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what if you're fascinated by these games but have never played them before, and want to learn to play them but you're autistic so it's difficult interacting with new people (or the people at the nearest game store aren't receptive to newcomers)?
buena info¿pero es necesario romperlo ? :s
For me, Betrayal Legacy also has one big thing that puts it above other Legacy games:
After you're done with the campaign, you still have a playable version of Betrayal
However, it is a version that is entirely unique due to your campaign and the things that happen there. That's something special
And considering all the options for being a monster/alien/assassin/ghost and who knows what else, replayability is not a problem in that front.
Agreed. I love all of the Betrayal variants, and Legacy was a blast to play. My group may be one of the few out there who played a perfect game (as in, aside from when they couldn't, all of the haunts were won by the heroes. Yes, ALL of them, and it was legit, too). Not to put him on the spot, but there was one part in the game that had such a huge twist, my roommate actually had a minor panic attack from the stress and anticipation of it all, it was THAT intense of an experience.
Charterstone does this thing, you have a worker placement legacy game at the end of it a unique worker placement that no one else will have the same. Did it the year before Betrayal.
Also machi koro does this as well.
i think most legacy games actually do let you keep playing your unique end product, like risk legacy after 15 games somebody names the world but then you can keep playing it.
"Basically, if you want to be varys from Game of thrones then-"
"THERE IS NOTHING MORE RELAXING THAN SITTING ON THE COUCH PLAYING SOME CANDY CRUSH SAGA!!!!"
CZcams actually nailing ad placement for once.
This video has single-handed made me wish I had friends who were interested enough in board games to play these
Betrayal Legacy is just amazing. And the best part is that, once it is done, you have your own unique but entirely playable/replayable version of Betrayal. Depending on the path you took, some items/rooms/omens will not be in your version. And some of the ones that are in there will be different; without spoiling too much, you will end up with your own unique network of secret passages as just one example.
It would be cool to have the collection starter list for "classic" games. If only to see Adam suffer
I just want to thank you, Adam for all the videos over the years about wrestling and board gaming. I have never commented on one before. Seriously, Clank Legacy is my favorite game I’ve ever played! Can’t recommend it enough!
Betrayal is my favorite board game ever, and playing through the legacy version was amazing. Absolutely killer.
Machi Koro Legacy is simply fantastic. Playing with a 14 year old and a 12 year old, it never seemed like a stressful situation. All four players won games and it was a great twist on Machi Koro that we already loved.
And from watching this video, I am really intrigued by My City for my wife and I. Mission accomplished.
I had somehow had not really heard about legacy games until Laurie's video. Will definitely be giving one of these 8 a go when regular gaming is possible again.
Thank you No Rolls Barred! We bought our first Legacy game which was Pandemic Legacy Season 1, and it is so surprising and fun!
Man but these videos make me wish for a board game group
Gotta make one, it sucks but it's possible
Same I really want one too
Go to a game store(places that have Friday night magic for example), talk to people, there's people who tend to meet up the same days of the week and build relationships from there.
With covid that might not be advice to take for the time being but you can find a group eventually.
Board game retreat anyone? 😊 But, yeah, with these lockdowns, makes creating board game groups even more difficult than before! Outside of restrictions, I have found that going to clubs and cafes are the best way to meet other players. If none in your area, it’s easy to start one. Find a bar or cafe with appropriate lighting and tables and ask the owner for their quietest period. Generally happy to then advertise for you in their window.
Great video, thank you for making it.
I love legacy games. We have finished Gloomhaven (and Forgotten Circles & Jaws of the Lion). In a different group we completed Pandemic Season 1 and got halfway through Aeon's End Legacy, but the Pandemic killed that play through, and I doubt any of us are keen enough to pick this up again. Instead, we are looking at Betrayal Legacy, both after this and the 5 Games 4 Doomsday review of it. Kings Dilemma is on my wish list for the next big purchase once I have played through some games on my shelf of shame.
Anyway. Thank you again, great video.
Me and 3 of my mates have been playing Gloomhaven every other week for almost 2 years now.... we think we have 2 or 3 gamenights left before we've completed it.
Hahaha that worship the helm bit was so good, many songs were sung I'll put it that way lol
Legacy games are great! They provide such a longer and broader experience that is just what we need right now with the latest lockdowns! We’re (2 of us) enjoying Clank Legacy at the moment. Fantastic! 8 days in and still loving it!
