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  • @BruskPoet
    @BruskPoet  Před rokem +1960

    Legion of Doom of Mortal Kombat

    • @OfficialBullyMaguire
      @OfficialBullyMaguire Před rokem +55

      That's a cute name, did Ed Boon give it to you?

    • @HAMZA_OLYMPUS
      @HAMZA_OLYMPUS Před rokem +10

      😂

    • @Endgame707
      @Endgame707 Před rokem +8

      @@OfficialBullyMaguire hey I’ve heard that you think it should be illegal for women to fart is that true?

    • @OfficialBullyMaguire
      @OfficialBullyMaguire Před rokem +13

      @@Endgame707 What're you talking about?

    • @Endgame707
      @Endgame707 Před rokem +5

      @@OfficialBullyMaguire Harry Osborn told me last night is it true

  • @ToonGrin
    @ToonGrin Před rokem +2653

    The bit where Quan Chi says "we're all treacherous by nature" sounds like such a Sith mentality.

  • @darkside9547
    @darkside9547 Před rokem +1752

    When Shao Kahn was more intelligent and calmer in the original timeline than in the current one.

    • @TVFILTHYFRANKV5
      @TVFILTHYFRANKV5 Před rokem

      The new Shao Kahn is maybe even dumber than Goro.

    • @FRANKHORRIGAN_ENCLAVESOLDIER
      @FRANKHORRIGAN_ENCLAVESOLDIER Před 11 měsíci +74

      Yeah way way more intelligent i only played mkx and mk11 but I’m planning on playing all the mk games and their storys. And I can see nrs hase the worst story’s which Kinda makes me sad bc there games are pretty good I look at midways games and the games of nrs and nrs is better in everything except story and game modes if they just made those better nrs would be the best game company to me. I mean they already are for me there dlc are kinda cheap if you look at other dlc prices of other games and making a fighter in a fighting game is not easy. Nrs is pretty cool actauly

    • @Pwilliams4000
      @Pwilliams4000 Před 11 měsíci +34

      I mean he did snap kung lao's neck

    • @Life4Ninja
      @Life4Ninja Před 11 měsíci +31

      When Nether realm cared about its characters

    • @FRANKHORRIGAN_ENCLAVESOLDIER
      @FRANKHORRIGAN_ENCLAVESOLDIER Před 11 měsíci +78

      @@Life4Ninja it was midway not nrs. Midway made the characters and nrs ruined them.

  • @undertaker9991
    @undertaker9991 Před 10 měsíci +139

    "I'll take that chance."
    Mk9: And so he did.

  • @henritaas9997
    @henritaas9997 Před rokem +3256

    That "EMPEROR Onaga!" Gives me chills
    Really hoping for Onaga to make an appearance on MK12. A man can dream ;-;

    • @agrubohub4009
      @agrubohub4009 Před rokem +179

      Seems to be the only logical step to me.
      Last time they came up with an original final boss it backfired.
      Onaga at least is more straightforward

    • @morgangamez
      @morgangamez Před rokem +101

      @@agrubohub4009 would love havik as a side villain who can win as well, also i don’t want chapters anymore

    • @henritaas9997
      @henritaas9997 Před rokem +39

      @@agrubohub4009 lorewise yeah, but I don't think netherrealm is caring much about the old timeline anymore

    • @SoleilPhoenix
      @SoleilPhoenix Před rokem +37

      MK is so fckd up now i doubt he appears.

    • @StillND
      @StillND Před rokem +16

      @Omega That’s ‘cause her an Johnny are descendants of some war cult that were made for Gods. Now Takeda taking out Onaga would be better.

  • @prodigal_rebel_2062
    @prodigal_rebel_2062 Před rokem +2375

    Being a villain while having a deep voice makes you sound like a total badass.

    • @Unchainedful
      @Unchainedful Před rokem +81

      And then having that badass walk Shao Kahn has makes you even more of a super badass.

    • @wadewilson333
      @wadewilson333 Před rokem +31

      Everyone except Xerxes from 300. I didn’t get much of a sense of badassery with him. Now, the chick from the second one. She was a tyrannical ruler. She would rule circles around Xerxes.

    • @hater5940
      @hater5940 Před rokem +10

      @@wadewilson333 Bitch he was so fancy!
      He got power of swag on his side....

    • @M613M
      @M613M Před rokem +18

      Absolutely true. Which makes it baffling that they changed Shinnok's badass voice from MK4 to a low rent Emperor Palpatine.

    • @rockk9753
      @rockk9753 Před rokem +12

      @@wadewilson333 Xerxes gives off that gay vibe thats why he doesnt seem badass even with his deep voice

  • @Jokester2004
    @Jokester2004 Před rokem +648

    Onaga: has lot of power
    Weakness: kicks

    • @lg6884
      @lg6884 Před rokem +148

      N O M O R E K I C K I N G !

    • @delorianholley6850
      @delorianholley6850 Před rokem +21

      @@lg6884 I was literally coming to comment this 🤣🥧

    • @maxcanonstunner6532
      @maxcanonstunner6532 Před rokem +17

      @@lg6884 I missed the part where that's my problem.

    • @bluejaydude1284
      @bluejaydude1284 Před rokem +20

      Especially Liu Kang's Bicycle Kick

    • @davidalonzojr8617
      @davidalonzojr8617 Před rokem +15

      ​@@bluejaydude1284 That was literally the only move that can damage Onaga regularly without the use of a Kamidogu.

  • @pacman10124
    @pacman10124 Před rokem +1972

    This scene seriously goes so hard, the absolute scale of having such major threats not only in the same room as one another but *_allying_* with one another is something we still have yet to see in the cinematic story modes to follow.
    and ending it off with Onaga's "To war!" with the triumphant music playing in the background as they walk into the portal is such a spectacle holy shit

    • @futekigo3574
      @futekigo3574 Před rokem +75

      Then after Onaga says to war. The hard stare him and Shao Kahn exchanges. Gives me chills!

    • @wwfwrestlemania2000
      @wwfwrestlemania2000 Před rokem +67

      That's because no one is any major threat anymore. Especially since MKX. Part of the greatness of these characters is that around this era we've seen them defeat some of the strongest heroes multiple times showing that them winning was always a real possibility. And then Shao Kahn did end up defeating Blaze in the end.

