How Russian Grenade Launcher Doubles as Mini Artillery

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  • čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
  • The AGS-17 auto grenade launcher combined with drones are now mini artillery by the Russian Armed Forces and Ukrainian military. It's also known as Playma; Russian for flame, is a 30mm automatic grenade launcher which is often seen in the thick of the fighting in Ukraine.
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    Despite being over 50 years old, this weapon remains a force to be reckoned with and is still used extensively by militaries around the world. In this video, we will explore the history, development, and specifications of the AGS-17 before turning our attention to the innovative tactics employed by Ukrainian and Russian forces using this weapon.
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  • @Taskandpurpose
    @Taskandpurpose  Před rokem +2

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  • @davidconsumerofmath
    @davidconsumerofmath Před rokem +225

    Using an auto grenade launcher as "a mortar" with a small cheap consumer drone as your own personal "artillery spotter" is a wild combo! What a game changer for the squad level

    • @QuangTran-nl7sw
      @QuangTran-nl7sw Před rokem +6

      It's quite dubious ideal cuz the ammunition cannot travel that far
      I would prefer 60mm personal mortal instead

    • @valdemariv394
      @valdemariv394 Před rokem +7

      @@QuangTran-nl7sw it's better to have both.

    • @correctionguy7632
      @correctionguy7632 Před rokem +2

      @@valdemariv394 Not from a manufacturing/logistics view.
      Well assuming they can sort of fill the same role.

    • @valdemariv394
      @valdemariv394 Před rokem +1

      @@correctionguy7632 Probably. Can't say anything about manufacturing and logistics since I don't know shit about it.
      Yeah, they fill sort of same role, but one is faster in deployment and another have more rapid fire and can cover bigger areas. 60mm mortar also have a sweet proximity fuse on american shells. That shit is dope.

    • @BackforReeeal
      @BackforReeeal Před rokem

      The troops are about to get mildly devious on the battlefield

  • @martinmacak284
    @martinmacak284 Před rokem +383

    You forgot to mention very important thing. That russian one has indirect fire optics. So it was designed for indirect fire from beginning

    • @exo068
      @exo068 Před rokem +44

      Yes it’s also part of their training on it.

    • @user-fn4kl5lb6t
      @user-fn4kl5lb6t Před rokem +67

      He don't forgot to mention, he made it intentionally, like some other things. =)

    • @improvisedsurvival5967
      @improvisedsurvival5967 Před rokem +6

      Indirect is demoralizing af

    • @zadovrus1624
      @zadovrus1624 Před rokem +54

      He also forgot to mention that indirect fire is not new. Soviets used it in Afghanistan with forward observers instead of drones

    • @chrissmith7669
      @chrissmith7669 Před rokem +1

      Our M203 was also good at lobbing rounds for indirect fire. The sight on the side would let you “Kentucky windage.” The Range Close enough

  • @cyberherbalist
    @cyberherbalist Před rokem +466

    As a former M203 grenade launcher shooter, I can tell you that even that piece of work can serve as mini-artillery. A better description might be mini-mortar, however. The M203 has a bore of 40mm, whereas the Russian AGS-17 is 30mm.

    • @Franky566
      @Franky566 Před rokem +49

      @@Coglio it depends. you can use different munitions with the same platform. the main difference is doctrine of fire/specialization the unit. if a unit is kitt-ed out for anti-armor it will use the shaped charge. if the unit is for anti-infantry it will use HE. it depends on nationality, time frame, theater, availability, and many other factors.

    • @Len_M.
      @Len_M. Před rokem +3

      It's too bad the M18A1 wasn't or couldn't be rigged to be wireless. I guess with some ingenuity it might be able to somehow be jerry-rigged to be, but an M18A1 Claymore would be handy to be dropped near a column of Russian Troops and clacked off remotely.

    • @chrissmith7669
      @chrissmith7669 Před rokem +15

      @@Coglio m203 also had at one point, a shotgun shell like round, flares, smoke , and even a thermobaric round. As designated M203 gunner most of what I shot was the pinkish red chalk rounds

    • @martinchinn5387
      @martinchinn5387 Před rokem +8

      ​@@Coglio In 07 I qualified with chalk trainers and standard HE rounds and was issued HEDP, parachute flares, star clusters, and colored smoke markers on deployment. I think the logic behind issuing HEDP was that it is a more versatile round to be used against various kinds of cover. Great weapon in my opinion, but the better comparison to the AGS would be our Mk 19, which fires a high velocity round. The max range on that round is about 5x that of 203 rounds.

    • @paulbeesley8283
      @paulbeesley8283 Před rokem +5

      A larger (i.e 40mm,) grenade makes sense when you have fewer, or smaller targets. However, the model 17 was intended to repel "human wave," attacks, so a larger number of smaller grenades would be better.

  • @Mosern1977
    @Mosern1977 Před rokem +282

    Drone + automatic grenade launcher looks like a very cheap an interesting combo.

    • @walouinsanityshed
      @walouinsanityshed Před rokem +18

      Too much recoil for a drone, yet. Some gunsips have them so maybe one day

    • @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
      @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing Před rokem +36

      @@walouinsanityshed For real, a Mk19 shakes a whole Hummer guntruck in ways that makes Ma Deuce seem like a gentle tickle pickle.

    • @KennyNGA
      @KennyNGA Před rokem +9

      the drone would have to be pretty big for that which negates the pros for using drones like low visibility on radar

    • @johnridout6540
      @johnridout6540 Před rokem +3

      They have been dropping these grenades from drones.

