HOW TO THROW WITH THE HIPS (MORE DISTANCE AND ACCURACY)
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- čas přidán 9. 11. 2023
- Talking a little bit about how to properly engage the hips in a disc golf throw and what to look out for. Thanks for watching!
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Great video. Really love the explanations here.
Great to hear! Thanks for watching 🙏
@@LeonSonnleitnermuch better explanation than overthrow has ever given. I'm sure you'll be seeing it with Josh claiming he found it on his own.
@@bobbob453haha that's so true. He sees this guy who actually has an original thought and it blew his mind. Over throw just repeats things they've heard from other disc golf teachers. This guy just explained it how he saw it and felt it. Not how others saw it.
@@danmalia5184 If you have a coach who never takes inspiration or ideas from other coaches he would be a terrible coach. Good coaches you are referring to got alot of their ideas from golf and baseball coaches, see how that works. We can only hope that all dg coaches shares leons ideas improving more players and growing this godamn sport. Complain less learn more.
@@bobbob453Weird how you say that as if josh doesnt give credit to seabas, loopghost or jaani whenever he shares their opinion and ideas. You are straight up lying to create nonexisting drama.
Honestly, maybe the best breakdown video on the hips I've ever seen. Thanks!
thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏
This is probably the best explanation I have seen yet for the right way to get your hips engaged correctly. I'm headed outside to try this now.
Great to hear! Grind don't Stop 🙌💪
Finally a video that I can completely understand. Great job explaining and showing how it's done! Can't wait to try it.
This is one of the best brace tutorials I've seen. I'm not bringing my right hip back; I over-rotate and land on my left foot if I'm throwing hard, so I'm getting no power from my lower body because of the lack of a brace. I appreciate the video!
Thanks a Lot, glad I can maybe Help! Stay patient and keep working and success is inevitable 🤙
I'm with you man. Shoulder is paying for it too.
What a fresh presentation of subject matter. You have a great perspective of how you utilize this technique that works for you and might for others. I love the fact you discuss and show the improper and the proper method with insight of what to look for or avoid. You have good presentation skills and I can tell you will develop them even better. Praying and hoping this give to the community will result in great success in your career. Thank you !
Thank you so much for the Kind words! Glad you enjoyed it 💪 thanks for watching!
Im a newbie disc golfer and I've seen my fair share of tutorials. Nobody nailed it half as good as you. I hope this goes viral because it can help a lot of people.
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Those are some big words, thank you! Thanks for the Support 🙏
Great video! No one's ever nailed down those aspects of the throw like you did here. It's really great to have someone of your rating caliber making instructional videos! I hope you can keep making form tip videos.
Thank you so much! Can't Put into words what that means to me! Will definitely keep'em coming!!!
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The most important part of learning the backhand is understanding how each part of the form should "feel" when you do it right.
You’re hitting all the right points in this video. 👏
I’m officially a fan.
big words, thanks a Lot! I definitely think that "feeling" Form is more important than any specific Angles because if it feels good it Most likely Looks good as Well 💪
I've been playing for about a year, but have never been able to figure out what to do with my hips. I don't really have a brace at this point. Thank you for this excellent video!!
A lot of people can explain the different body parts that are not where they should be. But the person who can explain how it should feel from the player's perspective, is the one that's truly useful! Please make more videos, you've earned a subscriber!
Great to hear and I am happy I can maybe Help Out a Bit! Will definitely keep the Form Videos coming!
Love it! ❤
You're sharing Simon's secrets. Amazing video. I wanna go work on this right now. But it's midnight.
Hey man this is awesome! Really great way and havent heard this explenation before, ive been trying really hard to figure out how to get the hips engaged, ive made progress but this has been the best way to approach it imo as a learner
Love this ❤. Thank you
Glad you liked it!
Great explained! You showed me the mistake I was making all the time! Can‘t wait to get to the field and work on that!
Nice, only a Matter of time until you Figure it Out 👍
awesome video, thanks for sharing these insights. You remind me with the horizontal step of horizontal fingerings I teach on my instrument. It's subtle and hard to grasp but substantially more efficient and effective!
This is perfect and what I've been looking for!
Happy to hear that!
Wow, I have never heard about pushing the right (or front as I’m a lefty) hip back and that is what makes you get a straight leg automatically. I have been working to try to get that straight leg without much success. Thank you for the great tips, I’m going to try this tomorrow!
Glad I can give you some new input! Good luck with the tryout Part tomorrow!
