited about the vaccine, does she believe that skinny people can’t have asthma? Because I currently weigh 115 pounds and I have had asthma since I was a child. What kind of bubble is she living in?
The dirty bubble, as featured on SpongeBob is my best guess.
110lbs. Same. Right this second I have a mask on and inhaling medication because I can't breathe. Because of a cold 😭
The fact that she was excited that her risk factors qualified her for early txt with the vaccine and then proceeded to openly mock thin people because I guess it made her happy they could possibly die from COVID before getting the vaccine due to their "thin privilege"? TF?? And then said this fact somehow negated her label of being "only the fat friend"? Made no sense whatsoever and just served to reveal how much she actually dislikes her own friends simply because they're thinner than her. Sad. And mean.
@@Rachel-vh3qs she comes off like someone who has a very bitter outlet on life altogether, and I think she’s trying to use body positivity to hide the fact that in reality she’s actually very insecure about herself in the way that she looks.
I too have had asthma sense childhood(age 8 after a very bad allergy attack), and I weigh around 135lbs right now… asthma can happen to anyone for a pretty decent range of reasons, and yes weight can be one but it’s not the only cause that some one can develop asthma.
“No one’s mad that you’re thin.”
Also this woman the previous video:
“Suck it skinnies!”
To the woman in the first clip: My voice on social media is currently busy talking about things like climate change and the destruction of my area that will greatly impact human health…but no she’s right, I should switch to talking about “thin privilege”
I want to know where this "fat people can't donate their bodies to science" thing came from. I know that isn't true, although perhaps they're not wanted in the same numbers as regular sized bodies. But the obesity autopsy documentary on CZcams and Netflix specifically used a fat woman who had donated her body to science.
It "may" come from the fact that there are universities that only take cadavers with certain requirements for teaching purposes. This doesn't mean that no researchers take obese bodies, just that for teaching purposes it would be easier not to have to deal with excessive adipose tissue. That being said, instructors would likely want their students to have a chance with a variety of body sizes, but not when you first learn.
(and side note, they will also reject certain cadavers that suffered from diseases while alive, again you want an idea of "normal" before you start seeing the abnormal)
Didn't they get really mad at that documentary for being fatphobic?
Yeah, came into the comments to say this. It's as verifiably false as their claim of "LiTtEraLLy ZeRo FaT pEopLe GeT hEaLtH cOvErAgE!!"
There’s some truth to it. I’ve heard of bodies being rejected because of the logistics involved in shipping them.
Also… bariatric research wants fat cadavers, I’d think.
I might be a little high but does the sky take up space? Lol
The body checking one 💀💀 hunty really didn't bother to google any of the words she said huh
i find it annoying when they say how thin people cant post their thin body. like if you dont like the post- maybe it wasnt for you? if you want to see plus size content, then go watch that. if you want thin content, then go follow that. i think fatphobia can be bad but thinphobia is also a harmful thing. fighting fire with fire is not going to help
Like literally if you don't like a certain account on social media just block them!!!! Its extremely easy idk why people find it to be such a hard task! ( sorry for any spelling mistakes English isn't my first language:)
Yeah!! I dont like super gory violent movie scenes, so I either dont watch movies that I know have a lot of those types of scenes, or if I'm watching a movie/show and something like that comes up on the screen, I skip forward or i close my eyes and play on my phone til whoever I'm with says that it's over. I dont go off saying these kinds of movies need to be stopped lol I just do my best to navigate around it
Exactly, it’s so very very easy to cater to your own interests without getting all bent out of shape over people producing or enjoying other forms of content that you have personal issues with. Like for example, I really don’t like romance books or movies as I in my personal experience have found many I’ve read or watched to be poorly written and in the extreme examples harmful to those more impressionable individuals who have been restricted/sheltered from being educated on particular subjects… So what do I do, I avoid those movies and books with the insanely rare examples that are well written and not over the top. Like wise there’s plenty of types of music I don’t like too, again I just don’t listen to those… literally anything I don’t particularly care for can be avoided, minimized, blocked, ect with no loss to myself, no harm done to others, and no whining….
