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  • čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
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  • @ShreyaDash-er3dg
    @ShreyaDash-er3dg Před 5 dny +14596

    "Carington, that guy that just got back from jail on the psych ward is currently moving in with them-" The way there's no context 😭-

    • @in_alwaysstays2689
      @in_alwaysstays2689 Před 5 dny +1477

      It's just about the audio he made from tiktok
      The
      "Darlinggg guess who's back from jailll"

    • @starlightt222
      @starlightt222 Před 5 dny +666

      @@in_alwaysstays2689 yeah its just funny that’s there’s no context LMAO

    • @cozidylan
      @cozidylan Před 5 dny +512

      he made some pov tiktok’s that blew up where he was like “play this audio if you’re in a bad situation to seem like you have a crazy bf” and he would say like i’m back from jail, i just got out of the psych ward in this really deep growly (but funny) voice

    • @in_alwaysstays2689
      @in_alwaysstays2689 Před 5 dny +1

      @@starlightt222 it took me like 20mins to realize (I went on Instagram and heard the audio and remembered it was Carrington)

    • @Layyyylaaaa
      @Layyyylaaaa Před 5 dny +41

      I GASP3D JF WAS SO FUNNY

  • @tcmbri2904
    @tcmbri2904 Před 5 dny +8326

    Danny Gonzalez is my favorite online couple as well

  • @OfFieldsAndMeadows
    @OfFieldsAndMeadows Před 5 dny +4404

    I don’t hate Tara and she isn’t a pick me girl but her dad has been the CEO of several companies dating back to 2007. She did not grow up poor and that’s a strange thing to lie about for the sake of relatability. It’s ok to grow up privileged just don’t be ignorant about it.

    • @ryleek4213
      @ryleek4213 Před 5 dny +637

      Its giving Shane Dawson being appalled at the existence of knock off brand cereal when his whole personality for YEARS was that he grew up “poor” 😭

    • @kamiiu
      @kamiiu Před 4 dny +11

      facts

    • @house-ec1ws
      @house-ec1ws Před 3 dny

      That's so dumb wtf is wrong with her

    • @SamAshton-zh5yf
      @SamAshton-zh5yf Před 3 dny +57

      No she became rich after but befor they were not she said that the first time she went to beach vacation when she turns 18

    • @nuhaajabbar
      @nuhaajabbar Před 3 dny +203

      Being the ceo of a company doesn’t mean immidiate riches. There are bills to be paid. A life of payments and hard work. I believe her

  • @bailee912
    @bailee912 Před 5 dny +4056

    A 24yo dating an 18yo? Gross. A 24yo dating an 18yo they knew as a CHILD? Foul.

    • @ieatteeth5605
      @ieatteeth5605 Před 5 dny

      EXACTLY

    • @Choosetoone
      @Choosetoone Před 5 dny +169

      Nothing wrong with an 18 dating a 24. They are both adults. However it sounded like they were a thing before hand and said they were dating when she turned 18. Convenient. But yeah, adults can date whoever.

    • @ieatteeth5605
      @ieatteeth5605 Před 5 dny

      @@Choosetoone sure an 18 year old is legally an adult but they aren't mentally, I mean its literally eighTEEN

    • @g4ydor445
      @g4ydor445 Před 5 dny +564

      @@Choosetoone 18 is barely a legal adult, there's no switch that flips as soon as you hit 18. There's so much maturity difference and life experience in those years

    • @Choosetoone
      @Choosetoone Před 5 dny +34

      @@g4ydor445 not to 24 dude. legal adult is a legal adult, thats the parametre, some people are more expierenced with life and mature at 16 then some 28 year olds, we go by legal. i mean most places for consent in america is 16 and adult 18. we go by legal because everones opinion is subjective. there is not a grand difference from 18 to early 20s usually.

  • @artisseriechicken
    @artisseriechicken Před 5 dny +3509

    Zach calling Tara a pdf file's dream after he dated a girl he met when she was 14 is crazy 🤢
    Also I'm glad I'm not the only one that finds him insufferable.
    EDIT: y'all I'm not making any assumptions, I'm allowed to think the whole situation is tasteless, grow up.

    • @shireenfathieh7430
      @shireenfathieh7430 Před 4 dny +194

      The call is coming from inside the house!! I personally never found his humor funny, especially the things he says at the expense of women.

    • @siren7561
      @siren7561 Před 4 dny +59

      Pdf file I'm def using that now on😭

    • @mortisiasantos
      @mortisiasantos Před 3 dny

      That's why I said to myself that he's like Drake he's going to be the new certified pedophile just like Drake. Although Drake is into like little kids like 6 year olds and 7 year olds while Zach is into 14 year olds to like 17 year olds or probably 13 year olds who knows.

    • @Experiencedfaliure101
      @Experiencedfaliure101 Před 3 dny +13

      It is not pdf that he dated some one when she was 18 and he was 24. An illegal age gap is off 12 years apart the age gap was 6 years apart. There’s no problem with him knowing her since she was 14 that just means that they’ve known each other for a while. It’s not like she was 14 and he was 20 when they started dating

    • @abby9448
      @abby9448 Před 3 dny +72

      @@Experiencedfaliure101No ones saying its illegal, but its really odd

  • @madalynd0
    @madalynd0 Před 5 dny +4057

    honestly the whole bryan stars johnnie gilbert thing deserves its own video💀

    • @sarhahillsburg5142
      @sarhahillsburg5142 Před 5 dny +296

      😅 it really does. That was a MESS. Teenage me was gobsmacked. Especially once found out Brian's age like ewww what is he doing

    • @fancyfool8431
      @fancyfool8431 Před 5 dny +135

      There are a lot of videos about that on yt I think Johnnie himself even made one

    • @sg62503
      @sg62503 Před 5 dny +68

      yes!! especially if you go into my digital escape as a whole

    • @Darcy-rd5em
      @Darcy-rd5em Před 5 dny +56

      MDE was a fever dream

    • @luminabumina
      @luminabumina Před 4 dny +6

      ​@@Darcy-rd5em beyond mind blowing fr

  • @beomgyulover911
    @beomgyulover911 Před 5 dny +3605

    I don't think Tara Yummy is generally a BAD person but she does choose herself to hang out with weird people and she does infantlize herself because of her height which is WEIRD considering her audience is mainly minors, Hope this helps!

    • @sukisukidaisuki7752
      @sukisukidaisuki7752 Před 5 dny +53

      Wait I agree that it's weird she infantalizes herself but how does her audience being minors it make it worse?? /gen

    • @SamsieSims0204
      @SamsieSims0204 Před 5 dny +302

      @@sukisukidaisuki7752mainly bc it is showing her younger audience that, that behavior is okay but she does other things as well as hate on other girls and I feel bad for her at times bc she does not stand up for herself when Zack makes pedo jokes about her which goes back to her younger audience thinking this is okay

    • @sukisukidaisuki7752
      @sukisukidaisuki7752 Před 5 dny +10

      @@SamsieSims0204 ahhh okay thx!

    • @lc-do5eo
      @lc-do5eo Před 5 dny +178

      Who you hang out defines who you are in my opinion

    • @SamsieSims0204
      @SamsieSims0204 Před 5 dny +123

      @@lc-do5eo same, like not saying she awful but if you can’t see your friends mistakes and blindly support them then your just as bad as them

  • @aureategirl1094
    @aureategirl1094 Před 5 dny +5806

    Thinking you can’t be poor living in LA just shows a massive lack of knowledge on that city as a whole

    • @okkelly6207
      @okkelly6207 Před 5 dny +15

      doesn’t it have low property/ land costs?

    • @sunleo6161
      @sunleo6161 Před 5 dny

      @@okkelly6207noo

    • @aureategirl1094
      @aureategirl1094 Před 5 dny +310

      @@okkelly6207 apartments/homes in LA cost above the average price of apartments/homes across America, and people are getting paid less in LA to top it off

    • @n.j.4953
      @n.j.4953 Před 5 dny +187

      Well technically it’s really hard to be poor living in LA but relative to the city it’s easy to be poor.
      Such as you have to make 110k to live comfortably in LA today. That is rich. But relative to LA thats middle class, get what I mean?
      Anyways no hate, have a good day ❤

    • @solar-dm3pv
      @solar-dm3pv Před 5 dny +22

      @DapperRat-d4w Right! that's something she constantly lies about...