    • @cygnusprime6728
      @cygnusprime6728 Před rokem +87

      @@futekigo3574 despite the limited graphics they did a great job conveying the animosity between everyone in the room, especially Onaga and Kahn. It was cool how Kahn reasoned with Onaga while still maintaining a bit of cockiness "you're not emperor anymore". It shows how Kahn used to be such a great character when he was written well. He's an arrogant, violent brute, but he can be very pragmatic and cunning.

    • @futekigo3574
      @futekigo3574 Před rokem +60

      @@cygnusprime6728 yeah. Midway Shao Kahn is written way better than NRS Kahn

    • @skar8009
      @skar8009 Před rokem +18

      But Shinnok was smarter than all of them and sent a doppelganger in his place.

  • @Facelessbuster
    @Facelessbuster Před rokem +1369

    I love how smart Shao Kahn is here. Later games would make him a complete brute, basically what Onaga is here. "I’ll fight you all and win single handedly! Prepare to die!" But this one knows his limits and while he is strong, there are people stronger than him and he knows when to use force and when to use deception.

    • @anaknangfilipina5846
      @anaknangfilipina5846 Před rokem +162

      I know! Shame that the people who portray the Kahn as a brute is one of his creators.

    • @crashpal
      @crashpal Před rokem

      That's why Shao Kahn won Armageddon

    • @Thomas20Smith
      @Thomas20Smith Před rokem

      Right, NRS Shao Kahn is just an idiot

    • @HollowBerserk
      @HollowBerserk Před rokem +192

      Kahn here is def more of a diplomat/strategist than his new timeline counterpart.

    • @Burst-Omega
      @Burst-Omega Před rokem +157

      @ghostoftime1 Shao Kahn is only patient like this because in this timeline he'd had his teeth kicked in on 3 separate occasions in the last 15 years, new time line is still fresh from mk 2 where he'd been undefeated so his brutish arrogance is more understandable.

  • @valnovanoth
    @valnovanoth Před rokem +124

    Love how Onaga first openly threatens everyone, then shouts "To war" by posing himself as the leader and walks in the portal first by not being afraid to give his back to everyone else

    • @sparknazo
      @sparknazo Před 9 měsíci +29

      Realistically hes the strongest out of all of them just not the smartest lol

    • @mitrocepan9141
      @mitrocepan9141 Před 2 dny

      ​@@sparknazoOnaga is not the smartest? He betrayed Shukinko his entire life 😂😂😂

  • @RimeyCH
    @RimeyCH Před rokem +160

    "We are all treacherous by nature"
    Onaga: "I have literally never betrayed anyone... Yet..."

    • @TheNadroj10
      @TheNadroj10 Před rokem +64

      He betrayed shujinko. Really was playing and lying to him the entire time

    • @ElDuelistaPokeDex
      @ElDuelistaPokeDex Před rokem +27

      @@TheNadroj10 I don't think it's totally a betrayal because that was Onaga's plan from the start. Using Shujinko.

    • @RimeyCH
      @RimeyCH Před rokem +19

      @@TheNadroj10 Somehow I completely forgot about that one. Though I think that's more of a double cross.

    • @masontorres1852
      @masontorres1852 Před 10 měsíci +11

      ​@@RimeyCHIt's more of him using and manipulating Shujinko not betraying him

    • @JargonMadjin
      @JargonMadjin Před 9 měsíci +7

      Guys, what he did to Shujinko is literally in the title of the game - Deception

  • @Soul93Taker
    @Soul93Taker Před rokem +2424

    Man that Shao Kahn voice can make you grow a beard. Twice.

  • @Insomnia-Demon
    @Insomnia-Demon Před rokem +455

    I like that Onaga pretty much sets himself as the leader and then they all just fuckin pimp strut the fuck out of the throne room.

    • @lg6884
      @lg6884 Před rokem +117

      While Shao Kahn is the man, even he couldn’t take Onaga in a fair fight. He had to poison him before throwing hands. If he says let’s bounce you say how high?

    • @edattacks
      @edattacks Před rokem +64

      LMAO "pimp strut". They really did tho. Smooth

    • @cygnusprime6728
      @cygnusprime6728 Před rokem +68

      I mean Onaga is pretty much the god of war in MK, he only ever lost due to plot or back stabbing.

    • @princemax4182
      @princemax4182 Před rokem +10

      He actually kills onaga tho

    • @andradeb2695
      @andradeb2695 Před rokem +16

      ​@@princemax4182 with poison not man to man duel

  • @spaceexpireaudio666
    @spaceexpireaudio666 Před rokem +1384

    Onaga`s battle cry made an impression on Shang tsung for sure. He even teleported one step to the right

  • @KrOnIc343
    @KrOnIc343 Před rokem +708

    This was the Shao Kahn everyone feared, even ohnaga. Not physical power but thinking wisely & persuasion

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon Před rokem +23

      Yep.

    • @striped_hyena18
      @striped_hyena18 Před rokem +27

      Yes every villain has a positivity even pure evil ones like Shao Kahn

    • @user-lt4tr8bu4b
      @user-lt4tr8bu4b Před rokem

      🤣🤣🤣🤣 kid you are delusional and you don't have any idea about mk lore
      Actually shao feared onaga and vice

    • @Doshanko
      @Doshanko Před rokem +115

      Onaga was the only one who didn't fear Shao Kahn, but this Shao Kahn wasn't afraid of Onaga. That's the important part

    • @user-lt4tr8bu4b
      @user-lt4tr8bu4b Před rokem +42

      @@Doshanko but still Onaga is stronger than shao

  • @nabillahlabat5570
    @nabillahlabat5570 Před rokem +373

    I remember the first time I encountered that cutscene and I was like
    "please don't tell me I have to fight all four of them" 😂😂

    • @38achref26
      @38achref26 Před rokem +27

      lol same

    • @viletoxxie
      @viletoxxie Před rokem +28

      swear to god bro

    • @davidalonzojr8617
      @davidalonzojr8617 Před rokem +45

      I was actually hoping to get to fight Quan Chi. As Taven promised Orin that he will find Quan Chi and make him pay with his life.

