Set Up A Fiber Laser Rotary Tool with EZCAD | COMPLETE GUIDE
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You guys have waited a long long long long long long time for this, and it's finally here! In this absolutely COMPLETE beginners guide I'll take you through every single step required between unboxing your fiber laser rotary and marking your first cylindrical object! The road is treacherous ahead but if you stay sharp and pay close attention you might just make it to the other side of this in one piece! Let's do it!
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0:00 - Intro - Overview
1:50 - Initial Considerations
2:47 - Controller Overview
3:15 - Connecting Things
5:08 - Straightening
7:03 - Leveling
9:41 - Focusing
10:26 - Importing and Centering Artwork
10:58 - Hatch Settings
12:55 - Engraving Settings (Engrave)
13:14 - Red Laser Preview
13:30 - RotaryMark Parameters
15:01 - Selecting an Axis
16:00 - Pulse Rev (Pulses per round)
21:08 - Rotate Axis Settings
22:25 - Coordinate and Speed Settings
23:40 - Start Position
24:17 - Zero Settings and Homing
25:20 - Continuous and Mark Selected
26:17 - Split Size
27:34 - Part Diameter
28:30 - Rotary Red Laser Preview
28:55 - Rotary Engraving - First Pass
29:02 - Engraving Settings (Anneal)
30:06 - Rotary Engraving - Anneal Pass
30:23 - Final Look
31:26 - Final Thoughts
31:42 - Outro - Supporting the Channel
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Stepper Motor Snobs: I know pulse rev != steps - I'm just trying to explain it in a way that makes sense for beginners. You can skip leaving the hate mail below.
You got it dude!
how to deal with a rotary that won't turn, even though the rotary can turn on??
This was so helpful. I don’t have a rotary tool yet but this took all of my trepidation out of the fear and trembling box and I’m confident that I can do it now. Great job Alex.
Wonderful! You're going to do great!
I'm new to Dremels, but this thing has been great. czcams.com/users/postUgkxfPgcZ5_Cl0HDUKkMJAKde11YKQZVgMoR The variable speed is awesome and the cordless aspect makes it so easy to work with. I am constantly finding uses for it that make tasks easier. Recently I put in a new deadbolt on one of our doors. I knew I had to enlarge the hold where the deadbolt goes into the door frame. At first I thought I would have to get a big router and figure out how to use it for that, but then I rermembered we have the dremel. I was able to enlarge the hole almost as easy as if I was drawing with a pen. It's also great for grinding our dog's nails done and so many other household tasks.
Thanks for watching!
Helpful video just like all of your videos. Your channel has helped me out big time at getting the hang of learning the fiber laser. Your settings at least put me in the right corner of the spectrum and are not far off from my machine. I’m glad you are open about all your settings and are very helpful. Most ppl don’t want to share settings or give help for free they act like they have the fiber process patented like it’s a huge secret lol. But what you are doing is very generous and helpful for people starting out. You are really helping build the laser community and I wish you the best of luck with your channel. Thanks!
Thanks for watching Travis! Glad you're getting value out of it!
Your videos kick ass. I'm one week into my laser experience, and because of you, it's been pretty smooth sailing. Thank you!
I'm so glad to hear that you're getting value out of the videos, thanks for watching! Glad to have you around!
Great advice on the hatch direction. I imagine the split size will really depend on the curvature of the object and the depth of focus of the installed lens.
Great point! Definitely can go down the rabbit hole on "what's best" for each specific situation. Definitely wanted to keep things simple for people just getting started but I'm really excited to explore the nuances of all this on the channel down the road!!
Thank you SO MUCH for making this video! I got the same rotary and have been procrastinating setting it up. Going to watch the video tonight and set it up tomorrow!
Good luck, have fun!
I am about to buy a rotary for my fiber. this is going to be super helpful. Thanks for taking the time to make this video!
So glad it helped you out!
