A virtual high-five for your awesome laptop reviews! Seriously, your honesty and transparency are like a breath of fresh air in the world of tech reviews! Looking forward to more of your insightful content.
In that case, I'll add that you're the best laptop reviewers out there, based on last 40 hours or so of research I've invested (boredom) in buying my next notebook. If I didn't want to waste much time on this, all I need to do is watch your vids. Much Thanks! @@JustJoshTech
Honestly..i love that i can watch these and get real, accurate, honest analysis for the laptop im about to buy. Just wanted to make sure to let you know.
After seeing the power draw, heat, and battery drain charts, I am highly considering the Pavillion Plus. That 7840U is very impressive. The H and HS series are nice for power users, but if I'm using over 60 watts I may as well be using desktop (or a gaming laptop i guess). Besides - it have an OLED screen!
I picked up the Pavilion plus 14 based on Josh's video and it's been a great laptop all around, very happy with it! It's so hard to find good and efficient apu only laptops that aren't intel or Apple based, and this one hits all the check marks for me. I hope HP continues this product line but gives the future plus versions at least 24 gigs of lpddr5x. I feel like the entry level 8 gig models should get axed for 12 or 16, give the pavilion plus line 24 and everything higher 32 gig options. lpddr5 memory is so cheap it's ridiculous. There's no need for manufacturers to skimp out on it anymore. Sorry went off on a tangent lol, but yea great laptop!
@@jeevejavari8461 After watching a bunch of Josh's videos on various laptops, I'm feeling like the hp pavillion plus 14 is gonna be my only option in this price range - it's $1500AUD on sale, but then if I want to consider something that is a step up, like the hp spectre 14 that Josh recommends, I'm looking at like near the $3k mark for that TT TT. I know compared to the asus zenbook 14 (2023) the pavillion plus has less battery life and not as a good a build quality, but I feel like both have pretty good battery life anyways that I'm willing to trade some battery for the extra performace of the pavillion plus' cpu. I also was not prepared to sacrifice screen quality with a 2024 zenbook (the difference in PPI is WILD). How would you say the battery life and performance are? I'm always wary that there's only so much you can get from these sorts of tests and that real-world performance and use will shift things
ive own the zen 3+ variant for 3 months and I think its a good well rounded laptop that hits most checks. I also recomend disabling turbo boost it runs 10-15c lower which is pretty nice the rtx 3050 is no powet house but it is enough for light gaming
Hey Josh, could you look into the acoustics of your room/setup? There's an echo or ringing to your voice and it's distracting. Thanks for your effort and keep up the good work!
I have the slim 7 pro X and it's phenomenal... The 3.1k display @ 120hz and puresight IPS is really incredible for watching videos and some random work.
I bought one with 7840hs 32 GB of ram and 1 tb storage for 1799 in Australia and it's cheaper than Zenbook, for the use that I beed it's more than perfect
This was a god sent review. I’ve been conflicted between getting the legion slim 5 14inch but wish it had touchscreen so I’ve been looking at the pro 7 and yoga 9i. I know Asus ROG would be a great fit but I had so many issues with my last gaming laptop from years ago and sending it in for repairs several times that I want to try a different brand. I want dedicated graphics, preferably 32gb is upgrading isn’t an option and a touchscreen with low fan noise and heat. I’m a casual all round user that believes in longevity when it comes to tech so I don’t want to make the wrong call and be stuck with the laptop
The nice thing is Lenovo publishes their service manuals and makes repair parts easily accessible; in a world where it is rare to find these things, it is a huge plus
I heard that in actual games the 680m and 780m are identical. Maybe more testing on this is worth it? There are a lot of laptops with these chips and no dedicated graphics, and also a lot of handhelds too
they are not identical. 680M uses RDNA2 architecture for its Compute Units, while 780M uses RDNA3. The performance difference is not huge, but the display and media engine is also upgraded so you get AV1, DP2.1, HDMI 2.1, etc etc. In games the difference is not very big, you are right.
I have the Slim Pro 7 Zen 4 and the ASUS 14 (I am deciding which one to return). The Slim 7 screen looks very dim for 350nits, the white balance is off so I think that's why it looks dim. The whites look cream coloured, making it look dull and less easy to read. That paired with the glossy screen is a mistake on Lenovo's part. Frustrating as I like everything else about it (minus the power button, which is annoying). the ASUS 14 screen is SHARP and bright, but I could only get one with the version with 5 7530U, which may be the culprit for the horrible fan noise even with light use. This thing sounds like a plane taking off, compared to the Slim 7 being very quiet.
I got my 7840hs model on sale at $859 with an additional nursing discount for a total of $816.99. While the 3050 6gb dedicated GPU isn't a powerhouse, it does give me additional capability to do some light gaming while traveling. This is a definite bonus in my book. If you can get this laptop for under $1000, it seems like a solid contender.
The macbook air m2 with 8gbs of ram is better than the Slim pro 7 $900 model for programming? I have doubts about it and I cant afford the 16gb upgrade on macbook.
What do you think about the Yoga Pro 7 14 GEN 9? I just bought it for £680 on sale and it has: AMD Ryzen 7 8845HS Processor (3.80 GHz up to 5.10 GHz) Integrated AMD Radeon 780M 16 GB LPDDR5X-6400MHz 512 GB SSD M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 TLC 14.5" 3K (3072 x 1920), IPS, Anti-Glare, Non-Touch, 100%DCI-P3, 400 nits, 120Hz I think this version is a lot better than the model you have just reviewed. The 400 nits is surely better than the 350 nits version you were reviewing it also has a 3K 120Hz resolution compared to the 2.5k 90Hz one you reviewed. I think this newer model seems pretty good for the price I bought it for. The only thing I would want is 32GB RAM but I think I will do fine with 16GB. I am going to University in September to study software development so I needed a new laptop and for the price range I bought it at I couldn't find any better it was pretty much a no brainer for £680!