I really hope you give Clank! Legacy a try, its the most fun of any board game I have played in a very long time. The narrative is so much fun!
looking forward to a video board games explained and list one of my all time favs is atmosfear
Oh my gosh I absolutely miss the feel of those old VCR games
Lightning crash - "STOP!!!" Me: "Yes, my Gatekeeper!"
I played the entire Betrayal campaign between Christmas and New Years with my wife and my parents. It was amazing!
100% agree about that first session of Betrayal Legacy. That was probably one of my top 3 experiences playing any board game.
What I love about gloom haven is its as fun with 2 people or 4 and it's easy to switch in and out so if someone can't make it (which is 90% of the time) you can still play it, there's a solo mode as well but I've never tried it
We found that switching from 4 to 3 changed the difficulty. With 4 players it was somewhere between Punishing and Impossible. With 3 it was between Manageable and Challenging.
@@kev_whatev I've only gone from 2 to 3 and back. Funnily enough I remember the first few missions harder than the later ones
solo is the only way i've played. i've had a ton of fun with it (controlling two characters).
You're description of risk was hilarious 😅 turning Australia into a DOOM FORTRESS
So far I have gotten to play four of these games(Pandemic Season 1, Clank, Machi Koro, and Betrayal) and anxiously awaiting to play Pandemic Season 0 and King’s Dilemma.
Gloomhaven. Is. Awesome!!!!! But you need the tray set up to keep everything organized. So definitely get that too!
Never played any Legacy game so far.
Thanks for this list. I added some to mine.
I might try Pandemic and Betrayal. And maybe also Machi Koro.
8:01 we did random draw for a game of pandemic (which i know is what you're supposed to do) and i drew contingency planner. I actually used almost every card again, still didnt help much but it was fun lol
My group is in middle (literally) of Betrayal Legacy and so far we are realllly enjoying it. So much so I got myself two more legacy games for the future usage (Charterstone and Seafall) - we shall see :)
1:28
Holy shit.
I love this custom map of risk
I'd love to see monthly series on Legacy games. It'd require a lot less strain on Tom than a No Rolls Barred TTRPG actual play (which, let's be honest, would HAVE to be GM'd by Tom) while still providing one big story with the Crew!
I play gloomhaven weekly, I love it so much, and absolutely adore my play group, we have so much fun!
I've wanted to play a lot of the games on this list. I have only played Betrayal Legacy. And you're right, the experience is just as much about the people you play with as it is about the game itself.
Useful Gloomhaven tips......
Get an expanding file to (alphabetically) store the room boards
Get the box insert trays
Those two will make set up & break down much easier....though it'll still take a few minutes
Get the App's....all 3 of them.
One tracks the overall campaign, what scenarios are unlocked, town prosperity, characters levels & equipment, achievments etc
One does the scenario set up, lists map boards, monster types in the scenario and how many / placement etc
Last one allows you to enter player turn order and then generates the monsters actions, allows you to track hit points, conditions, shows you trap damage, coin value etc
using that file thing + plano boxes cut my set up time nearly in half, though it still feels like it takes forever.
i haven't got around to the apps yet, though. i kinda like the feel of doing everything on the table even though it makes everything slower.
god, i love this game. and also absolutely hate it at the same time. the gameplay is amazing. everything else feels like work. >_
@@conedx The app's will reduce set up time a little more and auto balance the number / level of monsters according to your party. I've found it keep's the balance really well so each game could be lost if you're not on the ball.
They will also reduce your "paperwork" while playing as they track attacks, initiative order, HP's, attack modifier draws for the monsters.
Keep the player stuff on the table so everybody is tracking their health, XP, item usage etc and let the apps look after the critters.
It's a great game alright.....with all the social distancing i'm playing it on steam even though they have yet to release the full campaign on there.
One of my favorite all time video games is return of the Obra Dinn
It’s beautiful
Unfortunately
As it is a puzzle game
Replay value is rather low
I have to start seeing legacy games like I see that p
Had a regular, standing "Risk: Legacy" game for awhile years ago, and I cannot tell you the mad fervor that suddenly sprung up when, just sort of checking out the box's construction, I discovered a little envelope that simply read: "NEVER OPEN UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE."
We were already 7 games in and none of us had found it. It sat in all our consciousnesses for weeks afterward, we'd randomly bring up in quiet moments, 'What do you think is in the envelope?' and during games we debated whether to open it, when to open it, what could POSSIBLY be contained within. And we were not disappointed.