I want to leave some feedback now that I have worked on the technique a few times.
Wow! This was the true game changer! I threw a decent backhand before (and in terms of distance I don’t know how much I have added because I have mainly tried it with putters and midranges). But when it comes to a clean release and a consistent aim the difference is like night and day! All my discs were super straight and landed in a very concentraded area. As I said, this will be a game changer for my backhand, and I can’t thank you enough for this video!
agree - video and explanation is massive! great thanks for this simplicity!
Glad you like it! Thanks for watching!
Thanks a lot! I've been struggling on this for a bit. This really helped to explain what I'm doing wrong. Got my sub! Looking forward for more videos!!
Great to hear! Glad I can Help!
Excellent explanation! Thank you so much...
Glad I can help my favorite Spanish Euro Tour man Out!!
This is such good information! Keep this series going
Thanks, will do!
great video, this will give me something to work on!! Thank you!
Thank you for watching!
Much appreciated form video Leon! Great explanation and break down of the brace, very helpful.
Thank you! Glad I can Help 🙏
Best video I’ve seen on this! I didn’t understand till this ! Thank you!
thanks a lot!
Great advice! I think this is right on. I actually watched a Discraft/Brian Earhart video a while back where four top Discraft distance drivers each gave a distance tip and Aaron Gossage gave this very tip about pushing the right hip back. He didn't elaborate too much. This is only the second time I can recall hearing this talked about. I can't wait to give this a try. Thank you.
Thanks for the Kind Feedback! Glad I can maybe Help out a Bit :-)
Amazing stuff!
Thank you!!
Well explained! Good work!
Thanks Rasmus 🙏
Wow, thanks dude! Great tip, and great explaination
Glad I can help! Thanks for watching
Here from DgDoctor, your form is so smooth I only dream of coming half as clean as yours
Haha thanks so much! You can get there for Sure 🙌
Great video. Some of the best instructions I've heard. I actually feel like these are things I can implement into my game. Thank you from a new subscriber!
Super happy that I can Help! Thanks for watching 🙏
Very nice video , well explained, thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Great video all around!!! Looking forward to going out with this knowledge bc brace is a huge issue with me. THANK YOU!!!!
Thanks lot! Thank you for watching!
KEEP IT UP!!!!!!!!!!! PERFECT VIDEO
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Super-simple pre-shot thought. Very helpful.
Simplicity is King! Thanks for watching
This is the best form video I have seen. 💯💯💯
Thanks a Lot!
Great video, it was easy to digest.
Thanks a Lot!
Hello, and many thanks for your help. Never thought of the lead hip snapping back but it’s MAGIC!!!
Super happy to hear that! Thank you for watching
Showing the common mistakes, which I've been making, is eye opening. Thanks for the lesson!
Thanks for the Feedback, glad you Like it!!
The BEST backhand video has just been posted.
Thank you, Leon. Seriously!
Thanks for the high praise! Means a Lot! 🙏
Wow, very good video. You explain it in such a simple way. I finally know what i'm doing wrong. Keep getting discgolf content out because you are really good at it 🙌😎
Makes me super happy to hear those words, thanks so much!
WOW ! this is the clearest explanation of the hip rotation. Thank you
Happy to hear, thanks for watching!
This is so good. Thank you! Liked and subscribed 😁
Glad you liked it!
This one thing you need to know about the hips.. thanks to this video I know it now!! Great job Leon, thanks a lot!
Thanks! 🙏🙏🙏
Great video Leon, nice points!
Glad you enjoyed it!!
I really like your teaching style! I feel like I've heard a lot of this info before, but never put together so concisely. Instant sub from me, keep up the great content!
Super happy to hear that, thanks for watching!
Fantastic video. I like the straightforward approach without any fluff. Please make more videos. Was sent here by Spin Doctor. Liked and subscribed.
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Hey Leon... Jaani pointed to your channel. I have seen tons of videos about the brace and hips. This might be spot on. I'll try this out later today.
Btw I like the way you explain it, can't wait to see what else you have coming for us. Thanks man
Great to hear, thanks for watching!
I found this video extremely insightful especially as it relates to the cues for the left leg "following through" as a sign of improper rotation; and later in the video the cue to focus on the right hip to help trigger rotation after the brace.
Thanks to DG Spin Doctor for pointing me here!
Thanks for watching!