Josh I think your original review is actually very accurate. I got Yoga Pro 7 but returned it in a week. The trackpad is the absolute worst I’ve used on any laptop. The click unbearably loud and requires too much force. The hinge also feels stiff and cheap. Sometimes I can open with one hand, sometimes not. I dare say the track pad and hinge are worse than my Legion pro 7i gaming laptop. I guess most people just completely overlook or don’t care about these things.
honestly, you had me in wonders for not buying the laptop for couple of months and now that I have bought it, I must say that the only thing you were right about, might be the mouse pad, its very responsive but it gives out click which i prefarably dont like and since i never use my mouse pad, I would give 5 out of 5 for this laptop
Great video Josh! You are the best laptop reviewer I have seen on the internet, and it is clear that you are dedicated. You pay attention to details that affect the buyer and you are so transparent. These are qualities that are rare in the laptop reviewing community. You could maybe try putting on some low background music, jazz or something. And make a short intro maybe? Anyways, to you and your team, keep up the amazing work!! 🙌😊
Is this laptop called the yoga pro 7 in Europe? I ordered this model with the 7840hs and no gpu and seeing the benchmarks I think it’s a good idea to only have the apu since it’s only like 15% slower than the 3050
Just watching this aftwr having bought the laptop bwcause I was so unhappy with it. Couldn't really tell what it was except for the keyboard. Well it's pretty much all the things you said. I dislike the keyboard. Mainly for ity missing Home and End keys and its collection of unnecessary stupid shortcuts. Must of them are windows shortcuts (Win + letter) anyways. The display is good though. But battery life felt underwhelming. My version came with only win hello face detection and it sucks.
Thanks so much for the update! So, not the big difference people where claiming (including me :D) I have both the Schenker Vision 14 and the Slim Pro 7 here and between the two, the Lenovo machine just seems better built, cooler, more efficient. It's good enough for me to keep. Also I have the 400 nits screen with a 4050 that runs at 35W. The amount of different configurations for this chassis is definitely too many and at this point it seems like Lenovo is trying to confuse its buyers.
I literally changed the thumbnail before going live to NOT be clickbaity! The one before this was "Best Laptop Under $1,000?". I thought that was too clickbaity and missleading. What is wrong with this one? - pls let me know
@@JustJoshTechi just think your face looks ridiculous with your mouth open like that 😂 Mary Poppins said it best: "Close your mouth, please, [Josh]. We are not a codfish"
Hi Josh! Could I have your quick take on which Lenovo laptop would work best for office work and light gaming? 1. Legion Slim 7i (13700H, 16GB, 4060, ~$850 refurb) 2. Slim Pro 9i 16" (13905H, 32GB, 4050, ~$1000 refurb) 3. Legion Slim 5 14" (7840HS, 32GB, 4060, ~$1250 new)
Congratulations, you've picked some amazing laptops. If that's the 16inch Slim Pro 9i I would take that in a heartbeat over the others. If its the 14inch.... yeah i'd still take that tbh. I'd say 1) Slim Pro 9i, 2) Legion Slim 7i, and 3) Slim 5 14 Slim 5 14 is actually quite a big laptop btw, so to go to the Slim 7i from that is not a huge portability hit. The Slim 5 14 is a 14.5 inch screen. The Slim 7i is a 16. Plus the Slim 7i is a much nicer machine. Please use our links if you buy, it helps grow the channel
@@JustJoshTech Sorry, forgot to mention that it is the 16" Slim Pro 9i. If I'm honest, the only reason the Slim 5 14" is there is because of the OLED. How would you say it compares to the Slim Pro 9i's Mini-LED? It's interesting that the Slim 5 14" is actually not that much smaller than the others. It doesn't really look thinner than either the Slim Pro 9i or Legion Slim 7i. I don't like that the Slim Pro 9i only has 2 USB-As or that it's up and down arrows are half-size. I wish it had a similar layout to the Legions with full-sized arrow keys, but perhaps that would have conflicted with the touchpad somewhat. The refurbs are from eBay, so I don't think your links redirect there, unfortunately. Thanks for the input!
Hey Josh thanks again for the video and the great work but I'm still confused tbh, I'm strating to get lost with all the different version of each computer models, so to make things short I'm in Europe and there's a deal for the yoga slim 7 pro x at 854€, Ryzen 6800h, 1TB, 32GB, IPS 3K . The zenbook 14, Ryzen 7 7730U with 512GB, 16GB, IPS WQXGA is around 890€, would you still consider this one over the lenovo? I've never used a mac and can't find any competitor in the same price range.
i really didn't expect the zen 4 variant isn't much more efficient than the zen 3 variant. how is that even possible when amd use better N4 node for zen 4 compared to N6 used for zen 3 variant? Or is there something that lenove screwed here?
@@garrusvakarian8709 thats make sense. However the extra performance come with extra power too. I know its a small bump in power but that's make me wonder how small the ipc improvement of zen 4 is. I remembered 14% ipc improvement in desktop part, but i have no idea about laptop processor.
I cant decide between the yoga pro 7 14" vs ideapad pro 5 14". I've found both with the same zen 4 ryzen specs (8845hs) and rtx 3050 6gb. The only difference is the ideapad has an oled with 100% DCI and the yoga is matte IPS with only 100% sRGB. Also according to the specs the ideapad has a slightly larger battery. Which one should I get? They're the same price on sale right now
Hey josh can we get the same comparison between the slim pro 9i and slim pro 9? You empjasized the difference between the legion slim 7 and legion slim 7i, saying that you prefer the amd version. Also, what about differences in build quality between the slim pro 9 and legion slim 7? Because now, for all intents and purposes you can get the slim pro 9i or legion slik 7i with the same specs inside, which begs the question: how to pick one over the other?
Are we getting screwed in europe? I cant find a legion slim 7 even a little close the same price as the yoga 7 pro. They are mor like 700 hundred euros more. :D
Interesting that the argument was the Zen generation. I have no problems with Zen 3 on the Zenbook 14X compared to the Zen 3 on the Slim Pro 7 that I tried. A night and day difference in usability that had nothing to do with maximum performance capabilities. The Slim Pro 7 was continually lagging and stuttering.... The Zenbook 14x has performed flawlessly and for a lot less money.
hey Josh, right now the Yoga Pro 7 with 7840HS, 32GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 2560x1600 IPS 90hHz and no dGPU is available here in the Netherlands for 949 euros including 21% VAT. Its the lowest priced 14 inch, high performance 32GB laptop right now. That is about 784 euros without VAT, probably 800+ USD. I have been looking for a dev laptop with a dGPU on the level of the 780M, so do you think this one seems worth it? Also, any comment on Yoga hinges?