  • @bootsthehaus271
    @bootsthehaus271 Před 5 dny +3715

    the only yt couples that last are either "one has a normal job and rarely appears in videos" or "they kept the relationship secret-ish until it was serious and even then its still private and never the primary force of content" theres for sure something that creates a good couple within understanding the barriers needed between love and work

    • @ravefritz2037
      @ravefritz2037 Před 5 dny +198

      Idk look at SmallishBeans and LDShadowLady, not a secret relationship, not a secret marriage and they are doing good, so K guess it depends on the couple

    • @CelestialBug
      @CelestialBug Před 5 dny +227

      @@ravefritz2037 I think part of it is also their content and fan base. If your content is personal enough that viewers can easily establish a parasocial relationship, they'll overstep boundaries, especially if you feature your relationship a lot in videos. Lizzie and Joel don't talk about their personal lives that often, or not nearly enough for viewers to feel entitled to knowing about their relationship.

    • @emilybrock6816
      @emilybrock6816 Před 5 dny +100

      lierally shayne and courtney from smosh. they kept that secret for almost a decade.

    • @MN-ys2pe
      @MN-ys2pe Před 5 dny +143

      A great example is Stephanie Soo and her husband because they’re private enough that we don’t know his face but he’s always in the background of videos and you can tell they truly love each other. Safiya and Tylar are also a great example of content creator and supportive significant other that helps in videos

    • @MN-ys2pe
      @MN-ys2pe Před 5 dny +15

      @@emilybrock6816SHAYNE AND COURTNEY ARE DATING??

  • @theoneandonlyintrovert8874
    @theoneandonlyintrovert8874 Před 5 dny +3268

    My thing with Johnnie and his hate is so many people say that Johnnie is whinny and all he does is complain which is kinda crazy to me because Johnnie’s content Is about being open about his mental health

    • @Scaryspider555
      @Scaryspider555 Před 5 dny +575

      And the bullying, he literally gets hate for being to “needy” when the dude has a history of mental illnesses and trauma, the poor dude doesn’t deserve that

    • @Colbys.emohair
      @Colbys.emohair Před 5 dny +189

      Same because people also have been complaining about how he makes those “whiny” videos but then say that he’s so much more depressed now (which is not true) even though he doesn’t even make those videos as much anymore

    • @mshellr
      @mshellr Před 5 dny +139

      no fr, I’ve also seen people calling him a poser??? and I can’t tell if its a joke…

    • @Scaryspider555
      @Scaryspider555 Před 5 dny +59

      @@mshellr lemme guess it’s a bunch of teens saying that?

    • @kaylarose3786
      @kaylarose3786 Před 5 dny +75

      bro I swear, it really do be the ppl who spend their own time nonstop complaining who say this shit tho. like he is living his own life, YALL R THE ONES COMPLAINING LOL

  • @shi9561
    @shi9561 Před 5 dny +3186

    here's my personal take i started watching tara when she went viral i liked her and i don't think she's a horrible person or wtv but the people she surrounds herself with are absolutely HORRIBLE! especially zach... in conclusion the people who you surround/befriend are also a reflection of you and who knows what her persona is irl🤷‍♀️

    • @shi9561
      @shi9561 Před 5 dny +206

      i do not hate her i still watch her occasionally but i can't stand her being friends with people like zach

    • @michellereedus9148
      @michellereedus9148 Před 5 dny +28

      And people see a character someone portrays online as a horrible person of they don't like them, and can't comprehend they don't know these people in person

    • @shi9561
      @shi9561 Před 5 dny

      @@michellereedus9148 did you even read what I said looool

    • @shi9561
      @shi9561 Před 5 dny

      @@michellereedus9148 so ur telling me zach purposely portays being a horrible person online💀 THAT DOES NOT HELP HIS CASE

    • @shi9561
      @shi9561 Před 5 dny +149

      ​@@michellereedus9148ur a supporter of her who doesn't understand constructive criticism so shh

  • @hhellebore
    @hhellebore Před 5 dny +3686

    20:59 this is exactly what I've wanted to express about age gap relationships - some people act as if a switch is flipped when a person hits 18, and that it immediately dissolves all the boundaries built into dating anyone even a day younger. That 25-year-old is still half your age, Leo, and it's STILL CREEPY

    • @SofiaAgnew
      @SofiaAgnew Před 5 dny +80

      Yess like for example in my country the age of consent is 15, and that’s the only cut off so as soon as you turn that age you can LEGALLY be with anyone but then morality also comes into play and it’s disgusting and shocking that some people just don’t have that moral compass

    • @AmeliaCelestina
      @AmeliaCelestina Před 5 dny +66

      Exactly no 24 or 25 year old has any business in dating an 18/19 year old. Being friends is way different than a romantic relationship. Friendships with age gaps are perfectly fine its normal but relationships with age gaps are a no no and its way different.

    • @-_-NannO_-
      @-_-NannO_- Před 5 dny +29

      Yeah some age gaps are acceptable however. I don't see a problem with 18 and 20 or 18 and 22 but anything over that becomes overkill area.
      25 and 32 are more acceptable than 18 and 25. Feel like there's nuances tbh.

    • @-_-NannO_-
      @-_-NannO_- Před 5 dny +10

      @DapperRat-d4w Yeah, no, I'm aware. Their relationship was morally horrible and ethically questionable, Zach's and Indiana's for sure was not it. I primarily meant 18 yos meeting someone as 18 who are like 2-4 years older like 20 or 22. Or someone 25 being with someone 32 is different, often more acceptable than someone 18 being with someone 25. Because of maturity levels and whatnot. There's just nuance to it rather than "all age gaps are bad"

    • @Seraphina93
      @Seraphina93 Před 5 dny

      Leo and Tobey just.. ew
      Why?

  • @nestlesubliminals
    @nestlesubliminals Před 5 dny +4048

    oh I'm going to eat this up I just know

  • @k1kitty_
    @k1kitty_ Před 5 dny +2955

    my gripe with the "tara yummy theme song" is that it is yummy by ayesha erotica, and tara has put ayesha's lyrics on merch and other things when it doesn't belong to her. i'm guessing most people who hear that song assume it's tara's when its not, and ayesha barely gets recognised or paid for her music despite so much of her discography going viral every few weeks. she doesn't even earn money from it as other people try to reupload and copyright her music constantly. idk id just feel upset if my song was known as someone elses theme song, and they were profiting from it while i was getting nothing for it
    her other song was a feature in 6arelyhuman's remix of faster n harder and tbh i thought her lyrics were lazy and quite uninspired. part of them were taking from 6arely's existing lyrics, and her flow was verrry similar to ayesha's (particularly in "for the girls") and her verse was only 30 seconds

    • @Laura-xh4yr
      @Laura-xh4yr Před 5 dny +299

      But we all (or most people) know it's Ayesha Erotica, its just "Tara's song" because of her username and the fact that she loves Ayesha's music. They even met and were partying together. Also the remix with 6arelyhuman was just for fun I heard because thats her music taste and they know each other, so I wouldn't take these bits so seriously 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @k1kitty_
      @k1kitty_ Před 5 dny +224

      @@Laura-xh4yr you’d be surprised how many people don’t know the artist, or assume it’s tara’s because it’s so often called the tara yummy song. as much as i wish everyone knew who ayesha is and she got recognised for all her music, people don’t really know who she is

    • @meowgif
      @meowgif Před 5 dny +117

      @@k1kitty_ i mean yeah, but it's mostly because tiktok is full of brainrot kids who don't have the capacity to lift a finger and type the name of the song and get to know who made it lol, i think this is not the biggest issue with tara, and the fact that she met ayesha and partied with her adds to that

    • @fettygirlny
      @fettygirlny Před 5 dny

      well isn't ayesha a racist? why should we care lol

    • @bribri3738
      @bribri3738 Před 5 dny +63

      for the first part, tara and ayesha have hung out so she probably has permission from ayesha to have it as her "theme song" and to put it on merch, but i get what youre saying. for the second part, she def focused on making it catchy, which made it just lazy overall

  • @oliviagriffith6916
    @oliviagriffith6916 Před 5 dny +593

    I'm 24, and I wouldn't even entertain the idea of having a relationship with an 18 year old.

    • @armin2changs
      @armin2changs Před 4 dny +44

      I'm 26 and they're practically babies in my mind 😅

    • @akanatural986
      @akanatural986 Před 4 dny +1

      ​@@armin2changsbut there not tho your just older and that don't mean I ok being a pedo I'm just saying I hate when ppl who are 26 or 28 trying to call ppl like us babies 😒 clown behavior fr🤡

    • @sarahlilley4178
      @sarahlilley4178 Před 4 dny +19

      she was 18 and he was 20 when they started dating, not 24

    • @meganmadara4083
      @meganmadara4083 Před 4 dny

      ​@@sarahlilley4178 she was born in 2002 and he was born in 1995. he was 24

    • @deadcuerpo
      @deadcuerpo Před 4 dny

      @@sarahlilley4178not talking about jake and tara

  • @metwithsilence
    @metwithsilence Před 5 dny +1511

    i met johnnie at warped tour in 2014 and he was genuinely very nice. i actually met him twice, once at the meet and greet and the second time at the end of the day i was walking to the parking lot and saw him walking inside the venue through a fence (it was an outdoor venue idk its hard to explain) me and my friend called out to him but he didnt hear us and we were like :( and then like two minutes later he walked up like "i thought i heard you guys try to say hi but i wasnt sure so i came to say hi just in case" it was very nice of him . i know hundredsss of teenage girls met him on warped tour that summer lol. i havent followed him since then but i rlly hope hes doing well ! also love ur vids, the way you speak is so easy to listen to like i understand every word u say u speak so fluidly like yes im listening! tell me more!