After almost 2 years of putting off using the rotary attachment because I didn't know how to make it work, this video helped me finally get it working. Still have some engraving settings to tweak. Thanks for making this available!!
Wow, glad to hear it 👍 thanks for watching
Thank you Alex,I am totally new to this.Bought a 50 w JPT and inn the process of joining your site.
Amazing! I hope it works out for you. Let me know if you need more help. Don't skip the "beginners playlist" on the main channel page!
Thank you so much for the video it will definitely help me a lot you explain it good but sort so you don’t get bored and fall asleep greatly appreciate your work
No prob glad you like them so much!
Thank you for the video. Very helpful. Time to dust off my unused rotary and start marking. I appreciate the info 👍🏻
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
thank you had to use rotate text mark on mine but works perfect thank you for the help
Great video, it helped me a lot in putting the right value
To rotate the motor by table and switches with the correct value
thanks a lot
Mohamed from Egypt
Glad it helped Mohamed!
Awesome video. I still refer back to it when doing rotary as a reference. Great work!
Cool, thanks! Glad it helped you!
Thanks Alex, very helpful. Keep up the good work.
Amazing content... Thank you for your dedication it helped us a lot. I'm eager for more rotary content in the future 🤩👏👏
You keep watching and I'll keep making them!
Very helpful vdo. I’ve a rotary but never try to engrave. Hope i’ll learn from u time to time.
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching :)
I have been so intimidated by the rotary, but with this video and lightburn, I was able to get up and running almost immediately and engraved a bolt-action pen for someone for Christmas! It isn't nearly as hard as I expected.
So glad to hear it helped you. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for all the HELP!
Happy to help! So glad you're getting value out of it :)
Yay! Was having issues setting up a rotary. Nice Guide!
Sweeeeeet! Hope its working now!
so helpful.... first day unboxing my rotary tool... at least its a starting place to get a mark! nice one!
Glad it helped you!!!
Thank you for the useful information.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
Awesome video, thank you!
Glad it helped!
Great video, well explained, thank you!!!!
Glad it helped you!!
Super helpful video. Once again you have helped me out.. thank you soooooo much..
You are so welcome!
Thanks for your Time explain that to us.
I am new at Fiber Laser so i need as much Input as possible
Glad to help
My man, really amazing videos and great help!
Glad you like them, thanks for stopping by!
Excellent Info!!!
Thanks!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for stopping by, hope to see you again!
Great channel! Learning a lot. Thank you. Subbed
Welcome aboard!
Thanks that has helped me 👍
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching!
I have had the tt fiber laser for about 4 months. Just not getting the rotary out and set up. Thank for the video.
You got it :P
I think I’ll buy laser and rotary tool together. Well done video.
That's a good way to do it. Thanks for watching!
Great video.. I learned a lot… thank you
So glad it helped you! :D
Thank's so much!!! Just like i needed!
Glad to hear it!
Thank you Godbless
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Thank you so much bro
You got it Matt! Thanks for watching!
thank you
Welcome!
Great video!
Thanks for the visit!
Soooooo fkn. Cooooool! This stuff is so high tech & you do a really great job of explaining it where a simple man, like myself can understand it. I have absolutely no business with a laser of any sort……. But it’s soooooooo coooool, I’m just fascinated & in love with it! So I ordered one!!! A Chinese 50w / JPT - Fiber laser w rotary & Ezcad2. It just shipped today, so not sure when I’ll actually get it. However, when I have it in hand, I’d love to retain you to video conferences & get some LIVE help. Your videos are AWESOME & I’ll DEFINITELY be leaning on them a lot! But I KNOW it’s easier to stay out of trouble than to get out of trouble!!! I want to do it RIGHT & avoid as many mistakes as possible!!! Cheers!
