Israeli women soldiers give shocking testimonies about Israeli army (Full Documentary, 2007)
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- A personal account of female soldiers about their life in the Israeli Army, the only one to draw women for mandatory military service.
A female point of view on the drama of an unending war, on the moral challenges they faced at the encounter with the Palestinian population. Questions that were not dealt with during the service are raised today with great pain - and courage. A female point of view on the drama of an unending war, on the moral challenges the soldiers faced at the encounter with the Palestinian population. The young women look back critically at the way they handled the power that was placed in their hands at the young age of eighteen. Did they really smile in the pictures?
In 1988 the filmmaker served herself in the Israeli Defence Force in the Occupied Territories. 'How could I ever think I'd forget...' is what one of the young women asks herself at then end of this film.
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Their name are Meytal, Rotem, Inbar, Dana, Tal, Libi, they have one thing in common, having served the Israeli Defense Forces. In Israel, the national military service is mandatory for all Israeli citizens over the age of 18, male and female.
Through the different stories of these women, the documentary raises the question of the place of women in the army, a world historically of men, but also and more broadly the question of the group and what the human is able to do to assert its place .
These young women from the top of their 18 years, will discover a world completely different from their daily life in the ultra secured state that is Isreal. First of all, entering this military space will instinctively lead them to erase their femininity and copy the behavior of men. Furthermore, joining the army will also lead them to participate in a group dynamic, based on their belonging to Israel. Some of them will commit atrocious acts during this endless conflict with Palestine, which they would certainly never have thought of being able to undertake.
In fact, for some of them, the pride of serving their country and doing "good" will soon give way to a feeling of disillusionment and fear when faced with the reality of the horrors of war.
With impressive candor they talk about what they saw and what they did; the way they tried to make sense of this ‘other world’, and how they tried to reconcile their experiences with the self they were familiar with, stripped of army uniform. However, the documentary does not seek to excuse or justify the acts that were committed in the West Bank during this period since the first Palestinian uprising.
"To See if I’m Smiling" powerfully explores the way gender, ethics, power and moral responsibility interact in times of war. Its rare tapestry of women’s testimonies leaves us to ponder some of the most burning questions of our times. It is not only a story about women in the Israeli army and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but a universal story, about war and its atrocities and what it does to people.
Original title: To See if I'm Smiling
A film by Tamar Yarom
A Tamar Yarom Production
© 2007, Licensed by First Hand Films
#documentary #israel #army #women #palestine
For those who just tuned in, this has been going on now for 75 years people!
No it has not.
Arabs have been killing jews since forever. Before there was any occupation.. you people ignore the FACT that these people have been slaughtering jews everywhere they go in the world. All Arab nations have slaughtered jews and kicked them out well before they returned back to their homeland. The Quran even says all jews must die.. blames everything on the jews.. what about the thousands of palastenians killed by their own??? The other nations that kill them? All the other mualim nations that actively use them? Brain dead u are.
Way longer than that. Jewish people have been doing this to Palestinians for 140 years. It's become worse though. Thanks to social media Israel's lies are gradually being debunked. Israel was built on stolen land. Anyone in their right mind wouldn't accept living in a place (I don't want to call it a country or a state -- they don't deserve it) that has been built on lies and stolen land. They try to portray themselves as the only democratic "place" in the Middle East, but they are worse than any other dictatorship, because they have the Israeli Lobby filling up the pockets of politicians in America and other European countries to cover up their lies. Shame on the U.S. for allowing them to get away with this.
People God Loves us even that we most often reject Him that is why so much darkness is happening all around the world
God came among us , living our sorrows and hardships, was confronted with sin , and emerged victorious and clean ,holy for us on our place because we are not able ourselves and He loves us not wanting anyone to parish because the fallen state of the world ,rebellious against its Creator
He was hanged on the cross ✝️ for our sake to suffer death not wanting the spiritual death we are in to lead to to Judgement
Embrace JESUS Call upon GOD for Salvation for we are saved through Faith by Grace not according to our righteousness, so live holy as our GOD is Holy and Just
WHO gave HIS only Begotten SON , and by HIS Blood that was shed on The cross ✝️ of Calvary
That the judgement we deserved was laid on The Lamb Of GOD
So repent people -change your mind about God and believe in The Lord Jesus Christ, For
GOD Loves us so so much , just call to HIM and HE will answer you always in a way only you may understand to Glorify HIS Name 🎉🌇🌅✝️✝️🌌💒💙🕊🔥🌁
GOD bless you all Amen 🙏🏻
@@JesusChrist-SavesFromHell What an incredible and _harmful_ thing to say 😲 YOU are the reason people like the Israelis are allowed to do what they do. It's YOUR government, YOUR religion, YOUR 'God' that are backing these terrible people, and all you have to say is 'God will fix all after prayers and wishes' !? Are you completely gone from reality ? I think your 'God' have had _plenty_ of time to fix issues around the world after 'prayers' and similar nonsense.
Please move on, and stop harming people with religious gobligook. You are not twelve years old anymore. Thank you.
And it will not end until they learn to coexist with other people.
To the people in the comment section:
1. These women aren’t victims, they are the reason there are hundreds of victims
2. It’s not a war, it’s an ethic cleansing
They are also victims. They have been brainwashed as teenagers and essentially belonged to a cult. What is worse, murdering people or being brainwashed into committing murder and having to live with it everyday for the rest of your life?
Maybe your right mate
Ironic that they feel like victims
Well when you are brainwashed from birth to be a proud Government Slave that will fight & die for your Country but after being manipulated into being a Murderer & realizing it was all just a game to the Elites that played you, well you do realize that you were in fact a victim..@@darthnagus5457
To you Sara_S8:
1. if that is the case then every Palestinian right now aligning with Hamas are terrorist's
2. It is collateral damage as it is a war.
This is not PTSD, this is recognising their shame at being horrible people.
It's what happens when their poor souls are corrupted by evil.
They may PTSD when they come conscious and realised what they have been part of.
So true.
It is PTSD. Every military soldier that had been in combat experienced it.
the most horrible in the world? the USA--world time leaders in mass murder and brutality...
I recently found a video on YT that was uploaded 17 years a go.
Almost as old as you tube itself.
The video is of two male former Israeli soldiers speaking of the mistreatment they metered out on Palestinians in the west bank settlements.
Occupying houses for days so they could spy on people.
Locking the family in a bedroom, denying them the right to even leave to go to earn a living.
Eating their food, using the children's bedrooms to store their weapons and ammunition whilst occupying the property totally unannounced and often in the dead of night and with violent threats to the father of the home in front of his children.
These two Israelis were pretty messed up over it.
They had conducted these operations hundreds of times.
It ran counter to there own moral code. One soldier remarked on how some of these Palestinians even after the mistreatment would still share their food with the soldiers. That really got to one of the men being interviewed. How could they be kind to his demonic ways. The realisation broke him.
They even left Israel because it changed their view of the entire state apparatus.
They did not volunteer as it was part of national service.
So they too were the victims of their legacy.
That video was 17 years old.
So don't tell me this started on OCT 7th and don't tell me if you treat a community that way for decades you shouldn't expect violent pushback at some point.
Most Americans have guns to protect against home invasion.
I wonder how they would feel if government agents stormed their home at 3am and trashed it for days even weeks, held them hostage and belittled them in front of their children. Then left.
Yea. Think about that.
Britain fought the IRA for 30 years. 3000 lives lost.
Yet the British government never carpet bombed Belfast even when IRA terrorists were living amongst civilians.
Even after the IRA blew up the British government in the Grand hotel in Brighton.
Not even after they blew up Lord Mountbatten, a royal member on his boat.
Britain did not move to aerial bombing an entire city to 'target terrorists'
And how did that 30 year campaign of violence end?
With a cease fire agreement by both sides.
The IRA weren't wiped out.
Some of its members are in the Irish government today, legitimately voted in to power in a democratic election within Ireland.
Compromises had to be made by both sides.
And what did the IRA think of Brits during that 30 year campaign.
They wanted anyone in support of the British establishment dead. Eradicated.
And how did the British establishment label those IRA members. As terrorists that didn't deserve to live among us..
Sound familiar now.
And what religions were involved in that campaign?
Well neither side were muslim thats for sure.
This isn't an unprecedented situation. Its a copy of a copy of a copy demonstrated by colonialist oppression for centuries.
Its time it was stopped for good everywhere.
I just watched the same video, this one got offered to me after watching that one. This is so sad. All these people will be a broken version of who they could’ve been . All for some fascist regime ideology. By now they could’ve lived in peace in ME, like this people are dying senselessly on both sides, more so on Palestinian than Israeli.
Could you please share the title of the video and is it available on you tube?
Thanks
@@samna789 the name of the video is
-Burning Conscience: Israeli Soldiers Speak Out-
those two are pretty much the first members of breaking silence movement.
