Similarities Between Hungarian and Estonian

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  • čas přidán 10. 12. 2021
  • Hungarian and Estonian are both Finno-Ugric languages that share the same origin, but how close are they? In this video we explore some of the commonalities between the two languages, with Betti (Hungarian speaker) and Markus (Estonian speaker).
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    Hungarian (magyar nyelv) is a Uralic language that is primarily spoken in Hungary where it has official status, along with the European Union. Hungarian naturally shares a lot of linguistic connections with other Uralic languages, making its position in Central Europe very unique and different from its neighbouring countries. There are varying views on the history and development of the Hungarian language. Hungarian people originate from the Ural region in present-day Russia and migrated to the current location in Central Europe after conquering the Carpathian Basin. It is believed that prior to settling in Central Europe, Hungarians had contacts with Iranian (Scythians and Sarmatians) or Turkic nomads which influenced their language as a result. Today the language holds official status nationally in Hungary and regionally in Romania, Slovakia, Serbia, Austria and Slovenia.
    Estonian (eesti keel) is a Uralic language of the Finnic branch, primiarly spoken in Estonia where it hold official status.

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  • @BahadorAlast
    @BahadorAlast  Před 2 lety +425

    Hungarian and Estonian are both Finno-Ugric languages that share the same origin, but how close are they? In this video we explore some of their commonalities. Hope you enjoy it! If you would like to participate in a future video, be sure to follow and message me on Instagram: instagram.com/bahadoralast/

    • @ZoltanHoppar
      @ZoltanHoppar Před 2 lety +17

      There was a common glue: old tatar language that affected all three finnic, estonian, and hungarian languages (also gaelic but in lesser rate). The voice duplicates were destroyed by the 1848-49 language renewal.

    • @garyn8316
      @garyn8316 Před 2 lety +5

      @@ZoltanHoppar So is that where Hungarians and Estonians and Finns come from? Central Asia?

    • @PolyglotKristian
      @PolyglotKristian Před 2 lety +9

      I've been studying a bit Northern Sami and it would be really interesting to see how well Sami speakers of some of the 9 Sami languages understand each others. Also like Finnish, Karelian, Ingrian, Kven and Meänkieli.

    • @Abigail-ss7pt
      @Abigail-ss7pt Před 2 lety

      Amharic again

    • @alexj9603
      @alexj9603 Před 2 lety +8

      @@garyn8316 Rather northern than central Eurasia, on both sides of the Ural mountains that are commonly defined as the border between Europe and Asia. Hence the term "Uralic" for this language family. In this area you can still find people that speak Uralic languages.

  • @agotaieniko8729
    @agotaieniko8729 Před 2 lety +1098

    As a native Hungarian I lived in Estonia with a Finnish flatmate and once I had the pleasure of telling primary school children a little about Hungary. I showed them some Hungarian tongue twisters, but only in writing, I didn't say them out loud. The children tried to pronounce the tongue twisters - needless to say, I was completely shocked when they pronounced them almost without any help, with almost no accent, and with complete naturalness.
    Also, when I walked down the streets and just listened to the Estonians talking to each other, I always had a feeling that I understood what they were saying, even though I knew I didn't. Not only are some of our words similar, but also the rhythm of the language, and the pronunciation. Very interesting.

    • @sectorgovernor
      @sectorgovernor Před 2 lety +34

      Yes, their sounding feels related to Hungarian, just some kind of 'less various vowels'.
      Mari, what is also Uralic language sounds even more similar to the Hungarian tone. It is also somewhat closer to Hungarian, though it is in the Finnic branch. (It also got Slavic and Turkic influence like Hungarian)
      The closest languages to Hungarian are Khanty and Mansi, we still wouldn"t understand them, but Hungarian share words with them what are almost exactly or exactly the same in pronunciation. I think it is possible to understand even few sentences if it contains the common vocabulary

    • @alfredszabo1817
      @alfredszabo1817 Před 2 lety +6

      Szia Eniko! De szivesen ott lettem volna, biztos nagy elmeny volt! Gratula!

    • @petervagvolgyi9084
      @petervagvolgyi9084 Před 2 lety

      czcams.com/video/FRCtsHGL_I4/video.html

    • @hansapils222
      @hansapils222 Před 2 lety +2

      Hogy van az észtül: Enikő a legszebb magyar lány! How is it in Estonien: Enikő is the most beatifull Hungarian Girl!

    • @jelenember
      @jelenember Před 2 lety

      Hi @@sectorgovernor , I am really interested in this topic, can I contatc you someway?

  • @jorgappenzeller9571
    @jorgappenzeller9571 Před 2 lety +1678

    Incredible!😄 My two favourite countries ever! Hungary🇭🇺♥ and Estonia🇪🇪♥ And yes, you've guessed! I am Polish 🇵🇱 !😉

    • @jozsefmolnos8472
      @jozsefmolnos8472 Před 2 lety +75

      Greetings from hungary to the Polish people! ❤

    • @TheDaxner
      @TheDaxner Před 2 lety +35

      Lovely Poland! :) Greetings from Hungary! :D

    • @P.B0209
      @P.B0209 Před 2 lety +14

      ❤Polska❤

    • @tamaramolnar2980
      @tamaramolnar2980 Před 2 lety +19

      I am hungary🥺❤

    • @sandraveinthal
      @sandraveinthal Před 2 lety +10

      Alright. As an Estonian, a native one, I am confused of how you can like Estonia. Sure, the landscape is pretty and it has quite a bit of history, but the people are so, so racist, homophobic and transphobic, so many of us are anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers.Not so long ago there were some who wanted to 'free Estonia from it's corrupt leaders who are against human rights'. This was with the restrictions for those who refused to vaccine themselves and hadn't been through Covid-19. Obviously not everyone is like that but a very gddamn big part of us are. People here are awful. My very own parents are racist. I don't see much reasons to like Estonia but, you do you I guess.
      Also I hope that the world has been kind to you, and all the best wishes.

  • @denisialalov6690
    @denisialalov6690 Před rokem +147

    I am from Komi. In Komi language WINTER - TÖV, Butter - VYJ, Blood - VIR, Water - VA, Horn - SYUR. Komi language belongs to the Finnish group of languages as well

    • @kevhynaleks2631
      @kevhynaleks2631 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Amazaing, your words closer to the hungarian basic words, then to the estonian. It would be very interesting to make a comparison between hungarian and manshi - on paper the manshi is the closest relative of the hungarian…

    • @AbcdEfgh-mw3nj
      @AbcdEfgh-mw3nj Před 10 měsíci +20

      Most Russians are Slavicized Finno-Ugric peoples. Some earlier, some later. The Moscow region, for example, are descendants of the Finno-Ugric tribe Merya.

    • @bolekbolkowski1118
      @bolekbolkowski1118 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@AbcdEfgh-mw3njI have been travrling in USSR. Once in one of Moscower train station I saw one man, who look very asian. But his hair were blond a eyes blue. He probsbly was member of one of the finnic tribes, somewhere in north. But even some Russians look different than other slavs. Especially they"s noses are shorter and more round.
      I don't know if russian language has any finnic loan words. But for sure it has some words loan from kazakh language. Like sumka = bag.

    • @marsukarhu9477
      @marsukarhu9477 Před 7 měsíci

      Cool!!

    • @amadeuz8161
      @amadeuz8161 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Lets hope one day Russia will just let us figure out our roots without trying to cover it up to create their history. It's like they feel shame for being a young country and that they did what many other European countries did back in the days. When Soviet fell so much new information came out but then the curtain dropped again. Like central Sweden has the same 80% light colored eyes and hair as Finland and Estonia so you can assume its more common in the Finno ugric genes than indo european. Seen a lot of people from St Petersburg with blond hair and blue eyes and Russia is not the only one that has stolen our forefathers land. The time for "what is done is done" has to come at some point and just let our historians figure it out instead of just making up theories.

  • @abrahamalikhanian4269
    @abrahamalikhanian4269 Před 2 lety +556

    The Hungarian language is very rich, and has absolutely unique phonetics of the consonants

    • @ggl2947
      @ggl2947 Před 2 lety +5

      The richest languages in the world are Spanish and Mandarin Chinese

    • @Agresszor1956
      @Agresszor1956 Před 2 lety +22

      @@ggl2947 nah

    • @petervagvolgyi9084
      @petervagvolgyi9084 Před 2 lety

      czcams.com/video/FRCtsHGL_I4/video.html

    • @cunjoz
      @cunjoz Před 2 lety +9

      what does it mean for a language to be rich?

