Slingshots: SimpleShot Torque vs SimpleShot FlippinOut Scout
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- This is a comparison and discussion regarding the SimpleShot FlippinOut Scout and the Simple Shot Torque slingshots (catapults). I shoot them both (and while I'm at it do the wooden nickle challenge for a free band set from SimpleShot) by shooting a wooden nickel at 33 feet.
In this video, I discuss the similarities and differences between these two slingshots (catapults) and I have quite a lot to say regarding banding methods and some specific information regarding looped tubes. There's a lot of good information in this video regarding these two slingshots. I hope you will enjoy it.
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Thank you for telling me about twisting the pouch because I'm a TTF SHOOTER myself and when I went to OTT I started getting fork hits sometimes myself and my Zone slingshot from SNIPERSLING I paid 170 dollars for its a MINNI ROBBIN CUSTOM and its OTT and I had a few fork hits and damaged it on the fork so I was pissed off majorly. So thanks for the tip with twisting the pouch il try it out my friend.
the torque is awesome. I have never shot a slingshot in my life and I got my mitts on one today, after a little fiddling around I am consistantly hitting a basketball at 15 yards. Excellent little tool, friendly(compared to a full size 1911 pistol) and compact, no noise, and cheap to shoot. I'm so excited. Had this for half an hour and its became my favorte toy/
I am biased and would always choose a torque something about that pinch grip. I have tried many slingshots and always keep the Torque on my person. I believe you were the one that got me into using straight cut bands, we was discussing it on the forum. Never got to say thanks for that by the way (was quite a few years back before the band cut templates were hitting the scene big time).
Glad to have found this video. I was on the fence between the Scout and the Torque as my second Simple Shot purchase; the Axiom Champ was my first and I love it. I learned on a Daisy wrist rocket with tubular bands. After shooting the Axiom with the flat bands I have to go with flats. Number one, the ergonomics of the Axiom is outstanding for me. Number two, it fits in my pocket so much easier than the heavy and cumbersome Daisy models. Number three, my accuracy rate rose considerably. I found a belt holster on Amazon that the Axiom fits in perfectly. Carrying it in my back pockets I was always concerned with ruining the bands. I'm certain the Scout will fit in it as well. I also found a leather ammo pouch that will contain I would say 100+ 3/8 inch shot. The unique feature of the pouch is a snap out tab with a magnet on it. As you unsnap the tab and put it out a shot is available on the magnet and none of the other shot falls out or at least past the magnet. Both leather items were less than $20. Simple Shot also offers a Bug Out Bottle containing flat bands that are capable of chucking stones and ammo, something to consider tossing into a bug out bag.
Simpleshot is a spectacular company. They make all sorts of great gear, don't they? .. I'm glad this video was useful for you. Thanks for watching!
I've been enjoying your honest, very personal reviews.
I'd be happy to have your as my neighbor.
Thank you for the kind words! I appreciate it. the slingshot videos are easy because they're fun to do. I've added a couple more slingshot frames to my collection this winter and I think I'll do at least a few more videos like this one when I find some time.
Thank for the video. I also have a Torque. Add i have had alot of fork hits. This definitely helps. Thanks for the twist tip.
I bought a Torque after owning/shooting 2 Scouts set up in OTT configuration, and experienced multiple fork hits and then one fork broke off after less than 20 shots (I think I was shooting 7/16" steel ball ammo). The break was clean, so I drilled and tapped the frame & fork for a #10-32 x 2" machine screw and reassembled it with the screw and epoxy, and haven't had any problems since. I also tweaked my pouch angle after watching Nathan's video on how to avoid fork hits. Nice thorough review!
that's a bummer you broke a fork but very cool your repair was effective. - I've kept the tubes on this one and I hunt mice in and around the shop with it. I exclusively use 3/8 steel outside and I go with a #0 50 grain lead ball inside (because the steel ricochets a lot and the lead doesn't very much... there are a few breakable things inside the shop). I can't remember the last fork hit I had.
Dennis O'Brien your torque broke?
@@mamajen1000 thought they were polycarbonate
Its expected with the fork gap being so small.
Great video man...I am new to this sport and just learning, so your video was very informative and well done.
Thanks! I'm glad this information was useful!
