My friends I will be diligently studying the pronunciation of every Directors’ last name I make a review for in the future 😂. I appreciate all the love everyone!
@@micheleparadis2808bruh. While I’m all for correct pronunciation, I have heard people pronounce Villenueve a handful of different ways. It’s an easy mistake to make and it’s even easier to correct
If you care (which I think you should 😊) it’s Denis Vil (like in villain) neuve (n + uh like when you hesitate + vvv). I am Québécois so you can trust this! Nice commentary, BTW! Loved the film and love everything Denis has done so far in his career!
Dune 2 even has diverse cast without preaching to the audience about it. They wrote them as genuinely interesting characters with their own flaws, strengths, and weaknesses to overcome which made them interesting to watch and develop over time. It comes down to good writing and not just hitting checkboxes. Dune 2 nails it.
Nah.. Nolan was allowed to do whatever he wanted and produced a political cringe that is Oppenheimer. It's a great story with well matched director, a huge budget and cast full of stars. If it didn't succeed nothing would.
Someone had to do it (raise the bar) I'm so happy it was Dune 2. It will be the film that all other upcoming films are compared to. Mediocre CGI-fest Marvel dumps aren't going to cover it anymore. Audiences have tried the spice melange.
I wish you were right.... This, I think, is one of its kind. No other director of action movies (even if Dune is a lot more then action, oh lord is it a lot more....) has the time or passion to whip out something like that. If I may compare it to something else (please humor me, you will see my point) such as LOTR when the Peter Jackson trilogy came out. That format at the time did not become the new standard either. I think what does a lot of the work is the original story itself. I also think it is harder to adapt a well known and loved story then something more obscure so both did a terrific job on that. Most movies are products to sell tickets and toys. Marvel is specifically that. I mean The Batman from Dc with Robert Pattinson (sorry I forget director) definitely has brought something original and fresh to the world of heroes but that seem to have stopped quite quickly after. I mean, we are still less then 2 weeks from the release of Madame Web... As inspiring as Denis is, the present people in charge and other directors sure do not have his patience, talent, budget nor vision. Aaand, eventually people will actually realise what Dune is truly about.... this is not very regular box office material, it may be a bit too much for the average viewer.
I think they won't be over as long as people exist without depth too. Which will always be the case :D There are people who will never need deeper meaning in films because they don't have the capacity to understand or appreciate it.
Agreed! I'm old enough to recall Star Wars and Empire Strikes back as well. The energy surrounding this film is similar and it's great for this current generation to have 'their' epic films.
Austin Butlers choice to have the same dialect as Stellan was PERFECT! It really cemented the world building for me, because it felt like this was the harkonen dialect
Another notable use of this technique is during the bank heist shootout of the movie Heat. No music, no exaggerated screams of pain or fear, just pure uncomfortable tension with revving engines and automatic gunfire providing the score. I feel as it's the definitive modern era gunfight on film.
I noticed it immediately, but that's because i started going down the Cinematography/Filmmaker/Music-ProducerTube rabbit hole a few years ago. Noticed immediately and then "melded" right back into the scene.
The no music made everything so much more intense 😫 I literally just got into dune 3 weeks ago and ngl I was nervous for Paul because I'm spoiler free so i didn't know what was gonna happen 😅 I think that was one of the first times I felt on the edge of my seat while watching a movie truly what an experience.
The final knife fight had me at the edge of my seat. Usually when you see the main protagonist struggle and start to lose the fight, you know that they will still prevail. But for this fight, I really thought he was going to die and I don’t know how that effect was so successful.
Yeah, they did really good with the fake out on this. I think it will still seem that way even when watching it multiple times. That's the brilliance. And to make a film like this, out of a book, and all of the public is almost 100% happy with it? That's practically unheard of. The only other film to book that hit that satisfying mark was The Chronicle's of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe, but ultimately that's a much less complicated children's novel.
Even re watching it knowing he wins, it still feels like he could lose. I've done boxing before and that panting is all too familiar, like you want to move your muscles but you just can't. You feel helpless. Not adding music to this scene is what made it so great, along with the great choreography.
I wasn't on edge...I was yawning because its soooooo cliche.... Good guy v bad guy in 1 v 1 fight at end and you KNOW the "goodie" is gonna win.. Not to mention he has SUPERPOWERS(Neo Matrix/Superman) problem of being O.P.. The "baddies" were pretty 1 dimensional... Why are the evil fat white guys evil?... Cause... Just cause...
It really played with the theme of faith because at some point you start thinking "is he gonna lose? Is it gonna be a lame twist like that?" But then you start having fait in Paul just like the fremen. So the movie manages to make you go through the same dilemma of it's characters.
Yeah the quality and measured use of CGI in this really sets new standards. Not once do you even consciously notice anything as obvious CGI. It all feels just organic and enjoyably restrained.
@@axelhopfinger533he did the opposite of what a lot of cgi heavy movies do (focus the entire shot on the big cgi object with swirling drone camera) and put the humans in between us and the cgi effect. A couple of times there was a large ship crashing or sandstorm breaching the sand but the camera was focused on the actors reaction to the even or them moving through the environment. The cgi wasn’t the focus but just a tool to better the story
agreed, and the irony (?) of seeing a Furiosa preview before the movie made it all that more apparent. The Furiosa glimpse looked like someone decided to take all the real effects from fury road and turn it all entirely CGI. It looked cheap and lacking life, such a shame because Fury Road was uh-mazing. But to further your point Dune's effects , environments and world building were borderline PERFECTION. Absolutely phenomenal use of CGI.
I feel like I noticed how much CGI is put on a pedestal in Hollywood after I saw District 9 - a movie that also uses lots of CGI but doesn't desperately want you to notice and be in awe of its use.
The DP on Blade Runner 2049 said he could count on one hand the times they used green screen. DV is not screwing around and is on a one man mission to restore cinema as an artform.
Dude, the shot of the emperors ship flying over arraken was mind blowing to me. The reflections on the ship looked real, like it actually looked like it was a real damn ship flying in how the cgi showed the cities reflection. I out loud literally said “wow”.
What blew me away was Paul entered the desert as a thin, reserved and slightly stuck up duke’s son and he returns as a dynamic, charismatic wild man. He enters the room boldly, kills his scariest opponent, and faces the group including the emperor and princess with no fear. The fact that he’s covered in sand and desert clothes while they’re clean in fancy clothes… the juxtaposition is fantastic
His performance was NOT bland in Dune 1. He was a young man who had no idea what was in his future. He was an innocent, and portrayed a young, naive man who would have to MASSIVELY change his world. It was an understated, perfect portrayal.
So now you want to give him an Oscar, surely, like to Michelle Yeoh for a not more than good performance in that very entertaining but not award-worthy movie "Everything, Everyhwere"? Please. Hey, why not give Oscars to the crew of the original Ghostbusters?
@@musashimiyamoto586 I don't follow xD Where is the anger coming from? And why should I want to give an Oscar to someone? (Apart from the fact that I don't care much about awards I don't see how that follows from simply observing that I enjoyed an actor's performance...)
Dennis Villeneuve did something many critics of film thought was impossible: bringing to screen a visually complex world to life. Dune 1 and 2 is what movies should be, patience, the right actors, writing, filming on real location, not overusing CGI, eye pleasing cinematography, and an unbelievable music score.
I strongly disagree with the first few points you make. This was poor storytelling at best. It was both sluggish and then rushed. The timing was all over the place with characters teleporting from location to location. There was also an extremely poor devopment of the relationship between Z and T, again due to the terrible handling of time.
@poiujnbvcxdswq I've read the book. They're two different things, and they're both great in their own ways. No shit a book is going to have a more detailed and complex narrative than a movie lol.
What sets a brilliant adaption apart from a mediocre one is the details in the world building. And Villeneuve has put a lot of effort into making his worldbuilding as rich and detailed as possible, which makes it believable and feel grounded in reality, even though the world itself is fantastically fictional. His visual style feels a little sterile and reductionary at times though.
@@duvetboa the movie changes the narrative totally. Denis doesn't do subtlety and it shows. He made major changes to the plot for no discernable reason other than wanting to. For example, making Keynes a woman means she can't be Chani's father. Not being her father means she isn't half offworlder herself. Her being hypercritical of Paul (which doesn't happen in the book either) would make even less sense if she was in fact half offworlder. So now you have plot alterations on top of plot alterations. It waters down the experience. Frank Herbert is not a hack like Stephen King and Denis is not a genius like Stanley Kubrick.
@@axt2 I'm sorry but it would be completely overwhelming to expect the audience to follow each and every character from the book and their entire plotline. Things need to be cut. Name one single movie adaptation of a book that doesn't cut and prioritize certain narrative elements over others. It captures the essence of the book and the most important characters which is enough for me.
Honestly, this is what happens when an already talented director is a fan of the source material himself, gets a big budget, the freedom to direct as he wishes, the cast to match the ambition and finally, most importantly, makes a movie (or two movies, in this case) that he wants to watch himself. I almost get teary-eyed just thinking about it.
Same. I always recall a quote by Peter Jackson from the behind the scenes of LOTR where he says that the first person he makes a film for is himself and if other people happen to like it, then that's great. Even when the studio meddles with his stuff like the botched theatrical cuts of the Hobbit films, watching the PJ preferred extended editions gives that sense of passion and dedication to the craft nonetheless. Glad to see there's still directors out there with such an outlook on filmmaking.
I respect your point of view, but I couldn’t disagree more. I found these dune movies to be in sufferably, long-winded and boring. They are an incredibly sterile form of movie making.
@@Cleveland_Rocks I won't say that you are wrong. It is a matter of taste, as always. It really appealed to me, but the fact that I was already a massive fan of the books, who have also been called long-winded and boring. So I think we should agree to disagree.
One of the things I noticed in this movie that really surprised me is that it has almost no transitions. It goes from important place/plot point to another and lets the watcher fill in the blank. I began noticing it towards the end where I wanted to go pee but couldn't because it was just important moment after important moment. Yet it didn't feel rushed.
I noticed this the second time watching. I asked my boyfriend wait is his trial to survive in the desert done? It’s a montage that directly flows into him fighting with the fremen but it is such a natural progression.
I agree. I first noticed this well into the film when paul wakes up amongst a crowd of people, looks at his mother, and as soon as the camera transitioned to her it was evening already and just the 2 of them was left.
It did feel rushed to me. Really terrible pacing. It really felt like: and then this happened, and then this happened, and then this happened, and then and then and then...
@@VikingKong. Interesting. I felt a bit like that in the first film but not in the second. As someone who had no contact with Dune before these movies, the world building and character exposition was too much in too short a time for me to also feel emotionally involved. By the time I watched the second film, the world and characters were already in my mind, creating ideas and theories and connections. So I was just drawn into it and was hooked until the last second.
@@LaNoireDetruitdamn this was actually me for the first movie. Completely lost, didn’t get the hype, no huge sttachment to characters. I liked the characters though, especially momoa and Paul’s dad, the duke. And THEN, I watched the second movie and got a fuller picture. Loved it so much. Then I went down the rabbit hole and watched the 84 version, read a ridiculous amount of lore and history behind the books. And then I rewatched both movies back to back and wow
Watched it in Imax. My kids kept asking me why I didn't like it. I asked them why would you think that? They said I was so quiet and I looked upset as we were walking out and I told them naahhh fam... I'm quiet because I have no words from just watching one of the greatest cinematic masterpieces of all time. Maybe upset because I know this is the pinnacle. It doesn't get any better than this.
When Dune 2 finished in Imax... it was for like literally full 20 seconds like total silence. Like people were stunned. I absolutely had no words. I was just sitting there and trying to get my jaw from the floor. My friend asked me "whats up? Did you like it?" and I was like "ugh, mgh, ghh". Becasue no matter what I thought of saying it just wasn't enough. Already booked ticket for second watching in Imax. Absolutely just fucking amazing.
