Dune Part 2 is a Monumental Achievement
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- čas přidán 29. 02. 2024
- From minute 0 to 2 hours and 46 minutes, this is one of the most unforgettable theater experiences that you will ever have. It is nothing short of jaw dropping, and it deserves to be seen in theaters.
- Krátké a kreslené filmy
We can start to heal from Disney’s Star Wars. We have dune now
Dune part 2 is like a gigantic palate cleanser. Just saw it and it just obliterated my memory of mediocre Star Wars.
Thank you for this comment
Yes, hope has become reality
These movies are NOT Dune…. DUNE is a 34,000 year timeline with 6 main books and 17 more in the full Universe. These are cool for Hollywood though.
@@NRG2 I did not read the books, but both Dune movies are only about the first book as far as I know. What is the time line of that book? Serious question, just too lazy to Google it.
Never hand the dune universe to disney for gods sake
That’s exactly what will happen happen to Dune even without Disney
Villeneuve wants to make Dune Messiah and then stop. But looking at the current studio/movie market, the studio won't stop. These two movies were incredibly successful, made a lot of money and built a big fanbase. They. Will. Milk. Dune. Dry. They will not stop making Dune movies until its not profitable anymore and looking at Marvel or Star Wars, that won't be until long after the movies have become utter trash.
This isn't doomerism or something. My advice is to stay with it as long as it brings you joy and then jump off.
"Arrakis teaches the attitude of the knife. If something is incomplete, cut it off and say: Now it is complete. Because it ended here.
-Princess Irulan"
@@tomitiustritus6672man i really hope that isnt true tbh. Hopefully we get 1-2 movies and thats it
@@Vkiller711 We were all hoping the MCU would stop/take a break after Endgame and look at it now...
@@concept5631 yeah i was just talking about it the other day, what they did to the mcu is beyond depressing
The ending of the movie was insane. The movie ended and the audience just sat there, completely silent. One of my fave theater experiences I've had
same as mine, usually people would already got up and left, this time ppl just sat through the credit roll, at least half of the credit
I had the misfortune to sit next to a pack of rowdy hipsters. Dudes were cheering at every epic moment like they were at a sports game. Told them to shut up but they were drunk.
Going to see it a few more times but damn. Envious of a quiet theater lol
Same here. Most people remained silent in their seats, taking a deep breath.
Same here :) Most of the audience were probably waiting for a happy ending in which the good guy avenges his father, gets the girl and the throne. But then they got the girl riding a worm as far away as she can get from the "good guy" whose last line was an incredibly loaded "show them paradise". How many genocides in our history started from that line?
Just got out of the theater in china. Same experience
You gotta be tik tok brained the fuck out to find Dune part 1 slow
i overheard kids discuss the movie yesterday on the tram after we all came out of it. gen-z is fucked in terms of attention spans, at least those guys were... they asked stupid questions, had the patience and memory of a fly and clearly had NOT read the books before judging from basic questions that in theory are even answered in film or alluded to, but thinking is not the strong suit of those types. they need a wikipedia article to accompany anything, otherwise you would have to "work" or "think" and who wants that, right? actually this is why i dislike going to the movies sometimes, one guy behind me was laughing, moving his position every 2 seconds, it is NOT good movie watching with people who are more on their phones or disturb the general audiences experience than enjoying and immersing themselves in a movie. I totally understand people who build their own home movie systems, although there is nothing like IMAX in terms of visuals and audio in your home. just not reproducable.
Eh I find it slow for the purpose of world building which is extremely forgivable. Even then, every scene held weight
Bro even fans of the franchise thought it was slow . Stop being an idiot
@@Luemm3lof course they aren’t gonna read the book before . Part 1 dragged get over it softie
@@dox8148thank you someone with a brain actually showed up
That moment where Paul refuses to duel Stilgar and gets everyone super angry, but with just a few sentences has everyone on their knees in devotion... God damn.
That was a scene unlike anything I've ever seen.
For a moment, I felt like one of the Fremen, sitting in that temple, suddenly realizing that there is a god among us.
It's such a mindf*ck, because while we all know Dune is a cautionary tale about messianic figures, the film doesn't just tell you. No... It shows you by taking you along for the ride. You feel the herd mentality kick in. Paul is a very inspiring and devoted leader, but at the same time is deeply flawed, driven to a large degree by hate and revenge.
You know he is not supposed to be a hero, but it damn sure feels like he is one. You know where the path leads, but you still want him to win.
It's surreal to feel for yourself how easily you can get caught off guard and be swept away in the absolute power trip of such a character. It took me a second to figure out what was even happening and snap out of it.
My hat goes off to Villeneuve. He is a master.
that scene was the absolute peak of the movie imho, still gives me goosebumps thinking about it
On the contrary, many of their customs and traditions apply to him. And Chani's real name being "Desert Spring" is even a part of the prophecy. Desert Spring, aka his beloved Chani, actually saves Paul's life after he takes the Water of Life - "as written" as Stilgar has become wont to say.
i got so much chills. when he called out the nightmare of the old fremen leader. it said so much about the poetic struggle of this hardened people and paul the complete accumulation of that struggle and desperation across generations.
among us??
Loved this scene so much. Goosebumps all over. I was ready to lay down my life for Paul and follow him to the end.
The "Black & White" was filmed in Infrared, bro. That's why it has that "look" that doesn't actually look b&w.
The shot of the bene Gesserit in all black, walking into the black sunlight turning their garb stark white was mesmerizing.
It inverts colour and minimised contrast as in virtually no greys.
thanks, bro
I came here to say exactly this. Bravo.
Calm down.
In a time where some smoothbrains think AI will be the future of filmmaking, Villneuve brought us the ultimate example of what human creativity and skill can accomplish. I bloody love this movie
Have you seen Sora ai and Devin ai? We progressed that far in just a years time. And if we progressed that fast without quantum computing, when quantum computing comes into play it will be irrefutable that ai will take over Hollywood as well as most jobs across the world
They used AI to track fremen eyes and give them their blue color in part 2
@@user-xz6ig6ye2u I heard that, but I think that’s acceptable rather than letting AI write or make the movies
Love how on brand it is for dune in particular
Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of the human brain
Timothée Chalamet’s performance in “The King” showcased his exceptional talent, and his role as Paul in dune has elevated him to the status of a Hollywood megastar.
