This Could Change EVERYTHING.... Again. Bambu Lab's Big Announcement.
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- čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
- Bambu Lab rocked the 3D printing industry with the launch of their flagship X1 Carbon 3D printer. Wil they do to it again on September 20th?
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I really respect that you designed a mock speculative design to what the teaser might be for. It makes your theory convincing
Thanks 😃
I love the fact that you actually made the theoretical device and kind of puppetted it into "working" for the sake of demonstration, thats awesome!
Thanks! Seems feasible..
I think the multiplexer makes the most sense of all the theories I've seen out there. It fits into Bambu ecosystem. You'd still need a AMS, and it expands their reach beyond just their printers.
It's a cool idea but I think it's another printer altogether, a budget model like a bedslinger. That's where the "colorful printing for everyone" comes from. NBR thinks so too plus LoyalMoses said anyone looking at the Prusa mini or any budget bedslinger should wait because he knows whats coming...Then he put a pic of this BL extruder on the screen.
@@KiCkiN828 Its doesn't have to be a single thing they're releasing either. Could be both. small bed slinger and also to go along with it, a universal AMS tool for other printers. Guess we'll find out soon enough
@@JohnOlson I agree. But based on BL's history they usually release 1 product at a time to draw maximum attention to that specific item. While they could be dropping multiple items on the 20th it doesn't seem likely. I hope I'm wrong though.
I doubt Bambu will do that for third party printers.
@@rjakiel73 Why? they would make a fortune selling AMS compatibility to owners of other machines, once they have people in the Bamboo Lab ecosystem they have much more of a chance of selling them other products.
Wow this is really going to be a huge announcement! I am still building my MMU3 and I am shocked at the time it's taking. If Bambu releases a multi-material that is assembled (and works smoothly of course), I can't wait to see it! Thanks for taking the time to make this!
As other say the multiplexer makes sense. But the notice canceling would not work due to the source of the sound and the placement of the speaker can't be on the same place. This causes interferens patterns with both low and high sound.
awesome work, very detailed look into the new potential product, and this video got me even more excited for what it could be
Thank you!
I'm hoping that Bambu release an IDEX printer. Good that your AMS has worked well - mine has never worked properly. Always has a problem withdrawing filament for a colour change.
Your insane bro, such a detailed and even speculative analysis. keep up the work!
Haha thank you!
Very good deciphering of Bambu's cryptic teasers! I agree 100%, makes a whole lot of sense.
Wow!!! my mouth sits open at the amazement to your outlook on the upcoming announcement and your explanation and detail attention. WELL DONE!!!!!
Thank you very much!
@@ygk3d Got an email today from Bambulab about flow control?
Fantastic reporting and conceptualization Taylor. Blows me away... nice job.
Thanks Don. Much appreciated.
Going to be very interesting to see how close your prediction is. Thanks for the video.
Great video and production. I can appreciate the mock setup. This is the best prediction I've seen. you earned a sub!
Thank you very much!
If Bambu Labs really wants to own it all they should be looking into a retrofit for 3d printers. Reliable print heads, AMS, and custom boards. However as a stepping stone making AMS available for all printers could be their core business model and future market leverage to bring people to buy their printer for the AMS people already own.
I agree. I think it would be a great stepping stone. This device would be limited compared to the integrated ecosystem of Bambu… 2 AMS’s v.s. 4 and more filament waste due to the longer distance between the cutter and the hotend. There would still be a reason to want to buy a Bambu printer but this could be the gateway drug so to speak.
man, a noise canceling device would be awesome although I was really hoping for a new printer with a larger print bed that encompases all of this and maybe reworked the AMS to be able to print faster as changing colors really slows down things.
I never really thought of this angle. Interesting. Thank you.
This makes the most sense when I saw the second announcement I immediately thought it was 2 separate products but then I other people started to suggest a printer and I started to 2nd guess myself but now you’ve suggested this it makes more sense
I’m conflicted… I wouldn’t be surprised if there was more than one announcement. I’d love to see them implement the two ideas I presented in this video.