    • @13thmistral
      @13thmistral Před rokem +5

      Not this kind of grenades.
      I'd see the potential in some drone firing low pressure grenades, the likes one can find in rifle grenade launchers though, but even then, having actual systems on board that can aim and fire makes overall said systems both heavier and more expensive.

  • @jumpergamer1913
    @jumpergamer1913 Před rokem +1406

    killing the inventor of weapon that would have liquidated the germans in ww2 because of stalin being a power hungry maniac is quite a dark twist of fate

    • @bbbb98765
      @bbbb98765 Před rokem +142

      Stalin was the OG dictator. As mad as a box of frogs

    • @c1ph3rpunk
      @c1ph3rpunk Před rokem +153

      It’s the most Stalin thing you can do. Definitely on style.

    • @hansolowe19
      @hansolowe19 Před rokem +67

      @@bbbb98765 stalin wasn't the og dictator, but he was a big one.

    • @Sub-If-You-Are-Against-Zionism
      @Sub-If-You-Are-Against-Zionism Před rokem +84

      Because everything in Russia is grim and historically everything there always seems to end even more grim

    • @bbbb98765
      @bbbb98765 Před rokem +29

      @@hansolowe19 He wasn't the first but, I think he's the template. I'm excluding mediaeval times and earlier because the conditions were so very different

  • @franklinclinton3211
    @franklinclinton3211 Před rokem +67

    This is one of the weapons that makes me question how the military in zombie movies gets destroyed so easily.

    • @tsugumorihoney2288
      @tsugumorihoney2288 Před rokem

      cuz it is american movies, and they thinks that all as stupid as americans

    • @kimjanek646
      @kimjanek646 Před rokem +3

      Zombies don’t die from some 30mm fragmentation grenades exploding near them 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @franklinclinton3211
      @franklinclinton3211 Před rokem +11

      @@kimjanek646 yeah but they could at least cripple a mass amount of them plus imagine how many zombies a 50 cal round would go through, also take into a account we have many of browning 50 cals and also miniguns that shoot 50 cal.

    • @imgvillasrc1608
      @imgvillasrc1608 Před rokem +15

      @@kimjanek646 A zombie that has their legs removed is already combat ineffective. Max Brooks may have did his research but his idea on how military hardware works in effect is atrocious.
      If Yonkers was in any way accurate, Japanese Banzai charges in WW2 should have been 100% effective against US Marines.

    • @s.2196
      @s.2196 Před rokem +4

      ​@@imgvillasrc1608 a living pile of mushy-flesh-soup is no more dangerous than a pile of dead mushy-flesh-soup

  • @FrankBUILTperformance
    @FrankBUILTperformance Před rokem +232

    How could you NOT like an automatic grenade launcher?

  • @williamlloyd3769
    @williamlloyd3769 Před rokem +234

    The US Army M101A1 howitzer(105mm) artillery piece developed in World War II is also in use in Ukraine. It has similarly been update for use in the current war with the addition of GPS and drone as a spotter.
    PS - It’s interesting to see how modern tech has made older gear good enough.

    • @Gameprojordan
      @Gameprojordan Před rokem +28

      It's like how old guns get a bunch of rails slapped onto them to use modern optics and attachments with

    • @hazzardalsohazzard2624
      @hazzardalsohazzard2624 Před rokem +25

      This war has convinced me that I'd rather have a Sherman with modern optics over an M1 Abrams without them.

    • @granatmof
      @granatmof Před rokem +9

      Mosin Nagat with picatinny rails will be the next thing out of Russian gun factories.

    • @AirLancer
      @AirLancer Před rokem +17

      @@hazzardalsohazzard2624 Idk, modern optics means you're gonna get the first shot off, but neither the 75 or 76mm gun on the Sherman would penetrate modern armor. There's definitely a point of diminishing returns where lack of capability in other areas means you can't leverage the advantages that you do have.

    • @EatMyShortsAU
      @EatMyShortsAU Před rokem +10

      I guess any weapon is better than no weapon. When you are fighting a massive war involving hundreds of thousands of soldiers on each side, you can't really be picky.

  • @mrvk39
    @mrvk39 Před rokem +37

    By the way, a poll of WWII historians considered Kulik. who cancelled the project, to be the WORST general of WWII. He was in charge of Soviet artillery manufacturing and apparently hated all good ideas, like building fast-firing, high velocity guns for tanks. So he sabotaged their development as much as he could. Soviets had great tank designs but lacked good guns for them and it plagued Soviet military till the late stages of the war.

    • @hennerzz3460
      @hennerzz3460 Před rokem +3

      thats really fascinating ; youve made me want to research him now! thanks for sharing!

    • @dauzlee2827
      @dauzlee2827 Před rokem +1

      He was later executed for that reason

    • @imgvillasrc1608
      @imgvillasrc1608 Před rokem

      Kulik is the worst general in HISTORY. I never read any other general that was so twisted and incompetent like Kulik in my life as a history buff.
      His sheer incompetence, adding arrogance, makes Douglas MacArthur look like Julius Caesar in comparison.

    • @joshuahilliker2364
      @joshuahilliker2364 Před rokem +6

      Yeah, that sounds about right for Russia, even today.
      “Oh, this guy has an idea that is different and differs from our great leader’s communist views? That shit’s illegal!”

    • @mrvk39
      @mrvk39 Před rokem +4

      @@joshuahilliker2364 this is, actually, isn't true. Soviet weapons design was very innovative and new ideas were always tried. The issue was largely political favorism. Kulik was a personal friend of Stalin and happened to be an idiot. Also, other talented engineers had to fight through the bureaucracy but Soviets had a surprisingly open mind about technological innovations.