I was thinking this same thing when Chalamet was cast as Paul. I loved his performance in The King and his "Make it England" speech made it obvious that he was going to bring the fire in his role as Paul.
Once I saw Beautiful Boy, I knew Timothy had some real acting skills. Incredible movie if you haven't seen it.
You're just kidding, right? 🤣
Paul is what Lucas was trying to create with Anakin.
Excellent comparison. Paul isn't Luke. He's Anakin.
Absolutely. And failing at that.
And Leto II is the opposite of Luke
@@guillermoandresramirezvera2899 Yeah, clearly Luke is not a Dune character.
Sadly yes. I am a huge Star Wars fan ever since I was four and I will always be. But Anakin in the prequels is not handled very well and certainly not as well as Paul Atreides.
For anyone looking for a better version of Anakin’s fall, I recommend the Revenge of the Sith novelisation. It can’t fix everything (certainly not Padmé) but Anakin’s journey is WAAAAY better and more understandable there than in the film.
The final confrontation between Freyd and Muad’Dib at the end, the film was silent, and the theater was silent, and it was a awesome experience.
I know right, it was the same for my theatre. You could hear a pin drop in that scene. Best scene in the movie IMO
Only part the audience made noise for was when Paul stopped the knife with his hand, audience was groaning hahaha. Truly such a fun experience in the theater
@@BaebyBear23 Only time for me was when Paul screamed "SILENCE!" the gasp from the audience was awesome, and exactly how I imagined.
That’s because your theater probably fell asleep .
The Theater was silent during the movie where you're supposed to be silent?
This was one of my only cinematic experiences where you can actually hear the entire audience gasp on multiple occasions
The theater I went to was packed and nobody gasped, applauded, everyone was so ready to go at the end there was practically a stampede.
@@malcadorsad :(
I watched yesterday on a IMAX packed theater, and it was silent in 98% of the time. Almost no one was taking Stilgar seriously; there was mild giggles most of the times he was "Lisan Al-Gaib!" to Paul every time he does/says something 😅.
Beyond that, I just could hear exciting whispers during some badass moments 🤗😁.
I think they were yawning
I only fell asleep once.
I have never, in my 51 times around the Sun, seen anything taken to such perfection before.
Almost makes me wish I could bring myself to watch it
We should have seen more of the final battle. Paul teleports to the throne room. Plus Josh Brolin and Dave Bautista didn't get to have a good fight. A single stab was dissapointing after building up too their conflict.
@@1Chasg Loved it but your points are well made. Gurney getting his revenge, should have had at least a bit more of a fight with Rabban. And totally agree with the end fight, there wasn't much to it. The Sardaukar are such badasses I think showing them put up a good fight would have been worth it, and something to show why the Emperor couldn't escape or why he chose to stay.
why wouldn't you watch it?@@Johnston212
You never watched lord of the rings in theaters? Damn you missed out dude
Not gonna lie, I wasn't expecting Princess Peach as a magical fetus in this space desert movie.
In the book shes a 2 yr old with the awareness and life experience of a 1000 reverend mothers, but i understand thatd be damn near impossible to put on film and not have it be either completely unbelievable or entirely too wacky. Not everything that works in text can work in a visual medium so i liked the change
Just wait until the next one, where a circus dwarf sings to a zombie until it tries to kill its old boss who was blinded by a nuclear bomb but he's saved by his baby
@@BongoBagginsWhat drugs did Herbert take when writing the novels
@@ajmerthethy6724 Yes
@@ajmerthethy6724 cocaine and the boundless light of Allah
So the Geidi Prime sequence was shot on infrafred film. This gives the extreme contrast of black and white that we see in the outdoor settings on the planet. Villeneuve actually described this as a big decision they had to commit to, because by shooting it this way, they could not go back and add color or saturation in post. And you are right. It is not a purely stylistic choice, but one informed by Giedi Prime having a black sun, so even this decision is born from the world of the Dune universe.
In part 1 do they have geidi prime shots?
@@eobias there's at least one outdoor shot but it looks to be at night or overcast.
@@eobias Yes but only at night so no sunlight and it looks normal then.
It was an incredible choice. It made it feel like they'd filmed for color but the characters were truly bleach white.
The Black Sun is actually an addition to the lore. It was not in the books. Very cool idea though.
This was one of the rare movies that felt as epic and thrilling as the trailer for the whole runtime.
Truly what Disney star wars should have been.
Disney star wars wished it could be a fraction of what Dune is
It's amazing what you can create when you have a plan for your overall story, Disney should take note.
All Disney Wars had to be was some actual Star Wars. Nobody needed it to be a Dune level epic. In fact since the sequels take place after Luke BROUGHT PEACE TO THE GALAXY they should have told smaller, more local stories. That would have made sense, but then Disney are the House Harkonnen of corporations since some time after Pirates of the Caribbean (great movie) and before TFA (trash). For me the point Disney turned into a warning label was "The Avengers". the individual Marvel movies were pretty good until that point and then Avengers just felt soulless. I don't understand how everyone looked past that at the time. how did the masses get pulled into a story with so obviously no stakes where the writers can just pull whatever they want at any time? the same "anything goes, who cares about the plot?" attitude infects everything Disney does. the writers they employ nowadays frankly just seem a bit dim and superficial. I don't even think they do it on purpose any more.
The scene when Paul gives his speech underground around the millions of fremen was one of the most powerful scenes I have ever witnessed.
Chamalet is cringe lol so boyish looking...he did well tho nonetheless
Alia owns her role as the Awakened Embryo.
😂 her acting was on point
Truly embodied the character
😂😂😂 this killed me
An embryo that can communicate had my brain leaking out of my ears.. I couldn't believe the sheer imagination to bring this idea to the screen.
@@primevil110872an embryo with multiple personalities 😂😂
Dune 1 set the scene and explained the story and the Dune 2 exploded in a cinematic masterpiece.
