It’s unfair to compare ping pong and the WNBA. Ping pong is incredibly popular globally. Far more people watch professional ping pong than watch the WNBA.
Imagine a singer with a small fan base was signed to the same record label as Taylor Swift and then started complaining about not making as much as her, just because they are signed to the same label and "have the same job".
@Dakidpepe People have been saying this for years. Everyone and their momma knows and understands this. I bet that most WNBA players understand this, even if they don't want it to happen, and I bet a large number of them do want it to happen. I'm not the one to bash someone for their gender, but in this specific case it gotta be said, ☕️
It was a few years ago I discovered the NBA was subsidizing the WNBA. At that exact moment I stopped taking them seriously. How can you ask for more money when you make no money?
That would be a profit split not a revenue split. Revenue doesn’t factor in overhead cost. The dude in the video really screws that up. But yeah you can’t give employees massive contracts comparable to there male counterparts when the men’s league generates billions in cashflow and the women’s is cash flow negative
That would be a profit split not a revenue split. Revenue doesn’t factor in overhead cost. The dude in the video really screws that up. But yeah you can’t give employees massive contracts comparable to there male counterparts when the men’s league generates billions in cashflow and the women’s is cash flow negative
Wnba players need to realize that women are never gonna support their boring league, so they might as well appeal to men by lowering the rims to 8 ft or 8.50 ft and start dunking 🤷
Woman here, disagree with your statement but not the conclusion. The rims shouldn't be lowered because they are girls, they should be lowered because the average center in the WNBA is 6'5"-6'7". Their point guards are 5'3"-5'8". Do the math.
@mickidoesmedia so it should be lowered because of their genetics and lack of comparable athleticism to the men..in other words....because they're women lol
@@mickidoesmedia lol no, them being females are why it should be lowered because they are less athletic in comparison to males so why have rim at same height especially when every other sport makes changes to accommodate the difference like softball vs baseball for example??
since the NBA is allowing a Steph vs Sabrina 3pt contest, the NBA should do DeMarcus Cousins vs Britney Griner 1v1 as well. Better yet, they should do a 5on5 exhibition match. The top 5 current best WNBA players voted by the WNBA players themselves, vs 5 NBA players that WNBA players have talked trash to in the past. Luka, Brunson, Iguodala, MPJ, and Cousins vs the best 5 woman squad that the WNBA can pull together. And even as more of an incentive, win or lose, ALL the ticket sales and earnings go to the WNBA. So the culture can finally settle this shit once and for all.
I read somewhere that the average wnba salary is $120,000+. They can’t be playing for the love of the game because I played from junior high through college and I would’ve killed to be on a roster for that much money because of my love for the game. Just live within your means. Getting paid that much to play a game, especially if it’s one you love is a privilege.
@@darius444 I was going to say, I feel even dumber. But here you go. It was bassed off the movie. ESPN8: The Ocho is an annual special program block that airs on the networks of ESPN Inc. It features lesser-known, unconventional, and humorous sports and other competitions with some athletic or physical skill component, including crossnet, quadball, trampoline dodgeball, air hockey, darts, disc golf, kabaddi, chess boxing, bed races, sport stacking, electrician games, dodge juggle, death diving, cherry pit spitting, stupid robot fighting, firefighter games, cow chip throwing, pizza dough throwing, frog jumping, cheese rolling, grocery bag competitions, extreme pogo, shuffleboard, breakdancing, roller derby, and more.
@@darius444 It's actually real. It originated from the movie. I tried to paste the information, but it got deleted. It basically plays the lesser-known, unconventional, and humorous sports.
@@ItIsYouAreNotYour Hell, usually the Ocho is more entertaining, The other day they were showing dog sprinting, and watching bulldogs chase plastic bags for 100 yards was way more enjoyable than anything I've ever seen from the WNBA.
Where were these feminists in the 90s when Jenna Jameson was getting paid roughly a million dollars per year, while her male counterparts were getting 50k???
Something that always makes me laugh is how WNBA get mad went people told them "Lower the rims", but never mention how they play on a SMALLER COURT, SMALLER BASKETBALL, SMALLER SCHEDULE, SMALLER PLAYOFF FORMAT. Oh, but the Rim is taking it too far. lmao!
Amen. And look how other leagues make adjustments and rule changes over time to improve the sport. The NHL changed the net size, eliminated no two line passes, made overtime 3 v 3, added a shootout. All these things to make the game more exciting for viewers. What has the WNBA done to improve its product?
raise the men's hoop to 11 feet and move the 3 point line out so we get player movement back in the game instead of watching a 3 point shootimg contest.
fyi, I played over 2,000 games with the original rookie of the year from the first women's professiional league. Her name is sandra Smallwood and she went to Belmont. I also played with all the Atlnata Falcon's. She shot 80% from 18 feet and used a "MEN"S basketball. She also held her own against professional athletes. The women can play.
@@Gnofgdon’t really understand what you’re yapping about lol the point of the comment is that people wanna see women dunking on each other and that an easy solution to that would be lowering the rim and for some reason even suggesting it is some sort of heinous act yet they have all these things that are different for their game 🥸 nobody asked if they could play lmaooo obviously they can hoop they’re professional athletes but is it as entertaining to the masses? the negative profits say otherwise
Bro That’s exactly the problem with lowering he rims. At 9 1/2 feet they still won’t be able to dunk. Most can’t dunk on a 9ft rim. And then it would really expose them.
The fact that we’re still talking about revenue shares when they make negative money is absolutely ridiculous. Since when do sense and facts get pushed to the side so long
In todays bizzaro world where "equality" and "inclusion" is the priority because no other business could remain going for 25+ years not turning a profit and the employees demanded higher pay. Shit makes zero sense
As someone who been watching the WNBA as a little kid, I completely agree. I believe that these WNBA players should get paid more but since the WNBA is not as popular like the NBA, it's just like gonna happen like I understand women sports and women players are talent and all that but it's just not the same ass men sports. I love the WNBA and I will always support the WNBA just like what I do with the NBA, NHL, MLB, NFL and other women sports but they have to realize that the WNBA is not the same. You really don't see any WNBA games packed out until the playoffs come in my opinion and for someone who watches and loves the WNBA, it's just the painful truth
@@Kings0424the nba gives the wnba $10 million per year to help pay wnba players. They want to be paid more yet the nba is helping pay their salaries. Nba makes billions in profit whereas wnba is negative every season
My daughter wanted me to take her to a WMBA game (we go to five or six NBA games a year), we happened to be in a city that has a WMBA team, and I told her that I would try to get tickets. I was told by friends in the town to get the cheapest tickets, and then move seats. It was a joke, I have been to high-school boys games with more people. When we left, my daughter told me that she was glad she went, but it was MBA games from now on. She said that the women were terrible, and that SHE thought that our JV team could beat either team.
I was on vacation outside the US with my young sons. One night were in our hotel room and a little home sick we found ESPN on our tv. They were showing an WNBA game. So I figured what the hell let's watch it. Without any commentary or opinion from me my young sons started jumping up and down howling in laughter at how bad these ladies played basketball. Air balls, shots hitting the underside of the rim. Bricks off the side of the board. Missed layups. Their laughter got louder and louder. My point is yes it took me being 3,000 miles from home to finally watch a WNBA game and that people naturally know what embarrassingly bad basketball looks like no matter their age.