    • @LamarCarthern
      @LamarCarthern Před měsícem

      Same😂

  • @agrubohub4009
    @agrubohub4009 Před rokem +787

    Those Onaga movements are really exaggerated but I loved this moment.
    First time I played it I feared that the game would make you fight all 4 of them in a row

    • @serioussilliness2064
      @serioussilliness2064 Před rokem +27

      It fn should have!

    • @W.T.F599
      @W.T.F599 Před rokem +52

      Taven very well could beat all of them considering everyone he's fought by that point.

    • @lg6884
      @lg6884 Před rokem +50

      @@W.T.F599 maybe not Shao Khan and Onaga in tandem. The other 2, definitely.

    • @W.T.F599
      @W.T.F599 Před rokem +37

      @@lg6884 Liu kang beat Kahn twice and he's not a god. Taven is half god.

    • @HAMZA_OLYMPUS
      @HAMZA_OLYMPUS Před rokem +27

      @@W.T.F599 Yet even Shao Kahn wouldn’t dare fight Onaga, so I think Onaga would just.. impregnate Taven 🤣

  • @Shaythe
    @Shaythe Před rokem +944

    I love how Onaga only had a problem with Shao Kahn calling “Onaga” and not Quan Chi and Shang Tsung.

    • @Saltedroastedcaramel
      @Saltedroastedcaramel Před rokem

      Kahn did kill him to take over his throne

    • @brauwow
      @brauwow Před rokem +2

      Bro killed him and took his job. I’d feel some type of way too.

    • @Facade953
      @Facade953 Před rokem +193

      If this was MK11 the scene would have played like this:
      Shao Kahn: Onaga!
      Onaga: ONAGA KAHN!!!
      Shao Kahn: Not anymore.
      Onaga: ROAR!!!

    • @PotentialGrim
      @PotentialGrim Před rokem +99

      Well, Shang Tsung and Quan Chi raised him back from the death, Shao Kahn killed him.

    • @Rad-Dude63andathird
      @Rad-Dude63andathird Před rokem +110

      ​@@PotentialGrim
      Yeah, Shao Kahn stole the dude's throne via underhanded means, of course he'd be pissy.

  • @Jose-xm3tq
    @Jose-xm3tq Před rokem +70

    1:35
    That gangsta walk takes 100s of years to master.....

  • @navilluscire2567
    @navilluscire2567 Před rokem +495

    Definitely one of the most interesting moments in MK history, you have some of the biggest villains in one place and they aren't trying to murder each other...yet. Quan chi of all characters even points out that *"yeah we're all TOTALLY going to backstab each other in the end...BUT only by working together for a time can any one of us hope to have the chance at gaining ultimate POWER"! (and then kill the rest..)*

    • @cygnusprime6728
      @cygnusprime6728 Před rokem +51

      Because Quan Chi fucked over more characters than anyone else in the series and he knows this is his only slim chance of making it out alive. Shinnok has a bone to pick with him, and so does Tsung after the way the alliance fell apart. He also knows Kahn won't ever trust him again after they pretended to pledge allegiance and then attacked a clone of Kahn.

    • @sonicbattleplayer5762
      @sonicbattleplayer5762 Před rokem +10

      Who is better at backstaping people:
      1. Shang Tsung
      2. Onaga
      3. Shao Kahn
      4. Quan Chi

    • @Kira22558
      @Kira22558 Před rokem +17

      @@sonicbattleplayer5762 quan chi

    • @juanveleda8762
      @juanveleda8762 Před rokem +26

      It all boils down to:
      "We can kill each other later".

  • @LEOS-BIZARRE-YOUTUBE-CHANNEL
    @LEOS-BIZARRE-YOUTUBE-CHANNEL Před 3 měsíci +10

    Shao khan: ill take that chance.
    It seems NRS forgot how badass shao khan is.

  • @xxxCrackerJack501xxx
    @xxxCrackerJack501xxx Před 9 měsíci +14

    I always called them the "Deadliest Alliance" as a kid lol

  • @twiztidjester3151
    @twiztidjester3151 Před rokem +15

    I love how Quan Chi looks at the camera like "These dumb mother fuckers..."

  • @AndrewCARNBORN
    @AndrewCARNBORN Před rokem +58

    "EMPEROR ONAGA" is forever ingrained in my head
    What a dope ass moment

  • @OfficialBullyMaguire
    @OfficialBullyMaguire Před rokem +97

    Shao Kahn: Onaga
    Onaga: EMPEROR Onaga!
    Shao Kahn: Not anymore, Look at little emperor junior, Gonna cry?

    • @crashpal
      @crashpal Před rokem +14

      Shao Kahn: "I'm gonna put some hammer in your eye"

    • @ajlemuel969
      @ajlemuel969 Před rokem +12

      "EMPEROR ONAGA!!!!"
      "I missed the part where that's my problem."

    • @NOKIA-vq2dx
      @NOKIA-vq2dx Před rokem +13

      bully shaoKahnuire

    • @IllWill-hc8ev
      @IllWill-hc8ev Před rokem +7

      I love this thread 😂

  • @BIacklce
    @BIacklce Před rokem +17

    i like that their mutual understanding is just "we are evil"

  • @enenra6417
    @enenra6417 Před rokem +174

    The music of Armageddon is slept on nobody talks about it that much, they usually just talk about deception's ost or deadly alliance

    • @delorianholley6850
      @delorianholley6850 Před rokem +3

      Because the kombat system's generic nature washed the game. you knew what to expect with almost every character so there was no variety

    • @ajlemuel969
      @ajlemuel969 Před rokem +14

      Belltower slaps. Most of the bgm in Armageddon is actually very good

    • @kamele0n946
      @kamele0n946 Před rokem +10

      Meteor Storm and Bell Tower have two of my favorite tracks in the series

    • @coltgun876
      @coltgun876 Před rokem +5

      @@delorianholley6850 That was completely unrelated to the comment and I don't even agree with it either its just your bad skill taking over you

    • @NintendoPsycho
      @NintendoPsycho Před rokem +1

      Who played this? lol

  • @NoName-nb5nm
    @NoName-nb5nm Před rokem +277

    I wish we seen how each of the Forces of Darkness and Forces Of Light came together for Armageddon I wish there was a cutscene of Taven eavesdropping on the Forces Of Darkness and Light gatherings.