My dude! I’ve watched so much on bracing. For the first time it really clicked after watching you. I’ve never had discs come out this way before. Didn’t think 500 was possible until now, you’re the man
Great to hear that! Welcome to the 500 club :-) Thanks for watching
Great stuff
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great tips man.
Thanks a Lot!
Great explanation of the hip action.
Thank you!
I never understood that i was supposed to push my right hip back....in 0 videos, maybe i completely misunderstood them....this makes it soooo much easier and feels so natural and smooth and actually feel power used, not wasted ❤😮thanks for that explanation, so simple and easy to notice now🎉
Glad I can tell you something new and Always happy to help someone throw with less effort!
Indeed, it is counterintuitive. The only other video where I have seen this mentioned explicitly is in this Brian Earhart distance tutorial, where Aaron Gossage talks about it at 830 (he mentions driving the whole plant leg and the knee back rather than the hip, but it seems to be the same idea.) czcams.com/video/vgfkl53lNGE/video.html
7:00 this here is one of my mistakes, thank you Leon for making this video and also for pointing out the common mistakes! (I had problems with my Ischias Nerve after Discgolf a lot of times, probably because I sway the hip out and over extend my hip rotator cuff)
Could very Well be that! Good form prevents injuries and lets you practice more!
This was a simplified version. Very easy to follow and understand
Glad to hear that!
One word: awesome. Thank you. Will practice tmrw. I’ve definitely been doing the wrong way.
Thanks so much, good luck with figuring it Out!!
I hope you know you’re in a league of your own. I haven’t come across a single player with the skill set you have that also understands what is happening in the body from a biomechanical perspective. Major props 🙂
Thank you so much for the high praise 🙏🙏🙏
This is the best disc golf footwork video on youtube
Thanks a Lot! Always happy to Help people with their Game!
I've never understood the brace/hips. Appreciate the insight and original explanation!
Super happy to Help! Thanks for watching!
Excellent analysis of the use of hips. Jaani said to come and take a look at the source of his newest video. He basicly agreed with most everything you explained. Liked and subscribed.
Great to hear, thank you!
I am glad you focused on the hip rotation. I get more energy into my throw when my hips engage and then my arm is pulled forward from the rotation in my hips.
Probably true for everybody! Thanks for watching!
im crying, i thought this was a discus video for 3 MINUTES and then i realised its fancy frisby 😂
😂😂😂 Hope you found the discus Video you were looking for 🤙
Really good video! Also note this concept applies to the forehand throw. Cheers
Thanks! Definitely true on the sidearm Part as Well and actually what I did to gain some forehand distance this Summer🙌
I've watched a ton of form youtubers, and you are one of the first to correctly talk about how the hips work. I have been using my hips like this for my standstills for a while, and have gotten them to 400ft+. Do you have any tips for transitioning from standstill to x-step? When I try this with the x-step I feel like I either don't brace enough and fall over, or I brace well, but my right hip jams up and doesn't fully clear behind
Thanks for the Feedback! Generally speaking I would tell you to Work on your runups in a super slow way and Work your way Up. You obviously have the hips down If you can standstill 400+ so it's Just about getting used to your Body moving into that Position with some speed. Slow to fast, you got it!
Best explanation I've ever seen! Great job. Now I finally feel like the baseball swing. Being a right handed batter, the left handed batting position was always awkward. When I tried my right handed batter swing, I noticed I pull my front hip back and not the back hip forward. Know I can do it left handed!!! Cant believe its taken 8 yrs to figure it out.
Keep posting your videos. Now lets have FH then Putting please O please.
Thanks for the Kind words! I don't have any Personal experience in Baseball but I actually looked at a Lot of Baseball slow motions for my Form studies! Glad I can Help!
Very good video clip. You explain everything very clearly and in detail. WUAAAAAU.😮😮😮❤❤❤❤ I will wait for more of your videos. Maybe someday you will make a video about the for hand shot.?!
Thanks a Lot! Might do some forehand stuff Soon!
the tip about pushing sideways. holy moly what a difference in feel
Great that it instantly works for you, that's my Intention!
This is the sauce 🙌 I've been a left hip guy...not anymore
Great to hear!
@LeonSonnleitner I went right to my son with this info..he picked up on it almost instantly. He's 8 lol
Danke dir. So klar hat es noch kein CZcams Coach erklärt. Mach bitte weiter.
Freut mich! Werde sicher weitermachen 🤙
This really helped show me what they all mean by stop strong arming and keeping your arm loose. The power difference is crazy and feels almost effortless in comparison to strong arming the disc.
