Boeing 747 Breaks Up Immediately After Takeoff Over New York (With Real Audio)

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  • čas přidán 8. 06. 2024
  • A Boeing 747 operating as TWA Flight 800 takes off from New York JFK Airport on a routine flight to Paris, France. However, 12 minutes after liftoff, the aircraft explodes in mid-air. 9 years earlier, another Boeing 747 broke up in mid-air and crashed into the Ocean. Find out what really happened.
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    Chapters
    0:00 Intro
    0:18 Pre-flight Preparation
    1:00 Flight Crew
    1:48 Technical Problems
    2:50 Departure
    3:17 Real Audio Communications
    4:20 Mid-Air Explosion
    6:10 ATC Recordings
    7:05 Investigation
    9:28 B747 Prepares for Flight 295
    11:17 Departure from Taiwan
    11:42 Fire on Board (Real Audio)
    13:28 CVR Failure
    13:50 ATC Communications
    15:14 Aircraft on Fire
    15:45 Crash
    16:24 Investigation
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Komentáře • 2,4K

  • @LBCORP1960
    @LBCORP1960 Před 10 měsíci +566

    There were 16 high school French club students from central Pennsylvania who were on TWA 800 to visit France. Their parents took a video of them at JFK airport just before boarding the plane. They were all so excited to go. I think of them every time I see the story of TWA 800.😢

    • @donnageorge2761
      @donnageorge2761 Před 10 měsíci +50

      That is the first thing I ever think of too, young people with their whole life ahead of them how horrible for everybody that had loved ones on this plane

    • @paulwoodford1984
      @paulwoodford1984 Před 9 měsíci +22

      final destination 1 😂

    • @craigfinnegan8534
      @craigfinnegan8534 Před 9 měsíci +23

      I still think of those 16 kids, too. For me it's a minor coincidence that I sat next to a high school exchange student from PA on my way to study at the University of Cape Town in 1984. The adventurous idealism is so strong at moments like that.
      I also think of a young recent hire among the flight attendants on board TWA 800. A male friend of hers later recounted how excited she was to have been given the Paris route so soon. It's one of those haunting stories of a forbidden paradise.

    • @paulwoodford1984
      @paulwoodford1984 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Oh well, we are alive. that’s the main thing @@craigfinnegan8534

    • @nobull9541
      @nobull9541 Před 9 měsíci +46

      Why are you laughing at a tragedy?

  • @kenb3552
    @kenb3552 Před 8 měsíci +276

    My neighbor, who I had known since my childhood, was the head steward onboard TWA 800 when it exploded. Just a few days before, maybe a week, I had seen him mowing his lawn and we had waved to each other. You never know when.

    • @brettstreutker9603
      @brettstreutker9603 Před měsícem +6

      Ken....you NEVER know when....thank you for your comment.....

    • @AlexandreG
      @AlexandreG Před měsícem

      20 bucks says that man doesn't exist and you're just attention thirsty

    • @kenb3552
      @kenb3552 Před měsícem +13

      @@AlexandreG 20 bucks says you're just an @hole. But I should make a correction - he was not the head steward on that particular flight. He was a head steward for TWA, but on that flight he was catching a freebee to Paris. His body was also one of the first, if not the first, to be recovered and identified. You can look it up. His initials were WD.

    • @AlexandreG
      @AlexandreG Před měsícem

      @@kenb3552 oh WD, that one, I know him too! Huge family friend, used to gather around the a fire eating grilled pork and telling beautiful tales. Good times

    • @kenb3552
      @kenb3552 Před měsícem

      @@AlexandreG BTW - Just Google the crash to find articles from the evening and following day that it happened, You can easily find who I am talking about. His picture was featured in many of the initial articles. But of course, you're just too lazy of an @hole to actually put that much effort into it. Skid mark.

  • @Is308enough
    @Is308enough Před 9 měsíci +240

    I’ll always remember TWA flight 800. The day it went down, my father was told he had terminal cancer and he’d be lucky to live another year. Exactly 1 year to the day, he passed away at 57yrs from the cancer that killed him. That afternoon my brother and I were watching the tv, and the family/friends of those lost from flight 800 were throwing roses into the ocean. So the pain of losing my father is associated with those that lost loved ones on that flight. Life is precious. And I pray for those that suddenly lost loved ones in August 1997.

    • @karlacuello-uo7tw
      @karlacuello-uo7tw Před 2 měsíci +4

      I’m so sorry 😞

    • @Is308enough
      @Is308enough Před 2 měsíci +8

      @@karlacuello-uo7tw Thank you. I have been blessed with many wonderful memories of him. Thank you again for your kindness.

    • @mattneal5257
      @mattneal5257 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Sorry about your father. May he Rest In Peace

    • @letapearson2043
      @letapearson2043 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Hello, I understand you miss your father and I can tell how much you loved him! God bless you!❤️

    • @growing.flowers
      @growing.flowers Před 2 měsíci +2

      I’m so sorry ☹️

  • @nancykaufmann3993
    @nancykaufmann3993 Před 10 měsíci +222

    I was in Ireland when TWA 800 happened and was totally freaked out, as we had just taken off from JFK days before and I was assuming a terrorist attack. Even worse, I later met a man whose daughter had been on the plane as part of the class trip from Montoursville PA. His son saw it on the news and asked his Dad what flight his sister had been on. The Dad didn’t remember and went to check her flight info. One can only imagine how his heart dropped when he saw it - TWA 800.

    • @SizedPrune20010
      @SizedPrune20010 Před 9 měsíci +10

      no.. that is so depressing.. god.. :(

    • @jyellowhammer
      @jyellowhammer Před 8 měsíci +7

      It was an attack without question. Just covered up.

    • @shch1673
      @shch1673 Před 8 měsíci +4

      I was packing to fly on TWA the next morning when I saw it on the news. I was a little freaked out.

    • @StevieSeagal
      @StevieSeagal Před 7 měsíci +10

      @@jyellowhammer Bingo! Multiple witnesses off long island and jersey interviews on the news, a streaking light shot up from the surface of the water and they watched that light go all the way up and end in a massive explosion and fireball. The fireball went up and then careened back down and plummeted until landing in the ocean and disappearing. These witnesses lived on different parts of the island, did not know each other, and each description of what they saw, was exactly the same. Welp, after a couple days, those interviews were no longer shown and all evidence of those interviews are lost.
      We were in my dorm room when they did the testimonies and showed the spark in the fuel tank video and all of us recalled the interviews of the witnesses. All of us were laughing at the screen during the deposition and demonstration saying "Look they're fkin lying man!!!" It was the day we were all RP'd, and we woke up to how evil the gov really is, the day that changed all of our lives. Godspeed to all the victims of this event.
      P.S. I saw you are becoming a pilot, congrats man. I would have been a helicopter pilot, I was 20 hours deep and flew the R44 like a pro, until I got a DUI and the FAA grounded me, ended up losing everything due to that poor choice. One can only hope some youngsters read this and never, ever drink and drive like I did.

    • @julosx
      @julosx Před 6 měsíci

      @@StevieSeagal 100 % bullshit.

  • @roberthoffhines5419
    @roberthoffhines5419 Před 10 měsíci +825

    the "God bless him" from Virgin 009 haunts me. The flight decks from those two other flights were the fit to know there was absolutely no hope.

    • @donnix1192
      @donnix1192 Před 10 měsíci +30

      It really is chilling comment from the Captain of Stinger B507- an Eastwind Air 737-a lot those people died horrific deaths. The complete opposite of Al Haynes “want to be particular and make it a runway” line.

    • @flyguyry1
      @flyguyry1 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@donnix1192fill me in on Al haynes line

    • @enigmawyoming5201
      @enigmawyoming5201 Před 10 měsíci +21

      Imagine experiencing that while in flight and control of your own aircraft. I wonder if the thought ever crossed their minds “Are we next?” Some rogue country shooting down passenger planes? Or an EMP anomaly? Or….. ???

    • @martindunstan8043
      @martindunstan8043 Před 10 měsíci +19

      ​@@enigmawyoming5201it must go through their minds I think, it would mine, how frightening.

    • @enigmawyoming5201
      @enigmawyoming5201 Před 10 měsíci +17

      @@martindunstan8043 - Yeah, it’s not like “This plane I just saw disintegrate is just like my plane I’m responsible for. Things like a passenger plane blowing up in the sky happens all the time. No big deal”.

  • @norte7549
    @norte7549 Před 10 měsíci +157

    there’s a beautiful memorial for TWA 800 at the TWA museum in kansas city. there’s a glass slab etched with a poem, a model of a 747 suspended in clouds and a recovered piece of debris from one of the plane’s cargo bins. the museum is definitely worth a visit, even just for that alone

    • @PostUp_Time
      @PostUp_Time Před 3 měsíci +2

      kansas city? the plane left from NYC. HOW INSULTING TO THE DECEASED

    • @glennhoddle10
      @glennhoddle10 Před 2 měsíci +7

      @@PostUp_Time The one in Kansas City is just a small memorial within the TWA museum. The actual large dedicated TWA Flight 800 Memorial is located at Smith’s Point Beach at Suffolk County’s Smith Point County Park, Fire Island, Central Long Island in New York.

    • @richanddebshawaiiadventure4340
      @richanddebshawaiiadventure4340 Před 2 měsíci

      what kind of morbid ass stupid shit is that? I was at the beach when it went down - we don't carry on like that - have a museum in your bullshit state dedicated to meth heads and stealing gas - k?

    • @LLCNet21
      @LLCNet21 Před měsícem +4

      It is not insulting. Once you are gone it doesn’t matter if they put the memorial on the moon.

    • @joedufour8188
      @joedufour8188 Před 14 dny

      @@PostUp_Time Maybe dial down the fake outrage about things you know nothing about.

  • @annieseaside
    @annieseaside Před 20 dny +9

    I was meant to be on this flight and last minute changed to the next day. My family thought I was on this and the relief upon finding me alive and mine at my good fortune had us all sobbing. My Guardian Angel or something helped. May they all RIP

  • @Kahluhagirl71
    @Kahluhagirl71 Před 9 měsíci +205

    I will never forget this tragedy. My neighbors, the Benjamin's, were on that flight. They were going to see their child. What sorrow our little PA town had. On going prayers to all the families and the Benjamin family.

