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- čas přidán 22. 02. 2024
- 🔥 Dive deep into the heart of the WNBA's most contentious debate with @GilsArena as we explore the logic behind the league's reported struggles and the outspoken words of Kelsey Plum and other star players. Is the mindset within the WNBA contributing to its challenges? We're breaking it all down, sharing insights, and reacting to the most heated discussions.#WNBA #KelseyPlum #Gil’sArena
🏀 Join us as we dissect the statements made by WNBA stars like Kelsey Plum and Breanna Stewart about wage disparities, fan engagement, and what it really takes to elevate a league. From hard-hitting reactions to expert analysis, this video leaves no stone unturned.
📈 Understand the complex dynamics between player wage demands, the league's revenue model, and proposed solutions to enhance the WNBA's appeal and financial health. Plus, a special focus on Adam Silver's remarks and why cutting through the noise is crucial.
✨ After watching, do you think the players’ demands are justified, or is a change in mindset required? How can the WNBA bridge the gap? Drop your thoughts, insights, and solutions in the comments below!
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Women boy I swear 😂
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All these girls are gonna be so mad when Caitlin gets all those advertising dollars when she gets in the league. I’m gonna laugh my ass off
“It’s not fair that players from college can get advertising and brand deals when we’ve played longer. I blame the men”
@@IamGoldenboi lol 🥲
They are already mad and hating on her before she even comes to the league! The smart thing to do would be embrace her because it helps your league but that's not how WNBA players roll...
Her biggest hurdle will be that she is straight. It's already been an issue with other straight players. I think she is so mentally tough it will actually raise her game but she's not going to enjoy her success as much as she should.
She's getting it already. It will only increase.
Michael Porter Jr definetly dunks and has dunked on people.
For someone that claims men don’t watch her sport, she definitely proved that she doesn’t watch the NBA with that take 😂
MP Jr is 6ft 10......wtf does she mean he doesn't dunk....
See most of these women are use to no one telling them they are wtong
He’ll dunk after missing a few shots….
Again women don't know what the fuck they're talking about talking outside of her neck
Bro he was doing 360’s and eastbays back in highschool. It’s well known he can dunk and he can dunk pretty damn good
Is nobody gonna talk about how sports just change all the time? There used to be no 3 point line, hockey nets were smaller, the bases in baseball were smaller, the field goal posts in football were moved further back... so many players had to adapt their games to these new rules when it happened. Why is this any different?
This is the nail in the coffin right here! Crazy thing is that they accepted playing with a smaller ball but are opposed to lower rims.
@@IamGoldenboithis! Smaller ball, 3pt line is closer but lowering rim is where they draw the line like wtf
They could easily get used to playing on a shorter rim. Anybody who has ever played at thr local park or the rec center already know that those rims are almost never ten feet but guys shoot on them just fine.
@@cotati76 Our school used to collapse the backboard and rim to make space for netball and we played on those collapsed rims just fine😂😂
Nfl has a rule change every year lls
Crazy losing 10 million a year and they still pay dem is nuts
I would say leave things the way they are. The NBA take their hands out of it. And let them women figure it out
League closed w/bankruptcy in less than 5 years.
Let them starve with that foolish pride
They'll call the NBA sexist for not financially backing the WNBA. They already took it for granted.
PREACCCCHHHHHHH
@@IamGoldenboiit would be less than 3 years
The only tired conversation is why the wnba still exists 🤷🏿♂️
Now isn’t that ironic 😂 because without it, there would be no other WNBA chatter
Decline the NBA $25 million yearly subsidy and go out on your own.
Maybe its a tax write off for the nba?
That whole argument against lowering the rim is hilarious. I’ve messed around with friends hooping and lowered the rim (to 8 feet in my case because I’m 5’7” with no hops 😂), and it only took me like an hour at most to adjust my shot where I can hit shots somewhat regularly. Don’t bring that BS where it’s going to take years for pro hoopers to adjust.
Also if they drop the rim then more women will dunk and the girls who dunk on a 10ft, they can do crazier dunks. This girl can work on her handles and throw allly oops to the taller ones.
@@01cbr929rider there’s so many ways the WNBA can make their league more watchable and profitable, but the players’ egos won’t allow them to listen to reason.
Agreed. I said the same thing about playing with a Nerf hoop. The ball is smaller, the hoop is smaller, and it takes no time at all to adjust and learn how to make shots.
They remind me of a store that goes out of business because they think they give great customer service, but none of the customers think they do.
The Entirety of Gordon Ramsey: KITCHEN NIGHTMARES
In these interviews people are still afraid to be real with them so they keep this narrative going.
The issue I think with this episode was that they had a Milko Grimes signed on as a host and they had a falling out with her. I think they didn’t bring the smoke because they didn’t want to have another falling out with a female host. You know what types of narratives get created if something looks like a pattern even if unintended.
Wo*** cannot comprehend logic. They take all criticism as personal attacks, even if they are general statements.