Come on. This is nowhere near a "masterpiece". People have lost their mind over this film and not actually put thought into the huge gaps in the storytelling.
@@paintspot1509 Every book adaptation has gaps in storytelling. Its impossible to avoid them. Lord of the Rings trilogy also has a lot of gaps in storytelling due to books being vastly bigger than any movie could contain (it needed extended editions to close a lot of them), yet they were and always will be masterpieces as well. Dune 1 and Dune 2 is the closest we ever got to cinematic marvelous since LoTR trilogy (though obviously LOTR is still top). Movies like that are made once per 10-20 years. It is masterpiece as there was nothing close to that kind of cinematic and sound epic spectacle since LOTR trilogy.
I found myself, a 50 year old man, moved to tears watching this. I saw the OG in 84 as a kid and have been a dune fan ever since. This is quite possibly the greatest movie I’ve ever seen.
What makes it the greatest movie you have ever seen, when I couldnt understand where they are really going story wise, when they wanted to kill eachother, but then in the end of the movie stand in room not that mad against eachother anymore.
As a musician, Hans Zimmer's choice for the last battle made me smile real good. When telling a story thru sound, sometimes no music is the perfect choice to wnhance the storytelling even more
The fact is that Zimmer wrote the score for the entire story. But how they edit it and where there will be music and where there won’t be is decided only by the director and sound engineer himself. Therefore, Zimmer was also interested in watching at the premiere how the director and his creative sound engineers saw his personal Arakis.
The final battle was so epic it almost had me in tears of joy and exitement. I love when the Fremen emerge from the sand at a full sprint, it just looks so awesome
something that amazed me about this movie is how HUMAN it was, especially with paul's interractions with stilgar and the fremen. especially in the first half of the movie, not everything feels doom and gloom and the characters aren't so stark. stilgar was a lot of fun in this movie
The scene at the beginning where he walks into the seitch and then the scene where he walks into the seitch at the end to rally the fremen. The contrast how everyone was dead silent this time around when he walked in, and then the speech he gives saying what some of them were thinking was absolutely phenomenal
I like that there were absolutely no jokes at times at which people would never joke. Stulgar was just a funny dude but they never broke the tension with a dumb joke.
Frank Herbert, when writing Dune, had the intention of it being very human. It’s one of the only Sci-fi works with no aliens - everyone is human of some sort.
I liked the movie but I really didn't like the first half. It felt... bad. Like it felt like nothing interesting was happening and the story was just "bad guys are very bad". Like the fourth time a bad guy kills a minion for no reason it gets a tad predictable and made me eye-roll. So I felt disappointed at that point in the movie but after that it got really better. Specifically when the movie gets a sense of scale and massive war. Plus the morale compass of Paul gets a bit blurry, you aren't too sure if he's good anymore and that's what I loved. So the movie really left a good impression on me in the end even though I can't agree with people saying "it has no flaws"
One of the keys to the success of Villeneuves movies is that he has a core group of guys he knows how to work with. They're like a package deal, the editor, the composer even some of the actors
One of the subtle details I liked so much about Dune 2 was when Christopher Walken's character feigned kissing the ring. In contrast, Bautista's character put his lips to the boot and smacked. Just shows the subtleties in how the individuals convey their dispositions despite the events. Great acting, even though the chemistry between Paul and Chani wasnt all there.
@@omgwat It's so fascinating what difference there is in everybody's experience. For me, Chani/Zendaya was such a crucial piece of contrapoint to the believers and his mother and portrayed perfectly. The two of them still seeming kind of apart (probably what op called not having chemistry), although in love with and respecting each other, totally made sense to me as they are culturally totally different plus the messiah thing.
@@LaNoireDetruit Thats just part of the script. I thought her acting was fairly mediocre. Is it true she has no accent becuase she couldn't do one? Someone told me this so idk the validity of it
@@johnj3027 I was also talking about her acting - I feel she portrayed the character very well. I love the way she conveys her opinion through a twitch in her face alone. I guess this is where we have different impressions.
I still believe he has it inside him -- the ability to make a good fun movie and he seems like a genuinely nice guy so I wish him his success but yeah.. he has a lot to learn from masterpieces like Dune 2 made by more competent storytellers.
300 was amazing. Justice League re-release was epic as well. He's come up short of the green on occasion but let's not fail to mention where he's knocked it out of the park.
To be fair, probably a lot of directors are crying somewhere. What Denis Villeneuve did (as he seems to always do) is simply a Masterpiece. It is kind of unfair to compare his work to most people. He is.... from Quebec (so am I), in a sense directors who seem to not come from the Hollywood culture have a different output and ways of doing film. I won't do his biography but to resume it briefly, Dune is a book he read when he was 14, that book made him decide to do movies. The man is literally realising his dream and he is allowed a large budget, he has the technical skill to do so and is joined by a cast of incredible and passionate people... As much as this movie will make money, it clearly was done as a passion project and it shows. Most directors do not have all these things combined (vision, dream, talent and budget) to do anything. Zach Snyder, I think (and this will be unpopular), had his opportunity with Watchmen. His subsequent films were...lacking in some respect. Sometimes things absoluely out of his control, the end result remains the same
I bet he saw this and said to himself “ I can do that. That must be real easy. Point the camera & tell the pretty people to to scream. “ Snyder wouldn’t know a decent script if it hit him in the butt.
I saw this movie at a sold-out showing in the Pacific Science Theater in Seattle at 8 at night. I don't think a single person stood up that entire time. Not one. No bathroom breaks, no extra popcorn, no refills. Nothing. The entire theater was lost in the movie and was only let free of its grasp when the credits rolled. I've never seen that in my life.
In my theather I saw some people walking out from the movie to toilet brake and some had snacks there they ate in there. It was visually impressive movie, but very weird and slow story wise, that it was sometimes bit boring and very weird in how in the end they stand in the same room with eachother, while they were just moment ago enemies ready to kill eachother.
When i went to the cinema for the first dune i just got this feeling that cinema history is happening infront of my eyes. It just feels so surreal to me that a scifi movie comparable in quality to star wars is growing right here infront of my eyes.
‘Only I Will Remain’ playing when Paul says “Bring them all to paradise…” broke me. So much tragedy, hope, and fear in one line, underscored by Hans Zimmer’s beautiful but melancholic lament for what’s to come…
I noticed that, and linking it to how he loves Chani for as long as he breathes, his breath is his love song for his partner, it is the soundtrack of the fight.
I think one of the reasons why it hit because we have not seen such a good movie in 5 to 10 years, especially in theaters and this just hit the spot perfectly wherever you are.
My son saw this with me and I told him that the way he described it to me was the same way I felt watching the LOTR trilogy with my dad and how he described seeing the original Star Wars trilogy with his mom. Like, you rarely get moments where it feels like a tide is changing, but when it happens, it’s breathtaking.
Only saw it in a nice, big Dolby Atmos theatre but i also felt my seat vibrating. The sound design is just exceptional and made for the big screen experience in these movies.
To be fair, not everyone really wants their chest rumbling. I personally felt it was way, way, WAY too jarring in IMAX, and almost everyone I saw it with (I've seen it twice now) agreed that it was way too loud. But it's also possible that our theater wasn't well calibrated. I'm guessing it's less a movie problem and more a theater issue
@@maxoptende9843 it just refers to the financial people in hollywood counting the dollar bills, chasing trends, and generally minimizing risk and investment to just make the most money possible
As an analyst myself (not in film), they will absolutely take good insights out of this but mgmt will shoot it down and do what they want anyway. Happens all the time lol
The second half of Dune 2 had me literally on the edge of my seat the entire time. From the moment he woke up from the poison, all the way through the end of the movie. Everything was just perfect
The first time I saw it, I remember thinking the movie was short until I checked the time when the credits were rolling. Everything flowed so well that it legit felt like I'd only been in there for 90 minutes.
Chalamet's performance being underwhelming is now put into a new context of being part of a larger growth arc and it works wonders if you watch part 1 and then immediately go to the theatre for part 2
@@bobvanka No, i think he did an ok job. Just not an outstanding one. Plus i just never really warmed up to him personally. Same with Zendaya btw. Just don't sit right with me for some reason.
Went to see it twice in two days. My head is just full of Dune. No other film feels like this. Will be such a shame when you can only watch it at home, watching it on the big screen with the sound literally moving you is an experience.
Bruh. I watched it yesterday and as soon as it finished I was like, I need to watch it again in theater. I must have watched the first one 8 times already. But this one I want to watch again in theater. Such an amazing and beautiful movie.
i think after the scene in giedi prime with the strange fluid fireworks i noticed 'wow, there is no decision visually and creatively i haven't liked so far'. every visual aspect was designed perfectly, the film feels truly creative and has a lot of personality
This also isn't a science fiction film. The Dune series is fantasy. Taking place on a different planet doesn't make it science fiction. There's literally no real science involved in this series. You're not going to get high on spice and suddenly be able to travel through interstellar space and live longer. Yes, spice is a drug.
@@dayjeremy The Guild Navigators' dependence on Spice to travel between stars is due to it allowing them to see the destination and not hit anything when they fold space. The technology of the series is what actually does the folding.
What im hearingabout dune 2 is about what i thought about blade runner 2049 when I saw it. Best cinema experience of my life, I just think alot of people just didnt go and see it and really missed out.
I really enjoy watching Dune 2 breakdowns and perspectives from different youtubers, from hate to love, this is what PROPER pop-culture is meant to be; to be conversed about, to love and hate, to recomend to enjoy or to recommend to avoid. Its a cinematic masterpiece, irregardless that you dont enjoy its pacing, cinematography wise, it hits all the checklists. It will go down as one of the top cinema/film of this century going forward. The way Denise Villeneuve adapted this for Frank Hurbert's vision, with the same passion as Peter Jackson's of LOTR for JRR.Tolkein is a merit in itself. I never thought we'd get the stars aligning on a Sci-Fi blockbuster movie's production, seeing the debacle that is Hollywood these days. Its up there, with Oppenheimer.
I’ve been absorbed in Dune going on 20 years, once it gets in your blood it never lets go. “The mind commands the body and it obeys, the mind orders itself… and meets resistance”.
Bro Javier was so good at his role that I literally saw no country for old man the day before I went to the theatre to watch Dune and I literally DID NOT NOTICE that it was him till I was at the credits. I legit am not kidding you didn't even notice it was him like at all.
Yep! I felt they did a great job with the Feyd-Rautha arena scene where one of the opponents wasn’t drugged, but I feel like having read the book makes that scene so much easier to digest. Just one of those moments
I saw it and loved it. I have not only read the book I analyzed it. I am going back to see it again. I am delighted that cinematography is getting revived. Hollywood take note. This the new standard.
Didn't really experience it this way sadly. I reread the book specifically to catch those nuances but instead, I couldn't get over the things they left out or flat-out changed. Dune Part 1 might just be one of my all-time favourite movies, but Dune Part 2 is more like a good 7. I think that I might have enjoyed it more if I hadn't read the book(s).
@@NH-gq9qkI relate to this so much. I re-read the book right before watching the movie and I can't get over the feeling of missing the key touching moments from the book. The arena scene on giedi prime is a masterpiece, but the plot has been so twisted it feels like watching something completely different...