Dude your channels great
Betrayal Legacy is my favorite board game experience yet, and my friends banged this out it in like 2 days with like ~22-24 total hours between the 2 days. It was a f*****’ riot. Love that game with my whole heart
I've knocked over Pandemic Season 1, half of 2, Charterstone and Scythe's legacy campaign 'Age of Fenris'. The Pandemics are easily my favourite (weird sentence but okay) because the cooperative nature meant that everyone at the table had a good time whereas the competitive games left at least one player behind in not really having fun. It was interesting as there were two games of Charterstone happening relatively simultaneously through our group and what was a really strong combination in one game simply didn't work in the other. It also had a catch up mechanic that I absolutely hated because it didn't really scale for how far someone was behind. I'm guess I'm saying Charterstone's weird but I still have a second copy waiting to be played. Legacy games are great.
gloomhaven is an absolute overwhelming colossus of a game. it's ridiculous. the gameplay is frickin' amazing. i love it so much. the set up/tear down? not so much. i've got everything sorted in a way it only takes 10ish minutes to set up but still. ugh. i'm happy i bought it. it's a game i'll be playing for the next decade but jesus. it's just SO MUCH. the biggest selling point for me was i can play it solo. i don't have anyone to regularly play games with (maybe once or twice a month i have someone) so being able to play a giant legacy game alone was huge for me. some day i'll actually unlock a new character, cause i haven't even got that far yet.
Good luck finding "Betrayal Legacy". I've been looking for it for THREE years! And nothing! not a sign.
I love this channel and these lists so much (Adam is a god...fight me!) but they do upset me too! I want to play all of these games but I just don't have the people to do so :(
Charterstone and Clank Legacy are both great. Rise of Queensdale which was not mentioned is also great.
Betrayal Legacy is awesome! We were in the middle of playing it before 2020 happened, but hopefully we can finish it sometime this year.
Same, I had a group of friends I started it with in late 2019. Liked it so much I got it for my parents for Christmas 2019. Then lockdown happened and we never got to play. Got tested Christmas Eve 2020 just so my wife and I could spend the entire week playing it with my folks before we all had to go back to work.
I have a campaign of charter stone With one of my friends going and it's really fun sadly. I moved to a different state so we haven't been able to finish it yet but hopefully we're. About to halfway through with it. I'm not super far away. It's like only two hours so eventually we might be able to do it.
Legacy boardgames reviewed with Adam's absolutely fantastic analogies? Shut up and take my like.
Anecdote: I'm so, so happy I found a way to play The King's Dilemma over Discord with my friends. Most of them are from my D&D group, so the roleplaying is fantastic and everyone's VERY invested in the story. It's so good.
Got Gloomhaven for Xmas and getting ready to start playing.
it's because it took a couple months to set up, right?!
I still remember playing the first session of Betrayal lagacy.
It was so intense, when it dawned on me what happend...
Gloomhaven Jaws of the Lion is so good!
Well worth it!
As therapy during the pandemic I played Pandemic legacy 1 and 2. Solo but playing 3 characters. With some luck on my side (like ending a game the turn before losing) I've got top score on part 2.
I played Pandemic Legacy Season 1 and 2, Betrayal and Scythe and all players liked Betrayal the best out of the last 3 (the first was with a different group). We played PL Season 1 in one week during a trip to the mountains which is imo the best way to play (like binging a tv series).
The problem with Scythe was, that the best player got the most perks, giving him an even bigger superiority and then he just won every game.
What is that awesome looking game with the hex map and little red pieces at 0:30?
after listening to pandemic legacy's entry, I kinda want a "is pandemic actually good?" when I talk to gaming friends they either love it sighting it as the best co-op game or hate it because of the random elements or having bad experiences where one player just dominated the entire game and they felt like glorified model movers
This has been a regular philosophy topic among my gaming friends. Is it the responsibility of the game to stop quarterbacking OR is that a game group dynamic that we should manage ourselves?
I feel like people can QB in any game, bit in some games it would be socially frowned upon and therefore happens less.
When you have a hyper-gamer that wants to dictate exactly everyone's turns, then it is not the fault of the game (at least in 95% of the games), believe me, it is not Pandemic's fault for that.
I've played Betrayal Legacy 2 times through and it was amazing both times. Even after knowing all the secrets, I found cards that I was never able to see the first time, and I STILL haven't seen about half of the cards that go into the game. I wanna play it again!!