@@JustJoshTech ah, this is wonderful timing. i hope you do review the lenovo yoga pro 7i with the intel ultra and rtx 4050/60. im a university student and is going to enroll soon, and honestly i havent been able to find a proper review on this unit. looking forward to the video!
@@calvin4721 I am getting mine in a couple of days. Do wish that they gave the chassis from the Pro 9i 14" for it though (SD card reader + another Type A + 20W TGP boost)
I just got this laptop this week, i had to get the 7735hs version as they dont sell the 7840hs in the UK as far as im aware. I had to get it though as it was only £625 ($788)
That unchanged efficiency is one of thr wierdest things I have seen in the laptop space in a while. Lenovo/AMD must of seriously messed up the Volt/frequency curve on the Zen 4 model for it not to be appreciatively better since it is running on a much better process node.
@@JustJoshTech It isn't just that, the voltage you set per frequency is the other factor in efficiency since if you can set the voltage to a lower value per amount of frequency it will consume less power per amount of work done. This would show itself both at the stress test but also crucially at the battery life test you run. I believe that is the reason why the Zen 4 U series are so much better than the HS versions because all that is different between these chips is power limits but primarily is the Volt/frequency tuning.
All nodes on the first version experience poor efficiency. As we get to smaller nodes, it does appear that it takes longer for them to get the process right. An example is TSMC and Samsung 3nm modes; both report issues with efficiency on their N3. TSMC will become more efficient on version 2.
I just picked one of these up as a Best Buy open-box fair for $413.99 that was in perfect shape and included the 140W USB-C charger. At that price, I think it was a steal. I'm assuming BB did also, since I tried to buy another one an hour later, and they went up to $638.99. :(
This has got to be a joke right? A Macbook air is easily 500€ more for even the lowest end version. I also cant actually configure the yoga to have as little storage in both ssd and ram as the highest end Mac book air. The Zenbook is the better comparison but sadly thats only available with Zen 3+ in its regular version. For Zen 4 you gotta uptier.
You are compromising on every other metric for higher spec. If you want a great laptop, the MB Air M2 is miles better, from speaker, keyboard, trackpad, battery life, fan noise, quality, etc. Obviously, you are trading that off with lower specs (8GB/256GB). But the Air will give you a far better experience for those that are fine with that.
@@andyH_England Depends which OS youre used to. Regardless of their products Apple is currently the spearhead in anti consumerism. Supporting that company is financial suicide short and even worse in the long term. The really bad thing is that other companies like Samsung are watching and learning. Theyre actively trying to remove themselves from the competitive market. A game where the companies can only win and the consumer only lose.
In the Moment you get the zen 4 version with 32 ram and 1T storage for 1000Euro. Does this make it much better with twice the RAM capacity or not? Happy to learn from your knowledge! thank you!
For all the hype that was surrounding Zen 4 CPUs… I don’t seem to see any drastic changes in the battery life or the fan noise area. Am I crazy or was this just overhyped?
We use these in the studio and video editing area. We tested quite a few to choose this one: amzn.to/3R1OzY8 . Its 27inch, 4k, great color reproduction, and on a big sale :)
can you please make a video review about lenovo thinkbook g5+ with option zyren 7 7840H too. i just want a laptop for work but i think this the only one that have sceen and batery life match to me, if you have another option then let me know. I already think about macbook 14 but its over package to me :(
Hello, I just bought a Dell Inspiron 16" with 13th gen i7 and rtx 2050, could you please make a review on this laptops, all reviews I've seen so far are quite bad and you are the king of laptops review, I really need your opinion.
Screwed it up again. You were supposd to review the Yoga Slim 7 (non-pro). It's actually a different device! The screen is different on that one amongst other things. Not available in the US tho, and the Lenovo model naming is confusing AF, so can't blame you.
You should have reviewed the one with 7840 cpu and 780 gpu, that’s the one everyone talks about, don’t know if it’s in us to be honest, so hard to get I guess
Yes, because all pro users are a bunch of middle aged men that make youtube videos complaining about stuff and they need to edit them. Engineers, architects, that work on medium to large projects that don't need 5k workstations and use windows only software (that cost 15k a license) are not pros. For them even the most expensive MacBook would be useless. No, you need a vlog or a degree in complaining a button is placed wrong to be a pro, or to be a podex.
I remember being hyped for this laptop because they promised it would get an rtx 4050 eventually. Half a year after the release, it hasn’t come out. A shame, but I got the 7735hs and 3050 for 850$. Good deal, but I would have paid extra for the much more efficient gpu any day.
@@milkyy4168 Ah, that sucks. Lenovo's practice with all the different configurations is pretty frustrating. Over here in Finland it was difficult to find a variant with any RTX gpu and more than 512gb disk space without a big jump in price. Not to mention some worse Yoga variants were being sold at higher prices compared to better ones.
@@jins86 Yup. It’s so confusing that there’s the yoga 9i pro with no DGPU, and it’s a convertible, yet they have a different yoga 9i pro that isn’t a convertible, and has a rtx 4070 and core i9??? It’s so weird.
02:08 HP Pavilion Plus again with hight performance per watt than an laptop running an ARM chip. That laptop is a steal for the low price. Would be interesting to see what AMD can achieve when they design ARM APUs.
@@JustJoshTech Although it would be different to your usual content, so not likely to be considered, it would be interesting to get your thoughts on the upcoming prospect of Qualcomm powered laptops.
Please please please review the i7 and rtx 4050 configuration Cause i have a feeling you'll like it Its has a better 3k factory color corrected 120hz display Some i7 13gen And an rtx 4050 While having great thermals and like great battery life for the configuration
Terrific Comparison--- I found a razor 16 -- 4070 for about 2100 usd. I could not find a comparison between that and the 9i - 4060. But the 9i has the more superior screen to the 7i slim. Would you suggest the 9i over the blade 16 4070?
Hi Josh! I absolutely love your videos - I’ve been watching since the days of that 2 room apartment where you had to film at specific times in the day to beat the glare! I’ve been torn, and I’m wondering: I’m a law student, and have noticed my M1 MacBook Air 8gb slowing down in terms of the tabs I can have open, but I mainly just have a lot of different windows open at once, and switch between them. I really like laptops that are portable, but would also like a slightly bigger screen to be able to multitask better. I really prefer a small footprint, though. The question is, do I get the M2 Air 13 with 16-24 gigs of ram, or wait until the M3 Air, and hope that the 15 inch comes with more ports and is a bit lighter?🧐 With how I use my laptop 8 hours a day, I would appreciate the bigger screen, but the heaviest laptop I’ve used was the 3.0 pound MacBook Pro from 2018, and once you’ve used the Air for 3 years, anything heavier feels massive 😅 Thank you so much, and keep up the wonderful work!
