Just got a 2020 F150. Got it with the 3.3L, for what I need it has plenty of power. Not loading more than 1000lbs and never pull any trailer. Plus, no worries about the problems they had with the EcoBoost. Most people wanting the EcoBoost want it for the wrong reasons, they are thinking they have a race truck and act that way.
@Name` Da'jew thanks for your advice simpleton, but I alone know what I need the truck for. You didn't need to respond to my comment concerning the vid either, did you?
Just purchased a brand new XL with the 3.3L, very happy I didn't go turbo, less issues, and in reality I knew mileage would come out less. I barely bought the truck, every Ford dealer I went to all looked at me funny when I said " Give the most striped down, rubber floor and vinyl seat, non EcoBoost, Supercab." Found one closely optioned to what I want, but I think sticker had about 3 options total, not bad. Only truck on 4 lots like that, the sales manager had to look hard for it, as everybody wants a soccer mom truck. 🤣
This is exactly what I have been looking for. Almost 16 years ago I was on the same hunt when I found my base model F250 with rubber floors and seats and no power options. Still have it, it's just rusting really bad.
Yes, Its kinda funny how the dealers have 100s of the same trucks (in 4 variants) all over their lots. You want something different, you need to hunt for that one dealer in your area that orders some different vehicles. I had to drive from Austin to go down to Jordan Ford in San Antonio, ending up getting a fair deal too on my new 2019!
I was on the fence between the 3.3 and the 2.7EB as well. I test drove both and ended up going with the 2.7, the 3.3 felt like kind of a slug by comparison. It’s only a 35hp difference between the two engines but it seemed like a much wider gap after driving them both. Plus, I’m averaging about 23 mpg out of the EB. Got a lifetime warranty from the dealership I bought it from, so I’m not sweating the extra complexity of the 2.7 too bad.
I have a 2.7 with the 10speed. I had a 2017 Silverado with 5.3 and 6 speed. The 2.7 and 10 speed is way smooth and feels way more natural than the cylinder deactivation and 6 speed. I really think 2.7 is the truck to buy, get a stx with sync 3 and then you can upgrade to leather and whatever else you want.
My 17 2.7 Ecoboost 4wd Super Crew has gotten around town 20.4 hand Calculate pretty much from day 1. I admit I’m a grandpa and pretty easy on the gas pedal, I let my son borrow it for a few days and mileage dropped to indicated 18.2. Wife also kill gas mileage when she drive it, truck loves Poppy and I love it! Never liked a vehicle more, but often wondered if I’d been just fine with the 3.3, but leaving them big V8’s at the red light is so much fun!!!
"them big v8s" probably have triple the mileage and double the years your truck ever will achieve, they'll laugh as they pass you broken down on the road.
@@bldontmatter5319Bull shit, I’ll argue you’ll get more mileage out of the low reving built like a diesel 2.7 Ecoboost compared to the high reving Coyote, go to Auto Trader and see how many 200k+ 2.7 powered F150’s you see. If you keep a vehicle longer than that probably need get a better paying job or make your child support payments up to date.
I do about 20 MPG with my 2.7 Ecoboost in winter. Maybe if you have a heavy foot, you would have less MPGs that with the 3.3, but that's not enough for me to opt for a less powerful engine. My father has the 3.5 base engine that was available in 2015, and the difference between his truck and mine is very clear. I love the power of the 2.7 Ecoboost and I think it's worth it to get maybe a little bit less MPG to get a truck that is very responsive. When I was driving my father's truck, I was sometimes getting very upset when I wanted to pass other cars and the engine didn't respond. Even on Sport Mode, I didn't really feel the difference. But now that I'm driving my 2.7, it's a totally different world, where I don't always stay on Sport mode because that engine on Sport mode is so agressive that it becomes annoying to drive as the gas pedal becomes extremely sensible. Another factor is the torque. When I was driving the 3.5 base engine on cruise control at 75 MPH on the highway, it had to downshift for every hill to climb, while my 2.7 downshifts very rarely.
I agree the power difference and capability between these 2 engines is extremely different. If I only owned one truck- it would certainly be one of the more powerful F150 engines than the base. But I have a 3.5EB and a 5.7L hemi in my other 2 trucks, so this particular truck I bought was for economy in both purchase price and overall fuel economy. Update- Since this video was purchased I have sold that truck after 22k miles, and last month I purchased a 2019 F150 XL Reg Cab w 3.3 non turbo. Any comments bout the 10 speed?
