How Terribly Unfortunate.

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  • čas přidán 9. 07. 2022
  • Today I'm looking back at one of the biggest songs of the 90s. The Verve's "Bittersweet Symphony". What a song, it truly is iconic. It is unfortunate that it was the subject of so much controversy - infringing on copyright and subsequently The Verve never earned a penny from this massive hit until recently. What do you think about this song? Does it make you feel anything? Is 90s BritPop something you enjoy?
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  • @JustinHawkinsRidesAgain
    @JustinHawkinsRidesAgain  Před rokem +99

    Sorry if the clips are a bit short, the copyright elves were strict about this one!
    www.patreon.com/jushawk

    • @NeunExtraleben
      @NeunExtraleben Před rokem +8

      what elves? i'm pretty shure they're demons . . . 😁

    • @mrbig1022
      @mrbig1022 Před rokem +5

      @@NeunExtraleben 🎤shure

    • @mightyV444
      @mightyV444 Před rokem

      ... while the scammers pop up all over YT without detection 😏

    • @drunvert
      @drunvert Před rokem

      Always bright to stop people from finding bands before or after their time. Copyright elves being evil and stupid as usual

    • @miou-miou2740
      @miou-miou2740 Před rokem +4

      the verve did get approval to use that sample though since they weren't a big famous band at the time..
      as soon as the song peaked the charts the asshat manager for the stones took it back and made sure he got all the money.
      i wonder how big the verve would have become if it weren't for that conniving stones manager pretty much putting a halt to the band by taking away all the money they would have made off of that song alone.
      that whole album is fantastic, but that greedy move must have taken a toll on the band mentally.
      knowing that even if they get approval to use something it can be taken away in the blink of an eye if the song becomes a commercial success.

  • @RiffsAndBeards
    @RiffsAndBeards Před rokem +263

    I think it's super cool that after the Stones got their publishing back from their former manager who took it from The Verve, Richards and Jagger gave Ashcroft his song publishing back in 2019.

    • @christopherweise438
      @christopherweise438 Před rokem +31

      Just like Dolly Parton having to give her songs to Porter Wagoner to get out of her contract with him.
      Then years later when he needed money instead of her just loaning him money....she bought her catalog and HIS catalog for a few million.
      Then.....years later when he had money and wanted to buy his catalog back from her....she just gave it back to him NO CHARGE.

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral Před rokem +10

      Sweet of Dolly Parton and what a weird set of events involving music catalogues

    • @aprilkurtz1589
      @aprilkurtz1589 Před rokem +13

      I always respected that Jagger/Richards did that.

    • @scottypippen3778
      @scottypippen3778 Před rokem +2

      That is cool.

    • @williamberry2351
      @williamberry2351 Před rokem +3

      @@aprilkurtz1589 even after Richard Ashcroft publicly slated them for it (even though it wasn’t their choice and he had ripped of the song in part)

  • @F10MTL
    @F10MTL Před rokem +15

    It has the realest line I've every heard "You're a slave to the money then you die." That's the blues right there.

    • @hdng1984
      @hdng1984 Před rokem +2

      On a northern soul, the lyric that always hits me is "You come in on your own and you leave on your own", which is similarly as nihilistic. Ashcroft is a genius

  • @Mistressofthegroove
    @Mistressofthegroove Před rokem +150

    The melody had been appropriately submitted to Stones manager and initially approved then withdrawn when it smashed up the charts! Jagger and Richards were also victims as did not own rights on some of their music. The wrong was righted finally in 2019, Mick Jagger said at the time it should have happened long ago but he and Keith Richards admitted until their Manager died and the song went to his estate it was a legal minefield, they did not directly receive any of those royalties on Bittersweet as I recall. It was a very emotional moment for Richard and a little sad that his manager Jazz, who campaigned for years on his behalf, didn't live long enough to see the wrong righted. Better late than never I guess.

    • @ecldinc
      @ecldinc Před rokem +11

      They weren't the first band Stones lawyer Allen Klein sued and sure wasn't the last that he stole from either.

    • @Tohereknowswhen
      @Tohereknowswhen Před rokem +4

      @@ecldinc Remember Carter The Unstoppable Sex Machine? They did a song called After The Watershed in 1991, but they got into trouble with the Stones' publishers because of the line "Goodbye ruby Tuesday, come home you silly cow", I think Jimbob from the band revealed the publishers wanted 100% even though it was mainly that one line that got sung 3 times in the song.

    • @ecldinc
      @ecldinc Před rokem +1

      @@Tohereknowswhen Check out the one where George Harrison is being sued for copying The Chiffons, He's So Fine. Klein is supposed to represent Harrison, but tries to go buy the publishing for that song, so when Harrison would lose the case, George would actually be paying Klein twice as his rep and the song owner. Scumbag of the first order.

    • @markwitsken8260
      @markwitsken8260 Před rokem +5

      Thanks for this explanation. I had not heard that Jagger/Richards reversed this. I also thought it was so, so wrong that they did this. When they returned the rights to the Verve guys, there should have been a million dollar check for each of them as well.

    • @donnascottcomedy
      @donnascottcomedy Před rokem +3

      @@Tohereknowswhen I remember that! I always thought it was crazy, because it was the title. I think the NME ran a joke saying that the Rolling Stones had copyrighted all words.

  • @Ed-cc7do
    @Ed-cc7do Před rokem +115

    I was a production runner on this video aged 25. I remember how focused Richard was. He knew the big time was upon him. The director Walter Stern shot some much more violent stuff as I recall where Ashcroft got beaten up as he walked on but it didn’t make the cut.

    • @truelovewontwait
      @truelovewontwait Před rokem +2

      Its available to watch on youtube

    • @indefatigable6176
      @indefatigable6176 Před rokem

      @@truelovewontwait Link?