Great to hear! Thanks for watching
Life changing video! I've recently started playing again after about a 4 year break. Overall I've been playing since the '90s with multiple extended breaks. At my best I was maybe 320' consistent with a few throws reaching around 350' or so. Since I started again I've been consistent at 270' and have only hit 300' a couple times, likely mostly thanks to wind.
Regardless of how far I throw I have always struggled with heel turn and follow through and planting my foot. I'd always pivot on the ball of my foot and have zero follow through and never really stop but my momentum would carry me forward off the pad. Even when I'd try to force those things they wouldn't really work.
Then CZcams recommends me this video shortly after you uploaded it. Almost skipped it as I figured I don't need yet another video that isn't going to do me any good but have been trying to do more with my hips lately and had some time to kill so figured why not. Seemed interesting and definitely not advice I had ever heard but wasn't somewhere I could throw and it was night anyway so committed it to memory for the next day.
Went out and played yesterday and my very first throw - wow! Heel turn! Follow through! My leg planted! It just FELT so right. No need to see video of myself, I could immediately tell it was much closer to the classic form you see from pros and other elite players than I've ever been. And while it was the same distance as I've been throwing it felt so much more effortless, like I was throwing an 80' approach.
Played again today and it already feels pretty natural. I've been playing wooded courses and haven't had time for field work but I can't wait. It feels like I finally have the solid base I need to be able to build to a proper throw.
One issue I've had with the new throw is I keep getting stuff way too high. See you just released another video about proper arm usage and nose angle, which seems like exactly what I need. Off to watch that now!
Thank you!
Super glad to hear that you managed to fix a problem you've Had for some time that easily! Always happy to hear Stories like this one 🤝 thanks for watching!
rofl, life changing.
@@davehart9972 yes? I've been playing since years before CZcams existed. There were maybe places on the internet to discuss form at the time but I didn't know of any. My form was developed by just doing something that felt vaguely correct and watching other people, who had developed their forms the same way. As a result I've never had great form. For 25+ years I've had something that kind of works OK on short courses but doesn't hold up as holes get longer and more challenging, leaving me frustrated. For years I've been trying to make changes to improve and have had marginal gains here and there but nothing that really felt like something I could truly build off of. Until this video. Suddenly it feels right. Suddenly it feels like I'm doing it the way I see great players doing it. No change has ever felt this good and given me the feeling that I can really build from it. And considering how much disc golf I play - usually at least 18 daily, often 36 - it has changed my life and renewed my passion for the game.
Please make a video on upper body/head/arm setup to make this optimal. Its really easy for my shoulder to collapse when i think about starting the movement with the front hip.
I plan on dropping a video about some upper body stuff either today or tomorrow! Hope that can Help a Bit!
Wow, this is a game changer. I have 420ft of distance but have hit a barrier in my development and can’t seem to improve. I should be able to throw 500ft+ (I’m young and 6’2”), this might be what changes things for me. I definitely way over rotate and am not getting my left hip back (I’m lefty). Thank you so much for this video!
Super happy to hear that! Hopefully you can figure it Out! (Im also Young and 6"2 by the way so nice coincidence there :-)
Bro for a young guy you have a really firm grasp of technique and quite the knack for explaining it.
Thank you!
I'll speak for everyone here and say we would love more of this instructional content!
Thanks a Lot! I will definitely keep Them coming!
Thx for the video, it adresses a mistake i'm making frequently havin lots of trouble to stay of the teepad after the release. Btw. DG Spin Doctor brought me here.
Gruß aus Stp
Glad I can Help 👍 shoutout STP ❤
Nice job.
Thanks 🙏🙏🙏
Good job with the video and your form looks great! I think of the right leg as stopping the forward momentum of the right hip, forcing all the energy into the left hip, rather than the right hip moving back. Another thing worth mentioning is the fast hip coil just before the the right foot steps down, which increases the pop/speed/rotation. I think it should be included here.
Thank you! I personally don't Like to think about the hips coiling before the foot Starts to hit the ground (for me the motion feels like hit First, then coil) but If that thought works for you that's all that counts! Keep grinding 💪💪
Great video! How do you modify your form when it is a bit slippery?
I would also love to see how you would explain the upper body movement and how that feels for you.
Keep up the great work! 😊
Thanks!
When ground conditions are bad, I Always chose a shorter runup and try to keep my movement nice and slow.
