Dialogue With Sujit Nair | Can EVM Machines Be Tampered? | Madhav Deshpande
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- In this episode of “Dialogue”, Mr. Sujit Nair engages in a conversation with Madhav Deshpande, a former CEO of Tulip Software and a former Consultant to the Obama Administration in the United States and discusses about the Electronic Voting Machines used in India for elections of both assembly and Lok Sabha elections. Mr. Deshpande answers to several question whether EVMs can be hacked or manipulated as claimed by many leaders.
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"Opinions expressed in this interview are solely those of the participants involved and do not necessarily reflect the views of the channel or its affiliates."
My experience in electronics for the past 60 years and keeping up with new technologies and my experience of being a victim of tampering tells me one thing....all man made programs and software can be tampered with absolutely no issues and buts. NOTHING is safe. I have faced it.
if that true, then when the CJI, prez, governors and MEDIA are aware of all such malign happenings can take place in these evms...why did they allow that in the past two elections....
that mean they are supporting corruption...
very very sad that they are NOT for the common people of our country... Shame on them ....
the poor are not aware of all such happenings
संदेह का संभावित कारण इसका कार्यक्रम है, न कि EVM। अत: VVPAT मतदान पर्चियों की 100 % गिनती की जाये जिसे सभी मतदाताओं ने देखा एवं सत्यापित किया हो। EVM के आंतरिक वोट किसी भी मतदाता को दिखाई ही नहीं देते, इसलिए इसकी गिनती का कोई मतलब नहीं है।
Thanks Mr.Deshpande for giving right information. Supreme court CJI should immediately act and boycott EVM and printed vote should be counted. Indian Secular democracy should have transparency in everything.
We shud also ban toilets and ask everyone to go back to jungle ....
We must trust EVMs, counting of printed votes is like the old method of ballot papers. Defeated political parties used to bark against EVMs, mainly after 2014.
Not only the opposition members but as the people of all Indians should come forward on the ground to oppose them .
Supreme court should interrupt immediately and Ban EVM.
Adani Ambani gangsters gave crore to buy harbour,airport, petroleum diesel ,medicine manufacturing rights,Solar power, agricultural lands by killing farmersand also thes bjp Mafia sending terrorists to rape and kill manipur tribal people because the so call castism bjp sold manipur to ambani to start new business head.thats why BJP government planned made their own ED. ED contains only RSS members.
It was already decided in Supreme Court my boy, verification test etc , done also and decided to go for EVM The question whether it can be tampered is different, obe should have access and secretly done , is it really possible to do ? One should think and talk nonsense like opposition, who lost election So don't be silly in making statements publicly. Sorry man.
Sir 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Very easy to say can not be tampered? Why bjp men sitting in BEL?
For any doubts about evm and its functionality see the video. Indian made EVMS Are the best out there. Along with randomization process and vvpats . This video is by the guys who sit on EC panel czcams.com/video/E0ORLvgM8ro/video.htmlsi=3YF19G9w4TZhTmQw
Save India, save South, stop EVM
@@skarr7985 Is it because DMK is winning? 😂
Evm hatao bjp 500 paar karao
why. are. they. Insisting. on. E. V. M. by. the. official.
Exactly
@@padmaganesh891, exactly, this is the reason Indian citizens want integrity of EVMs upheld and serve citizens not parties.
Thanks so much to Sujith and Deshpande for the excellent presentation. With so much clarity why is it that the Opposition leaders are not taking it up with the Election Commissioner to convince them how there can be misuse of these EVM machines. We have serious suspicion and mistrust since the last 10 years and so we just want the EVM machines to be banned. We already had another person namely Subramanian Swamy the very own BJP MP who had serious doubt about the role of these EVM machines long back. In all we want the EVM machines banned forever. Jai Hind !
Certainly I do agree with you. When election comes so many people suddenly come out with so much of doubts & dialogues. But what all they did so far? Many years they forgot to take it up and/or fight for if the EVMs are not dependable.
Opposition failed miserably by not protesting on grand scale on very important issues including evm.
These political parties will doom India and we are going to remain forever as developing country.
if that true, then when the CJI, prez, governors and MEDIA are aware of all such malign happenings can take place in these evms...why did they allow that in the past two elections....
that mean they are supporting corruption...
very very sad that they are NOT for the common people of our country... Shame on them ....
the poor are not aware of all such happenings
💯 EVM can be manipulated 💯
Yes
Moron, SC has cleared EVMs. There is no manipulation involved. You have been brainwashed by this channel.