Dune 1 walked so that Dune 2 could run
@@Entertainment720_ Dune 1 walked so Dune 2 could become an engineer and build a rocket to reach the Moon
@@concept5631 You right lol
You put it so well.. This movie DRAINED me. Like waking up from a nightmare where you just need to sit and think for an hour or so, and then you're just walking around in some sort of daze for the rest of the day. Going through the motions but really being empty inside with your thoughts racing at the same time.
I literally asked my wife if she also felt physically exhausted when we walked out of the theater! I’ve never had that in my entire life. This is art.
Couldn't have said it better myself
I went home in silence and laid on the floor for a couple of hours. Felt completely over stimulated. Cant wait to see it again
Wut lmao you guys are edging to this movie like crazy
Denis Villeneuve just solidified himself as one of the best filmmakers in the modern era
He did way before wtf
It's better than the entire Star Wars.
Of course it is... we're talking about an amazing adaptation of one of, if not the, best sci-fi novels of all time.
And considering Star Wars borrowed heavily from Dune, that statement will remain true.
@@Kllnmesmllz Dune is going to be game changer sooner or later.
LOL, The Last Jedi is 100x better than this convoluted slog !!!
@@chasx7062 🤣🤣jedi looks like the daddy'e old jokes no one asked for!
Dune 2 is not a sequel. It's the 2nd part of the same movie. It's like New Hope being cut in half. Excellent film.
So Two Towers and Return of the King are not sequels either?
@@DoctorJammer those are 2 separate books. Dune is one book.
@@cpaek72 No. They part of the same book... called Lord of the Rings. There is only one book, two if you include the Hobit.
mindblown@@DoctorJammer
@@user-fx5cd4px3klotr are separate books published at separate times.
It's so so so refreshing to see the main character of a big blockbuster be the most interesting character again. Since the Nolan Batman movies up to the latest movie of equal proportion and success probably being Avengers: Infinity War and Endgame, it's really been a mountain to climb to have the protagonist be the most engaging and fleshed out character of a big budget movie like this. And it's even more refreshing that the antagonist IS still very very good, but Paul is just so multidimensional and it feels heartbreaking to watch the person we relate to slip away into a destined path and become a person we cannot relate to. That's why Chani's change from book to movie is so needed, because she is our surrogate. We want to love Paul Atreides, but not Emperor of the Universe "show them paradise" Paul Atreides
Paul has done nothing wrong. I'm all for Emperor Paul
@@Steak514 More meat shields for the space jihad.
He didn’t have a choice almost. Fathers revenge or use the hope to do conquer and lose control later.
@@Steak514 Look who fell for the charismatic leader.
@@floppavevo5920 "No you can't heckin fight back, you must accept your people being enslaved, otherwise you're an extremist!"
That scene where Paul Atreides Goes Full Dark Tyrant was palatable. Everyone in the theater 🎭 felt it.
Palpable.
Palpatine.
@@PedroTorres-ky2yx this reminds me of of the college kids who don’t know how to spell that keep posting “Free Palpatine” (they mean Palestine).
I know exactly what moment you are referring to, when Paul went full on megalomaniac, it was like, "Whooa"
Well, Paul is also trying to keep from being turned into shish-ka-bob by hundreds of warriors there suddenly intent on silencing his "blasphemous" tongue. Paul had no choice but to forcefully press on and impress upon them that he is the ONE - with deep knowledge of their lives, their loved ones, their very bloodlines. Again - he has to make them believe, at that point, to keep from being seriously hurt or killed by the suddenly (perhaps justifiably) outraged room.
Paul, in the film, is also sincerely regretful about "leaving" Chani. Though in the book he stays with both Chani AND the Princess, and she (Chani) becomes his long-term concubine just as Paul's mother, THE Reverend Mother, had been the long-term concubine for his father, Duke Leto. Chani is the mother of Paul's children. The Princess is mainly window dressing. Sad. In the book, Chani acquiesces and just believes in Paul as Messiah and continues to stay in a relationship with him even AS he marries the Princess! It's interesting that Denis, as a writer, has Chani have enough self-respect, dignity, and complexity to walk out - and to "waste her water" in that terribly sad, heart-in-your-throat, riveting last viewing of her in DUNE: PART 2 - at least at first.
Perhaps Chani is pulled back into Paul's life later because of the aforementioned child of Paul she may already be carrying and by wanting that child to grow up with his father in his life. Perhaps their love, forged in fire, will reignite when they are in close proximity again - with children to raise together. That would finally be in keeping with the book. I certainly hope that magnificent Zendaya figures prominently in Denis' DUNE: MESSIAH. She is the moral core of DUNE2 and she does not disappoint. She should be remembered at OSCAR time. Along with Denis, Timothee', Javier, Rebecca, and Austin.
@@sieraclayton1503 very well put
@@sieraclayton1503 - agree with everything that you said here. That scene is way more nuanced than just Paul having a massive tonal shift, it's the acceptance of his role, and understanding what can "save" their lives and everything in between. He's making an informed choice from a position of knowledge, and he's using all his skill and everything he's learned to deliver exactly that. He's giving them what they want, but it was now or never, either accept the role or die.
it is certainly a change from the book, but Denis said time and again he wanted to focus more on the female characters in the movies and he did so splendidly I think. he could have showed other Fremen, but showed Chani and her friend the other female warrior, he shows the motherly, compassionate, you could say "feminine" side , i.e. chani caring about paul, but also the agency, aggression and manipulative tactics in the bene gesserit, but also chani and jessica. chani definitely is the moral character, the stand-in for the critical viewer, stilgar is portrayed sometimes almost too much as the religious idiot/zealot I feel. does not take away from his greatin acting, but was a little too on the nose for my taste. I still do not know how I feel about Alia, in the book SHE actuallly kills the harkonnen and is alive, there is a little time compression or re-arrangement of events for the sake of movie length and dramatic story arc, still do not know where that will leave us in terms of how (differently) a potential Dune part three will evolve compared to Dune Messiah. but I think the movie is great in updating the source material to our current times: we also have more and ever pressing matters in terms of imperialist policies, ecocide, fight for resources, but also things like womens and minority rights, diversity and inclusion and so on. the movie touched on some of that while still keeping balanced. we are supposed to root for the fremen the underdogs, to respect their culture, but also not gloss post-colonially over problematic developments inside their ranks as well, i.e. adhering to certain rules, not questioning them, etc. to make it short, there are no "good" guys in that sense. which was also somewhat the core message of the book, it was more a warning of charismatic rulers and development under the guise of "progress" or values that could be just as much if not more enslaving as a barbaric dictator. whoever read the books will know what is meant by that considering pauls arc. but I feel the movie shifts that focus slightly and updates it.