    • @mindigboldogorakatmutat2922
      @mindigboldogorakatmutat2922 Před 2 lety +6

      Bro vot. The structure and operation of the language ..... a lot of words

  • @romaniaromania1914
    @romaniaromania1914 Před 2 lety +675

    I am Romanian and I love both languages!
    I don't hate Hungary personally, we have to be friends, I have a lot of Hungarian friends!
    Love to Estonia too!
    🇷🇴❤️🇭🇺❤️🇪🇪

    • @dr3amwlfy365
      @dr3amwlfy365 Před 2 lety +1

      @Berzsi 15 OMG😂😂Xddd

    • @inezmanolache1035
      @inezmanolache1035 Před 2 lety +8

      Thats kind:)

    • @monikaboros1526
      @monikaboros1526 Před 2 lety +33

      I like Romanian people, because we have a lot common things, like food, traditions, habits and I was a little bit jealous when a lot Romanian travelled back to Romania when you voted against corruption. Out of Romania and Hungary, when the political influence stops you guys are kind, hard workers, funny, helpful. we should be friends, if i need help i always knock on my neighbours door I hope, future makes it happen! tills you are cool people aswell (greeting from Hungary)

    • @kingvalon6491
      @kingvalon6491 Před 2 lety +5

      Mi sose

    • @KM-carvings
      @KM-carvings Před 2 lety +11

      When I went to Romania with my hungarian license plate, they broke my windshield wiper >:(

  • @kkjiwbsogfhpd
    @kkjiwbsogfhpd Před rokem +136

    As a Finn, I understood almost everything in estonian and even some words in hungarian. The estonian words Käsi,Veri,Vesi,Kala and Jää were all the same in finnish.The estonian words Talv (winter) in finnish is Talvi and Silm (eye) in finnish is Silmä. This video was really interesting👍

    • @Ozguryalnik
      @Ozguryalnik Před rokem +4

      Love finland, Estonaa and Hungaria and Altaic-Uralic family from Turkey

    • @Ylyan_VL
      @Ylyan_VL Před rokem +16

      ​​@@Ozguryalnik "Altaic-Uralic" is not a thing, stop trying to mix us

    • @hungarianspectator6847
      @hungarianspectator6847 Před rokem +5

      Talv/talvi sounds very similar to the Hungarian "tél" (winter). Silmä is "szem" ("sz" letter is uttered as "s") in Hungarian. Basic words are remarkably similar.

    • @jout738
      @jout738 Před 7 měsíci +1

      If they put finnish guy in there as the third person in this video. He would like instantly in under one second know the word the estonian guy said, so it would become bit too easy.

    • @jout738
      @jout738 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@hungarianspectator6847
      Its very similar between finnish and estonian, while there is bit more diffrence with hungarian, so it sometimes gets bit difficult to get the word right.

  • @katip8554
    @katip8554 Před rokem +63

    The inner linguist in me is SCREAMING right now, much love from Estonia to our Hungarian brothers and sisters 💜

    • @cogitoergosum9069
      @cogitoergosum9069 Před 11 měsíci +2

      "oh so you added the partitive case" - the Estonian
      _"Yeah" - the Hungarian_
      My inner linguist was screaming as well, but perhaps for different reasons
      Context: *Hungarian doesn't have a partitive case*

  • @sectorgovernor
    @sectorgovernor Před 2 lety +300

    I think süda (heart) 's closer connection was the Hungarian ' szügy'. This word is rarely used, it means a body part(chest?) of horses. The gy sound is a palatalized d.
    Szív is also related to this though.

    • @alfredszabo1817
      @alfredszabo1817 Před 2 lety +15

      Szia Renata! Ket evvel ezelott dolgoztam Canada_ban egy Mongol kollegaval! Keepzeld el ok ugy gondoljak a mai napig hogy a magyarok a testvereik, csak leptek a kornyekrol, meglepoen sokat tudott a magyar tortenelemrol! Az alapveto szavaink szinte ugyanazok sar-sara nap-nap, ugyanugy hivjak a naptari napot mint mi, a csillagunk utan! Megdobbento!

    • @sectorgovernor
      @sectorgovernor Před 2 lety +2

      @@alfredszabo1817 igen, velük is van egy-két érdekesen hasonló szó

    • @alfredszabo1817
      @alfredszabo1817 Před 2 lety +2

      @@sectorgovernor Igen, de tudod, hogy a hangzok modosulnak idovel, van egy ilyen nyelvtani torveny is, nem emlekszem melyik professzor mondta. A halotti beszed es a mai beszelt magyar nyelv nagyon jo pelda erre!

    • @comandanteej
      @comandanteej Před 2 lety +7

      According to the literature szív (and its older version szű) is a cognate of süda, while szügy or szegy is of unknown origin but it may originate from a Finno-Ugric word meaning breast.
      I like your idea but it's not very likely for at least two reasons:
      - If the "d" was originally there, it must have been lost rather early because in many Finno-Ugric languages, including the Ob-Ugric languages, the d is missing.
      - The Hungarian gy sound did not develop as a palatalized d, but from an earlier j-like sound (j as in English "jungle" or Hungarian "dzsungel".)

    • @petervagvolgyi9084
      @petervagvolgyi9084 Před 2 lety

      czcams.com/video/FRCtsHGL_I4/video.html

  • @laurenford9057
    @laurenford9057 Před 2 lety +448

    Estonian or Finnish comparison to Samic languages would be epic! There are more or less 10 different Sami languages that are still alive and spoken in northern Scandinavia by the native Sami people.

    • @jelenaivanovic4216
      @jelenaivanovic4216 Před 2 lety +7

      Scandinavian history and culture has always been a big interest of mine and naturally so the Sami people and their language has intrigued me. It would be so great to see that 😍

    • @jonam7589
      @jonam7589 Před 2 lety +5

      The Estonian gentleman looks as he has Saami roots as well. Saamis are from Siberia.

    • @avidavidzada4721
      @avidavidzada4721 Před 2 lety +13

      @@jonam7589 perhaps many Finns and Estonians do to some small degree

    • @Astralmess
      @Astralmess Před 2 lety +15

      ​@@jonam7589 He looks like an average Estonian.

    • @jonam7589
      @jonam7589 Před 2 lety +5

      @@Astralmess I am sure you're right, but my Estonian friends' eyes look much less. This guy has an attitude as he has been raised in the US. Cool and handsome dude.

  • @mikahamari6420
    @mikahamari6420 Před 2 lety +231

    As a Finn I am very proud that Estonian is here and represents all Finnic languages. ♥️

    • @user-ri9df7kt1l
      @user-ri9df7kt1l Před 2 lety +16

      Estonia represents only Estonia, but not all Finnic languages.
      Hungarian have the same right to represent.

    • @user-ri9df7kt1l
      @user-ri9df7kt1l Před 2 lety +1

      As far I can see, You communicate with yours brother peoples with same language, as modern Irish man and modern North-American Black man. Probably, you culture achivements are the same great.
      Hope you proud it too.

    • @mikahamari6420
      @mikahamari6420 Před 2 lety +4

      @@user-ri9df7kt1l Yes, we have very rich cultural heritage. I recommend Kalevipoeg and Kalevala in epic literature and composers like Bela Bartók, Jean Sibelius and Arvo Pärt.

    • @user-ri9df7kt1l
      @user-ri9df7kt1l Před 2 lety +1

      @@mikahamari6420 I know it, of course. But its very old. Much elder as Hollywood or Nobel price in literacy, for example
      For example, I like Irish culture. But they cant speak even mother language, they disappear right now.
      To safe own culture its nesessary to develop culture every year. Can you call 10 new books, 10 new songs in your culture for last 10 years? If not, this means, your culture disappeared.