"Sports fans are fickle"
Wo***: "No I'm not!"
They play less games. Less playoff games. They play a shorter season. They use a smaller ball. Their 3point line is closer. They lose $10 million a year. AND THEY STILL THINK THEY DESERVE TO BE PAID THE SAME AS THE NBA?! They just expect the NBA to pay them more & NBA players less 🤦🏽♂️
Hate to bring politics into this but this is the problem with modern society… there is no wage gap… choices impact wages…… male models make less than female models right???
Male models should get paid more.
My thing is should they blame the women for not supporting the WNBA? The women always supporting the men sports
They should absolutely blame women for not supporting them but they won’t as it against their established group policy.
Literally never seen Rihanna or Beyoncé on IG court side at a W game.
Lol, people going to the game is not enough... they need sponsors and a TV deal.. this excitement with CC will not last without those 2 major things
Because real women like masculine men who are competitive. They get turned on by it.
Not as much as men
The problem is the “W” in front of the “NBA”.
Lmao 😅😂
@TheBongReyes That's not the problem. The problem is woke cultists claiming to support and empower women (but in reality teaching them to be entitled crybabies who hate women who are not puppets of the woke, that are actually strong, skilled and beautiful) living rent free in our heads. Nobody was complaining about the WNBA when it was founded during the NBA's 1996-1997 season.
Their is no wage gap. In any business you cannot pay out more than you are taking in.
It’s just simple mathematics bro. 😎
I love how they say we have to get used to it…that’s nonsense. There isn’t a 10 foot LA Fitness hoop anywhere. They are either lower or higher. You adjust quickly. It’s not hard. You have adjustable hoops at home. It’s an easy adjustment to lower a rim 6 inches. Makes your shot easier. I love how they constantly make it sound like it’s a hard adjustment. It’s barely noticeable:
Politics is what diminishes the WNBA's entertainment. Not their play. If the women just focus on improving their brand and not competing with the men, the WNBA will improve.
Exactly, they need to adapt the rules to be more in line with the physical abilities of women!!
1000%. Look at women’s track or gymnastics. We have Olympic medalists in women’s elite sports. But they are impressive period, not by comparing themselves to the men who are strides faster. Women’s gymnastics is a global industry. There are ways to elevate.
Maybe interact with fans more, do summer ball camps, or just take a f*cking note from the men who do leaps and bounds around you. 🏀🏀🏀🏀
I wish someone had asked Plum how can revenue be shared between players and owners when the league is operated at a net loss. That revenue isn't a profit revenue 😅
Exactly. Profit is revenue minus expenses. And when those expenses come out, they’re a net negative. So where are they supposed to get money from? 😂
I know the educational system in the US is poor but any idiot should be able to figure out that if there is no revenue then there is nothing to share! I don't understand any conversation about pay after that statement? The question should be now are you getting paid now? You operate at a loss. You have no revenue yet the average salary is over 100K and past 250K...How? Where I'm from we call that Welfare...
There IS revenue, actually. Every dollar the WNBA takes in is revenue. What there ISN'T in the WNBA is profit.
All businesses have some sort of revenue, but all that really matters is the bottom line, which is what's left over when you subtract expenses from revenue. The NBA generates so much money it can guarantee its players a huge precentage of the pie and teams still make an enormous profit. After operating expenses are subtracted the WNBA loses on average about $10 to12 million every single year. Any other business in America would have shut down long ago, yet the WNBA survives because of the welfare handouts it receives from the NBA.
Bottom line: You're right, these women are not only poor entertainers, the're woefully uneducated when it comes to basic economics, despite the fact all of them came from college campuses. It's pure ignorance for someone like Kelsey Plum to suggest WNBA players should get the same percentage of revenue as NBA players. For that to happen NBA owners would have to light even more of their money on fire, which is basically what they're doing with the money they give the WNBA.
Why do people use this phrase "any idiot should?" If the person is an idiot, they wouldn't understand. They wouldn't have the IQ since it's low. Which means they have some form of mental handicap. I think the phrase you are looking for is "acting like an idiot."
Education also teaches women they are oppressed and to blame men
@@MarkMay-cr6bv Absolutely correct. If your industry generates negative $10 million a year in profit, you shouldn't be paid at all. These women are delusional. They want the same pay as men in the NBA, and the men of the NBA are already subsidizing them. The WNBA has NEVER generated a profit in 25 years. These women should just STFU and take basic economics. They are lucky to be paid at all
A woman not being accountable??? What??? No way???
Right..... 😂😂
@@jonathanlabbe4711 😂😂😂
Yup, usual suspects
WNBA players think they need to speak like NBA players...but NBA players make large revenue to keep up with that ego
I think a lot of people forget when the NBA banned dunking at one point for “whatever reason”. They adopted it back when they noticed the consumer wanted that and watched the SMALLER league (the ABA). They brought that aspect back because they noticed the people wanted excitement. They wanted to be entertained. Of course most men would watch women dunk on one another, but I think it’s a metaphor. The game is not always entertaining, it’s bad enough that the athleticism isn’t really on par with what you get in men’s sports that’s why people always talk about women dunking. But you just need to figure out what the excitement factor is and bring that in. It ain’t just “give us more money” without changing the game.