Same
Love how one of Paul’s critics in the beginning in the end sacrificed herself in the rearguard to ensure his escape
She didnt even need to be there tho! ,just killed her for no reason ..... which makes the scene pointless
Absolutely brilliant.
@@qillqiggins294 She covered their retreat.
@evilchaperone no she didn't. They say she was spying on them .Why? They knew what they were doing, and everyone was going south !,why stay? Served no purpose
@@qillqiggins294 I think you missed the part where they said she killed 9 of them before they were able to capture her…. That doesn’t sound like a spy to me. That sounds like a rearguard action lolz
My parents own a network of cinemas, and usually when blockbusters hit, at day 7 you see that people lose interest. I went to the theatre with my dad on Sunday, day 11 of the screening, and the hall was still full. We were not able to buy tickets to dune in our own theater for almost two weeks because it was all sold out. So believe me, this movie did very well already, you don't have to hope.
Damn, you must be loaded. Thanks for sharing this fun tidbit
Watching these recent Dune movies made me start reading the books. About halfway through the first one now, and loving it as much as the movies.
keep going. All books are basically on the same lvl as book 1, some are even better. Just keep in mind all the books are pretty unique in tone, pacing, structure etc. View them as separate artworks with the same story/plot threadseperate
I'm into the second half of the audio book. Surprised that they're is a lot of changes in the 2nd part of the movie, as the first half was almost 1 to 1.
@endorsedbryce Yeah, the second part differs a lot from the book. I think if I saw the movie before reading, i'd be a lot more excited about the experience but i must admit I was a bit disappointed. The book plots and the scheeming and character motivations are so much more complex and interesting, not to mention the philosophical musings and interesting points about religion, politics and power scattered throughout.
I know logically, they can't put everything in the movie but there is enough material for a series.
Now I realize I shouldn't have gone to the theaters with the expectation of seeing the book.
Stop after book 4 bro
This film put me in a trance, as if I was believing everything I was seeing… and at the end, I was ready to fight a holy war in Muad'Dib ‘s name, yet simultaneously terrified by his transformation. There are no accolades that can do it justice, it was spectacular!
I gotta admit... even though I already knew the outcome.. the way Stilgar and the other Fremen appeared aghast at the size of the worm Paul called, and their fear for Paul.. had me worried for Paul and I shared in the same euphoria that they portrayed on the screen when they saw Paul successfully ride the worm. That was a masterclass in tension/release.
I have to agree about Chalamet’s performance, it was a fascinating, horrifying transformation, I have rarely seen an actor do anything like this.
I'm with you on this, though having followed Timmy through The King, Beautiful Boy and Bones and All, I knew he had the darkness and the acting acumen to take Paul and slam it. He's one of a kind.
I thought Rebecca's transformation into the Reverend Mother was actually more terrifying, combined with the baby she was carrying showing powers even in the womb you weren't sure if Jessica would turn out to be full on evil or not.
It’s actually so crazy seeing that Willy Wonka is Paul Atreides 😭😭 how does he do it
I think we`re not talking enoug about Gurney. I think he was so driven by his military mind drawn in the search for revange towards his support for Paul. He even says "so what if you`re the prophet, use it"
Stilgar is one of the best characters there.
At first he was pretty chill guy, even funny especially the Life of Brian part but you will slowly realize that he was descending towards fanatical worship that you can even see Paul's and Shani's diappointment that their mentor turned into a harscore religious fanatic who kiss Muad'Dib's path.
I’m glad I’m not the only person who was reminded of Monty Python.
Seems like Austin Butler as Feyd Rautha might be looked back at like Heath Ledger as the Joker
I was at the mall of Georgia, the imax theater was almost completely packed at 11 am. And not a single person got up to house the restroom or anything else. Everyone was glued to the screen. A few people gave it a standing ovation after it was over. I’ve never experienced a movie like this. The visuals are absolutely insane. I’ll be going back at least 2-3 more times to see this
Hope you can stay awake
@@Highkingofgondorboo you mean bot
Fun fact, I'm pretty sure the black and white sequence was shot using IR cameras, which would explain the milky white textures, but is also insane considering that the costume design would have to be specifically tailored for not only regular light spectrum, but IR as well, taking into account how every material behaves under IR light.
How the Bene Gesserit robes went from black while inside to white when outside blew my mind. Fucking genius
This movie made me realize we failed as a culture for letting any StarWars movie over the past decade to break a billion dollars
That's ignorant
It took you this movie to just realize that? You're as sharp as a bowling ball
I think we were all hoping that Disney would be receptive to the strong criticism they faced and create better Star Wars media, but they ultimately chose quantity over quality. With this movies release, the world is seeing what happens when you allow directors the space and time required to craft great movies.
Imagine insulting someone over something like this. Couldn't be me@@jimbotski
@@errwhattheflip Haha yeah, good one...insult...
As a Star Wars fan, George Lucas clearly took inspiration from Dune but most definitely pioneered modern day cinema. With that being said, Denis most definitely had the genius of the Star Wars films to learn from while making these, and I really think that in a poetic way, helped him make a better series. Bravo Villeneuve.
Sci-Fi films have come full circle.
The only thing left is to have a new director adapt Asimov's Foundation series, using Dennis' filmmaking style. That would mean Foundation (which was Spiritually Deconstructed by Herbert's Dune) was inspired by the film version of its prodigal GRANDson, which used the storytelling language of Star Wars, which Dune inspired. Ironically, Star Wars is analogous to a realized version of The Foundation's Galactic Empire, only with more aliens.