Thank you for another great upload, after watching your video with the H T Sniper and the Scout, I purchased the Scout earlier today . I hope I will shot as well as you.
You will be very happy with The Scout. It's the easiest slingshot/catapult to get consistent and accurate with. And, the flip clips make band management simple. i really am very fond of the Scout.
I was getting lots of fork hits when i first started shooting the torque but after i watched your video about putting a little tweak on the pouch before releasing the ammo and after doing that i haven't since had a fork hit. Because of the fork hits ive chipped the frame in a few places and i had to sand the fork hits down because they were scraping against the bands.
Thanks a lot bud for your help and advice!
I'm glad that tip was useful for you! I wish I could remember the user who mentioned it on the slingshot forums, but it sure helped me too.
does the direction of the tweak matter?I use my right hand to hold the sling shot, and left for the tube, should I tweak clockwise or counterclockwise? thanx!
Great review, thanks so much for the great insight, nice job!!!
I'd go with the Scout just because of the frame shots, who needs that even if ther i's a remedy for it!!
Like all your other videos, great, useful information. Thanks for posting it.
Thanks for the kind words, and thanks for watching! I appreciate your time.
I have been collecting oddities since 1997. I really like how odd this thing looks. I think it is very strange looking. I have no idea on how it would perform as I only collect. One day I hope to have a big collection of these and other oddity. great videos
Another great comparison video!! Already had the scout, torque is a great frame too... can never have enough frames is what I'm learning...thank you again for videos!
I hesitate to call either one of them "my favorite" but the truth is that they are the ones I use the most. I've gotten so comfortable shooting either one of them that I can keep high confidence when after live prey like field mice.
Essential Gear & Useful Skills I'm with ya there...I have found that different frames for different things and what I'm doing...loving both these ones!
Really enjoyed your video one of the best I have seen greetings from Ireland thanks very much
I appreciate the kind words. Thank you for taking the time to watch!
I think I want a Torque. I have been shooting the Scout with looped tubes for years. I took all of my flat bands & threw them in my junk drawer. I keep them just in case I need them.
I have the scout lt and I might grab the scout xt now. Damn fork hits... I always seem to have 1 or 2 until I get used tothe slingshot
I have a scout and a hammer LT(just got)...do u see any advantage to the odd shape of the torque? For me because of the fork hit issue you encountered, I will pass on it though.
Looks like a tough frame on that torque. Thanks for the info
ha I tried a couple grips and soon found the most comfortable way to shoot it. With my right hand wrapped around the curved side of the handle its kinda like gripping a gun at the wrong angle. And my shots go where I aim! Well kind of.
Love the channel. Wish you would do more slingshot videos and maybe some big bore blowgun videos.
Awesome shooting pal!
Thanks!
Great comparison review!
I own two Scouts as well ..an all black...and a black with red handle...you have great taste! :)
The Scout sure is easy to shoot well. It just has such a natural feel in the palm and is so easy to align. Even though I own a bunch of different slingshots now, the Scout is my favorite.
Essential Gear & Useful Skills Yeah. ..I hear ya...I own 15 slingshots; a few of which are high quality customs, and the two scouts are my dedicated shooters for hunting...just because I am so accurate with them...
Thanks for the video bro'.! I've got an Axiom Oclaris & a Jellybean from Simpleshot and you helped me make a decision... I think a Torque is on the menue.
The torque sure is easy to carry around. I have been carrying two slingshots every day since a week after I shot this video. My torque has been in my pocket most of the time, and The Hammer has been in my day bag. I'll note that I've been shooting The Hammer every chance I get and getting a lot of video (I've been putting that one through its paces and hunting with it as often as possible for over a month now) for my next review. Around work and around the house, I'm shooting the Torque a lot too just plinking and killing the occasional field mouse because it's just no big deal to have it in my shirt pocket and a couple dozen 3/8 steel bearings in my watch pocket. It's nice to have such a thin, light slingshot as part of the EDC.