Check out also newer breaking silence videos ex IDF soldiers (at this point they have over 1500 members) speak out against occupation, and treatment of Palestinians.
Hope this helps!
@@Kewlstorybro101can u plz share the video title?
Now i understand where Palestinian resistance come from ...
Look into the Nakba.
Well actually, during Corona and with all the fake news at that time, they resisted without reason ;) @@syrious_kash8268
@@syrious_kash8268 I know my friend . I'm just being sarcastic.
With the major difference- they have no self reflection
@@leahfrishling7088 They never did anything nowhere near as bad as Israel did, even if we only include things that are admitted in this document. Also if you watch the documentary from west bank, although the ones talking are ONLY killing soldiers in a fair fight (or rather unfair to them) and have nothing to do with october 7, they still feel remorse and have more self reflection than the whole IDF altogether.
This isn't a War, Calling the children over your finger , torturing them with burning cigarettes and kicking them with your Army boots ....Any child under this abuse is bound to become vindictive..... Just ask these female soldiers that what they'll do if some one else treat their children the way Israel Army treat the Palestinian children ?
Fully agree with you.If you treated a dog this way of course it would bite you , Humans are no different , Poor little children.
What do you think about Hamas and there human shields. ???
@@marknagy4779Finkelstein says there is no proof of that and even to the contrary, according to him it is documented iDF have used Palestinians as shields. I mean Israel will even shoot their own instead of risking their capture as per the Hannibal directive
@@marknagy4779mf they have no where to go.. they were asked to move south and then they bombed south and killed 1000s.. and how do you think hamas recruits new fighters?? All those people who lost their loved ones who want to take revenge on israel will always join hamas.. what israel is doing does not end hamas,it only strengthens them.. be blind.. but dont think that the whole world is blind..
you believe this lie?
what do you call humane shields are people living in their home @@marknagy4779
anyone who is sad about these vets imagine the people and children (Palestinians ) in particular facing the abuse and horrible treatment on day to day basis how traumatic that would be .....
The reason most of these women feel the way they do is because deep down they know the evil acts they participated in. Israel is basically like the big Bully who punishes Palestine and is surprised when palestine attacks israel. The News on TV tells us a bunch of lies The terrorist is the americans and israel.
yes, free Palestine
@@OneWorldGovernment2030-yv3zc i can confirm that they brainwashed your brain if you have one in the first place, even if they used babies as human shields (i dont know how a baby or any human can save you from a goddamn bomb) thats not an excuse to wipe them out all of them, the bad guys and the civilians, even in movies or video games if the bad guys holding civilians as hostages the hero doesn't wipe the shit out of them including civilians. but anyway israel want to wipe them out all of them hamas or no hamas, even if israel keeps lying the history doesn't, and history witnessed that israel has been the biggest evil since 1948 until now.
Absolutely @Farasyk, I don't know about the US, but in Europe, people have started seeing things more clearly. Maybe our media is more neutral? Many unfair crimes have now finally been exposed.
@@OneWorldGovernment2030-yv3zc nah
Couldn't finish it,so painful to see this injustice and evil acts.Hope God save the Palestinians and bring them PEACE.
The worst part is they're all living happy lives and doing well. The one chick shed crocidile tears for a second, but they're all doing great. The people they butchered will never come back to life. The women they raped and beat in those checkpoints will be scarred for life. That's what real PTSD looks like.
they would have peace if they stopped trying to genocide the Jewish people, but for that they would have to stop believing in their false god and prophet
@@Bathing824 everyone would get what he did in his life... No escape from judgement.. every soul would be accountable
Me too, I couldn´t finish to watch it. It´s too disgusting. These girls have no idea how disgusting they are!
They don't want peace
As a Palestinian I can tell you this is a very very very little of what Israelis have done to us since 1948 till this day war on Gaza. I doubt there’s any one of them who don’t have blood on their hands. At least these women admitted that they were doing wrong and you can tell they are paying for it. They are not leading normal lives. This is the most brutal occupation ever. One day the world would say where were we when all this horrific crimes and atrocities took place?! I always wonder how those who were once persecuted turn into vicious merciless murderers. To these women I say it’s never late and it’s always good to return to your humanity. I never thought I’d say the word forgive. But here I am I forgive To the girl with short hair who seems to me is hit the most. I found it in my heart to forgive you. Really.
My brother love from Afghanistan to you just don’t lose your faith on Allah
I'm sorry this has been happening to you and your people for so long and I was blind to it. My community told me lies my entire life-I'm an American Jew-and I did not know that until after October 2023. I have had to break away from the indoctrination, but I cannot forgive the people who are there and continue to allow this brutality to continue without doing everything they can to stop it. I won't stop talking about it until we see a FREE Palestine. Inshallah.
@@GabrielleNewberg Thank you so much. Love and respect.
As half Palestinian Croatian i feel you and i rember you in my prayer
❤
I would never stand by and watch someone hurt a child. I dont know how these people live with themselves
It's the whole system built around to hurt people. That's what military is, and that's why it is such a vile disgusting organization whereever it is. I did my service, thank god I was not in IDF or US army or any army that had to invade and terrorize people but still it gave me eternal burning impression of how terrible, terrible your usual men can be when they are among themselves. A couple of shining wisdom I met, who tought me not to be a bigot, god bless their souls, but most of them will become like what IDF is doing to Palestinians when the circumstances arrive before them.
As a soldier you would. Because there's orders.
Sure you wouldn't, in whatever peaceful, comfortable corner of the world you live in. You have no idea of the circumstances these soldiers were in. Armchair quarterbacking a war if you've never seen one in person is just silly.
Enjoy your couch while the real world happens.
@@frauleinanni1528 and that is why there must be hellfire in the hereafter for these crimenals . do they think they will get away with it? if they repent and seek fogiveness senceerly , islamicly , God is all forgiving.
As a muslim I would like to tell the girl with short hair. If you did something in the past which you despise so much. Please ask for forgiveness from God. He will forgive you if you are sincere. Don’t hurt yourself but do everything in your power to make it right. Be the good person you always wanted to be. You wanted to help people from the start. There is always forgiveness. I hope you’ll forgive yourself too
Beautiful words/advice 🕊
Wise words.
Dank je wel Amsterdamse pannekoek 😂❤. Maar zeker wanneer je jezelf niet kunt vergeven, kun je wel aan God/Allah vergeving vragen en voel je je beter door het doen van goede daden. Het helpen van de buren bijvoorbeeld.
muslims have far more love and forgiveness ...even for the enemy. jews there are completely evil beyond old testament style insane crazy brutal and hateful its 2023 they are in the bible still praying to moses, or a wall, or a beard , bush, or anything burning just crazy crazy and guess what..... america and our soldiers go die for the jews there to dominate the earth. GOD IS NOT JEWISH or israelite or hebrew wake up my beautiful earth please people of earth stop doing all this jewish lies
What God is that ? The one of baby killers of Hamas ?
I am a daughter of a camp surviver in WWII....people being experimented on, humiliation, permanent fear, hard labour, extreme food shortages, not knowing when this will end if it ever will, brutal guards, no way out.....Israel is this how yours were treated in WWII...
What have you become ?
They r doing to Palestinian what Hitler did to their ancestors in WW2
😢
Very evil and War Mongers
The most dangerous animal on this planet...is a human.
How long are people going to milk WW2? It's time to embrace a new reality that being, the horrors going on right now, as opposed to always calling back to things that happened almost 90 years ago.
if we don't remember the past we are condemned to repeat it. @@LH74
We are all human and whether we kill the enemies children or they kill our children,it's still deeply disturbing.Those brave young lady soldiers experience so much trauma in the army which will leave them scarred for life.When will humans stop being so barbaric?
Everybody feels sad over what these women experienced and the PTSD. But what about their victims feelings? The little boy beaten up with cigarettes put out on him. The man raped for making indecent gestures. The children that were innocent and didn't throw stones. The young boy that got killed etc. My mind is with them 😢. They are traumatized 10 times as much, since they are the ones who had to endure this and I'm sure most of them have PTSD also.😢
You try and bring that up these days and you will be labelled an "Antisemite" and will be told "Israel has the right to defend itself".
@Metamerist625 Sadly, that's true. Several known people who spoke up, got fired, boycotted or were called antisémites.
@@Metamerist625and please can you explain why everyone in the comments are saying is war when even international law calls it illegal occupation and oppression of Palestinians.
Both sides are victims. This is the tragedy in all conflicts.
I can only speak for myself, but I think that it is more than possible to feel awful both for the IDF soldiers that were brainwashed into doing horrific things to Palestinians for their government *and* for the Palestinians that have had to suffer at the hands of the Israeli, US, and UK governments via the IDF for decades. It's the same as feeling bad for the members of Hamas that were put in the position of thinking that the only way out of their material conditions is to brutally attack and kidnap Israelis while also feeling awful over what the members of the Kibbutz Be'eri had to endure earlier in October. Basically, everyone, both Israelis and Palestinians, is suffering because of a fascist government upheld and supported by the US and UK. Just because I believe Palestinians are victimised more by the Israeli government doesn't mean that I can't also think that Israelis are victims of their own government.