Your videos are so educative. For a complet newbie like me this video on the rotary tool was just a game changer, i had been having a problem with my rotary but after watching the video and following the steps everything just fonctions perfectly. Guys like and susbcribe to this channel. Definately a game changer
Great to hear! Thanks for watching!
super helpful! cheers bud :)
So glad it helped you!
Thanks
You're welcome!
VERY NICE
Thanks!
Oh My god..You'r Amazing..Share Everything Very Very Detail..Thank You So Much...I Hope You Healthy Always Bro..Oh ya can I Ask Something? What Different Laser Tumbler With Rotary Mark And Split Mart 2 ? Split Mark 2 For What? THANK YOU..
Thanks, glad you liked it! Split Mark plugins you are telling the laser where to split up the image for rotation based on lines you place on the graphic, Rotary mark you tell the laser where to split up the image based on how many steps the rotary takes between marks. That's the only real difference.
THANK YOU!
You're welcome! Thank you for watching :)
Great vid, I sure would like to find an all enclosed all in one stepper driver like that, very cool. One comment though, the head on my fiber laser is only secured by 4 bolts up where the horizontal arm meets the column. if you loosen those you can move the head forewords and backwards, so that you can get the center line of the laser lined up with the center line of the rotary. Sure seems like an easier way to center things? No more messing about in the software with offset lines and such. Correct me if I am thinking about it incorrectly though!
Wow I never noticed that, good eye! I will try to implement that soon!
My arm/head came out of the crate centered to fit in the shipping box, so step one was to slide it back otherwise the head was off the table.
Really really cool. It will help a lot.
U rocks. Hope one day i’ll meet u😊
Thanks for watching!
Getting good results. thanks Alex. Can I ask, when doing a round design it comes out elongated on a cylinder. How do you get past this, do you stretch out the design prior to engraving ?
You can but if you're seeing a LOT of skewing it could be a sign your pulses per revolution aren't set correctly. Stretching can visually fix the issue a bit but your line distance and splits won't be accurate in that case. Best double check the dip switches on your controller and see if they match what's programmed in ezcad. We cover it in this video.
You don't happen to be in So Cal are you? I'd pay you to come down and train some of my employees. I absolutly love how you are so thourough in your explanation because despite being a craftsman of many trades and tooling, in my retirement now I own a jewelry shop and purchased a really expensive unit only to find out just what a big learning curve it is to do basic engravings little lone the things I want to do beyond just jewelry (I also want to do knives and gun parts) and find your videos amazing. This rotary setup is fantastic, I don't suppose you have one on engraving rings do you? Settings in EZCad2, etc? If not, maybe in your next video but thank you and please keep the videos coming in!
Rings are on my short list for early 2022, just got my ring rotary in. I'm in upstate NY so that's a bit of a drive lol but may be offering like consultation and coaching calls next year. Recorded sessions or something idk yet. We'll see. In the meantime have your employees join the discord and just keep an eye on the channel. Request episodes as needed and consider joining the Laser Master Academy masters.lasereverything.net
Good Video
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks!
Eres una maquina, muchas gracias
Thanks for watching!
Congrats on your baby :) I have my second on the way :D
I try to make living with my lasers but you know, it is
challenging.
Thanks for sharing info about rotary. Recently i have many requests on wedding rings with fingerprints on the inside. I do make the rings by myself, so usually i just laser fingerprints on flat strip of gold and make a ring afterwards. Have you ever tried to laser fingerprint using rotary on the inside of a ring? I have some issues with this :)
I haven't tried that specifically but it seems totally doable! I'm getting a new rotary tool that will allow me to do rings better than my current gigantic 80 mm one so I will see you about producing an episode on the topic, hopefully that'll help!
Dear friend I’m watching your blog for longe times I’m really learn from you i wild like to thanks you for all information and all hard work .
If you can tell me witch machine its good for birds rings, and witch sources it’s perfect for birds rings .
30 or 50w Mactron JPT would do great, there's links in the description.
