2253 Fast Freezing Machine - Is It Fake?
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"....NOT A CHANCE!" I blew milk out of my nose with that excellent delivery, the suspense was exhilarating.
Always good to have a debunk video every now and then!
And they are mixing air in the pipe with a flammable product, just waiting for the boom!
And this is the art of the "Foley Mixer" you see in all the movie credits.
The people that fake stuff like this are despicable to say the least. On the flip side, finding an old compressor is relatively easy here in the U.S. at least. And using that in a custom loop is easy
I'm not sure what's worse, the ppl who fake these machines are the ppl that refuse to accept they're faked
Anything for clickaroonies.
Knew what was coming from the get-go, but if there was any doubt, it was cleared up when you said, "I'm not targeting any particular individual.", LOL.
Even without the video editing, most hydrocarbons injected into a system utilising push on pvc hose are going to flash off the hydrocarbon liquid and absorb heat until the liquid is vaporised but it’s using it as an expendable refrigerant, the pump and other components are just props
Hey Rob thanks for the video. I was watching a couple video's about radiant cooling paint which were produced by @NightHawkinLight and @TechIngredients. They were formulating a radiant paint which can dissipate it's heat through reflection of microwaves into space and will produce temps below ambient in direct sunlight. I would love to see your take on this technology. With your experience in battery technology and other chemistry I feel you could come up with a formula we could all make at home relatively simply and cheaply. Anyways just a thought for some content in which I know I would love to see. Thanks again. Cheers
Quick note, Nighthawk and Tech ingredients don't use microwaves, the best approach or analogy would be a different "color"of infrared, which isn't absorbed by the atmosphere nor the material below, so it gathers heat as anything, and then radiates it as infrared light into space
I've actually been working on a demonstration model of the cooling process. I have already discovered that it's possible to get enough pressure in a 3 part syringe to make the butane condense!
The problems i'm running into is that syringes are made out of polyethylene or something, so nothing can be glued to them. Also, the liquid butane appears to degrade the rubber seals fairly quickly, and finally at pressures of like 2 to 3 bars, the syringe body tends to stretch and expand, making you lose pressure.
But the entire thought behind using the syringe, is that you can literally see the gas turn into liquid when you press it hard.
At a certain point i made the entire system with some cheap one way valves for aquarium air bubblers - but those also weren't able to resist the pressure of about 3 bars. Not very surprising.
In the end, i fear i might have to make my own transparent compressor cylinder from thick walled acrylic or something.
Glass syringes have no rubber and move a lot easier than poly. The smaller-diameter ones might even withstand considerable pressure.
Two bars is near to tyre pressure for most cars . Three bars is for heavier duty tyres . Then I wonder if the squeeze tube silicone type sealants for automotive use can withstand butane without swelling because they do withstand petrol , for purposes of sealing the syringes .
If you are compressing a few drops of butane. You're not really moving enough heat to cool or warm anything bigger than a shoebox.
A 5ton ac needs 20 pounds of coolant. Compressing that generates lots of heat you need to get rid of.
Plus the frosted evaporator will cause issues if the ice builds up too thick.
I had a friend who though that if you got put naked in outer space you would freeze instantly. I had a hard time explaining that it would probably take an hour for a body to reach freezing in outer space. I blame movies for his misperception.
It's the vitreous humor boiling in your eyeballs that puts me off the whole naked-spacewalk idea.
@@samuelfellows6923 Space isn't a true vacuum, you wouldn't explode like a movie; though your eyes might pop out.
You can actually survive space for almost 60 seconds. The people who say you freeze instantly or pop, are the same people who say Mars doesn't have an atmosphere.
It depends on where you are "in outer space". If you are in shadow and in contact with a conductive surface a body will freeze very fast. Flash freeze fast. In vacuum and in the sun, more like cooked. Both ways, you more get freeze-dried as all the water sublimates leaving a dried husk.
@@fritz1990 "Survive" but you aren't going to like it and you aren't going to be functional for more than about ten seconds. From the perspective of human biology, no Mars doesn't have an atmosphere.
Rob, as an HVAC/R Contractor for more than 30 years, I say THANK YOU, for showing these charlatans to be false. It is just another attempt, by people, to show that HVAC industry is an 'easy' thing to master. While the industry rarely uses capillary tubes anymore, it is THE easiest way to get the job done.
Keep up the good work.
Godspeed.
While it may give some the impression that this stuff is easy, I wanted a demonstration of why it's hard. Will no one make one with a hand-crank compressor?
Nice. I hadn't seen any of these "Instant AC" videos before. My first thought when watching it was that, yes, the butane can cool the system. But only once by evaporating out of the system. Even then, it wouldn't get the result shown of just the coils cooling.
