This will be a full stop landing!
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- Fokker 100 landing at la Havana on a heavy thunderstorm and reduced visibility. many other aircraft landed with the same weather conditions before and after this landing.
Fokker 100 aterrizando en la Habana con lluvia fuerte y visibilidad reducida. Vista de cabina. varios aviones aterrizaron en las mismas condiciones antes y despues de este aterrizaje.
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This is sooo familiar. Several years ago in a private plane, I faced that same looking bank of angry clouds inbound to Minneapolis. Asked ATC how it looked and I’ll never forget the reply, “looks good here, I’m in a concrete brick building on the ground the question is, how does it look to you seven miles out at 5000 feet.” Pause....I chickened out and asked for radar vectors to the alternate. All’s well that ends well.
When you watch this and see all that could go wrong you realize it is completely amazing there aren’t more aviation accidents than there are.
A Wizzair flight was rerouted to an airport some 250 km away from the original destination. Apparently they did not have enough fuel to wait for thirty minutes.
Oh; airplanes have been designed for over a hundred years or more now based on reviewing lessons learned and continuous improvement. The FAA enforces this.
@@muhfuggus Airplanes are NOT designed to fly into Thunderstorms. Thats why professional pilots, fly around them. And don’t attempt to land with one on the airport.
I had the same experience landing at Heathrow in a 757 in the early 90's. As soon as we had all three on the ground, it blanked out to zero visibility with massive flashes of lightening. We couldn't see the exit and had to proceed very slowly to the very end of the runway before exiting. The tower was not happy, but still put all traffic on hold for 20mins!
If I had to say one thing about this as a student pilot it would be that your skill at handling the aircraft in this situation is amazing. Your decision making on the other hand is not.
@Buckwheat Hikes he had visual. He was in the right to try. Seems you need some real cockpit time.
@Buckwheat Hikeslmao dude get some help
Are you a professional pilot ? army ? civilian ?
The only thing that would have me worried is having to make a go-around
@@realdeathpony dude I’m an ex-naval aviator and fly 747’s now. That was pure stupidity. Think you might want to learn a thing or two about flying before you open your mouth.
When you see this in front of you a few things should come into your mind immediately. The first one is possible wind shear, going from headwind into a vertical shear (pushing you down) and then a tailwind. Second is that you will probably have a flooded runway, so possible skidding and little breaking action. Thirdly, there is no option for a go around unless you want to fly straight into a thunder storm which is never a good idea. In other words, this is the time that you simply take the correct option and that is to wait until this thunderstorm passes by. Thunderstorms are fast moving storms, so in about 5 tot 10 min it will have passed and you can make you approach. No need to play hero and hope all will go well. I still remember the Delta flight 191 at Dallas in 1985, which also tried to land in a thunderstorm, killed 137 people.
Delaying the landing was the call I would have made, and did make in watching the video. Yes, you can make it down but the risk of flying into wind shear simply isn’t worth a 10-minute delay.
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A VOIR la scène en vidéo et a écouter la tour de control ont peut sentir une légère crainte dans le LANGAGE de la tour, go arond aurais été plus SECURITAIRE POUR LES PASSAGE.
Really enjoyed your analysis. Thank for your comments
Spot on! Some people think the job is easy. Days like this you earn you wage.
Don't mess with thunderstorms. They usually blow over quickly. Land at an alternate and wait. Or, stay clear until it's safe. Live to tell about it.
not many alternates in cuba hehe
Lightning and thunder no probs. Now Microbursts and down drafts. Yes I agree alternative airport however. Some company policies are land or turn back there's no go around so maybe that's why the pilot landed. Silly policy in my opinion.
No alternate there though
@@ivanv754 Wrong!
@@ivanv754 im surprized they have airports TBHMN
The did their homework alright. Applied RAIN-X to the windscreens before flight. Visibility excellent
If you take that plane to Auto Zone, they’ll install your wipers for free.
😂👍
"Looks like i picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue". 😆😆😆
Johnny , What do you make of this?
Hal Turner “well I can make a broach or a pterodactyl”😂
RockTheSix
Or doing meth
???
Titanic SeaTurtle, it’s from the movie Airplane 😂
anyone else notice just how effective those wipers are at the end? ;)
+Josh Sedgwick pretty sure they forgot to attached the rubber blades
+Josh Sedgwick I had to drive my car in similar conditions on highway. It's scary as shit if your wipers don't do anything anymore because of the heavy rain and you can't see any further than 10 meters ahead… really horrible driving conditions :D.