It would seem to me that, at least this is the impression they are giving me, is that misery loves company… they are sad, miserable, ect for whatever their list of reasons are(real or perceived) so they feel the need or simply just want to make others feel the same pain they do. Now this is absolutely NOT an excuse for the behaviors but it’s a potential explanation as to why they are the way they are.
That said I do believe that many of these folks if not all of them would greatly benefit from therapy, because as some one with mental health conditions myself it’s clear to me there’s loads of unresolved issues. Though on the other side of the coin, they have to first admit they have issues they need help with before anyone can really do anything to help them…all a very tragically sad cycle.
I saw this on Twitter/tiktok and if i remember correctly, someone post video of herself and she is skinny or has really nice body and people demand tw over that. Because they claim her body trigger their ED.
@@luvvybunny4065 because no one wants to take personal accountability for anything anymore. Everything is everyone elses fault.
With Abby you get the sense that she was probably bullied and rejected a lot and TiKTok is her lashing out for that
These have to be the same people that went off on me, a disabled obese person, for using a body positive hashtag, because "it's not for me"
I literally got introduced to the body positivity community by my dr, because I have surgeries all the time so my belly is covered in scars, and my bellybutton is nothing but scars, and it makes me hate my body because it's a constant reminder that my body hates me.
But yeah, body positivity definitely isn't for disabled people, or obese people I guess? Even though they said I'm skinny, I'm definitely not🤣
I understand the struggles you're going through, it's so annoying
@@sseymour26 oh man, I'm sorry. I hope youre doing good. ❤️🩹❤️🩹
@@AKbaby89 thank you, I'm doing good and I hope you are too 💙
@@sseymour26 I'm planning my 11th surgery, but I have a lot of hope that this one will help for a while. I'd love to be able to work again, but I don't want to get my hopes up either.
I'm glad you're doing alright, I know I really struggle sometimes and get really hard on myself, and I know that's pretty common. Sending you all the good vibes and extra spoons❤️❤️
@@AKbaby89 hope your surgery goes well ❤❤
shawty rlly compared herself to a mountain, but mountains are naturally big. the human body isn't meant to have 100lbs+ on it. she's so dense.
lmfao
mountains also dont experience health issues such as sleep apnea and joint/back pain
Mountains don’t have knees
@cztianaki2689 They have laps and shoulders, why not knees?
I figured out something that I found weird. When fat activists are refering to thin people, they are refering to us as a group, or a community, almost like an ethnic group. Because they, themselves, take their fatness as an identity they make our thinness our identity. Personally I have never considered my weight as an identity, or something that defined me, and the fact that they are doing it for me makes me very uncomfortable.
For a lot of people who who are trying to recover from disordered relationships with their bodies and food, seeing videos of slim, seemingly “perfect” influencers and fitness instructors showing themselves before and after a meal CAN be very helpful. Sometimes, young women need to be reminded that it’s normal for the body to expand after a meal. I can ALSO see how these videos can be triggering to people are really insecure about their weight. But it’s the responsibility of any insecure or disordered person to know their triggers and deal with them in a healthy way. Thin women existing on the internet isn’t “body checking”.
It helped me A LOT when I was a young teen, it really opened my eyes
Bragging about being morbidly obese and having asthma is a whole other level for these people. 😂
if anyone were to compare any fat person to being “as big as a mountain” I KNOW they’d have something to say about that
Well, yeah. That's how it works. I can call myself ugly but if someone else does it, I'd be really upset.
re: car belts, that's a woman issues, as far as I can tell, not just fat people. Crash tests and stuff like that are made on male (?) mannequins, so cars are built around the average male body. There are lots of issues the fat acceptance people talk about that affect all women, not just fat women, and doing so it just pitch us against each other, and that's a shame :/
Especially when they attack skinny women for bringing up those issues. Fat activists seem to have an eat their own mentality. The reason body positivity isn't making any social change is because they're trying to hard to gatekeep everyone that they've forgotten to do any activism that isn't whining online.
@@Raya-ir4tm it's a women's issue because women are much more likely to die if they get in a car crash than men due to all the safety measures being built for and tested on male bodies. and seatbelts often mutilate women's chests because they're not made to accomodate breast tissue.