If you want to be shocked, look up the WNBA player stat leaders. I agree with you, and couldn't understand how many of them were listed as 40-50%+ shooters - all of em
In all fairness, I also learned they have about 4 minutes of good basketball with movement, passing and a good shot or two. But then you'll have to endure the next 11 minutes of pure ridiculousness. @@GeorgeousGeorgeousGeorge
The WNBA is so weird. The majority of the United States has no respect for the “league”nor their championships. Candace Parker didn’t play a single game of their Finals series, yet collected another championship ring that has as much value as a ring pop from a bubble gum machine. An NBA great like Charles Barkley still has to congratulate her and she received it with not much enthusiasm because she understands the difference between an NBA World Championship ring and the WNBA Bubble Championships…well they do travel, but there are barely any fans (in the arena or at home watching). 🤷♂️
Even if they lowered the hoops to 8' in the WNBA, its not going to make them look any less goofy and unathletic. It would just replace a bunch of lowlights of wide open missed layups to a bunch of lowlights of wide open missed dunks.
@@Unnamed942 In large part because they're playing on a hoop that's too tall for them. The WNBA is the equivalent of taking every 6' 10" + male and making a basketball league out of it. They're selecting for people too tall because the hoops are too tall.
@@ChristopherHalbersma Compare even the tallest, most awkward male professional basketball player to the most athletic WNBA player, and the difference is night and day. Males are just far more explosive and athletic than females. In certain sports it's less noticeable, and that's why, for example, female tennis is much more popular than the WNBA. When the difference between athletic ability is so stark and noticeable, why would anybody watch the WNBA when it's such an inferior product? Plus the guys are WAYYY more skilled, contrary to what many proponents of the WNBA claim. How often do you see guys in the NBA just dribble the ball off their feet to end games, blow wide open layups, and airball wide open shots? I'm not saying it never happens, but it definitely isn't a regular occurrence for NBA players. Watch any WNBA game for five minutes, however, and you're bound to catch a lowlight.
I’m tired of wnba players always saying they’re just as good as nba players yet they can’t handle 10’ rims can’t handle 3 pt line at the distance the nba has theirs and can’t score the points or bring in the crowd nba players bring it
The sense of entitlement of these WNBA players. They think that just because they worked hard and are skilled, it automatically means they are entitled to NBA-level money. EVERY professional athlete work hard and sacrifice and only a small percentage of them get paid generational wealth. Womens lacrosse is way more entertaining to watch than the WNBA and has a significantly larger fanbase but they're not out here whining for a higher pay because they're not delusional. They understand that SKILL does not equate money, revenue does... But the sense of entitlement of these WNBA players is something else... just an ugly mix of ignorance and arrogance.
Even that argument in their favor is weak. WNBA players are not as SKILLED as NBA players. It’s that simple. There is no reason they should be getting paid the same. Period.
Skilled?! That's a stretch. The LFL is way more entertaining to watch. Mostly because those gals play like savages. The wnba is softer than toilet paper.
@@J23LA24That is most of women’s sports in general. The skill level is way below that of their male peers. Someone in here is gonna say Tennis, but even then, they only need to win 2 out of 3 sets instead of 3 out of 5.
Lowering the rim, having girls doing windmill dunks or whatever, still won't get me to watch. Seen every dunk known to man/woman, and I'm not impressed. Don't even care for the current NBA or it's whiny, entitled players...
The Chinese table tennis player Ma Long has an estimated net worth of $20 million in 2024. His major income comes from prize money and endorsements. Ma Long is 35
The level is ridiculous and an embarrassment for women athletes. There is zero reason for them being this clumsy, lack basics and play a slow clumsy game. No reason they can't be solid skill and strategy wise and play a fast strategic style like in college and Europe. That sport where women shoot on the hoop without a backboard, they are like Steph with that shot. And women's field hockey, top level. Even MMA fighting. I can't understand how the WNBA is this bad.
Candace Parker learned from LeBron James to never retire, just to collect empty longevity awards and meaningless super-post-prime championships. Michael Jordan won his 5th ring at AGE 34 and Kobe Bryant won his 5th ring at AGE 31. LeBron James is AGE 39 with STILL only ≈ 4 NBA Championships. I had to use the “≈” symbol to signify only 3 NBA Championships and ONE 2020 BLM Mickey Tricky Hell in a Cell Orlando Disney Bubble Championship. 🤷♂️ 👀
@@Fernando_616You have no proof that people would say that if MIA or Denver won your ass is just assuming. The bubble ring was a joke. Alot of players either wasn’t prepared to play, didn’t want to play or flat out did not play. And it was in a empty gym. It’s was a joke 🤣🤣🤣🤣. What finals is in a city that didn’t make the finals? That’s how you know
They owe the NBA $250-$300 million dollars, imagine that much money being donated to a business that you own and operate and not being grateful to the donor, such is the WNBA.
The level of entitlement is unreal. If I was bringing in nothing but losses (year after year after year)...I wouldn't dream of demanding a raise. I am so sick of these unlikable women. I hope they shut down the WNBA.
It’s funny how the nba tries new things like tournaments, formats, rule changes, d league- g league .. the lists goes on never a dull moment fan engagement is important so much so the women are coming over to comment the mens games etc .. U tell those bimbo 1 good idea and you become their worst enemy. They look at ppl with such disgust 😂😂😂 it’s comical I’ll watch them explain why they need equal pay before watching a game. And my little sister was in the W 😂😂😂
Yes back in the 70’s bowling and golf payouts in tournaments were very close. Nowadays with the popularity of golf growing and PBA Bowling going down the payouts are way different. Just how it is.
They can’t dunk or make a wide open layup and want the respect nba players get, once they get a compliment from a nba player they rub it the wrong way, that’s why no one watches them
Lower the rim, " Juwanna Mann ' like the movie , They had a female football lingerie league before try that . Remember Janet Jackson at the Superbowl , have one of them randomly whip out a tiddie during the game , 7th caller wins a prize { if anyone notices } better than any ideas we heard from them so far Do you have other ideas ? lets help them get on track
no woman complains about volleyball nets being lower than the mens, and the fact that women often earn more than men do in that sport. Its just redicilous
I really appreciate the balanced and fair mindset of the current Nuggets players, it's refreshing to hear players who are realistic, unbiased and don't have unhealthy agendas.
"Although the Chinese Table Tennis Association had capped the Super League salary to US$167K, the top tier players could make ~US$600K in the 3-month season. Players like Ma Lin and Wang Liquin could make more. May 14, 2014"
MPJ made such a great point ... 100% the best female pingpong - player is more widely known then the best female basketball player ... and I am pretty sure the most paid WNBA player is not making (much) less money then the best female pingpong player!
These are what basketball fans, NBA superstars and legends have been saying for how many years now and still women’s professional basketball players get mad and angry at Their takes on their lead if you really want to get upset at somebody or someone is the upper management in the WNBA because it gets boring after the third or fourth quarters of watching the WNBA. that’s why a whole lot of WNBA women professional basketball players are so delusional and stuck up in their own ways.
Great points and great video. Equal rights and equality are not the same, yet they use them interchangeably. Equal rights mean that men and women should both be allowed to play basketball and fans can watch. Equality means they would all try out for the same league. And guess what? No woman would ever make it onto a team where men and women are equal.
the question is not the players' attitudes, but who is in charge of the WNBA and what are their motivations? if you have Shaq, and every other male basketball fan in the world saying "I would watch the WNBA if women could dunk on each each other" that means that there are millions of potential viewers that could be converted into active fans -- immediately and at NO COST. If the top decision makers know this, and don't want to make the modification, that means that the WNBA is essentially a charity organization and not a real professional sports league. The issue of the players' attitudes would improve overnight if they were suddenly playing in full stadiums and bringing in real money.