+geetarwanabe LOL
+Josh Sedgwick They don't even touch the windshield :D
+Josh Sedgwick They sould use the nanowipers :)
Me encanta ver el verdor y la lluvia combinada con un viaje ,en este caso, el vuelo de una aeronave debe ser muy relajante saber que estás en buenas manos a pesar de las condiciones del clima. Saludos desde Monterrey México
Great video. Very heavy rain and a wet runway can be a problem. Crew did a professional piece of work.
I encountered similar conditions on my last flight, 35 years ago. I landed in Amarillo TX. The ground crew took the airplane to the nearest hangar, without fueling it, and without asking. We were stuck until the next day. My last flight was also the most exciting. This was all VFR. The airfield went IMC right after we landed.
Anyone else catch the lightning strike at 2:57?
yes
Rainx works great. I always have it applied on my windshield.
Why don't they install cockpit cameras on all planes. Aside from the black boxes this would be of great benefit in the event of a crash.
@@mattsprojects2047 how are they heavy and expensive ? They just need to store 10 minutes of footage prior to crash
Totally man, you don't even need rocket science, just stick a dashcam on it.
@Guillermo Cortés on a lighter note, We just need cameras to have a recording, let the black box do all the rest of stuff as it does...
Black boxes are in the back of planes and they are encased in aluminium, then an inch-thick layer of insulation that can withstand high temperatures, and finally, an outer casing of titanium or stainless steel. But if you were to install a camera it would be in the front and it would have no protection so if there was a crash it would be damaged or destroyed.
The technology exists as well as the means to protect the data in a crash. The insurmountable issue is the Airlines Pilots Association, one of the most powerful unions in the world, is dead set against them. They have fought, successfully, every attempt to make them required on all commercial aircraft.
I recommend Bosch wipers.
AHHAHHAHH joke is good )
Gene Cage 90
joke year!!!)))
No kidding, I was gonna recommend some wiper blades myself 😂
Rainex.;))
I'm sure the tension was much more intense than the video shows. I would have been puckered tight if it were me, that's for sure. Also, really cool to see that perspective!
Wow. It seemed like they were almost racing with the storm to see who could get to the runway first, but I guess it only looked that way. To a layperson and infrequent airline passenger, it looks like an impressive landing in less than ideal conditions.
It was a landing in less than ideal conditions. Unless he had an emergency or was way low on fuel he should have waited for the storm to pass. Google the Delta Crash at Dallas back in the 80s. They had very similar conditions and no one lived.
Excelente aproximación Cap y no le cuento el Aterrizaje muy bueno Bravo
I would recommend loading a lot of holding fuel and not pushing your luck. Thunder storms KILL. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Air_Lines_Flight_191
That's how you end up with your very own episode of air crash investigation. ......
Fantastic video
Red on radar, Thunderstorm warning, Lighting, Storm Clouds, Winds ..... hummm!
And bad wipers
Thats cubans pilots bro......
Can't see myself flying into that...
@@EdExTechur I can't either, but im also not a pilot!
This must be a “ Cubanna Air “ flight ?
On Friday, 02August1985 a Lockheed L-1011 Tristar crashed at Dallas/Ft. Worth International Airport killing 134 passengers and crew. One person on the ground was also killed. The National Transportation Safety Board's post accident findings are as follows:
"PROBABLE CAUSE: "The flight crew's decision to initiate and continue the approach into a cumulonimbus cloud which they observed to contain visible lightning; the lack of specific guidelines, procedures and training for avoiding and escaping from low-level windshear; and the lack of definitive, real-time windshear hazard information. This resulted in the aircraft's encounter at low altitude with a microburst-induced, severe windshear from a rapidly developing thunderstorm located on the final approach course."
Of course, you are entitled to your own opinion as to the wisdom of this particular flight crews actions shown in this video.
Yeah, I thought the same thing, unless he was fuel critical, I wouldn't have continued the approach into a thunderstorm with lightning, wind, heavy rain and extremely low visibility. You're just asking for it.
Good thing that all modern aircraft and airports are equipped with predictive windshear systems and weather radars...thanks largely due to the aforementioned crash.
If that were the case, this is a definite example of poor flight planning. Part 121 / 91fly to your destination and have enough to divert under normal power settings and land with 45 mins reserve under IFR. Its all about being legal.
To top that, the guy is busy recording! :l
USNVA11 That's negative... Microburst on final
Incredible...wow, that was risky.