Firstly wow, big thanks for watching so long. There is always something better coming. For your use case a 13inch or 15inch MacBook Air with 16g of memory would be ideal.... so long as you can buy from somewhere like B&H which offers discounts on custom configs. I can give you a link if you can find it there (the links help the channel) the 15inch is already ludicrously light for what it is. The 13inch with m2 has a larger display than the m1 air which you'll notice.
Btw they don't tend to discount newer laptops as much, which kind of offsets the .... wait for a new one vs buy now. That is why its critical you only buy one now IF you get at leasst $200 off MRSP to offset that. Hopefully that makes sense
Props for recommending the ASUS laptop...but if i'm looking into windows laptop reviews, why even bother suggesting a Mac? most people that want Macs don't watch windows laptop reviews.
You guys! We've already done 2 configs of this laptop :) In all seriousness, I think we need to cover some other laptops now... but an RTX 4050 is a huge step up. So i'd definitely get the config you mentioned if it were available here in the USA. Just expect poor battery life from a 13700H in a small laptop like this
If this is the one I'm think of, try to seeing it in person, as the Slim Pro 7i here in Canada comes with a light grey keyboard with white letters. Making is frustrating and impossible to see in some cases.
who should consider buying "used" Macbook (it doesn't cost less than $1000) comparing to a "new" Lenovo? Only Mac lovers. Zenbook? It doesn't have dedicated GPU, unfair comparison. Yes, I'm a fan of Zenbooks, I had the most first one 10 years ago (it's still around). But the comparison between these 2 devices is unfair, Asus just can't compete (anymore). In particular, there are no Zenbooks with 7840/7940hs and dedicated GPU. And the ones without dGPU aren't competitors for that Lenovo. The ones with Intel CPU are MUCH more expensive and non-comparable from performance/watt perspective (and in overall - worse device for the same money). So again - the video contains only excuses and proof of incompetence. Sorry, that's a bad behavior for hardware reviewers. Just accept your failure and incompetence, and use it as a space for mindset growth. One actual rival for that "Creators" laptop - Asus Creator laptop. It's very similar in specs, but it has Intel CPU (which is more expensive and less energy efficient by default). The model is Q540VJ-I93050 (or 90NB11K3-M00380), but it has subpar 13900h (which is relatively the same as 7840hs from performance perspective, but less energy efficient). And that laptop _IS_ $100-$200 more expensive. Oh, and it's 15.6'' (but I can't say is it better or worse, for me - worse). And yes, it uses round jack for power supply, which is not so great in 2024 =). And 150w charger (which is obviously worse from Type-C charging perspective).
Hey Josh, Hope you are well. I remember the video where you mentioned the importance and crisis Ukraine is facing. I was impressed and happy…thanks. I also noticed that the same thing has been for a while in Palestine too. I feel both are of great importance and really the genocide of civilians must be stopped. Hope you feel the same buddy ❤ Bye the way, I love your content, please keep up the great work and effort 😊
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much respect to you for getting in the zen4 version and adding onto the review !
Thanks! I want to be as accurate and fair as we can
Much respect for incorporating that comment about the power button. Glad you respond and engage with your community :)
A virtual high-five for your awesome laptop reviews! Seriously, your honesty and transparency are like a breath of fresh air in the world of tech reviews! Looking forward to more of your insightful content.
Thanks so much! It's comments like yours, Adrian, that keep me and the team motivated
In that case, I'll add that you're the best laptop reviewers out there, based on last 40 hours or so of research I've invested (boredom) in buying my next notebook. If I didn't want to waste much time on this, all I need to do is watch your vids. Much Thanks! @@JustJoshTech
Honestly..i love that i can watch these and get real, accurate, honest analysis for the laptop im about to buy.
Just wanted to make sure to let you know.
Thanks Kevin!
Great video. Looking forward to your CES 2024 coverage. Hoping Intel's Meteor Lake is good, especially the iGPUs.
After seeing the power draw, heat, and battery drain charts, I am highly considering the Pavillion Plus. That 7840U is very impressive. The H and HS series are nice for power users, but if I'm using over 60 watts I may as well be using desktop (or a gaming laptop i guess). Besides - it have an OLED screen!
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I picked up the Pavilion plus 14 based on Josh's video and it's been a great laptop all around, very happy with it! It's so hard to find good and efficient apu only laptops that aren't intel or Apple based, and this one hits all the check marks for me. I hope HP continues this product line but gives the future plus versions at least 24 gigs of lpddr5x. I feel like the entry level 8 gig models should get axed for 12 or 16, give the pavilion plus line 24 and everything higher 32 gig options. lpddr5 memory is so cheap it's ridiculous. There's no need for manufacturers to skimp out on it anymore. Sorry went off on a tangent lol, but yea great laptop!
@@jeevejavari8461 After watching a bunch of Josh's videos on various laptops, I'm feeling like the hp pavillion plus 14 is gonna be my only option in this price range - it's $1500AUD on sale, but then if I want to consider something that is a step up, like the hp spectre 14 that Josh recommends, I'm looking at like near the $3k mark for that TT TT. I know compared to the asus zenbook 14 (2023) the pavillion plus has less battery life and not as a good a build quality, but I feel like both have pretty good battery life anyways that I'm willing to trade some battery for the extra performace of the pavillion plus' cpu. I also was not prepared to sacrifice screen quality with a 2024 zenbook (the difference in PPI is WILD).
How would you say the battery life and performance are? I'm always wary that there's only so much you can get from these sorts of tests and that real-world performance and use will shift things
ive own the zen 3+ variant for 3 months and I think its a good well rounded laptop that hits most checks. I also recomend disabling turbo boost it runs 10-15c lower which is pretty nice the rtx 3050 is no powet house but it is enough for light gaming
Very happy the Zenbook 14x went on sale for $700 today!
0:45 love you too buddy
Awh
You guys should make a Zenbook 14 vs Slim Pro 7 review.