@@Raya-ir4tm I didn't say it's only bad for women. You can read about it, I personally read "Invisible Women: Data bias in a world made for me" :) anyway, thank you for attacking me! Have a great day.
@@Raya-ir4tm "I'm a woman and this never happened to me" good for you!! It doesn't mean it couldn't be a problem for others. Maybe next time don't accuse strangers of making stuff up.
Hi. Car belts are also small people issues. Car belts Always cut into my neck. If i crash i would get chocked
"Suck it, skinnies!"
lol I was vaccinated mid last year but go off, sis.
#badflexbutOK
this i am thin i was vaccinated early last year.
“I got the vax first specifically because I’m fat and unhealthy!” Is really not the flex she thinks it is 😂
Instead of mountains and oceans that take up space, why doesn't she use elephants, whales, hippo's etc who take up a lot of space?
probably because mountain and ocean sound more poetic
@@Sonmmmxuan OMG I love your name!
I don’t like the “you are perfect” stuff. It’s totally healthy and normal to admit you have problems and there are shitty qualities about you. Don’t justify your problems, work on making a change. Making a real effort and trying, even if you fail, is still better than justifying ur problems and accepting them as “okay” or even “great”.
YES 👏👏👏
lol why be perfect when you can chase progress too
This whole fat acceptance movement is just so ridiculous...
Im hollering at 'the taking up space, like mountains' part
your reasoning is so incredible that i find myself paraphrasing your points when arguing with HAES/BOPO(💀💀) activists on edtwt🤭🏃🏾♀️🏃🏾♀️
omg same
@@idc1738 omg twinning😍💅
The medicine thing that she said its wrong. Every country manufactures their medication according to the average weight of the population. Which, in the US I imagine is faar heavier than other countries. For example, I lived in Japan, if you ask any westerner there, their medication never worked on us. Why? Because their meds are calculated for the weight and height of the general population. Wth. All you have to do is up the dose .
Yeah and this is routinely done, ask any pharmacist. People who claim otherwise are idiots.
Well, the oceanlevels are rising and this IS a problem. So...
They complain about body checking but are they not the same people who come on the internet in crop tops flaunting their stomach? Why is everything ok when they do it but a problem for everyone else
No, I'm not wasting my breath and speaking up for your terrible choices in life. Eat fewer calories and walk more. Your fatness isn't my problem.
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Nobody gave me any privilege. I am working my ass off to be the size I am.
9:47 this lady actually makes a very clear point unintentionally when she says she wants 'body neutrality'. She doesn't want skinny people praised, or fat people judged. She wants everybody aka fat women treated....like skinny women....so they don't feel less and inferior. She might say 'the same' but it's really about wanting to ALSO be on that beauty pedestal. Which is ultimately what it comes down to with these women. They want 'skinny privilege' but to also be fat/unattractive. So they make up 95%+ false narratives why they are the same, and you're the bad guy for not treating them that way. But if a guy dated a 'average' sized woman and not her, saying it's because she doesn't have the same interests or that he likes her personality as much, she wouldn't likely internally accept that, and part of her would insist - unless he could prove some other way he was attracted to fat women as well - that it was because she's fat. Their ultimate problem is they feel like life - literally or figuratively - bullies them for existing. 'Hot' guys don't want them, exercise is hard, they can't go on theme park rides, their life is smaller, and gets smaller the more weight they gain etc. Because they don't want to view it as a consequence (or changeable) and just get on with it, they call it 'thin privilege', to say they are denied what other people have inherently, and it's not fair. SO they think it's fair game to look down on skinnier women and bully them for existing - at least online where none of them would beat them up. But idk, i think these women are a special breed, just like your average incel. I think they underestimate just how some excess weight could/would put a man off, but also to paraphrase the comedian Rodney Rude: 'I'd rather be with a fat woman that's fun then a fucking bitch'.
And a lot of these militant fat women definitely seem to be in the bitter bitch category.
I'm a cancer survivor. I can't donate blood or my body. I don't feel very oppressed, though.
Well done and right on. My Mom recently passed in the midst of radiation therapy and chemotherapy but they still accepted her corneas fwiw. Here's to your continued health!