Nothing like finally using an item enough times to get them to evolve, first time we played none of them happened, then as I played with another group, I evolved the crossbow in the first chapters, it was a beast of a thing.
Seafall, Kingdom Death Monster, and Sythe Legacy are definitely at least honorable mentions for this list. Though I could see KDM being ousted as potentially not a legacy game per say as it is designed to be replayed in its essence I still look at it as a legacy game. Sythe legacy is in my opinion the best legacy game of all time. It takes the incredible base version of Sythe and adds all the campaign box opening fun of legacy games. Played it in full twice and definitely would do it again! But in the end I respect your opinion Adam, you are great, and ty for all your content! If you ever need an online player I’m always in! #boardgamethatboardgame
I bought Gloomhaven 8 months ago but we have yet to start playing it, it is a bit massive and I have an issue of getting the same people to have time at playing at the same time (and when we do, we usually play a TTRPG instead) and it is pretty time consuming as well. Oh, well. Hopefully we get time this winter.
i do wonder if the gag at NRB could do a play through of betrayal legacy
Surprised Seafall didn't get a mention
Um, excuse me, but what are those incredible modular shelves found at 0:13?
Clank Legacy is so much fun. It is beautifully designed.
A King's Dilemma looks really fucking cool... If I get into one it will most likely be that one !!
Would love to see the gang play kings dilemma
I have played and completed so many of these on this list. For me, legacy games are the absolute best. My quick rundown and order of that I played:
Machi Koro Legacy: Just wasn't for us. To be fair we played this after playing some of the other legacy games so it was just too simple and boring for what we wanted.
Pandemic Legacy:Fun but relentless, constantly got our asses kicked. Second ever Legacy played and first ever co-op style game.
Risk Legacy: The game that sucked me in. While fun it really showed off everyome's gaming skill level and style in ways that was unexpected. I won 10 of 15 games and each win was less fun as my friends were just getting lost and left behind.
Charterstone: Absolute blast, fun, whimsical. East enough for everyone to grasp and jump right into. Best of all the 2nd side to replay it over, absolute genius.
My City: This was the best game to have for the pandemic for my wife and I to play. It was everything we could have hoped for and that we could play through a second time was a nice bonus. Quick setup and pkay to where we could sneak a game in after kids go to bed before we do and wind down. Could not ask for more.
Betrayal Legacy: There aren't words to describe how enjoyable this is. Now that pandemic is winding down and my friends and I have vaccines, we immediately jumped back into this and picked up where we left off. This is everything you want in a game and as Adam said the people make it so much better.
That's where I sit with legacy games. I have Pandemic season 2, Seafall and King's Dilemma waiting in the wings and cannot wait to see what mysteries and treasures await in them.
You are hilarious 😂
The Kids in the Hall reference was aces.
Still not sure why people hate on the contingency planner so much in pandemic. I've never been able to win without him. Multiple quiet nights? Yes please!
Gloom Haven is our Legacy game . . . only if I set it up though. Otherwise it doesn't get set up. Oh, and dinner has to happen via fast food or takeout only.
you've gotta stop for dinner halfway through set up, right? and then when set up is done it's time for breakfast.
I played betrayal legacy having known the mechanics of betrayal very well. I was absolutely gobsmacked by episode one. I knew then that we were in for a treat.
And do not put your drink on the helm goddamn you Jesse you know what you did!
Do not disrespect the Helm
God damn such a good game
Any chance you guys might play a legacy game on the channel?
Betrayal legacy has some balance problems though. There are some scenarios that really could have used better play testing. However, it was still an enjoyable experience. I just hope they make an updated version with better balanced scenarios.
Just started the Betrayal Legacy. It's so amazing. An already awesome game becomes epic awesome instead.
I couldn’t help but notice “Pop Sickle” which is exactly what three completely different game groups I have named that card. Best Legacy game and my favorite board game of all time.
So I didn't recognize the woman "Legacy Games" clip, though she looks familiar, but I do somehow recognize the scene of one of Brendan Fraser's wishes from "Bedazzled"? Weird.
I got pandemic legacy season 1 a few months ago because someone was selling an unopened copy for like 50% off retail and king’s dilemma for Christmas. I desperately need the COVID situation to get better so I can play them with my friends because it hurts to see them in my shelf of shame.
So a legacy game is pretty much a campaign.