This needs to be shared more than the so-called news.
Well said! 👏
People God Loves us even that we most often reject Him that is why so much darkness is happening all around the world
God came among us , living our sorrows and hardships, was confronted with sin , and emerged victorious and clean ,holy for us on our place because we are not able ourselves and He loves us not wanting anyone to parish because the fallen state of the world ,rebellious against its Creator
He was hanged on the cross ✝️ for our sake to suffer death not wanting the spiritual death we are in to lead to to Judgement
Embrace JESUS Call upon GOD for Salvation for we are saved through Faith by Grace not according to our righteousness, so live holy as our GOD is Holy and Just
WHO gave HIS only Begotten SON , and by HIS Blood that was shed on The cross ✝️ of Calvary
That the judgement we deserved was laid on The Lamb Of GOD
So repent people -change your mind about God and believe in The Lord Jesus Christ, For
GOD Loves us so so much , just call to HIM and HE will answer you always in a way only you may understand to Glorify HIS Name 🎉🌇🌅✝️✝️🌌💒💙🕊🔥🌁
GOD bless you all Amen 🙏🏻
Sickening and inhumane. This is what happens when a class of people feel superior to another …. And it’s embedded all throughout their culture
Yes, Hamas Islamists HAVE to stop their far right supremacist attacks on a peaceful SOVEREIGN country immediately, to STOP all violence !
Without A IP AC operatives' corrupting the US politicians to finance & shield the a part he id st ate, these at ro cities & c rim es would not occur. What is going on today is an evolution of what is in this video & a testimony against a psychologically disturbed sick society; & I am not referring to the proud Palestinian people.
Fair enough. But here's a question: would you or I be any different if we were in that same situation?
@@sandia2beaumont That IS an extremely good question.. I do not think EITHER of us would actually BE "who" we are, IF we really WERE in that situation ; on EITHER side.
The parents of my best friend at Junior school had BOTH survived Auschwittz and Belsen. From what little THEY said, and the looks on their faces when remembering,, if I WERE a Jew, "Never again" would MEAN "NEVER again !" without ANY doubt.
I also have ex muslim friends now, one who still calls himself an Arab Israeli. From what they say, IF I had been born an Arab Muslim and been exposed to Al Aqsa TV programming and the often violent religious pressure, I have no doubt I would be Arab Israeli IF I had my CURRENT intelligence. BUT if I had been "groomed" along the lines of Majid Nawaz, OR not had the chance of an education, then I do think I WOULD have followed THAT path ? ? ?
BUT, I am VERY aware that "WHO" I am is a long accumulation and growth from ALL that I HAVE been exposed to, my education bringing me into close contact WITH pre Revolution Persians, Syrians, Lebanese, Arabs AS WELL as my own European "culture". WITHOUT any of that, I would NEVER have learned any Arabic, Farsi OR Hebrew to try to learn OUTSIDE my own culture ? ? I am not sure if THAT person would even BE a "me" that I recognise ? ?
Thank you for that question, you have sparked off loads of thoughts in my head
Please don't talk about Muslims that way.
The sad moment that you realise, you are not the hero of the story but the monster. Please share these testimonies need to be heard
They are up against a force that seeks to exterminate all jews from the planet. These people are not afraid to use their own people as human shields or rape and murder civilians
They are not monsters ,they served their country that's all
@@SRBOMBONICA86 Like them Germans, ammiryte..?
@@SRBOMBONICA86 so did the nazis think the same thing
@@SRBOMBONICA86world is nothing but a barren piece of land without humans and the irony is that humans kill each other over these pieces of land. Countries are nothing without humans and you kill others for somethinh you will be burried under
Imagine being given enough power to punish 80 people for just being arabs... Without any repercussions on you.... Just awful :(
At 19 years old no less.
And not only that. They don't want/have legal repercussions but they would also like to have no physical or moral repercussions. Un-fortunately Allah is just and everyone has to face his actions.
This is precisely what the naz1is did to the Jews 75 years ago. It would seem that these people used their collective memory as a training exercise.
But the repercussions are already taking their toll, and will be with them for the next 40 years, unless they take their own lives.
I think you have to ask most any warrior, from most any conflict and I am sure the vast majority have behaved abhorently...
Humanity needs to figure its own mechanism out so as to prevent war from happening.
There are those who are Awake and can tell it like it is, and there is never a need for an intermediary.
IFS therapy/paradigm is a good start to this end.
My dad fought in Vietnam and to say he came back f’ed up would be an understatement. He would wake us up at night screaming from the nightmares. He would have flashbacks and hide us under tables during loud thunderstorms thinking we were being bombed. As a little girl it was absolutely terrifying. War is a horrific thing.
So sorry to hear what your dad went through and the repercussions on all of you. May there be healing of memories for everyone traumatised by the horrors of war , directly and indirectly
My Mom dated an older veteran in 1968, he would wake up screaming at night and was a very sick alcoholic. He worked on the railroad, died when he was crushed when a box car was backed up. I don't really recall exact details. Heartbreaking how our men returned already destroyed, to face hate at home. I was 14, but never forgot Ray and his pain. God bless you and your Dad.
Sorry to hear about your dad but people that protested against that utterly pointless war were vilified and at one protest four were shot dead on campus.
@@johnlesoudeur3653that’s the reason all stopping from the mad war up moving nowhere
That's some very awful PTSD he had to deal with.
I'm utterly sick of anyone calling this a war. It's an occupying force with ALL of the power against humans with stones.
Exactly. It's soldiers provided with the latest state of the art weoponry against unarmed civilians, elderly, disabled, women and children. It's not a war, it's a one sided slaughter.
A few teens allegedly threw stones at tanks and they got arrested, tortured and executed. Two 8 year old boys touched a smart fence and they got arrested/kidnapped and were taken to Israel and held hostage.
I watched this and i do not understand. The jewish people went through this type of behavior for their entire history. They were marginalized, humiliated, tortured, their property, freedom was stolen.They went through the holocaust. And somehow they do not understand they do the same thing to another people. I think the young jewish people learn at school about holocaust but do they learn that is not ok to behave like this, and if they behave like this it means they learned nothing. And so the abused became the abuser.
Similar to what Hannah Arendt said in the 60ties, I wonder how long this madness will go on, while the world looks on, some even fund it and cheer it on.
Zionists aren't the true representation of Jews. Zionist Israel was created specifically to create conflict in the middle east with apartheid and ethnic cleansing, conflict in the middle east is exactly what the USA needs to maintain global hegemony over the oil trade. These people have just been born and indoctrinated into being pawns for an evil greedy regime, thousands of miles away...
They cry about Holocaust but they r doing the Exact same thing , They have Occupied Palestinian Civilians in the BIGGEST Open Air Prison in Modern history...they tortured kill humiliate civilians esp children and young men, even elderly and women
Very RACIST, these are Not HUMANE in nature at all, they have superiority Complex ( the Chosen ones) lol
All the World is a Stage
Funny how they feel sorry for them self now. Palestinian still go through hell by their hands.
They are telling their story yet with a smile.
They are evil.
They are ashamed, that is not a happy smile, it is a nervous smile, they will carry that guilt and shame for the rest of their lives
They live in a closed world where they are taught that everyone outside of their group is a subhuman monster. They don't have another point of reference.
Their minds are broken, it's the evil of zionism. I wouldn't be surprised if these people find it more difficult to heal compared to palestinians after everything the latter have been through. I say this as someone with a vast interest in psychology btw, not trying to be interesting.
Without A IP AC operatives' corrupting the US politicians to finance & shield the a part he id st ate, these at ro cities & c rim es would not occur. What is going on today is an evolution of what is in this video & a testimony against a psychologically disturbed sick society; & I am not referring to the proud Palestinian people.
The lack of EMPATHY is really disturbing. These testimonies are very telling!
i say we're dealing with a double empathy propblem here. It's very tellingly human.
It's a little difficult, I'm very focused, but far away from any kind of death or the scary comment section,
So I think I can tell it easy enough.
It is like parallel to the divergent people, autism specifically, they (we but im not legally diagnosed and whatever),
It turns out, they also have feelings !
and like others said, coping mechanisms, death, is not that straight forward. It is really hard to understand.
At least many parts of our goddamn cultures tell us to forgive
I think they all confess empathy...they all confess being put into a nearly impossible circumstance relative to maintaining empathy which war will do. Folks please take away from this, human beings are the same everywhere, don't get wrapped up in identity politics...I am certainly not justifying committing horrifying acts...but it is the nature of human nature to become this in those circumstances...which is why, amongst math and science etc. we should be thaught about peace and how to achieve it....and the simple formula for that is:
cooperation plus tolerance equals peace.