Dropping a video on how the upper Body feels/should feel either today or tomorrow!
Nice video! Keep up the good work and you'll get noticed!
Thank you! Gonna try to keep improving my Video quality and hopefully it will pay Off🙏
@@LeonSonnleitner don’t try to do too much at once. Try and make 1 thing better each video. Give it time. Good luck!
@@novapunkx That's what I'll try to do! Next vid coming soon 🤙
Liked. Subscribed.
Thanks, helps a Lot!
This one really clicked for me.Thank you. Any tips on how to do this drill into a net
Nice to hear! In general, I think Training into the net should Always be about Feeling every shot and evaluating every shot. Also my tip is Going slow to fast with your net practice Sessions!
Thank you
Liebs leon !!🤩
Danke dir!
My back heel almost kicks me in the behind after I throw. 😂 starting to think that’s the wrong way. Well explained video, have my sub young man!
might be due to some hip-pushing! Wishing you success with figuring it Out. Thanks for watching!
Best form video outthere
Thanks!
DG Spin Doctor sent me
nice 🙌😁
Love the video. Can you do something on the throwing arm or lead arm?
Dropping today!
@@LeonSonnleitner❤
Thank you! This is the missing piece I’ve been looking for. None of the other “coaches” explain this hardly. And it never made sense to me because if you watch a pro in slow motion their brace hip is always “screwing” backwards like this
Glad I could help!
Trying to implement this for the past 3 months I've just now realized that it's way easier when my front hip is out in front of me. So when I'm doing my x-step/reaching back I almost stick out my front hip. Then when I throw it's way easier to get my front hip back. I was watching your throw and I noticed how you did this (4:30), and its helped me a lot. Thoughts?
Leon, would you say that keeping the hips level is important? As in relation to the ground? In order that as the brace extends out to the plant one has to sink down on the back leg yeah or else we end up falling onto it? If I stay to upright with the back leg, for the plant leg to “find “ the ground I would have to tip over onto it, it would seem. Thanks to this great analysis, I think I know how the brace works and feels, I just want to be able to get to it in motion, right now it’s more only in the standstill. Thank you for breaking this down!
First of all, thanks for the Kind words!
I think that If you stay upright and tall and don't sway into any direction your hips should be level to the Ground anyways! Hope this helps
Legende!
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Thanks. About the standing up straight comment, what about hyzers? It’s okay to hinge the upper body over the knees more, right?
Yes for Sure! Keeping the hip action going while throwing a hyzer is pretty difficult. I am Planning to do a Video about that exact issue in the Future.
Hello, if you have the opportunity, could you do a video on Stan still approaches please? I have an issue with aiming at the slower speeds. Thank you so much.
Will try to keep it in mind for Future Videos!
Great video! Quick question, what are those pants? You wouldnt happen to have link?
Thanks! They are the Standard Nike Dri-Fit Golf pants in black, absolutely love Them!
Thanks alot man! Will check it out!@@LeonSonnleitner
Man, that part about not swaying your hips really hit me hard. For the past several weeks my right hip has been really bothering me and I knew that it was because of the way I was throwing, but couldn’t figure out exactly what I was doing wrong. And now I know that doing that was really messing my hip up and hopefully now I can correct it.
Glad I could maybe offer some Help!
@@LeonSonnleitnerso I just came back from the course near me to try this out. Consistently threw farther and straighter with no hip pain. Awesome video, keep ‘em coming 👍
Great video and explanation. My problem is that when I start to focus on just turning my hips, I tend to round and shank the throw. At what point do you start to pull with the arm? I feel like I turn the hips and my arm lags behind and then the disc flys out to the left. ( I am a lefty) disc would fly out to the right for right hand.
I actually dropped a Video on exactly that Yesterday! Feel free to check it Out, I think it Adresses your question directly 💪
so similar to a baseball/softball swing when done more correctly. i explain it as the hips will actually feel like they are popping more than turning or rotating. your technique seems like a hybrid of throwing a ball, hitting a ball but back leg movement looks like a golf swing.
I don't have a lot of experience in Baseball but "popping" the hips seems Like a great way to Look at it! Thanks for watching 🙏
sweet video! any tips on how to throw nose down?
Hard to give one specific piece of advice on nose angles but I will drop a video about that exact Thing next week! Hint: staying relaxed in your arm and keeping everything horizontal go a Long way 😁
I'm struggling with my hip popping out, going to try using better posture. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!