    • @mikahamari6420
      @mikahamari6420 Před 2 lety +6

      @@user-ri9df7kt1l It is sad that many small Uralic languages have died or are dying. Hungarian, Estonian and Finnish have better situation. In every language there is uniquely coded world-view.
      I agree with you that culture is in constant change and every generation must continue and renew tradition. How we have managed, all of us know it in own heart. What I can do today is to give my own contribution, as we all can.
      Love for Irish people. ♥️

  • @GrunnenEnSeyst
    @GrunnenEnSeyst Před 2 lety +256

    I knew about the historical connection between these languages but didn't expect there'd still be this level of similarity. Very interesting and fun seeing two intelligent and wholesome people have a go at this.

    • @Stripdancer100
      @Stripdancer100 Před 2 lety +8

      Estonian and Hungarian are much less similar than English and Russian, for example. The only "similarities" are some isolated words from an ancient origin language

    • @sectorgovernor
      @sectorgovernor Před 2 lety +6

      The basic vocabulary has still some similarities

    • @makoado6010
      @makoado6010 Před 2 lety +1

      "I knew about the historical connection between these languages " not much. hungrian and ugric languages divided about 8-10.000 years ago. hungarian have more dravidian originated words than what common with fin-ugric speakers.
      this all fin-ugric line originated from 1800, from habsurgs. just becuase the autrians just like other germans arrived into europe as slave of huns when they defeted rome. and after collapse of hunnic empire they remained vasals of avars who was part of the hunnic tribe alliace. even vienna founded by avars and named bécs... this is how we hungarina still call it. and the avars was part of the seven tribe who founded the hungarian nation. (and made to to defeat holy-rome who made genocid agaist avars. and we defeted the at 907 battle of pressburg, ocupited austra and started to raid europe as punishment adn take back the stole avar goods) so if they clean our hunnic origin and force a fake identity they r rightfull ruler of hungary. later after the ww2 this theory was popular in round of communist, becuase they r just like liberals rootless people. and what they did was an early cancel culture.

    • @kevhynaleks2631
      @kevhynaleks2631 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@Stripdancer100Very much not. The basic vocabulary - what we using 70% in our life the most - are extremely close - this nothing to do with the anglish and russian. This is why they are same family - there is law how the sounds changed - ant this always happening similarly though thousands and thousands words. This is why the science sure, that they relating. Of course for eeghnorant opinions you can skip the science, but just telling things about you, not about the facts!

    • @Stripdancer100
      @Stripdancer100 Před 10 měsíci

      @@kevhynaleks2631 I don't know what you mean but Hungarian and Estonian have about 2% of words of common origin, like Hungarian and Finnish. Yes, they are linguistically closer when compared to English and Russian, that's why linguistics can root their common origin, but Hungarian is far more away from other Finno-Ugric languages. There are no understanding even between Hungarians and their closest linguistic relatives, Khanty and Mansy

  • @monikaboros1526
    @monikaboros1526 Před 2 lety +182

    actually in Hungary we learn that in our language families have some rules, like sata - száz, hal- kala how they changed in time and the “mene” in Estonian is written the earliest Hungarian document “Fehervaru rea mene hodu utu rea” with the same meaning (go/menni/mene) and it is tousand years old. thanks for this video, it is really interesting!

    • @petervagvolgyi9084
      @petervagvolgyi9084 Před 2 lety

      czcams.com/video/FRCtsHGL_I4/video.html

    • @ipurpleyouarmy3703
      @ipurpleyouarmy3703 Před 2 lety +15

      Szia Dél Koreai vagyok de tudok magyarul is látom te az vagy
      안녕하세요 저는 한국 사람이지만 헝가리어도 할 줄 압니다.😘

    • @monikaboros1526
      @monikaboros1526 Před 2 lety +8

      @@ipurpleyouarmy3703 örülök, hogy a mi nehéz nyelvünket tanultad 😊💪💪💪 Korea nagyon különleges és szép ország 😊

    • @ipurpleyouarmy3703
      @ipurpleyouarmy3703 Před 2 lety +3

      @@monikaboros1526 köszii😘😘

    • @kafk5214
      @kafk5214 Před 2 lety

      ​@@ipurpleyouarmy3703 Én meg csak simán magyar vagyok. XD

  • @CTGrell
    @CTGrell Před 2 lety +71

    so good to see this. as Hungarian I often feel like we are so separated from every other languages but this was probably the first time I felt a little connection. so weird to figure out words I've never heard before and without studying the language.

    • @HoryTB
      @HoryTB Před 7 měsíci +2

      None of the languages is separated. I learned through Hungarian that everything is connected. Not only to theEast but to the West, South and North as well. Never listen to separation. 😇

  • @avidavidzada4721
    @avidavidzada4721 Před 2 lety +63

    Betti and Markus both have such a delightful vibe and energy! Makes the video more enjoyable:)

    • @mattihp
      @mattihp Před 2 lety

      For sure! I like the sounds and faces they make whilst thinking

  • @joonatanpenttinen9940
    @joonatanpenttinen9940 Před 2 lety +214

    As a native Finnish speaker I was positively surprised how many of the Estonian words were basically same as in Finnish (with minor differences). And even Hungarian ones were quite easy to guess.

    • @nyekijudit6272
      @nyekijudit6272 Před 2 lety +16

      There is an ancient hungarian text, a funeral speech (probably from a priest. "Halotti beszéd "). When I listened to it, sounded very much like Finnish in rithm. I was suprised, and wondered how these languages could have sounded 1000 years ago.
      czcams.com/video/tfezNM_hJXc/video.html

    • @capitulatus8
      @capitulatus8 Před 2 lety +16

      I met a very nice Finnish guy few years ago and we had this game there are many similarities mostly between very old Hungarian and very old Finnish however none of us use those words nowadays. We were absolutely amazed as we felt for the first time finally we found similarities between our languages 😀

    • @taranectaria
      @taranectaria Před rokem +3

      Jep sama 😃

    • @ElisSthlm74
      @ElisSthlm74 Před rokem +4

      I agree with the Estonian similarity to Finnish, but you really have to study Hungarian and the ethymological roots to understand it from just Finnish or Estonian. You can't just guess the meaning as you can between Finnish and Estonian

    • @mathish1477
      @mathish1477 Před 7 měsíci +2

      As an Australian who has a Soumi wife and lived in Helsinki for seven years, Eesti just sounds like shortened slang Finnish

  • @avishaiedenburg1102
    @avishaiedenburg1102 Před 2 lety +223

    I would never have expected them to do so well. I knew both languages belonged to the same family, but also to two very different branches which developed in very different regions of the world.

    • @timdavis1183
      @timdavis1183 Před 2 lety +7

      They did really well! The key pointers helped but still some of them were rather tough!

    • @thomasvarecka2969
      @thomasvarecka2969 Před 2 lety +2

      Wow, how surprising ! I didn't expect them to do that well, congratulations ! I truly liked this !Nagyon tetszett nekem!

    • @sectorgovernor
      @sectorgovernor Před 2 lety +5

      Yes, Hungarian is pretty distant from Estonian (like 4000 years), but even from Ugric languages(they are much closer but Hungarian split off from them probably 2500-3000 years ago) .

    • @avishaiedenburg1102
      @avishaiedenburg1102 Před 2 lety +3

      @@sectorgovernor I thought the split happened around the time the Magyars started migrating to Europe?

    • @sectorgovernor
      @sectorgovernor Před 2 lety +4

      @@avishaiedenburg1102 From Finnic branch, it was much earlier. From Ugric branch (Khanty and Mansi) it was later, but still earlier than the migration.
      Hungarian became a separate language around 500 or 1000 BC. While if I remember well, the migration from the Ural started around 5-600 AD.

  • @roopeharju9662
    @roopeharju9662 Před rokem +24

    Finnish words_
    1:52 Käsi
    2:31 Veri
    3:20 Sarvi
    4:04 Vesi
    4:39 Talvi
    5:08 Voi
    5:55 Alla

  • @SamA-bo4tk
    @SamA-bo4tk Před 2 lety +94

    Congratulations!! This is the first video I have seen anywhere comparing Estonian & Hungarian!! Very pleased!

    • @wyqtor
      @wyqtor Před 2 lety +1

      Part of the reason is that Hungarian is very distantly related to the Finnic branch. You have to struggle and make educated guesses even with simple words.