@@omegaminoseer4539 I just started reading Foundation and is literally the foundations of Star Wars. Maybe I'll finish the first 5 books first before watching the series (I didn't even watched the trailer, so I'm kinda expecting good visuals and how the storyline will compare to the books). Denis has made a trully unique cinematic experience!
I've just been kinda chuckling at how clearly obvious it was that Lucas was trying to make his own version of Dune, barely a decade after the book became a literary sensation. The young-man-with-a-great-destiny theme, the sand, the galactic empire. He just took the parts he thought were cool.
Yeah I love the planet destroying laser weapons and bad guys in voice changer masks in Dune.
Line up pages 43 - 56 of Dune Messiah with that scene from Star Wars (1977) where Obi-Wan takes Luke back to his desert hovel. That's just one example, and It's so obvious.
@@thomriley1036 oh no, not plagiarizing obi wans desert hovel! Surprised George Lucas wasn’t sued for stealing the idea for the desert hovel
@@mothurman Well... the hovel, the "idealistic crusade", the "this was my father's lance", the mention of Tleilaxu clone armies, the brown desert robes that Fedaykin (rhymes with Jedi-kin) wore when they policed the known universe, the "my father was a Navigator on a Spice Freighter" (even though they have nav computers in Star Wars, so that makes no sense), the characters' names being Farok and Scytale in Arrakeen wearing Jubba cloaks, discussing plans for the planet-destroying Stone Burner near Princess Alia and Djedida.
And the thing of it is, Frank Herbert, being a Jung scholar, had a better understanding of the sources behind the Campbellian "Hero's Journey" that George's writing seems to cling to like a life raft.
Frank's work also rhymes with that of Issac Asamov and the lives of historical figures; but Lucas was the one running around suing other people over his galactic toy commercial, not Frank.
12-year-old kids in the 1970's and 80's just absorbed Star Wars into their little collective subconscious but didn't read books, therefore Disney owns and still sells Jar Jar and Rey many decades later.
@@thomriley1036 Tbh I never read the book but those all sound like your knit-picking. Think about all the differences. Does the dune book have a planet get blown up in the beginning? The desert planet is barren wasteland with no opportunity that Luke wants to leave to start his journey, in Dune it’s their desired location and where the entire journey takes place. There are way more differences than similarities, the stories are completely different. Also since you mentioned Jung, Star Wars is more based on Nietzsches philosophy more than Jung. The “bad guys”/sith are totally based on nietzches idea of ubermensch and will to power. And the Jedi were based on Taoism/eastern philosophy.
I watched it last night and it is no exaggeration to say the theater was shaking the entire time.
The sound team understood the assignment.
tbh I was kinda disappointed the theater speakers didn't melt my ears like they did in part 1, granted the first one came out 2 and half years ago so maybe I've destroyed my ears since then
my imax theatre blew the roof off with their audio. unforgettable experience
@@luvsik7I went to a different theater for part 2 so that might be it, I was really looking forward to being pummeled by sound
You went to the wrong theater!
i am glad the volume was down, i am not sure if because i was on the right side of the theather but damn, dune part 1 destroyed my ears
Like luvsik said "go see Imax" OH MY GOD - your bones will rattle with the sound
Looking back now , I can see Star Wars is catered for children and young adults, but Dune is for mature audiences.
Psssht…. You should read the books. These movies are so watered down it makes me nauseous if I think about it too much. Herbert was an actual genius. I wish the people involved in these movies understood.
idk why people don't realize star wars isn't sci fi
@@NRG2 Seriously, please tell us how you want the movie made. I'm curious to know, factoring budget, time, and scheduling, how tf you expect them to make movies, word for word based on the books?
@@NRG2Read the book first and the movie is great, no idea what your talking about, book adaptations require compromise.
@@NRG2as someone whos read the book what the hell are you talking about?
Javier Bardem’s performance is so beautiful… the transition from the skeptical, aloof, and unflappable leader to a fanatical, sycophantic follower of this off-world aristocratic brat, one who is using Stilgar’s own deeply held beliefs to manipulate him and his people into committing a genocide in his name… I’m a longtime fan of the books, but this aspect of the story never hit me quite so hard before.
Both times I saw the movie at the cinema, I left feeling like I hadn’t felt about movies in a long time. It feels like the good all days of blockbuster movies. The cinematography, the story and the changes the movie made. The scale, the music, the actors, everything was immersive. Show’s what you can do when you actually write a good story, and pick actors based on the ability rather than focusing on things that don’t matter and shouldn’t ever matter.
Dune part two makes Marvel and Star Wars look like child’s play.
Timothée Chalamet deserves his flowers that’s for sure. That scene where he appears from the dark and the explosions flicker on his face, putting genuine fear into his enemies and the audience… wow. It reminded me of Anakin storming the Jedi temple in Revenge of the Sith. The way he doesn’t want to become/do what he’s doing, but also kind of does…
Let me tell you something i rarely go a second time to see a movie and i'm to tell you i'm going to go see this for a second time. This movie is incredible and you're doing yourself a disservice not going and getting the full cinematic experience. Absolutely amazing.
his franchise is getting better with each sequel...The best scifi movie in a long time.
Cinematography was the best I’ve seen in a looooong long time. Amazing.
Finally saw it in IMAX today. I truly don’t think I’ve had an experience like that in a theater ever. Interstellar 70mm would have been close, but I was holding my breath on the edge of my seat the entire time. I simply can’t believe the beauty and story and purely perfect imagery. The number of times I gasped and had tears in my eyes can’t be explained. I believe it was the perfect blend of staying true to the book, harkening back to Dune 1, and fulfilling the prophecy of what we know Paul was to become. Stilgar is probably my favorite character. I loved the Jamis throw backs (one of the times I teared up) were so good. And the Gurney reuniting scene with Paul’s line again brought a beautiful tear to my eye. I’m simply in awe what Denis and the entire team were able to do. Gladly worth the wait. Thank you for this video.
I was telling my wife this after the movie. I teared up multiple times and I couldn’t understand why. I just felt it coming off the screen. You can tell Denis loves this material and wanted it to be done right.