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 Před rokem

      @@Frosterino Yeah.
      For example, why Ashram is one the Forces of Light.
      She only thinks she a hero when in reality she is killing innocent people

    • @inr9751
      @inr9751 Před rokem +24

      I wish that huge battle from the intro was a playable free-for-all where you fight whoever you wish and help turn the tide of battle in your side's favor.

    • @FRANKHORRIGAN_ENCLAVESOLDIER
      @FRANKHORRIGAN_ENCLAVESOLDIER Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@inr9751yeah that would be awesome just imagining it is awesome.

  • @jamethlawthon5602
    @jamethlawthon5602 Před rokem +53

    Armegeddon looked so goddamn futuristic in that Game Informer 16 years ago.

  • @brianglover2698
    @brianglover2698 Před rokem +72

    This is probably my Shao Khan moment of all time. Confidently sit on his throne in a room full of guys that want him dead
    and commands the room when speaks backing up Quan Chi to the point Onaga can't argue against him.

  • @mqfii8992
    @mqfii8992 Před rokem +125

    0:12 Out of *ALL* the people who could question Quan Chi's possible scheming, Shang Tsung should be the *LAST* one to call him out.

    • @johntravolta8389
      @johntravolta8389 Před rokem +35

      compared to them shang tsung is an angel and he knows it.

    • @vapor.6292
      @vapor.6292 Před rokem +16

      @@johntravolta8389 Mm, not really sure about that 👀

    • @lg6884
      @lg6884 Před rokem +47

      @@vapor.6292 pre NRS he never actually betrayed anyone outside of Deadly Alliance, where as Quan Chi was established as a treacherous sorcerer who betrays or manipulates everyone in MK4 and was carried over in DA followed by Deception. So at this moment Shang Tsung *is* the most trust worthy.

    • @sobhanamini3776
      @sobhanamini3776 Před rokem +10

      @@lg6884 this is true.shang used to be the best of them in the older timline

    • @smeehee
      @smeehee Před rokem +25

      Come to think of it MK X&11 have seen Shang Tsung and Quan chi switch roles. With Quan being loyal to Shinnok and making no attempts to seize the amulet for himself. While Shang Tsung is betraying everyone he comes across

  • @D34dOr4l1v3
    @D34dOr4l1v3 Před rokem +78

    Damn onaga got that gangsta walk

    • @zhuofan8644
      @zhuofan8644 Před 4 měsíci +4

      And followed by Shao Kahn's badass walk. Shao and Onaga were the fucking real G's of MK universe

  • @SpiritxEnergy
    @SpiritxEnergy Před 9 měsíci +8

    The way Shao Kahn walks. Like he's in the club and wishing somebody would start with him 😂

  • @Vergil666.
    @Vergil666. Před rokem +58

    Gotta love shao kahn sitting on Onaga's throne right in front of him.

    • @Chloe1sylvester1234
      @Chloe1sylvester1234 Před rokem +18

      If Onaga hadnt of lost his powers in Deception to Shujinko. Onaga would of probably killed Shao Kahn everybody else there.

    • @valnovanoth
      @valnovanoth Před rokem +4

      @@Chloe1sylvester1234 Without the probably

    • @ECJ49
      @ECJ49 Před rokem

      How did Shao Kahn regain his throne?

    • @18826
      @18826 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@ECJ49 he killed onaga twice and everyone there

    • @18826
      @18826 Před 11 měsíci +7

      @@valnovanoth shao kahn literally bodied him twice

  • @HRPNX-vl4uu
    @HRPNX-vl4uu Před rokem +397

    This was also one of my favorite Outworld moments. Seeing a 4 way alliance like this. I really miss Onaga as much as I do Shujinko and Havik.

    • @jeremyzak654
      @jeremyzak654 Před 11 měsíci +4

      They did Shujinko dirty in this game. After the events of Deception it's like his character learned nothing and his delusions of Grandeur rose to comedic levels.

    • @JargonMadjin
      @JargonMadjin Před 9 měsíci +1

      Well, they came back now

    • @HRPNX-vl4uu
      @HRPNX-vl4uu Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@JargonMadjin Shujinko and Onaga hasn't returned as playable characters though(just cameo, Shujinko wise). And that Havik is not the same. I miss the more calmer Havik that's not Dairou. Turns out, it's a title after all, like Rain, who's Overlord Zefferro.

    • @JargonMadjin
      @JargonMadjin Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@HRPNX-vl4uu It's better than nothing at least

    • @HRPNX-vl4uu
      @HRPNX-vl4uu Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@JargonMadjin True

  • @mr.checkyourself4672
    @mr.checkyourself4672 Před rokem +243

    I love even the Forces Of Light turned on each other to get the power of Blaze showing the heroes do have a devious side.

    • @serioussilliness2064
      @serioussilliness2064 Před rokem +38

      Yeah the better side isn't always afraid of hurting each other, they rather heal and not torture and don't engage their base desires to see others suffer for their own pleasure.. Generally

    • @getchaxxx6762
      @getchaxxx6762 Před rokem +36

      Of course they turned on each other you really think they all would still be teaming and helping each other when the ultimate power standing there in front of them you darn right I would turn on my allies I want that power like everybody else.

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 Před rokem +32

      As someone said
      "If you want to find out what a man is to the bottom, give him power. Any man can stand adversity - only a great man can stand prosperity"

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 Před rokem +43

      It is funny how Dairou, the mercenary, who joined the Forces of Darkness actually got one of the best endings.
      He made peace to Outworld, Earthrealm and Edenia.
      I would like to see an MK game where Earthrealm are the invaders and you have to play as characters from other realms to stop them

    • @drockman92
      @drockman92 Před rokem +19

      It’s been years since I played this game, but I thought the presence of Blaze influenced every Kombat ant to fend for themselves?

  • @PerfectYakon2219
    @PerfectYakon2219 Před rokem +18

    1:25 the best moment was is when the music builds up then Onaga shouts out "To War!" the trumpets starts playing

  • @D-Ender2
    @D-Ender2 Před 9 měsíci +30

    The way Shao Kahn and Shang Tsung waiting for Onaga answer. Guy's literally still have the authority even he's no longer ruler of Outworld

    • @Multieditz08tf
      @Multieditz08tf Před měsícem +3

      I mean tbf Onaga was the strongest in the room despite being in his weakened NR form and Shao no longer being afraid of Onaga entirely Onaga is still considered the stronger one in the room

  • @primesc5838
    @primesc5838 Před rokem +17

    I like the way onaga looked at shao kahn after he said "to war!" Like he still doesn't trust him lol

  • @UltimateShadow10
    @UltimateShadow10 Před rokem +137

    I always loved this scene not just because of Shao Kahn's intimidating voice but, the massive balls he had talking down to Onaga. He even lounged on his throne like a boss through most of the scene. Taven quoting Raiden's Deadly Alliance to speech to Raiden himself was the icing on the cake so yea, this was the best scene in the game.