    • @ritalovv
      @ritalovv Před 5 dny +80

      wait that's so sweet!! and as someone who has recently been following him( since 2018, dk if it still counts as recent), he's been doing kind of well, ever since he got more popular **again** on TikTok this time, he's also been getting more hate, so its been kinda hard for him to deal with it!

    • @globalgeode4363
      @globalgeode4363 Před 5 dny +29

      i got to very briefly meet him at warped tour one summer, he signed my braclet that they handed out cause it was cloth and i went on my happy way cause a sleeping with sirens set was about to start. being that it was a massive crowd and i was about 13 i always thought it was really nice that he took even just that moment cause im sure he got that alllllllll day and i felt bad disturbing his day.

    • @ritalovv
      @ritalovv Před 4 dny

      @@globalgeode4363 hes a really nice guy in my opinion, doesn't deserve any of the hate he gets, I have never met him irl but have interacted online with him multiple times

    • @kamiiu
      @kamiiu Před 4 dny +3

      awww that's so cute

    • @beeepbooopp
      @beeepbooopp Před 3 dny +7

      i also met him in 2014 at Warped Tour!! he just seemed very shy and reserved, but super sweet and took the time to let me take photos with him :)

  • @rad33antRose
    @rad33antRose Před 5 dny +1078

    it’s bad to be in your mid 20s and dating an 18-year-old but personally I feel like what makes it worse it is you knew this kid since they were 14 and then as soon as they turn 18, that’s when you start dating them it just makes it weird

    • @Choosetoone
      @Choosetoone Před 5 dny +17

      If you are 18 you are an adult. That's fine to date whoever. But the before thing is strange.

    • @LivPC
      @LivPC Před 4 dny +126

      Not only knew them as a 14yo, but also LIVED AT THEIR HOUSE at the time and became part of the family. That makes the situation 100x weirder to me, ngl

    • @RosieForever
      @RosieForever Před 4 dny +69

      @@Choosetoonebro what r u yapping abt. Why would a fvcking 24 be involved with something who just graduated high school romantically? That’s very concerning and just because it’s technically “legal” doesn’t mean it’s ok and it’s gross to even defend that

    • @Choosetoone
      @Choosetoone Před 4 dny +12

      @@RosieForever both adults dawg. that difference is not insane. most would not but it is fine. gross would be 13, 15 or some shit. most people know the difference but it is legal for a reason. what are you yapping about? people are made adults at 18 for a reason, also 16 is the school leaving age here. it is what it is. you have an issue with adults making decisions like adults do speak to the government to raise the adult age to 20 or something. don't talk to me about it.

    • @RosieForever
      @RosieForever Před 4 dny +47

      @@Choosetoone do u even hear yourself? Like I literally said just bc it’s legal doesn’t make it ok, the girl in the video literally explain why something such as someone in their mid 20s hooking up with someone who literally just graduated high school shouldn’t be normal. Like is it that hard to understand why that’s very concerning? When u turn 18, you don’t automatically think like an adult just because u turn the legal age. That’s literally why it’s concerning for a grown ass adult to be romantically involved with pretty much someone who still has a mindset of a minor. That’s what’s leads power imbalance that be very dangerous for the 18 year old. It’s just wild of how ur literally defending this shit when it’s not that hard to understand why it’s bad. In simple terms, it doesn’t make sense for someone who has pretty much no experience with being an “legal” adult getting together with someone who already had many years of being one and why would any normal 24 year old want to be in a relationship like that where they will have to wait years before the person can legally drink and will be closer to their 30s when the other person finally becomes 21

  • @Sloaneel
    @Sloaneel Před 5 dny +369

    Johnnie not being known by my digital escape is making me feel old😭

    • @_alysia
      @_alysia Před 4 dny +24

      I used to know him (not on a personal level) a little bit before my digital escape was formed and when bryan stars used to only be known for interviewing emo and metalcore bands that would play for warped tour. 💀

    • @kiarasargisson9064
      @kiarasargisson9064 Před 4 dny

      Literally same 🤣

    • @dylanjperri
      @dylanjperri Před 3 dny

      ME TOO

    • @Violet-bw3wn
      @Violet-bw3wn Před 3 dny

      ​@_alysia omg yesss I had honestly forgotten, I was always randomly seeing his videos since Bryan, I didn't watch it, it's only one day I gave in and I actually enjoy their videos so much??? It was such a weird surreal feeling because I thought Johnnie was the one that interviewed celebs and warped from my teen memory lmaoo

    • @firlgriend
      @firlgriend Před dnem

      I'm 18 and he was the only one I knew out of Tara/Jake/Johnnie cause of that lolll 😭

  • @ellieelizabeth
    @ellieelizabeth Před 5 dny +940

    seeing johnnie in youtuber drama like this is WILD bc he’ll always be lil emo youtuber johnnie to me. i was a ginormous my digital escape fan and was there for that whole thing so seeing all this is like *woah*

  • @i_332
    @i_332 Před 5 dny +971

    the murderabilia thing is crazy😭

    • @natileamace7138
      @natileamace7138 Před 5 dny +55

      Not hating, not even in the slightest but murderabilia isn't as weird or "crazy" as people make it seem. People interested in it are more into the true crime/serial killer part. Yes some people are kinda weird and idealize these horrible people but most don't. You know? Maybe you don't. 😅

    • @hearsae
      @hearsae Před 5 dny +265

      @@natileamace7138 I understand being fascinated in true crime (I've been interested in it for 10+ years) but collecting "souvenirs" from people who took lives is just disgusting. Can you imagine how you would feel if someone close to you was murdered and people were collecting memorabilia from the killer/selling it for large sums of money? It's in such poor taste imo.

    • @sleeperzz
      @sleeperzz Před 5 dny

      ​@@hearsae WAIT Tara did that or someone else

    • @hearsae
      @hearsae Před 5 dny +20

      @@sleeperzz Jake did

    • @neuro__
      @neuro__ Před 5 dny +39

      yeah and he was even contacting a serial killer called Nico Claux (aka the Vampire of France) at that time 😭 it was rlly wild

  • @aaishanadeem4331
    @aaishanadeem4331 Před 4 dny +121

    "The guy who got out of JAIL and PSYCHE WARD" like girl what 😭😭😭

  • @iwouldgiveyouthemoon_
    @iwouldgiveyouthemoon_ Před 5 dny +272

    that danny gonzalez anecdote was so funny lmao.

  • @winter_wolf3284
    @winter_wolf3284 Před 5 dny +468

    21:04 finally someone said it. Like 18 year olds are still teenagers and there’s barely a maturity difference between a 18 y/o and 17 y/o. The truth is if the age of consent were lower the people in their mid 20s, 30s+ that go after 18 y/os would take advantage of that and go after people even younger. This is true in europe where you have 24 y/o dating 16 y/o for example

    • @jhvhnbmnbb
      @jhvhnbmnbb Před 5 dny +4

      16 is a post pubescent person tho. Once ur a girl in ur late teens you are fully done with puberty. 16/19 is a young adult. However ppl who go lower than that are weird. I live in a european country where it's 14 and most people still never do these things bcs most ppl are not monsters and lots of them are aware that it is immoral. I would also agree immediately that early teens is still a kid. But early and late teens are not the same. There is a huge difference between a 16 yr old and a 13 yr old, or between a 17 yr old and a 14 yr old. Ppl make it seem like it's all the same just bcs it technically has teen in its name, when we all know there is a difference between a pubescent vs post pubescent young person

    • @Enriquez2222
      @Enriquez2222 Před 4 dny +50

      @@jhvhnbmnbbthere’s an even bigger difference between myself a 24 year old and an 18 year old…. Like truly wtf would I have in common with a teenager?

    • @1hcc994
      @1hcc994 Před 4 dny +30

      @@jhvhnbmnbbThe body maybe mature but the mind is not our brains aren’t fully mature till around 24-26. The fact that Zack was pretty much a full grown adult and wanting to date someone so young especially one who he lived with when she was 14 Is weird af.