4:02 just shows how advanced the sport is. That girl needed to stat pad a little to improve her rebounds average so she got 4 in the same possession. Next level stuff
@@quickie171. It's super simple to lower the rims and most of the high class backboard will go down automatically... did you really think they gonna have to find a whole new special building to get the rims lowered 😂 it doesn't look like they practice anyway and 2. It's gonna be boring either way so it don't matter
@@jordancobb7553 its super easy to lower all the rims? lmao most is not all , and even then what do they do outside of school? if you think i meant find a building , you have lost their mind. yes they practice, what a stupid thing to say,
I used to think lowering the rim might help and maybe it will slightly but it won't solve the problem. Lowering the rim and shortening the court won't change athleticism, speed, aggression or having men (the overwhelming majority of fans) seeing themselves in women players. However, if a woman can beat a NBA player, especially a star, there's nothing preventing her from joining the NBA and getting that big paycheck.
Women are very sensitive for one thing. If you say anything ...They will take it out of context.He is speaking the truth. He actually said a couple of positive things to say about how talented women are. But Most women took it the wrong way. It's a True Statement💯💯💯💯
The players of the NBA and ABA used to have to work during the off season to make ends meet. They had to go through shit until the NBA got popular. So you think some of the greats got paid what one of the best basketball players SHOULD have gotten paid? Hell no! Because the sport wasn’t popular enough.
They're not skilled or trained well enough. It IS trash. Bring in a military crew to train the worst team in the wnba and I bet it will be a lot better.
@@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 and the military had to adjust the physical training standards in order for them to make into the military… so they could bring in the green berets and they’d still be trash
Lowering the rim is a legitimate suggestion. Look how other leagues make adjustments and rule changes over time to improve the sport. The NHL changed the net size, eliminated no two line passes, made overtime 3 v 3, added a shootout. All these things to make the game more exciting for viewers. What has the WNBA done to improve its product?
Lowering by 1ft will be a BIG difference to their efficiency and product. We understand trying/fighting for equality but NOT EVERYTHING could be equal. And that's nature.
I don't think WNBA players should be paid more if the fan base and ticket sale are not there. One reason why the WNBA seen to not understand is because people are using sports to rationalize why they should not get paid more or why they should lower the rim. Using R&B music is the best way to help WNBA understand, such as, asking them which artist should be paid more Bobby Brown or Witney Houston. If they say WH than should WH pay BB for the short fall in ticket sales. Women, esp black women, have been taught victim hood for centuries and that's the mechanism that they use to thrive, survive, protect their position and gain a better position in this world.
When the WNBA has been around as long as the NBA, then they can squawk about the pay. I'm damn sick and tired of women demanding equal pay when they've done a job 5 years (as an example) compared to a man who has been in his career 25.
They should end the WNBA no one cares about watching, supporting and even women don't support them. I forgot what WNBA team was in the finals a few years ago. My manager was given WNBA shirts to give away to our store, and no one wanted any of them. A basket full of WNBA shirts were left in the middle of the store for anyone to take since the employees didn't want any of them. My manger made a joke saying we could burn them, use them to clean animal poop, and do whatever expect wear them. He took a few to use them as floor mats for his house.
As someone who been watching the WNBA as a little kid, I completely agree. I believe that these WNBA players should get paid more but since the WNBA is not as popular like the NBA, it's just like gonna happen like I understand women sports and women players are talent and all that but it's just not the same ass men sports. I love the WNBA and I will always support the WNBA just like what I do with the NBA, NHL, MLB, NFL and other women sports but they have to realize that the WNBA is not the same. You really don't see any WNBA games packed out until the playoffs come in my opinion and for someone who watches and loves the WNBA, it's just the painful truth
Another thing that would help, the WNBA needs to know their target audience. The WNBA players are not getting the women customers, BUT IF THE WNBA players change their uniforms they can get more men customers.
That’s what happens when you play a globally popular sport. Women’s basketball can’t hold a candle to ping pongs global popularity. Seems weird to say but it’s true.
There’s an amazing irony that we will have a three point line that is closer to the basket. We will make the ball actually smaller and they need to keep that but if we talk about lowering the rim they get upset even though they already have a bunch of things that help them with the sport.
Put a contract in front of these women. They will get paid 50% of what THEIR league generates. Yes, they deserve FIFFY PERCENT of what THEIR job produces. So put all of them together pay them a total of NEGATIVE 5 million dollars. Using these entitled women’s logic, they should all be in debt.
I can't believe the WNBA still exists. I wish my business paid me without me generating any money. Also, it was absolutely shameful how they left a Marine POW who was captured for over 3 years and prisoner swapped for Brittany Griner instead.
Mens basketball took a huge leap financially when Dr J took the court, when they merged the 2 leagues, when they brought BACK dunking, then when Magic and Bird went against the each other. Those items grew the sports rev. Then WNBA is still truly new! I’ve played and dated women that have played college and WNBA ball. Skill, hustle, relentless is right there. You have to give it time to grow. I believe great college battles will bring on great WNBA upticks in views. More women will start to dunk and develop that part of their game but that has to almost be taught/developed in JH and HS I believe. Plenty of Spud Webbs out there so size, non factor.
Honestly, coming down to it, I think it’s very simple. People watch some sport for technicality spectacle, others for the physical spectacle. People watch the big 4 sports, football, basketball, baseball, and hockey for the _physical spectacle._ Seeing a player diving over a defender for a first down, a player dunk, a player slam a home run, and/or a slap shot from 30 feet right past the goalie, we love to see those physical feats of speed, strength, determination, fight. But there are also sports where we enjoy seeing _technical spectacle_ and a good example of that is golf. Do people *LOVE* to see someone hit a massive drive 100s yards of yards? Yes, but that doesn’t win golf matches typically, people enjoy seeing when all the chips are on the line, and from like 90 feet out, someone measured the way the grass was affecting the ball that day, the slight dips and raises in the course, the wind, and accurately calculate that *SO MUCH* that they sink a putt from like 90 feet out with such precision. People love seeing that stuff so much, every gets quiet, watches holding their breath, and they see a prime Tiger Woods just drills putt so perfectly with such *_PERFECT_* precision and calculation, it’s insane to watch. Basketball is unfortunately not a sport that people watch for the technical greatness. Is there _a lot_ of technical precision required in basketball? Yes, but people don’t watch it for Tim Duncan’s 15 foot bank shot and his consistent 24 points a game, they watched for Big Diesel drop step dunking some other center and a power forward who didn’t stand a chance and got absolutely posterize dunked by a prime Shaq or watching Kobe going against 3 other defenders on the last shot and raising up and sinking the shot while staring them down. Nobody was moved really with Kareem’s skyhook, but when Jordan took off and had his tongue sticking out while dunking on someone’s head, people tuned in for that. Hell, there’s so many great 3 point shooters throughout history, and they weren’t seen as spectacular players who warranted big money and being kids favorite player until Steph Curry. His quick release, his shimmy, his “nap time” celebration, taking shots, staring down other teams bench or looking away because he knew the shot was going in, taking shots form 40 feet out in stride and routinely sinking them. Hell, no shooter revolutionized the game like he did until he became popular. No woman is sinking shots as deep as his and/or having his level of charisma so stop being in your egos and lower the damn rim. Hell, most of the time you see WNBA players talk, they’re so damn miserable sounding anyway too, it’s like they’re not having fun playing a children’s and getting paid for it. It’s always, “well, what can men do next for us, we deserve, actually we’re *_entitled_* to more for our boring ass layups, slow game, air balls, and inferior product.” I honestly believe that these women only don’t wanna lower the rim and get more dunks honestly because they simply don’t wanna have to face the reality that their game offers less while they keep *DEMANDING MORE.* If they lower the rims and start dunking more only to find it doesn’t move the needle for their game, then what’s next to complain about? It’s easier to constantly attack and blame, typically male fans, for not being better and doing more than just coming to the realization that their game is boring as watching paint dry.