23:05 "Palestinians are running amok in the street, obviously because their houses were being bombed" Even SHE gets it! Palestinians don't just attack Israel for no reason, Israel wrongs them first!
I’m glad they each told their story, it’s not easy. But the lack of empathy for the innocent Palestinians they killed is gut wrenching. The commanders have zero hearts, the whole system is so messed up that they allow these young, immature people to join the army and it’s with one purpose in mind and that is due to the immaturity of these soldiers, they will commit crimes more easy and without any regard for a human life. The ones higher in command know that because of the young age of these soldiers, they will be able to mold them into the monsters they want them to be. This has been going on forever. And now this is all happening on a huge scale. Atrocities are being carried out against the innocent people of Palestine and the world is just watching. An absolute nightmare.
Meanwhile the Quran exalts them to kill all infidels...Palestinians are no victims...They should try teaching their children not to throw rocks at other people...They grow up to behead and burn babies...Israelis have to be vicious...Their war is not with humans...It's with vicious animals...Have you ever wondered why other muslim countries don't want them in their lands?...
@@ladyaly864 why did Israel lie about beheading babies?
Hitler all over again
Its truly heartbreaking😥The worst part is that they use the holocaust to defend these types of actions
I agree with you the barbarism here is heartbreaking and brutal but it’s bought on by radicals on both sides and other nations, blaming one side is counterproductive and not accurate, praying for both sides.
Here’s what I don’t get Every Israeli has served in the army and has seen all this and much more. How can they keep denying it at the same time?
Not everyone denies it. Many choose jail instead of serving in the idf. There’s many ex soldiers who quit and told their stories.
@@alsadat77it's very rare. The majority are complicit.
Because it's easier that way, just as it's easier to go along with the norms of your fellow soldiers rather than to stand up and do what you know is right.
I was in the Israeli army in the 1960s, before the occupation. I never saw or experienced these horrors. The country has changed immensely since then, for the worse.
watch this: Burning Conscience: Israeli Soldiers Speak Out
@@silgit
Than they blame Hamas , the f arrogance of these people is unmatched .
Hamas is part of the Muslim Brotherhood, please speak to Iranians about how much fun it has been to live under a Muslim Brotherhood regime.
Folks stop playing this identity politics...learn some IFS therapy paradigm as a good start and let's start understanding humanity instead of falling into the age old trap of tribalism, which is only going to perpetuate conflict and death games like this.
What these women are going through isn't simple PTSD, which you can get from any trauma, like a car accident or similar incidents. MORAL INJURY is what they are describing. When you grow up with a fixed set of beliefs about Right and Wrong and with the idea that you are one of the good guys, you have good values, etc., and Then you do something horrible or witness something being done and don't stop it, you hate yourself and it really screws you up. Why? Because you don't hate it at the time, it's too "normal" to hate, it's not until later that you come to realize that all those crazy things you did in combat were in fact Insane. Also while in Combat you are Super Alive, all your senses are heightened even your sense of feeling Alive is, you enjoy your food more your comradery (trauma bonding) is amazing, you often learn you are far more brave and capable than you expected, which makes you proud, etc. So there are there weird Good Things about combat, but it's all mixed in with the trauma. I shouldn't be enjoying any of this, right? But how can you not, when your body is flooded with endorphins and dopamine and adrenaline, etc? Do any of you know what that chemical cocktail does to the brain, it makes you crazy, but like all crazy people, you don't think you are crazy. And in fact you aren't crazy, that's the Normal reaction that a brain has to war. It's been well documented going back into antiquity.
To make matters worse half the people there seem to enjoy the insanity to it's fullest and when you come home from your deployment(s) you are told you are the greatest thing since sliced bread. Being told how great you are for violating every taboo you were ever taught screws with your head even more. War or Occupation takes place on Suspended Moral Ground. What's normal and right doesn't exist in war, wrong is right and right is wrong. How does your head deal with that concept? You either accept it and move on, learn to enjoy it and become twisted or you hate yourself and Society for condoning and even praising your behavior.
I fucking HATE being told "thank you for your service". Why on God's name would I ever want to be thanks for being their trained barbarian and what kind of special asshole does that make you? You will thank any soldier for their service, having no idea at all what they may have done or how guilty that soldier might feel inside for the stuff they did or the things they saw? Don't any of you understand what it is you are thanking me for? And by the way if a guy actually likes being thanked, chances are he or she, didn't do any of the actual fighting.
You people crafted a society where I was told I had ONE set of values that I needed to learn, and well it turns out there are TWO, one for war and one for the rest of the time and NONE of you acknowledge it and instead pretend like there is only one set of rules. You praise me for going out and taking part in mass murder AND behave morally superior to the people who we attacked and you can do so only because you had ME do your dirty work while you close your eyes to what it was you actually ask me to go do. By the way, why should I come back and respect any of your rules or your morality and how do I fit in among all these two faced liars who won't admit what it really was they sent me to do?
It took me decades to just Accept that It is What it is, I was lied to growing up, I thought we had one set of morals, now I accept that we don't and just allowed myself to move on. Was it my fault that I was lied to and that Adults actually accept two completely opposite values based on where and when they take place? Radical Acceptance Theory is the only therapy that ever helped me at all. It's just the idea of saying Fuck It, it is what it is. I did the best I could, I couldn't have done better than that nor should I ever have held myself up to standards that Society itself is lying about or in denial about.
You send kids off to war, where morality is forgotten, then you praise them for doing what has to be done, in this non-moral environment and wonder why they can't figure out which side is up anymore.
By the way, the effects of PTSD are markedly worse depending on how the person views the Morality of the Mission as well. When soldiers come to believe they are on the wrong side it creates MORE Moral Injury than if the war is truly just. If I had been fighting off invaders who were trying to kill my wife and children I highly doubt I would have suffered one tenth of the angst and trauma that I went through before finally learning to accept that I am after all only human.
These women were broken, but mostly it's their sense of right and wrong that was destroyed and they have yet to accept that we humans are NOT as moral as we believe, we have Morality that works in every day life and then we have the Dark Side that accepts the worst aspects of human nature as normal. And the civilians who support war love to hear about Rules of Engagement and all that feel good stuff because it lets them off the hook for sending their Son's and Daughters to do their dirty work for them. They get to pretend they are more moral than the soldiers and that it's only a few bad apples who make their beloved military look bad. They even cheer when a soldier will once in a while get in trouble for war crimes or for abusing prisoners etc. Again, that gives them the illusion that they are better than the War They Themselves Support. Those few bad apples become their own personal skapegoats and this allows them to feel their hands are clean as they send more young men women to do more dirty work.
thank you for this very insightful comment
thenx's for insight ...
It is not that I'm good or bad , it is what situation pull's out of me , I have potentional for two , and is up to us to embrace shadow in us. And try to be better,,, but be aware of circumstances , and sourandings , In wild west you are cowboy in order to survive , in civilization you are law abiding citizen in order to survive . when in ROME ...
we are not angels , but we can try if we are not in danger...
(only a human , only a animal ) .
take care for that little child inside you , if you don' t who will.
moral is construction so we don't kill each other , or to cooperate for bigger goal . (take religion for example.)
this woman are discovered that they are not so nice people .
ps. From Croatia with love
Thank you for sharing such powerful insights into the process and morality of war on soldiers civilians and society.
I can’t find the right words to answer you.
Educational and erudite. Profound.
I will think of your words, often.
@@charmainebaines-nk6dk You're welcome and thank you for the kind words.
Very, very wise words. I wish you all the best.
This is heart-breaking to see such level of inhumane behaviour of IDF to innocent Palestinian children and people and involving innocent young generation in all of this and destroying their moral compass.😢
It was heartbreaking to see Israeli children killed by hamas. War is hell all the way around. No human is completely right and when a bunch of them get together, they're usually completely wrong.
@@L_Jan_Turnerlol how many children killed by hamas, that was one children killed in the cross shooting and he was killed by the idf, and this attack it is natural reaction for decades of oppression, killing and stealing lands, what do you expect?? And stop lying and playing the role of the victim. They are the victim you're the oppressor
Typical response by a lying Zionist. No empathy for a people who welcomed Jewish refugees into Palestine and have been suffering a brutal occupation ever since.
All right thinking people of the world no longer buy Zionist cries of victimhood and claims of anti-Semetism to shut down any criticism of Israeli crimes
@@L_Jan_Turner@L_Jan_Turner's point is well noted, and you will agree that the whole world condemned the atrocities of Oct. 7. Please tell me if I am wrong; you lost 1200 Israelis (350-400) were military. Where are we now at 8000 children only? Or do you also think the UN, Amnesty, numerous credible NGOs, RED CROSS, RED CRESCENT, yada yada yada yada yada yadFFS, the POPE CALLED NETANYAHU A TERRORIST.
OCT. 7. WAS. ONE. DAY
OCT. 7. TILL. NOW. RABID. ZIONIST. TERRORIST. SETTLERS. HAVE. KILLED. 400. JUST. IN. THE. WEST. BANK.