A multiplexer is a tough lift if it's not designed to be integrated with the hotend, extruder/cutter. It's been tried by multiple manufacturers and it's a tricky problem to solve. Considering putting the cutter so far away like you have means the retract/extrude behavior is very tricky to do. Even switching spools more than once I've had filament get caught inside an extruder if the gcode doing the retract extrude isn't perfectly timed. I don't see bambu doing that since they can't control the experience fully. I suspect an extruder hotend combo compatible with the AMS unit which has some standard mounting systems compatible with a few popular machines -- enders, vorons etc.
You are very right in your guess on this new machine. Well done.
They currently cut filament just right above the heatsink and look at the waste in multicolor prints. Imagine multiply that by the factor of tens because of the long bowden tube. If there’s really such a device it needs to be mounted just right above the current toolhead of other printers. They probably sell an adapter with it. Also the cutter on the right makes sense since most printers will have a limit switch on the left.
If the cut happened in advance of the intended change most of the filament remaining in the tube could be used in the print, without waste. This would, however, limit the minimum length of a color change. If the amount of that color required is less than the length of the Bowden tube, then yes, it would generate a lot more waste as the excess would need to go on the purge tower.
I had a similar thought process re: limit switch location. There must be some reason they put the cutter on the right and not the left…
Will it be proprietary, closed and cloud mandatory?
I think they discovered Andrew's TMC Autotune for Klipper and used it on their own drivers to silence the printer.
I think this makes the most sense and is what I was thinking too but you have put a lot more thought into it, like having the device placed horizontally compared to the picture. Note that in this teaser picture there is no logo, which would allow it to be placed in any orientation and not look odd (like an upside down bambu logo).
One thing I didn’t notice if you addressed is that AMS would need to be powered from the wall. So they’d need to also sell a power brick connector. Trivial of course but still. I don’t know if you were implying that the AMS would be powered from this device which is run off the usb from the printer. Not enough juice for that. And the AMS would probably still need a buffer system like the current hub has. Which has a spring system to give constant light pressure.
And agreed that the noise cancelling device is likely a different product.
Great video! Unfortunately, my experience has been awful. I received a faulty printer and when I reached out to support they took 3 days to get back to me. They had me troubleshoot the printer and after a week of going back and forth, the AC Power board was faulty. Instead of sending me a working 3D printer they are having to fix their broken machine. I asked for a replacement and they ignored my question completely. It looks like an amazing printer but their customer support is awful!!! I recommend buying a PRUSA printer.
This is really a fantastic idea and probably the most likely, if not, you have a great product on your hands!!!
Haha thanks! I hope it comes to fruition eventually… even if not in this launch.
Thanks for insight on what you think Bambu is up too.
Do you think they will come up with a firmware for other printers to make this AMS device compatible or just a Klipper feature?
It would be easiest to integrate if their was no firmware component to it. Just g-code being streamed to the printer from the multiplexer. Bambu Studio would add the extra commands to go to the purge tower and a separate file for the cut sequence and timing to control the multiplexer and the AMS.
I don't think that BambuLab would make such a device for other manufacturers. My theory is that they will release cheap a bed slinger with this adapter for multicolor printing. It would fit the slogan - similar to the AnkerMake Kickstarter.
I'm not too sure about the ANC implementation with a microphone/speaker setup. From what I know it is not possible to do that in a room because the soundwaves go in too many directions. There are some interesting videos about that here on youtube. I think that it would be more of a software fix/new fans/new stepper drivers or it could be related to the new bed slinger being very quiet.
No way they’ll release a bed slinger. The p1p is already a cheap printer. They have no desire to get into the sub $300 printer space with a cheap crappy printer. Leave that market for Creality and Prusa.
