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I have a question. What about ryzen 9 5900x? I have a Ryzen 9 5900x paired rtx 3080 gigabyte vison (white version 10 gb), x570 PG Velocita Motherboard, 32gb 3600mhz ram, 850 psu, and a 360mm AIO cooler. Im a content creator as well as a gamer and I want to upgrade my gpu most likey to an RX 7900 xtx because Ive never had a AMD GPU and I want the extra V ram. Do you think I have to upgrade my whole rig to the ryzen 7000 series CPU? That would mean a new motherboard and ram too. I have money but im not rich lol!
The 2022 edition of this video was so helpful to me when I was putting together my build last year. Could not find this sort of advice anywhere else. Love that your channel offers this sort of pragmatic, easy to digest advice.
@@PCBuilderChannel Pity I didn't found this channel before... I'm a 53 y.o guy that haven't build a PC for like 15 years, and it was a bit daunting to make one just to play BG3 :D, everything has changed since last time, starting with the demise of HDDs 0_0 On a really low budget under 650€, including Windows 11 and with prices not as good as in USA, after an entire afternoon of research I ended with a i3-1200 + RX6600 (+ 32 RAM, 1T SSD, Thermalright cooler, Fractal case, TUF Wifi motherboard, 750w basic supply, etc) and I regret nothing... or should I?
This video is still extremely helpful in mid-October 2023 as I look out on the landscape of PC parts with an upcoming upgrade planned in the 2023 holiday season. There is no other tech creator that breaks down the various tiers as well as you do and the conversation around bottleneck helps put the CPU vs GPU into much needed perspective. I love the specific mention of folks who have an AM4 motherboard and the option for the Ryzen 7 5800 X3D because this is exactly the scenario I'm in and you helped me make a decision on what tier GPU makes the most sense for me.
@@PCBuilderChannel Would you place the Radeon 7800 XT squarely in the Midrange GPU category @ 10:26 mid-tier? It seems like given the price per performance it would be better than the 6950 XT, unless you think the previous gen still edges out the new gen in this case? My goal is to game at 1440p using my existing Ryzen 5 5600X.
This is a terrific conversation to have when specing out a new build, and I especially appreciate the comments about "future proofing". I personally prefer to build in cpu headroom because it's far easier to upgrade a gpu later. And historically gpus have the most movement in their pricing so planning a 2-3 year gpu upgrade has worked for me. But I build on a 5-6 year cycle so my entire build is built with 5 years of performance wants/needs instead of optimizing for just today. YMMV
@@makunouchiippo816 Meaning your GPU was either underutilized for years, or isn't performing very well now. "Unlocking" the performance of an older GPU with a CPU upgrade is simply an admission that your GPU was previously bottlenecked by the CPU and you have never been getting maximum possible performance from the system. If the GPU was free or otherwise obtained for less than market price this is certainly an acceptable situation. If you paid full price for all that unused capacity much less so. It is simply undeniable that it is much easier to upgrade a GPU than a CPU, which will often also involve a new MOBO or the risks associated with a BIOS update.
I remember building in ye olde days and seeing people like Jason who would somehow manage to extract similar (or more) performance for $300 less than my builds. Only now am I figuring out how you guys did it. Thanks for putting the fun back into building, Jason.
The good news is that most 16 VRAM graphics cards at the market can't really use those 16 gb, so we wont be seeing games targeting anything above 8 GB in a near future.
@@garibaldo1 it's good for gamers but for the workstation builds who also wanna game under budget i'd recommend minimum 8gb vram and 12gb vram for best performance
Last time I tried doing this myself, having built my PCs for years and years, I failed to realize the CPU I bought was in the same family and model range at the time, but did not have hyperthreading, which went on to become a fabulous problem, leaving me out of a lot of gaming and software I wanted to run at the time. This kind of video is a must, even for people who have been doing this for a while.
Not necessarily a problem, my old PC had an 8-core Core i7 9700K with no hyperthreading and it ran all games like a champ. As long as you have at least six physical cores (preferably eight), you don't really need hyperthreading for games.
Upgraded from Ryzen 3 3200G and RX570 to a Ryzen 5 5600 and RTX 2060. I had my old pc for 2 years now and used it for gaming and programming, but handling multiple virtual machines and multitasking has become slower and slower. Thanks to my supportive family, got to have an upgrade and I only have a 4% bottleneck which is easily remedied by resolution settings. Multitasking has never been smoother and gaming has never been more fun tbh. I feel like my pc can go for around 4-5 years. I think the component that would make that future proof a bit less is the B450 motherboard. I just hope the support won't go away anytime soon.