  • @IrishCaesar
    @IrishCaesar Před rokem +520

    I've seen lots of footage of how incredibly effective drone corrected AGS is. The MK19 can be used in a similar way

    • @ah64dbeast37
      @ah64dbeast37 Před rokem +19

      Yeah all it needs a mount that is more like a mortor bi pod with adjustability for more accuracy. This mk19 would rip through all most all ifvs and some tanks if it hots there roof straight on and one hell of an area denial weapon of enemy infantry.

    • @nexas2316
      @nexas2316 Před rokem +36

      now imagine a drone linked AGS on a robotic mount that receives coordinates from the drone and automatically adjusts it's targeting to target the coordinates provided. Put that shit on a HMVV with a mile long ammo belt and just drive around dukes of hazard style blasting vatniks

    • @michaelvick2872
      @michaelvick2872 Před rokem +10

      @@nexas2316 that doesn’t really make sense compared to just using the same drone fed coordinate system with a mobile mortar system like the Bradley with a 120m in the back. Bradley also has a secondary 80 or 60mm that could be forward deployed.

    • @maxxus0923
      @maxxus0923 Před rokem

      @@nexas2316 now now i can only orgasm so much to this idea

    • @somethingmoredecent
      @somethingmoredecent Před rokem +2

      ​@@michaelvick2872 Agreed

  • @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
    @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing Před rokem +304

    Commissar: Comrade Stalin...we have found genius who invent new thing that actually work!
    Stalin: So. He has chosen death.

    • @Ligerbee
      @Ligerbee Před rokem +15

      makes no sense to me. Why would he kill people who invent useful weapons?

    • @jayzandstra1830
      @jayzandstra1830 Před rokem +57

      @@Ligerbee they might invent shit that just might kill his paranoid ass

    • @chomper720
      @chomper720 Před rokem +5

      Yeah that about sums it yup.

    • @Ligerbee
      @Ligerbee Před rokem +3

      @@jayzandstra1830 oh, I dont want my paranoid donkey to be killed :(.

    • @justiron2999
      @justiron2999 Před rokem

      Too smart to be an idiot, too useful to be a useful idiot. Such a sad tale.

  • @AnthonyEvelyn
    @AnthonyEvelyn Před rokem +99

    A pretty vicious weapon when under AI control in ARMA series.

    • @Albinospenguin
      @Albinospenguin Před rokem +10

      The "blop blop" of the mk17 is probably one of the most recognizable sounds from arma for me, got snipped by a burst of 40mm so much times

    • @granatmof
      @granatmof Před rokem +3

      Honestly, Ill never see combat, but certain systems in Arma 3 can be broken.

    • @DarkShroom
      @DarkShroom Před rokem

      u must be a vet of videogames.... also from what i hear they are pretty terrifying in real life to

    • @tinycockjock1967
      @tinycockjock1967 Před rokem +2

      While playing Antistasi and similar mods I like to jank-load them on trucks, drop them, shoot a hell salvo, and then fuck off before they send reinforcements. Was really surprised to see Ukrainians doing the same thing.

    • @Bryce_da_pilot
      @Bryce_da_pilot Před rokem +1

      The GMG trucks AI operate have no problem wiping you off the map with ease after merely popping your head up above a rock to see what’s going on from 900m away lol

  • @martingrayson
    @martingrayson Před rokem +15

    One of the advantages of having this system in the unit is that in can be employed in the platoon level without having to request permisson from upper echelon.

    • @Comm0ut
      @Comm0ut Před rokem

      ^Best comment in the thread! Organic firepower cannot be cut off by incompetent spectators in rear areas.

  • @sgtmayhem
    @sgtmayhem Před rokem +38

    We had one brought back from Desert Storm sitting in a display case until 2000 when after it was examined closer was found to be still fully intact and operational :)

    • @bkane573
      @bkane573 Před rokem +2

      I hope whoever snitched….
      Got what they earned.

    • @peterrobbins2862
      @peterrobbins2862 Před rokem +2

      So long as it wasn't loaded what's the problem

    • @ericwilliams7705
      @ericwilliams7705 Před rokem +1

      US Miliary regulations for items in museums on display actually mandate that the equipment including weapons be fully functional

  • @vtheman1850
    @vtheman1850 Před rokem +48

    Great vid as always, would just like to chime in
    I was trained as a gunner on our variant of the AGS. It is a specialized MOS in our military. (Been a while so don't @me if I get US military terminology wrong lol)
    We operated it in two-man teams, one person carried the launcher, while the other, called the Servicer/Server carried the legs (Stall?) and the ammo, 2X Cases) on a platoon level.
    The SOP was to deploy it, while an element from the platoon provided security. The Gunner operates the system, while the server maintains, brings ammunition and assists in directing the accuracy of fire/ almost like an artillery spotter, issued with a ractification sight.
    (Mind you our variant was significantly heavier, but from what I've heard the stand was a lot sturdier and didn't suffer the wobble that was common with Russian made ones).
    We've never really trained for "Human Wave" attacks. But instead, most of our training and firing was focused on support of maneuver elements within the platoon, suppression of positions or destruction of fortified position and light vehicles.
    Even during my time (I'm old we didn't have drones back then lol), the accuracy with which a trained operator can put one of these on you at 800+ meters is a humbling experience. A really understated weapon in Eastern European military doctrines.
    I'll just paraphrase the manual
    " Intended for destruction of covered and uncovered living force at distances up to 1700 m, and destruction of lightly armored combat means at distances up to 1000 m."