Thank you for this vidéo!!! Greetings from the Southern cone in Chile!
Howdy from Oregon, USA!
Didn't expect a debunk video haha, I was in the trance that it worked until you said 'not a chance'.
Im not allowed to play with butane in the house anymore 😞😂
😂😂
There is a story there that needs to be told….
My well water is 62-67*F, I’m thinking of have it run thru a radiator with a fan in the summer time to pull some heat out of the house. Will probably pump it into a 500 gallon cistern and let it recirculate with a solar powered pump. Raising the temp of that volume of water in a day should be in the 30k watt range, or several tons of A/C in theory.
Need below 50 to cool. Maybe a water cooled DX system.
All my dreams of a cool summer are shattered now... Thanks Robert! 😁😁
Thank you very much...
If You use Winter Propane in a heat pump it will work just fine, even the sillicone lubricant can be removed as propane is a lubricant.
Im currently uses an old Air to Water heat pump to heat my hot water to 68-70C
Its ben running for two years now and works just fine (actually i removed the air coil with a cheap plate heat exchanger from Ali Express to "take heat" from rain water and solar waterheat panels)
All with legal gas and you are free to do this without a certified tech . also the amont of flameble gas is lower than you can store at your kitchen, maybe 1kg.
It worked as refrigiant media for 100year before cfc came along in the 60s
The problem isn't the compressible, it's the compressor. He doesn't have one.
Thank you for showing the truth and not that hooky crap.....I really appreciate that.....
A Makita or Milwaukee batteries powered DC brushless motor will be strong enough to drive a pump for the pressure of butane to make it freeze.
In the video, the capillary tube that was chosen, was far too large in diameter . That have smaller diameter CAP tube.
It will work.
Must have clamps on the hose. I would use the clear hose that has a few material filaments embedded in the plastic for strength for the pressure. But still see through.
In the original recording of this monstrosity why wouldn't these scammers simply edit the video backwards but leave the audio tracks as they were recorded, forward? Also they can simply record more "forward" audio than they think they are going to need in case they run short in editing... These people really aren't that smart!
Hey Rob, I saw your mushroom show, and wanted to let you know about something that they are doing now. They make a form, and coat it with a releasing agent, and then spray spore into the form. Then, they close the form, and keep it hydrated for a time. Then, when they open the form, they have whatever they molded. This is being used for several different things, but I thought about using it as a replacement for larger dimensional beams, specifically for walls and such. What do YOU think about it? You could do a long show on using this "new" technology.
Not sure about "new" but I saw this tech, about 20-30 years ago on an episode of a TV show, pre or maybe early internet times, 90s-00s. I wonder why it is taking so long to make this Styrofoam replacement? The episode showcased oil (petroleum) and plastic eating mushrooms and other tech too. Seems to be suppressed for some reason... (shrug)
@@The1Elcil It's not being supressed, as usual follow the money. Current methods are fast, cheap and well established. Nothing is stopping you from setting up your own I-beam mushroom company.
Hi Robert; I have a related question about the type of refridgerators found in caravans, Absorption Refridgeration. You may know this works by applying heat to evaporate a liquid (usually ammonia) which then absorbs heat as it condenses, creating cold. My thought was; would this work when the heat applied came from solar radiation, possibly concentrated? For hotter countries where there is more sunlight, this could be an alternative to Air Conditioning. Thanks for all your great videos and information.
Rob actually has a video on this idea already. If I remember correctly its based on using pure UREA and a type of KAOLIN clay. You can find it in the video Library
Thank you, Robert, for saving me a few pounds 💷 😂😂😂
I watch that clip few days ago, I didn't know it was fake. It looks like a reasonable thermodynamic cycle
but a small pump is not able to compress vapour phase of butane to liquid phase, now everything makes sense.
Super! Thank you very much!
The energy in question is the limit of the output thats suggested. 1w watt in will always give less than 1w out due to the interactions of that 1w making something happen.
As annoying as fake things are on the internet for giving people the wrong idea about how the world actually works, it should be at least appreciated that they always give us a chance to think about why it doesn't work. I also just appreciate the scale at which we wish these things would work. I mean, is a tiny refrigerator that works in the exact way as the larger ones too much to ask for? And while we're on the subject of whimsical impracticality, I kept wishing these videos would replace the electric pump with a hand crank compressor. I want to do real work to get my cold soda, gosh darn it! None of this battery nonsense!
humm butane does condense from a vapor to liquid at about 35psi and the guy was using a diaphragm pump , I just so happen to have one that is about that small that the Chinese say it can put out high pressure out been meaning to build one to see if it works.