WNBA also has a talent problem. They do not have any players that are destroying the competition like Jordan did back in the day. The only WNBA athlete I can name is the one that was arrested in Russia recently (Griner). Having recognizable players is important for brand recognition. Even non-sports fans can name players from NBA, NFL, UFC, etc.
Lower rims to 9 feet. The problem with the wnba is the product looks completely different then the nba. People will watch females fight because a punch still looks like a punch a head kick still looks like a head kick. A layup line will never look like a slam dunk. Lower the rim to 9 feet!
Can we adress the fact that a WNBA game looks like a highschool gym class? This is NOT basketball and its not because they're women. The low level regarding technique, skills and strategy is ridiculous. And how clumsy they are makes it look even worse. They should do better. No reason for women to not have a fast paced motion based game like how a good college or euro team plays
The thing is that to have that pay is impossible for the WNBA right now. If nobody watches, you can't be paid the same. I think they gotta focus on the more practical aspects of playing first.
In almost others sports, adjustments were made according to the sport men and women play professionally and in the olympics. Why is it so hard for these women to accept the same is needed in basketball?
The problem with lowering the rim is that you can drop it to 9' and 95% of the players still would not be able to dunk. The WNBA knows this and it is why they go so ballistic when it is mentioned. Women cannot jump. Like at all.
In elementary, junior high and highschool. We had tons of mixed pickup games. We played at the old elementary school yard. The rims were 9ft. It was so much fun. Especially when the girls dunked. None of us were good enough to play on the school teams. But after the second weekend of our games, lots of family started to show up and watch our mini tournaments. Loudest cheers came from the ladies dunking on other ladies. Really opens up the game when ladies can have more options than just layups or just taking shots away from the rim.
The simplest question to the WNBA is....where is the money going to come from? I'm sure they would argue that they want the revenue from the NBA but then that's not fair on the men's game. Men's college basketball is leagues better than the WNBA
Hating on the WNBA has become really low hanging fruit at this point. That being said, I don't understand why they get so offended at the suggestion of lowering the rims. They already have a smaller ball(despite having same size rim, giving an advantage in shooting) and the 3pt line is 3 and a half feet closer. Lowering the rim only seems logical, and would make up for the differences in height and athleticism that males have. It's not just about dunking either, one of the most frustrating things is seeing missed layups, it's like seeing missed chip field goals in football. The real problem is just that someone else is getting more money, and people always want what someone else has. Most people would consider it a dream to make six figures doing something they love.
It’s unfair to compare ping pong and the WNBA. Ping pong is incredibly popular globally. Far more people watch professional ping pong than watch the WNBA.
That’s the point
And ping pong players are more skilled than those divas.
Fact. Bruce Lee almost quit martial arts to play ping pong.
To be clear...he's not comparing the WNBA to PING PONG!
@@contactpq I know. I’m just breakin balls.
Imagine a singer with a small fan base was signed to the same record label as Taylor Swift and then started complaining about not making as much as her, just because they are signed to the same label and "have the same job".
EXACTLY
Damn good analogy 🎯
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@@user-nb7po6jo9lWhether or not you like her, she’s insanely popular and basically prints money and that’s the point
Bingo
Imagine paying your employees $100k a year when the company loses $1 million each year. And the employees still want a raise...
It sounds dumb, but that is a exactly whats happening... They are delusional
They need to lower the rim & start dunking. The shit is boring Cause it's all layups & maybe a few 3's.
Bruhhhhhh, 9 foot rim and some of these girls will be slamming the ball, like driveway basketball all over again!@@Dakidpepe
@@Dakidpepeexactly they all got 1 of 2 archetypes with different body settings😭
@Dakidpepe People have been saying this for years. Everyone and their momma knows and understands this. I bet that most WNBA players understand this, even if they don't want it to happen, and I bet a large number of them do want it to happen. I'm not the one to bash someone for their gender, but in this specific case it gotta be said, ☕️
It was a few years ago I discovered the NBA was subsidizing the WNBA. At that exact moment I stopped taking them seriously. How can you ask for more money when you make no money?
make no money???? its way worse than that they lose over $10 million a year
The math was something like each player owes 82k each year per player if they do revenue split.😂
Time to scrap the WNBA and lets give midget basketball a try!
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That would be a profit split not a revenue split. Revenue doesn’t factor in overhead cost. The dude in the video really screws that up. But yeah you can’t give employees massive contracts comparable to there male counterparts when the men’s league generates billions in cashflow and the women’s is cash flow negative
That would be a profit split not a revenue split. Revenue doesn’t factor in overhead cost. The dude in the video really screws that up. But yeah you can’t give employees massive contracts comparable to there male counterparts when the men’s league generates billions in cashflow and the women’s is cash flow negative
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Wnba players need to realize that women are never gonna support their boring league, so they might as well appeal to men by lowering the rims to 8 ft or 8.50 ft and start dunking 🤷
Woman here, disagree with your statement but not the conclusion. The rims shouldn't be lowered because they are girls, they should be lowered because the average center in the WNBA is 6'5"-6'7". Their point guards are 5'3"-5'8". Do the math.
@mickidoesmedia so it should be lowered because of their genetics and lack of comparable athleticism to the men..in other words....because they're women lol
@@mickidoesmedia lol no, them being females are why it should be lowered because they are less athletic in comparison to males so why have rim at same height especially when every other sport makes changes to accommodate the difference like softball vs baseball for example??
considering there are 6ft5' guys in the NBA and shorter that can dunk with ease pretty much negates your comment@@mickidoesmedia
I'm not watching the WNBA even if they lower the rims. 🥴🤣 You put Michael Porter Jr against the WNBA he'd have Kareem stats and 10 championships. 🥴🤣🤣🤣
since the NBA is allowing a Steph vs Sabrina 3pt contest, the NBA should do DeMarcus Cousins vs Britney Griner 1v1 as well. Better yet, they should do a 5on5 exhibition match. The top 5 current best WNBA players voted by the WNBA players themselves, vs 5 NBA players that WNBA players have talked trash to in the past.
Luka, Brunson, Iguodala, MPJ, and Cousins vs the best 5 woman squad that the WNBA can pull together. And even as more of an incentive, win or lose, ALL the ticket sales and earnings go to the WNBA. So the culture can finally settle this shit once and for all.
Better yet, make it the 5 “worst” players in the NBA vs the absolute best 5 WNBA players. Or even G League subs vs the best WNBA players. No contest
Never do that be like 212-2 too the men
The WNBA is making the same argument as a crappy garage band that can't get anyone to come see them play.
I read somewhere that the average wnba salary is $120,000+. They can’t be playing for the love of the game because I played from junior high through college and I would’ve killed to be on a roster for that much money because of my love for the game. Just live within your means. Getting paid that much to play a game, especially if it’s one you love is a privilege.