    • @bkane573
      @bkane573 Před rokem +4

      Very underrated post. Thank you for sharing.

    • @fredcollins8919
      @fredcollins8919 Před rokem +3

      am pretty sure that by now (2000s-2020s-present day) ALL US/NATO infantry forces using automatic grenade launchers etc would ALSO most definitely be doing just as the fellow Allied Ukrainians are doing via drone targetting to help with accuracy and would only intensify & improve IF the NATO forces were forced into the fight where ingenuity/creativity would quickly take over (as the Ukrainians have done & are showing the world). If THEY can do then there are practically NO limits as to what US/UK/NATO troops can accomplish (in any corner of the world).....

    • @josephcuevas8100
      @josephcuevas8100 Před rokem +1

      Very interesting manual.

    • @jackd1582
      @jackd1582 Před rokem

      @@fredcollins8919 Give yourself self a pat on the back Freddie

    • @vtheman1850
      @vtheman1850 Před rokem +1

      @@fredcollins8919 Oh yeah absolutely This system is in use with many ex-soviet or ex-Yugoslav countries that are now parts of NATO.

  • @quentinmyself
    @quentinmyself Před rokem +12

    I think this is a sneak peek into the future of artilery; miniaturized to the point of becoming portable by one sordier, gaining incredible versatility on the battlefield.

  • @Triangle26
    @Triangle26 Před rokem +59

    Great content as always! Minor point, "Molot" (the Russian word for "hammer") Machine Building plant is pretty well known with a long history. Among other things, they produce the RPK light machine guns which are heavily used throughout the world, including on both sides of the Ukraine conflict. They also produced a commercial version of the RPK called the Vepr (Boar), which was very popular in the United States in the 2010's.

    • @Big_Red1
      @Big_Red1 Před rokem +2

      I was lucky enough to snag one of those before the import ban. Best AK pattern rifle I've ever fired. Just wish I could go back and get one of the 7.62x54r variants instead of the 5.45x39 that I got. I saw they are going for like $3-5k on Gunbroker these days which is crazy to me.

    • @Triangle26
      @Triangle26 Před rokem +2

      @@Big_Red1 Me too. Through nothing but dumb luck, I ordered an FM-AK47-11 the week before the import ban was announced. By the time it showed up at my FFL it had doubled in value. I'm grateful I got it, but I also wish I would have bought 2 more in every caliber.

    • @vepraksoldat2963
      @vepraksoldat2963 Před rokem +1

      ​@Forrest Edgar i have all veprs that were imported except pioneers.

  • @Lacaille8760
    @Lacaille8760 Před rokem +13

    I had training to this weapon in Finland's army. I was left in impression its somewhat short range, due to low muzzle velocity, is a hindrance that exposes these crews to frontline fire. And ammo was quite sensitive. I'm happy we ain't using it anymore.

    • @wes11bravo
      @wes11bravo Před rokem +2

      Agree, brother. If someone wants to be crew for this or a Mk19 on tripods, have at it - it's gotta be a pig to move and once they know where you're set up, prepare to get got. Now, on a vic? That's a different story. A Mk19 on a humvee or MRAP sending HE can be a beautiful thing.

    • @tetraxis3011
      @tetraxis3011 Před rokem +2

      @@wes11bravo Yea. I’m pretty sure all Mexican Army MK19s are mounted on humvees or other fast vehicles.

  • @TakNuke
    @TakNuke Před rokem +8

    The AGS-30 with its tripod mount and a drum of grenade belt weights only 30kg (while ags17 weights 30 kg with tripod mount and unloaded, both use 14 kg 29 round belt of 30mm grenades in belt drum) that means in emergency it can be moved by one person or be divided between two for long marches. It can be also used with battlefield radar for targeting which is also man portable. The newer ags40 is more analogous to mk47 and mk19 and is not as movable as the ags30, while also having similar performance to mk47 and other similar systems.

  • @bernardedwards8461
    @bernardedwards8461 Před rokem +20

    1700 metres, thats pretty good! The grenade launcher I used was single shot with a range of only 350 metres, less than that if you fired into a head wind or fired uphill. The enemy usually opened fire at about 400 - 500 metres. It had very little recoil, so Inever understood why they didn't put more propellant into the cartridges.

    • @spartanonxy
      @spartanonxy Před rokem +7

      Because recoil isn't the issue. Pressure is. Most hand held grenade launchers use high low system that keeps it from going BOOM at the wrong time. Thing is the high low is not perfect and to much pressure in the high stage can still burst it and the low can't withstand nearly as much pressure. In the end hand held grenade launchers are pretty limited simply because of that reality.

    • @bernardedwards8461
      @bernardedwards8461 Před rokem

      @@spartanonxy Higher velocity gives you more recoil, simple as that, but the average soldier can only tolerate so much recoil so there is a limit as to how much can be allowed.

    • @spartanonxy
      @spartanonxy Před rokem

      @@bernardedwards8461 Yes but that is not why grenade launchers are limited. Work on more powerful ones was done decades ago but the pressure issue was unsolvable without making it to heavy. On mounted or stationary setups it is not a issue or at least as much of a issue. Mounted on a rifle or carried everywhere that is a different story.

    • @bernardedwards8461
      @bernardedwards8461 Před rokem

      @@spartanonxy The M79 had a very robust barrel which could easily have taken enough pressure to throw the grenade a further 200 metres. I used to make my own muzzle loaders and gun powder, so I have some familiarity with these matters. Another way in which range could have been mproved would have been to give the grenades a pointed nose instead of a blunt nose. I'm quite sure that by improving the ammo the M79 could have been given an extra 200 metres. The weapon had a rather heavy stock which could have been made lighter.

