Chinese leather shoe patching machine. Junk or Jewel?
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- čas přidán 15. 04. 2022
- Have you thought about buying a Chinese leather sewing machine, but was afraid it might be a piece of junk? In this video I let you know the bottom line, jewel or junk. find out the real truth!
Notes: If you use a large spool of thread with this machine you will need to buy or make a thread stand. Large spools are meant to feed from the top and can't be used on the stock thread reel on top of the machine. Thread stands can be purchased on Amazon for around $10.00 amzn.to/38kk11w
Below is a link to the exact machine I bought. It has the best reviews of any sold on Amazon:
I do receive a small commission on items purchased through this link:
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CLSP Facebook Group: / 1646031288779869
I got my after market presser foot from Ebay seller www.ebay.com/usr/zozozo.2012 - Jak na to + styl
Wow! Finally a video about this machine that was properly filmed, in focus and no nonsense. Absolute perfection!
Thanks for the comment, glad you enjoyed the video!
I came to say the same thing. My complete sentiments.
Love your stitches too.
@@jakeylakey619exactly
@@ChucksMagic good video i was about to trash my new one .now it will work
The first minute of this video might be the most accurate thing I've heard in any YT video. If someone asked where I am with sewing leather goods, I would say what you said word-for-word.
Hey thanks for taking the time to leave a comment and I'm glad your liked the intro!
Damn man, THIS is how you do an instructional video! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed the video!
I got lucky and received one that worked great straight out of the box. Minimal manufacturing errors, even a nice green enamel on the frame.
Did an entire a cut-and-sew floor carpet on my 75 Land Cruiser with it. Also, stitched some cushions for a chair I build.
Very well-done. I have one of these machines, and I just reviewed your video again as a refresher.
Got mine yesterday! Thank you so much for this information. Liked and subscribed!
Glad I could help! Thanks!
Thanks so much for this information. I'm a "beginner tinkerer" and appreciate the suggestions. I had to return mine, but I'm trying again this coming week.
Absolute hands down best video on the subject there is, thank you for taking the time and effort to do this, it is a big help to us newbs!
Lucky you are ! The frame is fully painted with a cool green . Very informative vidéo . Thanks for sharing !
Thank you. The best and simple explanation of this machine. Again thank you
As I watched - could not help but think this o'boy was either a machinist or mechanic based on precise details and how he properly describes the machine parts.
You surely did a really NICE job with the video editing, and with the info for the machine also. A couple of things I'd mention. If you drill a small 3/32" hole in the side of the bobbin it makes threading easier. Many folks have done that.
The question about "what machine did you get", might have been referring to the number of bearings. The original (like I have) is a 4 bearing machine, then the 8 bearing came out. Now there is a 10 bearing machine. I'm not really sure the extra bearings do all that much, but they're cheap so why not?
Again, GREAT job on the video.
@Ken H Thanks, I enjoyed putting the video together. Not sure if the added bearings are a plus or not. If I find I need another one I might have to try a 10 bearing, although mine runs pretty smooth. I haven't found a hole in the bobbin to be necessary, I just hold the thread on the edge of the bobbin with my thumb and take a few turns on the spool to lock it down before putting the bobbin on the winder. I know my regular sewing machine bobbins have holes, but I really haven't missed them. With my eyesight, trying to hit a hole in the bobbin with the end of the thread might be tough these days. I can hold and wrap with my eyes closed. One thing I see a lot of and failed to mention in the video is folks putting a large spool of thread directly on the machine which causes a lot of problems. If your using large spools it should be fed using a thread holder and can be had on amazon for around 10 bucks. Anyway, thanks for the comment!
Great video on the shoe patcher machine. I viewed many videos on the shoe patcher but yours by far is the best!!!
Hey thanks, I appreciate the compliment!
Excellent video. I love my shoe patcher, and have learned a great deal about fine tuning this very versatile machine. Thank you.
Glad you liked the video! Thanks for taking the time to stop by and comment!
This is a life saver. Thank you!