  • @roilo2904
    @roilo2904 Před rokem +5

    Me: Can I go to the bathroom?
    Teacher: You can go out during recess.
    Bathroom at recess:

  • @BrianWalters-ei7sd
    @BrianWalters-ei7sd Před 5 měsíci +6

    I've always loved that Onaga's voice echoes every time he talks while everyone else has a normal tone.

  • @vm141789
    @vm141789 Před 9 měsíci +7

    This is the Deadlier Alliance.

  • @angelsilva7207
    @angelsilva7207 Před rokem +83

    Shujinko was dead set on taking on Onaga, Shang Tsung, Quran Chi AND Shao Kahn all on his own. Whether you think he’s stupid or brave, he’s a batshit insane badass. Imagine he used his absorbing powers like he did in Deception if he had gone against them?? Oh, man, he would be OP!

    • @johnnygyro2295
      @johnnygyro2295 Před rokem +19

      Onaga: "Ah shit, here we go again..."

    • @abdielradames
      @abdielradames Před 10 měsíci

      This is shujinko?

    • @johnnygyro2295
      @johnnygyro2295 Před 10 měsíci +10

      @@abdielradames
      No, you play as Taven in this game. But on the way to Shao Khan's throne room, you free Shujinko from the palace dungeons.

    • @JargonMadjin
      @JargonMadjin Před 9 měsíci

      @@johnnygyro2295 I always assumed Shujinko just got lost on the way to the throne room since he never did fight them

  • @semblancesounds2676
    @semblancesounds2676 Před rokem +173

    These 4 together are actually pretty scary 😮‍💨

    • @striped_hyena18
      @striped_hyena18 Před rokem +35

      The emperor monster
      The demon
      The shape shifting sorcerer
      The monster dragon king
      So give up

    • @lollikabosso.w.n7153
      @lollikabosso.w.n7153 Před 11 měsíci

      @@striped_hyena18 Id go with:
      The Dragon Master
      Brutish, yet deceiving Emperor
      A liar in human skin
      and a pillsbury dough boy

    • @genshoryukenpou
      @genshoryukenpou Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@striped_hyena18so, that means emperor monster is shao kahn, the demon is quan chi, the shape shifting guy is shang tsung and dragon king is onaga right ?

    • @striped_hyena18
      @striped_hyena18 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@genshoryukenpou Yes ofc

    • @noxus1238
      @noxus1238 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Would have been cool if Shinnok was there, imagine all of the mk final bosses at the time standing together in that room.

  • @emeraldarts
    @emeraldarts Před 5 měsíci +6

    Wow a few years later where technology has increased we got... .... invasions!!! Lol

  • @dabaruknemuhar1981
    @dabaruknemuhar1981 Před 10 měsíci +30

    The fact that this Shao Khan was wiser, calmer and fiercer, goes to show why he won the prize in the first place. He really did beat Onaga, returned to battle, defeated Taven, took the power and yeah.

    • @JargonMadjin
      @JargonMadjin Před 9 měsíci +1

      Armageddon's canon ending was that Taven absorbed Blaze's power and became a full god, but nothing happened to prevent Armageddon, MKA was going to be the last MK game since Midway was going bankrupt, when WB bought them and expanded the team into Netherrealm, they realized that they needed to keep things going so they retconned the game's ending, no matter how little sense it made to anyone that actually played Armageddon

    • @jaernihiltheus7817
      @jaernihiltheus7817 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@JargonMadjin that's not really accurate. Armageddon was not meant to be the end of the series.
      They had plans going forward from where armageddon left off. Using armageddon as a jumping off point for a status quo shift - similar to how the opening to deadly alliance was a status quo shift as well. It was made to further develop some of the characters moving forward (like nitara, ashrah, and khameleon), while giving some of the old characters their one final hurrah before they permanently kill them off.
      This is why the reboot was unneeded. Armageddon literally ends with saying "Taven won, most people survived, and now all of those survivors are even stronger - and it's up to taven and friends to finally find a solution to armageddon, while some of our old heroes are dead for good and raiden has become fully corrupted."

    • @JargonMadjin
      @JargonMadjin Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@jaernihiltheus7817
      Bruh, Midway literally went bankrupt after MKA..
      Warner bought them out later on, rebranding to Netherrealm, and from there we got MK vs DCU, which had absolutely no ties to Armageddon, they never planned anything out post-Armageddon until WB saved them from bankruptcy, at which point the following year after MK vs DCU they went for the reboot MK9 which was only possible by retconning the original ending of MKA. MK vs DCU released in 2008, this was just after WB bought them out, since they were using DC characters, they were still called Midway at the time, this was before the rebrand to Netherrealm, leading into MK9. Don't give me that rubbish about them planning it out, they clearly didn't, they literally went bankrupt.
      Taven's ending literally stated that Armageddon wasn't stopped, that's the part you missed, he literally says "the quest did nothing to stabilize the realms", meaning it was all a waste of time. Not that it matters because they retconned it slightly to "Kahn somehow won" and because he interfered with the quest, Armageddon sure as hell wasn't stopped anyway, so in both "canon" endings, the world ends, there's no way to go from there. Which is why in the reboot they start pulling time travel BS to keep things rolling

    • @jaernihiltheus7817
      @jaernihiltheus7817 Před 8 měsíci

      @@JargonMadjin MK vs DCU happened before the bankruptcy.
      4thsnake has a good short video on the topic that explains how what you're saying is wrong, but Tl;Dr:
      Mortal Kombat was always intended to continue because Mortal Kombat was literally the only thing Midway produced that didn't lose them millions of dollars. Every single other franchise had been failing since before deadly alliance and they were being sued for copyright infringement over a new IP.
      Mortal Kombat was their golden goose and the only thing that kept Midway alive for almost the entirety of the 2000s. Every 3d era game - that includes Deadly Alliance, Deception, Armageddon, Shaolin Monks, and MK vs DCU sold well, and all of them except vs DCU was well received by both fans and critics alike.
      So no, that whole "mk9 saved the franchise" thing or the "they HAD to reboot the timeline" thing are both myths.
      EDIT: As for armageddon not being stopped - yes, that's the point. Armageddon never happened in MKA, MKA's plot revolved around the Elder Gods trying to prevent it from happening by culling the actors involved, thus putting it off. The point you seem to be missing about that ending is that the idea was that the next game was going to be taven trying to find a way to prevent armageddon officially. MKA was Taven's origin story, not his character arc.