    • @spartanonxy
      @spartanonxy Před rokem

      @@bernardedwards8461 Really you wouldn't see much improvement from nose design changes actually. The grenades are to slow the sharper nose only really starts being a real improvement at relatively high subsonic speeds and grenades from grenade launchers are pretty slow projectiles. You would get some but you would trade out ease of transport and manufacturing for relatively small gains in range.
      The higher pressure is more viable but not sure the gains would be worth the tradeoffs and if you could even extract that much from it safely. I would say elongated projectiles with the inclusion of a system similar to gyrojets would likely be more effective. Even a quarter second burn time with a decent propellant would hugely increase range.

  • @jasonkeating9958
    @jasonkeating9958 Před rokem +15

    They have used the soviet 2B9 belt fed 82mm fully automatic mortar for years as a standard tactic so using this as a lightweight version makes sense,
    It would be interesting to know if this and the 2b9 are used together very often

  • @krisplanker9640
    @krisplanker9640 Před rokem +4

    haven't Ukrainian forces reported that using DJI drones is risky because Russia appears to have a backdoor into these PRC manufactured drones?

  • @fallinginthed33p
    @fallinginthed33p Před rokem +1

    Cappy levelled up with all the fancy graphics.

  • @PBMS123
    @PBMS123 Před rokem +3

    10:45 you also missed the indirect fire sight, that even without the drone, and just a forward observers with a radio.
    Indirect MACHINE GUN fire is still taught in the Australian Army, using GPMG (Mag58) 7.62NATO machine guns. These are called DFSW soldiers, they use the C2A2 sight used on mortars, with a GPMG mounted in an adjustable locking tripod mount (or mounted Infantry using a RWS) turning the guns into ERMG

  • @davesaunders568
    @davesaunders568 Před rokem +3

    Very informative Cappy, good stuff 👏 👍

  • @awnikRaihan
    @awnikRaihan Před rokem +16

    AGs -17 is only 16kg unloaded, means it becomes similar weight class to a squad light machine gun :) ... making it feel up a niche position as it can be used as single person weapon...However AS-40 again falls back to 30 kg range , making it a crew served weapon. Probably both of them will be used but in different unit level. Infantry Squad will have the AGS-17 and paltoon or mechanized infantry will have the ags-40.

    • @tsugumorihoney2288
      @tsugumorihoney2288 Před rokem

      16 k without carriage, with it it also weight about 30 kg

    • @dietech6494
      @dietech6494 Před rokem

      ​@@tsugumorihoney2288 one human can easily carry that match with passive exoskeloton(industrial costs 800$[that made in russia, i don't know about others]).

    • @tsugumorihoney2288
      @tsugumorihoney2288 Před rokem

      @@dietech6494 you saw how it looks? It is useless in battlefield

  • @mckutzy
    @mckutzy Před rokem +5

    I was hoping you were going to talk about the ammunition aswell...
    For the simplistic design, point detonating with on board self-destruct function in later variations, the safety of rotation fuse bock...
    Simple enough (after modification)that a number of folk using these for targeted drone drop attacks, are building adapters for all sorts of drones...
    Experiences with these are getting folks interested into tinkering with the western 40mm grenad fuse types and doing the same...
    If anything this weapon system and ammunition has been used in a fundamental turning point for the modern battlefield today...

  • @ShawnGmeow
    @ShawnGmeow Před rokem +4

    Just joined the squad, former 11B P, love your work.

  • @The415Joe
    @The415Joe Před rokem +9

    There was some good footage from 2014 in the battle for the Donetsk airport with Ukrainian SF ‘cyborgs’ using the AGS-17 in an indirect fire role. No drones tho, just a spotter with a radio

  • @saiprateek5779
    @saiprateek5779 Před rokem +26

    Hey Cappy, AGS 17 & 30 is a standard infantry grenade Launcher in Indian Army inventory.. thank you for making it..❤
    Love from India 🇮🇳

  • @thomaspinney4020
    @thomaspinney4020 Před rokem +2

    Nice posting, Cappy. I see you are also about to crack the symbolic 1 million level. Keep up the good work.

  • @nikaristov
    @nikaristov Před rokem +2

    @TaskAndPurpose I love the in-depth research and quality content on this channel. Just nit-picking, it should probably be "Plamya", not "Playma"?

  • @jabuki2
    @jabuki2 Před rokem +4

    wow, an eye in the sky makes these a terrifying weapon. You didn't mention ammo cost but I'm guessing using just a couple range finding rounds makes it pretty low compared to mortars for similar affect. I can see countries making drone manufacturing a key part of their ground defense budget. The tactical advantage of a drone that only weighs a few pounds is huge.

  • @13thmistral
    @13thmistral Před rokem +13

    This system with airburst ammo and a longer barrel with a better muzzle break, in combination with the needed electronics to be more accurate at aiming in coordination with a drone would be quite insane.

    • @theimmortal4718
      @theimmortal4718 Před rokem +6

      That's called the US MK47

    • @bruhmanthetruthprovider2201
      @bruhmanthetruthprovider2201 Před rokem

      Too expensive, not worth using, may aswell just use smaller mortars

    • @theimmortal4718
      @theimmortal4718 Před rokem +3

      @@bruhmanthetruthprovider2201
      We already have it. The MK 47

    • @13thmistral
      @13thmistral Před rokem +1

      @@bruhmanthetruthprovider2201 Not per se since mortars are not really light....unless talking about the 40mm grenade launchers mentioned in this vid.