    • @SamA-bo4tk
      @SamA-bo4tk Před 2 lety

      @@wyqtor still...

  • @loksiajattunen3372
    @loksiajattunen3372 Před 2 lety +71

    As a Native Finnish speaker I understood the words. Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are Ugrian Languages. Allthough I didn't realize Hungarian had so many words with the same root as in Finnish.

    • @balazsnagy3912
      @balazsnagy3912 Před 2 lety +12

      Finnish and Estonian are Finnic langugages, while Hungarian is Ugric.

    • @hunorcsaszar9977
      @hunorcsaszar9977 Před 2 lety +1

      Well the basic vocabulary in Hungarian has the same roots as the Finnish. I really mean to the most basic regular things

    • @1970coconut
      @1970coconut Před 2 lety +7

      Hei Loksi, I am very sorry not being taught to Finnish, Estonian, Turkish or some agglutinative language in my childhood. We were forced to learn Russian, then English and German. And our language-family was interpreted to us as to be separated to a Ugric branch (Chanti, Mansi, Hungarian), and a Finnish branch (Saami, Finnish, Estonian,...), as Balázs Nagy has answered it.
      I am not a linguist, but I can see some debates about our ancestry amongst linguists. Elements of both sides have interesting theories about our common origin of language. However there are two scientists, whose opinion are based on the same platform: Simo Parpola (Fin) and Péter Révész (Hun) showing an alternative way of thinking of ancestry. I am not convinced that Hungarian Academy of Sciences (MTA) would verify their results soon. In the same time Parpola in Finnland made a modernized language-history, I suppose.
      Finnish and Estonian are Ugrian or not, are undoubtfully related to Hungarian. Maybe the close connection was earlier than with the Chanti-Mansy are.
      The reason I choosed you to answer is your third written sentence. I am waiting for long to find a native speaker, who can I change opinions with. You wrote: you did not realize Hungarian had so many words with the same root as in Finnish. I think it is depending from the word itself one-by-one. But is interesting, which word-tree is bigger in which language. Are there any similarities in them as well? Hence I decided to answer you describing some roots with their Hungarian word-tree. I tried to eliminate all words, which are derived from agglutination or word composition.
      Let us start with the word-tree, which "kéz" is a part of.
      KÉZ (kässi - hand): KEZd - KEZdet (begin - beginning), KÉZbesít (deliver), KEZel (handle), KEZes (bailer, sponsor, but as a lamb too, that is tame, bland), KESZtyű (gloves), KESZkenő, KEndő (kerchief), KÉSZ (ready, but see also: KÉSZpénz - cash, where kész equals to kéz, because is ready to give/hand over), KÉSZít (makes, prepares originally with a handmade technique), KÉs (knife) as to be a handy tool, KÉr (ask for sg., see also: holding out his/her hand to ask some food/money), KÉrdez (ask, quaere; see also: when you ask sy, your hand is in palm-upright position).
      In case you are in the game, please describe first your Finnish word-tree of Kässi (to be comparable), then choose one of our common word (e.g. VERI), to follow. Involving your parents, grandparents, any fellow are highly acceptable.
      Merry Christmas, Hyvää Joulua!!!

    • @istvanmargittoth4268
      @istvanmargittoth4268 Před 2 lety +4

      @@1970coconut I am not a linguist either, but found many words related to English too: alter / változtat (eltér); curtail / megnyirbál (megkurtít, rövidít); court / kert (udvar); coroner (guard of 👑) / koronaőr; pompous / pompás; tore/tör; buck/bak; and there are many more

    • @1970coconut
      @1970coconut Před 2 lety +1

      @@istvanmargittoth4268 Findings are correct, but English versions are to be referred to the Latin ones.
      More to love: Heritage (Eng) < hereditatus (Lat) < eredet; Phenomenon (Hellenic, English) < fénymene(t) (FÉNY could be derived from FENN - aloft, astair, where light comes from); PEDestrian, PEDagogue (Eng) < PEDis (Lat) < Pata (Hun)...

  • @jaycorwin1625
    @jaycorwin1625 Před 2 lety +43

    That Estonian guy sounds like a native English speaker. Very interesting video.

    • @briantravelman
      @briantravelman Před 2 lety +17

      Everyone there knows English, but his was exceptional. If I just heard him talking on the street, I would think he was an American.

    • @louisfisher614
      @louisfisher614 Před 2 lety +11

      @@briantravelman Yes, very impressive considering he lives in Estonia. He speaks like a native English speaker from North America

    • @IndianaJones664
      @IndianaJones664 Před 2 lety +4

      @@briantravelman Yeah, he sounded more or less American throughout the whole video except when he said "zed" not "zee" for the letter z.

    • @reudovaniaball9548
      @reudovaniaball9548 Před 2 lety +6

      Young Estonian generations in Estonia are vary Americanized. You guys always think, that Estonians are very Russian, but that is not the case (it is not worth to alternate Russians and Estonians living in Estonia with each other, which are different things). Russia is to Estonians, especially to younger generations quite unpopular (and it has always been). That Estonian boy is a fairly typical Estonian guy from the younger generation. Proficiency in English is about 50% in Estonia and most of it is formed by the younger generations.

    • @jaycorwin1625
      @jaycorwin1625 Před 2 lety +5

      ​@@reudovaniaball9548 English is my native language, so I'm probably better able to say with confidence that that guy's English is native-sounding. It is a particular ability that is very rare and I don't think it's typical of young Estonians or anyone else who doesn't have that particular gift.

  • @elizaa.367
    @elizaa.367 Před 2 lety +184

    I love the energy of both participants! Well done!
    I got interested in Estonia after watching a few bald and bankrupt's vlogs, hope to visit soon 😊

    • @wyqtor
      @wyqtor Před 2 lety +12

      Make sure to visit the famous Rock of Tondi!

    • @laurenford9057
      @laurenford9057 Před 2 lety +2

      @@wyqtor And the Lahemaa National Park 🌲🌲🌳🌳

    • @Rider-ed2mr
      @Rider-ed2mr Před 2 lety +7

      Estonia has a small area but there is so much to see.

    • @JavidShah246
      @JavidShah246 Před 2 lety +5

      Bubyška’s secret 🤫
      😸

    • @Cymraegson
      @Cymraegson Před 2 lety

      Are u from Caucasus by the way?

  • @candicehuggins
    @candicehuggins Před 2 lety +76

    I enjoyed this! I’m American but grew up mostly in Hungary. I was pausing the video to guess the Estonian word right along with Betti. :) This was very informative as I’ve never heard of the specific similarities between the two. Great video, and they both did a wonderful job!
    Oh! And on the first word “kéz,” he guessed the question, “Who?” While it was wrong, it actually sounds very close to the Hungarian way of asking “who is” which would be “ki ez.”

    • @arpad2188
      @arpad2188 Před 2 lety +7

      Indeed! Also the only similarity between French - Qui est-ce? - and Hungarian :)

    • @candicehuggins
      @candicehuggins Před 2 lety +4

      @@arpad2188 That made me laugh!

    • @Aivar380
      @Aivar380 Před 2 lety +4

      "ki ez" (who is) in Hungarian.
      "kes on" (who is) in Estonian, official language.
      "kiä om" (who is) in South Estonian.

    • @theDuplicitous
      @theDuplicitous Před 2 lety +1

      @@candicehuggins American growing in Hungary? Wow! That is something!

    • @hannahalexy
      @hannahalexy Před 2 lety

      @@theDuplicitous I'm Australian and i grew up in Hungary!

  • @mnik5708
    @mnik5708 Před 2 lety +63

    We need a Finnish × Sami or Hungarian × Mansi comparison

    • @ZoltanHoppar
      @ZoltanHoppar Před 2 lety

      Yeah, and Bahador will pull again these above here. Because there is no more.

    • @csaba9285
      @csaba9285 Před 2 lety +5

      Yeah, but sadly it is close to impossible to find a native mansi speaker nowdays.

    • @evothenew3333
      @evothenew3333 Před 2 lety +1

      @@csaba9285
      Wikipedia says that there are 12k speakers in Russia. Well, it's a very small number but at least there are still people who speak the language.

    • @seroujghazarian6343
      @seroujghazarian6343 Před rokem

      Have them in the Urals just for funnsies, as well.