Awesome, great information on this video. I am a little cautious using fiber laser with rotary tool. I always worry about the little lines left behind. On a side note, I was waiting yesterday for the LED video with Jimmy.
Yes the LED video is coming up really soon, that's another GIANT editing project for me and I've been promising this one for a long time so I had to get this one out for the folks who have been patiently waiting for it first. Don't worry, LED signs are coming up real soon!
Would you post a picture illustrating the problematic "little lines"? I'm curious. Would like to avoid.
I'll see what I can do about reproducing that for ya
Tnks 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
You got it!
Muito obrigado, esse vídeo me ajudou muito 🙏
Hellooo Thanks for a hundredth time ! This Video taught me a lot, to have my rotary running ! I have issues with Split lines, as in after engraving every section, theres a distortion line in between as it engraves, please how do i get rid of them ? Could it be because my part diameter isn't Accurate ? Thanks
Hello videos have been great help. I have ran into an issue under rotarymark when I hit Light it will light but can never back out of it have to end task in task manager. If I hit mark the red laser outlines and rotary moves but not marking
Hit the escape key to exit 😊
Great video! Please can you make a tutorial of ring engraving with rotary tool, gold and silver, maybe how to engrave draws not only letters, i am trying to do it perfectly
Yes of course there will be lots more rotary videos coming down the road.
I would love to see this too please
Really helpful video and great channel, congratulations. I am following your advice but I have that message on my screen:
Axis must be Homed, Would you like to continue?
Once accepted I got another message:
Correct axis zero time out!
Any advice would be appreciated as I cannot use the machine until sorting this out.
Thank you!
Hi Alex great video!
I followed it today but then my laser kind of lost its mojo in the RotaryMark section. It was working fine, in focus and would laser in the main EZCAD interface but when I started going into the RotaryMark superstructure interface it rotated the chuck etc but it wasn’t marking, any ideas as it’s driving me crazy! Cheers for any help! Bobby
Hello Alex, Great video as always. I have a quick question we 2 of them. What would be the preferred lens size to use for tumblers and what size did you you use in the video? Thanks,
I used the 300 for this video. That's what I would recommend on the fiber!
Thank you so much for the videos! I'm new here, and we're just getting our feet wet with the Cloudray 50w fiber laser . I have some specific questions to ask - do I ask here or send directly to you, or???
Great video. Im running into a problem where the box you said to not worry about is on all of my new projects, how do i get rid of it?
Great video - very helpful! What level is that? I see that its Starrett, but what model?
Thank you!
135A, link in the 2021 Buying Guide:
www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide
if draw a rectangle, after engrave and measure the Y , there is error , marked larger than it should be.
Very helpful for me. Can you please tell me what W machine are you using in this project?
This was done with our 30w JPT LP Mactron Fiber :)
Hi Alex! Thanks a lot, that was a great help! But I am facing a strange issue: the red-lighting seems to stay active when marking.. is that related to any setting that I have missed?
Just depends on how your controller is wired up. If it's not hurting anything I'd leave it be.
Great video!! Thank you for sharing all that you do. Is it possible to engrave the interior of a ring using the rotary?
Yes, you just need a rotary that will hold the ring on the outside and then you place the rotary at a 45° angle or so to the beam coming in then you can rotate the ring. Some copies of ezcad even have a ring rotary mark plug in installed that you can use to make the process easy. I have some rings now I'll upload a video on this soon.
@@LaserEverything Thank you so much for responding so quickly!! That’s great to know, will be looking forward to your session on this. Again, thank you!!
@@celbur unclick the invert when doing the inner side of objects
Hi!!i follow ypur videoa a lot. Can you do a tutorial of wood for with a 50w fibet laser
Fiber lasers aren't very good at marking wood. Typically the energy density is too high by the time you're marking the wood which results in a fire and lots of burning. While I don't typically recommend it we may do a video on it in the future to demonstrate why.