    • @RD-zj6vc
      @RD-zj6vc Před 9 měsíci +13

      Mr. Benjamin was my Computer teacher at Masterman the year or two before this.

    • @gonnahavemesomefun
      @gonnahavemesomefun Před 9 měsíci +8

      Just reading that I really felt the emotion "what sorrow our little PA down had" -awful to read. I am so sorry.

    • @christiecraig1144
      @christiecraig1144 Před 9 měsíci +3

      😭😭😭

    • @Kahluhagirl71
      @Kahluhagirl71 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@RD-zj6vc 😔

    • @julosx
      @julosx Před 6 měsíci +8

      Among the dead was also Marcel Dadi, an expert guitar player pretty well known back then. He was someone who really mattered to me, one of his records was one of my childhood favourites. He was traveling with the Guitar & Keyboards magazine chief editor. I still remember the competely black front page of the October '96 number. Inside, a small picture of Dadi and the chief editor (can't remember his name) and a few words. R.I.P.

  • @Liz-cmc313
    @Liz-cmc313 Před 10 měsíci +336

    RIP to all those lives. I can't imagine the horror they felt.

    • @billykulim5202
      @billykulim5202 Před 10 měsíci +4

      the error in aircraft are so frequent and become habits for pilot to turn off those false alarm, which is cause those kind of incident, should the pilot trust those alarm and send someone to check the cargo bay to put out the fire , they probably still have high chance of survival

    • @paulwoodford1984
      @paulwoodford1984 Před 9 měsíci +2

      it was definitely a bomb on board

    • @billykulim5202
      @billykulim5202 Před 9 měsíci +9

      @@paulwoodford1984not true,,, it was lithium battery on a computer in cargo that cause fire

    • @democracyforall
      @democracyforall Před 9 měsíci +2

      What is really stupid about some Engineering designs is that even in a car you could see how much feul you had in 1996, so how did an aircraft of that size did not have a same kind of system like the car has to show the pilot how much petrol he had????

    • @stoneneils
      @stoneneils Před 2 měsíci +2

      I can, which is why I stopped flying for anything other than family weddings/funerals. I'm not dying for a vacation or business deal. My bud as a intl salesman..his plane dropped suddenly once due to major turbulence one flight injuring many..emergency landing..he got ptsd, quit and never worked in the same capacity again.

  • @botman234langer6
    @botman234langer6 Před 10 měsíci +709

    This has got to be one of the most horrific ways to die couldn't imagine the horror rip to the 230 people who lost their lives ❤

    • @bowlchamps37
      @bowlchamps37 Před 10 měsíci +20

      It was pretty quick, you lose consciousness really fast.

    • @ligmasack9038
      @ligmasack9038 Před 10 měsíci +43

      @@bowlchamps37 not at only 16,000ft.

    • @Sebastian-xl7vd
      @Sebastian-xl7vd Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@ligmasack9038 at what altidude do you do?

    • @normantor
      @normantor Před 10 měsíci +28

      I always find the ValueJet crash in the Everglades to be the most horrific of all of them.

    • @cchris874
      @cchris874 Před 10 měsíci +9

      @@ligmasack9038 For most people I am guessing c20K feet, but it was said the JAL Flight 123 pilots were not on oxygen even higher than that, and were still conscious .

  • @debragarvin8766
    @debragarvin8766 Před 5 měsíci +14

    Several people reported seeing a missile heading towards that plane,over 100 people reported the same thing and when they reconstructed the plane, the pieces where the explosion happened were bent inward,not outward like they would have been if the explosion was on the inside of the plane.The people that reconstructed the plane were ordered to keep silent.I saw a video on this with the actual plane.If i find it again,I will post it in these comments.

    • @MrViki60
      @MrViki60 Před 13 dny +1

      Yeah sure

    • @hoppy6663
      @hoppy6663 Před 9 dny

      A Pittsburgh radio station talked about that for a long time !

    • @Site-88
      @Site-88 Před 2 dny

      No. There was no missile, the center fuel tank exploded due to the A/C wires caused sparks,

  • @mysterymayhem7020
    @mysterymayhem7020 Před 10 měsíci +108

    my uncle was one of the last people to place an item on that aircraft. He worked for TWA and was responsible for cargo placement for emergencies. He placed a heart on board for a transplant overseas. His hair turned white within 1 week because of this and the interviews from the FBI.

    • @JJ-bo6nc
      @JJ-bo6nc Před 10 měsíci +15

      Poor man:( I wonder too if heart recipient survived..

    • @Sniperboy5551
      @Sniperboy5551 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @JJ-bo6nc Well, I’d be careful assuming they were a recipient…

    • @tueregomez2851
      @tueregomez2851 Před 9 měsíci +2

      ​@@Sniperboy5551huh???

    • @horacerumpole7629
      @horacerumpole7629 Před 9 měsíci +6

      That's the one hit by a missle

    • @GJM866
      @GJM866 Před 9 měsíci

      BS you troll....not buyin it. What was his name so we can check your claim?

  • @margeebechyne8642
    @margeebechyne8642 Před 10 měsíci +438

    Wow! I think in the first crash, what happened with the cockpit separating and the fire with the
    passengers, death must have happened very quickly. But the second had so much time for all, including the passengers, to be absolutely terrifed. So horrible. RIP to all those souls. Thank you for this excellent presentation.

    • @stellakowalski1
      @stellakowalski1 Před 10 měsíci +58

      Yes! Exactly. The people on South African Airlines 295 were alive as the fire took hold and steadily got worse. The plane was a 747-200 Combi, 2/3rds passengers, 1/3 cargo. The plane was nicknamed The Heldeberg. The crew tried to put it out but it was too far advanced. All this time the passengers in the cabin were conscious, but increasingly incapacitated by the toxic smoke that filled the cabin. At one point they altogether rushed to the front of the cabin in an attempt to get as far away from the fire as possible. I can’t imagine the terror they felt, knowing they were not going to get out alive.

    • @vintvarner16
      @vintvarner16 Před 10 měsíci +43

      I'm not so sure passengers would have had a very violent whip lash at the first explosion that literally decapitated people internally by hitting their heads against the seats in front of them. 2 major fires and 72% of passengers being sucked out also, they found 202 possible remains out of the 230 passengers
      183 died instantly due to being pulled out of plane or the violent whiplash
      15 passengers they are not sure if immediately fatal
      4 we're not immediately fatal (all in same section
      Remaining 28, not enough remains to determine
      No matter what still totally horrible

    • @andrew_koala2974
      @andrew_koala2974 Před 10 měsíci

      It is the Flight Deck
      It ceased being a CockPit when WoMen became commercial Pilots
      Otherwise - it would be a PussyPit
      So get the point and educate yourself to a higher level

    • @YAWSSSSSS
      @YAWSSSSSS Před 10 měsíci +22

      I saw a CNN article from 1997 that stated that according to autopsies majority of passengers were gone before the plane hit the water but as many as 40+ were possibly conscious before the plane hit the ocean.

    • @meTimetraveler
      @meTimetraveler Před 10 měsíci

      the jet was hit with 5 surface to air missiles, they have over 80 sworn avadavats from people on the ground including 2x E6's flying in a helicopter if anyone would know what a SAM would look like they would. On your streaming TV search for TWA FLIGHT 800.......FOR THE TRUTH.

  • @jrosalia
    @jrosalia Před 10 měsíci +28

    I live 2 miles up the road from the beach near where the crash was. There is a beautiful memorial with flags from every country passengers were from

  • @linsees
    @linsees Před 9 měsíci +16

    I remember this so well. I was in Puerto Rico visiting my family during this crash. JFK is one of the airports I always left from as I live in the New York City area. I was just a little girl, ten years old. I think this was the first time I was ever confronted with an actual plane crash and the possibility of a plane crashing. I was flying home the next day, and I was terrified to get on that plane. Planes were second nature to me, I had flown my entire life multiple times a year. I felt so much empathy for those families. I remember hearing the story of the dad who lost his wife and two little girls. It reminded me of my dad staying behind as I usually traveled with my mother and sister. This one definitely changed me and even though I was ten, I was truly understanding the fragility of life.

  • @lolabellacat299
    @lolabellacat299 Před 10 měsíci +48

    In my opinion you have some of the best content on You tube...everything you want portrayed in absolutely realistic audio and video..by far my favourite ..and rip to all those that died so horribly ..absolutely tragic and sad

  • @gabrielle-AV-n-PFloyd
    @gabrielle-AV-n-PFloyd Před 10 měsíci +175

    My father who was a United Airlines pilot for 34 years thought the military accidentally shot it down..he was distrustful of our government anyway so was not surprised he thought that when I asked his opinion.
    Miss you Papa! Miss talking to you about all things aviation!.
    James Hykes UAL Captain (from 1960-1994)

    • @alci720
      @alci720 Před 10 měsíci +54

      A local NYC newspaper that was named The Village Voice had a detailed investigative report on the strong possibilities that it was accidentally shot down by a Naval ship due to Naval exercises occurring at the same time in the Atlantic. I remember TWA 800 and I still have those newspaper articles. (I live in NYC).

    • @dfuher968
      @dfuher968 Před 10 měsíci +19

      Im sorry for the loss of ur father. I too have lost my father and miss him dearly.
      However, the shootdown theory has been long disproven. There simply were no ships, planes or anything else anywhere near enough to shoot a missile. It is believed, that those, who thought, they saw a missile, actually saw the "headless" burning plane ascending, then stalling and dropping to the ocean. And believe me, even if the NTSB and the FAA would cover for the US military like that, we in the rest of the world would not. And there were several other nationalities onboard, whose agencies also investigated.

    • @BrakRulesAll
      @BrakRulesAll Před 10 měsíci +62

      @@dfuher968 Disproven? Nonsense. It's plain as day when you examine ALL of the facts and eyewitness accounts.

    • @jayphilipwilliamsaviation
      @jayphilipwilliamsaviation Před 10 měsíci +12

      @@BrakRulesAll Nothing to see here, Mr. Collins. Move along.