When i built my first PC 10 years ago, it was either i5-4690k/R9 280, or FX8350/R9 290 with my strict $700 budget. Im so happy I went with the first, as my father still uses that PC with zero issues, although its really starting to show its age
Just built a new machine about a month and a half ago.. I went with the 7700X and 7900XTX combo. I was originally gonna get a 7800X3D.. but at the time of research there was the issues of chips blowing up and all that and not a lot of explanations as to why yet so I opted to go with something else and the 7700X was $50 off of MSRP right then so I thought it would pair nicely and it has been a dream of a machine so far. I can run most games (Elden Ring, and FF7 Remake to name a couple..) on high or ultra settings at 4k and some light ray tracing engaged and it's butter smooth. I have no doubts this machine will last me 8+ years or longer.
I just subbed to your channel. I have only seen four videos, and as somebody who likes building PCs in his free time and is interested in the same topics you cover, I admit that you do it better and faster. It is only different when looking at pricing, as I am located in Europe. Keep up the great work. What you bring to the table in 17 minutes is a blessing for everybody who wants to build a suitable system.
Funny, its November and I was just about finishing building my new pc. For a second there when I started to watch I was afraid I would be completely off, but turned out I actually just hit the mark with one of CPU + GPU combinations you mentioned. Its very nice and reassuring to know I have not screwed up my pc build and my whole day doing it was successful.
I decided to go with the 7600x and 6750xt combo to put me on the AM5 socket so in another couple of years I can spend more to upgrade the CPU and GPU at the same time without having to upgrade anything else. More or less rather then spending around $1200 for all of my components I can focus the same $1200 on just two components at upgrade time. Which is usually what I do. Get in somewhere around the mid range area at the time (which is usually a big upgrade from what I had before) when it is time for a full new build, then just at the end of a socket get the absolute best upgrades I can afford in GPU and CPU and then ride that out until I just have to do a full new build. Was running i5 8600k and 1070Ti before which has kept me going right up to this year before I really had to start turning down settings to still be able to play current games at a decent frame rate. I typically only do a new build about every 5 to 7 years or so.
Im doing to the same. Im building one with an i3 13100f but Because I wanted to go DDR5 and Im planning to on a I7 later but at the Moment Im just trying to get it done as soon as I can. Im only missing video card, ram and SDD I just built the the rest today, Im trynna get the Rx7600 Because I also planing to play at 1080p and I only spending 950$ in everything including monitor. Keyboard and mouse.
As somebody who has been out of the loop with this sort of stuff for a while and is considering putting together a gaming PC I'm finding your content enormously useful. Thank you so much.
I’m in the same boat, 30 fps starfield gave me the push back to pc. Careful though, I went from being kinda reasonable 5600/6600xt to SSF mini itx builds. Just a case is £200😂. Then there SFX PSU’s 😳 I went from around £600 to over £1500 real quick. Having strong words with myself😅
@@christinaedwards5084 Between it not coming to PS5 and it being stuck at 30fps on Xbox I think Starfield is giving Jason and his peers a lot of clicks. 😂 And I know what you mean, it's hard to not get carried away and get more performance than I will reasonably need. I've assembled a few lists for various tiers and plan top just sit on it for a while so the "oh shiny" part of my brain can calm down.
@@JS-dr1gi it’s the FOMO 😂 Cause I own a QHD 144hz monitor I want 144fps. When I started I was more reasonable 100fps and medium settings was my target. I know why, if I’m going to spend so much as I’m starting from scratch I want it to last at least 6 years before starting again. My mentality is if it’s 140+ fps today should be at least 60 in 5-6 years time. Bigger problem is everything I like the look of is AM4 which limits upgrade potential. But I read bad things about AM5
@@christinaedwards5084 hahah me too... i wont list em all but just one mention of my room right now, i have 4 CPU coolers. ill stop at that.. ok one more 3 Rog strixx boards.. i shoul get those "strong words" tattood to my fore head!
That is great to hear! I actually started this channel when I returned to pc building after a break and wishes there was more info out there for new and returning builders.
Good video all around. If I had just one nit to pick though, I'd point out something in the AM4 platform upgrade section: At most places, a 5700X costs about half the 5800X3D, has a little over half the TDP and better thermals, to the point you can get away with using a stock cooler with it (read: even more savings that can go into a better GPU or a new system later down the line), and there's only a 5 to 15% performance difference, depending on the game. That already makes it the better cost/performance ratio AM4 CPU, but the main reason I write this comment isn't even necessarily about that metric. Put simply, the AM4 is a legacy platform, already superseded by the AM5 chipset. If someone wants to further upgrade their CPU later, they would have no choice but to switch motherboards, at which point they would be pretty much building a new system from scratch, which makes sinking an extra 150-200 USD into a processor with a limited lifespan in exchange of an average of 10% more FPS a wasteful proposition.
I made the mistake of upgrading my CPU thinking it'll open more room for my 2070 super about a year ago. It worked okay for a while but then I could see that it was really stressing my GPU. So when I got the money I upgraded to a 3080 and now my 5900x is ZOOMING and my 3080 is kicking so much ass. This was a great combo for me!