    • @pickleman40
      @pickleman40 Před rokem

      Sounds like the XM 25 too

  • @andrewoh1663
    @andrewoh1663 Před rokem +1

    Most informative! Thanks

  • @arthurfleck4973
    @arthurfleck4973 Před rokem +4

    Thanks for the great videos!!!! ✌️from 🇨🇦

  • @voshod1ua
    @voshod1ua Před rokem +5

    Ukraine actually produces it's own automatic grenade launcher called UAG-40 (УАГ-40). It's lighter and more comfortable than soviet AGS. Sadly there is a little information about usage of this systems, but it occasionally pops up on different photos and videos, like recent post from Ukrainian General Staff, where UAG-40 is being used by 46th aerial assault brigade alongside different western systems, like VAB apc.

    • @rc3178
      @rc3178 Před rokem +1

      Смешно,оукраина что-то разработала-это нонсенс.

    • @StandingHereI
      @StandingHereI Před 10 měsíci

      де производит? Адрес подскажите, мне для друга надо

  • @TAR3N
    @TAR3N Před rokem +5

    These are clearly the best videos you do !!! They’re always well researched and organized. I demand more !!! 😊

  • @rolyantrauts2304
    @rolyantrauts2304 Před rokem +1

    Great info as always.

  • @dalestark3343
    @dalestark3343 Před rokem +1

    Nice as usually CC.

  • @walczyc9572
    @walczyc9572 Před rokem +3

    11:30 I talked to many guys who served and fought, they call it aiming by firing. Basically you fire and see where it goes, then you adjust, once you get to that target/perfect point you just continue on working on their positions

  • @attilakiss5400
    @attilakiss5400 Před rokem +7

    I'm eager to see in the near future the further investment of the Wagnerian combat shovels. Those SoB's are the modern warfare deadliest things according to both British and US MoD's. Since the past 2 month the Russian and Wagnerian forces using those weapons achieved a pretty significant territory gain in Bakhmut.

  • @rocko7711
    @rocko7711 Před rokem +2

    I love these videos

  • @GI-AUS
    @GI-AUS Před rokem +1

    Nice one Cappy, at ease.

  • @Th3Shrike
    @Th3Shrike Před rokem +5

    12:26 mmm yes, the tactical Jack o stance

  • @fmann7545
    @fmann7545 Před rokem +4

    The airplane, machine gun and tank all changed the nature of warfare, Now the drones will make their mark in history

  • @MaraudersWorld
    @MaraudersWorld Před 11 měsíci

    Great thorough analysis!😎

  • @yayhandles
    @yayhandles Před rokem +1

    Knowing that your team is running with a Mk-19 is a serious morale boost, no doubt.

  • @teodor4ik183
    @teodor4ik183 Před rokem +4

    Not only drones, but also aiming with special software. Operator choose weapon and ammo. Specify its coords. Drone operator send target coords. Ballistic calculator specify angles for weapon. Next step is to correct wind, elevation, etc by drone observation. UA have tables for most of weapons, even RPG7. Yes, you can fire RPG as ballistic rocket in some cases.

    • @Darwinist
      @Darwinist Před rokem

      Mount this in the back of a light vehicle like the Oshkosh L-ATV, paired to a drone with thermal vision that can lase a point and get it's GPS coordinates. Targeting computer back in the L-ATV that either automatically adjusts the gun, or spits out a firing solution based on the location of the vehicle. Also, since you are mounting this to a vehicle anyways you can carry an absolute buttload of ammunition and even a spare drone or two if the first one is downed. Crew: Team Leader, Driver, Gunner, Drone Operator.
      As a bonus, have the targeting computer able to accept targeting information for other sources like more advanced drones flying higher up, forward observers or whatever.
      This could be an absolutely devastating light unit for rapid anti-personnel fire support, both in defense and while advancing.

    • @bkane573
      @bkane573 Před rokem +1

      It’s all just math. Any 11c mortar nco could do it.

    • @Darwinist
      @Darwinist Před rokem

      @@bkane573 True, but a targeting computer can do it faster and with more of a chance of not having to adjust after the first hits, or adjust very little.

  • @Mygg_Jeager
    @Mygg_Jeager Před rokem +3

    I remember when Russian military bloggers at the onset of the war were talking about this weapon as if it was a top-secret new doomsday death machine... And I was like, are you talkin about that fifty-year-old automatic grenade launcher? XD

  • @mikeyourbag8997
    @mikeyourbag8997 Před rokem +1

    Great report

  • @johnnycaps1
    @johnnycaps1 Před rokem

    Drone technology is impacting the battlefield in ways that were not initially perceived. It must be terrifying for both sides.
    A masterful explanation.

  • @sleepingninjaquiettime
    @sleepingninjaquiettime Před rokem +3

    Being able to get rounds on target is paramount. An SF guy taught us that. He would carry an M203 with training rounds and every time they took contact all he would do was mark the enemies location with that orange powdery shit. Great for urban combat.

  • @finaldrive6224
    @finaldrive6224 Před rokem +12

    Excellent weapon for a sidecar on a motorcycle.

  • @bfchristianbf
    @bfchristianbf Před rokem +1

    I love this idea of a middle men between MG/HMG and a grenade launcher

  • @bruceboyer8187
    @bruceboyer8187 Před rokem

    Well laid out Cappie

  • @someboi4535
    @someboi4535 Před rokem +4

    bro said Russian use of the AGS with this tactic is rare... bruh

  • @rainbow_tactician
    @rainbow_tactician Před rokem +3

    Mom can we have a mk19?
    No, we have a mk19 at home.
    "Mk19 at home"

  • @busboy262
    @busboy262 Před rokem +1

    I gotta hand it to you. You quoted Russian Company sales figures with a straight face. I couldn't have pulled that off so convincingly.