    • @jhvhnbmnbb
      @jhvhnbmnbb Před 4 dny +3

      @@1hcc994 that is some bs. Not everybody wasted being a young adult on stupid choices. It is possible to act like a young adult in ur late teens and early 20s. 16/23 is a young adult

    • @Enriquez2222
      @Enriquez2222 Před 4 dny +29

      @@jhvhnbmnbb just say you’re a predator because 8 years makes a very big difference when your brain is developing. A 16 year old can never compare to me, you’re weird

  • @oikawascursedplushie9912
    @oikawascursedplushie9912 Před 5 dny +1042

    finally I'm gonna get my fix on this drama from a reputable source. hands off the wheel, listening to your words intently. 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

  • @harpertzou9047
    @harpertzou9047 Před 5 dny +757

    I don’t really know things until you explain them

    • @5oh6up
      @5oh6up Před 5 dny +55

      something about the wording in this comment just the most perfect thing ive seen all day

    • @z_bennet4208
      @z_bennet4208 Před 5 dny +4

      @@5oh6upi knew someone would make that comment

    • @user-gg3os5dj5g
      @user-gg3os5dj5g Před 5 dny +10

      I didn’t even know who Tara yummy was until now 😂

    • @5oh6up
      @5oh6up Před 5 dny

      @@z_bennet4208 psychic

    • @kieseley
      @kieseley Před 5 dny

      User @harpertzou9047 has uncovered the concept of learning 🙌

  • @mikkat8613
    @mikkat8613 Před 5 dny +306

    My ex wife met me when I was 18 and she was 28.. when I finally broke it off she tried to say that I manipulated and abused her like she didn’t lie to me about multiple things that I expressed was important, ignored and disregarded my safety when it came to her comfort or her straight up not thinking about it, and her pressuring me to do certain things and when I didn’t she panicked that I wanted to leave her for a man to the point where a therapist had to tell her multiple times like I did that it was probably my medication and dysphoria. Can’t even recognize her as someone I use to love after the things she said to me.
    Funnily enough, she inadvertently admitted multiple times that she thought of me as a child while making fun of me “trying to be grown” for wanting to divorce her lmao. I’m 22 years old. I left home at 18 and had to help her pay off her debt, get a drivers license, look for an apartment, get a credit card, and start saving money in an account 😭 I was her damn mother at that point.
    All this to say. Enjoy your 20s. Don’t date people who could have been your college aged baby sitter, 8/10 times they’re secretly weird af. Also don’t ignore the red flags.

    • @lc-do5eo
      @lc-do5eo Před 5 dny +8

      Agreed!

    • @IreneSilva
      @IreneSilva Před 3 dny +2

      thank you for sharing this! 🙏🏼 100% agree

    • @kona3881
      @kona3881 Před 3 dny +3

      bahaha gonna start using “are you old enough to have been their baby sitter”

    • @ttigbybtm
      @ttigbybtm Před 2 dny

      That is rough and sad. I hope you're doing well now.

  • @Urbreez
    @Urbreez Před 3 dny +146

    i’d like to point out that jake has mentioned he’s diagnosed with autism. a lot of people on the spectrum have hyper fixations on certain topics or objects and those hyper fixations can change rather frequently which is probably why he seemed to be uninterested in that stuff out of nowhere.

  • @rreennaad
    @rreennaad Před 5 dny +215

    Dating someone that you knew since they were a child ( and had sibling like relationship with them) is soo wrong and creepy even if you did not gr00med them initially

    • @Narine7326
      @Narine7326 Před 3 dny +4

      @@Vinebo_m shes 23 turning 24 this yr

    • @erinleigh2808
      @erinleigh2808 Před 2 dny +1

      @@Vinebo_mthey’re talking about zack and Indianas relationship.

    • @Vinebo_m
      @Vinebo_m Před 2 dny

      @@erinleigh2808 OHHHSNSN HELP MB

    • @Leida098
      @Leida098 Před 2 dny

      Bro, u just wanted to hate. She's turning 24.

  • @johnnie-kb1bn
    @johnnie-kb1bn Před 5 dny +1247

    This is how fair "criticism" is. Not like that one girl who claims not to care about them but is in a subreddit full of people who dislike Tara, and made multiple videos on them.
    Hypocrisy at its finest

    • @whatisgoingonbffr
      @whatisgoingonbffr Před 5 dny +310

      she is so unfunny too calling them names, while saying THEIR sense of humor is bad. Like girl.

    • @Scarlettjsyyy
      @Scarlettjsyyy Před 5 dny +401

      @@whatisgoingonbffr omg is that the vid where she started calling tara tarayucky and teriyaki😭

    • @whatisgoingonbffr
      @whatisgoingonbffr Před 5 dny +187

      @@Scarlettjsyyy Yes. so unfunny and disrespectful lol

    • @bitterOrangish
      @bitterOrangish Před 5 dny +311

      No, because you lose all credibility when you admit you're part of a snark reddit. That's such loser behaviour.

    • @Ilovebrushingmyhorse
      @Ilovebrushingmyhorse Před 5 dny +3

      @@bitterOrangish like go do something else with your life like is it that difficult to do something better than hating on some pretty girl

  • @frankiehero
    @frankiehero Před 5 dny +483

    @motleyangell this is how you make a tarayummy critique video

    • @mwon1673
      @mwon1673 Před 5 dny +71

      ATE

    • @mwon1673
      @mwon1673 Před 5 dny +203

      she was literally so biased and only made the video already hating them and then goes on to say that she doesn't even care about their existence when she is literally a part of a subreddit hating on them and made multiple videos just pointing out what she dislikes about them.
      Such a hypocrite

    • @buttersaltedpopcorn
      @buttersaltedpopcorn Před 5 dny +206

      nah bc she had some fair points points but her hatred for tara just completely overtook the video and the tara yucky thing was just so juvenile

    • @buttersaltedpopcorn
      @buttersaltedpopcorn Před 5 dny +11

      also nana pfps hiii

    • @hihelloitsanne
      @hihelloitsanne Před 5 dny +80

      ​@@buttersaltedpopcorn yess, I can so easily overlook the "fair points" she made because I knew it was only coming from a place of hatred and that's just straight up not fair.

  • @alxxhades
    @alxxhades Před 3 dny +66

    Fun fact: Tara already apologized for the tweet she made when she was TWELVE (if I remember correctly she apologized in 2020 but i could be wrong) Plus yall gotta remember it was the early 2000s and she was in middle school, everyone was making diabolical jokes. And she could have picked the term up from the situation she was growing up in. Stop hating on Tara for a tweet she made when she was twelve which is extremely young, grow up. (I don’t mean to hate Amanda, I’m saying this for the people who do flame Tara for this)

    • @6arelyDisciple
      @6arelyDisciple Před 2 dny +2

      I'm still a teenager, but tbh she should've known better. It's been like 12 years ago so I kind of excuse her and especially after she apologized

    • @chloifiedd
      @chloifiedd Před 2 dny

      someone said she was 15 when she tweeted it

    • @alxxhades
      @alxxhades Před dnem +3

      @@chloifiedd they were lying she was twelve

    • @owlstarot
      @owlstarot Před dnem +12

      @@6arelyDisciple bro shut up, when youre 12 you are a child and make mistakes. get over it

    • @margielaaa
      @margielaaa Před dnem +2

      @@owlstarotwhat fucking 12 y/o tweets that ☠️☠️

  • @zahirahdavis2573
    @zahirahdavis2573 Před 3 dny +23

    Saying that rape is a joke and dark humor is very insensitive

    • @discodisk5479
      @discodisk5479 Před dnem +1

      True though.. especially on Zach's part, it feels like it should be excused

  • @Peetabreadz
    @Peetabreadz Před 5 dny +463

    the fact that she is still friends with people who support isnotreal does it for me

    • @okkelly6207
      @okkelly6207 Před 5 dny +5

      who

    • @sarakhan-pk7ko
      @sarakhan-pk7ko Před 5 dny +18

      can u name who need to unfollow just in case

    • @Dont_at_me
      @Dont_at_me Před 5 dny +10

      @@sarakhan-pk7koyeah please say who supports isnotreal

    • @spoiledddbrattt
      @spoiledddbrattt Před 5 dny +2

      Who is it bestie!!!

    • @Peetabreadz
      @Peetabreadz Před 5 dny +6

      @@sarakhan-pk7ko are fans that she had went in vacation with she didn’t say there names nor showed them since most of them aren’t influencers but she stays in contact with them still

  • @Aa1iyx
    @Aa1iyx Před 5 dny +113

    The idea that exes can’t be friends is so interesting to me. Me and my ex boyfriend broke up after a 3 year relationship and it’s been 3 years since and we are still friends 😭 we only broke up cause we didn’t want to same future. Truly for the best cause I just came out as a lesbian a few months ago 💀

    • @nafeesanaz
      @nafeesanaz Před 2 dny +5

      Your experience is an exception to the rule. Typically, attempting a friendship with an ex that you were long term with and when the break up is so fresh, typically doesn’t work.