Thanks a million Sujit sir for the EVMs functioning topic.
Why are we still Accepting This Form of Voting when we know our Votes will not go to the Party we voted for. We need a Revolution against the EVMs and we can wait until a proper system is designed for Fair and Free Election. THIS IS THE NEED OF THE HOUR OR FORGET VOTING.
Bro only one advice .. until they dont do free and Fair Election and you are not Confident pls dont vote ... 😂😂😂
Woh konsi MAGIC hey jo wahi EVM se jab KARNATAKA, TELANGANA,DELHI, PUNJAB jeeth jathe hey..Tabh tho..!
SUJITH jaise CONgressi CHAPLUS PATHRAKAR ki Muh se EVM ki ( E )tak nahi nikalti..😂
@@brishnevk4823this is not a joke this is the government you and I are allowing us to be ruled and managed
@@mathewvijai1713 No bro I am serious .. when you don't have confidence of Winning through EVM and you believe EC controlled by Modi Govt why are wasting your Vote and Time ?? 😜😂🤣
But I have Full confidence in my system and I will vote ...
We want ballot system respect your people's feelings
Liars tea man and tadipar will grab your votes anyway.. their experts in snatching..that's they're DNA ..they don't want public consent...
Why SC is not hearing this issue and agreeing to commonsense demand to give vvpad slip in hand and voter will put it in box or back to ballot paper, I fail to understand. SC is no more supreme and independent
The Idea that a VVPAT Slip should be given to the voter and it should be dropped in the separate Sealed Box and the slips thereafter should be counted from there. IF WE CAN WAIT FOR 5 YRS And 2.5 Months for the Counting We can easily wait for Additional 1 or 3 Weeks more Accurate Counting. SC Court may be an Expert Adminstrative Body But It CANNOT IGNORE THE FACT THAT SINCE EVMs is NOT THEIR SUBJECT MATTER. PLEASE ARRANGE ALL TECNICAL EXPERTS BETTER THAN THE EC Who is HELL BENT NOT TO TAKE UP THE ISSUE. WHOM IS HE SERVING PUBLIC OR PARTIES.
Yes Bro ... Supreme Court is taken over by Opposition thats why they questioned Govt on Electoral Bond 😂😂😂
Election bonditselfil illegitimate.@@brishnevk4823
Do you take your vote sheet after you vote. They are not given to you isn't it . VVPAT is for counter checking with machine figures. At every stage representatives of parties are shown what is being done.
Tally it and you get correct numbers.
Hope they do it
Only GOD can save my mother land from these corrupt politicians.
Which god? Save India from the gandhi family.
Like to understand why the opposition is not able to make this claim and stop evm.
Election commission is corrupted and it is in the hands of ruling party.
Shameless people can go upto any extent ! Anything possible for corrupted soul !
congress Pappu and Italian mummy are Out on Bail in the Rs 5,000 Crores National Herald Scam and you are giving Gyaan on corrupted soul ?? Matlab kuch bhi 😉😂🤡
Since they are not afraid of any allegations made by any political parties they will continue to do what they have in their mind. Don't know how the opposition parties going to tackle this big issue.
@@napoleonjoseph7308 simple bro .. pls dont vote any way opposition is going to lose 😂😂😂
@@napoleonjoseph7308 opposition needs to Stop their Corruption, simple.
Like Obama did in the USA. He us a confirmed CROOK !
Bring back Paper Ballot immediately
Probably. That is why all the major democracies got rid of EVMs and went to paper ballot. India is likely the only democracy that uses EVM machines. Scanners are as fast or faster than EVMs these days and they are much cheaper
You still call India a democracy 😂… you are a very brave optimist n hard core nationalist
We have a very large number of voters, don't compare with other democracies.
Ballot paper is History now. Updating of EVMs to precision is the only solution.
@@rajendradhavalikar1388We can not believe anything under Modi regime, the absolute corrupt person who rules India.
@@redindianaztec6768 Point taken.
There are some corrupt countries in Latin America that still use EVMs in their government Elections..
In every Indian language this interview must be aired
The Greatest Show on Earth, The Indian Elections, is not on Safe Hands !