    • @saturahman7510
      @saturahman7510 Před 2 měsíci

      Finnish and hungarian have same kind of grammar. And our languages are related. When I was at school, they always told us to remember it.

  • @an0nycat
    @an0nycat Před rokem +26

    Now I want to look at such a comparison of the words of the Hungarian language with the Mansi, Khanty, Komi, Mari, Mordovian and Udmurt languages. 😅😅

  • @EthemD
    @EthemD Před 2 lety +127

    Been waiting for this since our Hungarian Turkish video! 🥰 They aren't the easiest similarities to spot, but Betti and Markus did a very good job (and Bahador as well with his hints)! Well done guys!
    Something I noticed in the video was that the word for 'butter' and 'or' is the same in Estonian 'või', as Markus pointed out, but it actually also sounds quite similar in Hungarian, 'vaj' and 'vagy', I'm sure there are many more hidden examples. 😊 As a Turkish speaker however I can also tell that none of these words sound familiar to me haha so I would guess that they are more of Uralic origin. I can also imagine, that just like Turkish and Hungarian, there are plenty of unique grammatical similarities!

    • @corinna007
      @corinna007 Před 2 lety +12

      And in Finnish, it's "Voi" for butter and "Vai" for "Or" (they also have "Tai"; The word used depends on a couple of different things).
      And "Voi" has multiple meanings as well. In addition to "Butter", it also means "Oh", as in "Voi ei" ("Oh, no"), and also "Can", as in "He/she/it can".

    • @henryviii2091
      @henryviii2091 Před 2 lety +2

      @@corinna007 Interesting, in Hungarian "or" is "vagy", so I believe it's another similarity. Oh would be "jaj", but it's funny because in Romanian vai means "oh", like in Finnish

    • @AvocadoOnBrokenTableeee
      @AvocadoOnBrokenTableeee Před 2 lety +4

      Well I'm hungariam :) I'm really proud of my language 🥲 here is the translate 😂
      Vaj- butter
      Vagy- or

    • @AvocadoOnBrokenTableeee
      @AvocadoOnBrokenTableeee Před 2 lety +1

      @@henryviii2091 well your right jaj and Vai means that "oh"🤣🤣

    • @corinna007
      @corinna007 Před 2 lety

      @@henryviii2091 I haven't studied Hungarian, but "Vagy" seems to be a word with multiple meanings as well. I've been learning Finnish for about 6 1/2 years, and the amount of homonyms still makes my head spin.
      Finnish also has the word "Tai". The difference between that and "Vai" was explained to me as being more about choice; for example, in a question like "Haluaisitko kahvia vai teetä?" ("Would you like coffee or tea?"), "Vai" implies that the only choices are coffee and tea, whereas "Tai" would mean that there are other options, such as water. So "Tai" is more general or abstract, while "Vai" is more specific.

  • @robertkukuczka6946
    @robertkukuczka6946 Před 2 lety +16

    Greetings from a Polish who speaks Hungarian.

  • @Akurvafiad
    @Akurvafiad Před 5 měsíci +5

    Here is a whole list of related words. First in Hungarian and then in Finnish:
    tenni = tehdä
    menni = mennä
    lenni = lienee
    vér = veri
    kéz = käsi
    sziv = sydan
    szem = silmä
    íny = ien
    tél = talvi
    jég = jää
    hal = kala
    víz = vesi
    szarv = sarvi
    vaj = voi
    tudni = tuntea
    nézni = nähdä
    adni = antaa
    van = olla
    volt = ovat
    rakni = rakentaa
    alatt = alla
    mi = me
    ti = te
    élni = elää
    nyelni = niellä
    nyelv =
    Száj = Suu
    Mi = mika (mit = mita)
    Méh = mehiläinen
    Kígyó = käärme
    Szó = sana
    Könny = kyynel
    Kő = kiwi
    Lök = lykätä
    Köt = kytkeä
    Kevés = kepeä
    Máj = maksaa
    Ár = ora
    Nyal = nuolla
    Név = nimi
    Vég = viimeinen
    Eleven = elävä
    Uszik = ui
    Agy = aivo
    Kér = kerjätä (to beg)
    Éj = yö
    And even: (Eleven hal úszik a víz alatt = Elävä kala ui veden alla.)

  • @l1lium
    @l1lium Před 11 měsíci +8

    And in finnish: 🇫🇮
    Hand - käsi
    Blood - veri
    Honey - hunaja (mesi=nectar)
    Horn - sarvi
    Water - vesi
    Winter - talvi
    Butter - voi
    Under - alla
    Fish - kala
    Ice - jää
    Go - mennä
    Eye - silmä

  • @you-know-who9023
    @you-know-who9023 Před 2 lety +51

    Although I studied french in school I actually studied Estonian in my early 40s which for someone with English as a mother (and father) tongue was some journey. However I now consider Estonian as my additional language.
    As I advanced through the different stages we were joined by Hungarians and Finn's as others dropped out.
    These similarities are actually amazing and surprising as Hungarians found Estonian difficult to learn.
    Now I can see that the difficulty was not necessarily vocabulary ( although Estonian used many loan words) but differences in the amount of case endings , word order and pronunciation.
    Bahador's hints were very helpful and helping to break it down leaving both speakers more confident about each others language.
    Wonderful! 🙋👍😀

  • @mst7155
    @mst7155 Před rokem +7

    This channel is definitely one of the most interesting on utube!!!!! There are many linguists or language experts that talk about unexpected links between languages, but never bother themselves whith examples.... This channel is prooving a lot of " linguistic theories" in a very convincing way. A lot of thanks to all the people involved in this beautiful work!!!!

  • @warnerbf
    @warnerbf Před rokem +17

    Estonian sounds very similar to Finnish. 😀😀 I'm not a native speaker of Finnish but I learned the language as an exchange student about 30 years ago. I was able to visit Estonia 5 years ago and I was amazed at how similar it sounded to Finnish. Hungarian is totally new to me. All three languages are indeed very beautiful. Terveisiä Costa Ricasta! (greetings from Costa Rica). ✌🏿👍

  • @louisfisher614
    @louisfisher614 Před 2 lety +29

    It's incredibly fascinating to see the development of languaged and how these changes occur over the course of thousands of years!

  • @Rihodejaneiro
    @Rihodejaneiro Před 2 lety +4

    About time someone made this kind of video. Been waiting for it quite a while!

  • @Vierre01
    @Vierre01 Před rokem +14

    Elképesztő, nem volt még ilyen -hűha- élményem, mindig azt hittem, a magyar sehová sem illeszthető, de az, hogy az észt nyelvvel ennyire direkt kapcsolódások vannak, az komolyan boldoggá tesz. 🤩🤩

    • @James-gk8ip
      @James-gk8ip Před rokem +1

      Végülis 13 nyelv van a családban (talán több is).

    • @livmarlin4259
      @livmarlin4259 Před 5 měsíci

      Are you interested in a used condom?

  • @martindegn690
    @martindegn690 Před 2 lety +2

    This was so wholesome, really needed this. Happy holiday!

  • @nikke2404
    @nikke2404 Před rokem +11

    I'm neither Estonian nor Hungarian, but as a Finn this is quite entertaining to watch because words sounds so similar for us as well

    • @rah164
      @rah164 Před rokem +2

      because of uralic family language?

  • @pekkatoivonen287
    @pekkatoivonen287 Před 2 lety +86

    Most of the Estonian words are the same in Finnish too.
    vesi
    veri
    käsi
    sarvi (sarv)
    talvi (talv/tali)
    voi (või)
    alla (all; in my own Finnish dialect I say 'al')
    kala
    jää
    mene (mine; I would say 'mee' in my dialect)
    silmä (silm)

    • @corinna007
      @corinna007 Před 2 lety

      Which dialect do you speak? I've been learning Finnish for about 6 years now, and I know some puhekieli and slang from different regions but the dialects are still something I'm trying to learn more of.

    • @briantravelman
      @briantravelman Před 2 lety +8

      Yeah, Estonian and Finnish are very similar to the point where they're mutually inteligable

    • @jonam7589
      @jonam7589 Před 2 lety +2

      aren't they the same people just different borders?