    • @Aa1iyx
      @Aa1iyx Před dnem

      @@nafeesanaz we took about a month break from each other before talking again

  • @CooleoGal
    @CooleoGal Před 5 dny +406

    this whole video seems very unbiased compared to the video i’m imagining you’re responding too. i appreciate these videos a lot as i don’t know much about these people and it’s nice to stay up to date in the influencer world. keep up the good work

    • @Colbys.emohair
      @Colbys.emohair Před 5 dny +90

      Do you mean the motley angel video? Because I detected some STRONG bias in that video

    • @Patty-sp9yz
      @Patty-sp9yz Před 5 dny +86

      ​@@Colbys.emohairyeah that video made some strong points but I didn't like how she kept calling them names feel a bit hostile

    • @wavzone
      @wavzone Před 5 dny +41

      RIGHT... This video is much better and a lot more constructive.

    • @saetvrn
      @saetvrn Před 5 dny +49

      @@Patty-sp9yzagreed like even if she had a point on something (not frequently tho) the point wouldn’t stand immediately when she calls her “tara yucky” or wtv 💀 like i’m not a fan of her but it’s like she’s taking her personally.

    • @Colbys.emohair
      @Colbys.emohair Před 5 dny +23

      @@saetvrn yea she’s acting like tarayummy is the worst person in the world when she’s obviously not

  • @YukiLeiu
    @YukiLeiu Před 5 dny +104

    Yeah regardless that Zach guy is 1000000000% a groomer. Idgaf if Indiana doesn’t think she was there’s no reason someone who would call someone their sister and knew them consistently from age 14-18. Usually the younger person thinks they’re pursuing the older person and “instigated” it but the adult should ACT LIKE AN ADULT AND SAY NO. As a victim of CSA her story isn’t taking away from others stories. The people who do that are abusers.

    • @glu3dd
      @glu3dd Před 3 dny +6

      yeah they always say theyre not a victim but u literally are its sad

  • @3milianoGarcia
    @3milianoGarcia Před 5 dny +324

    WAIT please do an unnecessarily long recap of 4freakshow im on my knees begging

    • @reaganarndt7544
      @reaganarndt7544 Před 5 dny +11

      THIS IDEA IS IMMACULATE

    • @probablyprin
      @probablyprin Před 5 dny +5

      4freakshow? Can you fill me in please

    • @r4innyd4y91
      @r4innyd4y91 Před 5 dny +24

      @@probablyprinit was this comedy show on zoom in 2020 with hamzah, claire, chase, and haley (i think i fucked up some of the names sorry) , but yeah

    • @lillia.c
      @lillia.c Před 5 dny +3

      PLEASEEEEE

    • @probablyprin
      @probablyprin Před 5 dny +4

      @@r4innyd4y91 wait that actually sounds so cool 😭

  • @georgewashingtonsAR
    @georgewashingtonsAR Před 5 dny +158

    tbh idk where i stand w tara, not like it matters since she has a huge following. No matter what is said or what hate she still is huge. I think she just isn’t self aware of what she does sometimes yk? Which i get but like the clip of her interrupting alyssa who was talking about her depression just to talk abt her party was kinda ewwww. Along w not standing up for herself and other women on the podcast when zack says messed up stuff. And especially when she told Jake to get a T tattoo for her and he was very serious and upset about it. I think the entire group has their bad sides (like every average human). I just hope Tara fixes the ppl she surrounds herself w because it takes women back due to how much they get sexualized. The podcast even has a “theme song” for her abt where she ended up last night which is like…tf?? This group is just messy and exhausting tbh

    • @mayah6846
      @mayah6846 Před 5 dny +14

      LITERALLY THISSSS ^

    • @nameless.artist1513
      @nameless.artist1513 Před 5 dny +18

      In my opinion I don’t think any of the people in this group should’ve gotten to the level of fame they did. If you compare videos from when Tara was 18 to the present (23) you can see a big difference. What I dislike most about fans or haters thoughts is that they specifically made these people famous and then get angry when they realize they are human. In no way do I stand with what they’ve done but the people critizing them are no saints as well. It’s a messy situation and I really believe they let fame get to their heads. As for Zack I really don’t like the way he acts or the vibes he gives off, it’s like he’s putting humor into twisted thoughts

    • @SamAshton-zh5yf
      @SamAshton-zh5yf Před 3 dny +4

      Jake told his fans in last live that he told tara that he will tatto her name because she's gonna be in his life forever and about alyysaa they were filming drunk episode she was drunk they all drunk after she told alyssa that she didn't hear her and how sorry she was alyssa told her i did,t even remember

    • @tinytron
      @tinytron Před 3 dny +5

      @@georgewashingtonsAR it’s fair to not like tara, but people making whole subreddits and videos bashing tara is completely overkill acting as if she’s killed someone. okay maybe she ignored a comment by alyssa, but how does that warrant name calling like “tarayucky” by hundreds of people ? people can dislike tara for her content and personality and keep it to themselves, i don’t think she’s done anything to have mobs bashing her every action. people get way too comfortable bullying online.

    • @georgewashingtonsAR
      @georgewashingtonsAR Před 3 dny

      @@tinytron completely agree. It’s okay not to like someone, people can just block her and her content. I feel bad bc she is a human being and idk what she must feel seeing how far people go with hating her. It’s okay to criticize people, but the things these ppl are doing are not criticisms.

  • @celinay
    @celinay Před 3 dny +29

    Zach calling tara a pdf files dream while making one of his main bits flirting with her is SO WEIRD. Especially with his past relationship being criticized (rightfully so) for the age gap and fact that he knew her as a child... Like, sir, the joke wasn't funny to begin with, but now it's just straight up *alarming*

    • @Enriquez2222
      @Enriquez2222 Před 3 dny +5

      It’s because he is one, so of course she’s his idea of a dream girl

  • @ikigaime3158
    @ikigaime3158 Před 5 dny +380

    my cousins said I reminded them of you and that was such a huge compliment for me. you are my comfort youtuber

  • @wafflefuentez6524
    @wafflefuentez6524 Před 4 dny +46

    I think the only thing I disagree with is the whole "punk/emo aesthetic" Johnnie does label himself as emo in which is fitting for him, his music is in the emo genre and emo is just a subculture abt the music which he is fitting to. However Jake refers to himself as punk and Punk is a political movement, you literally cannot refer yourself as punk if you're not aligned with the subculture bc it IS a political subculture. Not a fashion look

    • @nxm3sis
      @nxm3sis Před 4 dny

      💯

    • @yeahno1796
      @yeahno1796 Před 4 dny +4

      That is true but Jake did say that he finds himself liking the punk aesthetic because of the movement, and the style came along with it.

    • @Vinebo_m
      @Vinebo_m Před 3 dny +5

      yeah.. Jake also owns a Tesla. 😭

    • @wafflefuentez6524
      @wafflefuentez6524 Před 3 dny

      @@yeahno1796 idk if owning a tesla is punk.. Considering teslas are not environmentally great and Elon musk is a billionaire capitalist..

    • @wafflefuentez6524
      @wafflefuentez6524 Před 3 dny

      @@Vinebo_m my point exactly

  • @simonast.8427
    @simonast.8427 Před 5 dny +120

    Okay so for some context, I remember watching Johnnie around 2016-2017 when he was in MDE. The drama there was crazyy( I recomend going down the rabbit hole). MDE was a collab channel with seven people, 6 of which ware between the ages of 16-19 I think and one grown ass adult Brian Star. He was 26 I think, also can a career interviewing emo bands before MDE.
    So I dunno how much I remember but pretty much I think most of them ware living together in an apartment, I'm pretty sure all the money was going to Brian and he was maybe acting like their manager or something. They had a blow out fight I think , people started leaving and at the end it was Brian, Johnny and his then gf Alex on a couch explaining everything. At some point Brian locked everyone out of the yt channel and tried rebranding it with a different group of teens , and the og mde tried making a change on their own but it didn't last long( I think it was just growing up and having different goals). Also fun fact Johnnie was being shipped with one of the other boys named kyle( their ship name was kohnnie) so he's been on the queer baiting grind since day onee. Yeah 2016 emo youtube was fucking crackk.