Yes bro ... Thats why dont vote this time ..any way opposition will lose because or evm 😂😂
@brishnevk4823
Idiot!
Not IN safe hands.... Atleast write English correctly... I know that you don't vote correctly😂
Ask MLA from Karnataka Punjab and Himachal to resign in protest
@graphiota18
Here is a r33king grammar police slav3!
Japan manufacturer of evms too don't use for their own use
Yes every electronic, software based machines can surely be manipulated.
How they are not connected by internet or any area network
How can every unit of machine can be individually hacked
When mock drill is done with every candidate presented there
@@islamimulhid2432they can hack software that's why many countries return to ballet paper
@@islamimulhid2432 you can install such software which will automatically change as per the programmed software. Fir example how come your lap top without Internet prompt you, change date, time automatically...?
Try to find out how the source code for evms is done. If you know this you will not talk about evm hacking.
Some people say that foreign countries don't use evms .US has DRE with VVPATs which is similar to our evms . Some foreign countries procured evms from other countries .
Google "Electronic voting by country .", You will get information on how many countries tried using evms.
The CJI and ECI must listen to these Engineers regarding use of EVM in Elections.
Need ballot paper in hand voter, this fair election, 🙏
The programme of VVPACK should be made public.
VVPAT : Voter Verifiable Audit Trail.
Please BAN EVM
So many thank to Mr.Deshpande for the today's topics discussion about the EVM machine 's good and bad effects in the today's election system . Long live.May God help you .Hori OM.
I do not understand how the SC can vouch for the integrity of the equipments and of the personnel.
Public must decide we cannot vote in evm all opposite parties knows very well why allowing no justice
The only solution is to print the vote and put it in the ballot box, and that shud be counted
We true tamilians are against EVM voting.
I'm one of representative of a political party and under gone in ECI program of FLC (first level check ). I too agree that VVPAT can respond differently to CU. Election results should be declared on the counting of VVPAT slips.
Excellent dialogue. When the election commission says it's open source then why not make it public. But again even if the source code is made public we would not be sure that it's the same software. They can release a changed code
Solution is, let the voter gets the slip and put in another box and that must be verified.
EC should respond to the plea of this . Democracy is definitely at stake. What is keeping them use of ballots ?
Explained beautifully by Mr Deshpande!
Requesting help from Supreme Court , Ed’s , ECI and media in India is just hopeless 😞
VVPAT should also be counted too. And it has to tally with the result obtained from the Control Unit.
ECI has to come out with a mechanism to ensure and secure the confidence of the voters in free and fair election.
This EVM issue tells one thing very clearly.. Opposition knows they are going to lose this election 😂😂😂
CJI and his senior bench should REMAIN DEDICATED for the interest of the common man and not any pm.
Paper ballot is essential... and
Besides senior police force, strict ARMY personnel should be on duty in several states... during voting periods of time. .
Why this govt. Authorities are ignoring the FLAWS of EVM's that Somany irregulaties happenning 😢 . Proper way of ballet paper voting is only the way proper.
Beautifully explained the TAMPERING of EVM, THANKYOU VERY MUCH SIR,
EVM machines were introduced at tge time of Indira Gandhi. And now they 1:28 are protesting against these EVM machine
2004,2009 lok sabha election fine.where you won in state fine.but when you lose EVM is manipulated.you can not change the truth.
All are valid points
Very important discussion, thank you 🙏
Counting of votes should be done on the basis of printed VVPAT slips rather than from the control unit.
That's the only way to lay rest all the doubts
2:55 It was said that Indian EVM can be hacked specially after the introduction of vvpat. it should be Indian EVM can be manipulated instead of “hacked” specially after the VVPAT. Regret the error
Mr.Madhav,you need to write to other authorities as well.
You have to demonstrate that even if the VVPAT shows correct output,there can be a cross check if the datata saved is incorrect
There is law to be implemented by the EC where the VVPAD print to be cross verified with Voting machine. This will ensure there is no manipulation. Also voters to check the printout which is coming from VVPAD. Like this many VVPADs are caught eg. In Kerala
Please get some statistics primer lessons. The sample size is different from the error rate.
Based on Electrol Bonds ,if modi and co convicted,it will be the greatest democracy of INDIA
Sir once the Result is declared there is no way you can go for a review. It has never happened and it will never happen. Plz block or stop this system before its TOO LATE. EC should not be Allowed to play Spoil Sport to Favor A Few.