Very good mate
Good explanations thanks but i will try with my better usb fan new style ones wich produces better cooling should perform ;!
here is a tip for bending soft copper. you can keep it from crimping and flattening by filling it with sand and capping both ends off first.
I am shocked, shocked, that there is dishonesty on CZcams!
thank you!
On the subject of air conditioning etc, have you seen the evaporative cooler that Tech Ingredients did? I want to build one full scale in my shop and see how it works. Im in the humid north east of Texas so I can give it a solid test.
I've been thinking about making alloys a lot lately and wondering if it's doable to make in a microwave like the ruby made by nighthawkinlight. Maybe venadium-iron alloy is possible. It's interesting talk about the magna cut steel and if it's got an edge over typical high carbon steel or if it's more trouble than it's worth.
HELLO EVERYONE!! I am back from my adventures. Glad to see another informative video from Rob. I gotta point out, we have been using FLASH FREEZING tech since the 60s. Mainly for things like Astronaut Foods and novel items like flash frozen fruits. Now it is my humble opinion this is another case of Right Idea, WRONG EXECUTION... but simply because the execution of the idea is wrong or flawed it does not mean its impossible or crazy wrong... So I pose a question TO THE WHOLE community... For a design like this, why are we mucking about with BUTANE??? When a device can be made to run on condensed OXYGEN from the air around us. Dry Ice and a simple aluminum roasting pan for the oven are all thats needed to CONDENSE and collect OXYGEN from the air we breathe. Would it not be possible to set up a simple pump and reservoir that can hold a bit of dry ice, that can cool down a large surface area that can then condense oxygen into liquid which could then be run through some pipes and then be let out to evaporate? No need for a high pressure pump/ condenser
Backwards video (film) and a string is how Luke used the force to fetch his light saber
Thanks for that debunk, I would never try it as it contains butane which burns.
An idea for you to tinker with Stress Reactive Paint. A paint which changes colour when stress is applied to it, I have no chemistry knowledge but a paint you could apply to say a bridge where you would see weak points virtually glow.
Evilbay selling tiny R134a compressors that fit in your hand, but I suspect any DIY cooling unit will suffer from liquid refrigerant running back to the compressors which isn’t good. But I’d love to see one in use.
Hi Rob please could you do a video on a ice bath ,cold water therapy immersion normal size bath with water want to get down to 6 degrees in the bath , thinking coil fridge compressor , pump but ozone to keep water clean bacteria free ,unsure how to monitor the temperature , for machine to shut off , and how big the coil would need to be and how to join the components .
Can you come up with a device to cool a vehicle. My 2004 Saab wagon ac not working. estimate is $2000. Not worth it. Summer is on its way in S Florida. HELP
On the plus side, you CAN just buy a little Peltier device from an electronics supplier, and put 12v DC and a couple of amps through it, and it will get freezing cold.
Thanks!!
Thanks for posting this...thoughts on Chinese patent law?
Thanks for debunking these garbage videos that are clickbait with no concern for being able to actually build something useful.
Its pretty vexing isn't it? Also how 99% of people online are combative and smart asses. Keyboard warriors and clout worshipers... just imagine another 30 years
I need to get back to trying to get an induction furnace add on to melt metal in a graphite crucible from an induction cook top.
i did do something on induction heaters and built one mate
@ThinkingandTinkering
Do you remember the episode number?
Which was a wonderful idea, by the way.
I've got quite a bit of copper and gold to cast.
I bought a phone cooling fan that magnetically attaches to the back of phone, it has an aluminium heat sink and a base plate where it connects to phone. I didn’t expect much from it but it does get ver very cold like ice cold to the touch and condensation forming, it can’t be far off icing up! And I think in cooler weather it could well do it. For just a simple usb powered fan and heat sink it’s pretty amazing!
I think people would still click it. If at the end the people that make these videos debunked themselves.
Sir, a inventor PA USA made a curious device, and you might debunk or prove him(he was on TV, but then 👻).
So he took cylinder of metal, bore rows of shallow holes in it then added it to tight Sleeve, one pipe into center and one on end, alinged like Squirrel fan/turbine .
So Spinning the Cylinder inside is producing very high Temps in video, outlet side is Steam.
But the video, got altered then gone, TV spot said 110% efficiency just spinning a cylinder (with cylindrical pockets) real fast.
What first got clipped from video was direction of spin and the Pressure differential either making Water hotter, or different direction spin, cooling water rather quickly. Long winded here but, You did this trick with oil and tin cans for heat, but with little adjustment could you try to get a remake and see if Cooling is 110% efficient and that's why the original video was edited then gone. The cooling part had me, it makes sense, how this pressure differential maintained via engine could be Game changer.