It doesn't downshift, because that tiny engine is getting blown to bits LOL. Good thing you don't value what you buy because that truck will be dead in 10 years tops
the 3.3 is 290 hp. that's 15 hp more than my 1995 camaro z28 lt1 engine. i agree if your towing a 3000 lb trailer the base is the way to go. and the msrp usually thousands less. and no turbo failure anxiety.
I agree with him about the turbo failure. This is why we need to go back to carburetors as well, no fuel injection failure. We also need to get rid of coil packs over cylinders and go back to distributors. We also need to replace our computers with calculators, bic pens and notebook paper, or manual push button type writers, and get rid of washing machines and use the old school crank clothes washers with rollers... they are all more reliable. We should never advance forward in anything and technology should stand still... heck yeah... thats the way to go!
Use eco mode in the 2.7 it really makes a huge difference in the throttle response which keeps you out of it. Awkwardly enough the wet/snow mode does an even better job. It makes the truck feel like a N/A if you’re that concerned with it.
There’s an old saying, use the right tool for the job. I had a 2.7. Excellent motor, very good design. It’s been dual injection since 2018. It was with a 4x4 super crew F150 302a 2019. But I realized I almost never used the back seats, never used 4x4, and hardly tow anything. Only really tow my 2600 lbs pontoon boat a few hours drive here and there. So with that, I got sick of the high payment and looked to downgrade. I now have a 2021 F150 regular cab 2wd long bed 101a high. The bed is very useful. The 3.3 is the right tool (engine) for this truck. Very acceptable acceleration, and pulls my pontoon at an acceptable speed too. The 10 speed shifts vastly improved with the new truck compared to my 19. Though some have said their super crew 4x4 3.3 is fine, I wouldn’t want that heavy of a truck with the 3.3. But for a regular cab truck it’s very ideal, especially if you don’t tow a lot. With my 2.7 I had to use premium to get good mileage. But with the 3.3 I use 87 octane and get 22-23 mpg average mostly not highway.
@@6.0charleston843 the transmission is that 10 speed has nothing to do with the engine. I would probably buy the 3.3 to get the 6 speed. Why ford developed a transmission with gm is beyond me. Gm is junk
I've been looking at a 2022 with the 3.3. I thought I'd need an Ecoboost, but I also have a 12 valve. And I doubt I'd ever tow much more then 6k with a half ton anyways. But going across country and touring the island, I think the 3.3 is a good choice for me. I currently have a 2020 Hyundai Ioniq EV. You want to talk about slow? My electric car is slow. It's very efficient however. And I'm not built for speed. I've never had the need to tear out of a stop light as fast as I could. I'm strongly considering the 3.3 due to it's simplicity as well. Mechanics really love them because there so damn easy to work on. The flex fuel thing doesn't really work out here in Canada, but I can see some appeal to it if you live in a corn state and can access E85. But there's only like 4 stations in Canada that serve E85. And I'm pretty sure there all in B.C. I could be wrong on that though. But the flex fuel thing is a nice thought.
2018 STX Supercrew 2.7 2wd owner here. I wanted an STX but you can only get it in V8 or EB. My self control on the foot is really good, as well as my swap to Eco mode, so no complaints about MPG's or wanting to gun it (except once every blue moon), and no complaints about my 10 speed shifting or problems. I do not tow anything so I'm hoping that boosts (no pun intended) the life of my truck Although I love my 2.7 and believe I made a great choice, but I know that I would've been happy with the 3.3 like yours, keep us posted!!
You will burn some gas when you first get a 2.7. After some time with this engine. You will learn how to stay out of it. I drove my 2016 F165 driving for Lyft for one year. I learned to get 19 mpg in the city.
I have a 2018 2.7L F-150 and I can honestly say my foot has never bottomed out the pedal, at most 3/4 of full throttle. I live in a very busy town and get 19 MPG’s in city and 24 on Highway at 75 MPG’s with an oversized cap. For me, the 2.7L is the best of both world’s, economy and power when needed. The 2.7L is a beast. The 3.0L eco boost is based on the 2.7L. I truly believe the 3.3L has its place in the market. 290 HP and 260 lbs of torque is plenty of power for a work truck and towing 5,000 lbs. Peace
Just traded in my 2018 with a 3.3 on a 2022 with 2.7. The 3.3 is a great engine but cant compare to the 2.7. First 100 mile trip it averaged 26.5 mpg in eco mode. Next trip I drove it over a 10,000 ft. elevation mountain mountain and it never shifted below 7th gear. Did a lot of studying before buying this truck. Think it's a better built engine than the 3.5 and for me the right choice.
almost halfway into 2023 has Ford fixed any and all issues with the 10 speed automatic transmission ??? ... because number one this is EXACTLY why you NEVER get the first year of ANY automobile ... at MINIMUM you wait until the 2nd year ... but after 5 years I'm assuming they FIXED everything ???