Very well said
Ask if to say the slam dunk shot is what saved the NBA. The "no dunk rule " never reached the NBA. The slam dunk shot came into existence in the 1950's. It took until the mid 1980's to see a profitable NBA team. 35 years after the existence of the slam dunk. Also, many teams went defunct during this 35-year period.
They banned it to limit Wilt
@@eddiechan2736 hence the air quotes lol
The NCAA banned the dunk from 1967 to 1977. Some say because of 7ft 2in Kareem Abdul-Jabber [Lew Alcinder]. Kareem attended UCLA from 1966 to 1969. Where a UCLA Bruin Abdul-Jabber won three consecutive national championships. The NBA never implemented a no dunk rule.
Okay what is their answer ? What are the wnba players answer ? Okay What is the answer? The league is going to fold.? I am a female and I love basketball 🏀. How you expect to get paid more if you don’t come to some common Ground. The fact is the Game is boring. They have no answers to make it better, What are your Answers???? Every thing that people suggest they take offense to it. I am a Female but she is out of pocket. She has know solutions. He asked her what’s the problem what is the solution? Let The WNBA handle their own business! I hate to say this but they don’t want help. Let the league fold . I am sick of this. What are the Answers???? She has not given any answers of what can they do to make it better. Bottom line is they are not interested in making there league better. Okay Gil l am listening 👂. I am so glad I found your channel. And thank you for the Brake down. She don’t care about the commitment to the League. She don’t care about the Younger Generation. Please don’t ask her anything else. Because she doesn’t care about what he is saying. Mc Cants was right on Point!!!
Thank you so much for this. I’m frustrated just like you. Hopefully the WNBA can capitalize on the new up and coming women joining the league with their huge fanbase.
The answer is that they aren't interested in answers. They simply want a handout without having to put the work in to make changes to improve their product. They want the NBA players to give them more welfare. It's that simple. When asked what the solution is to the problem, most will only say that the men should be cutting back on their spending and that they should be giving the WNBA more $$$$ to pay their players more. That is welfare. Plain and simple. That's not how business works in this country. They are truly lucky that the WNBA is still in existence. It shouldn't be and wouldn't be without the welfare of the NBA.
the way I see it, the ladies' game is dependent on shooting. Clark and the new breed is what's needed. Ace shooters only, having lived in Iowa most my life, girls bb was always a thing at the HS level. Shooters win games. if they try and lower the rim and make a mini-men's game they will fail. Embrace Clark and coach shooting and strategy and the W might get the W.
Thx! I will! It was lengthy, but too many people were responding strictly with emotion, so I wanted to put some facts into what's is actually happening! I Coached AAU Men & Women's Teams! I started with the Boys in the late 90's, but the parents & the lackeys wore .me out after 3 Season's! Then, I Coachec the Girls, but I was an extremely aggressive Coach on Off. & Def. & the Girls were just not athletic!
@Lancemannion1147 It’ll surprise no one that the NBA and WNBA are different games physically. My question is, are we pushing the WNBA players to their physical limits like we do with the NBA?
The WNBA makes no revenue.
It's semantics, I know, but the WNBA generates plenty of revenue. What it doesn't generate is profits. Expenses vastly outweigh revenue to the tune of at least $10 million a year, leaving the WNBA operating in the red at a considerable deficit. It stays afloat ONLY because of welfare handouts by the NBA.
Goldenboi, everything you said is 100% on the nose!
And everything that she said was completely wrong, irrelevant, and an evasion of the actual problems and answers.
I've seen so many of these videos, and basically, their number one grievance is that they don't get paid enough, and when asked what they think the solution is, all they ever say is, "Pay us more money."
It's ridiculous.
It’s absolutely insane how they side step and responsibly whilst also avoiding any accountability.
Them: “There’s nothing wrong with the product”
US: Okay so then why aren’t people showing up to the games?
Them: Because they hate us.
It’s impossible to reason with them.
In any business that I’ve been a part of in my life, the owners make the final decision on anything that’s best for the business! They might take into consideration, the opinions of the employees or the staff but the final say, by all means, is for the owner(s) to make.
So at the end of the day, the owners need to just make some rule changes and adjustments, so that the league becomes more exciting.
If the players don’t like it, that’s fine, they can leave and go to a different league if that’s what they decide. Simple.
I imagine that any changes suggested by the owners that require women to change the way they play are shut down by the players.
that’s like the kids vetoing the parents punishment. Mind blowing
2ndly, these Men are giving you a platform to speak and yet u just whining about the men
They have no argument...
It's not a discussion, really...
They don't even make money...