    • @ErtK
      @ErtK Před 2 lety +10

      @@briantravelman I wouldn't go that far. If you're Estonian and pull up the first article in a Finnish newspaper there are small chances you'll even understand the context of it. Unless there's some illustrations giving it away. For example the first article I see from Iltasanomat today:
      Pendolinot törmäsivät Tampereen rautatieasemalla: ”Näyttivät ottaneen reilusti osumaa”
      An Estonian with no Finnish exposure would understand Tampere from here.

    • @Mediaflashmob
      @Mediaflashmob Před 2 lety +6

      @@ErtK I don't think so, man. Even as a Russian native (non-estonian) I got your "rautatie" which is "raudtee" in Estonian. Pendolino ia s famous Italian type of train. "Asema" probably means "station", which is "jaam" in Estonian. As you see now, it's not a big challenge even for me non-native one. For the native Estonian it would be much easier I guess.

  • @balazszsido1838
    @balazszsido1838 Před 2 lety +5

    Very cool comparison of the two languages. Great selection of words to point out the similarities :)

  • @memy4460
    @memy4460 Před 2 lety +16

    This was surprisingly heartwarming to watch. It's nice to introduce to youngsters other languages and some familiarities. This could prevent future conflicts. Nive idea. V4 forever.

  • @takacsadamaprilia
    @takacsadamaprilia Před 2 lety +3

    This video is freaking awesome.... Thank to all of you about that.

  • @jahanas22
    @jahanas22 Před 2 lety +5

    Another great collab. I was happy to get quite a few from each side.

    • @Mo-zh2sc
      @Mo-zh2sc Před 2 lety

      Are you Finnish?

    • @jahanas22
      @jahanas22 Před 2 lety

      @@Mo-zh2sc no, I just like studying languages.

  • @SandraFalke
    @SandraFalke Před rokem +10

    So cool! I'm an Estonian living in Germany so I always get asked which languages Estonian is related to. I never had good examples for Hungarian, only in Finnish. My best friend is from Hungary, also living in Germany, but we've never gotten into linguistical details. For one we'll be having a blast over these next time we see each other, and secondly, this will improve my usual explanation for my language a lot. 😃

  • @SqueezePl
    @SqueezePl Před 16 dny +2

    You're all deligthful xD What a fantastic example of interesting facts rooted in nation's history it is! Thanks for this video, really mind opening. Cheers from Poland to all Hungarians and Estonians, you are so sweet :-)

  • @nuckingfuts4721
    @nuckingfuts4721 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Bahador! You and your channel are an international treasure!

  • @kozakrob98
    @kozakrob98 Před 2 lety +9

    I am a native Hungarian speaker and also been learning English since I was 8y/o (I'm 23 atm). I just wanted to say that I found this video pretty entertaining. Great job! :)

  • @YummYakitori
    @YummYakitori Před 2 lety +37

    More comparison between Uralic languages please. Maybe you can include some of the lesser known languages spoken in Russia as well :)

    • @Yorgos2007
      @Yorgos2007 Před 2 lety +5

      I would suggest Manysi. There is a video here on CZcams about numbers in Manysi, some of them are really impressively similar to Hungarian

    • @erigabu
      @erigabu Před rokem +1

      @@Yorgos2007 because Manysi (and Khantyi) is the most closest relatives to Hungarian.
      Hungarian and Estonian (and Finnish) have 6000 years different evolution in time, but in Manysi and Hungarian only have 3000 years (what is still a lot).
      But still interesting in the similarities on this video.

  • @angelcare5969
    @angelcare5969 Před 2 lety +2

    This was soooo good! Thank you.

  • @P.B0209
    @P.B0209 Před 2 lety +15

    We started from the east together, but the Estonians went north. Greetings from Hungary! ❤Estonia

  • @Gaeill
    @Gaeill Před 2 lety +9

    Finno Ugric. These comparisons are things that have always fascinated me. Mari, Komi. Karelian, etc a wealth to choose from. What you are doing in these series, is continuing my education in pursuits halted long ago. Thank you and You have to tackle the Celts.

  • @suzannaferenczi6823
    @suzannaferenczi6823 Před rokem +5

    This was delightfully fascinating! Thank you. I'm Hungarian living in Australia for over 40 years. I made a friend with Estonian origin about 15 years ago. We both remembered from our previous studies that our languages are in the same family so we researched the similarities. I still got the information. It lists basic words like earth, night, day, sky, blood, ect. Even geographical expressions like the name of North, South, East and West determined by the position of the sun, as a reference to the ancient believes are similar. Very interesting, thank you.

  • @johngalt4657
    @johngalt4657 Před rokem +1

    Love the video box setup! Innovative and cool! 😃👍❤

  • @gurgenartsimovich8893
    @gurgenartsimovich8893 Před 2 lety +26

    I knew Estonian and Hungarian shared the same origin but I thought they had drifted away from each other so much to have any close cognates. This was a very good and interesting video. Thank you!

    • @vulc1
      @vulc1 Před 2 lety +1

      There are still a hundred or so cognates left

  • @garyn8316
    @garyn8316 Před 2 lety +26

    The geographical location of where Hungarian is spoken is truly fascinating considering all the languages that surround it.

    • @christopherellis2663
      @christopherellis2663 Před 2 lety +1

      I live in Timişoara, Banat Region, România. (Temesvár) not far from Szeged. ă = õ German, Serbian , Rroma, Romanian , Hungarian., plus...

    • @SamA-bo4tk
      @SamA-bo4tk Před 2 lety +1

      @@christopherellis2663 Interesting though the earliest documented Hungarian state was established in the 9th century, Romans had been around well before that.

    • @wyqtor
      @wyqtor Před 2 lety +2

      Romanian too, if you think about it. The closest Romance-speaking region is Friuli, more than 500 km away from the western tip of Romania, as well as some pockets of Aromanian and Meglenoromanian spoken in Northern Macedonia, Greece, and Albania. Some weird things happening in Pannonia and the Carpathian basin, were Slavic languages somehow haven't caught on, leaving the Southern Slavs separated from the other Slavs.

    • @e1gr3co
      @e1gr3co Před 2 lety

      @@SamA-bo4tk ? Dou you mean the wallachians?
      What about Atilla? HUNgarian kingdom isn't founded in the 5th century?

    • @James-gk8ip
      @James-gk8ip Před rokem

      @@e1gr3co 9th

  • @frobinson6876
    @frobinson6876 Před 2 lety +2

    Superb video. Excellent concept. Great participants. Wonderful languages.

  • @pegasusapollosson3747
    @pegasusapollosson3747 Před 2 lety +10

    It's so interesting to hear/watch languages from a completely separate family than PIE. It's so foreign, yet so close.

  • @cimbalok2972
    @cimbalok2972 Před 2 lety +14

    Great choice of languages and presenters. Thank you! I noticed that Hungarian and Finnish vowels are similar but I don't know if they have a lot of cognates like Hungarian and Estonian.

    • @corinna007
      @corinna007 Před 2 lety

      Finnish and Estonian definitely have many cognates. Not sure about Finnish and Hungarian, though.

    • @jabbalone2068
      @jabbalone2068 Před 2 lety +4

      I would say, that Finnish and Hungarian have much more cognates than Estonian and Hungarian, because Estonian uses a lot of loanwords from balto-slavic and germanic languages. Finnish is much more conservative and uses much more words with uralic origin than Estonian. So the chance to find cognates should be higher between Finnish and Hungarian than between Estonian and Hungarian

  • @trixkk
    @trixkk Před 2 lety +11

    Wow! It's amazing! I know that these two languages are from one language family and it was so interesting to see these real examples. 🤗 I am also a native Hungarian and speak some more foreign languages. Maybe Estonian will be my next favourite.

  • @udihu
    @udihu Před 2 měsíci +1

    This was a really great watch, koszonom! ;)

  • @corinna007
    @corinna007 Před 2 lety +45

    One step closer to having Finnish on the channel! 😁 This one is really interesting to me; especially Estonian, since it's so close to Finnish (which I've been learning for a few years now). I actually guessed all of the Estonian words except for Sarv, because I've never come across it, and I thought "Täis" was "Tässä" ("Here"), but once they said what it was, I understood that it's "Täysi" ("Full", "Complete"). It's funny that the Finnish word for winter is "Talvi", so the two Estonian words put together.