Thanks for the video. Still on the fence between the 2.7 and the 3.3. Really hoping someone will do a mileage test in each with 1000 lbs in the bed. What I would consider a normal contractor load.
Get the 2.7 I never get below 19-20mpg and it’s a rocket. I live in a ruralish area and do mix of around town and highway. If I stay around 60 on the highway I get 24-25 and 21-22 at 75+. 355 rear end
I agree, get the 2.7L. This video poster clearly doesn't know what self control is. When you drive normal, you get great gas mileage. When you need to get up and move (say merging into traffic on freeway) it can move out like a rocket. Best of all worlds. Plus the resale value of the 2.7L is far higher than a 3.3L. Ford even says they sell more 2.7L by far than any other motor. Its the most popular.
@@snipert6841 Yea that's not realistic out here in west Tx 🤣. Speed limits around here are 80mph. People drive 5-10 over. If your going 60 thats a good way for someone to come rear end you
I have a 17 2.7 but thinking of getting an 18 3.3. Mainly because I got a regular cab and want to get a back seat... and they got them on sale for $23,500, (low as 21k if military and/or student.) which is insanely low.
I agree that it’s hard to get good gas mileage with the 2.7. I don’t drive like a maniac, but there’s some normal situations where the turbos kick on and the gas tank just drains super quick
If I drive like a grandpa I get 17-18 city 24-26 hwy. But just normal driving I get 15-16/22-24. My meter sits around 13mpg because I do a ton of idling.
I would trade a powerhouse 2.7 reg cab (sleeper truck!) for an extra cab any day, but then I have a 4 year old and a 9 year old. Space would be nice, I just bought a 2019 XL F150 regular cab 3.3L last month. Cleaning truck out to fit kids in is a pain in the ass.
@tall bike guy If you can still find any remaining 2019s, deals can be made. I just bought a 2019 in december. What really made the deal is I received a $2500 private offer (on top of all other discounts its basically an extra coupon from Ford). You request catalogs for F-150s and you might get one in mail.
Do you think the 3.3 could tow a 3000lb boat and trailer confidently? Also, do you run regular or premium for the 2.7 getting it's mpg? Thank you! Just trying to learn more about these 2 engines!
2.7 premium. It has port and direct injection. With direct you get some carbon on the valves and you have to pull the heads to clean them. Putting chemical in the throttle body will wipe out the turbo. Run premium to slow this buildup down.
@@edregener7018 Okay, I figured that would be best for engine longevity. I know Ford re-engineered the 2.7 to have both port and direct injection and thought maybe carbon build up wouldn't be a big issue compared to solely direct. I wonder when significant signs of build up will show up down the line in mileage/years. I imagine the turbos speed up carbon build up too? I did not know about the issue of applying chemicals in throttle body damaging the turbos. Thank you for the info!
@@ericpeterson4038 Thank you for sharing your experience on this. I figured the 3.3 would be the way I’d like to go being more simple and enough power for my needs. Towing a pontoon and trailer at 2500-3000lbs is a big factor in my consideration.
@@ericpeterson4038 Yeah, the more I think about it I know it can get the job done, but you make a good point. Not worth struggling to get up to speed with heavy traffic having the family on board too. Thank you for your experience.
Old post I realize but I just towed about 7000 lbs with a trailer and car on it with a 3.3 for about 150 miles. I didn't have working brakes on the trailer so I didn't exceed 60 mph, but the truck handled it fine. Was towing out of hills that are getting ozarkish when I started, up to more roll8ng stuff by the end but it only really struggled and hit 2nd gear a couple times. Got 13.5 mpg pulling. That was in a 2018 crew cab 4x4. It held 60 mph the whole time I told it to. Parked it back in the son in laws driveway without trailer at 24.9 mpg. I liked it enough and liked the fuel economy enough I'm looking to buy one for myself.
