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Effects of re-uploading to fix a mistake and analytics malfunction
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- čas přidán 1. 12. 2021
- I accidentaly uploaded a low res version of my latest main channel video. 1.5 hours after that mistake, I re-uploaded a fixed version, then watchend the analytics, only to see the analytics on the first version malfunction! 2 days later, it appears the damage wasn't that great.
Resolve is free, and can generate downsized copies for editing. It also lets you rebind the keys for everything so you can change it to be what you're used to.
Came to say this. Love DaVinci Resolve!
This ^^
Lol I've been using Shotcut bc it's open source, so all of the "studio" features are also free. I still "liked" @krtwood 's comment tho bc I didn't realize that Resolve let's you remap the key bindings. Shotcut might have a similar feature I'm unaware of, but it's been like learning a new language after my prior experience with Final Cut Pro.
The "Mouse Gods" are getting revenge and making you run through a maze.
I don't think you should feel bad about creating a clickbaity thumbnail for that video. TBH it was a very accurate and illustrative image that got right to the point of the video while still creating interest for a general audience. I honestly wouldn't even call it clickbait. If anything it's a great example of accurate advertising.
One thing I hate about CZcams is that they don't let normal creators replace existing uploads in place. Some folks like Corridor Digital have been allowed to replace an upload in place to fix VFX issues and it's just absurd that sort of functionality isn't widely available. I understand how it could be absued, but this is a perfect example of why we need those sorts of features.
Yeah, I'd agree - I think there's a difference between a thumbnail that is captivating and one that's "clickbaity", the latter implying dishonesty about the content of the video, which wasn't the case in my opinion.
I'm excited to see the tests for different species!
Thanks very much, Matthias - very interesting to have a glimpse into other people's analytics. Tim
I quite enjoyed you talking about yours too
Trying to figure out CZcams is like running up the down escalator. - Eric.
I usually add videos to my watch later list. That might contribute to why an old unlisted video is still getting views.
I am a regular watcher of your content. I try to watch every video on every channel and I will say that your thumbnail caught my attention before I even realised it was one of your videos.
I think it’s good, the thumbnail matches the content and there wasn’t any deception.
4:15 "Eventual Consistency" is a funny Real-time Database concept.
I'd like to see the analytics on THIS video as compared to the previous video, explaining analytics.
Funny, I watched that first video and didn't notice it was low res., and I enjoyed it as much as all your videos. However~~~I am ready for another mouse maze video~~~
I've always thought it was bizarre how Google can get away with selling the ads and calculating the analytics. Seems like a big conflict of interest.
Interesting video!
Would love an update on the “lifetime” or long-tail results. Scott
I think in terms of Clickbait, yours was actually quite authentic and I wouldn't even put it in the same category - I'd say that it was very cleverly done and relevant to the video. I'm chiming in for Davinci Resolve, though I did have to upgrade my computer to use it - though now I can edit in 4K! :) they seem to make enough money from hardware to run their software division, perhaps? ... I think the proper name for what you are doing with downscaling is called creating proxies (down sampling during editing, native res on export), though it is usually part and parcel of the editing software, but perhaps your version of Vegas doesn't have the functionality built in.
It feels like when we all do something like this would be like throwing a rock over the edge of a cliff. You can throw it but once you release it there is no pulling back. Wish there was a way to totally do a redo without penalties. Keep up the good work. Have been watching your videos for years.
I'm sure if there was a way to "fix" the video in place, some would find a way to abuse it.
@@HeiszWandelproject just imagine what ppl are doing with thumbnails swapping the thumbnails with scripts. You bet they would AB test sections of the video.
CZcams today : below average viewers
CZcams 5 years from now : hey we recommend you watch this video
Getting a mullet would really help with those thumbnails. They're the new hot thing right now.
I wonder if overall it would have been just better to leave the 480 version up. But maybe it's long term performance would be poor as non-subscribers wouldn't stick around as long.
I watched the video. I love your content. I did get the feeling from watching it that the content was a bit rushed. The video had a different pace from what i'm used to.