I went into Dune part 2 with 0 expectations. Im a cynical guy and hate the current state of hollywood so I figured it would just be a good time with friends and a mid movie. I never saw or heard of the first one and so I went in blind to hang with a friend. The entire theatre was completely silent aside from one moment where everyone laughed. Truly everyone was completely invested in the movie. Been home for 3 hours and cant stop watching stuff on the series, Ill probably watch part 1 tomorrow.
Fella how can you go into a movie titled part two having never seen the first part… there is genuinely so much set up to the story in part one I can’t believe you could have understood anything going on in part two? Happy you liked it though
@@Killerkwoi13 Lol a friend invited me to a movie and I went. He told me to watch part one before and I just didnt make time for it.
@@luncius_ Im curious of your thoughts after watching part 1. I loved them bot for different reasons
@@vthaver1 Part one was great, it had much more of the world building for the Atreides and the Harkonens vs part 2. I wish I woulda seen p1 first because I was missing quite a lot of context going into p2. When I saw p2 I didnt realize that the prophecy was by the bene gesseret let alone who the bene gesseret were. It seemed more like it was a story about a prophecy instead of a grand conspiracy. Really recontextualized everything after seeing p1.
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I went to see this film with my dad on a whim. I hadn’t seen the first one, nor did I have any idea how good it would be. I can confidently say that what you said at 1:55 is absolutely true. As soon as we got home we watched the first one, and I went out to see part 2 again in IMAX a week later. Having seen it both with and without the context of part 1, this film is a cinematic masterpiece of a sequel, and still better than any other film that I’ve seen in the last 5 years standing without the prep work of the first movie. Villeneuve has my respect.
Saw it Fri. Saw it Sat. Can’t wait to buy the BluRay……
Same, word for word of what you said.
Same here
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For the first time since the lockdown all the advance booking seats at the theatre was sold out on a Sunday. Usually I am the only one in the theatre, or a couple of other are in the theatre as well.
I caught the 11am show, still a nice crowd.
That a filmmaker could make me, having read the book, legitimately on the edge of my seat for Paul's sandworm ride knowing full well the outcome of that scene is a monumental achievement in its own right. That scene was fucking jawdropping in how scary, and discombobulating, and frantic it is, and knowing just through visual storytelling the stakes of gaining control of a sandworm while the desert whips around you and in your face, with the threat of the sandworm diving back into the desert with you with it if you don't do it right. It was legitimately stressful and mesmerizing and such a payoff. Then you have Zendaya's reaction which honestly tells you so much about how much Paul accomplished and how worried she actually was. The whole sequence is so perfectly done with so little (on the surface).
I saw it yesterday. Exceeded all expectations. I've read and re-read these books since the 80's. These characters are my friends. The script didn't quite follow the book exactly, but what they did was absolutely brilliant. I'm going to go watch it again.
Do it, you will notice more and you will have just as much fun as the first time. I just saw it on IMAX tonight for the second time. I'm going to have to go again. But I'll need more digestion time.
Part 2 is by far the best interpretation if you were reading the book, and how it was visualized if this was real..I was blown away by the cinematography. I am going back to see it again.
I went back for the second time, and enjoyed it waayy more than i did in the first if that's possible!
Part 2 is a great movie experience just like the first but just like the first as an adaptation it's a bang average at best and terrible at it's worst. As for the best interpretation, the Syfy channel, while having god awful production values, the costumes and special effects are really poor, is easily the best adaptation going and it isn't even close.
@@gs8494 Depends on what you value in an adaptation. If you want a one-to-one adaptation, I can see why you'd like Dune 2000. But frankly, I'd rather have a film with good acting, cinematography and direction. To me, Villeneuve's Dune captures the overall feeling and themes of the book while also taking creative liberties- some of the changes are massive improvements (for example, Chani's characterization).
I saw this in IMAX on mushrooms, and I agree with all of your praise 10x over. Watching it, I could feel my perspective shift on what a modern movie should/could be. Truly the best movie going experience I've ever had.
what a wonderful idea!
The success of dune gives me hope that Warhammer 40k can be adapted faithfully and be successful
Yeah thats if Henry Cavill does't abandon it like he did on his previous work.
@@mAx70935he left it because they wanted to completely alter the story😂
@minnievsx3977 I mean is Dune not making big changes from the book as well? Wasn't Paul supposed to have been wearing Fremen ways for 3 years? And have a kid and all that
@@dennist8290 putting in a 3 year time skip doesnt do anything for the story, imagine inserting that into dune, does that benefit the story in any way? No. Netflix was changing things with the witcher in ways that had nothing to do with whether it fit or not but more for political agenda and being more woke, dunes story telling is completely faithful to the source material
@@minnievsx3977 You can't say it's completely faithful while explaining a change. Paul's war on the Great houses is still a little rushed. Changing Alia from being born to a fetus, Thurfir and the betrayal subplot was cut, Paul and the reverend mother do not speak as much which leads to loosing some great moments, and the whole lack of guild members, and more. I'm not saying these changes are for worse like with the Witcher tho. But Dune is still taking creative liberty and changing and cutting quite a few things
There were so many sequences in the movie that made my hair stand on end. You could *feel* the excitement in the crowded theater rise during certain key moments. The best way to put it is: hype moments. You know when they come and you can feel unified with the viewing audience in understanding that you all are experiencing something incredible. Almost as if you expect everyone to jump up from there seats and begin cheering. It's like being a part of a pulsating organism--connected by the sheer power unfolding before you. It leaves a communal high that remains long after the credits roll.
The director does a phenomenal job at adapting a notoriously difficult story into; a film everyone can enjoy that manages to convey the deep themes Dune is known for. I believe it was filmed so well that it can captivate even the most blasé film watchers and introduce them to the introspective, humanity-criticizing themes of the Dune universe. It's an instant classic and I believe it has left indelible mark on film history and has reimagined the type of stories that can be captured in the medium.
One of the best sci-fi movies i’ve ever seen
Its been known ever since the 1st Star Wars in 1977,George Lucas got the idea for Star Wars from the Dune novel,
2nd movie Empire Strikes Back,even had a worm like creature,during the M falcon being chased by Tie fighters amongst the Asteroids.