@@muirgirl I've had cancer twice. I've gone through 4 courses of intravenous and one round oral chemo. I've done radiation and had 11 procedures. I was an organ donor. Now they don't want any of it. I'm so sorry for your loss.
@@MSANTHR0P3 twice?? Im sorry you went through that two times. Hopefully you’ll be good in the future. Stay strong:)
@@ccharmolypi I actually just got rediagnosed, but thank you for your thoughts.
Those videos where people post themselves before and after they’re eating are actually really helpful in ED recovery. Being reminded that bodies change throughout the day is reassuring
And not just your stomach! Did you know your feet can swell up an entire size throughout the day? It's why you should never shop for shoes in the early morning.
@@thaliacrafts407 I had no idea!
Oh my god, its hard to respond to the mountains/red woods video without saying anything mean lol
What planet is she on, comparing herself to a mountain, ocean and sky? Also if poverty was the cause of obesity, the poorest people in the world would be obese, oh wait the poorest people of the world don't have access to McDonald's, KFC, Burger King and so on
11:30 exactly!! I don't want to be neutral about my body! I love my body. I know that my mind is the most important thing, and I think about that when I don't feel good about my body, but I can feel about it how *I want*, not how some rando on the internet wants me to think about it. The way they think they have a right to dictate people's opinions is so narcissistic!
The woman from the tiktok completely misrepresented what body neutrality is truly about
It makes me very angry they're trying to take over another movement
For me body neutrality places the foucus on the function of my body and not as much how it looks
Example: I don't like how my legs look, I have some cellulite and the proportions look off to me
But I can't change that, so I learn to accept and love my legs because they allow me to run and be active and go places, so it doesn't really matter how they look
Body neutrality will mean different things for every person, and it's not for everyone but I personally love it a lot because it's helped my appreciate my body and not worry about how I look so much
@@starchild8822 Ah I see! Thanks for explaining--that makes more sense than the other explanations.
5:15 her voice is grating to my nerves and her viewpoint is depressing. She is trying to justify getting larger and larger...wow.
Did… Did she just compare herself to a mountain/ocean? 🌊⛰Honey, those things are supposed to take up space, they’re a part of nature. YOU, being 300-500 pounds, are not supposed to take up that much space. Make it make sense. 😑
not relevant to the content, but the first lady running that industrial strength NASA level skin smoothing filter jfc
Let’s be honest, I’ve probably put on 5lbs this month just being lazy because I’ve worked so much this month and sitting at my desk doesn’t burn many calories. The 5lbs isn’t the fault of my work, it’s because I was lazy. I’ll burn this off as I always do, because I make a CHOICE to do what I need to. They just never decide to undo the bad choices. They just consistently keep making them.
posting a photo or video of you before and after eating i think is very helpful. a lot of thin people are terrified to eat due to the way they look when digesting.
The take of this people is becoming wild with each video. They want to defy any basic science and even common sense. I'm glad I have never been part of this cult.
I was thinking that too, they're literally ignoring actual science and then making dumb shit up and calling it science. Its disturbing to see
They speak in tongues they really do
I have a normal BMI and I can’t participate in drug trials. I have depression and anxiety.
i hate how some FA’s will call everything bodychecking like, i have an eating disorder, and i body check obsessively whenever i can because i’m so anxious about my appearance. someone just posting a video of themselves just existing is not the same thing as body checking, at all.
I find so much catharsis in your videos. I used to weigh over 110kgs at a pretty young age, and my weight loss journey was really turbulent, but I really felt so much better about myself since I’ve changed my lifestyle and reached my target weight goals. It really wasn’t easy and I felt leagues better when I started to feel good looking in my own body; so to see so much apprehension regarding weight loss in the FA community makes me feel kinda weird. I really like your content and you’ve honestly become one of my comfort youtubers as of late :,)) tysm¡
God forbid They meet people born premature
Is that thin privilege
We do question how much space trees and other aspects of nature takes up
Have they ever heard of real estate or lumberjack’s
or tunnels under mountains...or bridges?
shhh civil engineering and physics aren't real
Can 100% say that medical students have definitely studied cadavers of their size due to the morbidity rate associated with being morbidly obese
if anything theres more of a demand these days given the state of the nations size... what a messy argument.