    • @truelovewontwait
      @truelovewontwait Před rokem +5

      @@indefatigable6176 just type bittersweet symphony alternative version into the search column

    • @DerekFrancis75
      @DerekFrancis75 Před rokem +2

      Such a clever music video I thought.

    • @Ed-cc7do
      @Ed-cc7do Před rokem +12

      @@DerekFrancis75 I remember on most pop video shoots you'd be sick of the song by lunchtime because you'd hear it on playback over and over again as the artist mimed along, often very reluctantly. But the BSS shoot was the exception that proved the rule, all the crew were going "this is a bloody great tune, and Richard's great, and the idea for the video is great (usually there was no idea :-)) Not for a moment suggesting anyone had any idea HOW massive the song would be, but we definitely all thought it would be a hit and it was an exciting day.

  • @andybetts1484
    @andybetts1484 Před rokem +27

    I was chatting to Nick McCabe a few weeks ago and he advised me that urban Hymns was recorded on tape, analogue. but, there were edits done in pro-Tools then flown back onto tape for mastering. The first 2 albums were 100% analogue on tape. Nick is a genius guitarist that plays with textures and soundscapes rather than straight ahead chords etc.

  • @silkywellman9046
    @silkywellman9046 Před rokem +52

    Nick McCabe is such an inventive, creative guitarist!

    • @rrdream2400
      @rrdream2400 Před rokem +7

      Owen Morris said he could get Noel Gallagher to play the same part over and over while Nick McCabe never played anything the same way twice which is part of the reason Nick is so unique and amazing.

    • @aaronholmes8568
      @aaronholmes8568 Před rokem +2

      Nick has a genius, but he would never ever approach anything the same way. There's a Later... appearance where he's just randomly hitting dissonant notes with a slide and it's not representative of him at all.

  • @jeffreyroedel9804
    @jeffreyroedel9804 Před rokem +27

    Fascinated by the '97-'99 period when britpop and grunge were sunsetting finally and there was a brief period of something that felt like a fresh continuation of rock music into something new. Urban Hymns and OK Computer in '97 were the ambassadors forward at that time I think. But also Gomez's Bring it On ('98) and Liquid Skin ('99), Elliott Smith's XO ('98), Massive Attack's Mezzanine ('98), PJ Harvey's Is This Desire ('98), Wilco's Summerteeth ('99) and Travis' The Man Who ('99). All great records!

    • @StrangeAttractor
      @StrangeAttractor Před rokem +5

      those first couple of Gomez albums are masterpieces.

    • @marks.8780
      @marks.8780 Před rokem +3

      Yeah, it was an interesting period. And then The Strokes and The White Stripes kickstarted the garage rock revival and everything went back to basics!

    • @jeffreyroedel9804
      @jeffreyroedel9804 Před rokem +2

      @@marks.8780 For sure, which definitely makes this late '90s rock era unique. Things splintered into more retro or more electronic around 2000, but the late 90s were a different beast.

    • @modernchampionmusic81
      @modernchampionmusic81 Před rokem

      @@StrangeAttractor gomez 🤣

    • @modernchampionmusic81
      @modernchampionmusic81 Před rokem

      @@marks.8780 Two utterly shite bands

  • @SimonDutch
    @SimonDutch Před rokem +77

    A Northern Soul is an epic, drug fuelled, intense, dark masterpiece of nineties alt/indie rock. Looking forward to your flick on that one Mr Hawkins 🤘

    • @mikejenkins4924
      @mikejenkins4924 Před rokem +14

      Northern Soul was a very dark album indeed. I was doing tons of drugs of all types back then, and was incredibly autodestructive. This album was my soundtrack in these times, and I can't listen to it all these years later without it bringing shit back up.

    • @judegraham463
      @judegraham463 Před rokem

      @@mikejenkins4924 so true. As powerful at moving some in one direction, the same piece can alternatively move others in the opposite directions. Its all in our heads largely is in it Mike. I get what you're saying I think, how music can amplify those feelings we have for good, or bad. So true brother.

    • @mikejenkins4924
      @mikejenkins4924 Před rokem +2

      @@judegraham463 I think we all have a soundtrack to our lives, even if we don't consciously remember every track. But music has such a way to permeate our emotions and feelings, plus experiences, that just a listen can transport us to that time and space. I love music for that.

  • @StrangeAttractor
    @StrangeAttractor Před rokem +54

    the crazy thing about this era-defining, everyone-remembers-where-they-were-when-they-first heard it track, is that there are at least half a dozen tracks on Urban Hymns which are even better. I'll still be playing it in the OAPs home....

    • @gazzie12000
      @gazzie12000 Před rokem +3

      I have no idea where I was when I first heard this track. Nor have I ever liked it, but hey ho ! The only reason it was a hit was the musical hook which was just directly copied.

    • @StrangeAttractor
      @StrangeAttractor Před rokem +2

      @@gazzie12000 yet here you are, commenting on this video! Hmmm....

    • @jamesthecat
      @jamesthecat Před rokem +2

      I will be playing it in the OAPs home, too, and probably hoping the drugs do work!

  • @PaulDowsettUK
    @PaulDowsettUK Před rokem +39

    I saw Verve playing to about 30 people in the After Dark club in Reading in 1993. I loved their early period - Nick McCabe's guitar sound was amazing.

    • @Jamiewharton
      @Jamiewharton Před rokem +1

      Very jealous, amazing bootleg!

    • @PaulDowsettUK
      @PaulDowsettUK Před rokem +2

      ​@Sharks Check the setlist fm website. Loads of well-known bands played there - Radiohead, Supergrass, Spacemen 3, GBOA, Senseless Things, Shed Seven, Levellers, Manic Street Preachers. I don't think it's an exhaustive list.

  • @fredrikstadwhite
    @fredrikstadwhite Před rokem +49

    Nick McCabe is a phenomenal guitarist. Love him.