I think the real question is why there is more viewership for women's college basketball vs. the wnba? Until the WNBA takes an honest look at themselves and make logic adjustments to the game that will generate more viewership. As much as we want to just lowering the rims it will be difficult to do. But we can look at ways to open up the offense that will help generate more points. Move in the 3 pt line, loosing the ball handling even more. I believe making changes like that plus promoting the right women will help grow the game.
Identifying us as females instead of women. What??..he doesn't dunk.. what?
Good content bruh
I’m a woman in my 30s and NBA fan. When I think about the WNBA I still associate Lisa Leslie and Sheryl Swoops (or maybe Hoops?). Now, I’m absolutely tuned into the college girls! I love Angel and I don’t care whether or not she’s the best, she’s adorable and relatable and engaging when she speaks. Unlike this woman on Gil’s show. Listening to that her talk in circles made my head hurt. After watching this video entirely, it sounds like the owners need to grow balls let the players walk if they are unhappy, get rid of the majority of the coaches, bench the older slower women, and lower the rim. And when Angel, Caitlyn, Flauje, etc. come into the league, put them in big markets and drip ad dollars on them! I’ll watch then, but what do I know. 🤷🏾♀️
And now you have me interested and watching other videos on this lol. I’m back after one of those videos. I also can’t relate to the wnba players because I have a husband and a son. I don’t identify with lesbians in real life and I’m not interested in paying money to see a bunch of them. The college girls like men… maybe I’m one of the trending names (male identified… 🤷🏾♀️) idk, but that’s another huge issue that unfortunately can’t be solved for in this me too era. Just get rid of the league. Make something different for Angel, Caitlin and the rest of the young girls.
Thank you so much sharing your thoughts. There seems to be issues at every level. I know the players are confused as to why everyone is angry with them but it’s because they don’t even seem to understand the league they’re in. If the players laid down on the sword and played with more finesse in mind and was more open to pushing for change rather than just saying “pay me more money”, then we could see major changes in as little as a few short years. I WANT to watch the WNBA but they need to change everything from top down to bottom up.
Angels- a cry baby
When I heard that there’s 40 year old women still playing in the wnba I couldn’t believe it .. that’s everything I need to know about the wnba they think they have an amazing product but if forty year old women can play at the highest level then it isn’t that amazing of a product in my opinion
To move the wnba court down would be clownish. I’m a man I watch basketball, I watch the wnba. As far as pay they should get more money but right now just grind and craft your profession. You still make more than most of the workforce.
Enabling the dunk in the WNBA would give it something exclusive that college doesn’t have. Because as it stands, women ls college gets way more viewership and has the fan following. Even before CC.
She made a comment about how they play defense all the time. She made it seem like she thinks their D is better than the NBA. But all the highlights I see pretty much as soon a one of the FEMALES starts to take a shot they all stop n watch it, if it goes in the run to the other end, a miss then they try to rebound. AND the one or two who can dunk the always back away from Britney Griner to give her all the room to attempt “her 3inch vertical leap more finger roll than a dunk” Dunk. Give me a damn break and I still can believe one of the WNBA players said it’s the Most Competitive League in the World. The U.S.A. wheel chair basketball team and league it’s in is more competitive that the wnba.
The competitive part comes from the few slots that are opened each year... not the quality of performance
@@bartell20j I get that. Maybe this crop of rookies coming in like Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark that have made women’s NCAA basketball so popular can transfer over and the league can finally make a profit and not have the NBA have to make up the 10-12million dollars to break even. If they start making profit, get more eyes on the league then maybe the can expand and get some more teams. 12 teams vs the NBA’s 30. More teams more opportunity. But I think there needs to be a big attitude shift in the current players and vets cause a crop of popular rookies won’t be the only answer
WNBA players are never seen clamouring for women to watch or attend, whereas men’s hoops rarely, if ever, advertises to girls. They focus on making boys want to play/watch/follow/etc, it’s odd an all-female league would not target females more intensely.
Tbh, it’s not odd, it’s as if they know men predominantly watch sports, but rather than appeal to the only viewers they have, the players wish to subjugate fans to whatever lacklustre product they put out there.
It's funny, that when they talk about the popularity of certain NCAA stars, they are trying hard to push Juju, and avoid the obvious elephant in the room of Caitlin. Lol
They don’t gotta see JUjU for 3 more years that’s why. Trust when it’s her time she’ll get even more shade cause she got the style and skill
Becaus juju is black they don’t want Caitlyn because white !!! Wow let’s look at skills !!his ridiculous!!!
If you pay attention to all the analysts that cover sports men and women, you will see that constructive criticism is not allowed into women's sports. I've seen Stephen a, Tim legs, Shaq, Madd dog ect. Tread lightly when critiquing play by play. Then every women on the panel waiting for a man to say something harsh so they can go in a frenzy like molly, kimberly, jemele. We've seen stephen a decimate nba players for 0 points, trash ,garbage, ridiculous but let him ever call a wnba player out he will lose his job. So honestly if judgment is not allowed nothing will get fixed.