    • @jaithon7254
      @jaithon7254 Před 5 dny +17

      Johnnie made a whole video on Bryan but took it down I believe. Luckily one of the old members Shannon has her reaction still up and shared her experience

    • @simonast.8427
      @simonast.8427 Před 5 dny +7

      @@jaithon7254 yess I'm pretty sure I remember all of them posting "responses" it was wilddd

    • @darklydread
      @darklydread Před 5 dny +45

      i think its weird to use the phrase "queer baiting" to refer to real life people tbh especially when johnnie and jake have said theyre straight so what are they baiting

    • @nubbylittlecat1753
      @nubbylittlecat1753 Před 5 dny +20

      @@darklydreadLiterally. That word gets thrown around way too much.

    • @simonast.8427
      @simonast.8427 Před 5 dny +2

      @@darklydread honestly just used it as a short way to express influencer who panders to his young female audience by having romantic/intimate behavior with another man even tho it's public they are strait. Dunno what you call that , because yeah maybe it's not queer baiting but it's something for suree. That happened wait too much not to have a specific phrase 🤣

  • @Olivia-fm7rh
    @Olivia-fm7rh Před 5 dny +105

    I cannot believe that you don’t know who my digital escape are. What went down in that group was absolutely wild.

    • @juliajohnstone1264
      @juliajohnstone1264 Před 5 dny +6

      I should NOT have been watching MDE at my young age back in like 2016ish lmao

    • @zandikhetwayo7444
      @zandikhetwayo7444 Před 3 dny +3

      Spill

    • @xkrxmpus1642
      @xkrxmpus1642 Před 3 dny

      @@zandikhetwayo7444just a lot of grooming, cheating, financial abuse, pedophilia, and exploitation on bryan stars' part

    • @sm0py437
      @sm0py437 Před 2 dny

      ⁠@@zandikhetwayo7444basically the guy who decided to make MDE (Bryan Star) made interview videos of popular band members at warp tour and Johnnie was a HUGE fan of him at the time and underage and Bryan hired him to help him out on stuff from there he basically started to take advantage of Johnnie being young and not knowing anything and formed MDE and forced Johnnie and other members to do stuff they didn’t want to consent to but since they were all really young and Bryan was much older and had a hold of their income they did everything he asked… a lot of the MDE videos are now just sad to watch knowing they were all basically being abused

  • @jonginisholy
    @jonginisholy Před 5 dny +220

    Omg a few weeks ago i came across this video about Tarayummy but the creator of that video just came across as extremely hateful at times that I couldn't finish watching. Like i had no idea who Tarayummy was prior to that video but i did want to know what the tea was so girl I'm glad i stumbled upon this video.

    • @Scaryspider555
      @Scaryspider555 Před 5 dny +95

      You watched the Motley Angel video didn’t you?? I watched it too and it was weird, malicious, and honestly more cringe then Tara’s content which isn’t even that cringy

    • @jonginisholy
      @jonginisholy Před 5 dny +82

      @@Scaryspider555 yess it was their video. Like the moment they started calling her tarayucky and teriyaki or whatever was like weird and ofc I didn't watch the whole thing but from the bit that I did watch, some of the criticism seemed more like hate than actual criticism, so even when the did have valid points, the hatred they had for tara just really undermined it for me.

    • @Scaryspider555
      @Scaryspider555 Před 5 dny +43

      @@jonginisholy yeah, like you can not like someone for whatever petty reason but it to call people names? And their friends names? What the actual hell dude? She’s also a part of a Reddit hate group about Tara, so yeah it’s a Redditor being bitter

    • @Colbys.emohair
      @Colbys.emohair Před 5 dny +15

      Same I saw that video but I couldn’t even get halfway through because it was just genuine hate

    • @HypeGrlie
      @HypeGrlie Před 5 dny +24

      @@Scaryspider555 frrrr i keep seeing that creator's videos pop up on my recommended and I haven't watched a full video yet but all the titles and intros just seem very immature and petty 😭 Like 'Tara Yucky' or 'Johnnie Cringebert and Jake Wobble' cmon now

  • @ugh.brooklyn
    @ugh.brooklyn Před 5 dny +388

    on the part about jake owning things surrounding murder, i believe on a podcast he had said at the time when he made those videos he really had nothing to do with his youtube career and didnt have many ideas for videos. so he bought those items and made videos on them. he took them down once he started to pop off because people were heavily criticizing him on it, saying it was shameful and harmful. i personally didnt have too much of a problem with it, since at the time when i first watched the videos i did think it was a bit messed up, but they were sort of educational and he had explained the history on those items. other than that, this video is amazing! i love watching your videos whenever they pop up on my recommended. glad to see you covered jake, johnnie and tara. and the weird guy, zach justice.

    • @Scaryspider555
      @Scaryspider555 Před 5 dny +68

      I’m glad Jake was able to realize that he shouldn’t have done that and owned up to it

    • @ugh.brooklyn
      @ugh.brooklyn Před 5 dny +36

      @DapperRat-d4wno, im not. i was just giving context (of what i know), since amanda didnt have all the context! and then i added my own personal opinion. nothing harmful.

    • @IlIluvstrawberries
      @IlIluvstrawberries Před 5 dny +5

      @DapperRat-d4ware you? No?

    • @zandikhetwayo7444
      @zandikhetwayo7444 Před 3 dny +3

      It is harmful and messed up and the fact that you can’t realise that is concerning

    • @Vinebo_m
      @Vinebo_m Před 3 dny

      He owned dahmers glasses, didn’t he?

  • @nerdhater74
    @nerdhater74 Před 3 dny +14

    calling the liza koshy era og youtube is WILD

  • @imogenx9145
    @imogenx9145 Před 5 dny +67

    Grooming is such an insidious, complex thing, and if your first relationships are toxic like this, it's hard to know what's normal and what's not. I was groomed and even a decade later, I find myself still making excuses for him and new ways to blame myself for wanting love and attention. I think of it like black mould, you can paint over it and pretend it's all fine but at a certain point it seeps through and you start to realise you've been breathing in all these toxic spores for years. I wouldn't be surprised if, in time, that young woman is able to properly reflect and subtract the blame and shame she feels and place it where it belongs, on the shoulders of the person who was an adult at the time.

  • @namikyt
    @namikyt Před 5 dny +192

    Posted 53 seconds ago ??!? We eating GOOD today 😩

  • @ohjordyn8312
    @ohjordyn8312 Před 5 dny +202

    I personally think Tara is popular bc shes basically an emo Mila Kunis.

  • @blackharvest13
    @blackharvest13 Před 5 dny +41

    Johnny has always been a known person in the alt community, anyone who has been to warped tour has likely seen it met johnny

  • @Gravitee456
    @Gravitee456 Před 5 dny +346

    IN MY OPINION, Tara getting hated on is for the most part not deserved, the argument of her interrupting Alyssa while she was talking about her struggles with depression was during a drunk episode. they had since talked about it on the podcast and neither held ill will. Tara blew up quickly and has been put in the spotlight, it wasn't an easy thing. Tara also recognizes that she can interrupt and tries not to.
    And people who harrassed her for things she did as a little kid are the ones who need to grow up.
    (of course, i do not know her personally but it's just a little grievance of mine
    💗)

    • @idolwhisper
      @idolwhisper Před 5 dny +1

      being drunk does not excuse being an a--hole btw! stop mindlessly defending awful people who couldn't give two flying fcks about you

    • @ryleek4213
      @ryleek4213 Před 5 dny +56

      I don’t watch her but I did see the full clip where Alyssa was being made fun of for her looks and Tara cut in saying “I’ve never been made fun of for the way I look.” Was that a drunk episode? Ik they’re friends and all but that comment was tone deaf and nastyy 😭

    • @Seraphina93
      @Seraphina93 Před 5 dny

      @@idolwhisperinstead of hating on them and this commenter who did nothing to u?

    • @Gravitee456
      @Gravitee456 Před 4 dny +6

      @@ryleek4213 haven’t seen that but damn. Yeah that was tone deaf.

    • @_ohky
      @_ohky Před 3 dny +4

      @@ryleek4213 i think that instance was the one of the only times I felt that tara was wrong

  • @8nia
    @8nia Před 3 dny +21

    This video is so biased towards liking Tara and giving her a pass. You claim to not know them and pop culture but I feel like you’re lying. This video is strange. Intentional? And you talked about them 4 fucking years ago like girl…

    • @rattattat5656
      @rattattat5656 Před 3 dny +7

      What so people can’t talk about other people now? It’s not hard to NOT watch a video. because at this point, you’re just doing it to upset yourself.

    • @solar-dm3pv
      @solar-dm3pv Před 3 dny +2

      @@rattattat5656 Their point refers to the girl talking about "not knowing them"
      however she mentioned them 4 years ago..
      let's use common sense here!
      plus how are you to know what a video entails without watching it? again...
      let's use common sense here!