And besides, they say “Product Release to see how we can "Magically" tune down the noise.” That “magic” is not “here’s a slow crap printer that’s quiet”
@@c0mputer Let's see ;) 9 more days to go
@@niko3359 can’t come fast enough, I’m excited.
Interesting point on ANC. Didn’t think of that..
You need way more subscribers, loving the videos.
Thank you very much!
That’s super cool can’t wait until they drop this so we can buy it…
It was a good guess from what info was available at the time! 😊
Thanks! 😊
Love the mock up, very impressive!
Thank you!
I was thinking in the same lines as you but yours is way more precise and i love the mockup print you did of it!. I think you have it spot on!
Thank you!
The Annex Engineering Trad Rack mmu is pretty nice and simple with good performance. It's still in closed beta though.
I think your bang on the money with that! That’s what I think it is as for the second tease about the lower dB I think that’s a brand new printer I’m looking forward to the 20th to find out what its all about
Red hearing with only dual in/out - as there have been lots of AMS multi-feeder issues being posted.
I suspect it is a new improved AMS feeder.
I just wish the AMS bottom cover was able to be remove to clear filament clogs as my big paws/forearms have a real hard time reconnecting the inside two data cables (that are about 6" too short).
I think you nailed it. A universal AMS extruder is a smart idea.
If it is that way, than I’d expect the second input to be a bypass. It probably would need it’s own powersource.
Bypass is a good thought. That’s something the Palette is lacking which would be a welcome feature. Good call on the power source as well.
@@ygk3d Not sure if you could just plug a power supply in the second port of the single ams and power the buffer/cutter kind of reversed to x1/p1.
I think you are 100% correct. Very good analysis.
If I’m not I’d at least like to see something like this in the future. Thanks for watching!
I propose that the dual inputs have a different purpose - 1 from an AMS and 1 from your regular spool holder. This effectively let's you have 5 colors at your disposal OR let's you easily choose between color and monochrome prints. Time will tell.
The most annoying part of the loud noise produced by Bambu Lab printers is the one that can go far beyond the room where the printers are sitting. It's conduction sound, due to vibrations transmitted to furnitures then walls, ground, ceilings. An out-of-phase noise canceling speaker would mitigate only the aerial sound which is the less irritating and already doesn't pass thick doors.
When is the announcement? I thought it was going to be this month some time. Also, maybe it has _four_ inputs 2x2 and two are behind in the picture???
September 20th! It’s definitely possible that such a device could have 4 inputs.
Great mock up work, bambu should hire you!
Thank you very much!
I believe it’s a bed slinger with CMYK color multiplexer
would love to see it be compatable with klipper
The colors look like white, cyan, magenta and yellow. You could mix any type of color with the base CMY system. I think it is melting and mixing the filaments togehter in a special printhead.
Thats my bet as well
Interesting idea with multiplexer but the amount of wasted filament for every swap would be massive to the point of I cant see anyone wanting to use it. I'm leaning more towards a new low cost entry level printer, bed slinger Bambu Lab A1.
I originally thought this as well but the more that I think about it a complete redesign to a bed slinger seems counter intuitive almost going backwards if it is a new smaller printer I think it will be a downsized core xy something the size of a ender 3 perhaps with multicolor functionality out of the box but the multiplexer idea wouldn't surprise me either we will have to wait and see
Wow really cool to make a prototype of your theory! This probably does make the most sense. Slightly disappointing because I was hoping it would reduce the filament poop in some way. Great work!
Thank you!
Wow, great work.
Thank you!
Really nice guessing!! Interesting!!
Thank you!
I'm inclined to agree with you. Some additional points: Usage of the AMS also encourage use of Bambulab filament (with those very nice rfids and ready-working profiles). That actually will help drive costs down for everyone. Once you decide to upgrade to a new printer, if you already have an AMS, logic would kinda lead you to a Bambulab printer. It's an excellent lure.
But seriously Bambulab, gimme an IDEX already. I want more multi-material capability. Especially for flexibles!