1:25 Hey thats me lol
This list was correct.
i wanna throw out a suggestion. make a solo play video! a ranking video, a "hey i like these games" video, or anything really. solo play is how i spend 90% of my board game time.
They do have a top 10 solo player games on the channel, though I would throw in 7th Continent on to the list, Adam isn't the best person to advise on solo games though because the man is such a social butterfly that his childhood biography is called 'The very social caterpillar'
So I'm guessing with the board/envelope alterations, you can't really replay?
FWIW, most of that price tag is because of playtesting. At least, that's what I've inferred from the price tag of "We Didn't Playtest This At All: Legacies".
I played pandemic legacy with my ex. We got to June (?) I think. I don't know if I'll ever finish it...
Is that a pile of grass, at @10:00?
Jaws of the lion... it’s not an updated “lite” version of gloomhaven.
Jotl is its own game completely, just like frosthaven.
i think "lite" in this case meant it's a smaller more managable version, not that the gameplay/game is watered down in any way.
Please do top card games. Collectable / expanding list IE: Pokemon, Magic TG, original Star Wars CCG, Munchkin ect. All in one list like: Quiddler, Phase 10, Uno.
Does Pandemic Season 0 come with a mug?
So in Pandemic Season 0 how many central american death squads do you arm?
But does Betrayal Legacy involve a spooky fridge?
I miss the Aeons end legacy from this list...
Does Tom Scott know that you used his face at 10:35?
After finishing gloomhaven I would put it way lower it starts a lot of cool stuff and finishes none of it. Me and the GF were really disappointed with it. Jaws was better but also was flawed. Now Betrayal legacy deserves its top spot that thing is a masterpiece. Played it fully once and started it again a month before covid happened. Also played through Seafall it had some great moments but the gameplay is repetitive and the person in the lead just stays there since there isn't really a catch up mechanic.
Even playing the normal Betrayal you are never quite sure what's going after the exploration part, but with my game group, we just play betrayal a couple of times since we like it more as a Halloween game, but the Legacy version? It is awesome!
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honestly the thing that drives me away form legacy games is that I just don't like the idea of permanently changing one of my games. its why i'll likely never try the "Exit" series
You can get away with not actually destroying stuff in some. But it ruins the experience imo
the thought of permanent changes to games is hard to swallow. the only legacy game i have is gloomhaven. i've not made any permanent changes, instead i keep a small notebook in the box to keep track of everything there instead of making permanent changes.
Which of these games is best for only 2 players? Or 3 players? Hard to get a group of people together these days....
The pandemic games play ok with 2 players but the best I’ve experienced so far with 2 is Clank Legacy. Though that may just be because we’re playing it now with 2. It’s classed as semi co-op but we play full co-op and love it!
@@intrepidmeeple7353 Thanks for the advice.
I was super excited about Gloomhave, but I don't know if I can handle permanently altering a game.
Then don't. Buy the reusable stickers and don't rip up the cards that tell you to. Just because these games are DESIGNED to only be played once, doesn't mean you HAVE to. These games USUALLY (eventually) have accessories available to make the game replayable.
@@smf5576 Thank you!
@@bridgetbadeaux3582 Just be careful what you buy and maybe only get what you really need now. It can get really pricey if you don't watch yourself. Enjoy!
i keep a small notebook in my box and i keep track of everything that way, instead of making permanent changes to the game. gloomhaven has reusable stickers you can buy, but (so far at least) my small notebook has done a great job.
@@conedx Anyone who is willing to pay this much for a board game and only ever plays it once is a moron.
What's the gane at 2:18
Had I known, I would have waited to buy Betrayal Legacy. It'll probably be the only Legacy game I ever get, due to the fact that I can keep playing it after the story is done lol
I got it for my friends and I after the lockdown is cleared and people are vaccinated, and I am seriously looking forward to it. Luckily, I only paid about 60 buck for it
I played the prologue and first chapter last night, it was awesome.
Mechs and Minions
These all sound far too stressful for me. I think My City is more my speed lol
Pandemic legacy hits too close to home nowadays
Gloomhaven is glorious but overwrought, and I plan to play Jaws of the Lion with my former Gloomhaven group (we never finished the original) when the world stops trying to kill us all.
Pandemic Legacy S1 is brilliant, I binged the entire season in two days with my partner at the time. Season 0 was not good, though, and my group never finished it.
Bad Adam!!!!
I love betrayal, I want to get betrayal Legacy now