WTF ARE THEY DOING IN THE WEST BANK? You are part of Bibi's ideology, so you will support the death of 10000 children blindly.
WK#.7. OF CARPET BOMBING = 20000 DEAD PALESTINIANS (50% min. children) then women. Not to count the ones still under the rubble, which will take ages to uncover....bones by the time they can get to them after Israel's 7th attempt at seizing GAZA.
AND DON'T GET LOST IN ALL THE CONFUSION THAT ZIONIST PROPAGANDA LIKES CAUSE. THERE IS NOTHING COMPLICATED; ISRAELIS ARE OCCUPIERS. CAN YOU GRASP THE FACT THAT AN OCCUPIER CANNOT CLAIM SELF-DEFENSE. WTF KIND OF WORLD ARE Y'ALL living.....
WE HAVE HAD WORSE OCCUPIERS IN HISTORY THAN ZIONISTS, BUT NEVER HAVE WE HAD AN OCCUPIER WHO HAD THE GULL TO WHINE AND CRY TO PORTRAY ITSELF AS THE VICTIM. THIS WAS LEARNED RIGHT AFTER SOUTH AFRICAN APARTHEID WAS DISMANTLED.
Secondly, do you REALLY THINK the coward IDFS WOULD SEND IN SPECIAL OPS INTO THE KIBBUTZ TO LIBERATE IT FROM HAMAS? THE IDF IS EXTREMELY INCOMPETENT WHEN IT COMES TO URBAN COMBAT & WARFARE. HENCE THEIR EXCUSE FOR CARPET BOMBING EXCUSES OF HUMAN SHIELDS...FUNNY....WONDER IF THEY DO THE SAME WITH ISREALI BEING USED AS HUMAN SHIELDS...
Oops, wait, they didn't even care about their own hostages or the folks that poor Civilians the IDF killed while shooting HELLFIRE MISSILES, which may soon be considered a war crime to use....but nothing new for IOF who use Phosphorous on children like no tomorrow, because they not they cannot win a conventional war against Hamas....imagine they want to start a war with Iran, Israel will be the second country in the world to drop a nuke on a city......mark my word for it.
EVERY SINGLE WORD OF THE FOUNDERS OF ISRAEL IS DOCUMENTED AND EASILY ACCESSIBLE.
GO READ THEM TO SEE WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT THE GOYEM, REMOVING THE ARABS, DRIVING OUT THE ARABS, RENAMING THEIR VILLAGES, THAT COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT PROVED EFFECTIVE, that the map of Israel in 1948 was drawn by British mandate. But the Jewish people have another map in mind, which the youth & adults must strive for: "From the Nile to the Euphrates" Ben-Gurion - Founder & Father of Israel.
When asked by one of his generals what plan he had for the Arabs, he waved his hand in a way, gesturing to drive them out.
GO EDUCATE YOURSELF BEFORE YOU COME ON HERE AND BUST WHATABOUTISM ONLY TO MAKE YOURSELF DUMB.
OCT 7th WAS 1 DAY.
WE ARE NOW IN WEEK SEVEN OF KILLING CLOSE TO 180 children a day; how are people like you brainwashed to accept that? What kind of God promises you land, but you have to first eradicate the natives, kill and take their land...
I am outta here.
Hamas is the result of 70+ years of constant violence.
But my que is where does the hate and prutality of Israel come from.
This is the tip of iceberg. 😮
One of her friend died and she got sooo angry. But she never thinks of the palestinians when often times more than 10 of their families get killed at once. But noo only their feelings that matter and the palestinians shouldnt have feelings.
What comforts me is the fact that even if they were not made to answer for their mistakes, they will forever be haunted by guilt or whatever it is they’re feeling. One of the hardest battles to fight is the fight against one’s self, and that’s what’s going on with them. Somehow I see that as justice served.
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These are people that grew up with constant bombing and sirens to take shelter, everyone around them hates them for who they are and literally puts in there charters that they want them dead, after that they get to release all that anger and fear in the army, it's a wonder they are only this misguided. You know in israel you are bound to do army duty even women? There is no escaping following orders, so they had no choice. If that comforts you, you're a little sick in the head yourself.
Very true. They will never live peacful life forever
How justice is served when these young female soldiers are marred for life and their leaders the likes of Netanyahu live with themselves and hear their cries for help.
Except ultimately it's the state that's to blame, and gets away with everything. Hopefully not for much longer.
Sad thing is, it's boys who have had cigarettes put out on them that then grow up to do things like we saw on the 7th October.
Burrying the truth might solve one problem, but only escalates another much bigger one.
Isra*l is APARTHEID and a War CRIMINAL since 60years
I’m fed up of being in the firing line because my government supports such autrocities…. Why should we support this sort of barbarism
@@wickedgame100 Protest against your Government! Say it loud and proud: NOT IN MY NAME!!!
Nobody in Western society likes to talk about this. We are tuned to see it differently. Centuries of blowback.
And attacks and atrocities against Israel caused those soldiers to even be there to begin with.. You're right it is sad.. it's sad that "palastinians" (arabs) can't behave civilized and build and grow instead they focus on death and waging war against the jewish state. Billions and billions of dollars in aid and relief since the establishment of the fake oand of Palestine and they have used every last penny to wage war against their neighbor... this began even before the 6 day war... it is what caused the 6 day war... people should really educate themselves on the facts of this conflict and point the finger at the one freaking group of people that refuse to be a decent civilization. They have shat on every opportunity given to them, bitten every hand that has been held out to them in help and solidarity..they have betrayed every single group of people that have ever tried to do anything for them... this is why no one in the middle east will take them in... only throw money at them... this is why no palastenian is allowed to be a citizen in ANY Arab country... you do not find that in Israel, where arabs and palastenians are in government and even live in Israel. There is no illegal occupation, never was, never will be...the land was LEGALLY BOUGHT from people who LEGALLY OWNED said land...the fact that the liar palastinians have convinced people of their rewritten history is astounding... these people are brainwashed from birth... I'm so sick of people ignoring facts and only going with unregulated feelings not based in reality or logic at all.
I have recently had a baby girl
All this is so sad the poor Palestinian people we all need to stand up to our governments supporting this war Palestinians deserve thier own country too. The British government has a lot to answer for.
Why always blame the British?
@@thinktankcritic5267cuz they handed Palestine to Israelis in 1930
@@VeMa52 it was agreed amongst many nations at the time after the holocaust and WW2! Why only britz get the blame? Plus todays government has nothing to do with it. Where were the Arabs in all of this? Why did they agree? If you want to blame someone blame Hitler
It was actually after WW2, they promised the Jews a country it happened to be Palestine in 1947 then they stood by and watched while Palestinians where being exiled out of their homes at gun point by the Jews. I'm British by the way I just know my history.
@@nikolatino4656It is obvious that you do not know the history of your country well. What about The Balfour Declaration?
And they call this the only democracy in the middle East 🙄
May The souls of those killed by their actions haunt them
I expected more empathy to the victims and these soldiers seem sad for selfish reasons. Great documentary
@@amiejobe8013 that is a human coping mechanism for some people... It is not that she thinks it is funny but she herself can´t handle what happened...
@@Illuminatus5 I understand but they could have chosen to opt out at some point. It’s not like they were clueless about the brutality the other side faces.
Meytal seems the most regretful out of them all.
You do not understand. You've never experienced insanity@@amiejobe8013
I don't think so.
It's something inside them that is dead... It's like she said, she can't wash the blood off... She knows what is haunting her...
She knows the evil she did, and she will never be whole agsin
PTSD... You see this in Veitnam vets.....
All for a cause to serve money lenders, military complex and corrupt politicians.... You sacrifice your sons and daughters soul to make bankers rich???
They are definitely sad and repentant. Maybe they didn't empathize in a certain obvious way, someone mentioned different coping mechanisms. But I feel they are being honest. Deeply moved I am
What those young women describe: "We could do with them whatever we liked" is exactly, what Palestinians experienece since decades in the occupied territories. The feeling of having no right whatsoever and to be totally at the mercy of your oppressors makes yone aggressive and do terrible things. The brutal israeli occupation of the Westbank and East Jerusalem kills every bright future for Israel. One cannot live in peace and security and at the same time oppress another people. Either Israel learns that lesson very soon or will dissappear soon.
Occupation? There are no Israelis in Gaza. No military, no civilians, No jews. 10K jews were relocated from Gaza almost 20 y. ago. Several times Arab countries attacked Israel. Not to free anyone. To destroy -erase the state. Every time Israel won defensive wars ! Winning war =winning territory. And several time they gave land back - to attackers, for peace.
"no rights whatsoever" ?
President of a major Israeli Bank is Palestinian. There are Palestinians in Knesset (parliament) Supreme Court judge is Palestinian. Arabs can live and work in Israel. How many jews live in Arab countries?