Hiya mate
I really like your videos and there very helpful.I've been shooting the torque slingshot for a while now and i can hit the target at 30 feet but im not consistent at hitting the target. Can you give me any tips on improving my aiming? Thanks
I'm going to say something that lots of other people will disagree with, but I believe it strongly: Being consistent is everything -->even when you do something that isn't necessarily "proper". Lots of people will tell you to try to perfect your form and your pouch hold and your stance etc. I'm going to tell you to try to do everything about each shot exactly the same every time even if part of what you do might be technically wrong. Try to hold the frame exactly the same every time. Try to hold the pouch the same every time. Try to get your "sight picture" the same every time. Try to get your stance the same and try to release your shot in exactly the same part of your inhale or exhale of breath.... even if any of the things you do aren't perfect. … Some folks will say I'm encouraging bad habits and you'll have a hard time breaking them if you train your muscle memory to doing something "wrong". There's a lot to be said for "perfect form" and for breathing control and everything else regarding shooting. But the most important thing is consistency because you'll create repeatable results. Once you have repeatable, consistent results, then you can try to fine tune each individual aspect of your form and shooting action to improve those already repeatable consistent results.
Good shooting. What 's the hold over for the long range shots.
75 feet with 3/8 steel isn't as high of a hold over as one might think. I hit that peanut can in the center by aiming about 3 inches above it. The trajectory with 3/8 steel and the stock tubes stays flat for a long way.
Can you mention the names of the slingshooting forums you like?
excellent shooting
Thanks!
Thank you! :)
You probably read about the "tweak" from DGUI or his followers. Usually, for OTT, a tweak and forward flip is recommended.
Regards,
THWACK!
that sounds familiar. Thanks!
All good products!
I couldn't agree more. I was hunting field mice in the shop with the torque after work. I got 5. Any slingshot that is easy enough to shoot and fast enough to kill mice at 20-50 feet has my seal of approval. I haven't had the scout out in a little while, but the snow is melting so I'll be out in the woods more soon.
Good for you brother, but I make my own slingshots.
So it rides with the AR-7? Looks like it is a "what the shooter likes or wants" choice. Though the tapered band longevity could be an issue. Thanks for posting another review on slingshots.
Yeah... Just one more item in the varmint gettin' arsenal ;) Thanks for watching another one, Drew!
Simple-Shot has a video about alternative banding with flip clips, including looped tubes. There are a couple of suggestions.
They do work fine with the clips. It's a little hard to find the exact right spot and pick an aiming reference, but with a little tinkering, it works.
I thought about my reply a little bit... I guess it was probably worth mentioning that I have not mastered aiming down the bands yet. After doing some shooting, I just figure out the spot on the upper fork that gets the horizontal plane correct to the flight of the projectile. Then, I just judge distance for the vertical considering the trajectory I expect. The only thing that tends to cause me to have "big misses" is when I don't pay attention to where/how my feet are placed. If and when I master leaning my head over the bands and doing the "One Line" aiming, I think I'll be a lot more comfortable with looped tubes on the scout... and I think the placement of my feet will become a little less important.
My problem seems to be having 2 working brain cells.
Just take a saw And cut grooves in the side of your flipping out scout and you could put the round bands on just as quick
Try the new black latex bands from Simple Shot.
I have and I like them. It's winter here in SW Montana, and they perform better in the cold.. or are at least faster to warm up with a couple of stretches and a shot or two.
just ordered some
black bands hold up great i have about 60bands sets made up but still useing the same set that i put on a year ago must have shot 8oo hundred shots with them and they are powerfull
BLACK BANDS FROM SIMPLE SHOT LAST A LOLG TIME GREAT PRICE I HAVE TO SCOUTS
Does anyone know the price of this slingshot and where can I get it?
Here's The Torque amzn.to/2gzmQj9 and here's the Scout amzn.to/2hwOCwH and both are also available at www.simple-shot.com
SIMPLE SHOT PRICE IS ABOUT 45 DOLLARS
The torque all day
Do you thing the scout is sufficient for hunting small game? Pigeon, rabbit, present
Absolutely. I've taken several cotton tails with my scout. Larger/heavier ammunition requires different bands than I have mounted on it in this video, though.
Essential Gear & Useful Skills good evening. That’s useful to know as I am interested in potentially buying this product to help source food for the table. Thank you for getting back to me
Kind regards
James
It's honestly not the frame that makes it good for hunting. All the power comes from the bands. The frame is there to hold. You could have the scout and a Y fork from a tree and if you use the same bands on them the power/speed should be the same. The big caveat is this. Frames are different so what's comfortable to shoot is dependant on the frame. But the power and consently hitting target is bands and you. Not the frame.. So for long answer. But so many peoe seem to think a frame is what adds power and its the bands. Best way to explain is sort of like a rifle.. The rifle doesn't make ammo go faster. All things the same. Ie barrel length etc.. It's the ammo and powder load. The bands are like that. Bands are like the rifle ammo. The rifle and frame are just the delivery system.