    • @JargonMadjin
      @JargonMadjin Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@jaernihiltheus7817
      "So no, that whole "mk9 saved the franchise" thing or the "they HAD to reboot the timeline" thing are both myths."
      Literally never said any of that, I said Warner Bros saved them from bankruptcy, if a reboot wasn't needed they why did they do it?

  • @antonhanna2423
    @antonhanna2423 Před rokem +149

    Onaga: Why should I trust any of you traitorous bastards?!
    Quan Chi: Do you really want to hear me give the Optimus Prime speech?
    Shang Tsung: I'll get the Linkin Park!
    Shao Khan: I'll just sit here with some popcorn.

    • @johntravolta8389
      @johntravolta8389 Před rokem +11

      looooool

    • @vaggos2003
      @vaggos2003 Před rokem +18

      On tbe subject of Transformers, here is a little comparison between the villains of both franchises.
      Shao Kahn = Megatron
      Shang Shung = Starscream
      Quan Chi = Armada Dirge
      Onaga = IDW1 Zeta Prime
      Shinnok = Fallen
      Tanya = Blackarachnia/Arachnaid
      One Being = Unicron
      Revenant Liu Kang = Nemesis Prime
      Reiko = Beast Megatron
      Sektor = Shockwave/Beast Machines Beast Megatron

    • @cygnusprime6728
      @cygnusprime6728 Před rokem +3

      @@vaggos2003 agree with everything except comparing Beast wars Megatron to the garbage tier Reiko lmao.

    • @vaggos2003
      @vaggos2003 Před rokem +3

      @@cygnusprime6728 The reason I compared them was because they are both individuals who followed the footsteps of the mighty leaders of their factions, Megatron and Shao Kahn, despite having vastly inferior power, while also having both a gigantic sense of admiration for them (they even reached extremes because of that, with Beast Megatron changing his name and taking the name "Megatron" and Reiko sneaking into Shao Kahn's throne room, sitting on his throne and wearing his helmet) and a personal thirst for power accompanied by a deceiving and scheming nature.
      Whether they are good characters or not is irrelevant to the similarities they have and the comparidon I made between them (although, yeah, Beast Megatron is a badass).

    • @cygnusprime6728
      @cygnusprime6728 Před rokem +4

      @@vaggos2003 I mean Megatron actually got shit done and was a hell of a leader with genius strategies. Reiko admired shao Kahn but accomplished absolutely nothing. Literally the only thing they have in common is admiring the previous ruler and adopting some of their mannerisms. Megatron is a well developed character while Reiko has even less depth than freaking Waspinator.

  • @thealphaoozaru7755
    @thealphaoozaru7755 Před rokem +23

    That swag walk at the end is whats the icing on the cake in this scene for me lmaoooo. Walking around like the fucking boss

  • @lucariothegodboi
    @lucariothegodboi Před rokem +76

    Seeing these four, all powerful in their own right, agreeing to work together to slay their enemies, is truly a terrifying sight

  • @NinjaXFiles
    @NinjaXFiles Před rokem +58

    I love the size difference between Shao Kahn and Onaga.. shao kahn looks like an ant next to Onaga. Dude is to mortal kombat what Oni is to street fighter, a mass destruction killing machine. They both look like they could destroy anyone in their respective rosters.

  • @enenra6417
    @enenra6417 Před rokem +71

    I like how this "alliance" didn't even last 20 minutes because in the intro they all betray each other

    • @MrShadow1995.
      @MrShadow1995. Před rokem +11

      The heat of the moment lol

    • @Highbudget
      @Highbudget Před rokem +13

      Well only one being can acquire the power by defeating blaze so it makes sense that they’d turn on each other in the end, they’re all probably aware of that fact too, it’s obvious

  • @joseph0098
    @joseph0098 Před rokem +9

    1:31 that Onaga walk XD

  • @goopthe6665
    @goopthe6665 Před rokem +46

    That’d be sick if the portal just instantly killed them all and Quan chi betrayed them lol

  • @darknightspider7495
    @darknightspider7495 Před rokem +16

    Shao Kahn had a real strut going on at the end.

  • @jarfd.dorkis5766
    @jarfd.dorkis5766 Před rokem +42

    I thought Onaga was cool as hell. I hope he makes a comeback

  • @JoshDyton
    @JoshDyton Před 9 měsíci +4

    It's comedic how the voices just get deeper and deeper 😂

  • @bigrubberfist2945
    @bigrubberfist2945 Před rokem +13

    Shao Khan showing the kind of mindset you need to be one of Outworld's strongest rulers, he's not just some himbo like in MK 11

  • @makaveli7dayz172
    @makaveli7dayz172 Před rokem +28

    My Favorite cut scene of all time in mk history, 4 of the most badazz villains in mk history working together.

  • @musa4574
    @musa4574 Před rokem +5

    Quan Chi has a menacing voice

  • @jarekgunther
    @jarekgunther Před rokem +25

    - General Kotal?!
    - Kotal _Kahn._
    - "Kahn"? Pathetic fool! You pretend to my throne!
    2006 Onaga: First time?

  • @crow495
    @crow495 Před rokem +107

    Man this shao Kahn is so much cooler than the one in the new games.

    • @crashpal
      @crashpal Před rokem +23

      That's why he won Armageddon

    • @lorddraugr3138
      @lorddraugr3138 Před rokem +1

      I dunno. I really liked him in MK9

    • @crashpal
      @crashpal Před rokem +13

      @@lorddraugr3138 yeah almost everyone was better in MK9. MK9 also had the last good story

    • @lorddraugr3138
      @lorddraugr3138 Před rokem +4

      @@crashpal I’m a believer that the comics storyline was its last truly damn good storyline… even though it has been retconned I think.