@@NH-gq9qk Agreed. While the changes to Part 1 were acceptable, the ones done to Part 2 butchered the experience for me and my dad, who's a major sci-fi reader, and devoured Dune about 10 times in his life. Most of the movie was fantastic, but in the final 30 minutes or so, book readers get hit with a bat three times. We both felt distaste at how several plots were treated, and ended up utterly disgusted with the ending. The entire guerilla campaign reduced to under 9 months, so they didn't have to worry about casting Alia. Drinking the Water of Life was as big of a deal, as an abstainer taking on a bottle of vodka solo. No connection made between the worms and spice. Irulan taken as wife, only for the Houses to refuse Paul's claim to the throne. And lastly, what the heck is Chani's "rebellion" supposed to serve here? Who's going to give birth to Leto II and Ghanima now, Irulan? What a joke. Why would Villeneuve include this childish sulking at all is beyond me, but giving it that much focus is ludicrous. He crafted a marvelous cake, but instead of putting a cherry on top, he sprinkled it with mice droppings. Two hours of awe decapitated with this folly of his.
A lot of people today will skip the theater and wait for a movie to come out on Netflix. But with releases like Oppenheimer, Godzilla Minus One, and now Dune 2, my faith in the movie going experience is being restored! Blockbusters that are made FOR the theater with their massive scale, not just another Marvel movie that's "shot on IMAX" but instead movies filmed FOR the biggest screens with purpose. I'm so happy lol
I won't ever watch another Nolan movie in a theater. I have to assume he is hearing impaired, because any other interpretation of his sound engineering just means he is a jerk at best. The bad sound mixing started in the Batman films, and just keeps getting worse. I asked for my money back 10 minutes into Dunkirk.
Paul walking into the Fremen leaders reunion scene felt amazing, just watching the transformation of the character from a frail apprentice into this powerful feet stomping leader had my brain tickling
Loved all your points, especially the fact that this is hitting you in a particular time and place. I’m also a dude who watched LOTR, and Harry Potter, as they were coming out, but was a bit too young to really savor them, and then saw the lesser subsequent films and whatnot when I was older. Dune feels particularly good because I feel like I’m seeing it when it’s most relevant AND when I’m most primed to understand and enjoy it.
that last 45 minutes is siglehandedly the best switch up in a character ive ever seen on film even moreso then anakin in the prequels. its just hit SO HARD and really got you amped tf up
Dude, I gotta hand it to Timmy. I did not think he'd nail Muad'Dib as well as he did. By the end of the movie, I wanted to go fight a galactic jihad for him.
I genuinely don't believe any one of the star wars movies from any of the three trilogies can even be compared to Dune Part 2, it genuinely tops that whole franchise, and this is coming from a star wars fan
I turned to my friends right after it ended and said, “well, I think that’s the best sci fi action movie I’ve ever seen”. What a feeling! The whole movie I was in this surreal state of holy shit I’m watching The Best for the first time
I'm old enough to remember this feeling when the original Star Wars movies came out in the 70's and 80's. Watching these two films with my son, who's now an adult, and discussing their themes, nuances, and implications, has been amazing!
You really hit the nail on the head for me when you pointed out we're witnessing this AS ADULTS and it's pretty amazing to be part of this knowing it's not an epic just because it's nostalgic. It's epic because IT IS, because right now it's already a masterpiece and probably is that in all parts of it: sound, cinematography, production design, acting... it's just the blockbuster we've waited so long for. So mature and complex and Im at an age when I can appreciate all of it.
I'm sorry, but in no way was the acting in this film that of a "masterpiece". At the very least it was severely lacking in chemistry between the lead characters and i am not sure what film Christopher Walkins thought he was meant to be in. It was a beautiful film but a long way from a masterpiece.
It's funny because, for me, I've been an adult for basically everything referenced in this video and I think it misses some really important works. First, anyone who saw The Matrix in theaters knew that it would forever change filmmaking. The sequels were nothing to write home about, but that first movie was transformative. Second, Mad Max Fury Road is such a perfect encapsulation of a visionary director taking his time to put together a perfect film that achieves his vision. I don't know that Villeneuve gets to make Dune without Fury Road showing that an on-location, practical effects-laden "genre flick" could garner modern mainstream success. And as poorly some people speak about the Star Wars sequels and the MCU, I think it is important to acknowledge that these mass market IPs used to be *incredibly* niche nerd IPs, but their success at the box office allowed the money people to take a chance on something like Dune.
This is the first time I had to see a movie twice on IMAX. One of the greatest movies ever. One of the things you did not adress is the sound design and Zimmer's soundtrack - mind blowing
Honestly Javier’s performance just stayed with me the most after the movie. He really sold it as a believer that it just made everything else work and build up even more. I really hope he gets his flowers for this movie. He made the character so special. The second time I watched it with a crowd that laughed at all his parts. It was really fun and an exciting joy whenever he was on the screen.
I’m not exaggerating when I say this is the best movie I have ever seen. I have never been so engaged in a story. The runtime was close to 3 hours, but if you had asked me to guess how long I had been watching before the last scene I would have guessed about an hour and a half. I was shocked when it ended because I couldn’t believe 2 hours and 45 minutes had gone by so quickly
Look I agree that Dune 2 did a good job of not feeling like a 3 hour movie, but if it's honestly the best movie you've seen then you've got a lot of catching up to do.
@@AllUpOns Just my two cents: At the end of the day, it is subjective to each person whether they believe a film is the best film they have ever seen. And, I mean, Dune Part II is not a bad choice for that. I do, however, agree with the sentiment that there are many great films to watch, and further viewing could, perhaps, change their mind. At the end of the day, I strongly believe that people should be allowed to express grand statement like "This is the best movie I have ever seen."
@@tWobithoboafter all it’s not entirely subjective. No shame in liking a bad movie but people also should be allowed to say that one’s opinion sometimes is more or less educated/sophisticated. I mean how do you react to a kid that says baby shark is the best piece of music he’s heard?
@@AllUpOnsI’ve seen Tarkovsky, Bergman, Kubrick and Kurosawa’s filmography, among most of the basic other ones as well (Scorsese, Nolan, Tarantino, etc). It immediately became my favourite film as well, even after a second viewing. Now I’m not saying it’s the greatest film I’ve ever seen by any means, but it definitely moved me the most for some reason and it’s my favourite. People are allowed to enjoy different things.
@@ignacydrozdowicz8107 I lol at his scrawny body trying to move fast in that terrible costume. You cannot even tell what happened to conclude the fight, how Feyd got stabbed.
@@AnEvolvingApe how Feyd got stabbed is intentionally hidden for the drama. You see Feyd's reaction before you see the knife. The stab sound even coincide with when Feyd stab Paul's shoulder.
Loved this movie. Have been waiting for an adaptation that was this good since I read the book a couple decades ago. I am also really glad that Villenueve tried pretty hard to communicate the message that Herbert was trying to convey in the book, and worked that message into the relationship Paul and Chani had.
Same!! It’s so refreshing to not have a director try to “leave their mark” by changing important moments in the story. And now one would argue that Denis has left a greater mark than any other adapter!
@@nicokiewski2747 Yes, its not 100% book accurate but a VERY good adaptation. There is a great interview from DV talking about how Herbert felt readers were missing the cautionary tale element so he wrote Messiah. DV didn't want audiences to miss the cautionary tale theme so he adapted Chani to highlight it.
@@steveskonntent as others said, he changed quite a lot, especially about part 2. In the books, the South was actually hiding _something big_ which was totally gotten rid of in the movie. I think Dune The Movie and Dune The Book are almost two different stories but Villanueve stayed so faithful to the themes and arguably *improved* aspects of the book in its adaptation. Chani is like a *much* better character in the movie than in the book. The character development in general is better in the movie than in the book. The thing the movies lacked that I wish they explained was all the backstory and the real political intrigue going on, because in ways, it makes the emperor look worse than even Baron Harkonnen. It also makes Leto I look much sharper than he was given credit for in the movie, the imperium just moved faster and in greater force than a reasonable person imagined.
Same. Could really feel my seat vibrate and the shots and explosions were nice punches to the chest. The Dune sound design alone justifies the existence of big screen theaters in the current decade because it adds so much to the experience you just cannot replicate except with a top of the line audiophile home theater setup.
This is how the original 80s film felt when it first came out. It’s great when directors follow the book material and actors are able to have reign over the characters in that scope.
Dang it. I told myself I wasn’t gonna cry. Fuuuuh. I’m happy for you, sad to see you go, but excited for the change because, it’s part of life. Thanks Matt Pat.
I love the story behind why the Geidi Prime scenes were shot in infra-red. You might think it was an artistic choice, or just Denis being a weird auteur, but no. He told the studio he wanted to do Geidi Prime in black and white, but he didn't trust the studio not to meddle and moan about it, so he refused to shoot the scenes in colour with the intention of removing the colour later, it HAD to be infra-red to ensure nobody was EVER going to be able to colourise it with any kind of accuracy. He said the studio signed off on it in blood, but they signed off on it, so clearly they weren;t happy about it even then, so it was probably a wise choice.
I just watched an interview with Denis and he stated that it was an artistic choice. Human beings look strange and different when captured in IR. Our skin looks ghostly (milky and translucent in his words), our eyes seem to be cast in permanent shadow. It’s an unsettling but very cool effect! There is the added bonus that it’s impossible to add color back.
@@PDXNTV colorization of b&w or IR film is inherently guesswork. the color data doesn't exist. it's also a much more difficult process involving a lot of manual work. that's what denis is talking about. colorization of the IR shot scenes isn't improssible, just very impractical.
@@PDXNTVyou miss the point, you won’t be able to just add color back because the black and white image is capturing light not part of the visible spectrum. It is seeing things we can’t see with a normal camera, and not seeing things we can. If you added color back, it would be an unnatural mess. And would not match other parts of the film.
I loved both Dune movies - I’ve read the books and there’s so much more that could have been included but I’m not convinced would have as movies made them better. The only true way to do justice to the book is to have a television series that’s GoT esque in budget, scale and episode length. Critics of the movies espouse a lot of “whataboutism” but for me, if I consume media I judge it on how that media made me feel rather than critique it to death on the finest margins. I watched Dune and it blew me away, both movies. Every shot, every sound, it was all magnificent.
Just got out of the theater in a small town the theater was packed! About the TikTok aspect I’ve seen plenty of edits about the movie and I feel like that is also persuading a lot of younger audiences to flock to the theaters to see this masterpiece.
Dune part 2 is the first film, in over a decade, that I’ve watched then immediately gone back to the kiosk and booked another screening. It’s a complete understatement to say that it is a masterpiece, as even the word ‘masterpiece’ does not do it justice. This really sets the bar high for future high budget movies and I know full well, I’ll be comparing every future release of a movie to this one.
In the "behind the scenes" one of the sound editors said (about the first part): "and then we thought: the sounds won't be foley sounds" - this sentence describes both films perfectly for me. Because it's not just the sound that shows this approach in both films: it's the suit that isn't CGI, the desert, the sounds, the costumes, the visual style and camera editing. In these films, the right people at the right time have created a masterpiece.
Great video. I loved your storytelling through this and as a fellow creative I love what you have to say about this incredible film. I absolutely love this movie and everything about it!
Highest praise I can give the film is that it made me feel similar to when I watched the two towers and return of the king for the first time, shit had me emotional in the theatre purely from how epic it was
Something incredible happened as I watched this film and that is that I utterly forgot these people are actors emoting and reciting lines; that’s how immersive it was. A modern masterpiece.
I do not know a movie I have been this excited about since Iron Man 1. The movie is so good, I did not know movies could be that good. The quality, the pacing, I mean the superb Pacing is incredible. The action scenes are so well done its amazing. Every explosion has a purpose, every fight feels well weighted and necessary.
I remember when I read this book shortly after Star wars IV came out discussing with my buddy how impossible an actual movie of this would be. It is 50% narration and thought. I didn't realize the job Timothy had done until he was near the end of the movie and such an evolved character then at the start. But the woman who played Chani was breathtaking. How to play a tough, smart, deadly ninja female soldier and it is not only not nauseating but compelling, thrilling. What a performance. The director and screen writers are kind of ridiculous.