  • @parallel-knight
    @parallel-knight Před rokem

    Absolutely love this weapons system!

  • @craig4170
    @craig4170 Před rokem +3

    How is he able to make so much content, always surprised when I see another upload.

  • @halfpolecat278
    @halfpolecat278 Před rokem +4

    We used to do this all the time in the field with a mk19. Just swap one of the rear tripod legs and the front. Mini mortar!! IMGLC 0331!!

  • @roblowe9283
    @roblowe9283 Před 4 měsíci

    Such a Great Show !

  • @williamwells1862
    @williamwells1862 Před rokem +1

    Great Stuff

  • @plKleczek
    @plKleczek Před rokem +4

    There is a spelling mistake in the name of AGS-17 (in the very first seconds of the clip) - it's "Plamya" (Пламя), not "Playma" (which would be written in Russian as "Плайма", but there is no such word).

    • @bracoop2
      @bracoop2 Před rokem +3

      He not only butchers spelling, he butchers the pronunciation of almost every foreign word he uses. It’s like he can’t read.

    • @bkane573
      @bkane573 Před rokem

      False. He pronounces it correctly. If non Americans pronounce things incorrectly; they should fix themselves and use the proper (American) Pronunciation.
      It had hardly SGT Cappy’s fault non Americans use nonsense symbols to
      Represent made up sounds.

  • @klafsen
    @klafsen Před rokem +4

    A friend and I used a drone and an m203 in ArmA 3, interesting to see that it's not just a game-thing.

  • @doujinflip
    @doujinflip Před rokem +1

    I remember playing the Bridge map in the early America's Army game, and some of us figured how to use the M203 as a mortar on the enemy spawn point to score some first-minute kills

  • @TracyNorrell
    @TracyNorrell Před rokem +1

    Which mic do you use? The lapel or the desk? I'm guessing the lapel, as the blu mic on the desk is facing the wrong way. Audio is pretty good either way.

  • @insaneadventures4391
    @insaneadventures4391 Před rokem +3

    Correct me if I'm wrong, the soviets made the first automatic grenade launcher, but they still copied the American military's homework.

  • @MordaxTenebre
    @MordaxTenebre Před rokem +6

    would be interesting to see how it stacks against the mk19.

    • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252
      @chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Před rokem +3

      Apparently the AGS40 is twice as powerful payload wise and has a longer range, I'd expect that the mk 19 is very similar in power to it, so the AGS17/30 is less powerful, but more mobile.

    • @MordaxTenebre
      @MordaxTenebre Před rokem

      @@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 The AGS40 is using a 40mm round like the Mk 19 the USMC uses. So I'm curious how the rounds are more powerful payload wise.

    • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252
      @chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Před rokem

      @@MordaxTenebre the mk18 with high pressure rounds is probably pretty close to the Russian 40mm, but I'd have to look at the specs. Payload size and composition.

  • @MBP1918
    @MBP1918 Před rokem +1

    Impressive

  • @BetterThanLifeProd
    @BetterThanLifeProd Před rokem +2

    The AGS-17, unless it has been seriously modified, has a minor flaw. A misfeed strikes the feed plate and explodes, generally taking the remaining ammunition and the crew with it. (Learned during Afghanistan.)

  • @ivan200804
    @ivan200804 Před rokem +7

    US has MK19, but brass wont allows anything fun with it.

  • @nono-hn7tv
    @nono-hn7tv Před rokem +3

    The fact that you attribute this tactic mainly to Ukrainian forces shows some bias. This tactic wasn't invented by the Ukrainians, nor the Russians. As matter of facts Russians have been using the AGS-17 as a mortar with the help of drones for years now. This tactic was used a lot by Spetsnazs in Syria, and I believe to have seen some US SF use it before too. The fact that this tactic isn't written in any military handbook, doesn't mean it's new or inexistent. Russians nor Ukrainians aren't catching on to this. They have been doing it for a long time, and you can actually see it being portrayed in the Wagner movie "The Best In Hell" which comes to show that the tactic is widely used by both sides.

  • @jaymac7203
    @jaymac7203 Před rokem +2

    "Tool factory number two". How catchy. Where do they come up with such inspiring names? 😭 lol

  • @nataliiateteruk585
    @nataliiateteruk585 Před rokem

    Thanks for making these videos without so much rudiculusness as before with those puns, irony, sarcasm and introAmerican jokings. This is very informative and appreciated.

  • @critterjon4061
    @critterjon4061 Před rokem +3

    One thing that the Ukrainians have taught us is that everything is artillery if you try hard enough

  • @just_a_turtle_chad
    @just_a_turtle_chad Před rokem +25

    What keeps surprising me is how they keep telling us Russia ran out of ammunition yet they're still here.

    • @AnInterestedObserver
      @AnInterestedObserver Před rokem

      Russia is going to win, Ukraine is going to lose, that has been obvious from the beginning but the so-called Western leaders are simply too thick to realise that. After all with US military leaders like Milley and Austin, what sane person would believe that the US military could fight and win against a girls' school judo team?

    • @jugganaut33
      @jugganaut33 Před rokem

      Russia isn’t even close to running out of ammunition. They have warehouses with 3000 Tochka U’s. 5,000 S300 missiles. They could fight the remainder of the war just with their missile reserve. Then launch a EMP to make everyone shit their pants and stay where they are.

    • @Funko777
      @Funko777 Před rokem +2

      What? Like the whole Russian military ran out of ammo? What idiot told you that? I've not once heard that statement....