    • @timdavis1183
      @timdavis1183 Před 2 lety +5

      A segment on false friends would be great

    • @reudovaniaball9548
      @reudovaniaball9548 Před 2 lety +1

      It is very hard or almost impossible to Estonians to pronounce the diphthong 'äy'. Instead is then 'äi'.The word 'tässä' is not used in active Estonian in that meaning.

    • @vulc1
      @vulc1 Před 2 lety

      Can't you enjoy and appreciate the Estonian language here? Do you need to constantly talk about Finnish?

    • @reudovaniaball9548
      @reudovaniaball9548 Před 2 lety +1

      @@vulc1 ​ You have a point. But Finnish gives more variety. Moreover, Finnish has retained more similarities to Hungarian than Estonian has (which does not appear here). And Finnish is probably the most archaic Uralic language and certainly much more conservative than Estonian. But in this case the words and expressions offered are the same as in Finnish. It does not make much difference from the position of the Hungarian language, whether the language in question is Estonian or Finnish. There are probably a few words that can be found in Estonian and Hungarian and not in Finnish, but now you supposedly have to settle for Estonian 'malev' (Estonian military unit; volunteer formation) and Hungarian 'Malév' (Magyar Légiközlekedési Vállalat).

    • @vulc1
      @vulc1 Před 2 lety

      @@reudovaniaball9548 To me it just appears as a form of linguistic chauvinism. Also something that Karelians are familiar with - Finns treating their language as an inferior Finnish dialect instead of seeing Karelian as an independent and separate language.

  • @yope533
    @yope533 Před 2 lety +6

    This was actually super interesting to watch and also to see the similarities to finnish language, as a native finnish speaker

  • @reydelacosa
    @reydelacosa Před 2 lety +12

    Man these folks were excellent!

  • @pillancs1006
    @pillancs1006 Před 7 měsíci +4

    You guys are super! Its so interesting. Greeting from Hungary!❤

  • @sowhat249
    @sowhat249 Před 2 lety +18

    I remember, when I discovered this channel, I watched many of the available videos, and I knew Magyar was an Uralic language, and I made a request for Hungarian and Finnish.
    Bahador favorited my comment, but that was long ago, maybe over 2 years ago, and since, I realised the two have drifted away from each other a lot, and didn't ever expect a video like this.
    My mood is 100% better, now that I've seen this video.
    I'd like to make a new request now. Maybe you could find a Gorani person (slavic minority from Kosovo) and compare their language to some other Slavic language. Maybe I'll get this video two years from now. Who knows.
    Bahador, thank you for existing.

    • @BahadorAlast
      @BahadorAlast  Před 2 lety +4

      Thank you! Perhaps that day will come as well. Thanks a lot for your patience:)

    • @amarillorose7810
      @amarillorose7810 Před 2 lety +3

      Gorani are Serbs from Kosovo, they speak the Prizren-Timok dialect of the Serbian language (Призренско-тимочки дијалект/Prizrensko-timočki dijalekt), that dialect is spoken in Eastern and South Serbia and parts of Kosovo. But it would be interesting to compare the Serbian Prizren-Timok dialect and, for example, the Croatian Chaikavian dialect, which are slightly different from the standard Serbian and Croatian.

    • @user-ri9df7kt1l
      @user-ri9df7kt1l Před 2 lety

      @@amarillorose7810 to be fair , we should ask also Bulgarian version

    • @theDuplicitous
      @theDuplicitous Před 2 lety

      @@BahadorAlast are you from Iran?

  • @kullulillu
    @kullulillu Před 2 lety +6

    It's so good to see something like that! Cheers and much love from Estonia 🇪🇪! 🍅

  • @unitariansavage8513
    @unitariansavage8513 Před 2 lety +12

    4:48
    He became finnish all of a sudden.
    "Voi, voi, voi..."

  • @TheHUNAndris
    @TheHUNAndris Před 2 lety +2

    Great video, thanks!

  • @krizso76
    @krizso76 Před 17 dny +1

    Amazing! Enjoyed it! Greetings from Budapest!

  • @GaryJoo419
    @GaryJoo419 Před rokem +3

    Great work! I am from Miskolc too though. Keep going guys !

  • @StrangerSpace
    @StrangerSpace Před rokem +9

    Interesting: so the word "blood" have the same root in all Finno-Ugric(Uralic) languages: Mari, Khanty: "vűr" ("вўр"), Udmurt: "vir" ("вир"), Finnish: "verenkierto", etc.. Also Russian language word "Vurdalak" ("Вурдалак") (Vampire, sometimes - Werewolf) seem to have relation to this word!.. Nearly all the words you mentioned are like this word - have the same root in all Finno-Ugric languages..

  • @thomasrobertson2225
    @thomasrobertson2225 Před 2 lety +3

    Good video! My brother studied languages at the Defense Language Institute Foreign Language Center in California. The pace of study was intense. Students had to master the language course in 36-64 weeks. Psychologically it was very difficult, but fortunately he was helped by Yuriy Ivantsiv's book "Polyglot Notes. Practical tips for learning foreign languages”. The book " Polyglot Notes" became a desk book for my brother, because it has answers to all the problems that any student of a foreign language has to face. Thanks to the author of the channel for this interesting video! Good luck to everyone who studies a foreign language and wants to realize their full potential!

  • @Felix-ij1tc
    @Felix-ij1tc Před 2 lety +19

    I have been to Estonia many times! Tallinn, Tartu, Saaremaa, Vassilina, Kallaste, Narva, Türi, Pärnu, Viljandi...
    It was so cool to understand voi and vesi in the grocery stores.
    I am a Hungarian from Sweden
    Greetings to my Finnish, Estonian and Polish brothers and sisters🙂 🇭🇺🇪🇪🇫🇮🇵🇱🇸🇪

  • @aworysse
    @aworysse Před 2 lety +6

    This just made me smile all the way long.

  • @saintuser
    @saintuser Před 2 lety +4

    very interesting, thank you for that experiment. Hello from Tallinn

  • @i_hate_you_tube_rewind_2014
    @i_hate_you_tube_rewind_2014 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Azt a terembúráját! :D Nice video! Thanks for the video! Cheers from Hungary!

  • @piretkivi3218
    @piretkivi3218 Před 2 lety +6

    Estonian: Elav kala ujub vee all
    Finnish: Elävä kala ui veden alla
    Hungarian: Eleven hal úszkál a víz alatt
    (An alive fish swims under water)
    I am a bit surprised you did not use that old and famous classic sentence.

  • @pepederien5096
    @pepederien5096 Před 2 lety +18

    "Käsitöö" is an Estonian word, and means handcraft(ed). But in Hungary has a similar meaning the word "készítő", that means crafter. ;) So if you go to Estonia, and you'll see the sign of "käsitöö", that'll mean, they're selling handcrafted stuffs. ;)
    Also the Estonian õhu means air, that means heat or hot air in Hungarian if we remove the first letter of õ from the word. ;)
    Additionally the Estonian "vaim", that's the spirit or soul, has a different meaning in Hungarian. It means butter. But when I'm thinking about the "vaim"/"vaj", that is the meaning/fat of the milk in Hungarian, as the soul is the meaning of the body. ;)

    • @inimene6
      @inimene6 Před rokem +1

      Air is actually 'õhk' in Estonian. 'Õhu' also means air, but in a different form.

    • @comandanteej
      @comandanteej Před rokem +1

      It's funny... Estonian käsi is a cognate to Hungarian kéz, and I believe töö must be related to Hungarian tesz (make/do). But Hungarian készítő (creator) comes from the word kész (ready, done) via készít (produce, make ready) which is unrelated.

    • @emil3458
      @emil3458 Před rokem +3

      Finnish person here! "käsityö" in Finnish is handicraft. So all 3 languages pretty similar.

  • @evahernberg2624
    @evahernberg2624 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Very interesting. Greatings from Finland.

  • @charleskristiansson1296
    @charleskristiansson1296 Před 2 lety +1

    What an interesting video with Betti and Markus!

  • @A_Z716
    @A_Z716 Před rokem +2

    Super interesting! Thanks :)

  • @susanlegeza7562
    @susanlegeza7562 Před 2 lety +5

    A hungarian here! Amazing,had a friend of estonia, we often played this!