Well it depends on what games and on what setting are you playing. I just got Ryzen 7800X3D paired with 2070 super but I play Fortnite only on competitive settings with 240hz monitor and I don't have bottleneck from my GPU. Still running solid 600-900 FPS. But yes if you are playing other titles where you want to look good instead of squeezing every bit of FPS possible yes it's better to get a better GPU with a slower CPU.
Im using 5950x with rtx 3070 does 5950x handle and feed rtx 4070ti?? I think its last gpu upgrade for me with 5950x 2 more years and will sell that and upgrade whole build. With new AM6 if there will be by then?
Thanks for another boost video, Jason. About boost story 9, I updated his build for better and extra parts. I upgraded his CPU to a 7900 from a 7700, His ssd would be 1tb WD BLACK 850X and 2tb SOLIDIGM P41 PLUS for 200 CAD instead of a single 2 TB 850X. We've been chatting about the upcoming AMAZON and newegg sale to buy the GPU and the other parts and what should he get first and last. Edit: The total for this update is 3030 CAD and he doesn't mind that its close to budget limit as long as the sale hits. I told him to get the psu first considering the psu market and the psu is on sale right now and he just ordered the psu yesterday.
I'm always spending a lot more on the CPU because it's going to see multiple generations of GPUs. Upgrading it requires ditching the motherboard and ram most of the time (thanks intel) so I keep it for 6 years, at the very least. (checking back, it was 2004, 2009, 2015, 2023) January 2023 I got a 13700K, because the added price over the 13600K was worth for the extra cores that are going to carry later on even though today both have similar gaming performance. Also, the second reason is that you can tweak graphical settings to suit your GPU, but you cannot change the CPU cost of a game, meaning a CPU bottleneck can only be resolved by changing the part, not the settings. When down the line the CPU is limited to 100 fps and there's nothing I can do about it, then that's when I have desire to change it. Third reason is that GPU performance have much better generational improvement compared to CPUs.
Same. I also play at 1080p so... lol. Also the CPU is useful for other stuff outside of gaming while the GPU isn't as important as it is in gaming. I have a i5 8600 and will upgrade to a r9 7900 or whatever the 8000 series if it's any good. And I will get a rtx 4070 since it's the same price as a 7800xt in my region and that power consumption is so low it's amazing and 12gb vs 16gb isn't a conversation when I play 1080p.
exactly idk why misinformed ppl try to tell others on a budget to get a less powerful cpu to get a better gpu. i.e. 5800x with a 3080 instead of going with something like a 5800x3d with a refurbished or preowned 2060-2070. the 2000 series can still run pretty much every competitive fps game on the market rn at 1080p low at 144fps avg. Yeah youll have a gpu bottleneck but thats easily relieved say in a year when you have enough to actually upgrade to like a 4000 series. Also u wont need to get a new mobo if the new cpu socket changes etc
I thoroughly agree. I think the advice to not invest too much in a CPU and putting that money towards a GPU instead will lead to better performance in that moment. But over the entire lifetime of the build, I really believe in leaving a little headroom CPU-wise to benefit from the more affordable gains that will be available over a few generations of GPU.
I've listened to your advice and bought the 7600 + 7900 XTX, as I found a really good deal for the 7600 new at only 150 euro after tax (usually is sold at 220 euro, but I bought it with the MSI B650M PRO for 70 euro off). I hope you are right about the combo. One day in the future I might upgrade CPU to whatever the best price/performance X3D CPU there is.
@@skakuneu The GPU is heavily bottlenecking that CPU. The Minimum GPU pairing for the 13600k should be the rx 6800 or rtx 4070. But I suggest you get something more like the i5 12400f and an rx 6700xt/rx6800
One thing he didn't mention in otherwise great video is that faster CPU might not give you higher average FPS, but can still give you much better 1% lows smoothing out overall experience much more. While GPU will still render given number of frames on average, smoothest will be much noticed. Remember we don't even notice average that much, what spoils our experience is lows. For same reason 12 or better 16 Gb video card is desired. As 8 Gb card will likely still have good average but terrible lows once VRAM is maxed out.
7800xt seems to be a good sweet spot for all games. While 4070 seems to be better performance to fidelity wise, 7800xt has better performance by the dollar with a better driver overhead to boot. DLSS 3.5 and FSR 3 are also really good upscalers with incredible performance boosts. Would recommend one over the other depending the CPU though for less bottlenecking
Great info as usual. CPU vs. GPU is usually the combination that is the most difficult to measure without actually having the parts. Your advice is much appreciated. Many thanks for taking the guesswork out of fundamental PC building components.