    • @nnnn-sc2im
      @nnnn-sc2im Před 3 dny +3

      @@solar-dm3pvyou act like 4 years ago isn’t a long time it’s not exactly hard to forget an influencer

    • @rattattat5656
      @rattattat5656 Před dnem +2

      @@solar-dm3pv you talking about common sense is ironic since four years is a long time ago? Do you think she’s gonna remember every person she’s talked about? Please use your head. Also, they took their time to write a comment under a video they didn’t like? Just click off of it. Again not that hard.

    • @zanpkto46
      @zanpkto46 Před dnem +2

      wasn't the 4 years ago comment about zach and indiana, not tara?

  • @thatissoslay
    @thatissoslay Před 5 dny +143

    8:14 i think everyone knows exactly who she is talking about 😭

    • @Kxtie_A
      @Kxtie_A Před 5 dny +74

      Omg is it that motley angel? Who kept calling her tara yucky

    • @thatissoslay
      @thatissoslay Před 5 dny +49

      @@Kxtie_A yesss 😭 she is so disrespectful

    • @Kxtie_A
      @Kxtie_A Před 5 dny +33

      @thatissoslay yeah, she's hella nasty for talking ab someone (who she doesn't even know!!!) like that

    • @kayy_ann
      @kayy_ann Před 5 dny +8

      @@thatissoslay RIGHTTT i saw that too

    • @baseddepartment6606
      @baseddepartment6606 Před 4 dny +13

      ​@@Kxtie_A yeah and calling people names like "tara yucky" and other things she called jake and johnnie thats just super childish 💀 also shes on snark reddit... its pathetic

  • @Moco_bean
    @Moco_bean Před 4 dny +53

    26:20 as an alternative person, labels can matter. Alternative culture is not looks based, it’s about politics and music. Being anti capitalist, anti discrimination, feminist, so on and so forth. You cant be punk/goth and buy fast fashion. You cant be capitalist and punk- which brings be to my point. Jake has an anarchy tattoo and own a tesla, which is a slap in the face for punks, goths, metalheads and alt people in general. To me, Jake and Johnnie kinda use alternative culture (especially Emo and punk) as a costume. They “look” alt, but they aren’t really alt.

    • @xothium
      @xothium Před 4 dny +16

      they dont claim to be, that was her point, you can dress a certain way without labelling yourself

    • @Vinebo_m
      @Vinebo_m Před 3 dny

      Couldn’t have said it better tbh

    • @alpacafish1269
      @alpacafish1269 Před 3 dny +5

      I’m pretty sure Johnnie is emo, has claimed to be so and he appears so since he does make emo music.

    • @xothium
      @xothium Před 2 dny +5

      @@alpacafish1269 i was talking about jake, but johnnie has been in the scene for over a decade now, its clearly not a costume

    • @alpacafish1269
      @alpacafish1269 Před dnem +1

      @@xothium I was replying to the main comment and I know who you were referring to.

  • @g1rld1nner
    @g1rld1nner Před 4 dny +18

    tara yummy used to be a fav, but she sincerely hangs out with some of the worst people

    • @SamAshton-zh5yf
      @SamAshton-zh5yf Před 3 dny +4

      It's been 2 weeks without tara being in the podcast with zach now i hope she cut him off

    • @g1rld1nner
      @g1rld1nner Před 3 dny +1

      @@SamAshton-zh5yf i hope so too. i do indeed like her, but she needs to see how bad of the people she hangs with are.

    • @fake.saf20
      @fake.saf20 Před 3 dny +2

      ​@SamAshton-zh5yf I believe she did, in her recent video she said she's leaving the podcast

  • @Scaryspider555
    @Scaryspider555 Před 5 dny +197

    You have GOT to watch Motley Angles video on Tara, it’s unhinged and not in the fun way in the “wait why is this a problem why are you being mean?” Kind of way

    • @namphuongnguyen8569
      @namphuongnguyen8569 Před 5 dny +64

      She's made two separate videos on Tara just to essentially call her a "pick-me"? Why waste so much time and energy when she could just say she doesn't like Tara and move on lmao

    • @Scaryspider555
      @Scaryspider555 Před 5 dny +59

      @@namphuongnguyen8569 she’s a part of a Reddit hate group about Tara, I think we should abandon all hope for Motley Angel💀

    • @maireadxx
      @maireadxx Před 5 dny +41

      I had the same problem with her videos because I felt like there was no actual substance or allegations in them it just felt mean

    • @Scaryspider555
      @Scaryspider555 Před 5 dny +29

      @@maireadxx she’s a Redditor, of course she acts mean for no reason :edit, I know not all Redditors are mean I’m sorry if I offended anyone

    • @namphuongnguyen8569
      @namphuongnguyen8569 Před 5 dny +9

      @@Scaryspider555 nooo we’re not all mean please don’t lump us together 😭

  • @tr-wf6ub
    @tr-wf6ub Před 5 dny +39

    i’m not engulfed in tara yummy’s content and her fandom and found her through tiktok like everyone else but i will say that she’s very obviously socialized with primarily white people her whole life and that shows heavily in her personality. she hang out with horrible people and from what i see, it’s bc although she’s a poc, she has a lot of the privileges that these white men have. i’ve seen clips of her saying she hates her last name bc it was too “ethnic”. the way she acts around other women when they’re being berated says a lot about her. and the way she allows other guys to make fun of her also shows what she thinks is acceptable and what’s not. she doesn’t seem to be an inherently bad person but her morals are definitely questionable.

    • @Seraphina93
      @Seraphina93 Před 5 dny

      Not saying it’s ok,
      But it is relatable.
      I have/ had pretty terrible male friends also,
      Usually they only want one thing and leave when I put boundaries - or girlfriends that are hateful of other women and put my body down.
      So it’s a lose lose situation.

    • @yeahno1796
      @yeahno1796 Před 4 dny +5

      she said that its bec of the way people pronnounce her last name, not the name itself. shes very proud of being persian as to what ive seen so far but yeah

  • @bk.dannaa
    @bk.dannaa Před 5 dny +24

    stop you're so right about the vinnie hacker thing. like, he likes anime and star wars... and? 😭

  • @nyadoodle
    @nyadoodle Před 5 dny +91

    ur so cool u give the vibes of the type of people i'd like to be friends with irl 😭 i hope ur channel grows

    • @Seraphina93
      @Seraphina93 Před 5 dny +2

      She’s so kind and I love this video.

    • @heartshapedari
      @heartshapedari Před 3 dny +1

      She looks a lot like my older sister idk why maybe it’s the hair or something.

  • @celinelindematthiesen4800

    I really love your drama recaps 'cause you're one of the only people I've watched who manage to hold people accountable while simultaneously being realistic and not criticize these people for being human

  • @danaabusaifan3362
    @danaabusaifan3362 Před 5 dny +62

    i usually get bored when im watching a video of a podcast like this, but your videos are so inticing and i really love your approach to all the drama. it is very entertaining, keep doing what you do!!

  • @savannah6508
    @savannah6508 Před 5 dny +27

    6:04 "i forget what exactly what the group was called but Johnny was in the influencer *scene* " i don't think that pun was intentional but it hit absolutely perfectly lol.

  • @nullskey8370
    @nullskey8370 Před 4 dny +16

    tara dances on the line between not being a girls girl and being a pick me

  • @Flutt3rsh
    @Flutt3rsh Před 5 dny +26

    I'm sorry but Jake at one point had JEFFREY DAHMERS GLASSES???

  • @sisyphus-om9ul
    @sisyphus-om9ul Před 5 dny +81

    oh my GOSH THE EXCITEMENT FLOWING THROUGH MY VEINS IVE BEEN LOVING YOU RECAPPING DRAMA pls do more im obsessed with you

  • @meaniepanini3198
    @meaniepanini3198 Před 5 dny +140

    14 and 21 when they first met each other??????????? Put that man in JAIL

    • @meaniepanini3198
      @meaniepanini3198 Před 5 dny +1

      ESPECIALLY when he continues to make p€do jokes around/to children ???? Hello ??!

    • @IsThisJd
      @IsThisJd Před 5 dny +30

      @@meaniepanini3198in a video discussing his behaviour, he had a 13 year old in his podcast and really couldn’t contain himself. He had to keep making her uncomfortable by asking if she had a boyfriend and making sexual jokes. It’s just bewildering how he hasn’t been criticised until now and even now, a large number of people still don’t know about his behaviour.

    • @6arelyDisciple
      @6arelyDisciple Před 2 dny +1

      I personally think he's a borderline pdf file

    • @shirleyellinger
      @shirleyellinger Před 19 hodinami

      THIS. and on top of the fact that he called Tara a ped*s dream....and then follows up by hitting on her!