Sounds like you bought a 3.3L and are trying to convince yourself you made a good purchase. Unfortunately, you are not considering the following: Resale value of the 2.7L will be significantly higher. The 2.7L is the highest demand motor for the F150. Also I live in Houston and currently I get 19.5 mpg in STOP and GO traffic crawling along at 30 mph at 5pm with my 2.7L. I get about 25 mpg on the freeway. As for the 10 speed transmission, you should do more research. Chevrolet and Ford went in on the research and development together for that transmission to ensure it was rock solid! There are 3.5L EcoBoost trucks with slicks on them running in 10s in the 1/4 mile on the stock transmission with the turbo turned up to higher PSI. I guarantee you if you leave the engine stock and don't tune it, that transmission will last a long time, especially with only the 2.7L beating on it, because it had to be designed to handle the HP and torque from the 3.5L EcoBoost. So its over engineered for the 2.7L. The 2.7L is a $500 up charge option over the 3.3L. Look up used 2018 F150s, and the 3.3L versions are selling for at least $4,000 less than the 2.7L. Clearly the 2.7L, despite only being a $500 option, holds its value far better than the 3.3L.
Calm down there he got rid of his 3.3 for an older 3.5 eco boost. Check his other videos. I have the 3.3 but I'm not in the mood to argue with you. So happy you love your 2.7
@@brooks323 Its not just me who loves it, this report (from 2017) says it all, and the gap has got even wider since this report: "Heading into 2018, Ford’s truck marketing manager Todd Eckert tells Automotive News that the 2.7-liter EcoBoost will be the most popular F-150 engine followed by the 3.5-liter EcoBoost. Together, they’ll claim 65 percent of all F-150 sales, leaving 10 percent for the new entry-level 3.3-liter, and roughly 25 percent for the five-point-oh." So clearly the MAJORITY of F150 owners are happy with their 2.7L EcoBoost. Heck even the 5.0L is over twice as more popular than the 3.3L. Just saying, trying to make a case for the 3.3L being the "best" when clearly it's by far the least popular engine, is like trying to list the "pros" of taking the ugliest girl in school to prom. You are not fooling anyone but yourself.
@@Steven-gv1ke I really don't care what you think or what this Todd Eckert asshole expert thinks. I love my 3.3 and that's all what matters. I really don't care if you own a 2.7 and I don't really care about you. LOL
I have the 3.3 and love it.
I have single cab short bed 3.3.
Very happy with the package.
My best with synthetic blend motorcraft oil is 26.3.
it's enough for normal use
Thanks for the good info. I'm between the 3.3 and 2.7 engine, now leaning towards the 3.3.
Just got a 2020 F150. Got it with the 3.3L, for what I need it has plenty of power. Not loading more than 1000lbs and never pull any trailer. Plus, no worries about the problems they had with the EcoBoost. Most people wanting the EcoBoost want it for the wrong reasons, they are thinking they have a race truck and act that way.
@Name` Da'jew very simple you simpleton, it comes in handy with my renovation work.
@Name` Da'jew thanks for your advice simpleton, but I alone know what I need the truck for. You didn't need to respond to my comment concerning the vid either, did you?
No matter what engine you choose for your F150, you will think that you have chosen the best engine for your F150
They are all good
Just purchased a brand new XL with the 3.3L, very happy I didn't go turbo, less issues, and in reality I knew mileage would come out less.
I barely bought the truck, every Ford dealer I went to all looked at me funny when I said " Give the most striped down, rubber floor and vinyl seat, non EcoBoost, Supercab." Found one closely optioned to what I want, but I think sticker had about 3 options total, not bad. Only truck on 4 lots like that, the sales manager had to look hard for it, as everybody wants a soccer mom truck. 🤣
This is exactly what I have been looking for. Almost 16 years ago I was on the same hunt when I found my base model F250 with rubber floors and seats and no power options. Still have it, it's just rusting really bad.
Yes, Its kinda funny how the dealers have 100s of the same trucks (in 4 variants) all over their lots. You want something different, you need to hunt for that one dealer in your area that orders some different vehicles. I had to drive from Austin to go down to Jordan Ford in San Antonio, ending up getting a fair deal too on my new 2019!