    • @EJleon96
      @EJleon96 Před rokem +5

      Especially on slide guitar, he is amazing

    • @rizzledizzle9801
      @rizzledizzle9801 Před rokem +5

      Him and john squire are the best of 80s/90s guitarists

    • @allanmills6540
      @allanmills6540 Před rokem +1

      @@rizzledizzle9801 Craddock always holds a special place in my heart

  • @RyanMichero
    @RyanMichero Před rokem +32

    I still call em Verve. Personally, their first stuff, The Verve EP and A Storm in Heaven, is my favorite. I saw them live in 1993, and WOW, I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Such incredible brilliance live. That exact show was recorded on video and is on CZcams now, 1993 The Backyard, Austin, TX. I was standing right in front and their roaring crescendi rattled my rib cage and set the hairs on my back on end.

    • @zaffranmoon1580
      @zaffranmoon1580 Před rokem +3

      I felt the same when I first saw them in Camden at the monarch.

    • @RyanMichero
      @RyanMichero Před rokem +1

      @@zaffranmoon1580 Oh I lived in London a while, I miss going to shows in Camden.

    • @RyanMichero
      @RyanMichero Před rokem

      @@zaffranmoon1580 I should say I miss going to shows in Camden and Brixton and Islington and Hackney and King's Cross and Soho and Hammersmith and...

    • @drunvert
      @drunvert Před rokem +2

      Thanks. I will find that EP now. I was too busy working everyday in the 90s to follow music

    • @RyanMichero
      @RyanMichero Před rokem

      Here's the show I saw.
      czcams.com/video/PqWJIz2-XKw/video.html

  • @efficiencygaming3494
    @efficiencygaming3494 Před rokem +13

    "Bitter Sweet Symphony" is probably my favorite song of all time, and yet The Verve had so many other songs that were just as good, if not better.
    A lot of the songs from their early singles and first album like "All in the Mind", "Gravity Grave", and "Star Sail" were really cool because they had a very trippy and shoegazey sound to them compared to the Britpop-type stuff they would do later on. They're some of the most underrated songs of the 1990s, in my opinion.

  • @adeptsect
    @adeptsect Před rokem +13

    The Verve's first album is called "A Storm in Heaven" Definitely my favorite. The first Recording I heard from them was "The Verve EP" it's amazing! These two albums were The Verve's best work imo, but that's prob because they hold so much sentimental value for me.. One of the best bands hands down!

  • @prettyheartmachine
    @prettyheartmachine Před rokem +9

    I loved Richard's Ashcroft's first solo album, Alone With Everybody! Pretty sure I tried to put "On a Beach" on every single mix CD I made in the early 00s.

    • @amysquie
      @amysquie Před rokem

      On a Beach is one of my all time favourite songs! So beautiful, still gets me in the gut.

  • @rrdream2400
    @rrdream2400 Před rokem +14

    I love Slide Away and Blue from their first album as much as anything they did.

    • @msheldon10
      @msheldon10 Před rokem +2

      Yes! Both amazing songs. Virtual world as well is amazing on that album

    • @rrdream2400
      @rrdream2400 Před rokem

      @@msheldon10 Yes, absolutely, Already There is another stand out

  • @Ed-cc7do
    @Ed-cc7do Před rokem +9

    I always thought Nick McCabe was a genuine enigma - genius guitar player, the engine of this massively successful band but no one knew anything about him. But apparently behind the scenes he would take Ashcroft on re: the ballads getting too numerous and too sugary. He always looked fucking cool and graceful on stage, like he was in his own world, which he probably was :)

  • @wowomah6194
    @wowomah6194 Před rokem +6

    That whole Urban Hymns album were like a religion to me in my teens, one of the only songs that could make me just break down and cry so easily. I remember it was my birthday and I was like 17 or so and listened to it as I fell asleep and cried because I was so happy I was alive haha. Truly great songwriting on those Verve albums. And yes Life's an Ocean of course was another MINDBLOWINGLY great one, that Jules Holland live version is out of this world with Nick McCabe's searing lead accents while Ashcroft is roaring out his soulful lungs. Everyone knows this one for the Verve of course in ye olde America but god I wish they'd know so much more of the Verve than even the small amount most of my fellow Americans know of Oasis. Their last album in 2008 "Forth" has some absolute existential power to it...you cannot help but think about your life, existence, love, what it all really means, and your dreams when you listen to the Verve. They definitely tapped into something really incredible as far as music as poetry. The only songs I've ever desired to really cover were the Verve songs and playing the Drugs Don't Work, Sonnet, Space and Time, Lucky Man...those songs did and still do remind me that "WOW, I DO have a soul and right now it really, really hurts and feels good at the same time", I think the Zoomers would call this an "OOF"
    But lmao Justin you hit the nail on the head "Outsider rock but with violins"

  • @samtagg8754
    @samtagg8754 Před rokem +8

    A storm in Heaven and A Northern Soul are 2 of the best albums of all time let alone the Nineties!

  • @miguelelgueta5830
    @miguelelgueta5830 Před rokem +9

    I loved Urban Hymns back then, I still can't believe that Ashcroft wrotte some amazing uplifting songs like Lucky Man and Bitter Sweet Symphony and yet in the same album he put a couple of spectaculary depressive songs like Drugs Dont Work and Sonnet

  • @projectt4587
    @projectt4587 Před rokem +30

    This track is literally the anthem to my late teens. Urban hymns I feel is an underrated album particularly as lucky man, the drugs don’t work, sonnet and velvet morning are easily up there with bitter sweet symphony. Great vid 🤟🏻

    • @StrangeAttractor
      @StrangeAttractor Před rokem +4

      Velvet Morning is the greatest song ever written, IMHO

    • @chrischamberlain2168
      @chrischamberlain2168 Před rokem +4

      Space and Time is a tune. One Day is great as well.