Really,even though George himself never stated this?
Han Solo was a Spice smuggler @@Highkingofgondor
The original sarlac pit looks EXACTLY like the mouth of a sandstorm
Tbf Dune was inspired by the 7 Pillars of Wisdom, If you watch Lawrwnce of Arabia with fresh eyes its very clear how much DV has borrowed too.
In 1977, Jabba was described as a two-legged walrus man in the novelization of Star Wars. (Probably based on Tuek the Spice Smuggler, based on the actor who played him in the deleted scene.)
In 1983, after God Emperor had been published, he somehow turned into a half-worm-half-man creature on a rolly cart... I wonder why...
The Giedi Prime sequences weren't actually shot in Black and White. They were shot in Infrared. I saw Denys tell Colbert this
this is a true generational masterpiece. denis cooked and shook everyone
oh puhlease !!! The Last Jedi was the last great generational masterpiece
Denis kind of messed it up. Changed the narrative too much and if you really look deep into it, it does not hold up so well.
Lady Jessica was almost a villain. First, how she spread the narrative among the weak minded to have power of Fremen media. Then, she said to Paul, we'll be waiting for you, all of us, as the Water of Life flooded here with all the elder Reverend Mothers that came before. They didn't like like the duels and fighting I guess. Just watched Empire. Still good, but it was basically, fight in snow, train with yoga, fight with Vader.
Empire was overated and got so much love because the original and after decades the nostalgia and newness of the universe
Rebecca Ferguson had better Bene Gesserit control in the Mission Impossible movies.
Uhhhh, she is a villain. It's kinda part of the point
@@Yanel5795 I dunno about overrated, Empire is the shit and pretty much endlessly rewatchable
Yeah, Lady Jessica’s one-dimensionsl villain turn was the only real criticism I had. Like, even before she took the water of life she was saying outright “Let’s push our story on the weak-minded. They’re more vulnerable.” I would have appreciated a little more sublety.
It’s like we as the audience weren’t being trusted to understand that she was a dangerous influence. Still a 10/10 movie for me though.
Stilgar being Paul's number one hype fan throughout the movie is arguably the best part.
I think this guy really likes Dune: Part 2
Yours is the most comprehensive review and the most thorough as well, that I have watched (so far) ... Though I have binged on YT reviews of Dune 2 the past 3 days. Great job!
This is probably the cinematic event of a generation, which is why you get LotR comparisons from some people. I don't think this is as good as LotR, but it is very good, and gets closer than 90% of cinema. This flat out mogs anything made so far this year.
😂 give me a break. Why is it all you people refuse to call a movie 'A Movie' anymore? You're all such enlightened film experts. 🙄Now it's always "Cinema". So funny. Ha Ha! These movies aren't that good .. and no way is it even in the same ballpark as something like Empire or the Lord of the Rings.
@@Fiveash-Art Your bait sucks
@@LordDoof It's not bait. It's the truth. 👍🏻
How is this not better then lotr
@@knockoutnana6537 😂
Re: Rebecca Ferguson's acting. I recently watched the White Queen and it's 100% clear why she got this role. A very similar character arc and she crushed it.
She was excellent in that series.
My siblings watched it in cinema with me this weekend, they haven’t seen part one. My sister, whose favourite film was empire strikes back, declared it her new favourite movie. The whole theater was so engaged, the little laughs when Stilgar said „lisan al gaib“ at every opportunity, the tension during the whole movie. This was so incredible. I‘ll see it sgain in the theatre this friday.
My theatre experience was unlike any I’ve ever had before. And probably not for why you’re thinking. Completely packed opening weekend, the only imax theatre for miles. I was by myself as were a good majority of people there, people on either side of me where there alone as well. When I tell you that this theatre was silent, I mean that it was uncanny at moments, looking around to see close to 100 people completely engrossed. It was unreal. There was no awkward clap at the end or anything like that, once the credits rolled you could feel the entire room let out this sigh of relief, not realizing we had been holding our breath the whole time.
Ayo crazy he said this EXACT thing after I finished typing this😂😂
I think with Stilgar there is a beat which was subtle AF in the movie but should have held. Paul doesn't want this. Paul is trying to AVOID Jihad. Then, he sees his tutor, teacher, confidant Stilgar become a believer/zealot. That is one more person who buys into things, a deep friend he lost making him more alone
Please. I'm 48 and grew up around Star Wars. Empire was a great movie, but it's way too romanticized now. This movie blows that one out of the water. No comparison.
The bass in the cinemas everytime the Voice was used, it was amazing.
There was a double feature of Dune 1 and 2 in the theatres near me, and the sound was irreplaceable. It was perfect. Cool visuals too 🔥
When just one DUNE movie better and more complex than entire Star Wars
swordfighting, riding a worm and spaceships.. yes so very "complex".
@@massissues true 😆
Well, we are comparing the subtle social engineering techniques of the Missionaria Protectiva which allow adepts of Prana-Bindu to exploit planetary populations ingrained religious beliefs to accomplish the effects of "The Voice".
Vs.
"The Force" is magic, therefore Mind Trick.
@@massissuesI mean you could say Star Wars is space ships and laser swords
@@massissuesThe world of Dune is definitely more complex then Star Wars, where in the movies there are the dark and light side. Dune goes so much deeper then that in its conflict
Truly one of the best movies ever made. I got chills at the end of the movie when Chani was waiting for the sand worm, realizing what Paul had become. An epic movie.
I didn’t see the first movie before watching Dune 2. A friend wanted to see it so I went with him and was blown away. I knew nothing of Dune going into it and still figured out what the hell was going on. Really speaks to the “show don’t tell” nature of this film
The first-person view of the initial worm surf was amazing.
Giedi Prime's arena with the black sun that bleaches everything was fucking brilliant (including the black fireworks).
I legit loved this sequel. Improved on everything from pt1.