    • @flipnap2112
      @flipnap2112 Před 10 měsíci

      @@dfuher968 thats ridiculous. who "disproved" it. the government? pff ha ha.. they indeed had a sub with trident missiles onboard and they were running training missions. Do you really think the government wouldn't try to hide that? if you do, then you dont know the thousands of horrific thing our own government has done. They WANT you to think this is a crazy conspiracy theory. they accidentally shot the plane down and dozens of witnesses saw the trident heading toward the plane. They were all interviewed the night it happened but then they were never played again.

  • @janibeg3247
    @janibeg3247 Před 10 měsíci +31

    i well remember that tragedy. A group of American French language students were on their way to Paris on TWA flight 800. My wife made that trip years earlier as a student.

    • @godoftheinterwebz
      @godoftheinterwebz Před 4 měsíci

      I remember that
      Some of the kids had a premonition and got off the flight, avoiding the crash. But Death hunted them down and killed them in horrific ways annyway

    • @daniellageorgiou-norman2244
      @daniellageorgiou-norman2244 Před 2 měsíci

      @@godoftheinterwebzfinal destination

    • @-bubby9633
      @-bubby9633 Před měsícem

      ​@@godoftheinterwebznow you know what final destination was based on

    • @godoftheinterwebz
      @godoftheinterwebz Před měsícem

      @@-bubby9633 This and the Key bridge

  • @JohnDoe-pd9sl
    @JohnDoe-pd9sl Před 10 měsíci +46

    I remember this vividly, was at an FAA event when it happened. A LOT of people saw a surface to air streak hit this plane. The NTSB is pretty creative though.

    • @someotherdude
      @someotherdude Před 9 měsíci +10

      That is true, and some were 'credible' witnesses- specifically, one was a pilot and one was a commercial ship captain.

    • @TK-mf5in
      @TK-mf5in Před 9 měsíci

      Yeah I heard that Bigfoot fired a stinger from Atlantis and took it down. Deep state is covering it up because of something super deep-statey

    • @DFYLA72
      @DFYLA72 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Someone comes out stating this the govt has to arrest them proving it true, or call them a liar to maintain the lie.

    • @jessicahitchens6926
      @jessicahitchens6926 Před 5 měsíci +3

      I love their crappy animation for the gullible public to consume.

    • @kholmar
      @kholmar Před 19 dny +1

      also, they leave out the fact that the Navy was doing Factory Acceptance Tests on what was then, the new Aegis system and part of that test was to include an environment with simulated hostile, actual friendly, actual neutral, and actual civilian air traffic.
      part of the test was correctly targeting the simulated hostile (drone) aircraft while in the middle of this environment.
      such testing was immediately moved to the South Pacific with all traffic being simulated after this.
      my favorite part was the Admiral who went on CNN to say that the Aegis Missile Cruiser (I forget the name of it) was "out of radar range"
      which is VERY interesting considering how the Aegis system works by tying together the radars of ALL friendly craft that are integrated into the system regardless of range, which allows a unit to fire a weapon at a target that it cannot ITSELF "see" on radar or other equipment.
      things that make you go ... hmmm
      I get that it's hard to admit a mistake like this but ffs, be adults and own your shit

  • @nicholasbloom2414
    @nicholasbloom2414 Před 8 měsíci +12

    My father was part of the recovery efforts of the Heldeberg off of Maurituis as a medic. It was widely believed in South Africa at the time that the accident was due to an explosive placed on board. He says the search efforts left a permanent scar on his memory owing to the debris that they located containing children's clothes and toys.

  • @mindyschocolate
    @mindyschocolate Před 10 měsíci +206

    Ahhhh, all those people, and the person waiting for their transplant… that is awful. Out of all the videos on this channel I have seen, the way this plane broke apart and how everyone died had to have been the most frightening thing ever. Imagine being a passenger and seeing the cockpit blown away and there is NOTHING you can do to save yourself, same with the guys free falling in the cockpit. Horrific.

    • @darrettp
      @darrettp Před 9 měsíci +9

      Imagine knowing two of the people who died on that plane.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před 9 měsíci +2

      I'd actually prefer that when it's my time vs years of suffering.

    • @israelgynosanya3129
      @israelgynosanya3129 Před 9 měsíci +12

      @@johniii8147no you wont. Just say anything for the sake of it.

    • @mikeydrookie351
      @mikeydrookie351 Před 9 měsíci +6

      i would think that the pressure was so great upon separation the people remaining at the very least lost consciousness.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@israelgynosanya3129 No I really mean it. Watched to much suffering at this point in life. I do feel bad for the affected, but when it's my time I want it over quick. This all happened very quickly.

  • @ronaryel6445
    @ronaryel6445 Před 10 měsíci +154

    As I recall, in the late 1990s and early 2000s fueling procedures changed so that as fuel emptied from a tank, nitrogen gas replaced it, preventing fires from igniting, and fire sensors have been improved in cargo holds, along with regulations concerning the transport of Lithium ion batteries, which have an inherently higher risk of overheating and explosion and burn fiercely.

    • @ImperrfectStranger
      @ImperrfectStranger Před 10 měsíci +14

      Other changes included those made to fuel system electrical circuit breaker design, fuel pump design, fuel pump activation logic, flight deck warnings and flight crew/ maintenance procedures.

    • @scottfranco1962
      @scottfranco1962 Před 10 měsíci +18

      There was a long fight about that. The military used nitrogen to put inert atmosphere in their fuel tanks, but of course their need was greater. They get shot at.
      The airline industry resisted the fill mandate, claiming it would cost too much. The winner ended up being a system that captured spent gases from the engine. Its like your car exhaust, it can't burn twice. This saved having to carry tanks of nitrogen.
      Cargo holds are a different thing. They figured out that fires will put themselves out if you seal the compartment from air, it basically consumes the oxygen and dies. The counter proof for this was the airline that went down because it was carrying oxygen generators, since it made its own oxygen and burned though the cargo hold. It was a very stupid move to carry that cargo, and it was misidentified.

    • @klocknerdeutz
      @klocknerdeutz Před 10 měsíci +4

      (Most) airliners now also have a nitrogen generation system, to counter the fumes in an empty(ing) tank.

    • @ImperrfectStranger
      @ImperrfectStranger Před 10 měsíci

      @@scottfranco1962 I'm trying to remember what they did with the excess oxygen after they extracted the nitrogen from the bleed air. I recall that was a hazard in itself

    • @LLS710
      @LLS710 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@scottfranco1962 You're awesome. I love when people who have great knowledge go into detail.

  • @jyellowhammer
    @jyellowhammer Před 8 měsíci +20

    I was on the TWA flight number just before this one. Coming back from Europe. Hit me like a ton of bricks. I'm now training to be an airline pilot.

    • @rongendron8705
      @rongendron8705 Před 7 měsíci +2

      That was 27 years ago & you're now training to be an airline pilot! Were you a child then? I worked the
      night shift that night in Nassau Cty. (law enforcement) & was delayed getting to work, by the emergency
      vehicles heading to the nearest land to the crash! I also used to load 747's at JFK with food, in the 70's
      & no one is going to tell me that it wasn't a bomb or missile! R.I.P.

    • @jyellowhammer
      @jyellowhammer Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@rongendron8705 I had just graduated high school. Taught School for 15 years and got fed up and started flying.

  • @gregmarino5248
    @gregmarino5248 Před 9 měsíci +24

    Many people on Long Island saw something that hit the aircraft that day. The Navy was doing maneuvers out in the ocean that day

    • @thephantomeagle2
      @thephantomeagle2 Před 3 měsíci +8

      I remember hearing that they saw a streak of light head right towards it and hit it

    • @Klaatu2Too
      @Klaatu2Too Před měsícem +2

      @@thephantomeagle2 Over two hundred people saw something rising from the ground that hit the plane. One of those witnesses was a military pilot in the air who saw two explosions, a bright white explosion followed a few seconds later by a yellowish/orange explosion. A bright white explosion is what you would see when an anti-aircraft missile explodes. A yellowish/orange explosion is what you would see from a fuel explosion.

    • @thephantomeagle2
      @thephantomeagle2 Před měsícem +2

      @@Klaatu2Too On top of that if it had been an internal explosion then the entire plane would've been in pieces. They had once side, I want to say port that had a giant hole in it and the rest was blasted away from that point. The fuselage on that side was in large pieces where the other side was all in small pieces many of which were either too small or missing and you saw large gaps on the far side from the hole, where the side with the hole was almost complete.

  • @northernsoutherngirl
    @northernsoutherngirl Před 10 měsíci +87

    Both of these stories were so very painful to watch.😪 I'm already squeamish about flying. So I can't imagine being on either of those flights & realizing how scared those people had to have been.😢R.I.P. to all the lives lost on both flights.

    • @gillianbrookwell1678
      @gillianbrookwell1678 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Yes, It's put me off ever flying again.

    • @lordgod9958
      @lordgod9958 Před 8 měsíci +4

      It seems horrible but statistically it's way safer than driving. If you collide at 70+mph on a busy highway or lose traction due to ice or water the result probably would still be quite lethal

    • @techspeak5801
      @techspeak5801 Před 6 měsíci +3

      ​@gillianbrookwell1678 highly unlikely you will ever be involved in such an incident. These ones serve to make flying safer for all of us.

  • @ibnewton8951
    @ibnewton8951 Před 10 měsíci +41

    My wife and I and some friends flew from Johannesburg to Swaziland in our plane for the weekend when the Helderberg went down. We were stunned at the news and it cast a gloomy pall on the weekend. Many people staying at the hotel got together in groups and we discussed the horrific incident. It was such a tragedy. RIP to all.
    The black boxes were recovered from the ocean floor at a depth of about 12000 feet or so.

    • @LLS710
      @LLS710 Před 10 měsíci

      newton, super interesting to imagine these horrific conversations ya'll had!

    • @grantzax
      @grantzax Před 10 měsíci +6

      @newton
      As a kid I flew a number of times on Helderberg between Mauritius & Durban during 1983 & 1985 (4 x per yer during school holidays). I recall boarding Helderberg many times flying out South Africa. I would usually be seated in the upper deck.
      It's chilling to think I could have been on that flight.
      Not for a solitary moment do I believe the cause of fire was computers.
      The govt was importing all manner of weapons and explosives by any means possible during the arms embargo against the then SA govt.
      The airline was govt owned & the CAA (investigative ppl) were also govt controlled.