It's really that high? They're actually over paid
@@Danny-sd5vmThe WNBA players are definitely overpaid since the league doesn't make a profit in the first place.
@@CJ-ct2mudoesn’t the women’s league actually lose money? Hell the women actually owe money if the math is done
I would play pro basketball even if I made minimum wage 120k as an average is insane for the revenue they make.
And it’s 120k for 4months of work. Not even 120k for a full year of 40hrs a week
Why the hell does ESPN have 8 channels when they're having trouble getting people to watch their main channel?
Thought it was a joke. Do I feel dumb.
@@ItIsYouAreNotYourI think it is, its just scene from movie Dodgeball
@@darius444 I was going to say, I feel even dumber. But here you go. It was bassed off the movie.
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@@darius444 It's actually real. It originated from the movie. I tried to paste the information, but it got deleted. It basically plays the lesser-known, unconventional, and humorous sports.
@@ItIsYouAreNotYour Hell, usually the Ocho is more entertaining, The other day they were showing dog sprinting, and watching bulldogs chase plastic bags for 100 yards was way more enjoyable than anything I've ever seen from the WNBA.
It’s crazy to me that the most popular aspect of wnba is just teenage boys getting excited to mock it on social media.
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@@chrissmith635 w. u just soft little guy
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@@chrissmith635L for the WNBA after this BS deal that Adam Silver made to force this shit on us
Where were these feminists in the 90s when Jenna Jameson was getting paid roughly a million dollars per year, while her male counterparts were getting 50k???
Idk how you spun feminism, porn, the 90's, and the WNBA into 1 comment. Congratulations 🎉
Something that always makes me laugh is how WNBA get mad went people told them "Lower the rims", but never mention how they play on a SMALLER COURT, SMALLER BASKETBALL, SMALLER SCHEDULE, SMALLER PLAYOFF FORMAT. Oh, but the Rim is taking it too far. lmao!
Amen. And look how other leagues make adjustments and rule changes over time to improve the sport. The NHL changed the net size, eliminated no two line passes, made overtime 3 v 3, added a shootout. All these things to make the game more exciting for viewers. What has the WNBA done to improve its product?
Shorter games
raise the men's hoop to 11 feet and move the 3 point line out so we get player movement back in the game instead of watching a 3 point shootimg contest.
fyi, I played over 2,000 games with the original rookie of the year from the first women's professiional league. Her name is sandra Smallwood and she went to Belmont. I also played with all the Atlnata Falcon's. She shot 80% from 18 feet and used a "MEN"S basketball. She also held her own against professional athletes. The women can play.
@@Gnofgdon’t really understand what you’re yapping about lol the point of the comment is that people wanna see women dunking on each other and that an easy solution to that would be lowering the rim and for some reason even suggesting it is some sort of heinous act yet they have all these things that are different for their game 🥸 nobody asked if they could play lmaooo obviously they can hoop they’re professional athletes but is it as entertaining to the masses? the negative profits say otherwise
When he said the ping pong players should be the ones insulted.. I started rollin 🤣🤣 He aint lyin tho lol
This guy with his accent and delivery is a comedian.
I wonder if he's aware of how funny he can be
Male Pro Ping Pong> WNBA 10 out of 10 times.
Bro That’s exactly the problem with lowering he rims. At 9 1/2 feet they still won’t be able to dunk. Most can’t dunk on a 9ft rim. And then it would really expose them.
"IQ above room temperature" that got me for sure 😂😂😂
Ryan Clark looked like he had to remember his line he was taught when talking female players and fundamentals 😆
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The fact that we’re still talking about revenue shares when they make negative money is absolutely ridiculous.
Since when do sense and facts get pushed to the side so long
In todays bizzaro world where "equality" and "inclusion" is the priority because no other business could remain going for 25+ years not turning a profit and the employees demanded higher pay. Shit makes zero sense
How do you write women so well?
...I think of a man. Then I take away reason and accountability.
- As Good as it Gets.
As someone who been watching the WNBA as a little kid, I completely agree. I believe that these WNBA players should get paid more but since the WNBA is not as popular like the NBA, it's just like gonna happen like I understand women sports and women players are talent and all that but it's just not the same ass men sports. I love the WNBA and I will always support the WNBA just like what I do with the NBA, NHL, MLB, NFL and other women sports but they have to realize that the WNBA is not the same. You really don't see any WNBA games packed out until the playoffs come in my opinion and for someone who watches and loves the WNBA, it's just the painful truth
@@Kings0424the nba gives the wnba $10 million per year to help pay wnba players. They want to be paid more yet the nba is helping pay their salaries. Nba makes billions in profit whereas wnba is negative every season
When emotions are the opponent
These “highlights” absolutely make my blood boil 😂😂 I have to keep pausing the video because I keep yelling “What are you doing!?!” 😂😂
My daughter wanted me to take her to a WMBA game (we go to five or six NBA games a year), we happened to be in a city that has a WMBA team, and I told her that I would try to get tickets. I was told by friends in the town to get the cheapest tickets, and then move seats. It was a joke, I have been to high-school boys games with more people. When we left, my daughter told me that she was glad she went, but it was MBA games from now on. She said that the women were terrible, and that SHE thought that our JV team could beat either team.
I was on vacation outside the US with my young sons. One night were in our hotel room and a little home sick we found ESPN on our tv. They were showing an WNBA game. So I figured what the hell let's watch it. Without any commentary or opinion from me my young sons started jumping up and down howling in laughter at how bad these ladies played basketball. Air balls, shots hitting the underside of the rim. Bricks off the side of the board. Missed layups. Their laughter got louder and louder.
My point is yes it took me being 3,000 miles from home to finally watch a WNBA game and that people naturally know what embarrassingly bad basketball looks like no matter their age.
If you want to be shocked, look up the WNBA player stat leaders. I agree with you, and couldn't understand how many of them were listed as 40-50%+ shooters - all of em
In all fairness, I also learned they have about 4 minutes of good basketball with movement, passing and a good shot or two. But then you'll have to endure the next 11 minutes of pure ridiculousness. @@GeorgeousGeorgeousGeorge
@@GeorgeousGeorgeousGeorge Isn't the FT average higher than the NBA though?
@@buttlesschapThe scorekeeper's a diversity hire
@buttlesschap it looked like tge men's stats tbh, which kinda blew my mind seeing hie women shoot in the wnba idfk
The WNBA is so weird. The majority of the United States has no respect for the “league”nor their championships. Candace Parker didn’t play a single game of their Finals series, yet collected another championship ring that has as much value as a ring pop from a bubble gum machine. An NBA great like Charles Barkley still has to congratulate her and she received it with not much enthusiasm because she understands the difference between an NBA World Championship ring and the WNBA Bubble Championships…well they do travel, but there are barely any fans (in the arena or at home watching). 🤷♂️
Hey! Take it back! I enjoy ring pops. Do you have any morals? Putting ring pops at the very bottom!? You never had sour apple, have you?
nba world lmao.
Internationals watch NBA too, but we aren't ever going to find out how to watch WNBA
Lebron James of the WNBA. Collecting rewards and stat padding.
@@micshaz I think there is a WNBA pass lol but no one in there right mind would pay for that.
Even if they lowered the hoops to 8' in the WNBA, its not going to make them look any less goofy and unathletic. It would just replace a bunch of lowlights of wide open missed layups to a bunch of lowlights of wide open missed dunks.
That's probably not true. Women's volleyball IMHO is a better watch than men's because the nets are lower and they can be more graceful.