    • @malakarvonstroheim5372
      @malakarvonstroheim5372 Před rokem +5

      This Shao Kahn has tasted defeat quite a few times, the one in MK11 is fresh from MK2 so he's never been defeated, his arrogance is still there

  • @shin-gokusatsu645
    @shin-gokusatsu645 Před rokem +15

    I liked how Onaga gave Shao Kahn that dirty ass look as he walked off into the portal.
    I hope Onaga is in MK12 this time!

  • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
    @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Před rokem +88

    If only shinnok was in here it would be even greater!

    • @enenra6417
      @enenra6417 Před rokem +44

      Shinnok was smart and sent a clone instead of going there himself

    • @serioussilliness2064
      @serioussilliness2064 Před rokem +10

      That's what I thought! The main 5!

    • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
      @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Před rokem +8

      @@enenra6417 witch is kinda dome because he can't die, and that's what Shak Kahn did in Deadly Alice

    • @enenra6417
      @enenra6417 Před rokem +5

      @@Frosterino actually it was mk deception it was stated in the konquest mode when Elder God's die they become formless until they reform

    • @enenra6417
      @enenra6417 Před rokem +1

      @@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD You're also forgetting one of the outcomes of Armageddon was the fighters being stripped of their powers

  • @azizabdul8914
    @azizabdul8914 Před rokem +5

    I just realizes that Onaga is what Reptile would have become in Deception.

  • @krajax
    @krajax Před rokem +12

    I love how during all this Super Villian League Conference banter that Taven sticks out like a sore thumb in the background, especially in the angle where Shao Kahn's and Onaga's sights would be.
    Hell even when Onaga was about to walk out of the meeting (0:46) he would been able to see Taven and say, "Hey! Who's that!?" and blow Taven's cover completely lol

    • @oMaJoJ
      @oMaJoJ Před rokem

      Maybe their vision is based on movement?

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon Před rokem +4

      What if he saw him but decided to let him do his thing and indirectly use Taven in his favor?

    • @JargonMadjin
      @JargonMadjin Před 9 měsíci

      To be fair, Taven could probably take them since he can freeze time, he's a demigod

    • @alcipta4920
      @alcipta4920 Před 8 měsíci

      @@oMaJoJlol he’s as dumb as a t rex

  • @DarthWall275
    @DarthWall275 Před rokem +6

    "Look, we're all going to try to kill each other in ten minutes, but right now we need to be evil together"

  • @cold797
    @cold797 Před rokem +3

    Shinnok: That bald bastard stole my place!!!

  • @diabolico6668
    @diabolico6668 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Lol the way Quan Chi says Onaga

  • @Caine61
    @Caine61 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Girl: He must be cheating on me
    *Me and the Bois*

  • @Handl33z
    @Handl33z Před rokem +6

    I don't like that MK9 implies that Shao somehow defeated/escaped from Onaga when we cleary see him (Shao) get Jeepers Kreeper'd by Onaga in the opening.

    • @TheNadroj10
      @TheNadroj10 Před rokem +2

      Most bullshit retcon in the whole series. That dumb retcon literally changed the franchise.

    • @Handl33z
      @Handl33z Před rokem

      @@TheNadroj10 Facts 💯

    • @UNKNOWN-rp1vb
      @UNKNOWN-rp1vb Před rokem

      😂😂😂 if you like Onaga this doesnt means he beats everyone😂😂😂 you must be under 12 😂😂😂(im sorry) they did one of the best retcon in gaming history , and i dont see smth wrong with Shao khan winning this Fight

    • @Handl33z
      @Handl33z Před rokem

      @UNKNOWN-rp1vb You must be functionally retarded (not sorry) if you can't infer from Armageddon's intro that if Shao Khan can plow through everyone, yet he still gets manhandled by Onaga,then yes,Onaga is in fact stronger than everyone and more likely to win. Not to mention,Shao had to poison Onaga to take his throne. Who I like is irrelevant.

    • @Krothopis
      @Krothopis Před 11 měsíci +2

      Onaga should've won, Shujinko should've been the cause for the reset and sent the message to Raiden in the intro for MK 9, and the cause for the reset. The was that Cutscene went I couldn't see Khan winning, let alone get back in time or Raiden being the last to oppose him after 1v1ing Shinnok. Shits crazy.

  • @akagurob1ack160
    @akagurob1ack160 Před rokem +4

    Onaga and shao are such giga chads bro

  • @armanclark
    @armanclark Před rokem +6

    It almost sounds like onaga kept this voice from deception

  • @danpatrickth2759
    @danpatrickth2759 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Onaga: no more kicking

  • @clemensjung6678
    @clemensjung6678 Před 10 měsíci +6

    The best thing about this scene is Shao Kahn copying Onaga‘s walk lmao

  • @syckles
    @syckles Před rokem +48

    Quan Chi speaks *deep ass voice (me: 😨 )
    Onaga speaks *deeper ass voice (me: 😰 )
    Kahn speaks *deepest ass voice (me: 😱 )
    Shang speaks *regular ass voice (me: 😅 )

    • @zaythedon2065
      @zaythedon2065 Před měsícem +1

      Onaga has base in his voice there’s a Echo when he speaks lol and Shang tsung sounds mysterious you can tell he’s a bad guy

  • @joelcardona1519
    @joelcardona1519 Před rokem +2

    Shao Khan looking like The Godfather

  • @ahmedalamin3085
    @ahmedalamin3085 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I laughed so hard at the body movements like why are they so dramatic 😂😂

  • @StardogChampion06
    @StardogChampion06 Před rokem +55

    Onaga can easily take on Shang Shung, Quan Chi, and Shao Khan combine. The fact he's in the meeting while Shao Khan sits on the throne with no ounce of fu*ks to give is hilarious.