So find a frame you find is comfortable and you trust and practice then practice more. Good hunting ammo is 7/16 to 1/2 inch. Or 38 to 50 cal lead. I personally like 44 cal round lead ball. Smashes though a rabbit at 10-15 yards. Remeber. Head shots. For most part sling shots kill by blunt force. A 50 cal round lead in head or neck area is devastating to rabbit sized game . Even a bad shot will kill it, but it will probably be traumatizing to the rabbit and you.. Ie alot of screams and flopping from the rabbit and you will have to walk up and finish it off. God iv rambled on sorry folks.
Dude, you're a pretty good shot! You are lucky, here in Commiefornia I'm afraid to shot my slingshots without my neighbors calling the cops.
It sounds like you need better neighbors. And, a catch box might be a good idea for you. I have lots of places around home, work, and out at my dads farm that I can shoot without ever worrying about any of my shot reaching any neighbors property. If I didn't, I'd get my practice in with a catch box.
Whats a catch box? I'm going to guess it's a wooden or cardboard box with a heavy piece of cloth draped in front of it? BTW, can you make an instructional video on how to aim your slingshot? I really have no idea what I'm doing.
Yes. About the best idea I have seen is to convert a plastic storage tub using some old tee-shirts, glue, and a wooden dowel. If your projectiles are caught, your neighbors won't have anything to complain about. I'll have to think on an aiming video. I'm not sure if I'm a good enough teacher to explain that on camera. I will suggest that you find the youtube channel Gamekeeper John. He has some aiming videos that are very well thought out and make sense.
Thanks for the dual tips! I snuck a few shots in my backyard I simply clothes pinned a beach towel to my clothes line and it work pretty good. Will definitely check out Gamekeeper John.
Great video I also love the scout, could you possibly review the peerless poly from Simpleshot I'm hoping its performs like a more pocketable version of the scout I'm also interested on your views on the attachment method it has. I would really appreciate it if you could compare the two size, fork width etc I got the ocularis a while back but that little thing is just not for me I'm just not very accurate with it, keep getting fork hits and I've just stopped using it. Don't get me wrong I'm not hating on the ocularis I've seen many videos of people using it to great effect it just does not work for me I am not a slingshot expert by any means.Thank you ES
I'm hoping to get the Peerless Poly for Christmas. The other one that has been on my mind since I got the Torque is the Classic Catapults Slimline. That one also looks very pocketable.
Thanks for reply I will look forward to see what you put up after Xmas take care and enjoy your holidays mate
You're a good shot with those Bro! Thanks for the vid.
thanks! And thanks for watching!
Well I just ordered the Torque, and some 1750 high power tube sets. LOL
You'll enjoy that slingshot. It's a lot of fun to shoot and easy to have in the pocket.
How much practice time have you put into shooting these things?
I take about a half hour every day after work to target shoot and I've been hunting gophers, pack rats, and field mice around my dad's farm about once a week for the last 2 1/2 months or so. I was hitting pop can sized targets out to 60 feet with the Scout in the first few days of shooting. Lately, I've been trying to hone my skills by shooting at smaller targets and sometimes at greater distances. 75 feet seems to be the longest distance I can remain consistent, but I've been taking a few shots at 100' every day and I'm getting better.
nice
Thanks!
Clay Balls Vid would be cool
They are pretty easy, but I'm working on a way to make them even easier and produce a pretty much perfectly round ball every time. Thanks for watching!
thats what i use clay 3/8 clay balls they go to dust when you hit a can no damage to the earth
Must have been how you aim with the fork hits I've been shooting the torque for about 7 months now and never had a fork hit.
Where I life,the simple possession of a slingshot can cost up to 5 years imprisonment and/or 55000 euro penalty, one can however own airguns no restrictions on power and caliber, bows and crossbows and arrows/bolts. all very weird
I can't imagine what it's like to be subject to a government that doesn't trust you with a slingshot.