Saw the first in my subs list but by the time I got to watching it I saw the second hi res upload was available, with the titles saying the difference so watched that one instead (from start to end). Interesting that you have such a focus on view count performance within such immediate timeframes. I watch videos largely in the order they arrive in my subs list, unless I have restricted time available, then I'll skip longer ones to find one that will fit. It does mean I sometimes don't get round to watching all the Friday releases until Tuesday or Wednesday if I've been particularly busy over the weekend.
Do the analytics show you subscriber views and view retention separately to non-subscribers?
Tons of people open up videos in a bunch tabs and then eventually get around to watching it hours later. You'd probably have to private the video if you want them to watch the new one. The worst part of youtube analytics is that all of the stats are behind by different amounts of time and if you start adding things up they never come out right. The audacity that they have a little note telling you that as if its acceptable.
oh, and even without this malfunction, that graph of views over time can change by 10% easily.
I don't mind 480 res. .Because of my location HD buffers all the time.
All/most the statistics on YT are "eventually consistent" you can see this in various places. The graphs are clearly generated on some sort of batch job basis where as a straight number is lower compute intensity and cheaper to just show you accurately. Still views are always laggy and likes are always in real time, so on a popular recently uploaded video you can see thumbs up vastly exceeding views :-)
"This is like an election or something." Bahahaha!
Matthias, sorry to be peeping at your stats, but as a fellow creator I am blown away how little you make given the size of your channel. I understand not all your videos have a million views but this is a great case study as to why CZcams will never be passive income as the algorhthym doesn't suggest older videos hardly at all. You have almost 800 videos and from what i gather not a lot views monthly on those. I also learned how imporant watch time is to youtube. A video that is 5-10 minutes will earn significantly less than a video that is 20-30 minutes with multiple ads, and thats how a tiny channel with one video that does well can almost match your earnings. I feel for you man you've been around for so long with such great content and you're such a big channel I really would have thought you would have been compensated by YT much better.
I did watch the video, enjoyed it, and left a comment. In my opinion neither the thumbnail nor the title was clickbait or even "clickbaity." I think it is okay to pose a question in the title/thumbnail that is answered or at least explored in the video. And you did cover your lessons learned in the video and you did actually make those pieces you hold in the thumb nail. Yes, perhaps you did some pieces for the sake of CZcams, but this testing rig and these tests are the sort of thing I would believe you would do even if you were not on CZcams. In other words, it was true to your character and personality (or persona at least).
Now here's another question, do you get different revenue from a view depending on when it happens? Does it matter that I don't get around to watch your videos until a few days after they have been uploaded or do you get less / none revenue from my late view?
I watched them both so youtube would stop recommending it.
How does youtube not allow you to just put in complex edits. Like wtf.
Hi, I am having to re upload 38 video's because I couldn't do Ga4 migration, when I go into analytics it says data not flowing,. I just find it so hard to do
Never saw a notification for either video, but this one popped up right away. 😁
Is it possible to write scripts to help automate your CZcams upload process? Something like checking the resolution (looks like that should also be possible via ffmpeg or ffprobe) and then upload the video via the CZcams data API.
Yes, I could use a script to check it, or I could just check it by looking at it. Either way, if I forget to do it, it's a problem.
@@HeiszWandelproject Was thinking more along the lines of: if it's possible to get the script to do everything you usually do for the upload (thumbnail, title, description? Plus the upload itself) in addition to the resolution check, then you could just do the check and upload in one step by running the script (makes it harder to accidentally bypass the resolution check in your upload process). Seems like the loss in revenue from a screw up could merit the effort to get such a script working.
(Edit: I spaced out a little in the second half of your video and also missed your conclusion that it didn't really have a significant impact. Still, using a script to do the resolution check and upload in one step might be a nice way to avoid this.)
Interessant, welche analysen es für alle videos gibt.
Good thing CZcams invites you to help shape the future of CZcams.
Thumbs up for the thumbnail of this video, I appreciate that it contains an actual thumb 😁👍🏻
Always interesting to see some behind the scenes. I wish CZcams would let you change out an existing video.