It’s truly sad that we’ve gotten here in society.
LMFAO! The best line ever! Lexi said "Everyone says the problem is the product"! Bingo! Then she says "but that's not it"! What? LOL! I'm not going to listen to what the facts say because I don't agree with the facts...Feelings over Facts...Hey Lexi...WNBA product sucks! Period...Lexi! Men support your game far more then women! Lexi you have all this smoke for men! Where's your smoke for women? Where is the Sisterhood? Girl Power! Why aren't women filling the stands every night? Because even women can see that the product you're putting on the floor is not entertaining enough to hold an audience!
Preachhh!!
Best video on this topic to date ! The announcers that are former players should watch this and learn. They destroy the future by hating on CC instead learning how to go down to the court and sign autographs side by side with CC.
Thank you for watching ❤️
You don't have to watch our game...then begs people to watch the games. Classic.
“They don’t watch our game” “they don’t know us” preceded by “MPJ doesn’t dunk” is crazy
Lmaooo I didn’t even notice that
I watch 80+% of Nuggets games, and the guy dunks pretty much every game, esp. playing with passers like Jokic and Murray who draw all that attention.
Take one for the league. If you have to adjust, in order to make the game more exciting, then that's what you have to do. Old white NBA players weren't dunking, in the 40's, before they brought in Black players. Now, the game is much more exciting, because you have a diverse way of scoring.
The NFL used to be a run first game. Now, it's a passing league. They also moved the field goal back. This made it harder to score and developed the kicker to be more skilled, not to mention that the Quarterback had more area to throw inside the endzone. Point is, the NFL adjusted to make the game better.
Plus, kids growing up will get used to or know no difference in the basketball goal's height.
Otherwise, keep having a minimum fanbase.
I’m siding with girls on this one lowering rims would only make the WNBA about the centers and PF and the game would still be boring
these men are trying their best not to mention the truth, that this W is not enteertaining enough for many reasons...
IMO they break it down really well. They were really empathetic too.
Spot-on. Her attitude would be like a chef refusing to serve pizza bc he doesn’t like pizza so he only wants to serve burgers. The customer is telling you what they want and what they’re willing to spend money on, yet they refuse to change. Eventually they go eat somewhere else.
Talking about coaches holding players back from being entertaining hits real hard 6 games into CC's career.
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Some of these women need to be humble like most of the men in NBA. That’s their biggest issue that’s why women UFC fighters are more well rounded they’re at least humble even when talking game. Crazy…
this man did not miss not once. everytime i stopped the vid to make my comments to myself, this man came in and said the same exact thing and i just was so hype to finally hear someone who views it the same way as i do. we hear the same conversations about this topic 24/7 but no one wants to get to the actually nitty gritty. 100/10 vid brother🤞🏾keep doing your thing
Great minds! 🧠 Thank you for tapping in.
They F -Up More Wide Open Lay Ups, & Open Shots Than Anybody I've Ever Seen...
I mean you saw the clips in the intro 😂😭
It’s just like wrestling. You can be a good worker, but if the product is not entertaining nobody is going to watch it.
I don’t know why people fail to understand this point
@@IamGoldenboidelusion bro. Them being good at basketball doesn’t matter, if I want to watch good basketball I can just watch pick up basketball. Casuals want to see dunks, rivalries, etc hence why Women’s college is waaay more entertaining than the WNBA even tho they’re not dunking, it’s other shit that makes them standout.
I would start with dissecting the argument of revenue share. Stop the whole conversation and expand on that. What is the WNBA's "REVENUE"!? Once you look at the numbers and if there is money and assets there to pay the players than move forward. As I understand it they are a net negative league. Meaning they need to "BORROW" money from the men! Wink Wink Lisa Leslie on Draymond Green's podcast.
That Lisa Leslie comment made me rage quit the episode 😂
I just commented on a wnba post all I said was “lower the rim” man you would think i threatened players 😂
Can’t say that lmao
Funny thing-Caitlin Clark sold out more jerseys since being drafted than the Dallas Cowboys’ entire roster last year. Yes you read that right. And I bet she won’t ask for a percentage of jersey sales. She got drafted and in her interview immediately afterwards asked people to go buy tickets. She understands how a business is run, she’s a marketing major and is an academic all American with a gap of over 3.6. She’s not going to move the needle, she’s going to blow the housing of the gauge.
Bro, I completely 100% agree with you on the McCants comment most of his takes do infuriate me but let them cook 🔥🔥
I had to give to give him his flowers 💐
Dope vid! I agree with everything u said especially 12:23
I hope she @ me and responds to that specifically 🤷🏽♂️
Lexie is so exhausted and clueless. Nothing they’ve said stuck with her. In one ear and out the other 🤦🏾♀️
Easily! And this is the most empathetic I’ve ever seen Gil and McCants!! And still nothing.
I expected her to act the way that she did. Entitled and irrational.Thats their MO. What I was bugged with was Gilbert and the other simps not fact checking her and respectfully giving her enough legit push back where it was needed. They were afraid to push back.