Great points!
I like your enthusiasm but after I consider the possibility of CMYK I think it will be a color mixing unit. Take a look at the color mixing tech in the Quadfusion CMYK Extruder. Feels like it has similar DNA. Despite the business oprtinutiy I don't think they want to support all other prints.
That's exactly what I was thinking and hoping for honestly. You can literally use the same four colors of filament with different concentrations to make millions of colors.
New hot end with millions of colours A1 printer in September, mix colours like painters. 4 colours mixed
Colors are for noobs.
I want to combine flexible and non-flexible engineering filaments with a water-soluble support.
If you want pretty colors that's what paint is for.
Sounds like you might need a Prusa XL… or wait for a Bambu IDEX. I think color is important to a lot of hobbyists. They want to make pretty things without the labor or skill required for painting.
Interesting thoughts! I personally think that instead of 2 AMS's, there will be 4 AMS's option. Instead of two ptfe tubes you've demonstrated, I'd say there will be 2x2 ptfe tubes... makes much more sense to me, as the want you to buy 4 AMS's and not restricted to 2 ;-)
Perhaps… my thought is that there still needs to be some advantage to buying an X1C or P1P so they might water down the hardware a bit for 3rd party printers by not allowing as many connections.
I hope that's the case! And great vid too!
Thank you!
I really enjoy that everyone think you need a microphone and speaker for noice canceling. But what about noice? Noice are generated by moving moving air and the sound is based on the frequency. If the Printer is moving, it will be vibrate a lot. If you design for example a counter part that weights the same as the print head and is moving in the opposite direction, that will eliminate a lot of vibration on the system and should result in a more silent printer... But that is not the only way to canceling vibration without microphone and without speakers ;-)
You definizly missed the second most critical part of bambulabs AMS: The filament-"buffer". It contains a slider with a magnet inside, a spring and a hall-effect-sensor. If the extruder pulls filament, but the feeder of the AMS do not deliver filament nor not fast enough, the slider moves compressing the spring. Due to the hall-effect sensor, the electronic always know the position of the slider and can accelerate, decellerate, start, stof or even reverse the AMS-feeder (and also turn on the motor on the spool holders to rewind filament). A quite simple and elegant solution to synchronise the AMS feeder and the extruder (as even a slight different tension leads to slighty different effective diameter of the gears, so you can not simply put to feeders in series). If you adjust it acordingly, the buffer should even be able to detect unload (any retraction >3mm would obviously be an unload).
Actually, it would be quite simple (if you have time and skills) to do your own, better replacement for the AMS in my opinion:
Build a filament-"buffer", Place it as near as possible to the direct extruder, connected with a bowden to it. directly before the "buffer" place a hub (one output, 4 inputs. A motor to select is not needed imho. But a filament sensor (C) right before every input.
A spoolholder with classic motor to rewind. A feeder following (maybe with filament sensor (A) entryside (to autoload - like on the mk3s if you insert filament). Sort of switch to guide the filament to a cutter, to automaticly cut the filament tip, or to the hub. A filament sensor in front of the switch (B).
The process of switching between filaments: Filament is unloaded. The AMS-feeder pulls it out, untill the filament sensor B is reached. Now the switch turns. The AMS-feeder pushes the filament to the cutter, wich cuts the tip of the filament (wich falls down into a bin). The AMS-Feeder retracts the filament untill its in front of the switch (sensed by filament sensor B). Swich is turned and the filament is pushed until filament sensor C is reached (directly in front of the hub).
The nice thing: As soon as the filament is unloaded and has left the hub, the next filament can be loaded, so the rewinding, cutting and preparing for the next load can be done while the printer already has loaded the next filament and prints.
