This video was created to help people to setup the cobbler machine, I went with a lot of issues, hoping I can help others with my experience with the machine.
You’re a freakin STUD! Thank you so much for making this video! Really wanting to make mine work and I’m much more confident these changes will help!!!!
Wow young man I have had this sewing machine for about a year and I have had a lot of trouble making it work right. I followed everything you said and now this thing works like a singer machine. You are gifted young man. Thank you.
Awesome video, man!!! Best one I’ve seen so far!! This machine is like wild horse and you tamed the hell out of it!! Hats off, kid. Can’t wait to see what cool things you’ll put together with it.
Outstanding video. Anyone just getting one of these beasts will do themselves a favor watching this video. Some very good tips not seen in other videos.
Watch all of Mainely Acres videos. He has a lot of experience with this machines and he will answer your questions if you write to him. For parts for these machines he recommends Bantam Saddle and Tack store. They stock parts and improved parts for these machines. I noticed that at the three o’clock position your bobbin action bar shows thru past the bobbin well. That may be one of your problems with breakage of thread. At the three o’clock position the bar should stop right at the end before it goes past the bobbin well.
My assumption is that you have installed the needle correctly, and that the top thread is correctly threaded from the reel through the machine to the needle eye. In addition, the bobbin is correctly wound and inserted in the shuttle so that it rotates counterclockwise when the thread is pulled. If this assumption is correct, there are two likely reasons for thread breakage. 1. The needle position at the point of maximum downward stroke. 2. The timing of the shuttle carrier (This carries the shuttle and bobbin). Needle position Before the next step NOTE the position of the handwheel (12 o’clock) and the shuttle carrier (the tongue or side piece will be at 3 o’clock) Take out the bobbin, shuttle, and shuttle carrier (the piece with the gear/pinion on the underside). Turn the hand wheel clockwise until the needle is at its lowest position (handwheel at 3 o’clock). At this position, the top of the needle eye should be level with the bottom of the recess that shuttle carrier sits in. This can be difficult to see. A good light and even a magnifier may be helpful. If the needle eye is higher than this, drop the needle shaft lower. This is done by first locating the connection link at the top of the needle shaft. You will see a screw that passes through the pivot. This screw locks the link to the needle shaft. Slacken this screw and move the needle shaft down so that the needle eye is in the correct position. Tighten the screw, but before doing so make sure that the needle shaft has not rotated. The needle eye needs to face along the bed or arm of the machine. The maximum downward position of the needle is important as it is part of the movement that forms a loop in the thread that the shuttle hook picks up. If the needle eye is too high, a satisfactory loop is not formed, and may cause the thread to jam between the shuttle and shuttle wall which breaks the thread. Re-assemble the shuttle carrier in the original position. It may be necessary to slight “rock” the handwheel until the gear/pinion on the shuttle carrier engages with the rack. then insert the shuttle with bobbin. Timing or position of the Shuttle Carrier My timing setup differs from the video. It followed the study of the machine movements and the reason for thread breakage. Since, I have found that other owners use the same approach. Also, after resolving the problem, I was able to decipher the Chinese instructions to understand that they use the same timing marks. To check the timing, open the bobbin cover plate and look down on the shuttle and shuttle carrier. NOTE it is preferable that the needle is not threaded for this check. Rotate the handwheel to the 9 o’clock position. Be accurate with this position. Then visually note the position of the shuttle carrier. You are looking to see if the upright edge of the shuttle carrier is just covering the needle slot. This setting is critical to the functioning of the machine. There is a little latitude in this setting but not more than just beginning to cover the slot to almost fully covering the slot. A wrong position can lead to either the hook not picking up the bobbin thread, or the top thread being trapped below the shuttle and breaking. The rotational position of the shuttle is adjusted by slackening the two nuts on the bar that moves the rack, which rotates the shuttle carrier. Once the nuts are loosened, the bar can be moved laterally. The bar only needs moving slightly (either way) to rotate the shuttle carrier to the correct position. Re-tighten the nuts, then rotate the handwheel a couple of times. Re-check the alignment of the shuttle carrier with the needle slot. Re-adjust if necessary. You may need to do this a few time to get it right! When the alignment is correct, the hook on the shuttle will pass through the loop formed by the needle. Now repeat the routine for picking up the bobbin thread. If the needle stroke position is now correct and the shuttle carrier aligns with the needle slot, the machine should collect the bobbin thread, and importantly, sew without breaking the thread … assuming the threading and tensions are correct.
Thanks for the good video. I’ve got one the same I have been using for a while. I noticed that the tension plate is missing from your bobbin tensioner. Possible you removed it or it’s just missing. It was a quick shot and hard to confirm. Let me know if you want me to send a pic of my one. Cheers
Thank you for this video. Ive been searching for helpful videos so i can figure out what my machine is doing wrong. would you be able to film you polishing the areas you suggested. Id iike to see your technique so i can be sure im doing it correctly.