I see if it pans out, Stirling engine coupled with this concept might be self powering, post initial Starting force put in.
Love your work, Cheers
The cylunder thing is or rather was called a sonoacoustic boiler, they used wayer ram and mechanical heating for boilung water, sorry, spinning it the other way arround also produces steam, wont cool water.
Company withdrew the 110% efficiency after they got better meassuring, still pretty efficient, and then fwll out of buisness when tailoring maintenance and wear vs an electric heating element.
Now make one that works, with the smallest compressor?
Your home fridge (unless it's really old) uses butane as it's refrigerant.
Look at the model label, if it says R600A it uses butane.
Would it be possible to make a model heat pump out of bits and pieces. Although the easiest way to do it would be to dismantle a small compressor fridge and use the parts from that.
Theoretically, it is a refrigeration system but is there a pump out there that is that small that could make the refrigeration cycle work because all the components are there, but the crucial component a way to compress the butane gas enough for the refrigeration cycle to work. I like to see you, Robert try and make one of these that actually truly functions. See if you can find a pump that would actually make it work and not be fake. I have thought of myself trying to make one of these, just to see if it works I experimented with a parasitic pump and a little miniature refrigeration system, and the one problem I was having was not enough compression to have the refrigeration cycle start working I got close there was a very tiny amount of cooling
Just FYI, fill the tube with sand before bending and you won't get the flat spots. Or at least not nearly as bad.
use a nitrogen flame to run a caravan fridge freezer
Excellent video again. Unfortunately It's like the free energy rubbish that people buy into.
Plenty of fools out there that believe anything they are told.
They have no ability of critical thought. Just what the government want. Good little sheeple.
So many liars and fakers on the internet; thanks for showing this false project and how it might be made. I hope someone might get a clue as to how much of this exists.
Thanks again for the videos and all the hard work I know you put into them. They are really appreciated!
for those who don't know, in some of the videos the air pump they are using is a 12v, 12 psi (max) pump which is used to inflate balloons and in some other videos, they are using a water pump to pump air because air is also a fluid right?🤓 the butane or gas lighter fluid they are using should explode while the are running. sadly it is not happening. And i also have made one using the air pump(knew it won't work) the pump mechanism just exploded for some reason...
I saw one of the fast freeze today, it actually looked feasible the in the way it was constructed. The two main pipes were joined with a much smaller diameter pipe, maybe 1.5-2mm, which in theory would allow pressure to build up. Though I would put a kink, or squeeze the smaller pipe, to give it more restriction. Would be interesting to test it, to see.
go for it
Maybe if you had a real compressor pump. Tube and a small capillary tube. Seen it done with random refrigerator parts then put real antifreeze into it or the safe stuff. Maybe propane.
I saw a similar video last year. Started off stating it used a hermetically sealed mini air compressor. Seemed plausible, not very practical. Capillary tube seemed to large to work without being pinched or something. Looked like it was filled with maybe a 1/4 oz of butane. Thought if it did work the 9 volt battery wouldn't do much, possibly demonstrate the working before the butane leaked out.
Still one of the best sites on CZcams
Hilarious, so next question is what is the simplest way to compress the gas, could you put a check valve and a pressure release valve in line in this system to act as a way to cause the gas to recompress back into liquid form in order to heat and cool the gas ?
Nope, you still need to force the gas to cram together past the one way valve, which will be harder to open with each pump
Is there not a component that use a angle to direct air and make it hot out one side and cold out the other with no moving parts in it
Make one with a hand operated compressor to show how hard it actually is. If fake videos give the wrong impression about how easy it is to get nice things, do a real video with showing how hard it actually is. There's nothing like physical effort to demonstrate how much work it takes to get something useful. It's easy enough to find a hand-operated light bulb or radio, and we can see how much effort it takes to run those. Let's have a tiny hand-operated refrigerator!
Did you read the news about "self-heating" concrete from Drexel University?
I know you have touched on the GEET principles. Can you build one?
i thought i had made one - i will have to look back lol - even i forget what i have done!
@@ThinkingandTinkering i will seach agian.
Couldnt find it... thoughts on GEET?
Good call. Would like to understand more on that "multi-Fuel" trick, myself. Saw videos in past, but having Rob produce a working one, would take the mystery out of these.
Hey, maybe you could make a bicycle powered heat pump 😂 that way you could heat or cool your house while you work out. I'm sure that would be equally as futile... Well, maybe the heater side of it would work, but you'd probably just be warmer from exercising.
lolol - yes you probably would mate lol
Turboexpanders/detanders freeze very quickly.