When I saw the final duel I noticed there wasn't any score in the background and I was so happy about that decision it felt incredibly right for that moment
As a fight choreographer, I loved that there was no score for that final fight. To often on stage and film music is used to communicate the emotions of a fight, but fights are stories, they can speak for themselves, especially when the stakes are that high, and when you can have the control of focus that camera provides.
I went and saw it while on about a gram of mushrooms and it was truly something special. The worm riding scene alone felt larger than life and I wasn't even getting visuals. I got the heightened sense of euphoria that made me feel as if I was getting a face full of spice myself
I don't know if you can truly say it "changed cinema overnight," but it certainly raised the bar regarding cinematography for "tent pole" films. It also re-affirmed to me how important the fundamentals are. An excellent set rather than unlimited CGI, a plot that ultimately focuses on character rather than relying too heavily on action, and strong performances typically equal a good film. Add in a well-done translation of a legendary story that has compelled readers for generations, and you've got a huge success.
I went and saw this last night with my brother and nephews in IMAX. HOLY CRAP! We have seen movies together. But this movie was carried home with us the whole way. The entire 30 minute drive home, we talked about the film, the future of the saga, the meanings we each picked up individually. What's weird, is we all picked up something different. The only consensus we all had that was the same is that it was an incredible film and are so very looking forward to part 3. Only recommendation I can give to anyone who is going to see this film, PLEASE choose a theatre that has an amazing surround sound array. I am not sure what they used for audio in the theatre, but sometimes it was hard to breathe with how intense and immersed I was in sound and picture. I definitely want to go see this again!
If you could quickly summarize what each person took away from the movie? My takeaway theme was the religious one, as in the question of whether the prophecy is real or not within the story. Just like in real life it's up to the viewer to either believe or not to believe and the way that was setup was nice
I can only imagine the happiness that Oscar Isaac was feeling in terms of his recent experiences in playing in science fiction movies. To go from "Somehow, Palpatine returns" to being in the Dune franchise must have felt night and day in terms of the quality of the execution. And I'm saying this as a longtime Star Wars fan.
I just saw it for the first time last night and the more I think about it the more I realize how much I loved that film! Part 1 came out about a month after I finished reading the book and was an amazing experience, but part 2 has surpassed it in every way for me. The cinematography, the score, the action, everything was simply incredible and I had chills the whole time. Part 2 has landed solidly in my top 3 movies of all time, and I can't WAIT to watch it again!
I heard many people (including my roommate, with whom I watched it yesterday) call it the "Lord of the Rings" of our generation. My roommate, who has read all the Dune books, knows what a huge LotR nerd I am so he wouldn't say it lightly but I think I agree with him. LotR is still near and dear to my heart because I grew up with the books and movies but I do believe that Dune is on par with Peter Jackson's trilogy. Denis Villeneuve knows how to use pictures, above all else, to tell a story in a way that makes you emotionally connect with it. I am definitely going to read the books now, as soon as I have a little more time in my life.
The story line’s depths are for more complex in dune. Let me know if you feel differently, but I’ve felt that lord of the rings appeals only to white folks who were raised with too many comforts. Dune dissects the human desire for control so excellently nothing else could compare, especially hobbit folk.
It's the original star wars trilogy of our lifetime. I never had a desire to watch lotr trilogy, but I've already seen dune 2 three times in the theater.
@@shanerooney4604 I am not talking about similarity in story, but cultural impact. Like Lord of the Rings, the Dune books had a massive influence on the trajectory of their genre. While Tolkien essentially created the fantasy genre as we know it today, Herbert's books shaped science fiction in a massive way. Although George Lucas denies it, he obviously took massive inspiration from Dune, as did Games Workshop in its creation of Warhammer 40k. Similarly, the film adaptations of Lord of the Rings shaped cinema, especially in this genre. The Game of Thrones show was clearly shot with Lord of the Rings in mind, as were (to a lesser extent) Gore Verbinski's Pirate movies. You can see the difference between fantasy movies before and after Lord of the Rings. While Star Wars and (to a lesser extent) Star Trek have been the benchmarks for science fiction filmography for the last 50 years, I expect Dune to substitute them in this role. Not only because these movies are getting big numbers at the box office, but because they are just better movies than Star Wars. I like George Lucas and the stories he brought to life, but I'm sorry to say that he is just not a good filmmaker compared to people like Chris Nolan, Steven Spielberg or, you know, Denis Villeneuve.
@@kevineckelkamp The fact that you personally have never seen LotR doesn't mean it didn't have massive cultural impact. Like, objectively, Lord of the Rings was THE movie event of the early 2000s. RotK was the 2nd highest grossing film of all time after Titanic when theater screenings stopped. Also, fantasy filmmaking changed massively after LotR came out. Directors like Gore Verbinski, the Narnia makers and also David Yates, who made the later Harry Potter movies, drew inspiration from LotR. Game of Thrones, which in itself was THE show of the 2010s, based a lot of its cinematographic choices on Peter Jackson's movies, from costume design to shot framing to the way characters are introduced. If you compare pre-LotR fantasy to post-LotR movies, you can clearly see the massive shift. This is what I expect Dune to do. I think we will see a massive shift in the way science fiction is portrayed on screen. We might even see more science fiction books made into movies, with Dune as the template for the cinematographic realization. Up until now, Star Wars has been the benchmark for science fiction, which focused mostly on visual spectacle embedded in a rather simple, but powerful story. Dune is kind of the opposite: There is less visual spectacle (no big, CGI-driven space battles, fight choreography is less elaborate and, in a way, more brutal and straight to the point), but the narrative is more complex and multi-layered. I expect science fiction to make a shift to that direction. Especially because I think that after Disney's takeover of the Star Wars universe, many people are tired of them rehashing the same science fiction template over and over again. Dune offers something new, and people seem to thoroughly enjoy it.
My friends I will be diligently studying the pronunciation of every Directors’ last name I make a review for in the future 😂. I appreciate all the love everyone!
As you should, IF you have a modicum of respect and professionalism...
@@micheleparadis2808bruh. While I’m all for correct pronunciation, I have heard people pronounce Villenueve a handful of different ways. It’s an easy mistake to make and it’s even easier to correct
whatthefvckever BRUH
If you care (which I think you should 😊) it’s Denis Vil (like in villain) neuve (n + uh like when you hesitate + vvv). I am Québécois so you can trust this! Nice commentary, BTW! Loved the film and love everything Denis has done so far in his career!
Super pretentious video bro.
Dune One and Two are what happens when directors are allowed to make good films.
more precisely, DUNE 1 & 2 is the definition of what it would be like if a director made a REALLY SERIOUS AND EPIC SCIFI MOVIE
Exactly my friends!❤
Dune 2 even has diverse cast without preaching to the audience about it. They wrote them as genuinely interesting characters with their own flaws, strengths, and weaknesses to overcome which made them interesting to watch and develop over time. It comes down to good writing and not just hitting checkboxes. Dune 2 nails it.
Nah.. Nolan was allowed to do whatever he wanted and produced a political cringe that is Oppenheimer.
It's a great story with well matched director, a huge budget and cast full of stars. If it didn't succeed nothing would.
@@szkoclaw How is “Oppenheimer” at all “political cringe”?
The days of shallow marvel movies are over. Dune has set the bar so high now.
Than you so much for this comment lol. Finally someone who has good taste and realizes the garbage that marvel movies have been 👏🏻🙏🏻 😂
Someone had to do it (raise the bar) I'm so happy it was Dune 2. It will be the film that all other upcoming films are compared to. Mediocre CGI-fest Marvel dumps aren't going to cover it anymore. Audiences have tried the spice melange.
I wish you were right.... This, I think, is one of its kind. No other director of action movies (even if Dune is a lot more then action, oh lord is it a lot more....) has the time or passion to whip out something like that. If I may compare it to something else (please humor me, you will see my point) such as LOTR when the Peter Jackson trilogy came out. That format at the time did not become the new standard either. I think what does a lot of the work is the original story itself. I also think it is harder to adapt a well known and loved story then something more obscure so both did a terrific job on that.
Most movies are products to sell tickets and toys. Marvel is specifically that. I mean The Batman from Dc with Robert Pattinson (sorry I forget director) definitely has brought something original and fresh to the world of heroes but that seem to have stopped quite quickly after. I mean, we are still less then 2 weeks from the release of Madame Web...
As inspiring as Denis is, the present people in charge and other directors sure do not have his patience, talent, budget nor vision. Aaand, eventually people will actually realise what Dune is truly about.... this is not very regular box office material, it may be a bit too much for the average viewer.
Like marvel raised the bar ever at some point lol. Just mcdonalds stuff. Dune 2 is a 3 star michelin restaurant
I think they won't be over as long as people exist without depth too. Which will always be the case :D There are people who will never need deeper meaning in films because they don't have the capacity to understand or appreciate it.
Now you know how we felt seeing The Matrix and The Lord of the Rings in the theater. I thought Bladerunner 2049 was inspired as well.
the last time a set of movies made me feel this way is the lord of the rings
Agreed! I'm old enough to recall Star Wars and Empire Strikes back as well. The energy surrounding this film is similar and it's great for this current generation to have 'their' epic films.
bladerunner 2049 same director as dune one and two
@@jeffreypeterson2I said the same
@@jeffreypeterson2Same here! This was the first thing I thought of as I left the theatre. It’s amazing to feel that same excitement again
Austin Butlers choice to have the same dialect as Stellan was PERFECT! It really cemented the world building for me, because it felt like this was the harkonen dialect
I was a little confused because why didn't Rabban or the other harkonnen general speak like that
I wish the princess had had a Walken accent
@@Direbeetus Ooh shit. That would have been amazing and funny
I really liked his accent too sounds mad cool
I interpreted more as Feyd-Rautha worshipped his uncle SO MUCH he even wanted to talk like him.
My favorite part of the movie was when paul made chirstopher walken christopher kneelen.
Lmaoooo
the true powers of the lisan al gaib hahaha
🤣🤣🤣🤣
*ba-dum tss!*
LOL
Wow, the decision to not have a score during the climactic duel worked so well that I didn't even notice there wasn't one until this video
Another notable use of this technique is during the bank heist shootout of the movie Heat. No music, no exaggerated screams of pain or fear, just pure uncomfortable tension with revving engines and automatic gunfire providing the score. I feel as it's the definitive modern era gunfight on film.
I noticed it immediately, but that's because i started going down the Cinematography/Filmmaker/Music-ProducerTube rabbit hole a few years ago.
Noticed immediately and then "melded" right back into the scene.
Denis did the same thing with the fight at the end of part one
The no music made everything so much more intense 😫 I literally just got into dune 3 weeks ago and ngl I was nervous for Paul because I'm spoiler free so i didn't know what was gonna happen 😅 I think that was one of the first times I felt on the edge of my seat while watching a movie truly what an experience.
Villeneuve does this really well in his films, with the music cutting out at certain moments that really makes you feel like you are there.
The final knife fight had me at the edge of my seat. Usually when you see the main protagonist struggle and start to lose the fight, you know that they will still prevail. But for this fight, I really thought he was going to die and I don’t know how that effect was so successful.
Yeah, they did really good with the fake out on this. I think it will still seem that way even when watching it multiple times. That's the brilliance. And to make a film like this, out of a book, and all of the public is almost 100% happy with it? That's practically unheard of. The only other film to book that hit that satisfying mark was The Chronicle's of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe, but ultimately that's a much less complicated children's novel.
It was his breathing
Even re watching it knowing he wins, it still feels like he could lose. I've done boxing before and that panting is all too familiar, like you want to move your muscles but you just can't. You feel helpless. Not adding music to this scene is what made it so great, along with the great choreography.
I wasn't on edge...I was yawning because its soooooo cliche....