It would be better because they would keep trying to dunk or do athletic things and fail hilariously.
@@ChristopherHalbersma Have you ever watched the WNBA?? Those women are the farthest thing from "graceful" you'll ever see. 😂😂
@@Unnamed942 In large part because they're playing on a hoop that's too tall for them. The WNBA is the equivalent of taking every 6' 10" + male and making a basketball league out of it. They're selecting for people too tall because the hoops are too tall.
@@ChristopherHalbersma Compare even the tallest, most awkward male professional basketball player to the most athletic WNBA player, and the difference is night and day. Males are just far more explosive and athletic than females. In certain sports it's less noticeable, and that's why, for example, female tennis is much more popular than the WNBA. When the difference between athletic ability is so stark and noticeable, why would anybody watch the WNBA when it's such an inferior product?
Plus the guys are WAYYY more skilled, contrary to what many proponents of the WNBA claim.
How often do you see guys in the NBA just dribble the ball off their feet to end games, blow wide open layups, and airball wide open shots? I'm not saying it never happens, but it definitely isn't a regular occurrence for NBA players. Watch any WNBA game for five minutes, however, and you're bound to catch a lowlight.
I’m tired of wnba players always saying they’re just as good as nba players yet they can’t handle 10’ rims can’t handle 3 pt line at the distance the nba has theirs and can’t score the points or bring in the crowd nba players bring it
The sense of entitlement of these WNBA players. They think that just because they worked hard and are skilled, it automatically means they are entitled to NBA-level money. EVERY professional athlete work hard and sacrifice and only a small percentage of them get paid generational wealth. Womens lacrosse is way more entertaining to watch than the WNBA and has a significantly larger fanbase but they're not out here whining for a higher pay because they're not delusional. They understand that SKILL does not equate money, revenue does... But the sense of entitlement of these WNBA players is something else... just an ugly mix of ignorance and arrogance.
Yup
Even that argument in their favor is weak. WNBA players are not as SKILLED as NBA players. It’s that simple. There is no reason they should be getting paid the same. Period.
Skilled?! That's a stretch. The LFL is way more entertaining to watch. Mostly because those gals play like savages. The wnba is softer than toilet paper.
@@J23LA24That is most of women’s sports in general. The skill level is way below that of their male peers. Someone in here is gonna say Tennis, but even then, they only need to win 2 out of 3 sets instead of 3 out of 5.
Workee hard? Skilled? My old age ~10 team looked about as good as them, if not better 😂😂😂
What gets me is that they keep blaming the NBA instead encouraging more support from female fans.
Forreal why ain't women supporting the WNBA being brought up?
@@solomontrump exactly
Lowering the rim, having girls doing windmill dunks or whatever, still won't get me to watch. Seen every dunk known to man/woman, and I'm not impressed. Don't even care for the current NBA or it's whiny, entitled players...
I'm a basketball fan and I find the fixation with dunks embarrassing. They're only worth 2 points. They're impressive but not important.
The Chinese table tennis player Ma Long has an estimated net worth of $20 million in 2024. His major income comes from prize money and endorsements.
Ma Long is 35
I love how as he is saying they're talented you just have their blooper reels going in the background😂😂😂😂
Their not bloopers, that’s the plays of the year😂
😭😭 just horrible imagine these WNBA reels on Shaqin a fool 🤣🤣🤣 the chic's would be pissed
Bro, I was thinking the same thing 😂
The level is ridiculous and an embarrassment for women athletes. There is zero reason for them being this clumsy, lack basics and play a slow clumsy game. No reason they can't be solid skill and strategy wise and play a fast strategic style like in college and Europe. That sport where women shoot on the hoop without a backboard, they are like Steph with that shot. And women's field hockey, top level. Even MMA fighting. I can't understand how the WNBA is this bad.
Candace Parker learned from LeBron James to never retire, just to collect empty longevity awards and meaningless super-post-prime championships. Michael Jordan won his 5th ring at AGE 34 and Kobe Bryant won his 5th ring at AGE 31. LeBron James is AGE 39 with STILL only ≈ 4 NBA Championships. I had to use the “≈” symbol to signify only 3 NBA Championships and ONE 2020 BLM Mickey Tricky Hell in a Cell Orlando Disney Bubble Championship. 🤷♂️ 👀
Even as an MJ fan, y'all are goofy for hating on the 2020 ring. If MIA or DEN won that ring people wouldn't diss it
@@Fernando_616 Acording to LeKing James the bubble ring was the hardest in NBA HISTORY. So make of that what you will.
@@Fernando_616 You’re clearly not an MJ fan. The bubble championship and the in season tournament *combined* don’t even make up 0.5 of a normal ring.
@@Fernando_616You have no proof that people would say that if MIA or Denver won your ass is just assuming. The bubble ring was a joke. Alot of players either wasn’t prepared to play, didn’t want to play or flat out did not play. And it was in a empty gym. It’s was a joke 🤣🤣🤣🤣. What finals is in a city that didn’t make the finals? That’s how you know
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 he also said winning in CLE made him the greatest 😂 It was dumb yeah, but a chip is a chip
The WNBA has been in the -red since the year it was created. They OWE money.
They owe the NBA $250-$300 million dollars, imagine that much money being donated to a business that you own and operate and not being grateful to the donor, such is the WNBA.
The level of entitlement is unreal.
If I was bringing in nothing but losses (year after year after year)...I wouldn't dream of demanding a raise.
I am so sick of these unlikable women. I hope they shut down the WNBA.
WNBA should experiment with it during the off-season to test the sweet spot height for the players. It would be more aggressive game.
It’s funny how the nba tries new things like tournaments, formats, rule changes, d league- g league .. the lists goes on never a dull moment fan engagement is important so much so the women are coming over to comment the mens games etc ..
U tell those bimbo 1 good idea and you become their worst enemy. They look at ppl with such disgust 😂😂😂 it’s comical I’ll watch them explain why they need equal pay before watching a game. And my little sister was in the W 😂😂😂
I love watching the WNBA fail. It makes me feel good knowing women don’t support each other.
The entitlement is ridiculous. Harsh truth is that there’s nothing exciting or attractive about the WNBA.
Yes back in the 70’s bowling and golf payouts in tournaments were very close. Nowadays with the popularity of golf growing and PBA Bowling going down the payouts are way different. Just how it is.
They can’t dunk or make a wide open layup and want the respect nba players get, once they get a compliment from a nba player they rub it the wrong way, that’s why no one watches them
Lower the rim, " Juwanna Mann ' like the movie , They had a female football lingerie league before try that . Remember Janet Jackson at the Superbowl , have one of them randomly whip out a tiddie during the game , 7th caller wins a prize { if anyone notices }
better than any ideas we heard from them so far
Do you have other ideas ? lets help them get on track
I've never seen that quote of Griner saying she wants to 1v1 Boogie. I almost spit out my drink.
no woman complains about volleyball nets being lower than the mens, and the fact that women often earn more than men do in that sport.
Its just redicilous
I really appreciate the balanced and fair mindset of the current Nuggets players, it's refreshing to hear players who are realistic, unbiased and don't have unhealthy agendas.
"Although the Chinese Table Tennis Association had capped the Super League salary to US$167K, the top tier players could make ~US$600K in the 3-month season. Players like Ma Lin and Wang Liquin could make more.
May 14, 2014"
Your point ? Are you trying to say that the WNBA players deserve more?