2:26 made me stick to my HP purchase. Thanks Josh for detailed info and comparisons.
Hey Josh, could you look into the acoustics of your room/setup? There's an echo or ringing to your voice and it's distracting. Thanks for your effort and keep up the good work!
I am, yes. We are installing sound dampening on the roof week after next. Apologies about this, but improvements are coming
I have the slim 7 pro X and it's phenomenal... The 3.1k display @ 120hz and puresight IPS is really incredible for watching videos and some random work.
I bought one with 7840hs 32 GB of ram and 1 tb storage for 1799 in Australia and it's cheaper than Zenbook, for the use that I beed it's more than perfect
Love you for making this video basically taking a detour. Love your integrity josh ❤😊
Thanks, I appreciate the nice comment. We wanted to get back to you guys and not leave you with potentially incorrect information
This was a god sent review. I’ve been conflicted between getting the legion slim 5 14inch but wish it had touchscreen so I’ve been looking at the pro 7 and yoga 9i.
I know Asus ROG would be a great fit but I had so many issues with my last gaming laptop from years ago and sending it in for repairs several times that I want to try a different brand.
I want dedicated graphics, preferably 32gb is upgrading isn’t an option and a touchscreen with low fan noise and heat.
I’m a casual all round user that believes in longevity when it comes to tech so I don’t want to make the wrong call and be stuck with the laptop
The nice thing is Lenovo publishes their service manuals and makes repair parts easily accessible; in a world where it is rare to find these things, it is a huge plus
Please do a review on the yoga slim 7
OHHHHHH The laptop that isn't on sale in the USA but we sneakily got one anyway.... we will try if we have time before the end of the year
I heard that in actual games the 680m and 780m are identical.
Maybe more testing on this is worth it?
There are a lot of laptops with these chips and no dedicated graphics, and also a lot of handhelds too
We will do a Timespy run on each so we know internally and can mention it in future for laptops without dedicated GPU
@garrusvakarian8709 Great idea. We might start doing that. Super helpful
@@garrusvakarian8709 I'll bring it up with the team and we can try it
they are not identical. 680M uses RDNA2 architecture for its Compute Units, while 780M uses RDNA3. The performance difference is not huge, but the display and media engine is also upgraded so you get AV1, DP2.1, HDMI 2.1, etc etc. In games the difference is not very big, you are right.
I have the Slim Pro 7 Zen 4 and the ASUS 14 (I am deciding which one to return). The Slim 7 screen looks very dim for 350nits, the white balance is off so I think that's why it looks dim. The whites look cream coloured, making it look dull and less easy to read. That paired with the glossy screen is a mistake on Lenovo's part. Frustrating as I like everything else about it (minus the power button, which is annoying).
the ASUS 14 screen is SHARP and bright, but I could only get one with the version with 5 7530U, which may be the culprit for the horrible fan noise even with light use. This thing sounds like a plane taking off, compared to the Slim 7 being very quiet.
I got my 7840hs model on sale at $859 with an additional nursing discount for a total of $816.99.
While the 3050 6gb dedicated GPU isn't a powerhouse, it does give me additional capability to do some light gaming while traveling. This is a definite bonus in my book.
If you can get this laptop for under $1000, it seems like a solid contender.
Good price!
The macbook air m2 with 8gbs of ram is better than the Slim pro 7 $900 model for programming? I have doubts about it and I cant afford the 16gb upgrade on macbook.
What do you think about the Yoga Pro 7 14 GEN 9? I just bought it for £680 on sale and it has:
AMD Ryzen 7 8845HS Processor (3.80 GHz up to 5.10 GHz)
Integrated AMD Radeon 780M
16 GB LPDDR5X-6400MHz
512 GB SSD M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 TLC
14.5" 3K (3072 x 1920), IPS, Anti-Glare, Non-Touch, 100%DCI-P3, 400 nits, 120Hz
I think this version is a lot better than the model you have just reviewed. The 400 nits is surely better than the 350 nits version you were reviewing it also has a 3K 120Hz resolution compared to the 2.5k 90Hz one you reviewed. I think this newer model seems pretty good for the price I bought it for. The only thing I would want is 32GB RAM but I think I will do fine with 16GB. I am going to University in September to study software development so I needed a new laptop and for the price range I bought it at I couldn't find any better it was pretty much a no brainer for £680!
Can you review the IdeaPad Slim 5, with the i7 13th gen and OLED?
Josh I think your original review is actually very accurate. I got Yoga Pro 7 but returned it in a week. The trackpad is the absolute worst I’ve used on any laptop. The click unbearably loud and requires too much force. The hinge also feels stiff and cheap. Sometimes I can open with one hand, sometimes not. I dare say the track pad and hinge are worse than my Legion pro 7i gaming laptop. I guess most people just completely overlook or don’t care about these things.
I agree with u, the click is really loud and the hinge just feels weird. I hope it can last long if not its on the warranty to cover.
You should try some of these goverment Lenovos I have to use :/
Josh, I appreciate you honesty and transparency! Integrity is something some tech channels lack, but you have a lot of it! Keeo up the good work :)
honestly, you had me in wonders for not buying the laptop for couple of months and now that I have bought it, I must say that the only thing you were right about, might be the mouse pad, its very responsive but it gives out click which i prefarably dont like and since i never use my mouse pad, I would give 5 out of 5 for this laptop
Great video Josh! You are the best laptop reviewer I have seen on the internet, and it is clear that you are dedicated. You pay attention to details that affect the buyer and you are so transparent. These are qualities that are rare in the laptop reviewing community. You could maybe try putting on some low background music, jazz or something. And make a short intro maybe? Anyways, to you and your team, keep up the amazing work!! 🙌😊
Is this laptop called the yoga pro 7 in Europe? I ordered this model with the 7840hs and no gpu and seeing the benchmarks I think it’s a good idea to only have the apu since it’s only like 15% slower than the 3050
Its only 15 slower but much slower when it comes to render and video editing, that the power of external gpu
Just watching this aftwr having bought the laptop bwcause I was so unhappy with it. Couldn't really tell what it was except for the keyboard. Well it's pretty much all the things you said. I dislike the keyboard. Mainly for ity missing Home and End keys and its collection of unnecessary stupid shortcuts. Must of them are windows shortcuts (Win + letter) anyways. The display is good though. But battery life felt underwhelming. My version came with only win hello face detection and it sucks.