Actually you could do this quite modular: A spoolholder (maxbe even a filament drybox) with filament sensor A, feeder, filamentsensor B, a switch, filament cutter, bin (can be much smaler as on the Bambulabs printers, as just the filament tip is cut off) and an output were the filament goes to the hub. In different sizes - for 1,2, 5 and 10kg spools. As the feeder takes care of pulling filament from the roll and pushing it through everything up to zhe "buffer" (and while loading of course up to the extruder). As soon as the extruder took the filament, the extruder just need to pull the filament through the short bowden from the buffer and move the slider. everything else is taken care by the Spool-Feeder.
Electricly: the "buffer" provides just a signal with position of the slider on multiple outputs in parallel. So every single "spool unit" could get the information to synchronise the feeder in the spool-unit and the extruder while printing. Signal is simply ignored while unloading, loading, cutting or inactive. Also every spool unit has an input for the filamentsensor "C" (in front of the hub. Every Spool unit has an input for "load" (unload is detected by slider movement). It has outputs for "left the hub" (so next filament can be loaded) and "ready to go" /if the freshly cut filament is in front of the hub again).
For a 2-material AMS there is no electrical conection to the printer needed. If filament is unloaded, obviously the other is to be loaded. so both spool-units could comunicate directly with each other. For more than 2 materials, a communication between the printer and the AMS is needed (or a seperate controler with SD-slot an a copy of the gcode, just to know the order of Toolchange commands T...).
Actually, for the spool-unit I would recommend ramps based controler boards, as they have everything on board (exept for the double-H-bridge for the Motor). You even could controll the heater if you want a drybox and can connect a i2c humidity sensor. Also they collect dust anyway, and for the feeder its no problem to use a allegro driver.
The "buffer" needs just a smal Arduino.
Actually seperate Spool-units seem the most flexible for me. If you have f.e. 8 spool-units and a print with 8 materials, you use them all with one printer. Or you have 4 prints with two materials each - you can use 2 each. Or you have 8 printers and use one for each. Each printer you want to use with this system just needs a "buffer" and a hub with enough inputs (but you could cascade multiple hubs).
Just some ideas to make a universal AMS by yourself.
I want a bamboo in the next 6 months. Should I wait and see if there is a newer model of bamboo next year, or just go ahead and purchase as soon as I have saved the money?
I would wait until at least the 20th of September :)
Spot On!
Bro this makes much more sense than other theories around. I would be surprised if the device isn't exactly this.
We’ll see! The A1 theory seems to be the favorite right now… personally, I’d like to see this more.
This gets a like for the fact you custom modeled a prop device and had the forethought to put enough holes and whatnot to get believable b roll out of it.
Lol thanks for noticing 😂
@@ygk3d that's just a lot of work for b roll. I have to appreciate small touches like that.
Awesome video! Great information… the camera movements are distracting though…
Thanks! Noted 👍
This was my guess also. Your mock up really sells it though. We'll all find out soon enough.
I wish I could believe this, it would be great and a good gesture on Bambu's part. But they tend to act like a proprietary / vertical business, and making things for other printers is not in line with what I've seen them do. I agree with other comments: I think "for everyone" means they're going to make something cheaper, at least cheaper than their current products. I'm pretty sure whatever it is will be Bambu specific. It would be great if it wasn't, but I'm not confident that's in line with how they run their business.
That “good gesture” could also make them a lot of money… but you’re probably right.
“What you’ve seen them do”? They’re such a new company, you can’t base that off anything yet.
Companies are not in the business in projecting good gestures to competitors. If I were a major stock holder I would want Bambu to build the worlds best, easiest to use and fastest consumer 3D Printer. Basically turn these once complicated, cantankerous machines into everyday appliance and crush the competition.
In business it’s about market dominance until you get too big but in the meantime it’s full on kick butt and cash the checks.
@@c0mputer They already take your STL data and have permission to sell it, have permission to sell your lIDAR and camera data, and make it so you can't even make mods for it, I've seen tons of people complaining about posts being removed on Facebook groups about mods or even complaints.