Hi, we love your videos. When following along we noticed we don't have any of the add ons for the laser dropdown tab. There's only three selections in there but nothing for rotary. We have ezcad 3. Can you help us out on what to do? Please
Ezcad 3 doesn't have the same plugin support ezcad 2 does. What you need to do is head into F3 Param, find the Extension Axis section and activate the A axis, the mark/light area of the screen at the bottom will then have the rotary settings you're looking for.
OOT but Thank God that i lived the DOS PC era...those "advance machines" at that time sure love their Dip Swithes.... 😂 some times had 4 set (!!!) dip switches with no guide of what so ever, and that is the kind of living nightmare that i'm glad we all passed now a days...
Yeah absolutely! Even with a chart to reference they can definitely feel sketchy!
how do I go about getting it black is there a setting for that or I need to use a spray ?
Hey Alex, great video it has helped a ton. Currently I am having a problem with using my rotary. I have done everything in this video including the steps per rotation. It will put everything in the tumbler just fine. The problem is it runs the same power and speed no matter what I change it to. I have tried the community edition and my issue over there is everything I run is extremely fast no matter what I change it to. I have tried discord and I haven’t received any help. Can you help please?!
I'm honestly at a loss on this one. Sorry I didn't see your post in the discord, things move very fast over there. In your original copy of ezcad check to make sure Hatch #2 and Hatch #3 are completely disabled and thaty ou're only using Hatch #1 with mark contour and follow edge once disabled. The hatch should be uni or bidirectional with a zero degree hatch angle. Make sure that hatch is the same color as the parameter that you're applying to it as that could be why the parameters aren't changing. You may be editing the blue or red pen inadvertantly or editing the parameters for hatch 2 or 3 when you mean to be editing them for hatch 1. If that doesn't work try some of these trouble shooting tips for the community edition as well and it may help narrow down the issue.
Too small of a split size can be an issue too. The steppers have a set number of steps per rotation, and while geared down, small numbers can often lead to slightly inaccurate, or better put inconsistent, steps.
I guess as you said, trial a number that you choose and see if it works on the job diameter you have. If you see issues, change it slightly and see if this fixes it. I have seen video where people use from 0.05 through to 5mm with no issues (except speed) so once you find a working value for your job and your laser then note it down.
All good info - didn't wanna get that deep in this ep but there will be follow up eps for sure and we can talk about some of this stuff.
@@LaserEverything can’t wait. Great introductory video though and there is something for everyone there.
Happy to hear it!
What should be the power, speed and frequency settings on the fiber laser marking machine according to the material applied?
Much obliged sir, for your kind teaching.
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Well you sir, just taught me how to make a fishing rod.... even if i can't fish, i certainly do bargain to fisherman...😁👍
God Bless you, dear good sir.
Happy to help, sub for more and let me know if there's anything you ever want to learn.
@@LaserEverything Done that...will do...😁
thankyou and I have one question is that where do we use a current table from sw1 sw2 and sw3?
The current table should be on the controller next to the pulse rev table. I don't usually recommend adjusting sw1, 2 and 3 unless you suspect you are having some kind of overdrive/underdrive power issue.
Hellp, very nice ure video. What is magic eraser? Tehnic alchool?or is a mix?
Regards, Liviu
If my image comes out grainy where you can see the lines do i need to change the step per rotation settings and switches?
Is there anyway to connect a rotary attachment to a 20W fiber laser?
Thank you for the video, I just pulled the rotary axis out of the box and did not know anything on how to set it up. My package did not come with a materials library for the speed/power/KHz canned settings , is this a file that can be shared? I would appreciate a head start on speeds and feeds for the Galvo (20w) I have an old beat up tumbler I am using for the test, I finally managed OK looking engraving. After a few botched attempts and a quick shot of matte balck over the tests I was able to run several tests on an otherwise junk piece. Maybe a hint for others, use a junk black tumbler, spray over tests to re use same piece for more testing, I know an erase pass (hatched rectangle fast and hot) would make the final engraving better but this is a test piece for me and mot worth the time and smoke in the shop.