One day if we found that the evms were manipulated in 2019 or 2024 or any other election, what will be SC done? Will the responsible officers be punished under law of Deshdroh.
Most of the countries of the world have discarded the use of EVM'S for voting.The citizens want to go for voting by paper ballot,but the ones who are supposed to adhere to the people's choice are protecting the EVM's. Even the BJP who were against the use of EVM'S when in opposition are not showing any interest to reintroduce paper ballot.
We need ballot papers..
Abe chutia mobile can be hacked so stop using phone ,atm
I worked as po.we used to as testing the evms,vote 20 votes to different candidates .The result was perfect.Another thing is the evm is securely sealed with all the tapes supplied and attested by both and the APO.So it's not possible to replace the evm with another as the signatures of the officers cannot be ignored.
Modi's all actions stems from his confidence to manipulate EVM and keep SC ECI under his control 😢.
Then ask.the scamgress to.dissolev the karnataka himachal pradesh and telangana assembly
Ban EVM and vvpat altogether immediately
Sir it's very Important topic, one should understand.
We are opposing EVM .
By evm is done deal to modi win, nobody can stop evm
No wonder he's saying "abki baar 400 paar"😀
All over the world voting is by ballots, all advance countries use it why only in India EVM?
Beautifully explained....... beyond all doubts !
As rightly summed up by the interviewer in the end of this interview, it is a real pleasure for it's viewers as well to watch it.Though a good number of voters are suspicious about the EVMs, what is within our control is to create this kind of awareness among the voters. Why because the sanctity of our democracy as the public often think, doesn't primarily rest on either the politicians or those in power for that matter. Invariably our voters must be educated & empowered which is the only way to strengthen our democracy & safeguard it from the present political quagmires.
Last but not the least, my sincere thanks to both messrs madhav deshpande for his elaborate presentation giving all the pros & cons & sujith nair for making such a fruitful interview especially on an electoral perspective possible. Let us hope the world's largest Democracy will have the last laugh. 💪🙏
The real issue is that the SC is 100% committed to the electronic system and not willing to entertian any doubts. So all these discussions are academic
SC knows more about evms than those who talk from outside without knowing how the system works
You have worked wonderfully and so extensively, to suggest possible checks and methods to prevent poll tamering... But the truth is tampering is not so complicated, they dont have to lose sleep if someone wants to tamper poll results
That is the reason we needs appointments of Election Commissioner with integrity and by a committee comprising CJI, PM & Opposition leader and govt majority committee
Election Commissioners shld not be chosen by the ruling govt...They shld be chosen by a separate panel which is honest,unbiased n totally sincere to the interest of the people n the country
nobody on earth can tell if EVMS are hacked? because ECI is not ready to show the contents of this box
There should be a feedback sheet that the polling officer shall use to collect the feedback from every electorate who has voted. This feedback should record the fact that "if they have seen the VVPAT printing the same symbol of the button they pressed for" and "if they saw the VVPAT actually got dropped into the ballot box". The scanned copy of this feedback sheet should be uploaded at the end of the polling day by the polling officer.
ECI wont admit anything amiss in EVM
Yes, it has hampered
We can not rely the EVM now, with the comments of the experts.
If counting VVPAT and matching with EVM can resolve the long discussed issue. My opinion is that, it should be done. There are many unemployed youth in this country. Engage them and get the counting of VVPAT machine done. They will be rewarded for their work. At the same time ECI can regain the trust of Indians.
Forget about tapering or tampering,search for the 22 lakh EVM machines .
To address the EVM issue forever,all the VVPAT slips should be counted and also the EVM’s numbers.If the result is same then it can be assured that EVM’s are 100 percent perfect
One of the best discussions, a issue addressed, all it's faws analysed.
And the best part what can be done at the current scenario staying within those limitations.
Clear cut discussion, well done
As the Experts say that it is not safe why ECI propose it. So Let us say No to EVM and Yes to Ball ot paper System.
Vvpat is very cleverly designed lol 😅😂
Who ever made it deserves Nobel prize!
Too early to learn about EVM thankyou for hour interest . How aware we have been about system.Hacking or Tampering.❤
Excellent interview
Good reporting
Pls put CCTV for each candidate...then we can compare .
In this election people's votes are not required it will be done by EVMS
That is why Assam CM said this election is just carried out as formality!if evm is not ban they know BJP is sure to win!