Thanks so much for the update! So, not the big difference people where claiming (including me :D)
I have both the Schenker Vision 14 and the Slim Pro 7 here and between the two, the Lenovo machine just seems better built, cooler, more efficient. It's good enough for me to keep. Also I have the 400 nits screen with a 4050 that runs at 35W. The amount of different configurations for this chassis is definitely too many and at this point it seems like Lenovo is trying to confuse its buyers.
Please Josh... Don't make silly clickbait faces for thinbnails.
I literally changed the thumbnail before going live to NOT be clickbaity! The one before this was "Best Laptop Under $1,000?". I thought that was too clickbaity and missleading. What is wrong with this one? - pls let me know
@@JustJoshTechi just think your face looks ridiculous with your mouth open like that 😂 Mary Poppins said it best: "Close your mouth, please, [Josh]. We are not a codfish"
@@JustJoshTechthey're talking about the face you make in the thumbnail -- not the text or title. I find it amusing fwiw
@@MoneybagsUkuleleTo be fair, other CZcamsrs have complained that it works so they kind of have no choice. I don't think most of them enjoy doing it.
When you're old and trying to be trendy.... bruh....
Hi Josh! Could I have your quick take on which Lenovo laptop would work best for office work and light gaming?
1. Legion Slim 7i (13700H, 16GB, 4060, ~$850 refurb)
2. Slim Pro 9i 16" (13905H, 32GB, 4050, ~$1000 refurb)
3. Legion Slim 5 14" (7840HS, 32GB, 4060, ~$1250 new)
Congratulations, you've picked some amazing laptops. If that's the 16inch Slim Pro 9i I would take that in a heartbeat over the others. If its the 14inch.... yeah i'd still take that tbh. I'd say 1) Slim Pro 9i, 2) Legion Slim 7i, and 3) Slim 5 14
Slim 5 14 is actually quite a big laptop btw, so to go to the Slim 7i from that is not a huge portability hit. The Slim 5 14 is a 14.5 inch screen. The Slim 7i is a 16. Plus the Slim 7i is a much nicer machine.
Please use our links if you buy, it helps grow the channel
@@JustJoshTech Sorry, forgot to mention that it is the 16" Slim Pro 9i. If I'm honest, the only reason the Slim 5 14" is there is because of the OLED. How would you say it compares to the Slim Pro 9i's Mini-LED?
It's interesting that the Slim 5 14" is actually not that much smaller than the others. It doesn't really look thinner than either the Slim Pro 9i or Legion Slim 7i.
I don't like that the Slim Pro 9i only has 2 USB-As or that it's up and down arrows are half-size. I wish it had a similar layout to the Legions with full-sized arrow keys, but perhaps that would have conflicted with the touchpad somewhat.
The refurbs are from eBay, so I don't think your links redirect there, unfortunately. Thanks for the input!
Hey Josh thanks again for the video and the great work but I'm still confused tbh, I'm strating to get lost with all the different version of each computer models, so to make things short I'm in Europe and there's a deal for the yoga slim 7 pro x at 854€, Ryzen 6800h, 1TB, 32GB, IPS 3K . The zenbook 14, Ryzen 7 7730U with 512GB, 16GB, IPS WQXGA is around 890€, would you still consider this one over the lenovo? I've never used a mac and can't find any competitor in the same price range.
i really didn't expect the zen 4 variant isn't much more efficient than the zen 3 variant. how is that even possible when amd use better N4 node for zen 4 compared to N6 used for zen 3 variant? Or is there something that lenove screwed here?
@@garrusvakarian8709 thats make sense. However the extra performance come with extra power too. I know its a small bump in power but that's make me wonder how small the ipc improvement of zen 4 is. I remembered 14% ipc improvement in desktop part, but i have no idea about laptop processor.
I cant decide between the yoga pro 7 14" vs ideapad pro 5 14".
I've found both with the same zen 4 ryzen specs (8845hs) and rtx 3050 6gb.
The only difference is the ideapad has an oled with 100% DCI and the yoga is matte IPS with only 100% sRGB. Also according to the specs the ideapad has a slightly larger battery.
Which one should I get? They're the same price on sale right now
i bought a lenovo yoga slim 7 pro x with a ryzen 5 6600h and an rtx 3050 for 800euros , was is a good buy ?
Hey josh can we get the same comparison between the slim pro 9i and slim pro 9?
You empjasized the difference between the legion slim 7 and legion slim 7i, saying that you prefer the amd version. Also, what about differences in build quality between the slim pro 9 and legion slim 7? Because now, for all intents and purposes you can get the slim pro 9i or legion slik 7i with the same specs inside, which begs the question: how to pick one over the other?
Thanks for the honest follow-up.
Josh, would you recommend the slim pro 7 X from 2022? I see that one is cheaper, yet it seems to be slightly better.
Are we getting screwed in europe? I cant find a legion slim 7 even a little close the same price as the yoga 7 pro. They are mor like 700 hundred euros more. :D
can you review the asus zen book pro?
The slim pro x with the 6900HS and 32GB and 1TB SSD and RTX 3050 can be found for $700, this is the clear winner for me.
where did you find it? 0:
Excellent Josh! Thanks for listening to your community and for your honest follow up. Much respect to you!
Interesting that the argument was the Zen generation. I have no problems with Zen 3 on the Zenbook 14X compared to the Zen 3 on the Slim Pro 7 that I tried. A night and day difference in usability that had nothing to do with maximum performance capabilities. The Slim Pro 7 was continually lagging and stuttering.... The Zenbook 14x has performed flawlessly and for a lot less money.
hey Josh, right now the Yoga Pro 7 with 7840HS, 32GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 2560x1600 IPS 90hHz and no dGPU is available here in the Netherlands for 949 euros including 21% VAT. Its the lowest priced 14 inch, high performance 32GB laptop right now. That is about 784 euros without VAT, probably 800+ USD. I have been looking for a dev laptop with a dGPU on the level of the 780M, so do you think this one seems worth it? Also, any comment on Yoga hinges?
Hoping for a 2024 Lenovo Yoga Pro 7 with Intel Ultra review soon!
Oh yes we are trying! We have alot of laptops in. Its one we do plan to review, or at least have in our student round up video
@@JustJoshTech Great!! As a student I'm excited!
Keep being awesome!