They do if you’re big enough. They’ve been letting record labels upgrade the quality of some of the older music videos on CZcams e.
If the majority are watching on phones, it didn't even matter. I would have just enjoyed the extra comments, and left a pinned comment saying sorry. Maybe even link a HD video that is unlisted.
What I've seen over my recent videos is that those Videos that did well in the first 10-15 minutes did well overall and those that didn't do well in the first minutes didn't recover.
Downscaling and swapping the video-files pre/post edit is a great Idea actually I might steal that. I've been using Shotcut and on my slow CPU it is the opposite of snappy and editing is quite frustrating from time to time.
>youtube algorithm throws on Aviators, takes a lick of ice cream cone
I still haven’t watched the first video because I didn’t have time. I recommend keeping your mistakes uploaded because people would still watch in 480p on their phones and not even notice it.
low quality less likely to buffer=more views?
Matthias, I actually noticed the thumbnail on that video, and I thought it was really good. Not to say your other thumbnails are bad necessarily, but this one stood out to me
The sony Vegas software reminded me of Ben from Applied Science saying he uses DaVinci's free editing software (resolve?). If you're looking for something free maybe that's an option.
yes, I have been meaning to switch to that. Just haven't taken the time to learn it.
@@HeiszWandelproject if it isn't broken, don't fit it :)
Interesting video!
I use sony vegas pro now for 3 years, and used movie studio before, i am also stuck with it more because i don't want to pay monthly for my hobby.
Vegas isn't really efficient and hard on the hardware, but it gets the stuff done eventually.
i got a notification for both, so even after you unlisted the 480p one i could still have chosen to watch that, but i didnt.
i guess it could pay off to upload as unlisted and give out the link to fans via for example patreon so they can catch things like this before you publish to everyone.
ah, that might explain some. Email notifications. unlisting it doesn't remove those!
Looking back at it, I watched the 480p... and didn't notice the difference but I also normally have it set on auto480p, and x2 speed.
There are several FOSS video editing options. Being a Linux guy, I'm surprised you aren't using one of those.
None of them terribly usable.
thanks for share truly
has "modern" youtube been better overall for creators or is it just better for advertisers and youtube themselves? I remember when you couldn't upload longer than 10minutes. but now its replaced my cable tv subscription
Creator revenue comes from advertiser spending, so what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. The ones getting the short end of the stick are the viewers.
I just saw them both!
it will be interresting to see if your public video gets another spike from this :) please keep us posted.
Doesn't your editing software have a proxy video editing feature? That is a feature which scales videos down for editing purposes, but renders are full resolution. You are doing proxy clips the hard way.
I'll give your new video a like. Maybe it'll boost the visibility by fraction of a percent.
Well, I rather pay $100 for a product and own it and not pay subscription too. Also I'm not going to follow your advise, I already have Sony Vegas and thus going to spend time and learn it 😏. Btw, I didn't understand what you do with FFMpeg and how do you replace the video files after editing. care to explain it a little more? as far as I know you cannot replace video and keep cuts in adobe, unless I haven't learn how to do it.
an idea to avoid this in future, add a step which adds a transluscent watermark with like "LOW RES PREVIEW" across the downscaled clips
that would not have helped last time. I even checked I had the high res clips, but I think when I changed the settings in vegas, I got distracted by someone, and never saved the settings. So I rendered low res from the full res clips.
@@HeiszWandelproject oh, i thought you compressed through ffmpeg via some script, if its just a setting that doesnt help. :P
Couldn't you have replaced the video file in the original post? I'd swear they used to allow that, but I don't upload content very often.
Not possible, nor was it ever.
I follow a fairly large photographers channel...he was saying a few months ago he spoke to one of the YT personal helpers or whatever theyre called..."blah bla blah, helps to have a good looking girl in the vid thumbnail"...so now hes always got a hot looking girl on the thumbnail...just about sums up YT and its algorithms
So 2.1 million views and $8,126 per month. That's an RPM of about $3.8 per thousand views.
the RPM drops considerably after the first 2 days or so. Different audience that doesn't monetize as well.