Taking nothing away from the actors, the fact that they are all this good... that points to good direction, good writing, and good editing
Denis is a genius. And Brilliantly Multi-talented Zendaya had deservedly already Won the highly prestigious EMMY AWARD for Best Lead Actress in a Drama Series and she was the youngest actress in History to do that. And Zendaya won it Twice, back-to-back vs stiff competition Both Years. Zendaya also won a Golden Globe for Acting. In addition, Zendaya became the youngest in History to be nominated for a Best Producer EMMY. So Denis' had a lot to work with. Likewise with Timothee', Austin, and Florence, who had all been nominated for Oscars. Javier actually Won an Oscar. This movie is chock full of magnificent performers at the top of their game in all disciplines. Zendaya and Timothee' should get OSCARS for their great work in DUNE2. Greig should win it for Cinematography again. Rebecca and Austin for supporting. Denis has GOT to win for Director. DUNE2 is a wonderful Masterpiece for the Ages.
The bene geserit color transition shot legitimately made my jaw drop in the theater
Instantly fell in love with Dune part 1 first time I watched it a couple months ago. Thank goodness I only had to wait 3 months for Part 2. These movies are fucking amazing. Everything about them. Everything: the music, the directing, the actors, the cinematography, the story, The rich and alive Dune Universe, etc. I’m going to go see Part 2 for the third time in theaters. Like a fucking artillery barrage the theater was 💥 💣
I realized how the beginning of the movie was shot tight, close shot mainly, then it opens up when the corridors are done and the big set pieces arrives. Mind blowing
The final duel though not having a music makes the scene intense as if it feels like you are the one who's fighting.
Saw it twice and I can’t agree enough of how a masterpiece this movie is, truly a work of art. “I don’t care if you believe, I believe” made my skin crawl. Wish the battle scenes were longer but those scenes were just beyond anything I could have imagined. Probably gonna go see it a third time :) Long Live the Fighters !!!
Dude, I recgnize and salute the relevancy of your analysis. Especially because its a cinema-wise pragmatic lecture instead of a fanatical one, like the rest of the guys who attemped do to so on youtube.
When the thumpers go off for the first time in a theater with proper speakers… just wow. You feel it in your loins.
I saw it in IMAX 4D. I was completely overwhelmed. I loved it.
Geidi Prime was shot with an Infrared camera--this was confirmed by Villeneuve. There was no editing; the look was baked into the camera and no color information was captured (of course there was editing but I mean none was done to achieve the primary look). The camera was only sensitive to infrared wavelengths which altered the reflective properties of human skin and different fabrics, as you can see when the Baron crosses into the sun. It's actually my favorite little thing from the movie because black clothes absorb all visible wavelengths of light, and if they absorb infrared light they'd also be black in that scene. But the Baron's luxurious robes were specifically made to ONLY reflect infrared light so they were black in normal light but turned white in the sun of Geidi Prime. In-world Harkonnen fashion design.
At the time, Bladerunner 2049 felt like a monumental achievement in Cinema. Looking back now, he was just getting warmed up for the Dune trilogy.
*that moment* of the switch and the incredible monologue scene had us all in tears at the theatre. Probably the best performance by Chalamet so far.
I was so concerned that Timothee Chalemet just didnt have the demeanor and "presence" to play as Paul beyond him being a boy.
But he absolutely transitioned his character's energy and presence from boy, to man, to leader.
His command presence when he's in the council meeting and overtakes everyone with an energy and words so full of conviction that he legitimately becomes an entirely different person.
When he yells "SILENCE!" (I'm SURE they did some sound editing to get the tone for that absolutely PERFECT) its a moment from this character who only a movie ago i genuinely belived was just a pampered immature boy from a well-off family to this scene where his command presence is absolutely overwhelming.
I went from doubting, to unable to imagine another actor who could make me believe the character this much.
Almost as if the actor himself was going through the same transformation Paul was
Watch "The King". TC is incredible in that as well.
In my headcanon, Arrival is part of the Dune universe and the "aliens" were actually very, very, very early Guild Navigators.
Warning. If you thought part one was slow and boring be prepared to fall asleep with party two.
Greatest Sci-fi movie ever. The real question is this the best movie ever made.
GREATEST? I mean it’s really great for sure but greatest is a bold claim
"LOTR - Return of the King" says hold my water. There are others too like "the godfather p2."
c'mon man, it is a good movie but there is no need to overexaggerate
The better question is can any sci-fi movie surpass this? Sure the final battle could have been longer but will there be any other sci-fi movie that gives the same sensation that the writing, visuals, acting and score of this film gives?
@@gmmonomotapa2889 yeah or stalker and seven samurai
Empire Strikes Back is the greatest film ever made IMO, but Dune 2 is a cinematic masterpiece that deserves to be mentioned in the same breath.
Both are top shelf sci-fi movies, but Empire still takes the cake imo too. I would personally put Alien or Blade Runner on number one spot, though.
You eat playdoh?
'Power over Spice
is Power over All.'
Every single person was silent, nobody and I mean nobody moved, no one for the entire run left to go to the toilet. The worm sequence had me nearly in tears for how powerful it was, the arena scene had me short of breath "Feyd, RAUTHAAAA" (BWAAAAAAA) the arrival scene and speech had me terrified, the Sardaukar getting attacked by worms and the silence and perfectly choreographed knife fight.
One of my favourite films... ever
As someone who hasn’t read the books, the way I read Paul throughout the movie is that he increasingly becomes viscerally aware of how _easily_ he could become the Madhi, even if a False Madhi. That’s why he’s so frightened of going south and encountering the fundamentalists. He knows that enough of the prophecy and enough of who he naturally is points to him being the Lisan al Gaib, combined with Jessica’s power and influence as well as his own visions and training in the Voice-the way I interpreted it, it’s not that he doesn’t believe that it’s him, but rather that he knows it _could be_ either truly or falsely, and that he is afraid of having that kind of power and sway and so tries to deny it.
Then there’s the added layer of Paul coming to love, respect, and admire the Fremen and their culture and ways, so he wants to be _a part_ of them, not rule over them, and he’s aware that him being the Madhi, truly or falsely, would put him in power over them.
[please do not spoil me on what happens in the books]
TC is fantastic in The King on Netflix. Not surprised how well he plays Paul Atrides!
Paul and Fayde were amazing in the film. They both have so much presence in their roles.