Exactly, they provide an unparalleled excellent customer experience which is what sets them apart from almost every other 3D printing company. It would be foolish to release a product where they can't control every aspect of that experience. Total customer service nightmare trying to help people get a Bambu quality print experience from an Ender 3.
You could be right on the money, we will know for sure about 6hrs, tick tick tick
I wouldn't think so unless they plan on killing the Bambulab and focus on the AMS unit but your guess seems very plausible.
Bambu Lab just released a new video showcasin the a completely new printer
I saw that! Not what I was expecting but still looks pretty cool :)
@@ygk3d for sure
I think this is spot on Well done!
Thank you!
@@ygk3d I agree. The 4 mounting bolts clearly show that it's designed to be mounted to anything. These people in your chat saying "for all" is referring to the price are making inane statements. Affordability is relative.
I'd bet money that you are correct. Bambu is poised to sell these unit + the AMSs required to use them to tens of not hundreds of thousands.
Edit: I was wrong
@@condorman6293 haha thanks for the vote of confidence! Most people seem to be saying it will be a low cost bed slinger with multi-colour capabilities… personally, I’d like to see the multiplexer more, but they stand to make a ton of money either way.
@@ygk3d I think the people saying it's the A1 are reading patents thinking they are good sources of information rather than the very commonly misunderstood or falsely read in to things they are.
I mean, just staring at the part in the teaser shows its not a print head. They wouldn't arbitrarily show a non-printhead part for a teaser.
Bambu - Teases a photo of multiple colors entering a filament cutter "Color for all!"
Speculators - "Clearly it's a new bed slinger printer".
I don't get it.
Edit: I was wrong
@@condorman6293 lol 😂
All I want is for Bambu Lab to release a 400 x 400 x 400 version of the P1S & X1 Carbon.
I’d take one of those too!
Same
I think the only way active noise cancelling can work in a printer is via a microphone array not a single mic as the coming from the printer varies from position inside the printer.
A single mic would not match the frequency information of a stepper motor on the other side of the enclosure.
Mhhh… yeah, may not be as straightforward as I was thinking.
@@ygk3d Hey so I have been thinking on the teaser images. I was thinking of a traditional means of noise cancellation using mics and speakers. But generally the noise created by a 3D printer is vibration. So it could be an accelerometer attached to a rumble motor that vibrates 180 degrees out of phase.
@@matthewroe496 if Bambu doesn’t make it, you should 😅
@@ygk3d lol. It is loosely related to something I am working on. but I think I will start playing around with this idea as well for my biqu b1.
The only thing is... I feel like the community want's to get away from excessive purging. I feel like they should work on a new tool head first, with multiple nozzles or something.
Whoa whoa whoa! Hold up there. You are just going to skim over that butterfly print?! Show us how you made that please. 🥰
It’s made with HueForge. I have a video about it here: czcams.com/video/sSohX9ATUk4/video.htmlsi=oD54Md6grcPViWWC
@@ygk3d Thank you very much! I've actually purchased the software, now I just have to learn how to use it. 😂
Using a 'bed slinger' to go up and down to press the cutting lever is going to be crazy sllllooooowww. On something like an ender 5 is would be way quicker if it's mounted on the side. But I'd rather hope there will be a more direct connection between the AMS unit and the filament feeder.
Yeah, that could be an issue. If it would be possible to mount it on the X or Y axis that would save a lot of time.
“For everyone” means cheaper…they’ll keep new stuff for themselves
Maybe… their P1P is already pretty economical but perhaps they’ll introduce a new machine at the Ender 3 price point.
It's their A1 Printer, an entry level printer, most likely a bed slinger to bring down the cost. There's no chance they will feed their competition by making a universal AMS adapter for them... But then agian, there are millions of non Bambu printers out there, they might see a niche and might surprise all of us with a universal AMS adapter.
A cheap bedslinger will have competition from the dozens of other cheap bedslingers nobody really wants. The P1P is just a better choice. Meanwhile this device would be completely unique, and sell a bunch of AMS's which also currently has no real competition in the market.