Thank you so much. I just saw this on TEMU for $89. You have given me the incentive to purchase.. thank you
Awesome review and tutorial...love the base you made, that's the best I've seen!
@James Fargo Glad you enjoyed the video and yeah, I really like the stand I made also!
Such a great video on so many levels. Thank you for your mind and heart. I learned a lot. And mine is staring me in the face waiting to be set up. Today is the day. Thanks !!
@Brian Kessler Presents Glad you enjoyed the video! Good luck with your set-up. Take your time and enjoy the process!
Just found this, EXCELLENT video and instruction. Thank you for making this. It's the clearest and most succinct video I've found on this machine, which I've been hesitant to buy.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you sir for you’re time and sharing this vid to the leather crafters
A lot of work went in to this filming and editing and you trialing the machine…
Just wanted to let you know I appreciate you
Have a great weekend.
Your thorough video is a hidden jewel; to the point with tips how to setup and troubleshoot.
Easy subscribe, many thanks.
Hey thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to comment and for subscribing
Extremely clear and concise explanation. Thank you. 👏❤️👌👍
I have watched numerous videos on setting up this machine, but this is the best by far!
Wow, thanks!
Fantastic video!! Thank you so much for this very detailed video
I have mine permanently set up on a bench in my shop. I use it for all kinds of odd little attaching/sewing jobs. It's a great tool. Yes, a little finicky sometimes, but usually it works fine. I did wind up modifying the thread feed so the thread feeds off a large spool freely.
its junk tons of machines just like this way better quality for a little bit more money! you can keep a consew machine like this for lifetimes! this machine is crap
Great video. I just recently got one of those contraptions, and liked it so much I immediately hit the buy again button on eBay. Set the second machine up to use the commercial #20 135x17 and 135x16 needles from my Sailrite. Ordered some #22, and#23 needles to try with some 207 thread and got it working with the #22. The #23 needles won't fit down through the channel, but I think with a little massage for my Dremel I can get it to work. I did deburr the holes in the shuttle and ran the 207 thread over the top of the shuttle tension spring. Used both upper tension assemblies
Great, glad you like yours so much! I get to like mine more and more each day. It really is a fantastic little machine if you put some effort into it.
Everything about his video is golden! The intro overview of what we're all thinking is the best! I knew I'd come to the right place after about one minute! Then the recommendation of the group on Facebook at the end was GREAT and everything in between. Excellent man. Thanks.
@Vitality Massage Thanks for the compliment! Glad you liked the video!
I want to thank you for you explanation of this machine. I am a DIYer and michanicly inclined and I think I could use this machine to help me with my leather projects because I hand stich all of my projects as a new leather crafter. I have seen several videos of this machine to help me decide to get it or not.
@Earl Elzy I'm glad you liked the video. I started out hand stitching all my leather projects and if you've ever hand stitched a belt you will love this machine once you get it set up right.
Jewel ---, have had one for about 5 years , have used it many times and really like it. Made lots of stuff with it. To make getting the hang of it easier, watch some of the YT videos. You don’t need to do any of the fancy filing and cleaning some recommended. You can even use the three little leg stand that comes with it . I used mine with the flimsy stand for about a year , it does work. By the way , this is probably the best video on this machine yet, good job!
Awesome! I make take back the Heavy Duty Singer I just bought and get one of these.
Very well explained 🤝🏽 thanks alot
Great video fella, very helpful, cheers
Glad it helped
Multimedia review: Essentially 3 types of machinery or how-to video makers:
1. Some guy trying to hold their phone with one hand and work with the other. 2. Some guy cursing at their auto-focus until they get a half-baked but usable shot of the procedure. 3. The smart guy who simply edits in STILL PICTURES of critical details to make the video excellent and a great reference guide. Well done. The machine looks like a tinkerer's next project and potentially a useful implement to get work done for you.
That is a cool machine, cheap and works fine .
I'm living in Brazil and will started to work with leather, maby is this machine a option because every other machine is real expensive.