MPJ made such a great point ... 100% the best female pingpong - player is more widely known then the best female basketball player ...
and I am pretty sure the most paid WNBA player is not making (much) less money then the best female pingpong player!
Looking at all those air balls and missed easy lay ups is hilarious! What a comedy sport.
I have way more respect for Michael “possession ends here” Porter
Great name 😂 😂 😂
Loved the 10:32 long episode of Shaqtin A Fool playing while you talked!
Let's be real, lowering the rims isn't magically going to make people want to watch women be bad at basketball
Lowering the rim is the dumbest idea . Access to lower rims for practice will be extremely limited . Every park is 10ft.
These are what basketball fans, NBA superstars and legends have been saying for how many years now and still women’s professional basketball players get mad and angry at Their takes on their lead if you really want to get upset at somebody or someone is the upper management in the WNBA because it gets boring after the third or fourth quarters of watching the WNBA. that’s why a whole lot of WNBA women professional basketball players are so delusional and stuck up in their own ways.
They could also try to stop moving really slow and awkwardly
Great points and great video. Equal rights and equality are not the same, yet they use them interchangeably. Equal rights mean that men and women should both be allowed to play basketball and fans can watch. Equality means they would all try out for the same league. And guess what? No woman would ever make it onto a team where men and women are equal.
the question is not the players' attitudes, but who is in charge of the WNBA and what are their motivations? if you have Shaq, and every other male basketball fan in the world saying "I would watch the WNBA if women could dunk on each each other" that means that there are millions of potential viewers that could be converted into active fans -- immediately and at NO COST. If the top decision makers know this, and don't want to make the modification, that means that the WNBA is essentially a charity organization and not a real professional sports league. The issue of the players' attitudes would improve overnight if they were suddenly playing in full stadiums and bringing in real money.
4:02 just shows how advanced the sport is. That girl needed to stat pad a little to improve her rebounds average so she got 4 in the same possession. Next level stuff
3 rebounds and 1-4 fg on one possession lol
NBA changed all the rules to increase scoring but the WNBA can't lower the hoops 😂😂😂
Ok so now where do girls go to practice?
@@quickie171. It's super simple to lower the rims and most of the high class backboard will go down automatically... did you really think they gonna have to find a whole new special building to get the rims lowered 😂 it doesn't look like they practice anyway and 2. It's gonna be boring either way so it don't matter
@@jordancobb7553 its super easy to lower all the rims? lmao
most is not all , and even then what do they do outside of school?
if you think i meant find a building , you have lost their mind.
yes they practice, what a stupid thing to say,
I used to think lowering the rim might help and maybe it will slightly but it won't solve the problem. Lowering the rim and shortening the court won't change athleticism, speed, aggression or having men (the overwhelming majority of fans) seeing themselves in women players. However, if a woman can beat a NBA player, especially a star, there's nothing preventing her from joining the NBA and getting that big paycheck.
Women are very sensitive for one thing. If you say anything ...They will take it out of context.He is speaking the truth. He actually said a couple of positive things to say about how talented women are. But Most women took it the wrong way. It's a True Statement💯💯💯💯
People rather be progressive than to speak the obvious truth.
if the rims get lower, I cant even fathom all the cool shit we'd start seeing each night
They're still no where near as coordinated.
@@wjatube100% but at least now they have a chance to have decent highlight reels
@@donthevalen whatever works. I used to think bikinis was the answer. Oofah.
@@wjatube I concur with that
They should have lowered the rim a long time a long time ago
The players of the NBA and ABA used to have to work during the off season to make ends meet. They had to go through shit until the NBA got popular. So you think some of the greats got paid what one of the best basketball players SHOULD have gotten paid? Hell no! Because the sport wasn’t popular enough.
Women being paid 10000000% more of what they generate is the opposite of equal rights.
they could lower the rims to 5 feet and nobody still won't watch that shit its wack its trash
They're not skilled or trained well enough. It IS trash. Bring in a military crew to train the worst team in the wnba and I bet it will be a lot better.
@@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 and the military had to adjust the physical training standards in order for them to make into the military… so they could bring in the green berets and they’d still be trash
real shit
I’m surprised their hadn’t been a separate league created by someone not connected to the NBA where the rims are lowered.
I will not allow the Ping Pong slander to go unchallenged lmao😅😅😂😂
Lowering the rim is a legitimate suggestion. Look how other leagues make adjustments and rule changes over time to improve the sport. The NHL changed the net size, eliminated no two line passes, made overtime 3 v 3, added a shootout. All these things to make the game more exciting for viewers. What has the WNBA done to improve its product?
MPJ is my guy. Finally someone with self awareness and gratitude.
Lowering by 1ft will be a BIG difference to their efficiency and product.
We understand trying/fighting for equality but NOT EVERYTHING could be equal.
And that's nature.
It will only increase the number of dunks, the fundamentals of shooting will be the same so the percentage of shots made will not change
I don't think WNBA players should be paid more if the fan base and ticket sale are not there. One reason why the WNBA seen to not understand is because people are using sports to rationalize why they should not get paid more or why they should lower the rim. Using R&B music is the best way to help WNBA understand, such as, asking them which artist should be paid more Bobby Brown or Witney Houston. If they say WH than should WH pay BB for the short fall in ticket sales. Women, esp black women, have been taught victim hood for centuries and that's the mechanism that they use to thrive, survive, protect their position and gain a better position in this world.
When the WNBA has been around as long as the NBA, then they can squawk about the pay.
I'm damn sick and tired of women demanding equal pay when they've done a job 5 years (as an example) compared to a man who has been in his career 25.
Ok that dodgeball segment was funny af
They should end the WNBA no one cares about watching, supporting and even women don't support them. I forgot what WNBA team was in the finals a few years ago. My manager was given WNBA shirts to give away to our store, and no one wanted any of them. A basket full of WNBA shirts were left in the middle of the store for anyone to take since the employees didn't want any of them. My manger made a joke saying we could burn them, use them to clean animal poop, and do whatever expect wear them. He took a few to use them as floor mats for his house.
They should lower the goals completly and put them up forever in a storage closet of the arena
😂😂😂
As someone who been watching the WNBA as a little kid, I completely agree. I believe that these WNBA players should get paid more but since the WNBA is not as popular like the NBA, it's just like gonna happen like I understand women sports and women players are talent and all that but it's just not the same ass men sports. I love the WNBA and I will always support the WNBA just like what I do with the NBA, NHL, MLB, NFL and other women sports but they have to realize that the WNBA is not the same. You really don't see any WNBA games packed out until the playoffs come in my opinion and for someone who watches and loves the WNBA, it's just the painful truth
facts peace
Another thing that would help, the WNBA needs to know their target audience. The WNBA players are not getting the women customers, BUT IF THE WNBA players change their uniforms they can get more men customers.
Curious Mike is a criminally understated podcast. MPJ a real introspective young man.
Bro thought he would put the funniest highlights available on the web and we wouldn’t notice.
Top ping players make $20 million career, that's nore than Sue Bird, Taurasi, Candace Parker, etc have made their entire careers.
That’s what happens when you play a globally popular sport. Women’s basketball can’t hold a candle to ping pongs global popularity. Seems weird to say but it’s true.
There’s an amazing irony that we will have a three point line that is closer to the basket. We will make the ball actually smaller and they need to keep that but if we talk about lowering the rim they get upset even though they already have a bunch of things that help them with the sport.
Put a contract in front of these women. They will get paid 50% of what THEIR league generates. Yes, they deserve FIFFY PERCENT of what THEIR job produces.