I was on the fence between the 3.3 and the 2.7EB as well. I test drove both and ended up going with the 2.7, the 3.3 felt like kind of a slug by comparison. It’s only a 35hp difference between the two engines but it seemed like a much wider gap after driving them both. Plus, I’m averaging about 23 mpg out of the EB. Got a lifetime warranty from the dealership I bought it from, so I’m not sweating the extra complexity of the 2.7 too bad.
your definition of "lifetime" probably isn't the same as Fords
How's that 2.7 ecoboost working out for ya? Has it stood the test of time seeing its been 2 plus years?
@@ubangiestomp 2 years is nothing and these engines have already failed in sizeable amounts. In 20 years they will be obsolete, just as Ford intended
That 3.3 wil probably out I’ve the eccoboost and 5.0.
I have a 2.7 with the 10speed. I had a 2017 Silverado with 5.3 and 6 speed. The 2.7 and 10 speed is way smooth and feels way more natural than the cylinder deactivation and 6 speed. I really think 2.7 is the truck to buy, get a stx with sync 3 and then you can upgrade to leather and whatever else you want.
2.7 has a unique combo of good towing power and economy. No doubt!
My 17 2.7 Ecoboost 4wd Super Crew has gotten around town 20.4 hand Calculate pretty much from day 1. I admit I’m a grandpa and pretty easy on the gas pedal, I let my son borrow it for a few days and mileage dropped to indicated 18.2. Wife also kill gas mileage when she drive it, truck loves Poppy and I love it! Never liked a vehicle more, but often wondered if I’d been just fine with the 3.3, but leaving them big V8’s at the red light is so much fun!!!
"them big v8s" probably have triple the mileage and double the years your truck ever will achieve, they'll laugh as they pass you broken down on the road.
@@bldontmatter5319Bull shit, I’ll argue you’ll get more mileage out of the low reving built like a diesel 2.7 Ecoboost compared to the high reving Coyote, go to Auto Trader and see how many 200k+ 2.7 powered F150’s you see. If you keep a vehicle longer than that probably need get a better paying job or make your child support payments up to date.
I do about 20 MPG with my 2.7 Ecoboost in winter. Maybe if you have a heavy foot, you would have less MPGs that with the 3.3, but that's not enough for me to opt for a less powerful engine. My father has the 3.5 base engine that was available in 2015, and the difference between his truck and mine is very clear. I love the power of the 2.7 Ecoboost and I think it's worth it to get maybe a little bit less MPG to get a truck that is very responsive. When I was driving my father's truck, I was sometimes getting very upset when I wanted to pass other cars and the engine didn't respond. Even on Sport Mode, I didn't really feel the difference. But now that I'm driving my 2.7, it's a totally different world, where I don't always stay on Sport mode because that engine on Sport mode is so agressive that it becomes annoying to drive as the gas pedal becomes extremely sensible.
Another factor is the torque. When I was driving the 3.5 base engine on cruise control at 75 MPH on the highway, it had to downshift for every hill to climb, while my 2.7 downshifts very rarely.
I agree the power difference and capability between these 2 engines is extremely different. If I only owned one truck- it would certainly be one of the more powerful F150 engines than the base. But I have a 3.5EB and a 5.7L hemi in my other 2 trucks, so this particular truck I bought was for economy in both purchase price and overall fuel economy. Update- Since this video was purchased I have sold that truck after 22k miles, and last month I purchased a 2019 F150 XL Reg Cab w 3.3 non turbo. Any comments bout the 10 speed?
It doesn't downshift, because that tiny engine is getting blown to bits LOL. Good thing you don't value what you buy because that truck will be dead in 10 years tops
the 3.3 is 290 hp. that's 15 hp more than my 1995 camaro z28 lt1 engine. i agree if your towing a 3000 lb trailer the base is the way to go. and the msrp usually thousands less. and no turbo failure anxiety.
I wouldn’t worry about turbos they’re fairly inexpensive rebuilt. I would worry more about fuel injection on both 2.7 and 3.3.
And if you put the intake kit you get 300 hp
I agree with him about the turbo failure. This is why we need to go back to carburetors as well, no fuel injection failure. We also need to get rid of coil packs over cylinders and go back to distributors. We also need to replace our computers with calculators, bic pens and notebook paper, or manual push button type writers, and get rid of washing machines and use the old school crank clothes washers with rollers... they are all more reliable. We should never advance forward in anything and technology should stand still... heck yeah... thats the way to go!
@@Steven-gv1ke I'm fixin to do a vid bout putting Mikunis on my 2019 F-150. Should end up being a lot more reliable.