  • @hannofranz7973
    @hannofranz7973 Před 2 lety +4

    I have no idea of either of these languages but it was really interesting to watch how many words they could figure out. Even though, I'd take for granted that you wouldn't understand the other language at a spoken level.

  • @elenaylitalo1624
    @elenaylitalo1624 Před měsícem

    So cool to realise the “primal” words are still similar, like body parts, seasons, water etc. I love learning about other languages, if there’s ever a video where you need a Finn I volunteer as tribute!!😄 greetings from Budapest

  • @eskolarkarin91
    @eskolarkarin91 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I loved this video!

  • @doncorleone3082
    @doncorleone3082 Před 2 lety +11

    The contestants are very smart because some of those were tough even though I know they stem from the same root after several thousand years there have been natural changes

  • @Vizivirag
    @Vizivirag Před 2 lety +10

    Finally some uralic comparison! Love this video.

  • @justkornel4640
    @justkornel4640 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you so much, i was looking for a video like that for a long time!

  • @frostyplayz2233
    @frostyplayz2233 Před 2 lety +1

    Azta mindenit!
    Good job!

  • @renatofigueiredo603
    @renatofigueiredo603 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you very much for this one.

  • @user-jy9eo8en8x
    @user-jy9eo8en8x Před 2 lety +12

    Fantastic! I am Belorussian, I know that plenty of words are similar in all or most slavic languages, but I never thought the Hungarian and Estonian seem so close (though I knew that they are from the same Finno-Ugric language group)

    • @mullergyula4174
      @mullergyula4174 Před rokem +1

      They are very far in vocabulary. These words are the exceptions, but show that we have some connection thousands of years ago.

    • @le_synthesis2585
      @le_synthesis2585 Před rokem +2

      He chose the most similar words on purpose. Many other words, even cognates, are not that similar. Can you guess that "fiu" and "poika" are the same root?

    • @user-jy9eo8en8x
      @user-jy9eo8en8x Před rokem

      @@le_synthesis2585 I understand :)
      But in fact this is a common situation. Russian and Belarusian or Ukrainian languages are very close to each other, but even there you can hardly understand Belorusian "dziakuj" (BTW, similar to Danish Tank, Englis Thank or German Danke) if you know only Russian "spasibo"

    • @le_synthesis2585
      @le_synthesis2585 Před rokem

      @@user-jy9eo8en8x Finnish and Hungarian are possibly as far from each other as Russian and English. You can find some strikingly similar IE cognates there, like brother/brat, sister/sestra, apple/yabloko, mother/mat' (mater'), to sit/sidet', to stand/stoyat'. But these selected words make a wrong picture.

  • @zoltanbereczki8067
    @zoltanbereczki8067 Před 2 lety +3

    For the first word "kéz" the Estonian guy mentions first comes to his mind "Who is?" which should be mentioned in Hungarian "ki ez?" which actually also sounds the same.

    • @jokemon9547
      @jokemon9547 Před 2 lety +1

      The Estonian "kes" was formed from two different things, similarly to Hungarian "ki ez". Those two words were Finnic "ken" + "se/see", with "ken" meaning "who" and "se" meaning "it" or "that" depending on context. Finnish also still has "ken", but it is more archaic or poetic now with "kuka" being more common. Using "ken" in Finnish, one could say "ken se on" meaning "who is it". Although grammatical case forms of "ken" are far more common than the base word, for example "kenestä" being the elative singular form of it and could be used like "kenestä on kyse" meaning something along the lines of "who is in question".

  • @erikavas3047
    @erikavas3047 Před 14 hodinami +1

    Please can you make a video on Hungarian- Finnish/ Hungarian - Chanti- Manysi.
    Awesome job, can’ t wait to hear more!!!

    • @BahadorAlast
      @BahadorAlast  Před 11 hodinami

      Would love to! Just need fluent speakers who are interested in participating

  • @Imperiusism
    @Imperiusism Před 2 lety +4

    The girl has a really beatiful smile and the guy seems pretty confident in himself. Overall, great guests!

  • @uzeela
    @uzeela Před rokem +4

    Thank you for sharing!.. I am Hungarian 1st generation in America..I do speak Hungarian This was awesome.. Would love to hear other similar languages to Hungarian.. The Mansi language in Asia has many similar words to Hungarian..

  • @billanderson9908
    @billanderson9908 Před 2 lety +1

    Great! It's like finding the missing link.

  • @alekseimilovanov8893
    @alekseimilovanov8893 Před 2 lety +7

    I may also notice that Ersya (Erza) language as finno-ugric relative has many same words:
    ked' (soft d like kett) - kez - käsi
    med' (the same soft d) - mez - mesi
    süro - szarv-sarv
    ved' (soft d) - viz - vesi
    ver' (verr or ver') - ver - veri
    tele - tel, teli - talv
    oi - vaj - või
    selme - szem - silm
    kal - hal - kala
    etc.

    • @1970coconut
      @1970coconut Před 2 lety +1

      Privet, Aleksei Milovanov! How deep do you know Ersya? I wonder if there is relation between ved' and the next ones which i know only in English and Hungarian:
      1. Drives - Vezet
      2. Carries - Visz,
      3. Backwards - Vissza,
      4. Takes - Vesz,
      5. Wet - Nedves,
      6. Savour - Íz
      7. Drinks - Isz(ik).
      Thanks a lot!

  • @seand6482
    @seand6482 Před 2 lety +18

    It would be amazing if you could do a Baltic comparison including the lesser known dialects. Same with standard Georgian and the other Kartvelian languages!

    • @you-know-who9023
      @you-know-who9023 Před 2 lety +1

      @ Sean
      Apart from the now extinct (as of 2003 when last native/mother tongue speaker passed away) Livonian language only Finnish and Estonian exist as finno-ugric uralic languages in the Baltics. The other two main Baltic languages are Latvian and Lithuanian which have different roots
      Having said that Estonian also includes another dialect known as vuru keelt vuru language is similar to Estonian and can be mutually understood.
      Similar anomalies probably appear in Finland as well.
      Latvian and Lithuanian are apparently the surviving remnants of Prussians who created the United German empire in 1870 .🙋

    • @seand6482
      @seand6482 Před 2 lety

      @Prof. Spudd Also Latgalian and Samogitian

    • @vulc1
      @vulc1 Před 2 lety

      @@you-know-who9023 Võro is not an Estonian dialect, it is a separate language with its own literary standard. Võro has also its own dialectal variant called Võro-Seto (or simply Seto) that is spoken both in Estonia and Russia.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B5ro_language

    • @laurilukas9383
      @laurilukas9383 Před 2 lety

      @@vulc1 võro, mulgi and seto are all estonian dialects and close to formal estonian, which is based on northern dialects. Actually, maybe seto is a bit different but tartu, võru and mulgi dialects are very hard to separate and are all considered as (now almost extinct) southern estonian language

  • @maayanhaza6178
    @maayanhaza6178 Před 2 lety +45

    Hungarian is always been a language that I found to be interesting because I felt like it was just so different. There are around 70,000 Hungarian speakers in Israel.

    • @RoyalHungarianAF
      @RoyalHungarianAF Před 2 lety +4

      And much more with Hungarian roots who don't used the language anymore.

    • @olegtaktarov5300
      @olegtaktarov5300 Před 2 lety

      They speak in Hungarian. BUT NOT HUNGARIANS. JEWS.

    • @tommeiner9983
      @tommeiner9983 Před 2 lety

      @@olegtaktarov5300 By that logic there are no Hungarians at all. Just Germans, Slavs and Jews who speak Hungarian.

    • @olegtaktarov5300
      @olegtaktarov5300 Před 2 lety

      @@tommeiner9983 Jews are not HUNs. That's the end of the sentence. they speak hungarian but not hungarian’s

    • @tommeiner9983
      @tommeiner9983 Před 2 lety

      @@olegtaktarov5300 Huns are not Hungarians in the first place...

  • @milan.yzd1
    @milan.yzd1 Před 2 lety +1

    Tetszik a videó! Jó lett 😁

  • @Zolega89
    @Zolega89 Před 2 lety +12

    Blood donation in Estonia: Thank you veri much