    • @ManiyaVinas
      @ManiyaVinas Před 9 měsíci

      Servers them right for the Apartheid bs

    • @ionychel
      @ionychel Před 3 měsíci +1

      Only the cockpit voice recorder was found, the flight data recorder was never recovered. So only one of the so-called black boxes were recovered.

  • @Paco_Gaepedores
    @Paco_Gaepedores Před 2 měsíci +5

    May all their souls rest in peace 🙏 🕊️ ❤️
    Love from Mumbai, India 🇮🇳 ❤️

  • @silvereaglehere
    @silvereaglehere Před 10 měsíci +34

    The flight channel does such a great job putting these video's together. Thanks so much for your hard work!!

    • @Fromseatosee
      @Fromseatosee Před 8 měsíci

      I don't believe the flight Channel put this video together did they?

    • @Conster14237
      @Conster14237 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Fromseatosee yea they do

    • @Conster14237
      @Conster14237 Před 6 měsíci

      They use a game called Xplane 11

  • @jokerchrist2545
    @jokerchrist2545 Před 10 měsíci +149

    I've seen many NTSB animations and have read up on many air accidents during my flight training. TWA 800 is one of the most horrific. It's easy to be disconnected and not really understand the gravity of what's happening in this video, but the recreation at 5:00 grounds you immediately. I don't know if it's the poor quality or the realization that what appears to be a small little rc plane on the screen is a real jumbo jet with hundreds on board.
    I hope I never have to see anything like that in my career.

    • @dfuher968
      @dfuher968 Před 10 měsíci +11

      Its a very extensively covered accident, and Ive seen the animation several times b4. Every single time, all I can think is, plz, plz, plz, let them have lost consciousness quickly.

    • @donnix1192
      @donnix1192 Před 10 měsíci +16

      @@dfuher968”God bless them” from the Virgin Air pilot, I hope they lost consciousness quick but many were alive to know they were staring at death with the front of the plane gone from their sight.

    • @adriennekliger3005
      @adriennekliger3005 Před 10 měsíci +9

      As a frequent domestic flyer, and sometimes overseas traveler, I’m always aware in the back of my mind of what could happen at any moment while flying. It’s the terror of watching your own death happening in real time that freaks me out and sometimes makes me wonder why I continue to climb on board of these “flying machines” when any small mistake made by well-intentioned humans could be the end of us. Still, I know that flying is safer than driving. It’s just that the type of death is so much more terrifying (imo) in an air crash vs a car accident. Peace be upon all those who have died this way.

    • @LLS710
      @LLS710 Před 10 měsíci +2

      LOL, did you really have to use GROUNDS you immediately to describe what happened to them, not us?

    • @miaflyer2376
      @miaflyer2376 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@adriennekliger3005 - Yes indeed, but there's no need to freak out about flying if you were to live, work, and play at a nice place where you don't have to fly away from.

  • @ZatarainLeRice
    @ZatarainLeRice Před 10 měsíci +31

    I've been wanting you to do this one for a long time! Marcel Dadi was on this flight. Great guitar player. He was returning home to France from receiving an award in Nashville.

    • @Polychrome1201
      @Polychrome1201 Před 10 měsíci +2

      These are reruns. The first one was posted 10 months ago. Looks like you waited longer than you needed to. 🙃

    • @godoftheinterwebz
      @godoftheinterwebz Před 4 měsíci

      He didn't even get to enjoy his honor for one day

    • @agtrst
      @agtrst Před 3 měsíci +1

      Marcel attended the annual Chet Atkins Appreciation Society gathering in Nashville (which occurs every July). I started attending the year after. It was a somber event, being the first gathering after the accident. I met a few of his family members who flew to Nashville from France. They wanted to meet everyone who he was hanging out with just before that tragic flight. Everyone celebrated his life with music that weekend.

    • @edgarcayce2.02
      @edgarcayce2.02 Před 20 dny +1

      Speaking of great musicians, the legendary sax player Wayne Shorter lost his wife _and_ his niece, who were both on TWA 800 travelling to visit him in Italy (where he was obviously gigging).

  • @daveskimmer
    @daveskimmer Před 10 měsíci +20

    I lived in Hampton Bays at the time, and the trucks taking the wreckage would pass my house.
    Those were some very tough days for the whole community.

    • @joysmith687
      @joysmith687 Před 10 měsíci +3

      I was watching them pull it out of the water. Took me a long time to get back on a plane.

  • @patrickdebellefeuille4196
    @patrickdebellefeuille4196 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Amazing that all these guys with all that experience and all these sensors and gages and yet still these catastrophic situations still happen.

  • @stlram5
    @stlram5 Před 10 měsíci +87

    I was a flight attendant for TWA when this happened. One of the worst nights of my life, and many of my brothers and sisters in the industry. When something like this happens, we're all family even if you're with another airline. It hurts just as much.
    We all have our own ideas of what really happened, and I'm going to keep my version to myself. Speculate all you want, I'm not going to divulge.
    Safe to say July 17 still stings even after 27 years. R.I.P. to my brothers and sisters aboard Flight 800.

    • @anthroposmetron4475
      @anthroposmetron4475 Před 10 měsíci +8

      Fine words. I bet you've got some stories to tell from that period.

    • @stlram5
      @stlram5 Před 10 měsíci +8

      @@anthroposmetron4475 It was definitely a different time in the airline industry. I hear about the differences today from my friends who still fly.

    • @LLS710
      @LLS710 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Papa, papa, PLEASE tel us what you think happened! (I must add that if I was as close to retirement in my profession as I am but worked in your field instead, THAT would've sent me into retirement a wee bit early).

    • @ej7692
      @ej7692 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Well said. I will never forget the non-rev flight I flew so often. 😔

    • @Killerbee67
      @Killerbee67 Před 9 měsíci

      @stiram5 my very first flight was TWA 800. My parents where from France and we went there to visit. I was about 7 years old. The Flight Attendants where so good to me it was the best memory. I later became a Flight Attendant myself. I remember exactly where I was when flight 800 went down.. RIP to all the crew and passengers.

  • @lindabarrett5631
    @lindabarrett5631 Před 10 měsíci +28

    Horrific. I can't imagine the terror of those passengers.

    • @cchris874
      @cchris874 Před 10 měsíci +11

      For the TWA, the coroner stated the vast majority died instantly due to broken neck. I've never trusted these kinds of statements since one wonders if they are sugar coated for the sake of the families.

    • @andersonrodriguez8258
      @andersonrodriguez8258 Před 10 měsíci +6

      What happen to the patient waiting for the organ??🤦🏻‍♂️😦

    • @lindabarrett5631
      @lindabarrett5631 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @andersonrodriguez8258 I wondered that, too. Both families.

    • @andersonrodriguez8258
      @andersonrodriguez8258 Před 10 měsíci +9

      @@cchris874a lot of them were for sure alive until it hit the sea

  • @dyates6380
    @dyates6380 Před 10 měsíci +28

    Two very tragic and horrible incidents. RIP to all involved. The initial one - you know people were aware of what was going on after the explosion, but I never took into consideration the fire that was engulfing them as the fuselage flew way up in the air before defending. I hope and prey they were unconscious at least. The second one, also, the poor people KNEW they were doomed before their deaths. Just horrible all around.

    • @ej7692
      @ej7692 Před 9 měsíci +2

      You don't know that. The explosive concussion and fireball most likely helped them to die instantly. The only way to know is read the autopsy reports.

    • @alexal3986
      @alexal3986 Před 6 měsíci +2

      autopsy reports of those who sat in the last several rows of flight 800 where alert to what was happening to them.

    • @maggiemuthu9818
      @maggiemuthu9818 Před měsícem

      ​@alexal3986 OMGODDDDDD
      All the while i was quite sure all died instantaneously but this autopsy, can we find it online pls? My God have mercy

  • @TheScotty121
    @TheScotty121 Před 9 měsíci +4

    I just want to say how fascinating these videos are and the reaearch you have to do to make these videos must be immense .i for one love watching them ,its my new pass time .

  • @Virtualnoaidi
    @Virtualnoaidi Před 10 měsíci +70

    Somewhere there's a guy who, on that day, while working at the Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson airport, misplaced the luggage of Italian international football star Christian Panucci, eventually leading to him missing TWA800.
    Someone below commented that this terrible scenario (fuel-air combo, delays etc) does not seem too unthinkable, I wonder if someone can fill in what was done to prevent this from happening again.
    RIP all.

    • @Chimel31
      @Chimel31 Před 10 měsíci +21

      It's bad that the results of the investigation and recommendations were not mentioned after each of these 2 video sections indeed. That gives the whole video and the channel a real bad vibe, as if they are interested only in showing the accidents, not the lessons learned from them.

    • @stellakowalski1
      @stellakowalski1 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@Chimel31you’re absolutely right. Great comment.

    • @Pablo668
      @Pablo668 Před 10 měsíci +6

      From memory, I think they have a system which purges any oxygen out of the center tank. That way the fuel air explosion can't happen. Possibly they checked wiring in that area of all 747's then flying and found many were in poor condition, that was changed too. This crash/incident is on several shows of this type (Air Crash Investigation etc). I can't remember the specifics though.

    • @enigmawyoming5201
      @enigmawyoming5201 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Lessons learned, and steps taken to prevent such tragedies should be a prerequisite to posting horrific events on CZcams. Just IMHO.

    • @LLS710
      @LLS710 Před 10 měsíci

      No offense, but google it.

  • @xMandalorex
    @xMandalorex Před 10 měsíci +74

    The most aggressive crash imo, when the cockpit is gone? the engines go into OVERDRIVE and max speed.