@@Steven-gv1ke Steven, maybe a 350 Chevy conversion in a new F-150 would be a good move. I'm with you there- maybe something from my Jegs catalog.
Use eco mode in the 2.7 it really makes a huge difference in the throttle response which keeps you out of it. Awkwardly enough the wet/snow mode does an even better job. It makes the truck feel like a N/A if you’re that concerned with it.
The increase in MPG or the 2.7 is noticeable in eco or wet/snow modes?
There’s an old saying, use the right tool for the job.
I had a 2.7. Excellent motor, very good design. It’s been dual injection since 2018. It was with a 4x4 super crew F150 302a 2019.
But I realized I almost never used the back seats, never used 4x4, and hardly tow anything. Only really tow my 2600 lbs pontoon boat a few hours drive here and there.
So with that, I got sick of the high payment and looked to downgrade.
I now have a 2021 F150 regular cab 2wd long bed 101a high.
The bed is very useful. The 3.3 is the right tool (engine) for this truck.
Very acceptable acceleration, and pulls my pontoon at an acceptable speed too. The 10 speed shifts vastly improved with the new truck compared to my 19.
Though some have said their super crew 4x4 3.3 is fine, I wouldn’t want that heavy of a truck with the 3.3. But for a regular cab truck it’s very ideal, especially if you don’t tow a lot.
With my 2.7 I had to use premium to get good mileage. But with the 3.3 I use 87 octane and get 22-23 mpg average mostly not highway.
You can use flex fuel with the 3.3
3.3 or the 5.0 are the only ones worth buying stay away from the eco junk nothing but problems later down the road
The 5.0 has a terrible transmission wine. I traded it because of it. Not impressed
@@6.0charleston843 the transmission is that 10 speed has nothing to do with the engine. I would probably buy the 3.3 to get the 6 speed. Why ford developed a transmission with gm is beyond me. Gm is junk
my 2.7 dont wine. i owned both trucks noth 2020. 5.0 sounds terrible in wnedys drive through. embarrassing
I've been looking at a 2022 with the 3.3. I thought I'd need an Ecoboost, but I also have a 12 valve. And I doubt I'd ever tow much more then 6k with a half ton anyways. But going across country and touring the island, I think the 3.3 is a good choice for me. I currently have a 2020 Hyundai Ioniq EV. You want to talk about slow? My electric car is slow. It's very efficient however. And I'm not built for speed. I've never had the need to tear out of a stop light as fast as I could. I'm strongly considering the 3.3 due to it's simplicity as well. Mechanics really love them because there so damn easy to work on. The flex fuel thing doesn't really work out here in Canada, but I can see some appeal to it if you live in a corn state and can access E85. But there's only like 4 stations in Canada that serve E85. And I'm pretty sure there all in B.C. I could be wrong on that though. But the flex fuel thing is a nice thought.
I still get 20 MPG with my 2009 4.6L V8 F-150 with 260K miles. Am buying another V8 powered F150 soon.
2018 STX Supercrew 2.7 2wd owner here. I wanted an STX but you can only get it in V8 or EB. My self control on the foot is really good, as well as my swap to Eco mode, so no complaints about MPG's or wanting to gun it (except once every blue moon), and no complaints about my 10 speed shifting or problems. I do not tow anything so I'm hoping that boosts (no pun intended) the life of my truck Although I love my 2.7 and believe I made a great choice, but I know that I would've been happy with the 3.3 like yours, keep us posted!!
You will burn some gas when you first get a 2.7. After some time with this engine. You will learn how to stay out of it. I drove my 2016 F165 driving for Lyft for one year. I learned to get 19 mpg in the city.
I have a 2018 2.7L F-150 and I can honestly say my foot has never bottomed out the pedal, at most 3/4 of full throttle. I live in a very busy town and get 19 MPG’s in city and 24 on Highway at 75 MPG’s with an oversized cap. For me, the 2.7L is the best of both world’s, economy and power when needed. The 2.7L is a beast. The 3.0L eco boost is based on the 2.7L. I truly believe the 3.3L has its place in the market. 290 HP and 260 lbs of torque is plenty of power for a work truck and towing 5,000 lbs. Peace
Just traded in my 2018 with a 3.3 on a 2022 with 2.7. The 3.3 is a great engine but cant compare to the 2.7. First 100 mile trip it averaged 26.5 mpg in eco mode.