"oppression makes young aggressive and do terrible things." Gandhi would disagree. There are many oppressed nations around the world and they don't do terrible things. It's hatred. Rejecting coexistence. TV, books, schools...are teaching children to hate. From kindergarten children are singing songs about killing jews.
"They can do whatever they like" ?
Atrocities happen in every war. But there are Israeli soldiers in prison - for doing whatever they liked. On the other side they are rewarded and celebrated for killing women and children.
So true
Amen ... extremely sad truth ,shalom then add to that that blinken and Kushner have apparently a BUISNESS perspective in building in stolen lands so complex
Israel isn’t going anywhere, despite how you may feel about the current conflicts.
@@chaoselemental6759We'll see
So the kids tied up and blindfolded even if they did throw rocks looks like a normal situation for her ? WTF?
Right?!
a nation of people not only partake in oppression and humiliation of Palestinian but involve their woman in it too
This film gave me a real sense of the horrors the Palestinians are being forced to live with by the Israeli government and military. The revelation of the atrocities committed by the Israeli army on the Palestinian people, as told by these young women of the army, is a powerful, gut wrenching truth. My heart goes out to these brave women speaking out in this film. The actions of the men in this film sickened me with terror. Who are the real terrorists?
@DeDeMa999: Excellent question and we know the answer.
What is the answer?
Eye per Eye Tooth per Tooth that is the Jewish LAW
@@carolinatorres4740 Israel lies and plays both sides. This is a manufactured conflict as per usual.
@@carolinatorres4740 and it leaces everyone blind and toothless.
At this point in time, it is no longer eye for eye.. but everyone for one.
And it is zionist law, not jewish.
Imagine what the Palestinians go through. You can't. That's an absolute nightmare you could never handle.
@6:48 Palestinians don't have guns. She was afraid of rocks and getting shot by her fellow soldiers.
Rocks can kill
Imagine taking over another people's lands/home, and then going out of your way to make their lives even more miserable.
If this was in 2006 imagine the situation now😢
This is one of the most powerful films I've ever seen. We must stop people from hurting each other deliberately, through war or child abuse or anything so horrible. We must learn to stop people peacefully and with love. Thank-you to these women for their brave honesty and to all who helped to make this film.
people dont realize that people who are rulling and make desicions are all Satanist in origin
..whithout morals and empathy!!!
It's okay though. Israelis, and their diaspora, generally prefer manipulating other people groups into killing one another, especially for their own personal security or profit related causes. This works out much better, because the rest of our lives have far less value than theirs, as we are classified much like livestock(goyim), in their eyes. After all, the rest of us were born without souls and we were only created for the sole purpose of obediently serving their superior needs.
I was ignorant of my life's purpose in my youth, but thankfully, I learned all of this when I finally consulted their religious texts and spoke to their most pious religious leaders. Thank goodness, I now understand how utterly insignificant my existence is when compared to these far superior people. I'm now very willing and happy to sacrifice my children's lives to any whim these great people see necessary. It would be an honor to sacrifice the future of every last one of my people, if we can prevent even ONE of these most valuable of all humans from having their feelings slightly hurt in any way. Actually, the rest of us aren't really "human" anyway, as their religious laws make very clear. I apologize if I appeared to be comparing my valueless beast-people to these most godly of supreme beings. Please forgive my embarrassingly ignorant goyish error.
It's time to stop the lies
Regular people aren't the problem. It's the psychopaths, sociopaths and narcissists of the world that commit most of the world's suffering. What us normal people need to do is to CALL these people out for what they are and put a stop to the suffering THEY cause in the world abroad. Unfortunately, as we all know that C-level executive positions attract an exponentially higher percentage of these abnormal personality types, well, so does any other large organization - especially the governments of the world (including terrorist organizations and everything else in between).
If we keep giving suspect people the benefit of the doubt, or allow ourselves to be led astray by charismatic leaders, or even by those who fulfil our own confirmation bias (see politics), then the evils of the world will continue to flourish. It's up to the citizens of the world to practice critical thinking and have the willingness to entertain different ways of thinking and to stop assuming that the world is as it's shown to us (such as with the news, political speeches, etc. - even the things we believe in our own heads).
Due to the evil in every mans heart, wars will never end; it is called sin. Selfishness! Pride in our self, our family, our country...
just imagine someone accidentally knocks you over in a car;
you get angry and offended; you want fairness, justice, compensation, you become bitter, you want revenge; or think of your husband divorcing you for another woman; hurt self/pride.
PRIDE IS THE ROOT SIN.
ISLAM does not forgive or show mercy in its book/prophet ----- but CHRIST and Bible does command forgiveness and mercy from his followers [nay the whole world]
- Christ was that example on the cross. Seek and you will find, if u too believe in mercy and forgiveness; it starts with us, our own heart - not them;
the buck stops with me.
training people to be cruel is cruelty itself. I notice none of them expressed remorse
Che Guevara was a bit of a sadist. Didn't you say that?
@@ID-8491nope
@@kdark6309 He was. Played a game with a gun, threatening prisoners.
Thats the Zionist way
I believe they struggled with remorse because they experience pain and suffering because of the abuse and injustices they perpetrated. They just can't get over it and that's a sign they understand what they did was wrong and they are sorry. I see their eyes and the eyes tell all.
The experiences these women/girls went through is NOT war. The horrors they committed were from an illegal occupation of Palestinian territories by IDF. I cried listening to their stories. They will be haunted for the rest of their lives. "During his time in office, Qatar, at Israel's request, transferred billions of dollars in cash to Hamas in Gaza. This allowed Hamas to fund a military buildup - mainly its rockets and expansive tunnel system, Israeli officials now acknowledge."
Yeah, now picture an ENTIRE generation that has been through this. And ENTIRE CULTURE that has been shaped by this. And now you understand that the genocide that is happening now is happening because these people can no longer feel. They're not all there.
@@seguefischlin2 generations
The tunnels made under Al Shifa hospital is by IDF. Their former servicemen agreed
I agree with your first part of your comment but leave hamas alone. They are victims of these Wenches
And why not? Why should they have been forced to fight with their hands behind their backs?
Only empathy for themselves.....not one mention of the families of the victims, or the people they murdered....just self loathing, which they've been carrying around since they came out of the caucaisians!...
Is this how humans become monsters? Is this what the occupation had achieved? Shame
Yes In Wars ALL CAN HAPPEN THE RELEASE OF THE WORST IN US BY FEAR. "We are only Yu following orders" and sexually abusing a dead young Palestinian and taking a picture with a dead having an erection? They had FUN and no respect for a Himan Being who had a Mother, a Family ....YES UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS WE BECOME MONSTERS NOT Animals we would never achieve their level of Peaceful Existence.
Yes , that is why this is mandatory for ALL Israeli citizens.
They ALL need to serve their tours in the IDF. It is not optional.
One thing is clear, none of them verbalised that what they did was wrong. We're supposed to assume from their teary faces/ nervous/psycho laughter that they regret what they did. That is not enough when you think of the power they were given over human life and what they did with it. It is not enough when you think about their victims and their families and what they've gone through! What comes across in this is 'sure the Palestinians are being mistreated but look at the 'poor occupation forces' and what they're going through too!' Again, making themselves the victims of their own aggression! This system is part of Israeli society so they all know what they sign up for. What they now go through is being mentally disturbed by the atrocities they inflicted upon the Palestinians. But again, there's no real solid sense of sympathy for those who were the true victims in all this.
I totally agree
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Why would they feel sympathy ,do Muslims feel sympathy for non Muslims?
If they are horrified at what they did, imagine how horrified the Palestinians it was done to!
Yet they are still surprised why palestinian resistance exists in the first place
Powerful film. Thank you to all who spoke out and those who created the film. Watching post October 2023 and easy to see how Israeli/ Palestinian conflict has gotten to this point. 😢
Israel puts ALL their citizens through this.
their entire nation is suffering from PTSD , from their tours where they were part of the oppressing force.
its never be a conflict. it occupation, oppression. and now g3noc1de. keep in mind that
@@mochamadmulki7615 it never was a conflict. The Arab countries attacked Israel first in 1948, 1967 and 1973. The Palestinians have never accepted any land for peace deals and never any two-state solution. Hamas wants to obliterate Israel; it’s in their charter. They sacrifice their own people to keep war going.
This is not Israel/Palestine conflict. It's a horrific genocide. Satanic rituals. the devil's work. When will people start using the correct description for this devilish colonization?
I am watching it too due to the events in Gaza.
I feel so sorry for tbat young women. How can they even decide to raise kids when their kids might have to face the same prospect 18 years later?
When you do harm to others, you are harmed with them, and worse.
Called Karma.
The subtitles ate not adequate--- she's saying and describing and explaining A LOT MORE than is written here .
I think these recent events have changed most of us on a very deep level, forever.