    • @psalm2forliberty577
      @psalm2forliberty577 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Amazing what truly UNBELIEVABLE stories dishonest folks push, when all the available eyewitness testimony says opposite.
      Might as well say it, here we are 27 years later, many reading this were kids when this happened.
      I was 32 and remember minute details, and thought "wow, now that corrupt Bi!! C!inton is in, look how the FB! are now a pack of L I A R S.
      Boy how prophetic in retrospect, which shows how one large coverup leads to more coverups.
      But, I digress.
      Back to TWA FLIGHT ✈️:
      That clear as crystal summer eve over Long Island Sound, dozens or even hundreds of witnesses saw + later TOLD FB!
      they "saw an umistakable flight exhaust trail & heard the noise of a fast streaking airborne object (many said, pointedly, 'missle') suddenly fireball as it impacted and exploded the large passenger jet directly overhead" as it tried & failed to continue on its flight ✈️.
      Instead it's flaming wreckage with hundreds of bodies rained down in full public view.
      You'd have thought this would have been headlines, but NO !
      Instead the FB! agent phalanx fanned out to "cancel the story" by THREATENING every single citizen who dared say the verboten word "Miss!e".
      I'll let others speculate as to "why" suppress that damning narrative for one farfetched and uncorroborated, of a gas tank explosion.
      All I can say is, that day in 1996, I realized that certain parts of what claims to be our Government (if NOT Constitutional, they're "FAKE NEWS" Agencies run by Dark powers) had become actual enemies of the Average American Citizen, by whose "consent they govern".
      Not so much !
      Things have gotten better OR worse since then, my fellow Americans ?

    • @Ash888Mohd
      @Ash888Mohd Před 10 měsíci +6

      They uploaded this video like last year, I watched it like 6 times already and it’s so sad
      The other pilot say “ it’s him , god bless him “ 😢

    • @kylieharrison3782
      @kylieharrison3782 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Imagine being the passengers and staff on the first flight. Wete they fortunate enough to promptly loose consciousness or were they conscious long enough to understand that the cockpit had fallen from cabin? 😥

    • @peterc.1618
      @peterc.1618 Před 10 měsíci +6

      @@kylieharrison3782 The aircraft broke in two behind the first few rows of seats so the people immediately behind that would definitely have knows that the cockpit had gone. How long they remained conscious thereafter is uncertain. I wonder whether the flight crew realised the extent of the damage or whether they thought the aircraft was still in one piece as it went down.

    • @gregdolecki8530
      @gregdolecki8530 Před 10 měsíci

      It's called overspeed.

  • @michaelford3391
    @michaelford3391 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This is SO much better than most Air Crash videos... no narration necessary.

  • @xlnuniex
    @xlnuniex Před 9 měsíci +5

    8:00 and this is why there’s no longer AC running when stuck on the ground

  • @rgarlinyc
    @rgarlinyc Před 10 měsíci +53

    Terrible tragedies. I remember hearing of TWA800's disintegration within hours of its happening and suddenly recalling then it was a flight I regularly took in those days.

    • @LLS710
      @LLS710 Před 10 měsíci +1

      🙄

    • @JamesFaye-lt4dv
      @JamesFaye-lt4dv Před 6 měsíci

      No disintegration the navy shot that plane down

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Ok. I'll bite. Why?

    • @daniellageorgiou-norman2244
      @daniellageorgiou-norman2244 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@JamesFaye-lt4dvno they didn’t. no one shot the plane down. it was a result of the ac packs heating up, the fuel in the tanks was vaporised due to oxygen in them which then ignited due to the heat and i think there was also a broken circuit or something like that which caused the breakup

  • @vaderbaby
    @vaderbaby Před 10 měsíci +68

    I don't care what anyone else thinks, it's a good video & TWA 800 always moves me emotionally. Normally these don't get that 😢 out of me, but TWA 800 does. Generally it's all about whether I can figure out what went wrong before it is explained. Thank you.

    • @tomsurrey2252
      @tomsurrey2252 Před 10 měsíci +7

      ACTUALLY... when the other pilot said 'god bless them' I chocked up, NO... I'm not religious, it just got to me! RIP, all!

    • @enigmawyoming5201
      @enigmawyoming5201 Před 10 měsíci +5

      This would be a tough one to figure out. Not like when the pilots were flying out of DFW, flirting with the flight attendant and forgetting to put the flaps down on takeoff!

    • @enigmawyoming5201
      @enigmawyoming5201 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@tomsurrey2252 Yeah, that comment got to me too. One doesn’t need to be religious to understand when somebody makes that comment, they just want to say the most they can come up with to express their grief and concern for those, their families or friends who have, or will soon be suffering.

    • @vickiweber4718
      @vickiweber4718 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@enigmawyoming5201 what else can you say after watching 200-someodd people die?

  • @A380-MAX
    @A380-MAX Před 2 měsíci +2

    Dang thats deep, respect for those onboard...

  • @ALTN8NRG
    @ALTN8NRG Před 10 měsíci +6

    I saw this while on Long Island. It happened during daylight hours just before sunset.

  • @Simon_PieMan
    @Simon_PieMan Před 10 měsíci +10

    Hold on - if the tail section separated it’s irrelevant what the pilots did or didn’t do.

  • @Sakja
    @Sakja Před 10 měsíci +39

    There was another crash similar to the second, but they found there was something in cargo that should not been. More passengers died on that flight even though they were able to land relatively early because the pilot made a turn before stopping the plane. I think the wind from the turn intensified the flames.

    • @harishms6643
      @harishms6643 Před 10 měsíci +4

      I think it’s a Saudia L-1011 Tristar

    • @Sakja
      @Sakja Před 10 měsíci +11

      @@harishms6643 No, that was the flight in Saudi Arabia by the 3 Stooges pilots. The captain landed safely but not right away. He thought the fire wasn't serious so he landed the plane far down the runway, then waited 3 minutes to stop the engines. When an attendant asked him if they should evacuate, he said yes, but then said no. When they opened the doors 23 minutes after landing, everyone was dead. The flight I was referring to, I remember it was in the US.

    • @marciadiehl5733
      @marciadiehl5733 Před 10 měsíci +11

      @@Sakja I think it was the one that happened in the Florida Everglades. I think it was a Jet Blue that had supposed empty oxygen canisters that exploded and caused the plane to go down. Might have been in the late 1990's.

    • @harishms6643
      @harishms6643 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@Sakja Sorry dude, it’s my mistake. Thank you for pointing it out. Those pilots (l-1011) were definitely out of their minds.

    • @OTRTrader
      @OTRTrader Před 10 měsíci

      @@marciadiehl5733 That was Valujet 592 on May 11, 1996. It was the oxygen generators that began to activate, causing extreme heat in the cargo hold. A tire then exploded, causing flames to burn through control cables, causing the airplane to go into an uncontrolled descent, and crash. There's a SaberTech guy who has an FBI warrant in connection to that crash, but they haven't found him yet.

  • @eeroala5132
    @eeroala5132 Před 10 měsíci +18

    Navy was testing a RAM surface to air missile in the area and accedently shot down this aircraft. The missles warhead was removed and replaced with a telemetry unit, but even without the warhead the danage was catastrophic when the missile puctured the wing between two of the turbofans. Oops, my bad (US Navy).

    • @jessicahitchens6926
      @jessicahitchens6926 Před 5 měsíci

      All in a days work... they don't care what the collateral damage is. They navy eh... absolute psychopaths.

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Před 4 měsíci

      How do you "accidentally" short down a huge CIVILIAN plane, tho??

    • @-Thunder
      @-Thunder Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 It's been done before. Iran Air Flight 655.

  • @Tackz777
    @Tackz777 Před měsícem +1

    I remember the day TWA 800 went down. I was at a buddy’s house & the crash site/debris images came on the news. This was before 9/11, so it was a pretty big deal…similar to the day Challenger exploded. It’s pretty impressive that the NTSB was able to recover much of the plane & reassemble it to find the actual cause. It was clearly horrible for all those on board, but I can’t help but to think of the group of school kids on their first flight & school trip to Paris. What an absolutely horrible tragedy. Rest in Paradise to all the souls lost that day. 😔🥀

  • @tomsmith2013
    @tomsmith2013 Před 10 měsíci +26

    I think I would have been tempted to bolt for the door the moment I heard: "This is your pilot, Capt. Kevorkian."

  • @RomNYC
    @RomNYC Před 10 měsíci +80

    Never realized 800 was transporting an organ for transplant. I hope the recipient is okay today and that there's at least one survivor from this tragedy.

    • @calummacleod2107
      @calummacleod2107 Před 10 měsíci +9

      I think a tragedy is something that’s unavoidable like the person who needed a organ transplant, flying is a choice and a stupid one at that.

    • @GunnerRDS
      @GunnerRDS Před 10 měsíci +25

      @@calummacleod2107 230 people dying in terror through no fault of their own isn't a tragedy? But the potential death of a hypothetical organ recipient who likely didn't take proper care of their body is? Um, okay

    • @camsmith7811
      @camsmith7811 Před 10 měsíci +22

      @@calummacleod2107 What the hell are you talking about? Why do you think flying is a "stupid" choice? lmao

    • @danielshannon6027
      @danielshannon6027 Před 10 měsíci +24

      @@calummacleod2107 Enjoy your bike ride to Europe. Btw, going to other countries by boat is also more dangerous than flying.

    • @kcpoodlesofpa
      @kcpoodlesofpa Před 10 měsíci +4

      I was thinking about that too. Tragic on both ends

  • @graham3282
    @graham3282 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Brilliant Aviation video as always TFC thank you 👏 , so sad , and as always preventable , RIP to the 230 ~ 159 .. crew/passengers who lost their lives ❤and their families ...

  • @ConcernedCitizen5514
    @ConcernedCitizen5514 Před 9 měsíci +27

    I have seen an interview with a man who claims he was in the navy on a ship in 1996 doing some type of field test training exercises when someone on his ship accidentally hit TWA 800 with a missile, causing the explosion. He said that everyone on the ship was ordered to keep quiet about it.

    • @derekhamel2991
      @derekhamel2991 Před 9 měsíci +3

      I recall news networks at the time reporting claims of seeing surface to air weapon type things from folks on the ground at the time. watched this vid cause beyond that I didn't ever recall hearing the NTSB post mortem describing an actual cause.