I know which I would pick to release.
odd that they add another cloud controlled device, I thought they were going to do a fully off line printer, to try and capture more of the market. I know more than a few people that dont want a Bambu simply because it is so cloud connected.
But being able to add in a cheaper/easier AMS/MMU setup would be nice, Like it was stated in the video, the complexity of some of the DIY solutions have kept people from doing them.
I hope your idea comes true 😊
Me too 😅
Great thoughts, I think you may be correct :)
Thanks! We shall see..
Its a extruder with 4 ptfe inputs for 4 colors. For everyone with bambu Printer only.
That's a lot of work for a 'Hypothetical' model rendering, but THANK YOU
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Haha yes, I definitely got carried away on this one. Cheers. Thanks for subscribing.
Hypothetical or skeptical? Great dive. Thanks for your videos.
Thanks!
So what was announced?
Not this 🥲. A small entry-level bed slinger called the A1 Mini.
Ahhhhhhhhh maybe I'm thinking to much into it, but might be why Microcenter recently started carrying just the AMS as well. That or people were just asking for it.
Also, if it's not what you speculated then Bambu needs to hire you asap!
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oh my..... Microcenter is carrying everything Bambu now👀👀 @@ygk3d
I think your speculation is pretty much correct.
We shall see…
I think the word you're looking for is 'speculation'. NBR's breakdown is more likely. Bamboo has no multi-color solution for less than $1000. 'Everyone' likely means it'll be affordable and more basic than their prior printers. every printer they've made has their own parts/slicer/service - you really think they would invite all the problems that come w/ achieving reliable compatibility w/ tolerances/timings/voltages/models of other manufacturers' printers? This is their tesla model 3 - can't do that until you streamline manufacturing and have some market
I’m starting to think that will be the case… a low cost multi-color capable bed slinger. It’s too bad though.. I think there would be a big market for a universally compatible multi-color solution that is better then the existing solutions.
It is a new printer called the Bambu Labs A1...
I think there will be multiple announcements that day. Based on what other sources have reported a new printer seems likely. If it’s not a multiplexer, I hope there will someday be a similar solution that allows the AMS to be used on third party printers.
i believe they will release a bed slinger, like apple they dont want to share
I don't know if I agree completly but, man what a great video! I just cant see Bambu making something for their competitors to have a leg up... Maybe I'm wrong though. I see an afordable bed slinger to be anounced along side this hardware on the 20th, but I guess we'll see.....I honestly dont even se them making this compatable with any of their current printers, why would they push customers away from their AMS thats is surely higher priced than this new part...
Thank you! Will be interesting to see how it all shakes out on the 20th.
@@ygk3d 🤷🏼♂️ as expected…. Kind of🤷🏼♂️
What if its multiplexer/extruder onstead of the entire hotend.
That may be possible and could potentially simplify some things.
I don't think is going to be something for any 3d printer because if people start having problems because if the printer doesn't work with the "multiplexer" they are going to blame bambu product and that would be a bad move. I think is a new machine with some kind of ams system or ams system to mix filaments and I hope is that because mixing 4 colors instead of just changing between colors is going to be so cool and you can make any color with just 4 filaments
Couldn’t you just mount it to the end of the x axis rather than the top of the z…? I guess it would be moving up and down which may not be great for wear but idk.
My thought is that it could be mounted in different locations depending on the printer. An X or Y axis mount would be better if it’s possible.
I don't think this is it. This is opposite of the Bambu philosophy, they want things that just work. I don't think they want to launch a product that works on their competition.
I hope it is the YCMK mixer. Print any color. If it's an extruder, the filament path could be short enough to enable continuously varying color
Interesting. What’s your take on the “for everyone” part?
@@ygk3d I think it's referring to the cost.
@@ygk3dthey like to keep their products in a ecosystem just like apple so I also agree they won’t make it comparable for everyone.