I think they were afraid because they lost Miko. Losing two women on a show in one year can have major impacts on reputation. But you’re absolutely right.
Women think and act with emotion!! We must go by facts!! Facts don’t care about feelings! If i feel like i can lift a house doesn’t mean i can!!
“But I feel like most people should be able to lift houses.”
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@@IamGoldenboi 🤣🤣🤣
Rev is sales but not profit. The WNBA has lower rev and lower profits. In fact at the current revenue share there are no profits. The NBA that you don’t want to listen to is paying your salary. Or closing the gap instead of bankruptcy.
Great points and much respect to the WNBA. I don’t understand why the Mens Game, the NBA is the mark? The games are completely different because the talent is completely different. Most “fans” are watching a game with a talent level that derives from human genetics that only men have. I believe that women’s sports overall is entertaining yet you have to have perspective. Keep pushing the game forward!
College has loyal fans of school. NBA has exciting ball. There is no loyalty or excitement to make WNBA go.
She says people are not watching but talking. They did watch and said this is a waste of time!
Clearly the WNBA is being talked about but not in the ways fans want. We want entertainment, not crybabies.
Love this video, and it took an interesting and revealing turn towards the end. I think you started hearing what may be a legit source of the non-entertainment issue -- the coaches of women's basketball. From what it sounds like, gifted playmakers would rather play a Clark style of basketball but the Auriemmas, the Mulkeys, and the Staleys -- for all their wins and championships -- snuff that style of entertainment out, and then take pot shots at it during press conferences and interviews.
Glad you enjoyed it! ❤️
Truth 💣 right there my man!!
Great topic!
I appreciate it. Thank you for watching and I hope you stick around for more ✊🏾
I just gotta say how out of touch with reality and knowing Basketball history these women are. The Dunk literally changed the game astronomically when it was introduced! Ticket sales and business was pretty much in the dumps until players started dunking on opponents and putting them on posters and highlights! And is that all NBA players do is dunk!? Hell nah but when they do it is such a sight to see…ask anybody women and men alike! Their egocentric, arrogant, defensive, and simplistic views is why they ain’t never going to increase the revenue to get that paper they so desire. Talkin bout a drop step dunk!? Maybe if they lower the rim. Smh.
About how many years do you think until the league is shut down entirely?
How many years before they shut down??? Hard to tell cuz the league keeps simpin for them and really it’s probably Pennie’s to them with how much the Men bring in. Those women need to stop leaching off the men with their no revenue bringing in ass’s and make their own league if they’re so mad.
Lmao 🤣
Those wnba players do not understand the entertainment industry 😅 if you don't know why you should dunk , you just don't understand entertainment. Entitlement is the issue clearly. They want everything, but they just don't want to do anything to get better.
Please tell this to the people saying lowering the rim is a bad idea. Some of them are in this comment section.
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Thank you for the love ❤️
The biggest problem with the "more excitement" argument is you sacrifice good fundamental basketball and great techinical development for the "athletic talent" topic which does increase more viewers, but this is exactl what is hurting the NBA players in INTERNATIONAL competition. The USA women will always destroy their international opponents but the NBA men seem to be struggling a bit against the horrificly talent-less European teams that focus ENTIRELY on the fundamentals. The NBA men should be decimating their international opponents but they can't shoot worth a lick, yet they continually jack up horrible three pointers when their game is dribble penetration and attacking the basket, mastery of the mid-range game, smothering defense, and low-post dominance. But because they are so overwhelmingly athleticly talented, they have developed terrible habits on the court and have seem to have forgotten all about sound fundamental basketball, ESPECIALLY DEFENSIVELY!!! The women however have MASTERED the fundamentals especially in international play. The only issue the women have is they miss far too many layups which if they converted, it would help make the game a lot easier. The women's game will eventually pick up and produce good revenue. The men just don't support the women's game enough and that is a shame. The men's game is not even exciting anymore with all these dastardly three-pointers they shoot every game. The WNBA CAN and WILL survive. But, they must do it independently from the NBA. The dunking issue is just jackass dumb. WNBA revenue has nothing to do with lack of excitement. It has more to do with MARKETING. I don't want to see the women become just as selfish and ineffective as some of the most super-talented men ecause then, they would start over-relying/depending on their TALENT to bail them out of close games (games that should not even be close) to win, but I think Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese and others coming into the league is definitely a step in the right direction. I think it would also help if the WNBA went to a 40-42 game format so the would not have to go overseas for the other half of the season rolls around like the do now. That way, we could see a lot more of these gifted players and the marketing at this stage would also be a big boost. We can discuss potential expansion and other issues later, but these are a few that stick out to me.
I appreciate your thoughts on this. Well written ✊🏾
NBA isn’t hurting in anyway, they’re actually making more money
@@SeverancePay500veiwership is way down in NBA right now and been that way for years.