Alfonso… thank you for this video and thanks for the encouragement to keep working the problems. I’ve watched all of the Mainly Acres videos as well, but my machine will not pick up the thread… any other thoughts? I have made all of the modifications you have mentioned…
Hello. Perhaps you can help. I bought the Chinese shoe patch machine in October of 2022. I spent a month watching videos, etc. For some reason I could not get the machine to pick up the bobbin thread. So frustrated I put in the closet for a year. Pulled it out recently, and finally fixed the bobbin thread issue. Once the bobbin pickup worked, then I had an issue of the upper thread breaking. Watched some more videos, and did some intense sanding of all the bobbin parts. That stopped the breaking. Now, the thread is too loose. Before I just immediately tighten the bobbin spring, can you tell what would be causing the bottom thread to be too loose on my finished tests? In fact it was your video that encouraged me to sand everything down and that worked for the breaking.
That is a really good video. I've had mine working for a while and it does a great job. A problem I had that you didn't mention is the needle wasn't set deep enough and kept breaking the thread.
@@munfrosty The rod that holds the needle can move up and down. It is held in place by a set screw just below the top of the rod. turn the handle until the needle is at it's lowest position. at that point you should be able to feel the needle below the arm that holds the bobbin. If you can't, loosen that set screw and advance the needle untin you can feel it and tighten the set screw..If you still break thread, advance the needle holder about 1/16" amd try it again. You shouldn't have any problem after that. Good luck.
Please, I need help. I have a brand new one like yours but the handle refuses to turn beyond about one third of a revolution. It came with a sample of stitched fabric, so it must have been working before it was sent. It stops with a clunk.
Another video (of the many I have viewed) had the owner setting the handle at 12 0' clock position and then the bobbin cup was placed into its well with its "wall" centered at the 3 0'clock position. It looked like your index mark was one tooth out (towards you,) when you dropped the cup into the well judging by the index marks you had made. This may have led you to trim that wall to make it work. Just sayin! Hope I'm wrong!
I'm thinking he would have to..the teeth on those things are so coarse and sharp they can actually leave a little series of cuts in the top grain of good leather. I threw my chinese mistake in the garbage and bought a Cowboy Outlaw..been smiling (and stitching) ever since.
I see you have some modifications on that machine do you have any videos looks like you have that copper tubing on the backside of it for the lifting arm and that real how does that work
Hello, I have recently received my machine and I have put the wooden base like yours. I put the wheel on but it only moves between 11:00 and 7:00 and I have not managed to put it at 12:00. It's locked and I don't want to force anything. What I can do. Thank you in advance for your time and help. 🇨🇦
Thank you for making this video. I am wondering if you would be able to help me with my machine breaking needles and the bobbin winder doesn't work. Please let me know if you are able to advise me or not. Thank you so much.
Remove parts until you find the issue, start with the bobbin, the needle, check the bearing, and also to be sure behind the wheels the legs are in the right track
How come you didnt buy a real singer 29K or patent elastic or adler? They are real machines and made since the 1800s. And also they can be bought for the same price as that chinese version.
I like your video and I got my machine around the same time so thanks for your help.
You’re a freakin STUD! Thank you so much for making this video! Really wanting to make mine work and I’m much more confident these changes will help!!!!
Wow young man I have had this sewing machine for about a year and I have had a lot of trouble making it work right. I followed everything you said and now this thing works like a singer machine. You are gifted young man. Thank you.
Nice video. You pack alot of practical information, with visuals in a short amount of time.
Best comprehensive video I have found on this machine, going to do the mods in a little while.
Awesome video, man!!!
Best one I’ve seen so far!!
This machine is like wild horse and you tamed the hell out of it!! Hats off, kid. Can’t wait to see what cool things you’ll put together with it.
Outstanding video. Anyone just getting one of these beasts will do themselves a favor watching this video. Some very good tips not seen in other videos.
This is actually quite useful information, thank you
My Machine worked until I broke a needle, I started polishing and sanding. That tip about the shuttle is something I will do , Thank You, OOH Rah!
Greta video, look forward to the projects you do with it!
Your a Beast at this ....
Wow! Such detailed video! Thank you so much!
Great video!!! Sanding the pin down really helped.
Very nice job Esteban . Fine work . Thank you.
Your video was very insightful. What's frustrating is that I need to use it but just can't get it to work. Your video has made me hopeful. Thanks alot
Watch all of Mainely Acres videos. He has a lot of experience with this machines and he will answer your questions if you write to him. For parts for these machines he recommends Bantam Saddle and Tack store. They stock parts and improved parts for these machines. I noticed that at the three o’clock position your bobbin action bar shows thru past the bobbin well. That may be one of your problems with breakage of thread. At the three o’clock position the bar should stop right at the end before it goes past the bobbin well.