Tanks YOU to show the way or many other people 👍👍👍👍👍
@jan vanassen Yes, like I say in the video, if you're mechanically inclined and willing to put in the effort to fine tune this machine, it can surely be a less expensive option for a leather sewing machine. There is a link in the description for the exact machine I purchased. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment! Good luck!
Excellent informative video Chuck. One of the best I’ve seen out there, n I’ve seen lots. Lol
Hope to get mine up n running soon. Thanks for your expertise.👊 p.s. I’ve also subscribed.
@Larry Withrow Thanks for the kind words and for the sub. I really appreciate it!
Best how to video I’ve ever seen thank you sir you earned a subscribe
Thanks for the sub!
Thanks for this Chuck!!
Glad you found it useful !
I filed my bobbin case bottom edge rounded. Bobbin case (my definition) is the thing that holds the thread spool. The rounded edge lets the thread slip under the bobbin between the rotator thingy (the thing that holds the bobbin case with small gear) and bobbin. Most machines the thread slips over the bobbin.
Great video! Wish I’d have seen your video when I first got my machine! I’ve since added a gear motor and foot switch. Sewed lots of things with this machine besides leather, including making upholstery such as seats for tractors and 4-wheelers. I even patched a pair of my shoes, lol!
Great idea
@@debslovingstitches
Thank you! Still much to learn! 😂
After watching this video, I am gamne to try one of these machines, great instructions mate well done. Where do you recommend to get one.
Very well done video.Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
When I lived in China, there was a guy with one of these on the street corner. He saved me lots of time and money on shoe repairs. He'd fix my shoes right on the spot in a few minutes and for 20-30 rmb.
Thanks, for this video, well made.
Awesome vid!
Great Video! Thanks!
Best vid online! I’m having trouble breaking thread when trying to back stitch… any advice? Thanks so much
@Holistic Veterans Usually if you're breaking thread it's from too much tension either on your bobbin or top thread. Strange if it's just while back stitching. I suggest you pose your question on the Chinese Leather Shoe Patcher group, there's a link in the description. There's folks on there that have a lot of experience with this machine. Thanks for the comment and good luck with your problem!
Great ,informative video. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed!
Beautiful photography. You should make videos about different products just due to your skill with the camera
@Power Surge I enjoy product photography and have plans to do more of this type content in the future. Thanks for the complement, I appreciate it!
That intro is exactly my jurney of discovery. word. for. word!
Yeah, I was just relaying my experience with the process. Hope I helped you out!
Excellent video angles, thx
Glad you enjoyed!
...Great demo, thank you so much...
@k9road You're welcome, glad I could help!
@@ChucksMagic... your video convinced me to order one from amazon 😊...always wanted something to do canvas and leather ...thanx again...
Please share which model/manufacturer this is. Very helpful, thanks!
Sir I’m planning to do DIY sandal. Is this can do on webbing stitching? Thanks for great reviews
good tip, idk if it affects leather. But take a lighter to end threads!
It does work , just have to be careful not to scorch the leather.
Thank you Chuck .😊😊
@JON Gergeceff No problem, you're certainly welcome and thanks for taking the time to comment!
Only Just found this video, its the best.
Glad it was helpful!
Still problematic: using the foot shifts the needle ever so slightly, but it seems to correct itself on the way down so it passes the hole. Its like a very gentle half eliptical curve On testing really thick layers however, the needle doesnt seem to correct and it hits the plate and breaks, perhaps because the material itself prevents the needle curving back.. As a "fix" i just ended up stitching without the foot semi freestyle after marking the leather, which is faster than by hand and accurate. However is this strange needle shift when the foot slides back normal? And if not, any tips to correct it? Something in the mechanism clearly is causing it to happen
Hello, great video. I have a problem where when the presser foot is engaged, the needle seems to be shifting missing the hole to the bobbin and breaks. Machine works fine when presser foot is elevated, problem only occurs when the presser foot lever is engaged. Any idea how to go about trouble shooting this?
Edit: The first needle stab is fine, but when the foot moves once, the problem occurs.