It's not a pump, it's an IMPLOSION ENGINE/LIQUEFIER.
Ha ha soon we have to call you Mr. Myth buster
How about a video where you make a bellows based heat pump?
i have done it mate - ages ago - literally - about 4 years ago i think
Or something that's not a collection of clips
you know i do a make video and it will get - 5k ish views - i do a few clips and add in the make it will get 50k views - which would you do mate?
Do you have a real system maybe with ammonia the sun reflector evaporator and condenser put together for your video. Seen it on home power magazine and other articles to make lots of ice with the sun.?
So the pump is for moving a liquid only , it can probably move a gas but not efficiently . Butane is liquid up to .6° C but stays liquid to higher temperatures under just a little extra pressure as in simple plastic cigarette lighters. Just wondering if there's a critical gimmick that might actually make refrigeration by use of a liquid pump work instead of using the usual required compressor. I'm too tired though.
If u used a refrigerator pump amd vacuumed the system down and made a perfect seal.... ideally butane would work for a refrigerator. But if you don't remove the oxygen you are making a miniature bomb.
Thanks from me also 😅
Now build an absorber with heat as the driver.
Assumptions and judgements without a shred of proof is to be expected . With no genuine reasoning
Ohh Ok, I am Early today!! 😃❤
me too lol - awesome!
@@ThinkingandTinkeringThank you so much, I have to admit that I was Almost fooled by these,,, but I was thinking that looks far too fiddly to make and how on Earth do they really get the pressure right?!
(*Okay, I was fooled 100% Lol!)
Please don't tell Anyone!!
Glad to see you still Thinking and Tinkering.
Namasté 🙏🕊️💞
Andréa and Critters. ..XxX...
You dont even need to mute the video or add any sound effects, you can just choose to reverse only the video and keep the audio track as is. Every video editing software can do that
Thank you for debunking this!
👍👍
Doesn't peltier cool fast like that or am I mistaken??
But, why does the pump stop working?
the pressure is too high
At least these people are better than the people who want us to believe that they have invented a battery without a separator or other necessary components. At least they have all the basic components needed for an air conditioning unit -- though nowhere near the power needed to get the job done. Still, it's not an ABSOLUTE insult to our intelligence like many of the battery videos are.
The question is: what pump is big enough?
Even the pump was powerful enough to keep the butane flowing and it was all sealed properly, what's the point supposed to be? Why does anyone want a frozen coil? Are we supposed to imagine it will cool the room and forget that there always has to be more heat given off by the condenser coil an the evaporator coil takes in.
I can never look a film the same😢
I blame todays public education in the west.
these videos make me laugh. they put in all the effort and get the process mostly correct, by all means it could work - then they go and do one daft step like in this case use a regular pump instead of a compressor and fake the whole thing. Why not just go the extra step and put in an actual compressor? 😆
Well.Butane is a depressant and users report a range of highs, including euphoria and hallucinations. The effect is short-lived. Chronic users will often continue inhaling to prolong the effect. So some benefit can come of these coolant designs leaking, and left over Butane supplies🤢. L.O.L.
You can see how they've done this on my channel.
Seems like nonsense. There's no high pressure vs low pressure side. PV = nRT, R = PV/nT. Need to change pressure and/or volume in order to change temp. R is a constant of nature (classical physics). n is the number of atoms in mols, and damn well better be constant in the system or you have a leak. No hose clamps, a hose with a needle hole in it, no compressor, this thing has no chance to stop leaks. A compressor strong enough to cool would explode pvc tubes, possibly copper as well, but would absolutely pop off friction fittings or even wire clamps. You need flared tube with compression fittings, or you're making a bomb of sorts. Butane plus a sparking DC pump and fan, that's just asking to burn your garage/house down.
I don't see a point other than views, but why go through such an effort only to fake it?
They could have just fed the device liquid butane from that bottle, piped it through coils and cap tube, then simply vented the gas on the other end.
It would have cooled and worked, for a few minutes. 👍
But naturally 99,9% of people watching such videos would have absolutely no clue about how a refrigerant cycle works anyway...
Thanks for debunking. I wonder why people bother putting so much effort into a fake.
If theyre using butane then yes, it will get cool. Just not cold. Hyperspace Pirate has a series discussing his trials (and errors) making a cryo pump.
He started with butane, but I think he ended up using two different refridgerants and a low side/high side configuration to get temps below zero.
I dont completely understand it myself so its probably better to watch his channel if you want to make more sense of this comment.
Do they work? As real as perpetual motion, when will.people ever learn?
Are you saying people lie on the internet?
😂