I second this. I think Bambu Lab wants to bring people into their ecosystem, not open it up to other manufacturers. By being able to use one of their headlining features on other printers, they would significantly cut into their own printer sales.
I also think the "for everyone" means a relatively low price (maybe bed slinger), but not "every printer".
Though I hope I'm wrong, I'd love to use the AMS with my non-Bambu printers!
I think it means compatible with all Bambu Printers (their definition of everything) @@ygk3d
Nice video - it’s good, but I think there are a few things that don’t check out in your analysis.
Would you mind if I did a response video, speculating on the accuracy of your speculation? I’d just use a 3-5 screenshots and remind everyone to check out this video 😊
Hey Nathan. I enjoy the videos on your channel. I know you have theories on this as well. Your A1 theory is probably more plausible, although I think the multiplexer theory has merits too. You’re welcome to make a response video and use as much footage from this video as you like. Looking forward to seeing it.
@@ygk3d He's totally right though, the filament cutter must be in the printhead and not in the multiplexer, otherwise what happens to all the filament stuck in the ptfe tube between the printhead and multiplexer ? This would be very tricky to get right, and the filament waste would be gigantic.
All i want is a idex that can both take 4 AMS lol..thats all in asking for
An IDEX printer with AMS compatibilaty for each toolhead would be awesome, although I would prefer a toolchanger printer from Bamboo.
I can see K1 and K1 Max owners going mad for AMS compatibility, I have vowed to never buy a Creality product ever again having been stung by them on many occasions over the years, I wouldn't mind having a QIDI Max 3 with AMS compatibility though as I want to be able to print some of the high temp engineering filaments that are available these days.
Until the competition can present an AMS equivalent Bambu will continue to dominate. Anker teased one but it has yet to materialize as far as I’m aware. Creality and Qidi either don’t think it’s important or are working on something behind the scenes. In the race to catch up to Bambu they clearly only had time to focus on the printer, and not the multi-material system.
@@ygk3d I think the other manufacturers that were planning to develop or are developing an AMS type product will definitely have to up their game to compete with this product, hell! Creality even fixed a fault in their K1 which to my knowledge is the first time they have done that, usually they just move on to the next Creality printer and leave the community to fix their shortcomings but with Bamboo Lab taking so much market share they were forced to change their policy which is a winner for the consumer!
I think most people expect 3 things: a larger printer even just in the Z axis (so as to maintain the existing plates), an IDEX system therefore double extruder and silent fans ... I think it is the most logical move .
I think people are thinking too far into this. My theory is that they are just releasing a budget printer, but a good one for the price, that has some sort of color switcher like that on it. Probably $300, maybe even $400. By "everyone" they prolly just mean now ppl who can't afford even p1p can get a little printer that can do multi color prints.
u can see the bubble sticking out on the front
I hope it wil be a color mixing unit. 4 colors go in and get mixed to the color you print
That would be the ultimate. If anyone can do it it would be Bambu.
Was my thinking as well. Like the pallet but better. And no need for purge.
That means you could print a Warhammer 40k mini of something like a tyranid in full color , and while that would be sick , i can't imagine the amount of waste it would produce
that's my assumption too. filaments in the pic are in CMYK color set. we'll see
Nein, nein, nein, nicht in dieser zeitlinie!!
I like the way you are thinking, but IMO it would be a waste of money to install on a less capable printer. My hopes for the vague image are unlimited color printing ability with a printer head fed by the 3 primary colors and white. Think that's right. Combine all 3 to get black in artistic and all 3 combined in light creates white...Get astronomical and artistic confused sometimes...
Noise cancelling doesn't work that way. If you designed noise cancelling system in that manner, you'd only succeed in making it louder. The reason for this is that the sound has to match both phase and vector direction. This is why you can have noise cancelling headphones, and you can have room at just acoustics at the speaker source... But you can't have a non source or non canceling set up easily. The physics makes it almost impossible