    • @projectt4587
      @projectt4587 Před rokem +4

      @@chrischamberlain2168 I’d definitely add weeping willow too

    • @pyenapple
      @pyenapple Před rokem +2

      As usual for youtube comments, “underrated” isn’t the word you’re looking for here. You mean underheard in 2022.

    • @projectt4587
      @projectt4587 Před rokem +2

      @@pyenapple under-heard yes

  • @tehpickle1250
    @tehpickle1250 Před rokem +6

    I always very much enjoyed the song Lonely Soul, which Ashcroft did as a collaboration between himself, DJ Shadow, and James Levelle. That whole collaboration album (“Psyence Fiction”) was one of the defining albums of the 90s for me. Many a banger!

  • @guitarbandit94
    @guitarbandit94 Před rokem +4

    After all the bands you’ve gone through, have been surprised the verve has taken this long. Storm in heaven, early B-sides and Nick Mcgabe are so incredibly criminally underrated, always get a warm feeling hearing someone bring up The Verve.

  • @traviswhite5978
    @traviswhite5978 Před rokem +20

    "A Northern Soul" is an amazing album start to finish. I can listen to it today and it does not sound " dated". There are some albums from the " Brit Pop" eta that sound very dated now. I hope some of your viewers will go back and listen to " A Northern Soul" record or perhaps even viewers that have never heard it will discover it.

  • @stanlynch2009
    @stanlynch2009 Před rokem +25

    I always liked Lucky Man and some of Richard Ashcroft's solo stuff. It got me thinking of World Party and their Goodbye Jumbo album - it deserves the Justin Hawkins treatment. I met and talked with Karl Wallinger before a gig, super nice guy, great songwriter.

    • @glengarryglenross7127
      @glengarryglenross7127 Před rokem

      Talk about biting the hand that feeds

    • @heavymetal116
      @heavymetal116 Před rokem +3

      Weeping Willow is also an underrated track. Psychedelic sound with immaculate lyrics. It's my most favourite Verve track.

    • @MyRetroWatches
      @MyRetroWatches Před rokem +1

      Forgot about lucky man until I read this. Now I can remember it practically word for word. Anthem!

    • @oakvalepennybridge
      @oakvalepennybridge Před rokem +1

      His first solo album was amazing. I found the first two verve albums hard work. I really tried to get into them. I guess I prefer the more melodic stuff with the great guitars in the background

  • @flucazade
    @flucazade Před rokem +50

    The Verve are so good, actually the whole 90s british rock music was so darn good

    • @trevorhunton7526
      @trevorhunton7526 Před rokem +5

      Was it? I must have missed that bit.

    • @HajileLezcnev
      @HajileLezcnev Před rokem +5

      @@trevorhunton7526 Blur, oasis and the verve made some great albums that will be listened to for time immemorial.

    • @MrOasis316
      @MrOasis316 Před rokem +2

      @@trevorhunton7526 shame some of the best albums ever came from that time. Urban Hims, definitely maybe, what’s the story morning glory, the bends, ok computer, parklife, and 13, just to get you started if you wanna check them out. Much more great albums though that I have left out.

    • @trevorhunton7526
      @trevorhunton7526 Před rokem +1

      @@MrOasis316 best albums ever is your opinion, it certainly isn't mine. Born in the fifties, child of the sixties, teenager in the seventies when all the best albums were released.

    • @thechunkyone7118
      @thechunkyone7118 Před rokem +1

      How rude what about manic Street Preachers , OCS, cast and Mike flowers who in my option sings the far superior version of wonderwall

  • @davidyates8880
    @davidyates8880 Před rokem +9

    I'm glad I too got to see the Verve play live, they were a great band. What a shame that they just couldn't get on with each other.

  • @whello2000
    @whello2000 Před rokem +7

    Richard Ashcroft is amazing , his solo stuff , New York , song for the lovers just brilliant

  • @sgt.thundercok4704
    @sgt.thundercok4704 Před rokem +6

    That was cool as hell seeing you pick out 'Bittersweet' on acoustic. Massive talent and a great ear helps.

  • @redadamearth
    @redadamearth Před rokem +1

    Finally began watching your channel and speaking as a musician (and fan of The Darkness), it's fantastic to hear these breakdowns. Thanks for doing this.

  • @royorbit
    @royorbit Před rokem +5

    I’d love to see you do an episode discussing his solo deep cuts also.
    Great episode, thanks for giving the Verve some spotlight. I love them

  • @glengamble526
    @glengamble526 Před rokem +8

    As a professional musician, this was the most ridiculous copyright-infringement suits I ever heard of. First of all, it wasn’t even lifted from the actually Stones track-it was symphonic cover version, produced by their manager Andrew Oldham. And the section copied and looped for BS isn’t even an ACTUAL CHORD PROGRESSION that was used in the Stones writing. The arranger added these chords. Yet, Jagger-Richards got paid.
    Crazy.

    • @minners71
      @minners71 Před rokem

      Jagger and Richards never got a penny and had nothing to do with the copyright claim,it was their manager.

    • @glengamble526
      @glengamble526 Před rokem +1

      @@minners71 wrong. They DID get paid…but eventually gave back their share (which was cool of them) but it was long after the songs moment in the sun. Keith and Mick made a lot of money off of this-and then did the right thing and dropped their pursuit of it. And no it wasn’t their manager whom originally pursued it-it was their publishing company.
      Know your facts before you challenge me.

    • @badlefthook624
      @badlefthook624 Před rokem

      Also the original was lifted from the staples singers so the irony is off the scale. Kline was a cockroach.

  • @rangerwhite5165
    @rangerwhite5165 Před rokem +24

    Urban Hymns is a brilliant album. Met him briefly in Belfast, a few years ago. He was carrying a football, as he'd just been to visit George Bests house. He was with his wife. He's really tall and thin. Me and my mate didn't want to bother him, so had a quick chat and he went on his way. We were contemplating bumping into him like in the BSS video, but we bottled it. lol.