    • @ConcernedCitizen5514
      @ConcernedCitizen5514 Před 9 měsíci

      @@derekhamel2991 There is a person named William Teele who claims that he was in the US navy on a navy ship in 1996 which accidentally shot down TWA 800. You can find videos and more info about it if you search around on the Internet. I have watched an interview he gave and it looked to me like he was telling the truth, although nobody can really be 100% certain.

    • @jeffreyobryan6406
      @jeffreyobryan6406 Před 8 měsíci

      Ironic when it initially comes out that the an explosion onboard and evidence points to a missile, only to later be changed by the CIA, FBI, and NTSB. Many people on Long Island were interviewed after the incident and most claim seeing two to three missiles rise near the surface of the ocean and strike the plane. There’s a documentary that was put out in the early 2000’s about the whole incident and how the U.S. government covered it up and made up the whole cover story that faulty wires near the gas tanks were responsible. Even though interviewed NTSB employees go on record to state that there were explosives residues on the aircraft fuselage pieces! It’s a terrible tragedy that occurred, but even more so that the government changes the narrative and threatens its own citizens over the truth!

    • @stephenoneil5610
      @stephenoneil5610 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Yes, I believe that’s what happened. The break up is very typical of a missile strike. Based on the ground conditions and the resiliency of the plane, there’s no way there could be a center fuel tank explosion. But that’s just my opinion.

    • @johnp139
      @johnp139 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Lies

  • @watershed44
    @watershed44 Před 10 měsíci +10

    *Fact is that witnesses from land saw a missile hit this plane in mid air*
    It was likely a US military missile as the US Navy were doing tests with missiles during this flight
    it is on record too.

  • @franwebb7756
    @franwebb7756 Před 10 měsíci +7

    This one always breaks my heart all over again 😢😢😢❤

  • @ClassicStreetIron
    @ClassicStreetIron Před 9 měsíci +7

    I remember the reports of a missile strike being the cause as people said they saw the missile streak up and hit the plane.

    • @paulwoodford1984
      @paulwoodford1984 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Yeah pretty much it. it it will forever be covered up

    • @windsorpatb
      @windsorpatb Před 9 měsíci

      Yes. whistleblowers in the NTSB, Military, etc. have all confirmed the cover-up of an errant Submarine missile test. The missile locked on to 800 instead of the towed drone nearby.

    • @AstoIfoo
      @AstoIfoo Před měsícem +2

      @@paulwoodford1984No. many know the truth. but cannot talk about it as we’ve seen recently with boeing.

    • @paulwoodford1984
      @paulwoodford1984 Před měsícem +1

      @@AstoIfoo The truth will never come out.

    • @barbaralawson8510
      @barbaralawson8510 Před 17 dny

      It was originally reported on the news

  • @joelcarson4602
    @joelcarson4602 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I remember watching a very long, very detailed analysis of this done by one of the investigators on C-SPAN some time after the crash. The sheer amount of detail and the almost agonizing amount of thought and science that the NTSB and FAA put into the investigation was above and beyond what you might think such projects have to do.

  • @DolleHengst
    @DolleHengst Před 10 měsíci +27

    It's a scary thought that this can cause an explosion. There's always gonna be some residue in an empty tank. Then, there's plenty of scenario's where a plane has to wait for a couple of hours. With the AC on of course if there's hundreds of passengers on board.
    Now, i know planes have crashed and disintegrated for the wildest, most unthinkable reasons. Sometimes a very minute little detail. But this? Seems like a scenario common enough to thoroughly test during development.

    • @random_silicates
      @random_silicates Před 10 měsíci +3

      This video oversimplified that to the point of getting it wrong. The gas mixture in the empty tank became rich enough to be ignitable after it was warmed by the a/c packs, because increasing the temperature of a volatile liquid raises its vapor pressure. But the source of ignition, which was never definitively proven, is thought to have been a spark from faulty wiring in the fuel quantity indication system. At the time, it was thought it was acceptable to allow gaseous mixes in tanks to reach ignitable concentrations as long as no ignition sources were present. This doctrine changed as a result of this accident. Still, there was never a time when 747s were blowing up left and right just because it was hot outside.

    • @isabellind1292
      @isabellind1292 Před 10 měsíci

      @@random_silicates Katie Couric was still misinforming people on air during 9/11 that this was an intentional bombing, smh!

    • @jessicahitchens6926
      @jessicahitchens6926 Před 5 měsíci +2

      It was shot down. So don't worry about it.. The story is ridiculous 🤣

    • @daniellageorgiou-norman2244
      @daniellageorgiou-norman2244 Před 2 měsíci

      @@jessicahitchens6926it was not shot down, that’s nonsense

  • @countalucard4226
    @countalucard4226 Před 10 měsíci +12

    I remember watching tv that night when they broke away for the news bulletin. It was horrific.

  • @SteveSwags
    @SteveSwags Před 5 měsíci +2

    I vividly remember this. I had flown on TWA, approximately 2 weeks prior, to Germany for a high school trip. We flew back about a week after Flight 800 blew up. It was pretty nerve-wracking for many of the students on the trip. Me? I had a couple of rum & Cokes that a nice flight attendant served 17-year-old me and a classmate.

  • @anniekinsmishkamouse7575
    @anniekinsmishkamouse7575 Před 10 měsíci +8

    Amazing they were able to recover parts of the second plane from the ocean floor. There were some very experienced Pilots lost. Along with the transplant on the lifeflight. Condolences to all involved. I hope the information lead to alternate procedures to prevent other occurrences.

    • @bobbertee5945
      @bobbertee5945 Před 10 měsíci +3

      I fish in this very same area where Flt 800 went down, it’s not far off the south shore of Long Island, just outside of Moriches inlet about 8 miles into the ocean, it’s not very deep in this area, roughly 100-120 feet of water.

    • @anniekinsmishkamouse7575
      @anniekinsmishkamouse7575 Před 10 měsíci

      @@bobbertee5945 Thank you for explaining this to me. I was thinking it was miles down.

  • @christopherconte27
    @christopherconte27 Před 10 měsíci +5

    This is one of the plane crashes I really remember being in NJ and in high school this got alot of coverage on NY stations. back then internet wasnt what it is now, no social media and phones, you got your news from tv and papers and being in high school my attention was focused on other things. But this was one of those events, OJ, Princess Diana, Biggie, Pac, Kurt Cobain that got my attention and I really remember.
    RIP

  • @RebeccaMundschenk
    @RebeccaMundschenk Před 10 měsíci +8

    So many layers of tragedy. The organ being transported for transplant. The pilots of the other planes that witnessed the explosion. And of course, the people on board TWA 800.

  • @TheAmerican1963
    @TheAmerican1963 Před 6 dny

    As a mechanic that built 747's for 35 years it tore my heart in two for the people and families that suffered. I also suffered for the fact that a 747 went down. They were the majority of my life. Both construction and repair. I pray the families have found peace among this tragedy.

  • @notozknows
    @notozknows Před 7 měsíci +4

    Did you notice that they kept the real reason for fire quiet? They said 'computers' when we all know they meant the batteries.

  • @jiks270
    @jiks270 Před 10 měsíci +19

    Two of the most horrific incidents back to back, the second one being even worse IMO due to the duration. Not good ways to go.

    • @dfuher968
      @dfuher968 Před 10 měsíci +8

      Yeah, the only comfort I get from the Helderberg crash, if u can call it comfort, is that autopsies of the few bodies found showed, that the passengers died of smoke inhalation fairly early in the timeline.

    • @RickL_was_here
      @RickL_was_here Před 10 měsíci +1

      Swiss Air 111 as well... Those people all would have been completely conscious all the way down and would have known there was an issue right away. Lots of time to think in that 1. Brutal.

  • @O.J._is_Guilty
    @O.J._is_Guilty Před 10 měsíci +14

    Talk about a worst nightmare. The nose of the airplane tears off and instead of falling with it you keep climbing even though there’s no pilots

    • @vivi6121
      @vivi6121 Před 10 měsíci +3

      I doubt the passengers knew that all the cockpit went off, I wonder f the pilots were still contious when it went off, that would have been horrifying

    • @cchris874
      @cchris874 Před 10 měsíci +1

      It's a myth it kept climbing. And I say that as someone who does NOT believe in the shoot down.

    • @O.J._is_Guilty
      @O.J._is_Guilty Před 10 měsíci

      @@cchris874 I didn’t know it was a myth but if it’s found a long ways away from the nose then it’s plausible it kept flying straight or climbing

    • @cchris874
      @cchris874 Před 10 měsíci

      @@O.J._is_Guilty
      In theory it's possible. But in order for the "zoom climb" scenario to happen, forward speed needs to be given up for vertical speed. But the radar returns cited in the final report don't show that. That's one point the missile proponents got correct, I believe. I don't know about the rest of their theorizing though.

  • @lloyd3404
    @lloyd3404 Před 12 hodinami

    Every case like this hurts my heart - so incredibly sad. The passengers and crew are hostages to circumstances beyond their control - if they're conscious, they know their fate.

  • @ej7692
    @ej7692 Před 9 měsíci +9

    TWA Flight 800 was shot down by either friendly fire from the military activities in the Sound, or a surface to air missile. 98% of the aircraft was recovered. A single hole on the left side just aft of the wing, showed the metal bend inward from the explosion. The explanation of a fuel tank exploding was debunked by the condition of the impact point. The FAA and NTSB had the collection of debris housed in a building, catalogued and color coded. If this was not a cover up, why did the FBI or CIA alter the debris categories and bar those qualified investigators who reassembled the a/c from the premises. Eye witnesses were threatened in the typical fashion of intimidation when the government wont tell the truth. Was heartbreaking that it was another example of a coverup for the benefit of the government.

    • @tuckerweston
      @tuckerweston Před 9 měsíci +3

      Well Said! I've been posting about this but CZcams has continuously removed my comments! When I log into my account I can see my comment about TWA800, but when I log out and view the comment section on another browser my comments are no longer there! I would expect your comment will be removed pretty soon too. Stay Strong Brother!

    • @datvik7187
      @datvik7187 Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@tuckerweston your comments are being shadow banned by Yewtewb.
      That means your comments are ONLY visible to yourself, and not the community. Sucks.

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Před 4 měsíci

      We're looking right at them, what are you talking about?