Next trip I drove it over a 10,000
ft. elevation mountain mountain and it never shifted below 7th gear. Did a lot of studying before buying this truck. Think it's a better built engine than the 3.5 and for me the right choice.
Dude you’re in round rock, I just drove there
You were in my neighborhood filming this video! RRTX!
Thanks for this I have been curious.
almost halfway into 2023 has Ford fixed any and all issues with the 10 speed automatic transmission ??? ... because number one this is EXACTLY why you NEVER get the first year of ANY automobile ... at MINIMUM you wait until the 2nd year ... but after 5 years I'm assuming they FIXED everything ???
*_Running a red light at _**_0:14_**_ ...._* 😑😑😑
I have a 3.3 crew cab and tow 5 thousand pounds my RV and full of stuff. I have a best gas mileage of 15.1 and a worst of 13.6.
You ran a red light
2.7 had a 5.0 now I have a tuner . Much better !
Thanks for the video. Still on the fence between the 2.7 and the 3.3.
Really hoping someone will do a mileage test in each with 1000 lbs in the bed. What I would consider a normal contractor load.
Get the 2.7 I never get below 19-20mpg and it’s a rocket. I live in a ruralish area and do mix of around town and highway. If I stay around 60 on the highway I get 24-25 and 21-22 at 75+. 355 rear end
I agree, get the 2.7L. This video poster clearly doesn't know what self control is. When you drive normal, you get great gas mileage. When you need to get up and move (say merging into traffic on freeway) it can move out like a rocket. Best of all worlds. Plus the resale value of the 2.7L is far higher than a 3.3L. Ford even says they sell more 2.7L by far than any other motor. Its the most popular.
If capability is important to your, get the 2.7L. There is a world of difference in towing ability.
@@snipert6841 Yea that's not realistic out here in west Tx 🤣. Speed limits around here are 80mph. People drive 5-10 over. If your going 60 thats a good way for someone to come rear end you
Damian Lopez speed limits in the northeast are 60-65 but I’m from MA and we go 85 everywhere. Still averaging 19mpg 11 months later 15k on the truck
The mpg numbers you gave at the end- which engine is that?
thank you!
I have a 17 2.7 but thinking of getting an 18 3.3. Mainly because I got a regular cab and want to get a back seat... and they got them on sale for $23,500, (low as 21k if military and/or student.) which is insanely low.
I agree that it’s hard to get good gas mileage with the 2.7. I don’t drive like a maniac, but there’s some normal situations where the turbos kick on and the gas tank just drains super quick
What are you getting ? I have a 5.0 and i get 16 in town and 22 n highway
If I drive like a grandpa I get 17-18 city 24-26 hwy. But just normal driving I get 15-16/22-24. My meter sits around 13mpg because I do a ton of idling.
I would trade a powerhouse 2.7 reg cab (sleeper truck!) for an extra cab any day, but then I have a 4 year old and a 9 year old. Space would be nice, I just bought a 2019 XL F150 regular cab 3.3L last month. Cleaning truck out to fit kids in is a pain in the ass.
I saw on CZcams someone racing a 2.7 vs a 3.3 and they tried to say that the 3.3 won I very much doubt it
65 granny speed! LOL, to me the speed limit is just a suggestion. Only time my truck sees the speed limit is on the way by !
Thought ford last motor naturally aspirated in the f150 was a 3.7 not a 3.5
To make it even more confusing, as of 2018 that motor is now a 3.3...they keep tweaking it.
It was both the 3.5 and 3.7 before that. The 3.5 lasted a total 2 years before redesign
You get pretty good mileage. Is your truck a 4x4?
5.0 Coyote any day of the week over all the V6 motors.
Ford dealers will be discounting inventory big time this fall...here comes receszion
zzgeoergez Dane by how much ??
@@n1n0z24 Check out my Vid- How much I paid for 2019 F-150 Price Reveal.
@tall bike guy If you can still find any remaining 2019s, deals can be made. I just bought a 2019 in december. What really made the deal is I received a $2500 private offer (on top of all other discounts its basically an extra coupon from Ford). You request catalogs for F-150s and you might get one in mail.
I traded a 2018 5.0/10 spd with 11k miles for a 2016 5.0. The trans was terrible and the 5.0 sounded like a diesel.
19 mpg in my 16 3.5 Ecoboost
The ecoboost need Premium fuel to get the printed fuel millage ....of courseFord never told a mojority of Americans 🤔
Do you think the 3.3 could tow a 3000lb boat and trailer confidently?