Gracias x compartir ese momento
Seguramente no habían vientos significativos que es lo peligroso en esos casos, la lluvia solo resta un poco de visibilidad. Si estuviéramos ante vientos de gran intensidad o peligrosos para el aterrizaje la torre le hubiese sugerido aterrizar en Varadero o el propio piloto lo hubiera pedido. Para mí, un aterrizage sin grandes complicaciones.
0:50 "I have runway insight!"
1:20 "I don't have it now"
Yet no "missed approach" recognition. Would have failed their checkride immediately
I hate planes
abigail defreitas
Fuck off then
Can we appreciate how accurately Top Gun on NES replicated these sounds with the limits of 8 bit programming?
Não há como negar...deve causar muito medo. Mesmo sendo conduzido por excelentes pilotos.
Excellent 💯👍👏
Good Landing.
Feather touch landing
Good job on the landing. I have had a few landings like that with a wall of water half way down the runway. Exciting but I would of rather not have had the experience.
+steveo1kinevo . Why not take the safer option. Abort the approach rather than flying yourself into a corner which is very difficult to get out of? From the radar screen it looks like they have plenty of options to turn away, join a holding and come back in when the thunder storm has passed.
+jeff jj "based on experience" is one of the common mistakes we learn to avoid during every human factors course during ATPL training. Based on experience, he should have taken into account the possibility of having to go around. Cleaning up an airplane, in the middle of a downdraft is not safe.
***** 2 words. Missed Approach
Dog runs into the runway... unwanted runway incursion... lights go out... ATC instructs a go around... what do you do? You press TOGA and fly right into the downdraft of that mature stage CB with a 40 knot head to tail windshear.
Not a good idea. I just spoke to a 757 captain about this video and he told me landing there was a stupid decision. It's these decisions that we train to NOT make. Don't take risks. This captain likely reviewed what he did later on a beer at the bar, realizing how stupid it was.
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I don't need to know why he chose to land. That's why there are destination alternates and that's why he has a final reserve and contingency fuel. Please don't become a pilot.
*****
You're probably a GA pilot and mechanic. Doubt you're MCC trained. If you were, you'd understand. As an airline pilot, you'd be trained to think further than 2nm ahead of your nose. I'm not lecturing. The fact that this approach was irresponsible, does not affect you and your SEP.
perfect landing...undoubtedly
Gorgeous footage.
UFF Buena aproximación, excelente aterrizaje!
"Hello CZcams, armchair captain, with you, approximately 2ft from computer, staying online, requesting pause flight, armchair captain"
Otacatapetl Coo anda mi jenre de huandacareo un saludi desde brisport ill atn l s n,
Beautiful landing by professional pilots
That was so smooth. Pilots are amazing!
Amazing not, they were stupid!!!
Пилоты красавцы !
Уважение вам ребята !..
Great educational videos. I’ve spent 5,000 hours & 30,000,000 miles as a Flight Test Engineer for Douglas Aircraft, on the DC8, DC-9-10, 20, 30, 40 & 50. Part of a 2 man team on the DC-9stall warning system developement & fix for the final SSRS.
Did 4 to 5000 stalls on the series 10 & series 30 developing the system for FAA certification. Developing the angle of attack vane stall trip point & adjustment for different accelerations to stall.
Wonderful name for an aircraft !
Do you think the Captain wanted to get that Fokker safely on the ground ? lol
sunsagleaming - Ya, I know, I know ! If I was a pilot, I'd love to fly these planes. Then I could use the Fokker word all the time in conversation, and still never get into trouble.
DroidTech - A Fokker 70 ? That's a real big Fokker, isn't it ? ( Sorry, I can't resist joking. )
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F. BERTAGNE - Oh, that's really bad ! I'll now have to stop telling my crummy Fokker jokes ...........
Nooo these fokkers were flying meshershmits
Wonderful work...made it look easy.
CONGRATS Guys...Good Finish...Wish You All the Best..
Good luck, reinforces BAD DECISIONS!!
Agreed....
Have the runway in sight? Some of it...
Nice landing in that weather. Usually rainy approaches can be a little rough
You know what’s awesome about typical convective weather? Unless it’s associated with a front... it will probably pass in 15 minutes. I’ve flown Cessnas in conditions like this... simply waiting for the storm to pass the airport before landing in VFR conditions and calm winds.
Thank god you didn't go missed!
Wow, imagine if he had to go around!
Exactly
That would have sucked.
Absolutely terrifying.....they were extremely lucky down draft didn’t get them.
excelente pouso!!!!! parabéns
That wiper was effective!
At 1:18 all I could think of was Drlta 191 and the infamous..."There's lightning coming outta that one."
When I dispatch my flights I would hope the captains use the alt or the hold fuel I gave them on the release....