    • @4lyfMotorhead
      @4lyfMotorhead Před rokem +2

      That's because you're an idiot who believes in propaganda. No one is saying that Russia will have 0 ammunition. That will never happen since they will always have some in reserve and they will never go bellow that amount plus they still have factories producing it. But if you use your brain for research instead of following propaganda, you will find out that the missiles they are using are either really old tech pulled out of storage or brand new stuff that has just come off the production line. Which is why they have reduced the rate of fire from their peak use.

    • @Rake3577
      @Rake3577 Před rokem +3

      They are going to run out of ammunition all the way to Transnistria

  • @williamwells1862
    @williamwells1862 Před rokem

    Pretty amazing.

  • @GoonyMclinux
    @GoonyMclinux Před 11 měsíci

    The mark 19 can be used the same way and has been, its almost a lost method but actually works pretty well.

  • @oldguy217
    @oldguy217 Před rokem +3

    Good content as always, but try stay clear of bias towards Ukraine, be neutral and keep more subscribers.

    • @dauzlee2827
      @dauzlee2827 Před rokem +2

      Not to mention he attributed the tactic to the Ukrainian even though it was used by Russian much earlier than the war, clearly showing some bias

  • @Skyhulk95
    @Skyhulk95 Před rokem +3

    So the Russians just don’t use this grenade launcher only the Ukrainian right ok lol

  • @TRAZ4004
    @TRAZ4004 Před rokem +2

    Thanks Cappy, I’m trying to avoid the dumpster fire in NYC.

  • @timandsuzidickey9358
    @timandsuzidickey9358 Před rokem

    nice.. thks

  • @ray-pingminors1210
    @ray-pingminors1210 Před rokem +5

    Give free access to your content on youtube or lose this subscriber.

  • @Sagart999
    @Sagart999 Před rokem +3

    I'm surprised you didn't mention the Ukrainians' new use of the grenades, as dropped directly from small hovering drones.

    • @serch3ster
      @serch3ster Před rokem +1

      Why new, Ukraine and Russia have been doing that since 2014.

    • @ShantanuSuchil
      @ShantanuSuchil Před rokem +3

      Considering grenades have been dropped from baloons, planes and airships I doubt doing it with drones is considered that original and innovative.

    • @goodlife6277
      @goodlife6277 Před rokem

      And Rússia too...

  • @CARL_093
    @CARL_093 Před rokem

    wow i just learn more from this

  • @Hiddenus1
    @Hiddenus1 Před rokem

    Nothing is more powerful than love, except grenade launcher. :D

  • @gruenerteufelDD
    @gruenerteufelDD Před rokem +3

    Lmao, Russia has been short on everything since April last year, right? But isn't it Elensky-Clown who is begging for ever more weapons and money? Thx for the weapon review but pls keep Propaganda out.

    • @ChucksSEADnDEAD
      @ChucksSEADnDEAD Před rokem

      It's Zelensky with a Z. Stop being a snowflake afraid of a letter.

  • @Penigale
    @Penigale Před rokem +4

    Russia: Mom, can we have MK 19 Grenade Launcher?
    Mother Russia: No son, we have MK 19 Grenade Launcher at home

  • @RantTheRetort
    @RantTheRetort Před rokem

    The MK-19 also is used as indirect fire. Marine machine gunners also used to be taught how to use the M240/M60 and M2 as indirect fire, though this doesn't get taught as much, and put into practice even less.

  • @jedimindtrix2142
    @jedimindtrix2142 Před rokem

    rofl the guy at 7:58 is lovin life at that moment!

  • @aron7439
    @aron7439 Před rokem +4

    🪖🎖️🫡🇷🇺

  • @righteousone8454
    @righteousone8454 Před rokem +4

    Ukraine will "borrow" some of it, once Russian gives up their positions.
    Also, first.

  • @KennyNGA
    @KennyNGA Před rokem +2

    my man using metric system he evolved

  • @j.z.5678
    @j.z.5678 Před rokem

    That dudes execution was a plot twist that I did not see coming

  • @markgonczy8293
    @markgonczy8293 Před rokem +3

    russia have low drones, ammo lol... russia have infinite ammo and lots of drones. ukraine dont have ammo and have few drones

  • @sanguinius3938
    @sanguinius3938 Před rokem +10

    i can't wait to see original comments about how the Russian army has no ammo, ( so why are they still taking Ukrainian territory??? ) we'll never know.

    • @kored8688
      @kored8688 Před rokem

      Are they? Seems like the russians haven't advanced in months.

    • @saiprateek5779
      @saiprateek5779 Před rokem +4

      Great thing about Ukraine and worse thing about Russia is these reasons:
      1. Communication
      2. Efficient Usability of weaponry
      3. Tactical approach in warfare

    • @tomhenry897
      @tomhenry897 Před rokem

      Not taking any land

    • @KnightNave
      @KnightNave Před rokem +3

      Its not no ammo, its that they cant distributed it effectively due to push logistics. In addition, the USSR and Russia makes "Peacock" weapons in response to new Western designs. Unfortunately while the Western military industrial complex produces and distributes these new designs, Russia tends to make these "Peacock" weapons to prove that they are still up to par with Western weapons but never puts them into production/refinement.

    • @Oblivisci........
      @Oblivisci........ Před rokem +2

      Yeah for every 100 meters of land 1000 dead russian soldiers. Great strategy there.

  • @jmanj3917
    @jmanj3917 Před rokem +1

    8:51 MK-19 kill radius is 5m; casualty radius is 15m.