Thank you,good job!
Thank you very much...at the moment thread snapping continously...but learning the different procedures....👍👍👍👍👍
My assumption is that you have installed the needle correctly, and that the top thread is correctly threaded from the reel through the machine to the needle eye. In addition, the bobbin is correctly wound and inserted in the shuttle so that it rotates counterclockwise when the thread is pulled.
If this assumption is correct, there are two likely reasons for thread breakage.
1. The needle position at the point of maximum downward stroke.
2. The timing of the shuttle carrier (This carries the shuttle and bobbin).
Needle position
Before the next step NOTE the position of the handwheel (12 o’clock) and the shuttle carrier (the tongue or side piece will be at 3 o’clock) Take out the bobbin, shuttle, and shuttle carrier (the piece with the gear/pinion on the underside).
Turn the hand wheel clockwise until the needle is at its lowest position (handwheel at 3 o’clock). At this position, the top of the needle eye should be level with the bottom of the recess that shuttle carrier sits in. This can be difficult to see. A good light and even a magnifier may be helpful.
If the needle eye is higher than this, drop the needle shaft lower. This is done by first locating the connection link at the top of the needle shaft. You will see a screw that passes through the pivot. This screw locks the link to the needle shaft. Slacken this screw and move the needle shaft down so that the needle eye is in the correct position. Tighten the screw, but before doing so make sure that the needle shaft has not rotated. The needle eye needs to face along the bed or arm of the machine.
The maximum downward position of the needle is important as it is part of the movement that forms a loop in the thread that the shuttle hook picks up. If the needle eye is too high, a satisfactory loop is not formed, and may cause the thread to jam between the shuttle and shuttle wall which breaks the thread.
Re-assemble the shuttle carrier in the original position. It may be necessary to slight “rock” the handwheel until the gear/pinion on the shuttle carrier engages with the rack. then insert the shuttle with bobbin.
Timing or position of the Shuttle Carrier
My timing setup differs from the video. It followed the study of the machine movements and the reason for thread breakage. Since, I have found that other owners use the same approach. Also, after resolving the problem, I was able to decipher the Chinese instructions to understand that they use the same timing marks.
To check the timing, open the bobbin cover plate and look down on the shuttle and shuttle carrier. NOTE it is preferable that the needle is not threaded for this check. Rotate the handwheel to the 9 o’clock position. Be accurate with this position. Then visually note the position of the shuttle carrier. You are looking to see if the upright edge of the shuttle carrier is just covering the needle slot. This setting is critical to the functioning of the machine. There is a little latitude in this setting but not more than just beginning to cover the slot to almost fully covering the slot. A wrong position can lead to either the hook not picking up the bobbin thread, or the top thread being trapped below the shuttle and breaking.
The rotational position of the shuttle is adjusted by slackening the two nuts on the bar that moves the rack, which rotates the shuttle carrier. Once the nuts are loosened, the bar can be moved laterally. The bar only needs moving slightly (either way) to rotate the shuttle carrier to the correct position. Re-tighten the nuts, then rotate the handwheel a couple of times. Re-check the alignment of the shuttle carrier with the needle slot. Re-adjust if necessary. You may need to do this a few time to get it right!
When the alignment is correct, the hook on the shuttle will pass through the loop formed by the needle.
Now repeat the routine for picking up the bobbin thread. If the needle stroke position is now correct and the shuttle carrier aligns with the needle slot, the machine should collect the bobbin thread, and importantly, sew without breaking the thread … assuming the threading and tensions are correct.
Very nice video.
Thanks I’m gonna try this
Best video good work
Thanks for the good video. I’ve got one the same I have been using for a while. I noticed that the tension plate is missing from your bobbin tensioner. Possible you removed it or it’s just missing. It was a quick shot and hard to confirm. Let me know if you want me to send a pic of my one. Cheers
Thank you for this video. Ive been searching for helpful videos so i can figure out what my machine is doing wrong. would you be able to film you polishing the areas you suggested. Id iike to see your technique so i can be sure im doing it correctly.
Gracias mil
Alfonso… thank you for this video and thanks for the encouragement to keep working the problems. I’ve watched all of the Mainly Acres videos as well, but my machine will not pick up the thread… any other thoughts? I have made all of the modifications you have mentioned…
Hello. Perhaps you can help. I bought the Chinese shoe patch machine in October of 2022. I spent a month watching videos, etc. For some reason I could not get the machine to pick up the bobbin thread. So frustrated I put in the closet for a year. Pulled it out recently, and finally fixed the bobbin thread issue. Once the bobbin pickup worked, then I had an issue of the upper thread breaking. Watched some more videos, and did some intense sanding of all the bobbin parts. That stopped the breaking. Now, the thread is too loose. Before I just immediately tighten the bobbin spring, can you tell what would be causing the bottom thread to be too loose on my finished tests? In fact it was your video that encouraged me to sand everything down and that worked for the breaking.