  • @Itaviation
    @Itaviation Před 10 měsíci +5

    That's a beautiful video! Keep it up, you always upload good contents🙂🙂🙂

  • @user-gh6dl8tl9c
    @user-gh6dl8tl9c Před 10 měsíci +12

    So sad ❤ hugs to all family members

    • @Craicwas90.
      @Craicwas90. Před 10 měsíci

      @@patogenify🤡

    • @patogenify
      @patogenify Před 10 měsíci

      Sad he doesnt know whats newest content to upload that the main

    • @Avendesora
      @Avendesora Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@patogenify is this vulture tactics? "If I complain on a comment that might get lots of attention even though it has nothing to do with why I'm whining, someone will see my comment, too, and maybe THEN they'll care" kinda deal? Help me out, there's gotta be something more reasonable here that I'm just not seeing.

    • @TheUnknownLocomotive
      @TheUnknownLocomotive Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@patogenifyyou know it’s a compilation of similar incidents right? The other two were separate videos. And the creator combined them into one video

    • @patogenify
      @patogenify Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@TheUnknownLocomotivemy pointed comment is not on this disaster but on what the purposes of the craeator trying to do

  • @mrkeogh
    @mrkeogh Před 2 měsíci +2

    There's something utterly horrifying about this crash, perhaps the fact that most of the passengers were likely aware of what had happened, could _see_ the catastrophic damage, and _knew_ they were going to die.
    With most fatal crashes, you can imagine passengers and crew believing they might just survive until the very last instant, but not so with TWA800.

  • @themandownthehall
    @themandownthehall Před 10 měsíci +9

    The minimum ignition temp for airline fuel vapor is 97 degrees? Dang. That seems low

    • @johnp139
      @johnp139 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Someone messed up on that figure.

    • @MrFinallythere
      @MrFinallythere Před měsícem

      Temperature and Pressure are inversely related when it comes to ignition temperature

  • @TheFULLMETALCHEF
    @TheFULLMETALCHEF Před 10 měsíci +29

    I have been saying for the longest time that all cargo areas need to be completely airtight and outfitted with a Halon fire suppression system. Once the fire is confirmed out that area can be vented.

    • @dfuher968
      @dfuher968 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Combis went out of use after the Helderberg crash. But yeah, it can still happen in the luggage compartment.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer Před 10 měsíci +3

      That makes too much sense.

    • @ImperrfectStranger
      @ImperrfectStranger Před 10 měsíci +2

      If you make a certain area airtight, rapid decompression in that area will make the surrounding floors or walls collapse. This has happened several times (damaging flight control systems and has led to major crashes). This effect is reduced by spring loaded flaps in walls and floors for pressure equalisation. Halon is not used in the cabin/fuselage because you have the possibility of killing the passengers and crew especially if the cabin/cockpit is not completely air tight.
      You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you make the aircraft like a submarine, it would be too heavy to take off (or too uneconomical for people to fly on them)
      Fire suppression systems in lower cargo areas ("luggage compartments") have always been available.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer Před 10 měsíci

      @@ImperrfectStranger
      Am I remembering correctly that the containers the cargo goes in has fire suppression, within the shell?

    • @ImperrfectStranger
      @ImperrfectStranger Před 10 měsíci

      @@grmpEqweer I'm not aware of container internal extinguishing systems, but I've been out of the industry for a while. I'm not sure if the regulations would allow an independent fire suppression system.
      The usual fire extinguishant is fed into the cargo via small tubes. The extinguishant is fed in in stages; a rapid blast, followed by a long slow release up to several hours depending on the system. Some 747 freighters do have an extinguishing system for the main deck, but most just depressurise the cabin to 25,000' to reduce the oxygen content (when the crew push the main deck cargo fire switch).

  • @StarchildMagic
    @StarchildMagic Před 10 měsíci +41

    How horrifying to be toward the front of TWA 800 and seeing the front of the airplane disappear. I can only hope the passengers lost consciousness quickly, before they had a chance to understand their fate.

    • @GoldenMushroom64
      @GoldenMushroom64 Před 10 měsíci +2

      How would they lose consciousness exactly? They most likely saw everything. Death is ugly, don’t sugarcoat it

    • @MisterRawgers
      @MisterRawgers Před 9 měsíci +29

      @@GoldenMushroom64the cabin pressure would be gone, the high right of speed and velocity could cause you to lose consciousness . Don’t be so naive.

    • @elementone4309
      @elementone4309 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@MisterRawgers I'm not sure they were yet at sufficient altitude to cause loss of consciousness upon cabin pressure disintegration. I think the video said the incident occurred at around FL138, which isn't that high.

    • @doofmaczemy
      @doofmaczemy Před 9 měsíci +7

      @@GoldenMushroom64 You're not the sharpest tool in the shed, are ya?

    • @kennymilsom
      @kennymilsom Před 9 měsíci +2

      At that height one would only become hypoxic (an oxygen deprived state) and eventually lose consciousness. So yes, probably saw most of it.

  • @mikealman9259
    @mikealman9259 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Your video's are so professional and always respectful, my only criticism (I don't even like calling it that lol) is the length of time the narration is up for.
    Maybe it's just me, but i find myself having to either speed read, and thereby missing other info shown, or as I do many times, pausing the video, which isn't ideal.
    That said, I do enjoy your content (despite the tragic circumstances covered) and I'm glad to see your channel doing so well👍👍

  • @martindunstan8043
    @martindunstan8043 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Fantastic channel with great detail of events. RIP all lives lost💐🙏

  • @mariuskuhrau761
    @mariuskuhrau761 Před 10 měsíci +9

    Please note that Helderberg disaster was the main reason, why Boeing stopped the production of the B747 Combi version. It just so happen that at the time of this disaster, I was busy with my training as a ATC at the old Jan Smuts Airport. The true cause of the fire on the main deck was never established, and South Africa was also deep in the grips of a world wide trade boycott and a arms embargo. Many high tech materials for missiles, etc had to be sourced from third parties and it was rumored that the cargo pallets on the main deck, was filled with new weapons technology, missiles parts, unknown chemicals (presumably weapons grade), etc.

    • @jessicahitchens6926
      @jessicahitchens6926 Před 5 měsíci

      Nothing would surprise me. And they love to bring countries to hell with their little embargoes

    • @jacekatalakis8316
      @jacekatalakis8316 Před 17 dny

      Not just a trade boycott, but airspace boycott as well, so the Helderberg could not take the most direct route since that would take it over nations that put the at the time aparteid South Africa under boycotts and embargso and those nations wouldn't let SAA fly through their airspace, which explains the long route

  • @Skuttleskull
    @Skuttleskull Před 8 měsíci +1

    i feel like i watched the story of this flight or a flight with a similar fate somewhat recently. i love seeing it here though as you do a very thorough walkthrough of events with good visuals and story telling. keep up the great content TFC

  • @user-cx3mj8pg5j
    @user-cx3mj8pg5j Před 9 měsíci +6

    I remember that I was what 23 it was all over the news I remember they said witnesses were saying they actually saw something like a missile take off from a boat.

  • @badass1g
    @badass1g Před 10 měsíci +19

    Millions of parts on a plane. All it takes is one of them to go bad and it can take you down. Really scary stuff! R.I.P.!

    • @lunayoshi
      @lunayoshi Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yeah, TWA had a history/reputation of being cheap because they were lax on inspections and upkeep. Neglecting their planes finally caught up to them when bad wiring caused the spark in the gas tank.

    • @Bootmahoy88
      @Bootmahoy88 Před 10 měsíci +1

      A single, small frayed cord, a spark.....

    • @framedthunder6436
      @framedthunder6436 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@lunayoshiTwa was very unlucky really and they made bad decisions
      America Airlines, United and Delta did have horrible accidents cuz of trying to cut corners too

    • @windsorpatb
      @windsorpatb Před 9 měsíci +2

      Yes. Especially those parts that are in a Naval submarine missile which locked on to TWA800 instead of the planned drone in the vicinity.

    • @ChicagoMel23
      @ChicagoMel23 Před 3 měsíci

      @@windsorpatbwrong quit spreading lies

  • @2puffs770
    @2puffs770 Před 10 měsíci +16

    Imagine having to tell that organ recipient their life is NOT going to be saved today! Sad! RIP, to all the souls lost that fateful day!

    • @andersonrodriguez8258
      @andersonrodriguez8258 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Wonder if they the patient got another die prolly die

    • @mycaddigo
      @mycaddigo Před 9 měsíci

      Like 200 people died and ur worried about the living that stuff has a chance …..

    • @jessicahitchens6926
      @jessicahitchens6926 Před 5 měsíci +1

      It's not important the plane was shot down and it was covered up. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

    • @ChicagoMel23
      @ChicagoMel23 Před 3 měsíci

      @@jessicahitchens6926it was not shot down. Quit looking for what isn’t there

    • @CrackheadHuntersDopeDealer
      @CrackheadHuntersDopeDealer Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@ChicagoMel23 Shot down. 😑

  • @JollyDeacs11
    @JollyDeacs11 Před 5 měsíci

    I am very grateful to The Flight Channel for their tireless efforts to bring such a realistic and thoughtful re-creation to their audience. I'm also grateful that I never have to endure an aviation disaster as a passenger! The delayed feeling of doom, that your life is going to be over and not to have anticipated it must be dreadful. The re-creations also address those many questions of, "what happened or how did it happen?" I have a deep attraction to aviation but also possess a huge fear of flying. Of all the flying I've done, it never goes away.

  • @sidefx996
    @sidefx996 Před 9 měsíci +3

    "I think that was him."
    "I think so."
    Definitely made this grown man tear up.

  • @Payduro
    @Payduro Před 10 měsíci +25

    If I remember correctly, TWA 800 is the accident that inspired the crash of Flight 180 in Final Destination

    • @WeirdScienceComics
      @WeirdScienceComics Před 8 měsíci +2

      Passenger, courtney johns, was the inspiration for the comic character Stargirl as well

    • @vanessapete1091
      @vanessapete1091 Před 3 měsíci

      Yes.Because several of the students had bad premonitions and didn't get on the plane,but went on later to experience tragic,untimely deaths.