  • @tomitob7364
    @tomitob7364 Před rokem +4

    Thank you Justin. I love it when you peel a song like an onion and examine the arrangement, drawing our attention to things we might have overheard. And what a story there is this song. Even though they had negotiated the rights with Decca to use the sample, thinking it was going to be 50/50, once Klein realised how successful it was going to be his company demanded 100 percent - or they take it out of the shops.
    Having said that, does anyone else have the urge to write:
    "Me and me Mum and me Dad and me Gran We’re off to Waterloo"

  • @DexterDexter123
    @DexterDexter123 Před rokem +2

    Verve on tour with Smashing Pumpkins - had never seen them before. Life changing support band. ‘92. What a band. Along with Radiohead at the time releasing loads of great b-sides
    New Decade is the tune on that album, yes. Slide Away and Star Sail on first.
    Bitter Suite and Weeping Willow. 3rd. Nothing after that.
    McCabe.

  • @soloblue01
    @soloblue01 Před rokem +2

    Was always a fan of The Verve, but never listened to Ashcrofts solo music. After you and a lot of the comments saying it is good, I'll be checking it out. Thanks!

    • @wallsgreebo8352
      @wallsgreebo8352 Před rokem +1

      His first album Alone With Everybody is amazing. Definately listen to that, if nothing else .

    • @soloblue01
      @soloblue01 Před rokem +1

      @@wallsgreebo8352 A big thank you on the recommendation.

  • @cry-baby5170
    @cry-baby5170 Před rokem +1

    justin hawkins playing the verve, just how brilliant is that. you should come to prague with the darkness, justin. cheers for the videos! blowing a strangely wonderful wind into my days.

  • @MJ-803
    @MJ-803 Před rokem +25

    LOVE The Verve. I have all their records, which are not nearly enough records to have by The Verve. Ashcroft has such a great voice. Some of my favorite records were released in 1997: OK Computer, Urban Hymns, Ladies & Gentlemen We are Floating in Space, Homogenic. Look forward to your Northern Soul episode.

    • @StrangeAttractor
      @StrangeAttractor Před rokem +2

      it was such an incredible time. I think we all sort of felt it then but we definitely know it looking back from here....

    • @crimsonkate8241
      @crimsonkate8241 Před rokem +1

      You forgot Marchin' Already, Justin really needs to cover them here too!

    • @MJ-803
      @MJ-803 Před rokem

      @@crimsonkate8241 Yup, there are so many others I could have mentioned. It was a big year for music.

    • @marks.8780
      @marks.8780 Před rokem +3

      In It For The Money by Supergrass was another classic from ‘97 👌

    • @randomcamerajunk6977
      @randomcamerajunk6977 Před rokem +1

      I remember listening to ladies and gentlemen we are floating in space at a mates house whilst tripping on psychedelics when it first came out. Blew my mind to pieces. Took me a year or more to track down who it was and get my own copy.

  • @chadleschasin2893
    @chadleschasin2893 Před rokem +4

    It’s a crime that Nick Mcabe gets no producers credit on Urban Hymns , it’s clear if he hadn’t come back and completed it we probably wouldn’t remember the album the same way.

    • @chrisNJLiverpool
      @chrisNJLiverpool Před rokem +1

      1000%. Pretty sure the DJ shadow-Esque drums on BSS are a McCabe idea given his love of electronic music. He is the reason that album has psychedelic and experimental touches… otherwise it would sounded like that RA acoustic album (fine songs, but a bit boring).

  • @moustachio334
    @moustachio334 Před rokem +9

    Verve’s first few albums really blew my mind. It was so frustrating that they lost rights to their own song just because of a string quartet sample.

    • @gazzie12000
      @gazzie12000 Před rokem

      The "string quartet sample" is the only memorable thing in this track, it's the entire "hook" to this song - and the only reason it was a hit so not frustrating, but as it should be, if someone uses another's work.

    • @8bitprodigy145
      @8bitprodigy145 Před rokem

      @@gazzie12000 horrible take, Kanye is untouchable and rightfully so. It's a legal issue, simply put.

    • @gazzie12000
      @gazzie12000 Před rokem

      @@8bitprodigy145 What on earth are you talking about, what (or who) is Kanye, what is it to do with this? What does "horrible take" mean? I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about! 🙂

    • @8bitprodigy145
      @8bitprodigy145 Před rokem

      @@gazzie12000 I'm talking about sampling

  • @theoutlawdekepatton
    @theoutlawdekepatton Před rokem +6

    I think when Klein died a few years ago Jagger and Richards inherited the rights to Bitter Sweet Symphony and they in turn passed them on to Ashcroft so he now has full rights to that song.

  • @heavymetal116
    @heavymetal116 Před rokem +2

    The Verve has so many great songs other than "Bittersweet Symphony" that got overlooked!!

  • @thedearjohnpenfriendsociet6997

    Great timing with this one, only last week I was driving down the M5 and revisited A Northern Soul, great album. Look forward to your show on that one. All the best Justin!

  • @fullbeans983
    @fullbeans983 Před rokem

    The "sounds that recognize the pain in me" line always resonant since I first heard it. I feel like that one line sums up everything about RA/verve. Nothing quite cleanses the mind like listening to the whole of Northern Soul and Urban Hymns back to back.

  • @joelybarish4618
    @joelybarish4618 Před rokem +11

    Richard Ashcroft's first solo album is also quite good.

  • @edwardmulholland7912
    @edwardmulholland7912 Před rokem +10

    I love the first 3 albums - but “A Northern Soul” was the first album of theirs that I bought at the time of release. Two very dear friends of mine turned me on to them. It’s an incredible album - up there with Big Star’s “3rd” and Neil Young’s “Tonight’s The Night” - a true existential masterpiece.
    I’ve seen the band twice live - the first time was at the SFX in Dublin in August 1997 (almost 25 years ago!). It was the greatest gig I’ve ever been too - my jaw hit the floor, they played almost all of “A Northern Soul” live! Unbelievably good. Nick MaCabe is a genius, but so were the rest of the band.
    I also saw them about 9 years later in Belfast and they were almost as good as the first time I saw them. That 4th album is great too.
    Some of Richard’s solo stuff is incredible as well.
    Looking forward to your review of ANS.