@@JustJoshTech ah, this is wonderful timing. i hope you do review the lenovo yoga pro 7i with the intel ultra and rtx 4050/60. im a university student and is going to enroll soon, and honestly i havent been able to find a proper review on this unit. looking forward to the video!
@@calvin4721 I am getting mine in a couple of days. Do wish that they gave the chassis from the Pro 9i 14" for it though (SD card reader + another Type A + 20W TGP boost)
I just got this laptop this week, i had to get the 7735hs version as they dont sell the 7840hs in the UK as far as im aware. I had to get it though as it was only £625 ($788)
That unchanged efficiency is one of thr wierdest things I have seen in the laptop space in a while. Lenovo/AMD must of seriously messed up the Volt/frequency curve on the Zen 4 model for it not to be appreciatively better since it is running on a much better process node.
You are spot on. If you push too much power into these processors, they become less efficient
@@JustJoshTech It isn't just that, the voltage you set per frequency is the other factor in efficiency since if you can set the voltage to a lower value per amount of frequency it will consume less power per amount of work done. This would show itself both at the stress test but also crucially at the battery life test you run. I believe that is the reason why the Zen 4 U series are so much better than the HS versions because all that is different between these chips is power limits but primarily is the Volt/frequency tuning.
All nodes on the first version experience poor efficiency. As we get to smaller nodes, it does appear that it takes longer for them to get the process right. An example is TSMC and Samsung 3nm modes; both report issues with efficiency on their N3. TSMC will become more efficient on version 2.
I just picked one of these up as a Best Buy open-box fair for $413.99 that was in perfect shape and included the 140W USB-C charger. At that price, I think it was a steal. I'm assuming BB did also, since I tried to buy another one an hour later, and they went up to $638.99. :(
Can you review the slim pro 7i the new one? I just saw it on their website but unsure if its an upgrade or downgrade
This has got to be a joke right? A Macbook air is easily 500€ more for even the lowest end version. I also cant actually configure the yoga to have as little storage in both ssd and ram as the highest end Mac book air. The Zenbook is the better comparison but sadly thats only available with Zen 3+ in its regular version. For Zen 4 you gotta uptier.
In the USA the MacBook Air is same price
@@JustJoshTech Configured to 16 gigs and 512 gig ssd like the base model yoga its 400$ more again.
You are compromising on every other metric for higher spec. If you want a great laptop, the MB Air M2 is miles better, from speaker, keyboard, trackpad, battery life, fan noise, quality, etc. Obviously, you are trading that off with lower specs (8GB/256GB). But the Air will give you a far better experience for those that are fine with that.
@@andyH_England Depends which OS youre used to. Regardless of their products Apple is currently the spearhead in anti consumerism. Supporting that company is financial suicide short and even worse in the long term. The really bad thing is that other companies like Samsung are watching and learning. Theyre actively trying to remove themselves from the competitive market. A game where the companies can only win and the consumer only lose.
Nice update, appreciate the response
In the Moment you get the zen 4 version with 32 ram and 1T storage for 1000Euro. Does this make it much better with twice the RAM capacity or not? Happy to learn from your knowledge! thank you!
For all the hype that was surrounding Zen 4 CPUs… I don’t seem to see any drastic changes in the battery life or the fan noise area. Am I crazy or was this just overhyped?
There is version with 7840s it is very interesting
I got this for 1200 aud, an absolute steal.
That is a good deal!
Managed to get it at the exact same price as you in the UK
Need a laptop under 1000$ for software development without sales because there are no sales in Nepal
Zenbook 14X is what i'd get.
Thank you for the reply
Hi Josh, do you know much about monitors? If so would welcome your opinion on the best monitors to pair with a Mac mini.
We use these in the studio and video editing area. We tested quite a few to choose this one: amzn.to/3R1OzY8 . Its 27inch, 4k, great color reproduction, and on a big sale :)
@@JustJoshTech Thank you very much! The only downside is the terrible looking base. Is the 4K resolution scaling a significant issue?
could you please make a video on the difference between the 7735 lenovo pro 7 vs the lenovo yoga 7 pro x 6800 on best buy
can you please make a video review about lenovo thinkbook g5+ with option zyren 7 7840H too. i just want a laptop for work but i think this the only one that have sceen and batery life match to me, if you have another option then let me know. I already think about macbook 14 but its over package to me :(
Hello, I just bought a Dell Inspiron 16" with 13th gen i7 and rtx 2050, could you please make a review on this laptops, all reviews I've seen so far are quite bad and you are the king of laptops review, I really need your opinion.
Screwed it up again. You were supposd to review the Yoga Slim 7 (non-pro). It's actually a different device! The screen is different on that one amongst other things. Not available in the US tho, and the Lenovo model naming is confusing AF, so can't blame you.
Can you review the IdeaPad 5i Pro 16 with i7-13700H and RTX 4050?
Josh the pro 7 amd ryzen 7 6800 is on sale for $799. Do you recommend this over asus zenbook 14x evo ?
I would say yes if you want a dGPU and don't want to worry about OLED burn in
Would it be possible to undervolt the 7840HS in order to get the same battery performance compared to the Zenbook 14 CPU?
Have you done the Intel ultra version of the 7i
Not a dedicated review. It's in an upcoming video in May though
Should I buy an intel or amd gaming laptop?
Is this good for 4k video editing and creator work?
You should have reviewed the one with 7840 cpu and 780 gpu, that’s the one everyone talks about, don’t know if it’s in us to be honest, so hard to get I guess
Yes, because all pro users are a bunch of middle aged men that make youtube videos complaining about stuff and they need to edit them. Engineers, architects, that work on medium to large projects that don't need 5k workstations and use windows only software (that cost 15k a license) are not pros. For them even the most expensive MacBook would be useless. No, you need a vlog or a degree in complaining a button is placed wrong to be a pro, or to be a podex.
The 7840hs without dgpu should be lighter no?
I remember being hyped for this laptop because they promised it would get an rtx 4050 eventually. Half a year after the release, it hasn’t come out. A shame, but I got the 7735hs and 3050 for 850$. Good deal, but I would have paid extra for the much more efficient gpu any day.