What about the childhood of hundreds of thousands of children who grew up seeing, on daily basis, homes being raided, parents, brothers, sister and peers being beat-up, arrested and shot down? Any thought the level of trauma they would have grown up with? Or it doesn't matter as much? As we speak, there are hundreds of Palestinian minors being imprisoned, some of them in solitary cells, without recourse to fair court proceedings. The same goes for women who get picked up for speaking up against the apartheid regime and then beat-up and raped. Free Palestine!
Throughout the documentary did they ever straight out condemn the action of the army? they just cried about how they felt, so self centred and out of touch with reality it's crazy. Then these soldiers who murder children and shoot at them or imprison them for throwing rocks or giving dirty looks go on to be mothers and live a life away from war. While the Palestinians live out their whole life under military occupation and oppression! its not a two years period for the Palestinian people like it is for these soldiers, it is a life sentence.
I absolutely agree. I was disgusted by this documentary.
It sounds to me that you've completely missed the point of the documentary. War is just destruction, misery, despair for everyone who is intimately involved with it. It sounds to me like you're just rooting for the war to continue. The only way to end the cycle of destruction is rise above fear and hatred.
And they wonder why some become radicals
I was amazed about the girl who was stared at by the guy in red shorts.
When her soldiers buddies came back, she and her buddies took the guy into an alley and abused him.
All for staring at her?
What kind of sick behavior is that.
She's at that moment worse than that guy.
And they all seem to be powertripping in being a soldier . Having power over those people.
Justice goes both ways.
The problem is that both sides show extremist behavior.
No. Both sides dont show similar crimes. Ur moral compass is obviously broken
@@juanzulu1318u gotta be kidding me
@@Hippobottomless no. Kidding is the one who wrote the inital comment.
Exactly🤨
Never do anything against your conscience- being in any army is not relevant. Ignore orders that are immoral. Protect your soul.
Indeed.
Exactly. The IDF is the same as any other army. You can refuse orders which amount to war crimes, especially, murder.
You have never served in an army, right?
@@frauleinanni1528 right? :) armchair moralist. very easy to be one.
@@gilaprimak7554 just speak for yourself, dear.
This video is recorded in 2007 , it has been 16 years imagine what these people have done to Palestinians, horrible
The racisim and Apartheid mentality is unbelievable
And believable.
@@user-yl1sm3pd1c good u agree .
Imagine the conditioning they went through before they joined, the indoctrination that kept it going and made it seem ok.
@@spacecowboy13b you shall not lie. (ten commandments read out loud by moses )
It's believable because it's happening. The Zionists have a supremacist mentality, so being equal with a muslim, deemed "animals", won't happen anytime soon. They are, like the nazi's, "Uber Alles" or "above all". There is a huge chasm and disrespect between being Israeli as occupiers and Palestinian as host country. It seems they started into to right away back in 1947, declared themselves a sovereign state in 1948, and expelled the muslims from their lands. The ones that stayed have been harassed and humiliated and killed without mercy. These young girls chronicle that they had sniper killed, then had to clean up the bodies to suit the narrative of their superiors.
That's certainly not affording their neighbours the same rights they enjoy themselves, by patroling, they enforce their rules upon them.
I'm appalled and the big question here is why haven't we seen all this on main Stream media?? It seems they are guilty for covering up regarding crimes against humanity just as much as Israeli authorities. I'm appalled and disgusted 😡😡
The mainstream media is one of the very worst enemies of humanity. You are correct, and it is even worse than you think. The mainstream media has been actively covering up the very worst crimes ever committed, which have all been committed by 'governments'. This means that the mainstream media has always been active willing accomplices in the very worst crimes ever committed! They are just as guilty as those that dropped the bombs and those that pulled the triggers.
they're still doing it right now with the on going genocide covering up bombings muders and killing their own civilians but pinning it on others its disgusting how theyve been brain washed and compelled to do such inhumane things. Palestinians and Israelis need to be set free from the terrorists sat incharge of Israel how are they allowed to get away with ruining so many lives
Youth Abuse by their gov't
You are not alone.
They owned mainstream media. That is why taxes are so high
why do they keep smiling while telling these horror stories? it's truly unsettling
only sick people smile when telling this kind of stuff
Yes, that's the first thing a really noticed too. I am shocked they can smile at all after the things they did. Only the one with short hair, (who looks like a boy) looked a little bit remorseful.
Remember, God never forgets”.
@@VaughanMcCue God's around. He's been working on it quietly for some time now, 75 years. Watch this space!
u can see the pain in their eyes, what eats at their soul and doesn't let them have any mental peace.
So much injustice for Palestinen and the sad thing is that no one is doing nothing to help them
The world is more roused over it than ever.. protest for Palestinians increases.
I am a clinical psychologist and have treated PTSD in war veterans, but all were male. It is very very hard on the vets...this is an incredibly powerful documentary.....To see these young women in the midst of retelling their traumas is breathstopping at points. I dont know how it got filmed.
oh the poor IDF occupiers. did you stop and think for a second what it's like for their victims?
It was filmed because the truth will always find a way to express itself....Praise YAH/GOD!
@@christopherneufelt8971 your point on what, is forced upon the IDF is quite clear however lets not forget to mention what were the reason for the stress "abuse of Palestinian Kids" or did i misunderstand the content of this presentation, not doing so is un-Jewish
@@Professional_CZcams_Commenter As a soldier you are brainwashed into hating and what we must take out of this is the IDF soldiers is seeing it for themselves, and the world is not going to allow this to continue, if our governments fail than , we humans have been on the planet long enough, as to how to respond next without violence.
Courage! That’s how the truth is revealed
You always have a choice between right or wrong. Humanity.😢
and they all choose survival over "right" and "humanity"
most people do !
@@avibhagan I can't see really life or death situations here...
Because you weren't listening. Come forward and be ostracized. And what else might follow since that was straight from the Commanders.
@@richarddobbins183 war criminals said in WW2 that everything was command...
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Those people can’t be normal human being period, what shocking and sickening 😮
@@InTheShadowsOfOnesAndZerosare you referring to the one with a green shirt and blonde hair? I hated her. I feel sorry for the other ones.
They killed children, and yet they are cosumed only by the self damage caused by their crimes. They are not remoarceful.
@@Zina308 some kind of are. One or a few aren't. One girl hasn't even dated, and she should be having fun with other people or dating. Probably before she dates, she's looking at dead bodies, then says something, that should be about a date, not a dead body. What would otherwise be normal to interaction with someone whose doing ok, isn't bc she's dealing with dead bodies instead.
It is sad to see how, during their army service, they have been transformed into monsters, and their punishment is that they have to live with their haunting memories for the rest of their lives. It's even more sad to think of the innocent Palestinian people and children who are killed inhumanely, and those who are alive have to live with this fear every day. For 75 years, they have had to endure this horrific treatment. It is beyond any human comprehension!
These women and men were SO YOUNG; just out of school and with NO experience of War. YET they are EXPOSED to so much EMOTIONS and EVIL to deal with !! Oh sweet LORD, God of Mercies, WHAT HAVE WE DONE TO THE YOUNG boys and girls ?? May The LORD YHVH Forgive ALL of us ! We are ALL GUILTY !
They ARE the evil occupying force. Don't forget, there are christian Palestinians too if that helps with your flawed conscience.
All sorrow, death, tears and pain will end when Yeshua Hamashiach returns!
Sorrow, tears and pain Will be alleviated when we start loving each other, and treating each other the way Jesus, Buddha, Confucius taught us to. Death? There isn’t thing one any of us can do about that. Until then we will continue to be the mindless heartless animals that we are. eradicate, hate and intolerance. Then perhaps we might stand a chance.
@@bmon4095Yes..
Peace ☮️❤☮️
They're part of the Evil, which is the apartheid forces of Israel.
Amazing! Thank you Tamar Yaron for making this documentary!
identical video from American soldiers after the Iraq and Afghanistan war is available on CZcams. Instead of commenting on their issues that they faced, I will comment from my side...As a South African. If I were to hear an Apartheid soldier speak about his difficulties about all the children, women and men he slaughtered and abused, I would not empathise. I wouldn't be able to because many of my people went through extreme torment by that evil regime and it would anger me to entertain his grievances. If I needed to know about PTSD, I would ask the victim's family members how they are dealing with their losses. Because they really suffered. Not the Apartheid Soldier.
Someone tell me what's wrong with them? Putting a song instead of prayer is funny ? WTF?
The conflict is devastating, on one hand you see a baby killed by the enemy ,and on the other hand you want to comfort the enemy's baby crying. May God heal these tormented souls on both sides. Really heartbreaking, tere are no winners in a war.
Well, the arms dealers and those in league with them in governments are the winners.
They have no soul, so they only care about power and money
I thought they were going to talk about the sexual harassment and rape in the israeli army.
It is very simple, all it takes is for fanatics in Israel to establish an independent Palestinian state and all conflicts will end. But Jews must have conflicts, it is their innate instinct. If it is too quiet, they will start a conflict and shout anti-Semitism.