Good guy v bad guy in 1 v 1 fight at end and you KNOW the "goodie" is gonna win..
Not to mention he has SUPERPOWERS(Neo Matrix/Superman) problem of being O.P..
The "baddies" were pretty 1 dimensional...
Why are the evil fat white guys evil?...
Cause...
Just cause...
It really played with the theme of faith because at some point you start thinking "is he gonna lose? Is it gonna be a lame twist like that?" But then you start having fait in Paul just like the fremen. So the movie manages to make you go through the same dilemma of it's characters.
One of the very very few movies where I wanted to go see it again right when it ended. It’s a masterpiece.
That’s exactly what I did, and I NEVER see a movie more than once.
Also, ‘flawless’ is a strong word, but also BEFITTING.
I've seen it 3 times in the theater. And I'm still hoping to see it another 2-3 times before it leaves. It's my favorite film of all time.
While watching this movie, not once did I think to myself "wow, thats a lot of cgi". Everything blended so well and was used when it was needed.
Yeah the quality and measured use of CGI in this really sets new standards. Not once do you even consciously notice anything as obvious CGI. It all feels just organic and enjoyably restrained.
@@axelhopfinger533he did the opposite of what a lot of cgi heavy movies do (focus the entire shot on the big cgi object with swirling drone camera) and put the humans in between us and the cgi effect. A couple of times there was a large ship crashing or sandstorm breaching the sand but the camera was focused on the actors reaction to the even or them moving through the environment. The cgi wasn’t the focus but just a tool to better the story
@@-qj6ps As it damn well should be!
Only the Harkonnen arena, the crowd seemed pretty CGI.
agreed, and the irony (?) of seeing a Furiosa preview before the movie made it all that more apparent. The Furiosa glimpse looked like someone decided to take all the real effects from fury road and turn it all entirely CGI. It looked cheap and lacking life, such a shame because Fury Road was uh-mazing.
But to further your point Dune's effects , environments and world building were borderline PERFECTION. Absolutely phenomenal use of CGI.
So refreshing to see CGI used judiciously and not overwhelming the screen at any one moment.
I feel like I noticed how much CGI is put on a pedestal in Hollywood after I saw District 9 - a movie that also uses lots of CGI but doesn't desperately want you to notice and be in awe of its use.
Watched it at an imax theater last night. Blew my mind. Great storytelling combined with awesome action.
The DP on Blade Runner 2049 said he could count on one hand the times they used green screen. DV is not screwing around and is on a one man mission to restore cinema as an artform.
@@yurimodin7333 well that is because they use sand colored walls instead and film outside why the light is outstanding
Dude, the shot of the emperors ship flying over arraken was mind blowing to me. The reflections on the ship looked real, like it actually looked like it was a real damn ship flying in how the cgi showed the cities reflection. I out loud literally said “wow”.
What blew me away was Paul entered the desert as a thin, reserved and slightly stuck up duke’s son and he returns as a dynamic, charismatic wild man. He enters the room boldly, kills his scariest opponent, and faces the group including the emperor and princess with no fear. The fact that he’s covered in sand and desert clothes while they’re clean in fancy clothes… the juxtaposition is fantastic
That scene where he faced the Fremen leaders though... goosebumps.
And he stayed a thin stuck up rich kid. Like Momoa said he didn't build up muscle. 🤣
His performance was NOT bland in Dune 1. He was a young man who had no idea what was in his future. He was an innocent, and portrayed a young, naive man who would have to MASSIVELY change his world. It was an understated, perfect portrayal.
I agree. He also seemed a lot more emotional and relatable in the scenes where he is at home (i.e. safe) - which sold the image for me.
wait till you see Dune 3, and you'll rethink the whole trajectory of where things go. I'll give you a hint: his gf.
So now you want to give him an Oscar, surely, like to Michelle Yeoh for a not more than good performance in that very entertaining but not award-worthy movie "Everything, Everyhwere"? Please. Hey, why not give Oscars to the crew of the original Ghostbusters?
@@musashimiyamoto586 I don't follow xD
Where is the anger coming from? And why should I want to give an Oscar to someone? (Apart from the fact that I don't care much about awards I don't see how that follows from simply observing that I enjoyed an actor's performance...)
@@LaNoireDetruit Well, of course you can enjoy the movie, but I would posit that the role doesn't really require any real acting skills.
I left the iMAX theater and almost got in my ship to start a bloody crusade amongst the stars.
Yeah I left the movie too like “damn I wanna do a genocide now”
Jihad. Funny how all the reviews and even book analyses call it a crusade when it was called Jihad throughout the book.
@@jrodpaul Two sides of the same coin? Truth be told. I've been playing a lot of 40K recently, it kinda bled over. lol
@@ricksanchez1079my brother said “yeah but can Paul nag at magnus” 😂
@@jrodpaul Shows the prejudice of white Western audiences. Any good war is a crusade but a bad one is a jihad. Pathetic
Dennis Villeneuve did something many critics of film thought was impossible: bringing to screen a visually complex world to life. Dune 1 and 2 is what movies should be, patience, the right actors, writing, filming on real location, not overusing CGI, eye pleasing cinematography, and an unbelievable music score.
I strongly disagree with the first few points you make. This was poor storytelling at best.
It was both sluggish and then rushed. The timing was all over the place with characters teleporting from location to location. There was also an extremely poor devopment of the relationship between Z and T, again due to the terrible handling of time.
@poiujnbvcxdswq I've read the book. They're two different things, and they're both great in their own ways. No shit a book is going to have a more detailed and complex narrative than a movie lol.
What sets a brilliant adaption apart from a mediocre one is the details in the world building. And Villeneuve has put a lot of effort into making his worldbuilding as rich and detailed as possible, which makes it believable and feel grounded in reality, even though the world itself is fantastically fictional. His visual style feels a little sterile and reductionary at times though.
@@duvetboa the movie changes the narrative totally. Denis doesn't do subtlety and it shows. He made major changes to the plot for no discernable reason other than wanting to. For example, making Keynes a woman means she can't be Chani's father. Not being her father means she isn't half offworlder herself. Her being hypercritical of Paul (which doesn't happen in the book either) would make even less sense if she was in fact half offworlder. So now you have plot alterations on top of plot alterations. It waters down the experience. Frank Herbert is not a hack like Stephen King and Denis is not a genius like Stanley Kubrick.
@@axt2 I'm sorry but it would be completely overwhelming to expect the audience to follow each and every character from the book and their entire plotline. Things need to be cut.
Name one single movie adaptation of a book that doesn't cut and prioritize certain narrative elements over others. It captures the essence of the book and the most important characters which is enough for me.
Honestly, this is what happens when an already talented director is a fan of the source material himself, gets a big budget, the freedom to direct as he wishes, the cast to match the ambition and finally, most importantly, makes a movie (or two movies, in this case) that he wants to watch himself.
I almost get teary-eyed just thinking about it.
Same. I always recall a quote by Peter Jackson from the behind the scenes of LOTR where he says that the first person he makes a film for is himself and if other people happen to like it, then that's great. Even when the studio meddles with his stuff like the botched theatrical cuts of the Hobbit films, watching the PJ preferred extended editions gives that sense of passion and dedication to the craft nonetheless. Glad to see there's still directors out there with such an outlook on filmmaking.
I respect your point of view, but I couldn’t disagree more. I found these dune movies to be in sufferably, long-winded and boring. They are an incredibly sterile form of movie making.
@@Cleveland_Rocks I won't say that you are wrong. It is a matter of taste, as always. It really appealed to me, but the fact that I was already a massive fan of the books, who have also been called long-winded and boring. So I think we should agree to disagree.
One of the things I noticed in this movie that really surprised me is that it has almost no transitions.
It goes from important place/plot point to another and lets the watcher fill in the blank.
I began noticing it towards the end where I wanted to go pee but couldn't because it was just important moment after important moment.
Yet it didn't feel rushed.
I noticed this the second time watching. I asked my boyfriend wait is his trial to survive in the desert done? It’s a montage that directly flows into him fighting with the fremen but it is such a natural progression.
I agree. I first noticed this well into the film when paul wakes up amongst a crowd of people, looks at his mother, and as soon as the camera transitioned to her it was evening already and just the 2 of them was left.
It did feel rushed to me. Really terrible pacing. It really felt like: and then this happened, and then this happened, and then this happened, and then and then and then...
@@VikingKong. Interesting. I felt a bit like that in the first film but not in the second. As someone who had no contact with Dune before these movies, the world building and character exposition was too much in too short a time for me to also feel emotionally involved. By the time I watched the second film, the world and characters were already in my mind, creating ideas and theories and connections. So I was just drawn into it and was hooked until the last second.
@@LaNoireDetruitdamn this was actually me for the first movie. Completely lost, didn’t get the hype, no huge sttachment to characters. I liked the characters though, especially momoa and Paul’s dad, the duke. And THEN, I watched the second movie and got a fuller picture. Loved it so much. Then I went down the rabbit hole and watched the 84 version, read a ridiculous amount of lore and history behind the books. And then I rewatched both movies back to back and wow
Watched it in Imax. My kids kept asking me why I didn't like it. I asked them why would you think that? They said I was so quiet and I looked upset as we were walking out and I told them naahhh fam... I'm quiet because I have no words from just watching one of the greatest cinematic masterpieces of all time. Maybe upset because I know this is the pinnacle. It doesn't get any better than this.
When Dune 2 finished in Imax... it was for like literally full 20 seconds like total silence. Like people were stunned. I absolutely had no words. I was just sitting there and trying to get my jaw from the floor. My friend asked me "whats up? Did you like it?" and I was like "ugh, mgh, ghh". Becasue no matter what I thought of saying it just wasn't enough.
Already booked ticket for second watching in Imax. Absolutely just fucking amazing.
@@honestbennyMe too, too much to digest.
Come on. This is nowhere near a "masterpiece". People have lost their mind over this film and not actually put thought into the huge gaps in the storytelling.
@@paintspot1509 Every book adaptation has gaps in storytelling. Its impossible to avoid them. Lord of the Rings trilogy also has a lot of gaps in storytelling due to books being vastly bigger than any movie could contain (it needed extended editions to close a lot of them), yet they were and always will be masterpieces as well.
Dune 1 and Dune 2 is the closest we ever got to cinematic marvelous since LoTR trilogy (though obviously LOTR is still top). Movies like that are made once per 10-20 years.
It is masterpiece as there was nothing close to that kind of cinematic and sound epic spectacle since LOTR trilogy.
100% agree Benny!@@honestbenny
I found myself, a 50 year old man, moved to tears watching this.
I saw the OG in 84 as a kid and have been a dune fan ever since.
This is quite possibly the greatest movie I’ve ever seen.
First time in a cinema then?
@@peterg9729don’t be such a pretentious asshole, people are allowed to like what they like.
@@peterg9729 Dude. Read the second line of the original comment, then reconsider your question.
What makes it the greatest movie you have ever seen, when I couldnt understand where they are really going story wise, when they wanted to kill eachother, but then in the end of the movie stand in room not that mad against eachother anymore.
Me and my partner (two guys in our 40s) full on cried during this movie. It was incredible.
As a musician, Hans Zimmer's choice for the last battle made me smile real good. When telling a story thru sound, sometimes no music is the perfect choice to wnhance the storytelling even more
The fact is that Zimmer wrote the score for the entire story. But how they edit it and where there will be music and where there won’t be is decided only by the director and sound engineer himself. Therefore, Zimmer was also interested in watching at the premiere how the director and his creative sound engineers saw his personal Arakis.