  • @kritagyabadalkhurana2656
    @kritagyabadalkhurana2656 Před 10 měsíci +11

    Real viewers will realise this is a re-upload

    • @mkoury83
      @mkoury83 Před 10 měsíci

      just like real witnesses to this event will realise its all a lie.

  • @clarazegarelli5861
    @clarazegarelli5861 Před 2 měsíci +1

    6:58 "I think that was him" it got me.

  • @independentrealist6817
    @independentrealist6817 Před 4 měsíci +1

    These plane crashes are so heart breaking..... Rest in Peace.

  • @albertchehade9916
    @albertchehade9916 Před 10 měsíci +10

    still brings tears to th eyes with regards to the souls on board

  • @MrCameronsterling
    @MrCameronsterling Před 10 měsíci +3

    Me watching the maintenance crew override sensors 😢, this still haunts me to this day anytime I hear other pilots talking about the plane

  • @michaeltaylor8835
    @michaeltaylor8835 Před 9 měsíci

    Brilliant graphics thank you

  • @apexkilla
    @apexkilla Před 9 měsíci +5

    You couldn’t put WHEN this happened?

  • @melodeeaaron
    @melodeeaaron Před 10 měsíci +21

    My cousin was a VP at TWA when flight 800 went down. He denies to this day the official report.

    • @loosemoose9799
      @loosemoose9799 Před 10 měsíci +11

      If you remember, James Kalstrom was the FBI agent in charge of the investigation for interviewing witnesses. His statements indicated that people saw a fiery streak headed for the plane and then it exploded. Other witnesses saw a boat speed away after they saw a streak of something going upward after they saw the boat. At some point Kalstrom changed his story and later was removed from the investigation. My son is a retired pilot with certifications for various aircraft, including 747s. His exact words were and still are after hearing the "official "story, "It is so much horse puckey."

    • @jctrame
      @jctrame Před 10 měsíci +3

      And he’s gone now. There was never a reoccurrence, there was never a recall on the 747.

    • @loosemoose9799
      @loosemoose9799 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@jctrame My other son was in the Navy and said that a missile of unknown origin took the plane down. He was an aircraft maintenance supervisor and said the official explanation was nonsense.

    • @MarceloBenoit-trenes
      @MarceloBenoit-trenes Před 10 měsíci

      @@loosemoose9799 "He supported Donald Trump during the 2016 United States presidential election and referred to Hillary Clinton and the Clinton family as being criminal-like.[5][10] He was also critical of the Special Counsel investigation by Robert Mueller, saying in 2018 that it was orchestrated by a cabal beyond the scope of the FBI and the intelligence community. He added that he "did not recognize the agency I gave 28 years of my life to"". Too much conspirative theories here..

    • @DBBMed
      @DBBMed Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@loosemoose9799there was another agent investigating it also i dont remember gis name but i know it wasnt Kalstrom because Kalstrom was the guy who was head of the tv show also. The other agent was a real fat guy and he claimed that tests did show bomb residue on the shell of the plane. Hes dead now also. Anyone know his name?

  • @geniol28186
    @geniol28186 Před 10 měsíci +18

    I am always surprised about this accident that when images appeared of the hangar where the Boeing 747 - 100 was rebuilt to carry out the accident investigation, the upper bubble of the plane had a row of several windows as in the version of the Boeing 747 - 200 when the plane TWA dropped corresponds to the version of the Boeing 747 - 100 that has the upper bubble with only three windows, what is the explanation for this difference? Excellent channel and work they do, the best of CZcams. Greetings from Argentina.

    • @framedthunder6436
      @framedthunder6436 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Twa did have 747 - 200
      I think Only PaNam did use the 747 -100 (As they we're the ones who wanted a double deck plane)

    • @railfandepotproductions
      @railfandepotproductions Před 10 měsíci +1

      You ain't the only one who noticed

    • @railfandepotproductions
      @railfandepotproductions Před 10 měsíci

      Probably a modified 747-100 with 747-200 windows

    • @ionychel
      @ionychel Před 3 měsíci

      This was a later model 747-100 that actually had 10 upper deck windows. However, to maintain a uniform look on their fleet of 747s from that time, they plugged 7 of the 10 upper deck windows, so that it looked the same as the earlier 747-100s in the fleet that only had the three upper deck windows.
      These plugs, together with the windows, were knocked out of the fuselage during the explosion or when this section hit the ocean, therefore resulting in the 10 window holes that can be seen on the wreckage.
      Refer to the photo close-up photo in this Wikipedia article that clearly shows the plugged windows:
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800

  • @jeffell
    @jeffell Před 9 měsíci +1

    My old Commanding Officer onboard USS Waddell(DDG-24), Rear Adm. Edward Kristensen, was in charge of the US Navy salvage efforts for TWA 800.
    He is a very good man.

  • @thev1channel666
    @thev1channel666 Před 5 měsíci

    A student at the school of mine many years ago was one of the best athletes in school. He was in the school's cross-country, and headed on this flight to France. He was 20. There is a memorial at my school.

  • @babygertie6542
    @babygertie6542 Před 10 měsíci +15

    So had they filled that tank up with fuel, maybe it wouldn't have crashed?
    Love this channel ❤

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus Před 10 měsíci +24

      A full tank of fuel would take a lot longer to heat up than a few hundred litres sloshing around in the bottom of the tank. Also, a full tank of fuel would mean that there would be very little air in the tank to cause a fuel/air explosion. So yes, you're correct.
      It's a shame that they couldn't fill the big centre tank and leave the wing tanks empty instead.

    • @jkardez4794
      @jkardez4794 Před 10 měsíci

      Nobody's knows what caused the fire even if the conditions were perfect for combustion .

    • @vickiweber4718
      @vickiweber4718 Před 10 měsíci

      I was wondering the same thing. I didn't take physics and failed chemistry, so I don't know if filling the tank would've prevented this or just delayed the inevitable.

    • @jessicahitchens6926
      @jessicahitchens6926 Před 5 měsíci

      No. It was shot down probably by the US Navy..

  • @ModernVintage31
    @ModernVintage31 Před 10 měsíci +7

    What’s with all the aggressive comments on here towards the content creator? If you don’t want to watch a ‘rerun’, click off. If you’ve read other comments, perhaps you would have noticed that the video has been updated with new simulator details.
    Even if the video was purely a reupload, all the foaming at the mouth, demands and nastiness pointed at The Flight Channel is really inappropriate and weird.

    • @jessicahitchens6926
      @jessicahitchens6926 Před 5 měsíci

      He is making lots of revenue off this channel and lying about air crashes like the TWA 800. People can say what they like unless CZcams censors them which it does a lot.

  • @ayasreviewsandtoycolection7148
    @ayasreviewsandtoycolection7148 Před 9 měsíci +16

    There even was a documentary on Netflix about it but it has since been REMOVED. And in it a chief aviation engineer even SAID that upon examination of the ENTIRE plane, that SOMETHING FROM THE OUTSIDE caused the plane to IMPLODE from the OUTSIDE IN. Not INSIDE OUT as traditional aviation disasters ARE.

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Don't they ALWAYS pull stuff on Netflix?

    • @joannegregory3024
      @joannegregory3024 Před 3 měsíci +2

      The empty fuel tank filled with flammable gas from the air conditioning running for 2 hours while plane was on the ground and a spark from faulty wiring caused the explosion,they rebuilt almost the entire plane it was amazing

    • @shindrithargriethrat8408
      @shindrithargriethrat8408 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@joannegregory3024 Believe that nonsense if you want to.

    • @tommeliusbthaprofit6157
      @tommeliusbthaprofit6157 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Can you not capitalize every other word for emphasis? It dilutes your goal of giving said things emphasis and makes you look like a child

    • @genelleellis4823
      @genelleellis4823 Před 2 měsíci

      @@shindrithargriethrat8408 its true...

  • @bman111800
    @bman111800 Před 9 měsíci +26

    I was at smith point beach when flight 800 went down. I was also a firefighter that responded with my crew that night looking & praying we found a person alive. I will never forget what I saw in the aftermath floating on the water, and I definitely will not forget how it really came down. Don’t always believe a video.

    • @tueregomez2851
      @tueregomez2851 Před 9 měsíci +2

      I trust what you're saying, so how did it go down????😮

    • @malcontent456
      @malcontent456 Před 9 měsíci +12

      Missiles.

    • @katsanddoggies9904
      @katsanddoggies9904 Před 9 měsíci

      @@tueregomez2851 The cause of the explosion was the testing of the Aegis Weapons System developed and managed by Raytheon and Lockheed Martin. It explains that the defense system fired SM-2 missiles with live warheads from warships at aerial missile targets off the coast of New York in close proximity to commercial flight paths.

    • @sillylittleidiotlol
      @sillylittleidiotlol Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@malcontent456 bro not at all

    • @TheBigbrizzle
      @TheBigbrizzle Před 9 měsíci

      I was up late on the west coast watching cnn when the first reports came in. They said numerous witnesses saw a missile come from the below, hit the plane and explode. I went to sleep, woke up in the morning and cnn never said another word about it. I always figured terrorism, a guy in a zodiac with a shoulder rocket or something. Others have said there were military drills in the water nearby, hard to believe that story.

  • @TheLesserWeevil
    @TheLesserWeevil Před 10 měsíci +24

    Allowing flammable cargo on passenger flights seems a bizarre decision to me.

    • @lunayoshi
      @lunayoshi Před 10 měsíci +8

      It was a computer. This is why they don't want you to ship computers or other electronics with lithium batteries. Those things leak or explode at high altitudes or pressure or something. I dunno. I worked for a store that shipped UPS and we had to ask about the lithium battery before we would be allowed to ship it.

    • @TheLesserWeevil
      @TheLesserWeevil Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@lunayoshi "they don't want you to ship computers or other electronics with lithium batteries"
      Except in this case I guess.

    • @mkoury83
      @mkoury83 Před 10 měsíci

      um..... fuel?

    • @TheLesserWeevil
      @TheLesserWeevil Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@mkoury83 um..... what?

    • @richellebrittain2127
      @richellebrittain2127 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Perhaps no one in 1987 realized the issues with lithium batteries, especially in apartheid-era South Africa. That could be why that possibility was never considered then; today it probably would be the first thing investigators consider.