There are no winners in a war where cannon fodder soldiers and innocent civilians suffer and/or die in the service of their leaders for their ambition or folly or for conflicting causes with the enemy. There is no such thing as eternal absolute truths of any religion or ideology. Peaceful coexistence should be humankind's objective.
You are correct. No nation, nor group of humanity are ever the winners of any war. Sadly, the only winners of every war are those that finance wars and sell the weapons and other tools of war.
It's really strange at some of the most emotional confessions where you would expect them to cry, they laugh. 😮 Seems like there's no empathy. Even mocking Palestinians faith by playing music from mosque 😮. 10:16. 20:30. 33:21 34:02 33:43 34:55 20:32 53:15 53:45
Yeah, thought so too. But it seems to be a nervous laughter to me. I think it's part of their own trauma.
@frauleinanni1528 Some laughs at the beginning seemed nervous to me and some not. The one blond girl has that, but the with others it doesn't seem that way. Because sometimes she smiles about something she thinks is funny or when she tells about something. For instant when she told it was just a little boy, she shot. I don't know, but it also comes across as some psychopath trades. Like some serial killers or rapists smile when they talk about their victims or deeds. Like they are proud about it, or even get aroused by it. To me, it looked like she did really like the power she had. She didn't seem really remorseful. Only the woman with the short hair who looked like a boy, seemed really remorseful and aware of what she did. At one moment when she tells about the photograph with the corpse, you can see the disgust for her own action, on her face. The others didn't seem remorseful at all to me, but that's just my opinion. Because none of them cried or was teary eyed, when telling about these horrible things. Also none of them apologized to the victims or said much about how wrong some of the things they did were. Me personally, I would take this opportunity to express my sincere regret and apologies. Or if I felt really bad about things I did, I would try to make things better. For example: help Palestinians in prison or complain about human violations carried out by IDF. Or write a letter to my victims with some kind of apology, even if that wouldn't undo the harm. It's almost like knowing what they know now, they would still do the same things in the same situation.
What they had done and still doing is totally inhumane..may they never find peace and live with regrets all their life
I'm only 11 minutes into this video and I am absolutely disgusted. These people have absolute power trips and they love it 😢
And there are the soldiers in whose hands the safety of citizens is deposited? The mind boggles.
Child soldiers, really.
No, they are there *only* for the safety of the illegal Jewish/ Israeli settlers in the illegally occupied Palestinian territories. They aren't required to intervene to protect the Palestinian people they are illegally occupying. Perhaps there are a good few soldiers, but the majority of their interactions with Palestinians are to humiliate them, break their sprit, facilitate the settler of farms and homes by illegal settlers etc. Check out ex-IDF servicemen/women speaking out - Breaking The Silence.
Brutally honest, brutally necessary - to show and understand that everyone is able to do horrible things in horrible situations.
War does not have any real winners, it only leaves behind victims on all sides.
Ah a truer thing was never said and you got not one up..people cannot comprehend....Sybil Francis PhD
I agree. It also goes to show, that the beginning of this conflict was not October seventh. I just wish the west had called out Israel decades ago.
Not saying Hamas is innocent, but for f**** s***, the IDF were terrorists.
@@peace-now Your position is one of the contributing factors of endless misery and destruction all over the world. As far as i can tell, all you're saying is that you're not going to listen, you refuse to understand. This is the essence of war, destruction, despair.
How are these girls the victims? Please explain.
@@mattiamele3015how are they not also victims??
Considering they’re forced at the young age of 18 to enlist??
What other choice do they have?
what's disturbing to me is that these women were adolescents basically, not fully grown adults given an immense amount of power and responsibility of which they didn't understand the full scale and life and death implications. it feels so disturbing to watch, shows how casual and banal evil can be... and I can't imagine how traumatic it is when their conscience allows them to feel guilt and shame and to live with that everyday. None of this needed to happen....
Meytal Sandler has a very sensitive soul. I can tell. She is really struggling with her concious even though her actual guilt should be a lot less then the other young women in this documentary.
Really cruel people!
If you were in their shoes, would you be brave and strong enough to not be cruel? Even as your 18 year old self?
@@szaszm_ YES. Some soldiers refuse to serve and choose to go to jail or leave the whole country and never come back. After all, many of them are new immigrants to the country that they say is theirs.
A drop from the sea of truth, there is much more much worse and more terrifying
....and finally she said "How in the hell did I ever think I could forget about it". The lifelong legacy of being a member of the IOF.
It's a miracle that anyone in a war zone or the army can retain their humanity or sanity
Many can't.
maybe they don't
Power-mad old men care NOTHING about the young people they send to war to be traumatized, wounded or killed. It's an old. disgusting human story, told over decades and centuries...
Most don’t and their government disposes of them afterwards. It’s sick.
we don't! We become functional sociopaths!
All humanity is lost in war.😢
I love these Israeli women they look very beautiful and they have great butts
Sadly it is the only way to survive sometimes
True! You become like a wild animal to survive in your environment and to whatever means that that takes. You bond deeply with your fellow soldiers. A bond to the death if necessary.
Dang Hamas terrorist!
@@ruthietaylor8756 I mean you can always give the Palestinians their own country and be done with this war, or just give the land back and find another place to reside ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Ultimately this war serves no purposes, just piling victims, so negotiation with good faith to give the Palestinians a good outcome in exchange for completely isolated countries...the hatred just runs way too deep for the 2 to ever have normal relationship ever again
44:42 Standford experiment at it's finest...she was upset because someone under her occupation showed a finger to her so she treated him like a criminal who just killed 1000 civilians and abused him like a 1700 barbarian...all this because she had some "power". Such a "brave" soldier. And to have the courage to cry victimhood...these people have no shame or soul. And then they wonder why no one wants them around.
they'll never show this in UK, i wonder why
This should be shown at schools everywhere in the world.
Why?
@@chashmal10 wye ?? cuz the western media lies and only shows some lies with the help of isreal and brainwash people
So the world finally wakes the f up to the crimes of Jewish terrorists. @@chashmal10
12:50 that story about the boy and how the soldiers beat him and put cigaretts on him, that reminded me of those psychological experiments where you put people into positions of power, one being the jailors the others the prisoners. Whoever gets power and is not reminded and also punished for abuse, will abuse their power.
Further in now, all these women are having PTSD themselves and have abused their power one way or another, knowing that and therefor feeling guilty and ashamed. What a nightmare. That they speak about this openly ... . I propably couldn't.
How many more of these stories are currently created?
It was called the Stanford Prison Experiment and there's a ton of discourse around it available.
at 44:42 I literally had the same thought
If this isnt terrorizing than what is it? My God it has always been there! Some of it available online for such long time and we are only now seeing through our eyes!! So, the world is right, the large rallies are actually in favour of the innocent, Is^eal is truly a xterror|st state 😢
They looks proud not guilty
Fun fact: This video is blocked in Israel
I bet, the first thought I had was for these girls safety.
that is a good point.
Democracy 🤥😈😈🐍
Yeah, there's "Breaking the silence", IDF vets speaking publicly about bad things happening in the occupied areas and they are referred to as liars by the government. Anyway, if the numbers of non-serving orthodox youth increases there might be a lack of serving people in, uhm, 50 years. If Israel exists this long.
let's see. just sent it to my cousin. how do you know?
One man fighting for his home is worth ten conscripts.
okay robin hood
It takes a strong, humble, and virtuous person not to abuse power at all. And if most abuse it at least a little, some will abuse it to the extent they can get away with it. So very sad.
And all of these on this doc. abused that power.
and they were all dumb kids. @@martynflynn8368
How can any man sit back and do nothing, while his young daughter is drafted into these brutal conditions, which will soon cause her to perpetrate acts of brutality?
No woman and no man should endure serving in a war
Or son....
Because if there is no defense force they will be annihilated.
If the occupation and oppression apartheid and now Genocide wasn’t there then all would be at peace Jews Muslims and Christians lived happily together until 1947 obvious where the problem lies.
@@samnangthim6949 The question is, is it necessary to draft young females, in order to have a defense force?
we all will be held accountable for our actions, but for these women it's too late to go back
I agree! What they did was absolutely disgusting. The abuse of that child who was forced to strip and they abused him. The girl who took a picture of a corpse with an erection… that is true evil and very sick minds. They cannot be forgiven.
Very sad. Horrible for those they abused. 16 years from the making of this movie. Even in extreme conditions best to act morally. They learned who they really were and didn’t like who they were. They can’t change the past, but they can change what they do each day.
Muslims are worse
They will never change it’s their ideology they think they are gods choosen people and can abuse and do anything to everyone. They hate Arabs as if they hate Christian’s and when they finish with Palestine they will not finish their agenda
There's that NGO "Breakinc the silence". From the government they are referred to as liars. That says it all. How can one even treat young people like that? To me these are hostages too.