Thanks i just bought one got ut mounted and mine was locking up lol i sanded inside wheel didnt realize how dirty it was
Good video. Can you please how to thread the machine?
Do you think that machine can sew through a Goodyear welt through shoe sole leather? Your thoughts
Do you think I can use .08 thread with this machine?
That is a really good video. I've had mine working for a while and it does a great job. A problem I had that you didn't mention is the needle wasn't set deep enough and kept breaking the thread.
Wes Dresen how did u fix that problem? Because my thread keeps breaking
@@munfrosty The rod that holds the needle can move up and down. It is held in place by a set screw just below the top of the rod. turn the handle until the needle is at it's lowest position. at that point you should be able to feel the needle below the arm that holds the bobbin. If you can't, loosen that set screw and advance the needle untin you can feel it and tighten the set screw..If you still break thread, advance the needle holder about 1/16" amd try it again. You shouldn't have any problem after that. Good luck.
Please, I need help. I have a brand new one like yours but the handle refuses to turn beyond about one third of a revolution. It came with a sample of stitched fabric, so it must have been working before it was sent. It stops with a clunk.
Another video (of the many I have viewed) had the owner setting the handle at 12 0' clock position and then the bobbin cup was placed into its well with its "wall" centered at the 3 0'clock position. It looked like your index mark was one tooth out (towards you,) when you dropped the cup into the well judging by the index marks you had made. This may have led you to trim that wall to make it work. Just sayin! Hope I'm wrong!
So far is working great, i will post soon a video of my projects also a video how to run your machine with a drill
Great video. Thank you. Did you also modify the foot so it doesn't leave marks?
I'm thinking he would have to..the teeth on those things are so coarse and sharp they can actually leave a little series of cuts in the top grain of good leather. I threw my chinese mistake in the garbage and bought a Cowboy Outlaw..been smiling (and stitching) ever since.
Yes, I made a new one, in my next video, I will show you how to build one more efficient.
I see you have some modifications on that machine do you have any videos looks like you have that copper tubing on the backside of it for the lifting arm and that real how does that work
Explain the drill
This one is a prototype, I'm working in a new video to show you how works my final
What size thread are you using
Could you do a video on how to set up the thread on the machine? I've got the same machine but something just isn't right as it's not sewing
In my next video, thank you for ask
Hello, I have recently received my machine and I have put the wooden base like yours. I put the wheel on but it only moves between 11:00 and 7:00 and I have not managed to put it at 12:00. It's locked and I don't want to force anything. What I can do. Thank you in advance for your time and help. 🇨🇦
Thank you for making this video. I am wondering if you would be able to help me with my machine breaking needles and the bobbin winder doesn't work. Please let me know if you are able to advise me or not. Thank you so much.
Check for suitable needles, and the right thread is a common issue
My bobbin thread isn’t catching I saw your position with it and I hve it at that but it’s still not working any help is appreciated
Can you adjust the stitching length?
My Cobbler blocked now. I guess the issue is in the bobbing case holder. I can not remove it - it stucks. Can you help?
Do a video on how you put the motor on, I have the same machine. P.S. your video was helpfull.
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Alfonso Hernandez price. Please tanks
My walking foot won't stay down and operate properly, what to do? Thanks
Mine stopped walking an pulling the material through it,how do I fix that
Tenho uma dessas tbm não consigo botar ela no ponto pra costurar preciso de ajuda ???
Thank you
How much reatail prica sir?
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What is the name of this sewing machine and what is its price? Thank you.
Great job! Very informative. Thanks
Why does the thread always break?
My cobbler machine doesn't turn. The wheel seems to be stuck. It only turns half way.I don't know what to do... Help me out💯🙏
Remove parts until you find the issue, start with the bobbin, the needle, check the bearing, and also to be sure behind the wheels the legs are in the right track
A onde eu compro está máquina
EBay
Tenho uma dessa mas nao costura nao laça a linha
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How come you didnt buy a real singer 29K or patent elastic or adler? They are real machines and made since the 1800s. And also they can be bought for the same price as that chinese version.
You get what you pay for, espeicially from the PRC
Hey bro hablas espanol?
Yes, Claro que si, espero hacerlos en español pero aun no visto estas máquinas ser populares en nuestra comunidad
Donde. Se. Consiguen. Esas. Máquinas ...