@@muirgirl I’m not from the US but it shocks me whenever I have to covert IS sizes to my countries sizes because the US size is 2x bigger
So a US size 12 is a UK size 16
@@chameleon28 Yeah its wild.
You can’t come at these people with facts or logic. Never works.
No medication makes someone gain weight.
There are medications that will make someone more hungry(or less hungry) and make it so its a lot easier to gain weight, but to my knowledge there is no medication that the medication alone makes someone gain weight.
I'm obese because I lived off of Häagen-Dazs for way too long and wasn't moving my body at all.
I'm literally disabled, and ive lost over 50lbs so far.
There is no excuse for being fat. What someone eats, and how much they move, is what weight is dependant on. Period.
As far as I'm aware cortisone can cause massive weight gain, but doctors are meant to advise you about it and you change up your diet while on it to maintain your weight. People that maintain a healthy weight will gain a fair amount while on cortisone if they don't adjust accordingly, and it can be really difficult to drop. Luckily it's not something people are put on forever, and the goal is to eventually have the person come off of it and then adjust again.
But I do completely agree, a person's weight is their responsibility. If they refuse to take care of their body and blame it on external factors, then they're just wrong.
I was in recovery for anorexia last year and also have bpd so they gave me 3 meds that have weight gain as a side effect , I gained 15kg but of course bc I was eating all day, they already changed my meds and now I’m back to a healthy weight.
These people try to blame their meds or medical conditions for gaining 200 kg 🙄
Depends what you mean by "weight." Some meds absolutely will cause your body to retain water which does indeed add 'weight' in acute contexts but I agree that people who claim that 'they cause weight gain' but actually mean 'they cause you to develop excessive adiposity' are full of it.
@@berniceboshoff1503 good to know, I wasn't aware of that one. Thanks for the info!
Speaking of Body Positivity, as a whole: offer an interview with the two slim white women who founded the non-profit org, The Body Positive, back in 1996! The FA/HAES cult, at least as of the last time I checked (maybe yesterday) scrubbed any mention of the org from the History section of the Body Positivity Wikipedia article.
We don’t question the size of mountains or the river bc they have a symbiotic relationship with the rest of nature. They’re also not sentient so.
lol but we do study and question their sizes all the time.. literally the entire Department of the Interior exists to do just that.. these people are clearly not biologists or food producers
@@muirgirl yes, but not in the way she’s framing it. We know she’s trying to justify human overconsumption lol
4:30 Ma'am... you are not a mountain, redwood tree, or an ocean. And people absolutely question the space these things take up. There are fields of study dedicated to understanding things like an ocean's expansiveness and a mountain's size. It's called science.
And (not saying it is always right) people regularly drain lakes and tear down trees and put holes in mountains... because they need the space that those things take up lmao XD
saying being fat is fine because of mountains is a new dumb point lol
“No one hates skinny people “ I’m pretty sure they do.
Love waking up to a Funtie Times video!
I fail to see how the starving folks in Africa or wherever have any part in this
@@Raya-ir4tm almost like our systems somehow exploit developed & developing countries whether it’s by overconsumption or deprivation 🧐
Wait....I just learned that I can't give my body to science 😤 i'm 104 lbs, and BMI 17...whatever I'll still donate my organs, I hope ! And yeah it's not oppression..wth
4:25 I thought she was talking about trees and stuff that is living not flipping oceans and mountains. I can't believe she is comparing herself to mountains 😂
It's ok to not have a perfect body...you can have rolls and cellulite and all, that's natural. Not everybody has a perfect, photoshopped, Instagram model body. It's ok to eat fast food every once in a while, and eat the food you enjoy without feeling guilty about every bite. But fat ACTVISM? Pushing people to be fat? Pushing people who are literally dying and suffering from medical issues (or people will most likely develop them in the future) to remain in an unhealthy lifestyle? That's not right, and it's not really helping anybody in the long run.