Also, do you run regular or premium for the 2.7 getting it's mpg?
Thank you! Just trying to learn more about these 2 engines!
2.7 premium. It has port and direct injection. With direct you get some carbon on the valves and you have to pull the heads to clean them. Putting chemical in the throttle body will wipe out the turbo. Run premium to slow this buildup down.
@@edregener7018 Okay, I figured that would be best for engine longevity. I know Ford re-engineered the 2.7 to have both port and direct injection and thought maybe carbon build up wouldn't be a big issue compared to solely direct. I wonder when significant signs of build up will show up down the line in mileage/years.
I imagine the turbos speed up carbon build up too? I did not know about the issue of applying chemicals in throttle body damaging the turbos. Thank you for the info!
@@ericpeterson4038 Thank you for sharing your experience on this. I figured the 3.3 would be the way I’d like to go being more simple and enough power for my needs.
Towing a pontoon and trailer at 2500-3000lbs is a big factor in my consideration.
@@ericpeterson4038 Yeah, the more I think about it I know it can get the job done, but you make a good point.
Not worth struggling to get up to speed with heavy traffic having the family on board too. Thank you for your experience.
Old post I realize but I just towed about 7000 lbs with a trailer and car on it with a 3.3 for about 150 miles. I didn't have working brakes on the trailer so I didn't exceed 60 mph, but the truck handled it fine. Was towing out of hills that are getting ozarkish when I started, up to more roll8ng stuff by the end but it only really struggled and hit 2nd gear a couple times. Got 13.5 mpg pulling. That was in a 2018 crew cab 4x4. It held 60 mph the whole time I told it to. Parked it back in the son in laws driveway without trailer at 24.9 mpg. I liked it enough and liked the fuel economy enough I'm looking to buy one for myself.
Sounds like you bought a 3.3L and are trying to convince yourself you made a good purchase. Unfortunately, you are not considering the following:
Resale value of the 2.7L will be significantly higher. The 2.7L is the highest demand motor for the F150.
Also I live in Houston and currently I get 19.5 mpg in STOP and GO traffic crawling along at 30 mph at 5pm with my 2.7L. I get about 25 mpg on the freeway.
As for the 10 speed transmission, you should do more research. Chevrolet and Ford went in on the research and development together for that transmission to ensure it was rock solid! There are 3.5L EcoBoost trucks with slicks on them running in 10s in the 1/4 mile on the stock transmission with the turbo turned up to higher PSI. I guarantee you if you leave the engine stock and don't tune it, that transmission will last a long time, especially with only the 2.7L beating on it, because it had to be designed to handle the HP and torque from the 3.5L EcoBoost. So its over engineered for the 2.7L.
The 2.7L is a $500 up charge option over the 3.3L. Look up used 2018 F150s, and the 3.3L versions are selling for at least $4,000 less than the 2.7L. Clearly the 2.7L, despite only being a $500 option, holds its value far better than the 3.3L.
Calm down there he got rid of his 3.3 for an older 3.5 eco boost. Check his other videos.
I have the 3.3 but I'm not in the mood to argue with you. So happy you love your 2.7
@@brooks323 Its not just me who loves it, this report (from 2017) says it all, and the gap has got even wider since this report:
"Heading into 2018, Ford’s truck marketing manager Todd Eckert tells Automotive News that the 2.7-liter EcoBoost will be the most popular F-150 engine followed by the 3.5-liter EcoBoost. Together, they’ll claim 65 percent of all F-150 sales, leaving 10 percent for the new entry-level 3.3-liter, and roughly 25 percent for the five-point-oh."
So clearly the MAJORITY of F150 owners are happy with their 2.7L EcoBoost. Heck even the 5.0L is over twice as more popular than the 3.3L.
Just saying, trying to make a case for the 3.3L being the "best" when clearly it's by far the least popular engine, is like trying to list the "pros" of taking the ugliest girl in school to prom. You are not fooling anyone but yourself.
@@Steven-gv1ke ok
@@Steven-gv1ke I really don't care what you think or what this Todd Eckert asshole expert thinks. I love my 3.3 and that's all what matters. I really don't care if you own a 2.7 and I don't really care about you. LOL
here's an expert for you--czcams.com/video/QkYS6mpwiSM/video.html
The turbos are junk,the entire truck is junk !!ford junk..