It has come out. Typing this comment right now on a Yoga Pro 7 7840HS and RTX 4050
@@jins86 They haven’t released that in the US it seems, even though they promised both the yoga pro and slim pro getting the 4050…
@@milkyy4168 Ah, that sucks. Lenovo's practice with all the different configurations is pretty frustrating. Over here in Finland it was difficult to find a variant with any RTX gpu and more than 512gb disk space without a big jump in price.
Not to mention some worse Yoga variants were being sold at higher prices compared to better ones.
@@jins86 Yup. It’s so confusing that there’s the yoga 9i pro with no DGPU, and it’s a convertible, yet they have a different yoga 9i pro that isn’t a convertible, and has a rtx 4070 and core i9??? It’s so weird.
02:08 HP Pavilion Plus again with hight performance per watt than an laptop running an ARM chip. That laptop is a steal for the low price. Would be interesting to see what AMD can achieve when they design ARM APUs.
Agreed. I should have put that in
@@JustJoshTech Although it would be different to your usual content, so not likely to be considered, it would be interesting to get your thoughts on the upcoming prospect of Qualcomm powered laptops.
Please please please review the i7 and rtx 4050 configuration
Cause i have a feeling you'll like it
Its has a better 3k factory color corrected 120hz display
Some i7 13gen
And an rtx 4050
While having great thermals and like great battery life for the configuration
It is not available here at all. Sorry
Terrific Comparison--- I found a razor 16 -- 4070 for about 2100 usd. I could not find a comparison between that and the 9i - 4060. But the 9i has the more superior screen to the 7i slim. Would you suggest the 9i over the blade 16 4070?
Hi Josh! I absolutely love your videos - I’ve been watching since the days of that 2 room apartment where you had to film at specific times in the day to beat the glare! I’ve been torn, and I’m wondering: I’m a law student, and have noticed my M1 MacBook Air 8gb slowing down in terms of the tabs I can have open, but I mainly just have a lot of different windows open at once, and switch between them. I really like laptops that are portable, but would also like a slightly bigger screen to be able to multitask better. I really prefer a small footprint, though. The question is, do I get the M2 Air 13 with 16-24 gigs of ram, or wait until the M3 Air, and hope that the 15 inch comes with more ports and is a bit lighter?🧐 With how I use my laptop 8 hours a day, I would appreciate the bigger screen, but the heaviest laptop I’ve used was the 3.0 pound MacBook Pro from 2018, and once you’ve used the Air for 3 years, anything heavier feels massive 😅 Thank you so much, and keep up the wonderful work!
Firstly wow, big thanks for watching so long.
There is always something better coming. For your use case a 13inch or 15inch MacBook Air with 16g of memory would be ideal.... so long as you can buy from somewhere like B&H which offers discounts on custom configs. I can give you a link if you can find it there (the links help the channel)
the 15inch is already ludicrously light for what it is. The 13inch with m2 has a larger display than the m1 air which you'll notice.
Btw they don't tend to discount newer laptops as much, which kind of offsets the .... wait for a new one vs buy now. That is why its critical you only buy one now IF you get at leasst $200 off MRSP to offset that. Hopefully that makes sense
Props for recommending the ASUS laptop...but if i'm looking into windows laptop reviews, why even bother suggesting a Mac? most people that want Macs don't watch windows laptop reviews.
I want the review of yoga slim7 with 7840S cpu not slim7 pro with 7840hs cpu.
Yeah we have one, it just arrived last week. It isn't available in the USA. We had to order one in
Respect! Have to admit. zen4 was a big disappointment in that laptop.
I'd save money and get 7735. But since intel in my country is cheaper, I'd go with intel .
Thank you Josh
Can you review the Lenovo Slim 7 pro with intel i7-13700h and RTX 4050? I think its much better than this one...
You guys! We've already done 2 configs of this laptop :) In all seriousness, I think we need to cover some other laptops now... but an RTX 4050 is a huge step up. So i'd definitely get the config you mentioned if it were available here in the USA. Just expect poor battery life from a 13700H in a small laptop like this
If this is the one I'm think of, try to seeing it in person, as the Slim Pro 7i here in Canada comes with a light grey keyboard with white letters. Making is frustrating and impossible to see in some cases.
@@JustJoshTech Yea fair enough.
Your alternatives are ridiculous atleast in Europe. With the same RAM and SSD the MacBook Air M2 costs 60% more.
Apologies, but right now its hard for us to track non-US prices. As the team grows I do intend to do this.
what is with the silly faces in thumbnails? is your demo audience in the 10-12 year old segment?
The real winner in this comparison is the 7840u
So Ryzen 7840U is the only excellent processor
Yes. Zen4 lower powered is amazing
who should consider buying "used" Macbook (it doesn't cost less than $1000) comparing to a "new" Lenovo? Only Mac lovers.
Zenbook? It doesn't have dedicated GPU, unfair comparison. Yes, I'm a fan of Zenbooks, I had the most first one 10 years ago (it's still around). But the comparison between these 2 devices is unfair, Asus just can't compete (anymore). In particular, there are no Zenbooks with 7840/7940hs and dedicated GPU. And the ones without dGPU aren't competitors for that Lenovo. The ones with Intel CPU are MUCH more expensive and non-comparable from performance/watt perspective (and in overall - worse device for the same money).
So again - the video contains only excuses and proof of incompetence. Sorry, that's a bad behavior for hardware reviewers. Just accept your failure and incompetence, and use it as a space for mindset growth.
One actual rival for that "Creators" laptop - Asus Creator laptop. It's very similar in specs, but it has Intel CPU (which is more expensive and less energy efficient by default). The model is Q540VJ-I93050 (or 90NB11K3-M00380), but it has subpar 13900h (which is relatively the same as 7840hs from performance perspective, but less energy efficient). And that laptop _IS_ $100-$200 more expensive. Oh, and it's 15.6'' (but I can't say is it better or worse, for me - worse). And yes, it uses round jack for power supply, which is not so great in 2024 =). And 150w charger (which is obviously worse from Type-C charging perspective).
Man blah blah senbook does not have graphics card
Hey Josh,
Hope you are well. I remember the video where you mentioned the importance and crisis Ukraine is facing. I was impressed and happy…thanks.
I also noticed that the same thing has been for a while in Palestine too. I feel both are of great importance and really the genocide of civilians must be stopped.
Hope you feel the same buddy ❤
Bye the way, I love your content, please keep up the great work and effort 😊
M2 macbook. Done. No other review needed