The final battle was so epic it almost had me in tears of joy and exitement. I love when the Fremen emerge from the sand at a full sprint, it just looks so awesome
something that amazed me about this movie is how HUMAN it was, especially with paul's interractions with stilgar and the fremen. especially in the first half of the movie, not everything feels doom and gloom and the characters aren't so stark. stilgar was a lot of fun in this movie
The scene at the beginning where he walks into the seitch and then the scene where he walks into the seitch at the end to rally the fremen. The contrast how everyone was dead silent this time around when he walked in, and then the speech he gives saying what some of them were thinking was absolutely phenomenal
I like that there were absolutely no jokes at times at which people would never joke. Stulgar was just a funny dude but they never broke the tension with a dumb joke.
Frank Herbert, when writing Dune, had the intention of it being very human. It’s one of the only Sci-fi works with no aliens - everyone is human of some sort.
I liked the movie but I really didn't like the first half.
It felt... bad. Like it felt like nothing interesting was happening and the story was just "bad guys are very bad".
Like the fourth time a bad guy kills a minion for no reason it gets a tad predictable and made me eye-roll.
So I felt disappointed at that point in the movie but after that it got really better. Specifically when the movie gets a sense of scale and massive war. Plus the morale compass of Paul gets a bit blurry, you aren't too sure if he's good anymore and that's what I loved.
So the movie really left a good impression on me in the end even though I can't agree with people saying "it has no flaws"
Can we all appreciate how good Javier Bardem is in this movie? He is by far the best character IMO
I was blown away by his performance. So essential to this.
my favorite glazer oat
Javier Bardem is always a W
"As it was written!"
Reminded me of Antony Quinn in Lawrence of Arabia
One of the keys to the success of Villeneuves movies is that he has a core group of guys he knows how to work with.
They're like a package deal, the editor, the composer even some of the actors
One of the subtle details I liked so much about Dune 2 was when Christopher Walken's character feigned kissing the ring. In contrast, Bautista's character put his lips to the boot and smacked.
Just shows the subtleties in how the individuals convey their dispositions despite the events.
Great acting, even though the chemistry between Paul and Chani wasnt all there.
yeah kinda hard considering zendaya is pretty committed to ole spidey
Yeah unfortunately Zendaya is the worst part of this movie. Which is all relative considering the rest of the movie is so damn good.
@@omgwat It's so fascinating what difference there is in everybody's experience. For me, Chani/Zendaya was such a crucial piece of contrapoint to the believers and his mother and portrayed perfectly. The two of them still seeming kind of apart (probably what op called not having chemistry), although in love with and respecting each other, totally made sense to me as they are culturally totally different plus the messiah thing.
@@LaNoireDetruit Thats just part of the script. I thought her acting was fairly mediocre. Is it true she has no accent becuase she couldn't do one? Someone told me this so idk the validity of it
@@johnj3027 I was also talking about her acting - I feel she portrayed the character very well. I love the way she conveys her opinion through a twitch in her face alone. I guess this is where we have different impressions.
I bet Zach Snyder is crying in some corner after watching a proper sci-fi film like Dune
I still believe he has it inside him -- the ability to make a good fun movie and he seems like a genuinely nice guy so I wish him his success but yeah.. he has a lot to learn from masterpieces like Dune 2 made by more competent storytellers.
300 was amazing. Justice League re-release was epic as well. He's come up short of the green on occasion but let's not fail to mention where he's knocked it out of the park.
300 was not amazing bro@@alanwalters8006
To be fair, probably a lot of directors are crying somewhere. What Denis Villeneuve did (as he seems to always do) is simply a Masterpiece. It is kind of unfair to compare his work to most people. He is.... from Quebec (so am I), in a sense directors who seem to not come from the Hollywood culture have a different output and ways of doing film.
I won't do his biography but to resume it briefly, Dune is a book he read when he was 14, that book made him decide to do movies. The man is literally realising his dream and he is allowed a large budget, he has the technical skill to do so and is joined by a cast of incredible and passionate people... As much as this movie will make money, it clearly was done as a passion project and it shows. Most directors do not have all these things combined (vision, dream, talent and budget) to do anything.
Zach Snyder, I think (and this will be unpopular), had his opportunity with Watchmen. His subsequent films were...lacking in some respect. Sometimes things absoluely out of his control, the end result remains the same
I bet he saw this and said to himself “ I can do that. That must be real easy. Point the camera & tell the pretty people to to scream. “
Snyder wouldn’t know a decent script if it hit him in the butt.
I saw this movie at a sold-out showing in the Pacific Science Theater in Seattle at 8 at night.
I don't think a single person stood up that entire time. Not one. No bathroom breaks, no extra popcorn, no refills. Nothing. The entire theater was lost in the movie and was only let free of its grasp when the credits rolled. I've never seen that in my life.
When I went I've never had the theater so quiet. Everyone was in complete awe.
In my theather I saw some people walking out from the movie to toilet brake and some had snacks there they ate in there. It was visually impressive movie, but very weird and slow story wise, that it was sometimes bit boring and very weird in how in the end they stand in the same room with eachother, while they were just moment ago enemies ready to kill eachother.
My Bladder was about to burst, but I was in the middle of the row and I didn't want to miss one thing. I paid for IMAX tickets.
I held my piss for half the movie arguably made the experience worse
at mine once the movie ended everyone stayed seated. for 15 seconds everyone just stared at the credits and processed.
When i went to the cinema for the first dune i just got this feeling that cinema history is happening infront of my eyes. It just feels so surreal to me that a scifi movie comparable in quality to star wars is growing right here infront of my eyes.
‘Only I Will Remain’ playing when Paul says “Bring them all to paradise…” broke me.
So much tragedy, hope, and fear in one line, underscored by Hans Zimmer’s beautiful but melancholic lament for what’s to come…
The final duel DOES have a soundtrack
Paul Atreides breathing
I noticed that, and linking it to how he loves Chani for as long as he breathes, his breath is his love song for his partner, it is the soundtrack of the fight.
huh heehhh huh heeh hah hehh ha hehh
Austin butler is becoming one of those actors that are almost chameleon like.
Method acting at its finest
like Tom Hardy
Johnny Depp 2.0
he tilda swinton'd this role and I mean that in the best way possible!
Almost like gary oldman
I think one of the reasons why it hit because we have not seen such a good movie in 5 to 10 years, especially in theaters and this just hit the spot perfectly wherever you are.
My son saw this with me and I told him that the way he described it to me was the same way I felt watching the LOTR trilogy with my dad and how he described seeing the original Star Wars trilogy with his mom.
Like, you rarely get moments where it feels like a tide is changing, but when it happens, it’s breathtaking.
This garbage didn't come close to Star Wars and Lord of The Rings. 😂😆🤣😆
Stay off the pills.
Watching Dune 2 in IMAX was almost overwhelming, especially with how loud it gets with the sand worm riding scenes. the sound design was just so good
My chest was RUMBLING
Only saw it in a nice, big Dolby Atmos theatre but i also felt my seat vibrating. The sound design is just exceptional and made for the big screen experience in these movies.
@@axelhopfinger533 I saw part one on a smaller screen cinema and I enjoyed it but didn't feel as immersed as the IMAX at my local Vue
To be fair, not everyone really wants their chest rumbling. I personally felt it was way, way, WAY too jarring in IMAX, and almost everyone I saw it with (I've seen it twice now) agreed that it was way too loud.
But it's also possible that our theater wasn't well calibrated. I'm guessing it's less a movie problem and more a theater issue
@@luxinvictus9018I've also seen it at an IMAX and I agree, when the worms appeared they shook the theater, maybe appropriately so.
Somehow the bean counters who green light movies will think they just need more sand in their future projects.
But sand is so rough, coarse, and irritating
"Bean counters" never heard that slur before.
@@maxoptende9843 it just refers to the financial people in hollywood counting the dollar bills, chasing trends, and generally minimizing risk and investment to just make the most money possible
As an analyst myself (not in film), they will absolutely take good insights out of this but mgmt will shoot it down and do what they want anyway. Happens all the time lol
What scares me is that you’re probably right.
The second half of Dune 2 had me literally on the edge of my seat the entire time. From the moment he woke up from the poison, all the way through the end of the movie. Everything was just perfect
The first time I saw it, I remember thinking the movie was short until I checked the time when the credits were rolling. Everything flowed so well that it legit felt like I'd only been in there for 90 minutes.
Chalamet's performance being underwhelming is now put into a new context of being part of a larger growth arc and it works wonders if you watch part 1 and then immediately go to the theatre for part 2
Nah his performance pretty much remains underwhelming and i'm quickly growing tired of seeing his face tbh.
@@axelhopfinger533 That's just a bad take, if you don't think he did an excellent job in part two, you might be an emotionless box.
@@bobvanka No, i think he did an ok job. Just not an outstanding one. Plus i just never really warmed up to him personally. Same with Zendaya btw. Just don't sit right with me for some reason.
@@axelhopfinger533 Chalamet displays about as much emotion as a rock. Chani has major character flaws compared to the book.
Thats what i did lol. Watched part 1 the night before then watch part 2
Went to see it twice in two days. My head is just full of Dune. No other film feels like this. Will be such a shame when you can only watch it at home, watching it on the big screen with the sound literally moving you is an experience.
I need to get back in there and see it. Asappp
I saw it at an imax last night. Mind-blowing.
Bruh. I watched it yesterday and as soon as it finished I was like, I need to watch it again in theater. I must have watched the first one 8 times already. But this one I want to watch again in theater. Such an amazing and beautiful movie.
I said the same thing about the anointing of the Sardaukar scene in the first movie. Closest we've come to 40K in film.
I watched it in 4DX and it was fire
i think after the scene in giedi prime with the strange fluid fireworks i noticed 'wow, there is no decision visually and creatively i haven't liked so far'. every visual aspect was designed perfectly, the film feels truly creative and has a lot of personality
Literally everything looks cool as fuck
i couldnt leave to go to the bathroom because i was afraid of missing something. every scene was so important
It's not in a different galaxy. Just in the future. Arrakis orbits Canopus, the second brightest star in the night sky
Heard. Your comment is appreciated. I consider myself knowledgeable on Dune, but certainly not an expert. ❤
@@steveskonntent its supposed to be in this galaxy with real stars and stuff, but the planets are made up of course since exo planets are a new thing
@@Despotic_Waffle Are they though? Hehe Truth is stranger then fiction.
This also isn't a science fiction film. The Dune series is fantasy. Taking place on a different planet doesn't make it science fiction. There's literally no real science involved in this series. You're not going to get high on spice and suddenly be able to travel through interstellar space and live longer. Yes, spice is a drug.
@@dayjeremy The Guild Navigators' dependence on Spice to travel between stars is due to it allowing them to see the destination and not hit anything when they fold space. The technology of the series is what actually does the folding.
What im hearingabout dune 2 is about what i thought about blade runner 2049 when I saw it. Best cinema experience of my life, I just think alot of people just didnt go and see it and really missed out.
I really enjoy watching Dune 2 breakdowns and perspectives from different youtubers, from hate to love, this is what PROPER pop-culture is meant to be; to be conversed about, to love and hate, to recomend to enjoy or to recommend to avoid. Its a cinematic masterpiece, irregardless that you dont enjoy its pacing, cinematography wise, it hits all the checklists. It will go down as one of the top cinema/film of this century going forward. The way Denise Villeneuve adapted this for Frank Hurbert's vision, with the same passion as Peter Jackson's of LOTR for JRR.Tolkein is a merit in itself. I never thought we'd get the stars aligning on a Sci-Fi blockbuster movie's production, seeing the debacle that is Hollywood these days. Its up there, with Oppenheimer.
Absorbed in the movie. Still on my mind days later.
I’ve been absorbed in Dune going on 20 years, once it gets in your blood it never lets go. “The mind commands the body and it obeys, the mind orders itself… and meets resistance”.