I was leaving DFW that day on the south end of the airport in full sun and no wind, 191 went down on the north end just as I exited the airport. I could not believe it when the radio said that there was a crash. crazy weather
@@jamesbruce I was at home, when I received a phone call. A family member of a good friend said that, they had been involved in a major auto accident. Later was sitting in the ICU Waiting Room at the Hospital, watching the televised coverage of the aftermath of Delta 191. Serendipitous?
Awesome....
You guys do have Nerves of Steel....
Way to go....
Meanwhile back in the cabin:
"Look, such nice weather! I told it'd be a wonderful vacation!"
"But they said heavy rain."
"Pah, come on! When have they ever been right?"
(ten secons from touchdown)
"OK, A little bit of rain perh... dammit WTF?!"
Nice work
Excellents pilotes !!! Very nice landing ! 👍😎
Nice video!
Excelente gracias
"Uh, tower, that's gonna be a hard no."
Hey! Great name.
That went 0-100 real quick. Don't mind all the comment. Easy to judge when you are NOT the Pilot in command (PIC). Great landing! Glad you are all safe!
Easy to judge, yeah. Do NOT land with a Thunderstorm right on the airport. Basic knowledge. But, happy for the passengers, that they got lucky
amazing how in one moment approach lights disappeared after a few bolts... backup generators started quickly...
Wow gd amazing wonderful I like it bro😍😗😙
FK 100, I used to fly those. I would have landed too. The bases are high, the timing was good although right on the edge and a go around in VMC would be no problem at all. That is if you don't excute the published miss like the controllers would want you to. At the threshold there was no wind reported by the tower, I heard no GPWS wind shear caution, and the VIS was very good on touchdown...no problem. The worst turbulence that I have encountered was at cruise altitude in clear air. As to the wipers, I learned many years ago in ground school that the wiper switch in a Boeing lifts the wipers a quarter inch off the windshield, makes them flop back and forth at high speed, and makes a bunch of noise.
He was flying right into a thunderstorm. Nothing could be dumber.
i think that was emergency landing so where theyre supposed to land when theyre about to run out fuel?
There's a reason CB's appear red on the WX radar. It's to deter idiots like you from flying into them... Doesn't seem to work though...
Mark Healy relax bro...watch your heart..^^,
No. He was landing on the leading edge of a thunderstorm. Big difference. It wasn't like he was core punching it.
Hey! Let's see if we can find a microburst! Yes, most of the time you'll get away with landing in a thunder storm, but sometimes you won't, and then you'll be called an incompetent idiot.
Thank You!
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@@mariomueller8365 still trying to deflect from that one botched landing, right?
Exactly. So many people seem to be ignoring that fact in this video. For anyone who knows aviation and weather, this was an idiotic landing unless they had no other choice but to force it (ex: no viable alternate, minimal fuel, emergency, etc... likely not the case here).
Jesus
So many youtube Pilots and captains , and most of them the most heavy plane flown its was a twin cessna during a sunny day.
Then we read so many "stupid" coments as they never did something worst on they life.
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ppuuffff buenisimo..:!!!! excelente maniobra..!!!!
Cuban made wipers...mmm ingenious,very effective 👌 😎
Wow!
Absolutely amazing!
Este piloto tem muito talento
Eu acho que sim ! tem ! A gente se ve.
Nice job! Well done!
All fun and games until "Windshear, windshear , windshear..."
Btw... who is filming and who is the pilot monitoring...?
Thanks for showing what should be avoided. Risky decision could just as easily ended in a microburst. Better to hold 15-20 min an land in the clear or divert than to risk your aircraft. Nobody cares if they are on time if you crash.
William Haley I traveled the country in my work over 30 years, and i coukd never understand how they can justify landing in very bad conditions. They should know theit passengers would prefer rerouting or waiting.
In my years i was on perhaps a dozen flights like this where people were screaming in fear, and sometimes started clapping upon successful landing. Don’t think the clapping supports the risk taking, quite the opposite. If they clap ypon landing then your pilots irresponsibly and dangerously pushed the envelope and terrified many passengers. Wake up Pilots! Push back on corporate pressure to “get there.” Grow a pair!!.
1:17 lightning flash took out the landing lights, emergency restore at 1:43. Anyone agree?
Ben McDonnell i
Si.
Probably
No, just the approach angle and the heavy rain blocking the view
All of the lights suddenly went out and they suddenly came back on some time later. Lightning causing that seems highly likely. The glide slope trough that was basically unchanged.