Edit 2:
Just fixed it. The issue was i incorrectly assumed i could leave the base plate screw a little loose as you just flipped it off with the screw still in to access the bobbin, and it was causing the plate to shift with the foot movement. I could only see this once i removed the leather i was stitching to see the needle path (should have done that before breaking 3 needles). Tightening the base plate so it doesnt move along with the foot fixed the issue. Interestingly it wasnt being triggered when the foot wasnt down and just the material was sliding along it.
I also realized the base plate could be lifted with the screw engaged tight - so easy bobbin access remains with no need to fully unscrew it as per what i saw in this video (i didnt understand it what i was seeing fully).
This is my first sewing machine, and i currently find it way more complex than simply sewing leather by hand. Even back stitching accurately is tricky at the moment - clearly i need more practice
That's some good info thanks.
@Robert C Hall Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for taking the time to comment!
I'm going the buy one of these machines, I'm not made of money and retried. I make holsters on the side using 7-8 oz. the leather. I would like to know want is the thickest tread I can use is and what size nail do I need to buy? Anything you can give me would be helpful! I'm tired of saddle stitching and it's a killer on the finger.
Thanks for sharing, some of your video commentary was hilarious. 😂
You're welcome
Can I ask which machine you got, going to picking one soon. Great info and video!!!
I got this one off of Amazon, it's advertised as the
FamYun Hand Cobbler Shoe Repair Machine. It had as good of reviews if not better than any of the other machines I saw on Amazon. Thanks for watching and good luck with your purchase!
It's initially an unfinished peice of well-built junk.
But if you spend alot of time with sand paper, a dremel and buffing wheel, scotch Brite, wire brush, and just go thru and get all the scuffs and sharp edges out so it doesn't cut your line and repeatedly get snagged, and learn how to equalize your bobbin and top thread tension for a even looking stich on top and bottom, then your good!
Alot of effort, then it's a JEWEL!
Thanks a lot ❤
Great video
Thanks!
Great Video!!
Thanks!
Brilliant machine for the money
Dear, how are you? I have followed you. I have this machine. I have installed it, but when I turn it on, it does not turn on me, and when I remove the bobbin, it works. What is this problem? Can you help me?
which direction are you turning the crank to start
Worked on mine it sews great. However I make knife sheaths and t69 or 70 is kinda light for heavy leather. How do you modify for heavier thread?
You have to use a different size needle and adjust the tension. Don't remember what size for the larger thread off the top of my head, but Google should know. Tension is a trial and error thing, again, Google and the CLSP Facebook group are your friends!
I recently bought the same machine and put a motor on it.
THANK YOU !!! WELL INFORMED> WELL MADE VIDEO>
Great video, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for taking the time to comment!
Fantastic video, thanks for making it. BTW, what type and size needle were you using ? Do you recommend a chisel point for leather ?
@itaintmebabe99 I'm glad you liked the video. I'm using a size 20 needle and #69 thread. There standard needles not chisel pointed. I get them online from Bantam Saddle Tack. I bought some other sizes from them, but this combination works so well I haven't tried them. Check out the facebook group I mention in the video. Lots of conversation on needles and thread on there. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment!
I like making knives and possibly gun holsters and other miscellaneous leather things. The leather I would like to use is thicker than what you demonstrated on. Is the machine capable to sew a latigo weight type leather? And what type of thread would you recommend? Where would you recommend getting the thread and will the machine properly tension a nylon strength type thread or these all cotton threads? Thanks for the video, it was very good. 😊
great video! if i want to buy extra bobbins for this machine, what size bobbins should I buy?
Hey, Glad you liked it! I think there is only one size bobbin that will fit. I get mine from www.bantamsaddletack.com/
There $4.75 for a pack of 5. Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Can you sew canvas with it?
Rather than using a dremel on the presser foot, could you have just used a longer needle for the thicker leather?
I don't think so. The machine is designed for HAx1 / 15x1 needles. If you were to use a longer needle it would change the timing.
Thanks man
No problem
thanx a lot.
Most welcome!
Awesome thanks 😊
@G Glad you liked!