Anti-gun people in USA say , " Guns Kills People". I say , "People Kill People." Let us remember the mother of (5) children , in Texas whom drown them all in the bathtub ! A gun is a " tool" as are scissors , a knife, an ice pick, a axe, tire iron , hammer, and more . Hmmm, a small man in the Bible - named David killed a giant with a sheppard's sling and a stone. ( "People kill People" , duh.) . Mtn Mel , Ret. USN SERE-POW Inst. . Note - We have the " Make My Day Law " here in Colorado. Do NOT break into my home.
Mel Deweese lets not forget the deadliest weapon of all, an idiot with a car. I'll be honest though, I do support no automatic firearms in civilian hands.
wot country u in
CRAZY A KID CAN MAKE ONE NOW WHAT
You are very accurate with those slingshots!
I love to eat poultry, and I wonder if those slingshots would be a good device for hunting and procuring wild game fowl such as turkey, grouse, pheasant, quail, ducks, geese, or other fowl?
I assume that they work well on squirrels, and chipmunks.
Thanks for the video.
Absolutely these are capable of taking grouse, pheasant, quail, ducks, etc. As long as you get the head or neck shot, anyway. Wing feathers on most birds are pretty good armor and even a direct hit with 44-50 cal lead might be more or less shrugged off by a duck or pheasant wing. I think a turkey would require a pretty perfect head shot. Turkey is a durable critter and I've seen more than a couple come out with the upper hand in a coyote fight after having their necks bitten and shaken. ... I have killed several gophers with slingshots now, so I can say first hand that they will kill squirrel and you don't necessarily have to get the neck or head. The blunt force on important organs is enough... I don't hunt squirrels and I won't kill a chipmonk. Here's something personal I don't mind sharing: I was 12 years old the last time I killed a chipmonk. It was the one and only time in my life I ever killed a critter for no reason. 35 years later I still feel a little bad about it. I could take you right to the tree he was on, in fact... I remember that little critter every time I walk through that part of the woods on dad's farm.
Hey, I once hit a chipmunk too, and the BB that I hit him with just bounced off, and he ran away, apparently no worse for wear.
The one and only time that I ever hit a chipmunk, and yes, just a kid hunting for no good reason, other than to develop prowess with the slingshot.
Did you take a break from youtube? I haven't heard from you in a while. I thought for sure you might have some information to add to the yukon outfitters walkabout tarp video. ... And, as I've told you before, when I visit your youtube page, there's no way to send you a message, so I couldn't check on your well being. ... And I do hope all is well.
Well, no real break, actually I have been watching videos from Ben of Living Survival, Feral Woodcraft, Gideon's Tactical, High Carbon Steel Love, Prepared Mind 101, Ramblings of a Prepared Mind, Mantis Outdoors, Wingman 115, Kevin's Adventures, Adventure, Trail and Mountain, Bushcraft Barton's, Dave Canterbury, Black Owl Outdoors, Black Scout Survival, Black Rifle Survival, and Blacktiph (boy, that's a lot of black in those channel names) just to name a few, and of course your videos.
I did watch the entire video on the Yukon-Outfitters tarp, and I was actually going to comment, and had the page open, when my Firefox browser crashed.
It does that sometimes when I have too many tabs open at one time.
I was reminding myself to go back and review the video again, but had not yet gotten back to it.
Let me watch it again, and I will send you my thoughts.
Obviously that YO tarp was not going to give the DD Tarp 3x3 a run for the money, but for the low cost, it will probably be good enough for occasional use.
I have some new gear purchases, and other potential purchases to run by you soon, and by the way, following are a few links to gear on sale at Woot, including some Max[edition gear that you seem to like.
sellout.woot.com/plus/maxpedition-packs-and-bags-3?ref=sp_gh_so_11_wp_8
sport.woot.com/plus/build-your-own-survival-kit-1?ref=sp_gh_sp_6_wp_2
You are a dedicated youtube viewer... Let me suggest another good channel to fit the theme: Black Warrior Lures. About half of his videos are about modifications he makes to his boat, but the other half are full of all sorts of info about living and obtaining food in the wet climate South.
can you sponsor 1 slingshot for me because I can't afford my money is not enough for my medicine 🙏🙏🙏