Hey man, glad the video helped you! You can actually get instant access to my entire fiber laser and co2 laser libraries (updated MONTLY) by supporting the channel/podcast/community on our patreon page. You can check it out at www.patreon.com/lasereverything :)
Nice explaination.. can i have your library for setting power, Hertz ? Thx
masters.lasereverything.net/
Hello Alex, Can we engrave Champagne Glass with this Rotary ?? Thank you man
I'd say no, the giant metal chucks put way too much pressure on glass to hold them and end up shattering the glass. Check out a roller rotary or something like the new PiBurn Grip if you want a chuck.
It would be great if you could do a video on wrap around graphics using a rotary.. my workspace is 175mm x 175mm but the graphic I am trying to engrave is 250mm x 60mm.. not having any luck.
I'll add it to the list Dennis!
Hey your videos are very cool since i'm folliwing this i've learned alot. So i just purchased a laser engraver and i'm learning how to use is since i have no prior experience with this. I have a question how do i determine the price to give my customers? I really have an issue with pricing. Thank you hoping to have an answer soon
I'll try to do a video on this topic soon for you.
@@LaserEverything thank you
Question - when I use my rotary, the size doesn't match what is on the screen. For instance, my 20mm side item becomes 80 when I use the rotary tool. The diameter is set correctly. Is there something else that I am missing to fix this? Thanks for your help!
I noticed that by the end of the video you had "force all by split" enabled. Could you explain this setting and whether its necessary? Thanks!
Unnecessary and in this context does nothing. Just ignore it if you're following along with the video. RotaryMark handles split allocation fine on its own. Force all split has implications if you're trying to let ezcad decide where to make splits, which I don't recommended. Static small split sizes is 100% the way to go.
A wonderful educational video. I hope to add an Arabic translation
At video 6:44 use the arrows keys mean "up" and "down" keys to center the line to the rod? Or did you use the "left" and "right" keys? Thanks
It depends on the orientation of your tumbler and the rotary tool, so it will change depending on the project.
Can you change the split size in between passes on the object? Like, if you want it to be faster to reduce the time on the device the second pass?
I don't believe there's any way to do that currently in LightBurn or Ezcad without saving two project files and running one first, then opening the new project and running the second one after.
I’m so late to this video. But better late then never. Just got a 30 watt fiber laser and wanted to know if this machine with the power controller box is all I need I don’t have the controller inside the laser. But someone was telling me I need a stepper driver and the rotary is this essentially the same thing?
The external box should include a driver in the chassis
do you sell your parameter library for fiber laser 30w
Hello, how to speed up engraving on this rotary? It takes a long time to engrave anything. Thank you.
Just to add to the guide because it wasn't talked about. At 9:20 mark the mug wasn't fully seated against the chuck and will vary the engraving quality greatly because the level/distance will change as it rotates.
Good eye!
@@LaserEverything Receiving my machine today, already went through 7 of your videos to see beginner guides. Lots of help. Thanks. ^_^
I was about to say same thing. Couldn't see anything else lol. Great vid man. Looking to add one of these to my machine shop
teaches how to mark stanley cups, we are from Brazil
I'll look into it.
can you do rings on that rotary?
You can and we'll have an episode on that soon!
Hello Alex, thank you for this good video. Which version laser controller do you use? I have a FBLI-B-LV4 which only seems to work with Ezcad 2.14.11 lite and which misses the proper rotary package which you seem to use. I am talking about the galvo/laser controller, not the stepper driver. Best regards, and keep up the good stuff!
Try the Community Edition copy of ezcad on our website Ezcad 2 CE www.lasereverything.net/downloads but don't forget to copy over your settings from your F3 Param! Should give you the same experience you see in the video and works with Lite boards.
@@LaserEverything It works! Thank you, this is really helpfull!