I seen people sewing a tire with that thing
Where can I order parts for my ironwall machine
Unfortunately there are not many sources for parts. www.bantamsaddletack.com/ has a few items. You could try posting on the chinese shoe patcher group on facebook. Someone might have a machine they are parting out (link in description). Or some buy a second machine just for parts. Hope you find what you need!
Thanks for the video. I need HELP! My walking foot doesn't walk.
The upside down U shaped piece barely moves left and right. So I followed that part to the other end, to the base. That arm has very little space from the end to the base. Also, one of those rotating levers at the base doesn't even press against that arm which is part of the U shaped piece. It's like the machine is damaged or I put it together wrong. Are both of these levers supposed to touch a metal arm?
@Enyawd Nitram Without seeing a video of what your machine is doing, it's hard to diagnose the problem. Your best bet is to go to Harrison Higtowers site. He has lot of videos showing every aspect of this machine. Here's a link: czcams.com/video/tWgxzSCZxrQ/video.html
Also, if you can somehow get a video of what your machine is doing and can post it to the CLSP Facebook group. Members there might be able to help you out. There's a link to the group in the description area of my video. Good luck!
@@ChucksMagic I figured it out. I thought the base of that thread-length screw should always touch the metal frame. Having the end pressed against the metal frame meant it will be a very tight stitch which would make it appear as if the walking-foot isn't working. Once I adjusted the crew it works just fine. I love this machine because I can draw designs on the leather and easily stitch it. Thanks for the video and your reply.
Glad you figured it out, have fun!
@@ChucksMagic It worked. I lowered the needle to point I can feel the tip through that hole under the bobbin shuttle/casing. It picked up the bobbin thread. Thanks so much.
@@enyawdnitram185 Good job, you'll be an expert once you've got everything dialed in!
Hi, what thread do you recommend? Thank you!
I like #69, anything heavier can be used, but is a little harder to work with.
Are they all the same machine that I see on Amazon? They’re all similar but a little different in price.
Most are the same, some have more bearing in them. The coloured pea model has the additional bearings and is a little more expensive.
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Does anyone know how to get the crank part on?
@Tara Lyman Check out this video by Harrington Hightower. czcams.com/video/2tlT2prY8qg/video.html At about minute 19:45 he shows how to assemble the crank. Hope this helps!
Excellent
Thank you sir!
I thank you. I’ve been so excited learning about sewing machines and designs , mechanics etc . I really appreciate your videos. ❤
Do you find it difficult trying to control the work wtih one hand?
It's a little cumbersome, but I manage. Some have added motors to the machine so they can be advanced by a foot switch leaving you with both hands free. Hope this helps!
Do you know What the largest thread you can use on this machine?
Hey Joe, sorry that's not something I done much experimenting with, so I'm not the one to ask. I would suggest you ask your question on the facebook group for this machine:
facebook.com/groups/1646031288779869/
These guy can tell you exactly what you want to know!
@@ChucksMagic thanks I just did
Can this be used to sew leather patch on hat?
Absolutely, patches on hats or jackets!
Sou do Brasil como posso comprar esta maquina
El único lugar que conozco donde puedes comprar esta máquina es Amazon. ¡Espero que esto ayude!
We need you.
Thanks for the content.
Keep up the good work.
בס'ד
Me gustaria comprar una de esas donde las puedo conseguir y cuanto valen
@Domingo Cascante Puedes comprarlos en Amazon.com, cuestan alrededor de 130 dólares estadounidenses.
@@ChucksMagic muchísimas gracias chuck's magic le agradesco por su ayuda y colaboración gracias nuevamente un apreton de manos a la distancia Domingo Cascante costa rica
No entiendo porque no se inglés
Que pena no entiendo
this is a junk jewel and no bragging rights for the price, once tuned it gets the job done for a biginner. or spend 3000 on a leather sweing macine with bragging rights and start making payments.
I would buy you base if you sell
@Perspective with Candance I'm glad you like the machine base I built and if I ever decide to sell it, you have first dibs.
dont drop it off your hood of car .. or u might brake the bearings like i did ..but it still spwes
Classic comment street corner . Ha ha . Good video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
😜🙏👍🙏
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