  • @marksaunders448
    @marksaunders448 Před rokem +2

    I agree with you, Justin. Verve, as they were known when I first saw them live in 1992 without the “The”, were fantastic. They were my favourite band of the 90s and I saw them live several times in their early days- Brixton Academy, Camden Town Hall, Old Trout Windsor, New Cross Venue and then eventually Glastonbury and Earls Court.
    Storm in Heaven - just wow, my favourite album of theirs. Northern Soul - also great. I like Urban Hymns too, but they drifted away from their shoegazing psychedelic style of before and became much more commercial. Forth - some good stuff here too, but again more radio-suitable stuff and less raw than their more exciting earlier stuff.
    Favourite songs? “The Sun, the Sea” and “Life’s an Ocean”. Least favourite - sorry, “Bittersweet Symphony”.

  • @jamesstafford3172
    @jamesstafford3172 Před rokem +4

    His Vocal on 'Lonely Soul' with Unkle (James Lavelle & DJ Shadow) is an ABSOLUTE BANGER. Give it a whirl if you haven't heard it before Justin, it's absolutely rad!

  • @andymoody8363
    @andymoody8363 Před rokem

    Just discovered your channel and loving what you do. Great work man.

  • @NikoFrederiko.
    @NikoFrederiko. Před rokem +2

    Love the variation on the outro, where you held the last sung note, and meandered on the downward tag, even including the flat two, spicy indeed.

  • @PK-vd3vo
    @PK-vd3vo Před rokem +2

    I don't know why, as it really shouldn't matter, but it makes me thrilled to hear you show your appreciation for Richard Ashcroft and The Verve.

  • @simonlee6761
    @simonlee6761 Před rokem +3

    Saw them headline V98 (Chelmsford) - and in all the gigs and festivals I've been to since then, I've never heard/felt bass so loud and thick that felt like it was coming from within me and about to reverberate and explode my head (a la Scanners) like when they played. Was a top top gig.

  • @robbieadam8667
    @robbieadam8667 Před rokem +2

    The Verve are easily one of my favourite bands! It’s class you’ve covered them. A Northern Soul is an absolute masterpiece

  • @joeltaylor2830
    @joeltaylor2830 Před rokem +2

    Great video. Those background guitars really all work together with the string sample and the vocals to make a wall of contrasting sounds. Nice work pointing out Allen Klein got all the royalties and the Stones got Jack, but still sorted it out when they were legally able to.
    I'd like to put a vote in for a Neil Diamond video - you know it makes sense. 'Shilo', 'Brother Love's Travelling Salvation Show', 'Cracklin' Rosie', 'Girl, You'll be a Woman Soon'?

  • @alexjenner1108
    @alexjenner1108 Před rokem +2

    9:51 "outsider rock, but with violins." Great song and I'm sure I have the album here somewhere.

  • @benjaminzamzow2807
    @benjaminzamzow2807 Před rokem

    I've always liked the Darkness, and I found your channel about a week ago. This was probably the 10 one I've watched. I guess, what I find absolutely astounding is how music transcends and unites. I grew up in Northern Wisconsin and when I heard you talking about Richard Ashcroft's lyrics, McCabe's underrated guitar playing and overall unrecognized greatness of the Verve, I felt like I was hearing my own thoughts expressed. That despite the fact you're a bit older than me and grew up a world away. I'm a musician myself, albeit nowhere near as successful or accomplished. But Oasis and the Verve have been huge influences on my own creativity.

  • @thesilverecho1929
    @thesilverecho1929 Před rokem +1

    The Verve is one of those bands that really defined an era of music that i fondly go back to quite often. From Gravity Grave through even their last record, Forth, there was an undeniable magic about their songs. RA’s solo albums are also quite strong as well. Nick McCabe, Simon Jones, Peter Salisbury all complimented each other so well, especially early on. Good on you Justin for showing the love. They are up there for me as one of my favs.

  • @gregizzo4191
    @gregizzo4191 Před rokem +1

    I know both songs and love them both. I NEVER thought of one while listening to the other.
    Also, I love that your ringtone on your phone is Communication Breakdown!

  • @tweettweet2457
    @tweettweet2457 Před rokem +14

    I was lucky enough to meet Richard Ashcroft in NYC in 2009. He walked by me outside the hair salon i worked in and I chased him down the block and he COULDNT have been cooler or nicer. Even walked backed to my work because I told him he had to meet my co worker who was a bigger fan. We took pics and he chatted to us for about 15 minutes. It is one of my favourite memories. I imagine when I meet you, Justin, some day it will be a similar experience. But maybe instead you chasing me 😉 🥰

    • @StrangeAttractor
      @StrangeAttractor Před rokem +4

      similar thing happened to me with Thom Yorke in '96. What a dude. It's cool when they recognise genuine fans and what the chance meeting means to us.

    • @tweettweet2457
      @tweettweet2457 Před rokem +2

      @@StrangeAttractor totally agree! All these years later and still a highlight in my life!

  • @deansheppard7630
    @deansheppard7630 Před rokem +3

    History will always be one of my favourite songs. Hits me right in the heart every time.

  • @retrofuturistuk6060
    @retrofuturistuk6060 Před rokem +1

    Hi Justin. Love the channel. Your voice is necessary and refreshing amongst the current malaise of modern music media.
    As someone who has always struggled with substance abuse and sobriety in general I'd love to hear your story if you are willing to share.
    In the context of creativity and your own creative process I'd be very interested to hear how 'clean living' has affected your approach to writing music.
    Load of love and respect brother x

  • @aequanimitas
    @aequanimitas Před rokem +1

    I always love the glasses and how they so perfectly and effortlessly match the chosen outfit. I spent a while trying on different sunglasses and asking my loved ones if they looked alright on me, every time the answer I got was "errr, no" and thus I find myself getting jealous.