  • @ShaggyNorvilleRogers
    @ShaggyNorvilleRogers Před 5 dny +44

    I need to see you learn about the "my digital escape" lore. It is insane

  • @camiryn7558
    @camiryn7558 Před 2 dny +9

    More clips that i've seen going around now of tara being a "pick me" are of her, when being asked to do a makeup tutorial, she'll pretend that she doesn't know how to do makeup or what a makeup product is...as if she isn't in a FULL BEAT 24/7.. that feels like the "im one of the boys" "im not like the other girls" memes that were around in the early 2010s...I think she just tends to infantilize herself in an odd way that semi enables creeps (not to say that she deserves ANY man to think that way of her) it just makes her insufferable

    • @SamAshton-zh5yf
      @SamAshton-zh5yf Před 2 dny +1

      She was 18 when she filmed that video now she's 24 she said she do full makeup she even has tutorials in her yt channel

  • @BuckyBigs
    @BuckyBigs Před 5 dny +23

    I love how she just randomly talked about being constipated at the end of the video

  • @sanyuktaagarwal1208
    @sanyuktaagarwal1208 Před 5 dny +40

    i really loved your video and the way you highlighted their faults as well as their helpness on the internet. In the end we're all humans with both good and bad and the best we can do is be kind to each other :)

  • @stzrrz
    @stzrrz Před 5 dny +55

    I'm a fan, and I agree with all of this. I think because of the recent conversation about them, people jump to hate them without any context.

  • @taylorr8850
    @taylorr8850 Před 2 dny +11

    love you but the constant “i don’t know, i don’t know that name, i don’t like them, im not into that stuff” like?? then why make the video you obviously don’t know enough or care about them so why make the video.

    • @snarkybug4
      @snarkybug4 Před 2 dny +2

      I know right lol personally this video was a miss for me. Love Amanda though!

    • @thehotline504
      @thehotline504 Před 2 dny +3

      I feel like this video was more of a response to the pick me allegations for Tara. I think a video centered around that specific topic would have even a lot better.

  • @Colbys.emohair
    @Colbys.emohair Před 5 dny +6

    Ugh thank you SO MUCH for making this video. I have been wanting to make a video essay about all of this and make a ton of points similar to yours, but I don’t have a CZcams channel so I know no one would see it so thank you for being unbiased and not hateful about it!!!!!

  • @13tspoet
    @13tspoet Před 5 dny +18

    danny gonzalez is actually my favorite influencer couple too

  • @AFunitar
    @AFunitar Před 5 dny +6

    Honestly thank you I’ve needed this

  • @ghoulsarereal
    @ghoulsarereal Před 5 dny +11

    you’re vids are so insightful and well researched! ILYSM 😍

  • @Ami1hH
    @Ami1hH Před 5 dny +9

    I LOVE “unnecessarily long recap” videos!!💗

  • @whitepiano3737
    @whitepiano3737 Před 2 dny +9

    I’m sorry, but minimising subcultures into “aesthetics” is so so offensive the alternative scene especially punk has always been about politics, humanities, social cases, non-conformity, anti-consumerism and human rights. sure you can dress anyway you like just because you like it but in Jakes case he has labelled his style as punk but later said that he doesn’t, because actual punk people get mad at it😂

  • @mamadev7687
    @mamadev7687 Před 4 dny +15

    finally a video discussing the drama that isn't completely bad faith with horrible takes

    • @mamadev7687
      @mamadev7687 Před 4 dny +5

      legit someone tried to make johnnie look as bad as possible by saying he was "pushing 30" at 26 years old,,, bruh

    • @mamadev7687
      @mamadev7687 Před 4 dny +1

      okay i posted this comment before i finished the whole video and now i know that she's criticizing the exact same bs video that i watched lmaoooo

    • @mmmmnhhh
      @mmmmnhhh Před 3 dny +3

      @@mamadev7687she said 26 is still young and frontal lobe is just start developing 😭 let’s calm down

    • @mamadev7687
      @mamadev7687 Před 3 dny +1

      @@mmmmnhhh actually your frontal lobe stops developing at 25. also calm down with what? i'm agreeing with this video

    • @kyopium3676
      @kyopium3676 Před 2 dny

      seriously dude. i just watched a video before this and i felt so ticked off when they said they understand johnnie's depression but then proceed to call him "whiny". it's soooo ???

  • @vikkipink1288
    @vikkipink1288 Před 5 dny +31

    It would be a lot less weird if he hadn’t known her since she was 14. That adds an extra layer of potential sus in my opinion.

    • @glu3dd
      @glu3dd Před 3 dny

      yeah its so disgusting he was preying on her since she was 14 and her mother didnt do anything

  • @bwatbit
    @bwatbit Před 5 dny +3

    Yessss i love this video :)

  • @paisleethinks
    @paisleethinks Před dnem

    This was great 👏🏼

  • @sarahchasauce935
    @sarahchasauce935 Před 4 dny +2

    I love you thanks for being astute and putting so much context and thought into this

  • @adelia-nsb
    @adelia-nsb Před 5 dny +10

    Perfect vid to fall asleep to! Thank you Amanda

  • @jojomojo1738
    @jojomojo1738 Před 5 dny +138

    Cheating in a relationship with people that saw each other as sibling where one was barely a teenager is the LEAST harmful thing that could have come from that. Good for her!

  • @pawicides
    @pawicides Před 4 dny +1

    thank u for this

  • @c4m.111
    @c4m.111 Před 5 dny +8

    i love this needs more attention

  • @yoursalwaysliyah
    @yoursalwaysliyah Před 5 dny +17

    i appreciate you making an actual unbiased critique and explanation on this situation. i feel like some people are taking it too far by bashing their personalities.

    • @Seraphina93
      @Seraphina93 Před 5 dny +5

      Yh and one girl is actually hostile by going against Tara‘s parents and nothing happened.
      Well at least one of her videos got age restricted so small things :)

    • @Vamp3ri
      @Vamp3ri Před 3 dny

      Fr

  • @Ngsl11
    @Ngsl11 Před 5 dny +5

    You explained this so well

  • @JuliaChojnacki
    @JuliaChojnacki Před 5 dny

    I LOVE THIS

  • @LolaSchms
    @LolaSchms Před 5 dny +4

    I’ve been so lost but to lazy to keep up thanks my love❤🥰‼️

  • @literallyaflower
    @literallyaflower Před 5 dny +129

    my favorite days are when amanda posts and unnecessarily long recap

  • @soap7429
    @soap7429 Před 5 dny +10

    these r so entertaining lol

  • @zilveed9466
    @zilveed9466 Před 4 dny +1

    i really enjoyed this vid while working on my exams. the way you explain things was just easy to listen to so thanks! :)

  • @eden8992
    @eden8992 Před 4 dny +2

    your voice is so calming and you explain things very well, I'm falling asleep

  • @canarytoacoalmine
    @canarytoacoalmine Před 3 dny +9

    I stopped watching them when in Jake's cruise vlog, Tara was tispy or drunk and started doing grabby hands and going "Uppies uppies uppies! Johnnie will you carry me to dinner!" It was too weird for me to keep watching the video. I watched Tara's cruise vlog, and she was much more chill. I think she was playing it up for his vlog, but it's still really weird!
    Another thing that made me stop watching, is even though I like their videos trying weird stuff, I grew up pretty poor. Target is expensive to me. Them spending on so much food and random things they don't need other for the videos makes me kinda mad when they don't need to! It's wasteful.

    • @SamAshton-zh5yf
      @SamAshton-zh5yf Před 3 dny

      The problem with tara that she film herself drunk and people clip that and they tought that's her real personality

  • @laceyspetrat
    @laceyspetrat Před 4 dny +1

    this video is honestly amazing no words can describe how happy i am to have come across this channel

  • @whyalani
    @whyalani Před 2 dny +2

    gosh i literally love u sm. ur my cup of tea 💝💝

  • @CrystalYourBookworm
    @CrystalYourBookworm Před 5 dny +4

    Literally squealed when I saw you posted more tea

  • @Shrekswifey._
    @Shrekswifey._ Před 5 dny +51

    They’re just normal people making videos, people put “influencers” on this pedestal where they’re expected to be perfect, almost every problematic thing they’ve done they’ve addressed it. It’s insane how everyone suddenly hates them now. As a fan of all of them I also do have to admit the fandom is RANK they’re either 10 year olds that think they’re funny or 40 year old women that infantalize them 😭 I made the “ you look like the type of guy to have a green mist following you around “ on Jake’s TikTok and the AMOUNT OF PEOPLE OFFENDED saying stuff like “don’t talk about my man my precious Jake like that” is actually insane.