Duncan Idaho is the real main character
Can’t wait to see it again
Bro Javier was so good at his role that I literally saw no country for old man the day before I went to the theatre to watch Dune and I literally DID NOT NOTICE that it was him till I was at the credits. I legit am not kidding you didn't even notice it was him like at all.
same here! had no idea that was Anton!!
I had NO idea it was Bardem until I watched this video 😅
I recognized his voice and went, "is that Javier Bardem wtf?"
Did you watch it on CZcams? Because I saw recently it was free to watch
No country was 15 or more yrs ago also
I prefer 1985 Lynch's version, scenery and costume design was much more creative and outrageous.
The Dune films reward those who made the effort to read the book. A lot of nuance appears in `blink and you miss it` moments in the film. Superb
Yep! I felt they did a great job with the Feyd-Rautha arena scene where one of the opponents wasn’t drugged, but I feel like having read the book makes that scene so much easier to digest. Just one of those moments
I saw it and loved it. I have not only read the book I analyzed it. I am going back to see it again. I am delighted that cinematography is getting revived. Hollywood take note. This the new standard.
Didn't really experience it this way sadly. I reread the book specifically to catch those nuances but instead, I couldn't get over the things they left out or flat-out changed. Dune Part 1 might just be one of my all-time favourite movies, but Dune Part 2 is more like a good 7. I think that I might have enjoyed it more if I hadn't read the book(s).
@@NH-gq9qkI relate to this so much. I re-read the book right before watching the movie and I can't get over the feeling of missing the key touching moments from the book. The arena scene on giedi prime is a masterpiece, but the plot has been so twisted it feels like watching something completely different...
@@NH-gq9qk Agreed. While the changes to Part 1 were acceptable, the ones done to Part 2 butchered the experience for me and my dad, who's a major sci-fi reader, and devoured Dune about 10 times in his life. Most of the movie was fantastic, but in the final 30 minutes or so, book readers get hit with a bat three times. We both felt distaste at how several plots were treated, and ended up utterly disgusted with the ending.
The entire guerilla campaign reduced to under 9 months, so they didn't have to worry about casting Alia.
Drinking the Water of Life was as big of a deal, as an abstainer taking on a bottle of vodka solo.
No connection made between the worms and spice.
Irulan taken as wife, only for the Houses to refuse Paul's claim to the throne.
And lastly, what the heck is Chani's "rebellion" supposed to serve here? Who's going to give birth to Leto II and Ghanima now, Irulan? What a joke. Why would Villeneuve include this childish sulking at all is beyond me, but giving it that much focus is ludicrous. He crafted a marvelous cake, but instead of putting a cherry on top, he sprinkled it with mice droppings. Two hours of awe decapitated with this folly of his.
A lot of people today will skip the theater and wait for a movie to come out on Netflix. But with releases like Oppenheimer, Godzilla Minus One, and now Dune 2, my faith in the movie going experience is being restored! Blockbusters that are made FOR the theater with their massive scale, not just another Marvel movie that's "shot on IMAX" but instead movies filmed FOR the biggest screens with purpose. I'm so happy lol
Oppenheimer sucked😂
What has the world come to when a godzilla film is considered great cinema.
I won't ever watch another Nolan movie in a theater. I have to assume he is hearing impaired, because any other interpretation of his sound engineering just means he is a jerk at best. The bad sound mixing started in the Batman films, and just keeps getting worse. I asked for my money back 10 minutes into Dunkirk.
Paul walking into the Fremen leaders reunion scene felt amazing, just watching the transformation of the character from a frail apprentice into this powerful feet stomping leader had my brain tickling
Loved all your points, especially the fact that this is hitting you in a particular time and place. I’m also a dude who watched LOTR, and Harry Potter, as they were coming out, but was a bit too young to really savor them, and then saw the lesser subsequent films and whatnot when I was older. Dune feels particularly good because I feel like I’m seeing it when it’s most relevant AND when I’m most primed to understand and enjoy it.
that last 45 minutes is siglehandedly the best switch up in a character ive ever seen on film even moreso then anakin in the prequels. its just hit SO HARD and really got you amped tf up
Dude, I gotta hand it to Timmy. I did not think he'd nail Muad'Dib as well as he did. By the end of the movie, I wanted to go fight a galactic jihad for him.
Fr me either but that shit got me so hyped at the end @@jhinpotion9230
I genuinely don't believe any one of the star wars movies from any of the three trilogies can even be compared to Dune Part 2, it genuinely tops that whole franchise, and this is coming from a star wars fan
@@Crudulence wild take. Dune 2 was a bit of a mess story telling wise. Sure, it looks nice though.
@@Crudulence agreed
I walked out of the theater ready to die for Arrakis
omg. fuck yes. same!!!
I turned to my friends right after it ended and said, “well, I think that’s the best sci fi action movie I’ve ever seen”. What a feeling! The whole movie I was in this surreal state of holy shit I’m watching The Best for the first time
The fact that nearly every actor took a pay cut just to be apart of this film shows how good it is.
I'm old enough to remember this feeling when the original Star Wars movies came out in the 70's and 80's. Watching these two films with my son, who's now an adult, and discussing their themes, nuances, and implications, has been amazing!
You really hit the nail on the head for me when you pointed out we're witnessing this AS ADULTS and it's pretty amazing to be part of this knowing it's not an epic just because it's nostalgic. It's epic because IT IS, because right now it's already a masterpiece and probably is that in all parts of it: sound, cinematography, production design, acting... it's just the blockbuster we've waited so long for. So mature and complex and Im at an age when I can appreciate all of it.
I'm sorry, but in no way was the acting in this film that of a "masterpiece". At the very least it was severely lacking in chemistry between the lead characters and i am not sure what film Christopher Walkins thought he was meant to be in.
It was a beautiful film but a long way from a masterpiece.
Now you know what we felt when we saw LOTR, Matrix or even Interstellar on the cinemas.
You know when you see a classic, time doesn't need to pass by.
It's funny because, for me, I've been an adult for basically everything referenced in this video and I think it misses some really important works. First, anyone who saw The Matrix in theaters knew that it would forever change filmmaking. The sequels were nothing to write home about, but that first movie was transformative. Second, Mad Max Fury Road is such a perfect encapsulation of a visionary director taking his time to put together a perfect film that achieves his vision. I don't know that Villeneuve gets to make Dune without Fury Road showing that an on-location, practical effects-laden "genre flick" could garner modern mainstream success. And as poorly some people speak about the Star Wars sequels and the MCU, I think it is important to acknowledge that these mass market IPs used to be *incredibly* niche nerd IPs, but their success at the box office allowed the money people to take a chance on something like Dune.
This is the first time I had to see a movie twice on IMAX. One of the greatest movies ever. One of the things you did not adress is the sound design and Zimmer's soundtrack - mind blowing
You narrated this video so well. Thank you.
Honestly Javier’s performance just stayed with me the most after the movie. He really sold it as a believer that it just made everything else work and build up even more. I really hope he gets his flowers for this movie. He made the character so special. The second time I watched it with a crowd that laughed at all his parts. It was really fun and an exciting joy whenever he was on the screen.
I’m not exaggerating when I say this is the best movie I have ever seen. I have never been so engaged in a story. The runtime was close to 3 hours, but if you had asked me to guess how long I had been watching before the last scene I would have guessed about an hour and a half. I was shocked when it ended because I couldn’t believe 2 hours and 45 minutes had gone by so quickly
Look I agree that Dune 2 did a good job of not feeling like a 3 hour movie, but if it's honestly the best movie you've seen then you've got a lot of catching up to do.
@@AllUpOns Just my two cents: At the end of the day, it is subjective to each person whether they believe a film is the best film they have ever seen. And, I mean, Dune Part II is not a bad choice for that. I do, however, agree with the sentiment that there are many great films to watch, and further viewing could, perhaps, change their mind. At the end of the day, I strongly believe that people should be allowed to express grand statement like "This is the best movie I have ever seen."
@@tWobithoboafter all it’s not entirely subjective. No shame in liking a bad movie but people also should be allowed to say that one’s opinion sometimes is more or less educated/sophisticated. I mean how do you react to a kid that says baby shark is the best piece of music he’s heard?
@@AllUpOnsI’ve seen Tarkovsky, Bergman, Kubrick and Kurosawa’s filmography, among most of the basic other ones as well (Scorsese, Nolan, Tarantino, etc). It immediately became my favourite film as well, even after a second viewing. Now I’m not saying it’s the greatest film I’ve ever seen by any means, but it definitely moved me the most for some reason and it’s my favourite. People are allowed to enjoy different things.
Theater here was showing Dune Marathon, I was glued the entire time, I hope they do full marathon when Dune 3 comes out
I literally didn’t even realize the score cut out at the end during the duel until you pointed it out.
Villeneuve and Nolan are truly masters of film. I hope to see much much more of them both
Didn't feel an ounce of boredom the entire film, was literally on the edge of my seat till the end
It's a lot happening all throughout, was just a bit disappointed by the ending.
You were at the edge of your seat when chani was asking Paul about his wittle nightmares 👉👈🥺??
@@arieltorresiii I was. But only because i had to stretch my back and shake my leg which was going a bit numb.
The hand-to-hand combat in Dune 2 looks SO REAL! The gymnastics/jujitsu/ninja - fighting to kill is so convincing.
No, it was bad. It reminded my of the terrible fight choreography in the Nolan Batman films.
When Paul did that crazy spinning jump (idk what's it called professionally) when fighting Feyd I literally gasped
@@ignacydrozdowicz8107 I lol at his scrawny body trying to move fast in that terrible costume. You cannot even tell what happened to conclude the fight, how Feyd got stabbed.
@@AnEvolvingApe how Feyd got stabbed is intentionally hidden for the drama. You see Feyd's reaction before you see the knife. The stab sound even coincide with when Feyd stab Paul's shoulder.
@@marverickmercer1968 yeah that was poor cinema to hide the action like that since they had no clear idea on how to make it look realistic.
Give the Director the respect he deserves by pronouncing his surname correctly, it’s like villnuve but obviously spelled differently
Loved this movie. Have been waiting for an adaptation that was this good since I read the book a couple decades ago. I am also really glad that Villenueve tried pretty hard to communicate the message that Herbert was trying to convey in the book, and worked that message into the relationship Paul and Chani had.
I marvel how the film in some ways feels like an arthouse piece yet its so epic and massively budgeted. Incredible.
Perfect description!
Watched it in IMAX and was blown away. As a fan of the books i think this is the best possible adaptation.
Same!! It’s so refreshing to not have a director try to “leave their mark” by changing important moments in the story. And now one would argue that Denis has left a greater mark than any other adapter!
@@steveskonntenthe changed quiet a lot lol
@@nicokiewski2747 Yes, its not 100% book accurate but a VERY good adaptation. There is a great interview from DV talking about how Herbert felt readers were missing the cautionary tale element so he wrote Messiah. DV didn't want audiences to miss the cautionary tale theme so he adapted Chani to highlight it.
@@nicokiewski2747 yes he did, but he told the important part of the story excruciatingly well.
@@steveskonntent as others said, he changed quite a lot, especially about part 2. In the books, the South was actually hiding _something big_ which was totally gotten rid of in the movie. I think Dune The Movie and Dune The Book are almost two different stories but Villanueve stayed so faithful to the themes and arguably *improved* aspects of the book in its adaptation. Chani is like a *much* better character in the movie than in the book. The character development in general is better in the movie than in the book. The thing the movies lacked that I wish they explained was all the backstory and the real political intrigue going on, because in ways, it makes the emperor look worse than even Baron Harkonnen. It also makes Leto I look much sharper than he was given credit for in the movie, the imperium just moved faster and in greater force than a reasonable person imagined.
Your review made me so happy! And yeah, I need to have a second screening today!
I'm still moved days after watching this. Really strong heartbreak and loss. Incredible soundtrack.