@@HeiszWandelproject Have you ever thought of doing a video specifically going after a higher RPM? I remember years ago people were making websites specifically targeted toward the highest paying Ad-sense ads. So they were making sites for Mesothelioma Cancer Attorneys, because they paid something like $90 per thousand. The real goal is to make video's you enjoy making, while also being in the high RPM ad category.
I hope this doesn't come off as lecturing you, but I found Atul Gawande's "The Checklist Manifesto" a very interesting read.
I watched this video all the way through and I'm setting up my computer to rewatch the fixed video while I'm away from it.
checklists are useful for checking multiple things. Not so useful to have a checklist to check one item.
It's alright, the CZcams algorithm will randomly promote it to half the world in like two years time.
Yes, but how does posting a video complaining about the algorithm affect a video in the algorithm?
Change the thumbnail on the new video to HD, 1080p or so
One possible explanation for the inconsistent numbers in the first few hours could be the effect Tom Scott talks about in his video "why computers can't count sometimes".
4:09 "What gives? This is like an election, or something, isn't it?" Such candor might invite wrath from the Mighty Susan.
Pwned by the algorithm.
With screwball analytics changing around it really makes me wonder what the actual monetization earnings are versus what they tell you that they are.
Google charges more than they pay out, of course. That's how they make money.
@@HeiszWandelproject Of course that's how they profit from your content. There's no way to verify their statistics are correct so they must completely be on the honor system of whether they are paying you for every cent that you have earned. If they cannot get their analytics to match up 100% of the time what's to say that you're not being ripped off.
$550 for 83k views, i always assumed it would be $100 for around 100,000 views..
also i'm kinda bummed i didn't monetize my channel after a video went viral and is almost at 1M views lol
Maybe should have change title to "Don't watch this one"
Maybe invest some of that money into new PC which would be able to handle 1080p content directly?
PC is less than two years old. just my software is old.
so you basically broke 100 pieces of wood and 1 video :D - maybe heating the video before upload?
hahha, That klickbaity thumbnail didnt trigger me & i skipped that video. What did i do wrong?
I recommend growing a big ole mustache
Engagement comment
I'm not that convinced that a video with lots of science would necessarily do poorly. I see some kind of trend and interest in videos about scientifically "debunking" common believes. I think I even heard people ranting about it.
Yeah, as others have said, there's Davinci Resolve, which is free... But of course you should have to relearn how to use that. Buuut you could make a video about trying to learn a new (and free) video editing software, and that could get you some revenue.
I'll like and comment since it helps.
What matters is people actually watching. It's the only thing that actually matters.
@@HeiszWandelproject I know very little about it. I was led to believe all activity increased a videos performance with the algorithm. Actual views are what ultimately matter on your end, but does the algorithm have a large effect on your views or do you get mostly subscribers?
@@Malungeon18436571 I was also under the impression that leaving likes and comments would help a channel grow. When I find a small channel that I really like, I make a point of liking the video and leaving comments in the hope that it will encourage CZcams to promote the channel.
Can you see what you earn from youtube Premium?
Is it better than adds?
It's about 2% or revenue. What is unknown is how many people actually have premium.
It would be nice to know if a Premium viewer is more/less/equal valuable compared to a add user.
Like an election , lol
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Should have just left the original up rather than pissing about trying to fix a problem that didnt exist
yes, I was humming and hawing a bit deciding whether to try to fix it. I care about that a lot more than the average, and the low res doesn't appear to affect view counts in the short term.
@@HeiszWandelproject of coarse I said this with the benefit of hind sight, it sounds much harsher than intended
I'm one of those who watched the first one and ignorant the second, sorry 😐
> this is like an election
LOL, that's right!
wow do people really care about resolution that much? anything above 360p is acceptable to me, or at least it wouldn't keep me from watching the video
3:20 In just an hour of beeing published, people have spent 512 hours watching it. At CAD $14 an hour at minimum wage in Ontario that's CAD $7168 watchers could have earned. With a 20.05% marginal tax rate in Ontario, that's $1437 in lost taxes for the government. Scrary ;)
"you can't trust analytics"