@@dewanewelch1744 Looking digitally, NBA League Pass subscriptions are up 12% and League Pass viewership is up 13% globally. Watch time on League Pass also is up 28%. The NBA has generated 19.6 billion views across its social media platforms and the NBA App, up 22% vs. last year (Feb 26, 2024) google
Seems NBA’s most expensive app isn’t
It will never be as exciting as men's basketball. Even lowering the rim isnt going to help. The only exciting Women's basketball Ive ever seen was the 3 vs 3 Olympics games That had me on the edge of my seat. It's fast paced and takes a different skill set. That's what the WNBA should be
I’m not willing to count them out until they’ve tried everything the NBA has tried throughout its tenure.
@@IamGoldenboi I feel that, but I think thats the problem. They need a completely different approach to gain fans. Like this WNBA draft was the highest watched of all time, and the women were stunning. Especially Angel Reese and Cameron Brink wearing those dresses. If they're smart, they'll make that a big event like a fashion show and have everyone tuned in every year. Just simple things they need to do differently.
@NastyKnox - You know what? That’s not a bad idea when I think about it. Before today I might’ve rejected it because I believe that the sport should carry itself without the need of additional factors but if the league is failing this badly, why reject a good idea? Women dominate the fashion market and having the players wear high fashion and do shows between seasons would keep female attention on them.
Crazy that this is happening now.. the money is being made, games getting sold out, views on tv gone up.. but a lot of hate going on!,
That’s cause one player made that all that possible for them😂
For there league being in debt for over 20 years an never making any profit in its entire existence im shocked that they are even getting paid anything....
Ummm they want revenue sharing on NEGATIVE income?!? Lmaoo the nba subsidizes them, which means if the nba stops paying to keep them afloat, they won’t even have the wnba 😂
Bro you got a ton of views on this video! Keep grinding man, we'll figure out the algorithm sooner than later....one constructive point i want to give you which i think will increase the amount of people that subscribe, is speak just a tad bit less. Maybe 10-15% less or just rearrange when you choose in to speak.... Give us more time to review the content with you and then we can discuss it more in depth at one time after we've all digested what's being said. You could write everything out you have to say and just follow a light script that keeps your conversation moving forward. The content was great, relevant to societal issues in modern time, and your points are spot on. As someone who is consuming your content I just want to give you my honest thoughts and opinions to help you improve...
Thank you for the feedback and I appreciate you for taking the time to invest in my content. I will implement this feedback in future videos. ✊🏾
Imagine working for a company that loses 10 million a year and expecting to get equal pay any other company wouldn’t be in business that’s reality the NBA pays for the league
To touch on the "lower the rims" thing. What do they have to lose? They already say they don't get the respect so fuck it, lets experiment.
Remember when the NBA had that dumbass ball that the players didn't like? They tried to improve the ball and players hated it so they changed back... If that ball had improved guys' shooting and made it easier to control, players would have loved it and it would have been the new norm. My point is that sometimes you gotta throw shit at the wall and see what sticks. Lower the rims for a season, let everyone know, and see if the league's revenue improves. If it doesn't, raise them bitches back up and try the next thing.
The reason the current w players don’t want the rim lower is because they’re still not athletic enough to dunk ,the young w players and ncaa players would be able to dunk and take over the game and move the old relic bulldaggers out the w another reason it’s failing is because they don’t cater to their real audience I.e.
lil girls they don’t promote products that girls wear like cover girl ,swimsuits ,lip gloss ,wigs ect. they don’t want to be feminine for some reason JUST lower the rims make the uniforms tighter and shorter and let the young girls ball out they would start making way more money but they still doing things like it’s 1996 and it sucks ncaa it’s way better then the w in 2024
Facts bro ✊🏾
They should do out of the blue fast breaks. Practice offence in the first half of practice then practice defence in the second half
If the Nba had some balls they would tell the Wnba to lower the rims or they will cut ties. Any pro who can shoot would be able ajust quickly. Hand eye coordination!
And to think, there are people out there think lowering the rim is a bad idea.
Lowering of the rim does not mess with your shot. We play on lower rims all the time. So, we can dunk and throw alley oops. Then when we play back on regular size rims. It has no effect on our shots. So, they use that as a bullshit ass excuse.
Man you came to preach on a Monday
Here's the best statements I can say.
NBA revenue approximately 10 Billion. WNBA approximately 60 Million.
To give a perspective on the difference between a million and a billion, here's this:
A million seconds is 12 days.
A billion seconds is 31 years.
I like your take. It's just straightforward facts. I agree with you.
Thank you for watching my friend ✊🏾
Not playing basketball to dunk if the opportunity is naturally there to dunk or layup on a fast break or half court offence then do that
The funny thing is that when they go to gyms for open run, go to the park and play or just when they play with NBA players in pick up games…they play with the mans ball, same three point line as men and same hight rim and they never had to learn how to shoot with a man’s ball or from the NBA three point line…
In a conversation whenever i exchange ideas and thoughts about any subject, and the person that im having a conversation with is constantly using the word "like", i automatically shut the person down because it shows that they cant even organize their own thoughts. Conversation over.