I have been in similar situations twice, one in the jungle of South America and another in Miami. In South America the storm front was moving very fast, the end of the runway where we touched down was dry, but it was pouring buckets at the other end. In Miami the storm came from the right side, the runway was dry when we landed and the storm hit us while taxing to the gate. 5 more minutes and we would have had to land elsewhere.
They were taking an unnecessary risk. Thunderstorm (windshear, downdraft, microbursts, lighting), heavy rain (flooded runway, poor braking), no possibility of a go-around, and lost sight of the airport after reporting it in sight. It's not worth saving a few minutes instead of waiting for an isolated thunderstorm to move away.
if you go around you will have 0 chance to land, you will have no visibility. And will have to land at different airport, and nobody wants that to happen
Not to mention filming while flying.
Kudos to the pilots for landing in that weather but couldn’t they have waited for the weather clear up a bit?
It's a plane not a bus
Yes, they could stop for a while in the air and wait for the sunny weather
luis V. - actually, they are required to carry enough fuel to hold away from the airport and then go to an alternate if the weather is still bad. Lightning on the field as they land and all around during approach. Extremely sketchy decision making.
@@Searey07 yeih, "go around".
@@WARLOCGaming I thought it was a train we were all watching:) The question meant if they couldn't go to a holding pattern and land after slightly better weather?
That was a great landing. Good work !
Nice landing. Fly safely & thinks for sharing the video.
Felicitaciónes capitán.
When that lightning bolt struck, my aircraft would have 180'd without me even having to think about it.
Nothing to do with the lightning - the vertical currents in storm clouds can very easily overwhelm the power of the aircraft. So stay away.
When some people have a chans to hurt others, they go for it. That why it is so easy to find people to work as guards at concentration camps...
when pilots would always divert for that kind of showers, 50% of the flights in Vietnam would be cancelled in the storm season.
Yup!
when i saw that wall of storm with the end of a runway poking out I would said nope nope nope... not happening.
Id have liked a go around for 10 min, proly by then the small storm would have moved away. You don't know about ground turbulence or down draft until its too late.
You never know, when thunderstorms are in the area. Had my landing in Amarillo been unsuccessful, I would have been in serious trouble!
WOW ! CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER WHAT A HALF STOP LANDING WOULD LOOK LIKE.
Great job landing this plane in this weather 👍. However shitty Windscreen wipers though, have them changed asap.
Give that man a cookie.
they should have diverted. Never gamble with lives
Aterrizaje Perfecto 👌🏻
Nice.-Anwar,Bangladesh
As a missionary in PNG 60 yrs ago Cessnas and Beechcraft would do this without runway lights. Many never came out alive.
Wonder why the wipers were not switched on at short finals
The windshield wipers on most airliners aren't that great. I rarely use them until after landing. Unless the rainfall is very heavy. In flight the speed of the aircraft will cause the airflow to remove most of the rain water and visibility isn't a problem.
Imagine having to perform a go around
Успели!!!! Щётки надо поменять;)
I'll never forget our landing at Havana, nothing dramatic about the landing at all. Yet once we were on the ground the entire cabin started applauding like it was a miracle 😂
That's a cultural thing with Latin Americans and Southern Europeans.
I don't think I would choose to land in a thunderstorm like that. Too many hazards. Strong down drafts, microburst, possible lightning strike, and hail. Not a good choice overall.
I think you are professional pilot ,sir ??
I learned the hard way, that sometimes you do not have a choice. I was on a VFR flight, had rain all around me, and lightning was common. Fortunately, there was little turbulence. But, the weather really became nasty after we touched down.
The landing I made in Amarillo was on the same weekend that a L1011 crashed due to wind shear.
No one is asking for your choice.
"This will be a full stop landing!" ... I would hope so, all landings are.. lol (I know what you meant tho)
Not all landings are full stop landings.
Once off the runway, the "landing" is over. You could therefore land, slow down to taxi speed and exit the runway without stopping.
Matthew McKee bravo buena feina
Full stop landing: land with no intention of becoming airborne again.
The alternative is a touch and go.
Greased it..GG
Wowww! Awesome.
Qué chulada es ser piloto de aviones.
One of the first things I teach my student pilots is to never fly into a thunderstorm, not to mention being within 20 NM of one. I'll use this video as a teaching tool....... never try landing into an airport with lightning strikes and rain. Microburst anyone?
Pilot forgot to switch ON windahield wiper during approached.
No need for windshield wiper on approach, they are for ground use only. The fast airspeeds already gets rid of water droplets
Sweet, thanks!
Forgot your wipers buddy! Nevertheless well handled 👍