The only way is that opposition also must try to heck or manipulate this evm!
Sir please Ban EVM machine Better start Balet paper to save our Indian Democracy 💯👌👌🙏🙏
What kind of question, Nair? Each n every machine can be manipulated. Our conscience is the only way to prevent corruption. There is a lack of it in the body poolity.
I will go with what Congress leader suggested, that the print output should be directly taken by the voter and put in the box.🤔, when an EVM is set through internet the data too can be manipulated after election 🤔
What would you store at the Strong Room?
There is no smoke without fire
संदेह का संभावित कारण इसका कार्यक्रम है, न कि EVM। अत: VVPAT मतदान पर्चियों की 100 % गिनती की जाये जिसे सभी मतदाताओं ने देखा एवं सत्यापित किया हो। EVM के आंतरिक वोट किसी भी मतदाता को दिखाई ही नहीं देते, इसलिए इसकी गिनती का कोई मतलब नहीं है।
Stop EVM machines pls at time of voting. I pray to god to Save mother land of India from corruption and the democracy of people living in India. ❤
Very informative video. Thanks for bringing to public notice.
ANYTHING POSSIBLE.
THERE IS NO LIMIT
Absolutely it can Tampered....Only if we can get a PRINTED SLIP Like The ATM Machine..
Systems can be improved but to discard will bring chaos as seen over the years during ballot paper votings.
Doubt clarified thank you. Im 100% sure EVM Manipulation at its height by BJP
Great interview with great minds
I'll believe EVMs can be tampered by VVPAT the day my printer edits my word document
EVMs can be manipulated, but no one is there to manipulate ar any cost.
Very informative...
the irony is the opposition win states with EVM and are happy, but the moment they lose in other they cry foul. Then, if they are serious, they should not accept the win!
It is like Murphy's Law. If there is possibility of tampering; the trust of voters is at stake. In such scenario, the ECI should take all necessary steps to restore that trust and goodwill.
When I caste my vote by pressing the designated button, let the signal go simultaneously to EVM to print & control unit through 2 separate wiring.
Pegasus used people should not say that electronic voting machines are not hackable because our mobiles are electronic ones & hacked by Pegasus.
if that true, then when the CJI, prez, governors and MEDIA are aware of all such malign happenings can take place in these evms...why did they allow that in the past two elections....
that mean they are supporting corruption...
very very sad that they are NOT for the common people of our country... Shame on them ....
the poor are not aware of all such happenings
Actually Modi got second term because of the EVM
Please supreme court no EVM machine....
Yes
Even in 2002 Gujarat state election he won with manipulation of EVMs. Kutch region is classic example where a contesting candidates vote is not in his favour.
It is not 2019, and it is going on since 2002.
How INC came into power in Karnataka? Didn't they use EVM?
@@madhavadaskoodallur2115 outdated and discarded argument. Repeating the same is not going to help EVM manipulation.
ADR affidavit answered all these stupid arguments in SC.
Those who are saying this again and again better read the affidavit filed in SC by ADR
I don't favour any political party. To me, whoever does good for general public, I will be with them. With respect to EVM, I don't understand the logic behind anyone saying as follows:- If BJP wins, it is due to EVM manipulation; what if a non-BJP candidate wins using the same EVM. To understand EVMs are perfect, this example quoted is more than enough. Would anyone stop booth capturing while pointing finger at EVMs just like that. If someone is anti- BJP, one can express that, there is no need to put the blame on EVM. Please check this URL before coming to conclusions. pib.gov.in/newsite/printrelease.aspx?relid=160754.
Are design/development teams/engineers in BEL/ECIL don't think of manipulation/hacking during development? Secondly, the firmware is made in such a way that it can be written only once. Think.
ज़ीरो फ़ूड" में भारत दुनिया में नंबर 1. मैशेबल इंडिया आर्टिकल
देश में हर दिन 67 लाख बच्चे सोते हैं भूखे!!
दूसरे स्थान पर नाइजीरिया है 9.7 लाख बच्चे!
तीसरे स्थान पर 8.5 लाख बच्चों के साथ पाकिस्तान है
और दूसरी तरफ पार्टियां चुनावी बांड के पैसे से मालामाल हो रही हैं।
सर हमें इस तरफ भी कुछ ध्यान देना चाहिए
Well explained by Desh Pandey ji