    • @icyycold1094
      @icyycold1094 Před rokem +10

      Shao Kahn defeated Onaga somehow in Armageddon after he took him away

    • @foamfan7593
      @foamfan7593 Před rokem +10

      ​@@icyycold1094if only they showed how he did it

    • @franktruth9639
      @franktruth9639 Před rokem +9

      @@icyycold1094 We ALL know that was a reach....even you🤣
      Shao Kahn is VERRRRYYY strong, but he's no match for Onaga

    • @icyycold1094
      @icyycold1094 Před rokem +6

      @@franktruth9639 well we all saw Onaga take Shao Kahn far away so he could kill him, but then in MK9 Shao Kahn was the last one standing, so obviously he killed Onaga

    • @franktruth9639
      @franktruth9639 Před rokem +18

      @@icyycold1094 Shao Kahn should have been dead. They pulled that victory out their ass

  • @GarkKahn
    @GarkKahn Před rokem +12

    Also raiden being there when taven shows up and revealing he made a deal with them to protect earthrealm was epic

  • @linc54
    @linc54 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I love how Onaga ignores the fact that Quan Chi and Shang Tsung tried to kill him in the previous game lmaooo

  • @different_stuff
    @different_stuff Před 7 měsíci +2

    I like how Onaga walks with this exaggerated swagger of a black demon

  • @masterfulwarriorplus5398
    @masterfulwarriorplus5398 Před rokem +78

    I'm sure Onaga probably gave Shao Kahn his credit cause Shao Kahn more successful than Onaga especially since he conquered a main realm at one point but Onaga made sure Shao Kahn wasn't winning Armageddon before the retcon.

    • @KarmaTube5
      @KarmaTube5 Před rokem +2

      What’s crazy is how Shao Kahn made it to the top but Onaga who is proclaimed to be stronger than Shao Kahn didn’t even make it to the stairs! I’m guessing it had something to do with shujinko weakening him by destroying those things in the arena (can’t recall what they were)

    • @TheWarchiefZekeJaeger
      @TheWarchiefZekeJaeger Před rokem +15

      @@KarmaTube5 Well, people never takes in consideration the difference between General Shao Kahn to Emperor Shao Kahn. It isn't impossible to imagine Shao Kahn has become just as powerful as Onaga after being on power for so long. Shao Kahn has been increasing his power for thousand of years by merging realms and feeding on countless souls, on top of mastering many types of magic and combat experience.

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon Před rokem +1

      @@TheWarchiefZekeJaeger Meh.

    • @Krothopis
      @Krothopis Před 11 měsíci

      Shao Khan clapped Onaga off screen after being dragged god knows where, made it back to the top, Raiden beat everyone else apparently, Khan claps his cheeks, Mortal Kombat reboots, doesn't elaborate further 😮‍💨 oh the plot holes.

  • @willianafta60
    @willianafta60 Před rokem +3

    1:29 Shang Tsung Teleport's tenchique

  • @010zygh6
    @010zygh6 Před 9 měsíci +5

    "ONAGA.."
    "EMPEROR onaga.."
    "Not anymore"
    "GRRRGHRHH 😠"

  • @beyondtheinfinite3263
    @beyondtheinfinite3263 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Funny how these villains are so desperate, even an alliance full of potential traitors are still better than to be defeated by their actual enemies.

  • @FlyingShadow11
    @FlyingShadow11 Před rokem +5

    Onaga: "I will not join an alliance of traitors"
    Shao Kahn to himself: "damn thats deep"

    • @Kira22558
      @Kira22558 Před rokem

      Also onaga:proceed to join them anyway.

  • @felipeaguena5289
    @felipeaguena5289 Před 10 měsíci +8

    This feels like a Power Rangers villains scene

  • @Sadeye92
    @Sadeye92 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Quan Chi talks like the zesty neighbor whose always trying to invite high school boys over to his place to smoke

  • @oneman9918
    @oneman9918 Před 10 měsíci +3

    My middle school days... Thanks For The Throwback.

  • @rob7warren
    @rob7warren Před 9 měsíci +3

    The true "Big Four"

  • @ZeroTheHunter
    @ZeroTheHunter Před rokem +19

    It is funny that onaga is stronger than everyone TOGETHER in the room and still all have the need to make a new alliance. Story wise MK armageddon is nuts, the intro cinematic of deception shows how even their power combined with the thundergod made not even a scrach to him.

    • @ama3583
      @ama3583 Před rokem +2

      Wasn't he only powerful because he had all the Kamidogu during mk deception?

    • @endercommunity4455
      @endercommunity4455 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Yeah shujinko shattered em all

    • @18826
      @18826 Před 11 měsíci +2

      yet shao kahn clapped him in the armegeddon

    • @jassimhamid2808
      @jassimhamid2808 Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@18826Clapped him? I remember him crying "Noooo!" like bitch when Onaga grabbed him and flew away.

    • @alfredoelizaldedelucas9973
      @alfredoelizaldedelucas9973 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@jassimhamid2808and who won at the end again? Cause i dint see onaga with blazes power

  • @BabyDigi
    @BabyDigi Před rokem +2

    “Onaga”
    “EMPEROR Onaga !!”
    “Not anym-“
    **GROWLS**

  • @matiasgemig
    @matiasgemig Před 10 měsíci +2

    Me and the boys going to conquer every realm.

  • @CrusasTheOrc
    @CrusasTheOrc Před rokem +4

    That exchange between Onaga and Shao Kahn about the Emperor title has lived rent free in my head for over a decade

  • @lucasaugusto7743
    @lucasaugusto7743 Před rokem +3

    One sneeze and Taven would die. Just imagine having to face all four at once.

  • @joaovitor.lourenco
    @joaovitor.lourenco Před rokem +2

    Conversation between chads be like:

  • @piercejames7113
    @piercejames7113 Před rokem +1

    Man Shao Kahn walking into the portal like a pimp lol 🤣

  • @Jijodebuta
    @Jijodebuta Před rokem +7

    THE BESTO MOMENT OF ENTIRE 3D ERA

  • @loganboyd6609
    @loganboyd6609 Před rokem +16

    See this is probably one of my favorite scenes because of the fact that we later find out Shao Kahn one meaning Shao Khan had nothing to lose he knew about the risks and he knew those risks were going to be nothing in the face of what he is capable of and this just goes to show the fact that Midway Shao Khan is Ultimate went better than his netherrum counterpart because of the fact that he knew about the risks but he knew that if the side of light would win it would put an end to the hard work in keeping his Conquest which took all of his planning and thinking and intelligent tactics to make sure his allies would remain loyal to keep but he took the gamble of only having a 25% chance out of all four of them the chances were just as in his favor as it was in theirs