This lady is taking the childish road. Just like a child who says, I can do just leave me alone. Then they get frustrated and stomp around. This is the stage the lady is stuck at right now. Which will be followed by, ok you figure it out then. Then when you fix it, you get all the excuses. Well I could have done that. Along with, why didn’t you just show me that before. Not to be forgotten, I guess that will work.
Tbh , I don’t think I have EVER seen a WNBA jersey being worn in public . Not even being funny but have yall?
I’ve never even thought about that 😂 I guess that his to show that it doesn’t happen.
The PWHL (professional women's hockey league) started up this year and its been pretty entertaining to watch, the girls are able to get physical and they average about 5k people in the stadiums which is 2k more people than the worst teams wnba attendance from 2022. The PWHL also had a record attendance of 19k fans at one game in the regular season which isn't even finished yet. Based on the sports popularity in the US the best PWHL team should be the only one anywhere close or slightly ahead of the worst wnba team but the worst wnba team is only beating 2 PWHL teams in average attendance
1000% on point!!!
it’s crazy that she doesn’t want men to discuss there sport when it’s wnba players igniting the conversation with the salary comparisons that causes male spaces to react in content
She wants them to discuss but only if they’re on her side 100%.
Wait a minute every NBA game I see multiple players dunking all the time.
She showing how twisted she got it. It doesn’t matter if you play good hoop, bad hoop, mid hoop. Do ppl wanna watch? That’s all that matters.
She wanna be rewarded for playing good hoop, but the reward is for getting ppl to tune in, buy your merch, and care about the product. Ppl tune in to watch the Wizards play and they haven’t played good basketball in a decade. Mcants and her just had that father daughter talk 😂. She fine as hell tho so im rockin w/ her. Would rather watch her IG than her game on the court tho lol
WNBA already is down to only 12 teams right? Pretty soon its all gonna be gone cause of attitudes like Lexi...
If the league is losing money and being subsidized by the NBA there isn’t any revenue ( profit) to share ! The WNBA needs to make money before they consider sharing any
A dog food company spent millions on advertising to get people to buy the dog food. They bought it once because the dogs didnt eat the dog food. Doesnt matter how much you promote something if the consumer doesnt like the product.
The WNBA players walk around like they are super stars and have accomplished something but no one wants to even deal with them or work with them and in top of that the game isn’t good
I love the amount of people who actually think this has ANYTHING to do with basketball
Tell us what it’s all about.
You’re speaking my thoughts, exactly
Gilbert to take on women’s college basketball not allowing players to come in early as a fallacy. It’s that there hasn’t been a big enough to generate that kind of interest for her to leave early with the NL. She’s probably more in college right now that she wouldn’t be. Which is good. The Kaitlyn Clark phenomenon will change the way that looked at at this point. but players coming in early isn’t stifling anyone’s creating better basketball players who come in and stay.
It’s not a fallacy. He’s saying to build the league around hype and enable players the opportunity the same way the NBA does. If players start excelling early in college and build their hype, they can be pipelined into the league, train for a few years and remain explosive.
The league is 28 years old but the athletes are 10.
Give them the revenue share of -$10MM, I bet they'll be happy with their salary now lol. Demanding more money from a company you're losing money for is wild
Equal pay for equal work. In the terms of basketball professional leagues. It’s not just the playing. That is the work, but bringing in the viewers and making it interesting and profitable. That’s why the men are getting paid more. It’s not equal work one. If the women’s league wants to make more money, then get more butts in the seats. Stop demanding the world to revolve around you. Professional
Sports is not just about that the game it’s self it’s the hype is the enthusiasm the fun it generates the entirety of the organism. You can be very talented at your sport. That doesn’t mean you can build a league and make that big profitable. It doesn’t just rest on your skills alone. Whether that’s right or wrong morally or in your heart that’s just how it works.
21:00 he layed that out in a good way. But I would have liked him to say this aswell:
"Will somebody that criticises your product be in the stadium or watch on TV every game?" NO. "Will somebody that is in the stadium or watches on TV every game criticise your product?" NO. "Will somebody that has no interest in watching your product period, never even watches the NBA criticise your product?" No.....
So who do you need to actually listen to if the goal is to grow your product?!.
Obviously number 1. He/She criticises but you could make them watch cause they already put time into thinking about and criticising you. Number 2 already watches... you can not get more from them. And number 3 (most of them are prolly female activists)...no matter what you do...they won't watch
Good points ✊🏾
@@IamGoldenboi I corrected the grammar somewhat cause it was a horrible text. But this is part of what they need to understand. Nobody gives a F about their fans. They are not enough period
It should be up to the owners whether or not to lower the rim. The 3 point line is closer, the ball is smaller so why not lower the rim. You don’t shoot at the height of the rim you shoot at the rim regardless of where it’s at
The WNBA players need to put pressure on the owners.