  • @earache70
    @earache70 Před rokem +5

    I love that you dig A Northern Soul. I've always loved that one and thought it to be tragically underrated. Bitter Sweet is also, such a great track for all the reasons you mentioned, but that drum loop, man...(is it the drummer looped? Sounds like it to me)...how the snare fill draaaags it so far back every time
    ... So, good.

    • @rizzledizzle9801
      @rizzledizzle9801 Před rokem

      Great album, stormy clouds, this is music, the bsides are great too, theres a beautiful song called you and me, reminds me of my brother, great music

  • @shawninwards3685
    @shawninwards3685 Před rokem

    Love that you got into the brilliance of The Verve. They remained pretty underground here in Canada, though I managed to see them 3 times in support of each album. The first was at the side stage of Lollapalooza after the release of Storm. Although I see how they got lumped in with Brit Pop, I found they had a bit more depth. I think that really came through in the live shows. McCabe had a real knack for creating such understated delicious little ambient bits, as one would discover with a proper headphone listen to any of the recordings. The band as a whole was such an entity. Simon Jones and Pete Salisbury created such a solid groove beneath it all. So many cherished tracks beyond Bittersweet. I really enjoy your channel. Lurking beneath every musician is a rabid music fan.

  • @JCBuni
    @JCBuni Před rokem +3

    Would be interested to hear your breakdown of his song “they don’t own me.” A favorite and what a vocal performance!! Love yer vids! Thanks from Beantown.

  • @myredpencil6422
    @myredpencil6422 Před rokem

    I am hooked on your videos. Love them

  • @sltillim
    @sltillim Před rokem +4

    While you were riffing on the melody I heard Madonna “don’t tell me” spot on. Don’t tell the stones….

  • @rizzledizzle9801
    @rizzledizzle9801 Před rokem

    Thanks big j(justin) for shining a light on their earlier work, i love a northern soul too, "i was buying some feelings, from a vending machine" xo

  • @nongmar8783
    @nongmar8783 Před rokem +2

    I was lucky to see them in NYC when they reunited. One of my favorite bands ,amazing live.

  • @Jj-ff9vq
    @Jj-ff9vq Před rokem

    Went to school with the bass player Jones in Liverpool. I can distinctly recall me playing my bass in 6th form, because I was going to be the next Rick Savage back then....the lad must have already been on his way with the band think he was just moving to Wigan or had...and he was asking how I did this and that on it....and he was obviously just having a chuckle. Well done to you Sir. Well done.

  • @x-JB-x
    @x-JB-x Před rokem +1

    Nick Mccabe is without doubt one of the most underrated guitarists ever. Have a listen to the first album "A storm in heaven" lay on your bed, with your eyes shut and just listen. His guitar work is sublime.
    A northern soul is for sure their best work though. This is music, life's an ocean and history big stand out tracks. Weeping Willow is the best track on urban hymns for me.
    i was lucky enough to see them several times including the Haigh hall homecoming gig in Wigan, amazing night.
    BTW Justin, your content and approach on the channel is superb, and for once a channel on YT has intelligence to it. Fair play fella.

  • @annicegrundy5307
    @annicegrundy5307 Před rokem +1

    One of my favourite singers of all time..seen him sing live many times he just gets better and better

  • @nkirk8740
    @nkirk8740 Před rokem +3

    Another great video, the Verve, another band I've never been into, there you go but interesting non the less, thanks Justin. 👍👍👍👊✌️.

  • @nixmoretta13
    @nixmoretta13 Před rokem +4

    Richard Ashcroft (former Verve) is a phenomenally talented singer/songwriter in his own right, thank you for highlighting! They didn’t need any further success from a group perspective, as what they created in a short period of time, has longevity and a deeper resonance.

  • @SkyBrotherBortz
    @SkyBrotherBortz Před rokem +3

    Love The Verve. Great, great band. Bravo.👏👏

  • @EdCollects
    @EdCollects Před rokem

    Have you ever discussed the similarities between Is It Just Me and Fun Fun Fun by the Beach Boys? I'm a big fan by the way. I've seen you live twice and I loved every second of it.

  • @TomWright91
    @TomWright91 Před rokem +7

    Love the videos Justin.
    I would love to see you and Rick Beato team up on a video. 2 of my favourite CZcamsrs.

    • @christopherweise438
      @christopherweise438 Před rokem +2

      Mine as well.....but i prefer my Justin Hawkins videos pure and uncut.
      They each do their own thing so well. I don't know if we need a cross pollination IMO.

  • @paolo-n2000
    @paolo-n2000 Před rokem +6

    Nick McCabe is an incredible musician...he creates such unique sounds, nobody quite like him!

  • @artpereira
    @artpereira Před rokem +1

    The Verve is ALSO one of my favourite bands! So glad I am not alone in this. And yes, "A Northern Soul" is great! Love them too.

  • @purplereigninblood
    @purplereigninblood Před rokem

    Justin let's get some food and casually bump into everyone on the way , love this. I wore this album out back in the day. Thanks

  • @christomsharpe
    @christomsharpe Před rokem

    Really nailed the “like/sub” spiel there, like a terms and conditions bit at the end of a radio advert. Slick, proper CZcamsr these days 👍

  • @migsta74
    @migsta74 Před rokem

    Can't wait to see your a northern soul video the album is one of my all time favourites that album got me through some dark days !

  • @thebeachisdark7
    @thebeachisdark7 Před rokem

    yess definitely do a video on the second album!!

  • @wallsgreebo8352
    @wallsgreebo8352 Před rokem +3

    Probably my favourite band of all time. Incredible musicians.