So put all of them together pay them a total of NEGATIVE 5 million dollars.
Using these entitled women’s logic, they should all be in debt.
The best comparison is the modeling industry. Females are payed way more the male models & the requirements to be a male model are even harder .
I can't believe the WNBA still exists. I wish my business paid me without me generating any money. Also, it was absolutely shameful how they left a Marine POW who was captured for over 3 years and prisoner swapped for Brittany Griner instead.
Mens basketball took a huge leap financially when Dr J took the court, when they merged the 2 leagues, when they brought BACK dunking, then when Magic and Bird went against the each other. Those items grew the sports rev. Then WNBA is still truly new! I’ve played and dated women that have played college and WNBA ball. Skill, hustle, relentless is right there. You have to give it time to grow. I believe great college battles will bring on great WNBA upticks in views. More women will start to dunk and develop that part of their game but that has to almost be taught/developed in JH and HS I believe. Plenty of Spud Webbs out there so size, non factor.
The balls is smaller.. the 3 pointer is shorter… the women literally dont grow like men.. but we draw the line at rim height? LOWR THE GAHH DAMN RIM.
He's right about the fundamentals. Women have to work harder at the fundamentals just to gain space, while men can do that with athleticism
They want equality but want to lower the rims... SAY WHAT!!!! No they shouldn't have equality
The WNBA easily forget that fact NBA has been losing money since their inauguration.
Honestly, coming down to it, I think it’s very simple. People watch some sport for technicality spectacle, others for the physical spectacle. People watch the big 4 sports, football, basketball, baseball, and hockey for the _physical spectacle._ Seeing a player diving over a defender for a first down, a player dunk, a player slam a home run, and/or a slap shot from 30 feet right past the goalie, we love to see those physical feats of speed, strength, determination, fight.
But there are also sports where we enjoy seeing _technical spectacle_ and a good example of that is golf. Do people *LOVE* to see someone hit a massive drive 100s yards of yards? Yes, but that doesn’t win golf matches typically, people enjoy seeing when all the chips are on the line, and from like 90 feet out, someone measured the way the grass was affecting the ball that day, the slight dips and raises in the course, the wind, and accurately calculate that *SO MUCH* that they sink a putt from like 90 feet out with such precision. People love seeing that stuff so much, every gets quiet, watches holding their breath, and they see a prime Tiger Woods just drills putt so perfectly with such *_PERFECT_* precision and calculation, it’s insane to watch. Basketball is unfortunately not a sport that people watch for the technical greatness.
Is there _a lot_ of technical precision required in basketball? Yes, but people don’t watch it for Tim Duncan’s 15 foot bank shot and his consistent 24 points a game, they watched for Big Diesel drop step dunking some other center and a power forward who didn’t stand a chance and got absolutely posterize dunked by a prime Shaq or watching Kobe going against 3 other defenders on the last shot and raising up and sinking the shot while staring them down. Nobody was moved really with Kareem’s skyhook, but when Jordan took off and had his tongue sticking out while dunking on someone’s head, people tuned in for that. Hell, there’s so many great 3 point shooters throughout history, and they weren’t seen as spectacular players who warranted big money and being kids favorite player until Steph Curry. His quick release, his shimmy, his “nap time” celebration, taking shots, staring down other teams bench or looking away because he knew the shot was going in, taking shots form 40 feet out in stride and routinely sinking them. Hell, no shooter revolutionized the game like he did until he became popular.
No woman is sinking shots as deep as his and/or having his level of charisma so stop being in your egos and lower the damn rim. Hell, most of the time you see WNBA players talk, they’re so damn miserable sounding anyway too, it’s like they’re not having fun playing a children’s and getting paid for it. It’s always, “well, what can men do next for us, we deserve, actually we’re *_entitled_* to more for our boring ass layups, slow game, air balls, and inferior product.” I honestly believe that these women only don’t wanna lower the rim and get more dunks honestly because they simply don’t wanna have to face the reality that their game offers less while they keep *DEMANDING MORE.* If they lower the rims and start dunking more only to find it doesn’t move the needle for their game, then what’s next to complain about? It’s easier to constantly attack and blame, typically male fans, for not being better and doing more than just coming to the realization that their game is boring as watching paint dry.
WNBA also has a talent problem. They do not have any players that are destroying the competition like Jordan did back in the day. The only WNBA athlete I can name is the one that was arrested in Russia recently (Griner). Having recognizable players is important for brand recognition. Even non-sports fans can name players from NBA, NFL, UFC, etc.
Lower rims to 9 feet. The problem with the wnba is the product looks completely different then the nba. People will watch females fight because a punch still looks like a punch a head kick still looks like a head kick. A layup line will never look like a slam dunk. Lower the rim to 9 feet!
Do you really believe that enough people will come out and pay to see these players fight and dunk?
Can we adress the fact that a WNBA game looks like a highschool gym class? This is NOT basketball and its not because they're women. The low level regarding technique, skills and strategy is ridiculous. And how clumsy they are makes it look even worse. They should do better. No reason for women to not have a fast paced motion based game like how a good college or euro team plays
WNBA players complaining about equal pay is the same as the the g-league saying they deserve the same pay as the Superstars
Lowering the rims will NOT help their MASSIVE number of AIR BALLS!!
The thing is that to have that pay is impossible for the WNBA right now. If nobody watches, you can't be paid the same. I think they gotta focus on the more practical aspects of playing first.
I think women should tell the WNBA what they don't like about their league. These Wnba players wont take any advice from men.
In almost others sports, adjustments were made according to the sport men and women play professionally and in the olympics. Why is it so hard for these women to accept the same is needed in basketball?
The problem with lowering the rim is that you can drop it to 9' and 95% of the players still would not be able to dunk. The WNBA knows this and it is why they go so ballistic when it is mentioned. Women cannot jump. Like at all.
In elementary, junior high and highschool. We had tons of mixed pickup games. We played at the old elementary school yard. The rims were 9ft. It was so much fun. Especially when the girls dunked. None of us were good enough to play on the school teams. But after the second weekend of our games, lots of family started to show up and watch our mini tournaments. Loudest cheers came from the ladies dunking on other ladies. Really opens up the game when ladies can have more options than just layups or just taking shots away from the rim.
Zero revenue = Zero pay
Smaller ball, shorter 3 point line, and shorter quarters..... How is lowering the rim offensive?! It can literally save their league...
The simplest question to the WNBA is....where is the money going to come from?
I'm sure they would argue that they want the revenue from the NBA but then that's not fair on the men's game.
Men's college basketball is leagues better than the WNBA
Lowering the rim and shorten the court might make them more watchable. Equal opportunities don’t have equal results !
Hating on the WNBA has become really low hanging fruit at this point. That being said, I don't understand why they get so offended at the suggestion of lowering the rims. They already have a smaller ball(despite having same size rim, giving an advantage in shooting) and the 3pt line is 3 and a half feet closer. Lowering the rim only seems logical, and would make up for the differences in height and athleticism that males have. It's not just about dunking either, one of the most frustrating things is seeing missed layups, it's like seeing missed chip field goals in football.
The real problem is just that someone else is getting more money, and people always want what someone else has. Most people would consider it a dream to make six figures doing something they love.
If they do not want the rims to be lower, then lower their shirt. Otherwise, their money will not go up.
They lowered the nets in women’s volleyball compared to men’s volleyball……… Now look at college women’s volleyball! Everyone watches that.