Fatphobia is a social justice issue? Since when?
since it made their POV a crusade. Crusades always turn out well for humanity. /s
@@Raya-ir4tm it has nothing to do with being "leftist." It has to do with stupidity. & we all know how much stupidity the right has.
0:16 she also casually said something about KIDS being taken away due to obesity? wtf
consequences of neglecting ur child = fatphobia
One of our biggest concerns today is literally the issue that the ocean may soon take up a lot more space than it currently does and how we are going to handle all the consequences of that. While there may be some exceptions depending on definitions and such there are more or less no instances in nature where something growing far beyond what is normal is good.
And hippos and elephants and rhinos and horses people weren't made to weigh the same or more than a horse it's not healthy or fun it's hard
laughing so hard at the one video about mountains and stuff. The land or mountains and other stuff have a purpose for the rest of society. Fat bodies are only serving ourselves(me a fat woman) and it's more hindering us than helping us.
YAY! A FUNTIE UPLOAD!the twisted logic of these people is fascinating but I can't handle it without your accompanying fact corrections! Thanks 💕
They really seem to struggle with the difference between a direct cause (I'm obese because I consume too many calories) and an underlying cause (I consume too many calories due to poor sleep, anxiety and stress eating, less than optimal food selection, and struggling with food prep, all of which stem largely from my autism). And yeah, treating or mitigating the underlying cause is a valuable part of weight management. But only because it *reduces the calories I consume*. There's nothing wrong with a holistic approach to weight management, but just burying your head in the sand and getting fatter and fatter until you die a premature death after a lifetime of sickness is less than optimal.
I am 5 feet - both the seatbelt and airbags are more dangerous to me . I am going to start height acceptance movement and even though all heights are welcome, I will state the tall people oppress me🤷♂️
I don't see alot of death certificates for work, but I have seen plenty over the years. I've NEVER seen weight as a cause of death. It's always listed as the specific health event.
These people man. Can you imagine being so very privileged and protected by society that you can eat to your hearts content, can use a slave labour built phone to order Starbucks to your home. THEN say your obesity is EUGENICS, fucking eugenics.
As a Cancer Research nurse, I have exactly 1 study with weight parameters. (BMI can’t be too low or high). This is because it is a medical food study for metastatic pancreatic cancer. (It’s cool thing, they have discovered cancer cells feed on certain amino acids so these foods do not have them. It’s sort of starving the cancer.)
Other than that, all healthy/mostly healthy adults are welcome. I have more lab requirements than weight ones.
4:39 *"no she isn't about to compare herself to a mountain or a tree or some such-"*
*jesus effin christ I am so done this girl is so insecure about her weight that she's literally saying I'm big like the ocean and that's okay*
Yay! Was waiting for a new upload!
skinny ppl posting bloat before and after eating has exptionally helped my EDd mind remind itself i should not feel stressed out by the way eating makes my stomach will look and remind myself im okay and ill be fine
5:20
I dunno, if you are 5 feet tall (152.4cm) then I don't think you should be near or above 200 pounds.
Agreed! I'm 5'0" and the thought of weighing 200 pounds is insane. Not because I think it's morally wrong, but because of how much pain my body would suffer with all that extra weight.
@@Star2Be5394 I'm 5'5 and at my heaviest I was 256 when I was 16, (I think) sure at the time I thought I was perfectly fine even though I was out of breath going up and down stairs, and I couldn't run to save my life.
After a long time of being okay with being so heavy I started to lose weight last year, I was 230 at the start of 2021, and now I'm down to 165. Sure I could be down a lot more, but I enjoy junk food. But it takes hard work, and the ability to realize that I care about myself enough to actually take care of myself.
Yeah- that would be morbidly obese.
@@someguythatblinks Congratulations on your progress! I wish you all the luck on achieving your goals.
I'm also 4' 12" & know for a fact I'd be absolutely _miserable_ being that weight omg. I've been almost 150 & loathed it.
so happy you posted love you funtie !!
It really annoys me, all the gate keeping people in the fat acceptance group do regarding what is and isn't body positive, and trying to say who is and isn't allowed in the movement. It irks me to no end because they claim to be so accepting but then they're mean and nasty to people who aren't like them for no reason.