  • @xxxpaps
    @xxxpaps Před rokem

    those specs really go wi ur tracky top, well done ;)

  • @moreheff
    @moreheff Před rokem

    Made me chuckle that Justin's ringtone is the intro to Communication Breakdown!! ;-)

  • @marklanegan2374
    @marklanegan2374 Před rokem

    Justin...you have a fan from Egypt man well done...lol...no seriously I mean thanks so much for the awesome Darkness music and most of all thanks for bringing more love to the world...I will see you next year in the UK at Wembley with these other guys (black stone something). Anyone here in the comment section going?

  • @rowgli
    @rowgli Před rokem

    'Communication Breakdown' is a great choice for a ringtone 🤣

  • @zzsdad
    @zzsdad Před rokem

    Hey Justin, Northern Soul is one of my favourite albums of all time! With History being my favourite track on it. I heard once History was recorded in one take after a very heavy, very long session, which for me just adds to the vibe, if true. A run through of Northern Soul would be amazing, please?

  • @TheLetterZ
    @TheLetterZ Před rokem +4

    Ayy sick glasses and shirt combo today Justin!

  • @wormbaby666
    @wormbaby666 Před rokem

    Yes! Yes please! Do a breakdown of A Northern Soul! It's always about Bittersweet Symphony when The Verve comes up (or Lucky Man or, Sonnet) but that album kicks SO much ass! :)

  • @sarahdenyer5423
    @sarahdenyer5423 Před rokem

    I was only 7 when this came out but I absolutely fell in love with it. I used to go to the local WHSmith and their cd section which had a copy you could listen to and I’d listen to bittersweet symphony every time we went to town. Such a tune. One of my faves ever

  • @troymacneil5766
    @troymacneil5766 Před rokem +1

    Sweet! Justin, I was just wondering what ur thoughts were on Richard Ashcroft. Thanks for the vid!

  • @71771PAULTHEWALLOFSOUND
    @71771PAULTHEWALLOFSOUND Před rokem +13

    They had some great tracks, real lyrics that meant something. "The drugs don't work" was especially one that had food for thought, as normally anyone taking drugs never really understands what it does to those around you, who love you.

    • @LongtownLee
      @LongtownLee Před rokem +7

      The song was written about his mother being sick in hospital.
      Nothing to do with recreational or hard drug use.

    • @rcookie420
      @rcookie420 Před rokem +4

      @@LongtownLee that’s the great thing about the song, many meanings, I don’t think this one has ever been said to be true.
      He said himself in an IV in ‘95 it was about taking drugs. Was also attributed, perhaps by fans searching for the meaning, to his father who died when he was young. Also attributed to his wife’s father in law passing.
      All a quick google search away. Seems the only meaning Richard himself gave was that in was in fact about taking drugs. But hey that’s the beauty of music, it can mean whatever you want it to mean and what feels right to you

    • @rizzledizzle9801
      @rizzledizzle9801 Před rokem

      Have u got any drugs?

    • @71771PAULTHEWALLOFSOUND
      @71771PAULTHEWALLOFSOUND Před rokem +1

      @Macavity
      Then why isn't he saying that documented?

    • @71771PAULTHEWALLOFSOUND
      @71771PAULTHEWALLOFSOUND Před rokem +1

      @Macavity
      "Tory" wtf has politics got to do with it lmao. Show me a link of him stating this then? Shouldn't be hard mate.

  • @andrewlast1535
    @andrewlast1535 Před rokem

    I just listened to “Life’s An Ocean” from that riff in the beginning. Amazing song. We didn’t have the exposure to the Verve in the US besides that one hit. Please do more of these deep cuts or maybe a playlist? I know my Spotify has gotten pretty stale? That music theory ear helps me skip through a lot of nonsense to find good music. Thank you.

  • @susanz6697
    @susanz6697 Před rokem

    This was literally the last days of gentrification in London, and Hoxton, my neighbourhood. Pre internet, the last days of the old way of living. Richard was in my sitting room one day when we all awoke.

  • @arunca190
    @arunca190 Před rokem +14

    This is a great song but also unfortunate that they are known more for this than their other gems! God their other stuff is soo much better. And Nick McCabe is a living treasure IMO.

    • @chadleschasin2893
      @chadleschasin2893 Před rokem +5

      To me McCabe was the main creative force behind the band , the way Ashcroft has started to revise history in later years has really started to sour my opinion of him.

    • @minners71
      @minners71 Před rokem +1

      @@chadleschasin2893 I agree I always thought of Urban hymns as more of a Richard Ashcroft solo album than a proper verve album.

    • @arunca190
      @arunca190 Před rokem

      @@chadleschasin2893 I didn’t want to go into that. But yeah, they all hang out and work together still except for RA. He is def a different type of person. His “passion” def helped them reach a certain point, but also become destructive and push people away. Nick McCabe left a few times and you can imagine why.

    • @arunca190
      @arunca190 Před rokem

      @@minners71 I agree. It basically was. Ashcroft wrote the songs and filled them out with the band (minus Nick). Then, last minute, Nick got the final tracks and added his parts and basically remixed it. Obv fanboy here haha.

    • @chadleschasin2893
      @chadleschasin2893 Před rokem +1

      @@arunca190 Ashcroft wrote a lot of the songs but some were written in the traditional Verve style Rolling People as an example, and as far as it being Ashcroft first solo all you need to do is look at the demos on here to realize what McCabe brought to the table …..especially with Sonnet, the guitars make that song.

  • @geraintjones6401
    @geraintjones6401 Před rokem

    Seeing The Verve play at Slane Castle (in '98 I think) was a big highlight for me. Bittersweet Symphony and Lucky Man were proper goosebump moments. Awesome band! Cheers Justin.

  • @Pixietoria
    @Pixietoria Před rokem

    Love this song. I would love to hear you do.a version of it. Your voice would suit it so well.