One of the most beautiful and stunning movies I ever saw
So amazing.
Absolutely amazing and a masterpiece
@@brysonfreeman7226 The term "Masterpiece" is used to often these days. I wouldn't call this a "Masterpiece" .. I was kinda boring.
Saw this at a Dolby Atmos theater. Absolutely blown away with the sound the entire film. And the Oscar for best sound goes to….Yes! Dune part 2
We saw it Dolby Cinema and 70mm IMAX, 4D, and OmnIMAX later this week.
Same. Could really feel my seat vibrate and the shots and explosions were nice punches to the chest. The Dune sound design alone justifies the existence of big screen theaters in the current decade because it adds so much to the experience you just cannot replicate except with a top of the line audiophile home theater setup.
This is how the original 80s film felt when it first came out. It’s great when directors follow the book material and actors are able to have reign over the characters in that scope.
Dang it. I told myself I wasn’t gonna cry. Fuuuuh. I’m happy for you, sad to see you go, but excited for the change because, it’s part of life. Thanks Matt Pat.
I love the story behind why the Geidi Prime scenes were shot in infra-red. You might think it was an artistic choice, or just Denis being a weird auteur, but no.
He told the studio he wanted to do Geidi Prime in black and white, but he didn't trust the studio not to meddle and moan about it, so he refused to shoot the scenes in colour with the intention of removing the colour later, it HAD to be infra-red to ensure nobody was EVER going to be able to colourise it with any kind of accuracy. He said the studio signed off on it in blood, but they signed off on it, so clearly they weren;t happy about it even then, so it was probably a wise choice.
Damn I love this detail. Thanks for sharing!!
I just watched an interview with Denis and he stated that it was an artistic choice. Human beings look strange and different when captured in IR. Our skin looks ghostly (milky and translucent in his words), our eyes seem to be cast in permanent shadow. It’s an unsettling but very cool effect!
There is the added bonus that it’s impossible to add color back.
Yes, no movie has ever been colorized after the fact, ever. @@knightoflambda
@@PDXNTV colorization of b&w or IR film is inherently guesswork. the color data doesn't exist. it's also a much more difficult process involving a lot of manual work.
that's what denis is talking about. colorization of the IR shot scenes isn't improssible, just very impractical.
@@PDXNTVyou miss the point, you won’t be able to just add color back because the black and white image is capturing light not part of the visible spectrum. It is seeing things we can’t see with a normal camera, and not seeing things we can.
If you added color back, it would be an unnatural mess. And would not match other parts of the film.
"Here is what viewers deserve. Here is the standard." Very well said, sir.
Can we say this loud enough for Disney to hear?
I loved both Dune movies - I’ve read the books and there’s so much more that could have been included but I’m not convinced would have as movies made them better.
The only true way to do justice to the book is to have a television series that’s GoT esque in budget, scale and episode length.
Critics of the movies espouse a lot of “whataboutism” but for me, if I consume media I judge it on how that media made me feel rather than critique it to death on the finest margins. I watched Dune and it blew me away, both movies. Every shot, every sound, it was all magnificent.
Just got out of the theater in a small town the theater was packed! About the TikTok aspect I’ve seen plenty of edits about the movie and I feel like that is also persuading a lot of younger audiences to flock to the theaters to see this masterpiece.
Dune part 2 is the first film, in over a decade, that I’ve watched then immediately gone back to the kiosk and booked another screening.
It’s a complete understatement to say that it is a masterpiece, as even the word ‘masterpiece’ does not do it justice.
This really sets the bar high for future high budget movies and I know full well, I’ll be comparing every future release of a movie to this one.
In the "behind the scenes" one of the sound editors said (about the first part): "and then we thought: the sounds won't be foley sounds" - this sentence describes both films perfectly for me. Because it's not just the sound that shows this approach in both films: it's the suit that isn't CGI, the desert, the sounds, the costumes, the visual style and camera editing. In these films, the right people at the right time have created a masterpiece.
Well said.
Great video. I loved your storytelling through this and as a fellow creative I love what you have to say about this incredible film. I absolutely love this movie and everything about it!
Highest praise I can give the film is that it made me feel similar to when I watched the two towers and return of the king for the first time, shit had me emotional in the theatre purely from how epic it was
Seeing this in IMAX was such an experience. I’ll never forget it.
Saw it in 4DX it was fire
Saw it in HDTS CAM shit was fire
First film I have ever paid to see it twice. Simply stunning. Please watch this in at the cinema, a laptop will not do it justice!
You're right. Watching it on my phone was a better experience.
I'm only joking, lol. I'm seeing it for a third time this weekend
Something incredible happened as I watched this film and that is that I utterly forgot these people are actors emoting and reciting lines; that’s how immersive it was. A modern masterpiece.
I do not know a movie I have been this excited about since Iron Man 1. The movie is so good, I did not know movies could be that good. The quality, the pacing, I mean the superb Pacing is incredible. The action scenes are so well done its amazing. Every explosion has a purpose, every fight feels well weighted and necessary.
The movie felt like watching the universe being created. Deep, heavy…and the sound design was exquisite!
I KNOW I'm so out of the loop with social media because the only promo I've seen for this movie are billboards LMAO
Said everything I was thinking. Great video!
I remember when I read this book shortly after Star wars IV came out discussing with my buddy how impossible an actual movie of this would be. It is 50% narration and thought. I didn't realize the job Timothy had done until he was near the end of the movie and such an evolved character then at the start. But the woman who played Chani was breathtaking. How to play a tough, smart, deadly ninja female soldier and it is not only not nauseating but compelling, thrilling. What a performance. The director and screen writers are kind of ridiculous.
Zendaya
She acted like an angry child throughout the whole movie.
she was great@@paintspot1509
When I saw the final duel I noticed there wasn't any score in the background and I was so happy about that decision it felt incredibly right for that moment
I found myself holding my breath during that scene.
It's so true, you really *feel* what happens on screen. It's so good.
As a fight choreographer, I loved that there was no score for that final fight. To often on stage and film music is used to communicate the emotions of a fight, but fights are stories, they can speak for themselves, especially when the stakes are that high, and when you can have the control of focus that camera provides.
I went and saw it while on about a gram of mushrooms and it was truly something special. The worm riding scene alone felt larger than life and I wasn't even getting visuals. I got the heightened sense of euphoria that made me feel as if I was getting a face full of spice myself
I don't know if you can truly say it "changed cinema overnight," but it certainly raised the bar regarding cinematography for "tent pole" films. It also re-affirmed to me how important the fundamentals are. An excellent set rather than unlimited CGI, a plot that ultimately focuses on character rather than relying too heavily on action, and strong performances typically equal a good film. Add in a well-done translation of a legendary story that has compelled readers for generations, and you've got a huge success.
I feel those fundamentals were hugely lacking in dune.
@@paintspot1509 I also feel that about you.
I went and saw this last night with my brother and nephews in IMAX. HOLY CRAP! We have seen movies together. But this movie was carried home with us the whole way. The entire 30 minute drive home, we talked about the film, the future of the saga, the meanings we each picked up individually. What's weird, is we all picked up something different. The only consensus we all had that was the same is that it was an incredible film and are so very looking forward to part 3. Only recommendation I can give to anyone who is going to see this film, PLEASE choose a theatre that has an amazing surround sound array. I am not sure what they used for audio in the theatre, but sometimes it was hard to breathe with how intense and immersed I was in sound and picture. I definitely want to go see this again!
If you could quickly summarize what each person took away from the movie?
My takeaway theme was the religious one, as in the question of whether the prophecy is real or not within the story. Just like in real life it's up to the viewer to either believe or not to believe and the way that was setup was nice
I can only imagine the happiness that Oscar Isaac was feeling in terms of his recent experiences in playing in science fiction movies.
To go from "Somehow, Palpatine returns" to being in the Dune franchise must have felt night and day in terms of the quality of the execution. And I'm saying this as a longtime Star Wars fan.
I just saw it for the first time last night and the more I think about it the more I realize how much I loved that film! Part 1 came out about a month after I finished reading the book and was an amazing experience, but part 2 has surpassed it in every way for me. The cinematography, the score, the action, everything was simply incredible and I had chills the whole time. Part 2 has landed solidly in my top 3 movies of all time, and I can't WAIT to watch it again!
I heard many people (including my roommate, with whom I watched it yesterday) call it the "Lord of the Rings" of our generation. My roommate, who has read all the Dune books, knows what a huge LotR nerd I am so he wouldn't say it lightly but I think I agree with him. LotR is still near and dear to my heart because I grew up with the books and movies but I do believe that Dune is on par with Peter Jackson's trilogy. Denis Villeneuve knows how to use pictures, above all else, to tell a story in a way that makes you emotionally connect with it. I am definitely going to read the books now, as soon as I have a little more time in my life.
The story line’s depths are for more complex in dune. Let me know if you feel differently, but I’ve felt that lord of the rings appeals only to white folks who were raised with too many comforts. Dune dissects the human desire for control so excellently nothing else could compare, especially hobbit folk.
It's the original star wars trilogy of our lifetime. I never had a desire to watch lotr trilogy, but I've already seen dune 2 three times in the theater.
@@shanerooney4604 I am not talking about similarity in story, but cultural impact. Like Lord of the Rings, the Dune books had a massive influence on the trajectory of their genre. While Tolkien essentially created the fantasy genre as we know it today, Herbert's books shaped science fiction in a massive way. Although George Lucas denies it, he obviously took massive inspiration from Dune, as did Games Workshop in its creation of Warhammer 40k.
Similarly, the film adaptations of Lord of the Rings shaped cinema, especially in this genre. The Game of Thrones show was clearly shot with Lord of the Rings in mind, as were (to a lesser extent) Gore Verbinski's Pirate movies. You can see the difference between fantasy movies before and after Lord of the Rings.
While Star Wars and (to a lesser extent) Star Trek have been the benchmarks for science fiction filmography for the last 50 years, I expect Dune to substitute them in this role. Not only because these movies are getting big numbers at the box office, but because they are just better movies than Star Wars. I like George Lucas and the stories he brought to life, but I'm sorry to say that he is just not a good filmmaker compared to people like Chris Nolan, Steven Spielberg or, you know, Denis Villeneuve.
@@kevineckelkamp The fact that you personally have never seen LotR doesn't mean it didn't have massive cultural impact. Like, objectively, Lord of the Rings was THE movie event of the early 2000s. RotK was the 2nd highest grossing film of all time after Titanic when theater screenings stopped. Also, fantasy filmmaking changed massively after LotR came out. Directors like Gore Verbinski, the Narnia makers and also David Yates, who made the later Harry Potter movies, drew inspiration from LotR. Game of Thrones, which in itself was THE show of the 2010s, based a lot of its cinematographic choices on Peter Jackson's movies, from costume design to shot framing to the way characters are introduced. If you compare pre-LotR fantasy to post-LotR movies, you can clearly see the massive shift.
This is what I expect Dune to do. I think we will see a massive shift in the way science fiction is portrayed on screen. We might even see more science fiction books made into movies, with Dune as the template for the cinematographic realization. Up until now, Star Wars has been the benchmark for science fiction, which focused mostly on visual spectacle embedded in a rather simple, but powerful story. Dune is kind of the opposite: There is less visual spectacle (no big, CGI-driven space battles, fight choreography is less elaborate and, in a way, more brutal and straight to the point), but the narrative is more complex and multi-layered. I expect science fiction to make a shift to that direction. Especially because I think that after Disney's takeover of the Star Wars universe, many people are tired of them rehashing the same science fiction template over and over again. Dune offers something new, and people seem to thoroughly enjoy it.
@@shanerooney4604I feel the opposite. Dune 2 as a film was pretty shallow and the plot armor was to obvious.