11:53 instead of the single fan AK400, buying the cheaper AG400 Plus (dual fan single tower) and then swapping out their fans with Scythe Wondersnail is a solid alternative option too for dirt-cheap yet powerful air cooler. My 5800X3D is happy with this config.
I love how you always start each of your "best" videos with the basics so that people who are uninformed can prevent mistakes they could make. Your channel is one of a kind and very newcomer friendly :)
Excellent video! These videos always help me to stay informed and make the best build decisions. I may wait for the 14th Gen next season (or whenever it comes out), but if not, I am thinking of going with a Y60 case, 13900k with a Kraken 360 (or AK620), RTX 4090, 64gb Trident (32x2), 2TB wD Black & 8tb Samsung Evo, 1200 Seasonic Gold, and an Asus Apex or Maximus Z790. With said cooler and some good Lian Li fans, I’m hoping I don’t have to delid/direct die cool… Lots of 4k video editing, moderate gaming (Flight Simulator mostly), photo editing, and maybe some VR.
Recently upgraded from gtx 1070ti and i5 8400 with 16gigs of ram to a 4070 and r5 7600 with 32 gigs ddr5 6000mhz ram. Got an 7k/7k m2 ssd with it too. Really huge upgrade for me since I live in a country thats hard to buy stuff like this. You made me really happy with this video since now I know that I built a great pc. I just need to buy a cooler for my r5 7600 since it can almost boil a water right now with its stock cooler. Gonna pick up that deepcool you suggested, thanks!
Good video! Some info I've learnt over the last 20y of gaming/overclocking etc. 1. Select desired resolution and refresh rate. 2. Select games you want to play. 2.1 Identify which games are CPU heavy and which are GPU heavy. 3. Get a quality gold/plat/titanium PSU, even a used one with warranty etc. 4. My understanding is that for gaming, data has to go from your GPU to your RAM before going to the cpu. If you're using an older CPU or slower ram, a quality ram upgrade can improve GPU to ram to CPU bandwidth / efficiency / reduce latency between those parts. Dual channel, dual rank ram can really help a system give it's all.
+ Remember, that most top combos are Intel-biased.... 7800X3D has the best performance for games (8 X3D cores) bus "suddenly" You must take i7 or i9-14900K... (with many cores... but shitty performance for games) for the top Nvidia card :D
Absolutely awesome videos, your videos are amazingly information dense. I have to go back and rewind many times while taking notes. I was really into PC's building and specs years ago and have been out of the loop for years. I have learned a ton in a very short period of time. Thank you
Well, this has certainly given me a bunch to think about. I am currently running a Ryzen 5 2600x (32GB 3200 RAM at the moment, got scope to go up to 64GB pretty easily) with a 980Ti 6GB and whilst it manages pretty well on most things that I play at 1080, it is starting to struggle a little with new stuff, especially when I start to ramp up the image quality. I am not planning on moving away from 1080 at the moment as the monitor that I bought a few years back is still an amazing screen and that has a native 1080 resolution. Definitely want to be getting something a little more for when I get into Starfield.
I had a similar build and upgraded to a 5800X3D on a B550 Steel Legend board and wow that thing is a beast. Just get an AIO cooler for it because she gets toasty.
@@michaelwatson7249 Fingers crossed, I may have a Lenovo P720 workstation (ex CAD workstation from work) coming my way with a Xeon Silver 4210 in it that should more than outperform my current PC, at least as far as the CPU performance goes, and of not there is space to put another CPU in and (in theory) up to 384GB of RAM (never going to go that high, no need). I will need to check that I can run a decent gfx card in it, the power setup is a little different with everything running through the motherboard. If not, it should be worth enough to sell on and get some good upgrades along the lines if what has been posted here.
@@Almightyrastuswanted to let u know… I had a r5 2600x paired with a 5700xt and it was great, so when the 6800xt came out, I grabbed one refurbished for $280.. well the fps went from 160-180fps max settings… to 250+fps. Oh and that’s with Sam enabled. Mobo is a b450. Lol and now, I think besides going to a 5600x… that system will never have an issue. It’s also for my kid, so he plays lots of Fortnite and gta5 on it, says it does awesome. Best of luck out there dude
God i would legitimately pay gpu prices to be able to ask you a million of my pc questions lmao. Outstanding video (thst im going to rewatch at least a dozen times)
I've never been one to shell out for the "top" performance available at any given time. So for me it has proven more economical to err on the side of a better CPU over GPU. Been building my own PCs since the 1990s and it has proven pretty reliable that a CPU/MOBO combo will last 5-6 years with one, and possibly two GPU upgrades along with it. That second GPU upgrade often ending up transferred to the next CPU upgrade. The other advantage to this approach is it spreads out the expenses more evenly over time.
You don't shell out on the "top" performance because you want to be economical lol. That's ridiculous. You do it because you want to be able to run anything on maximum. That's it.
@@PCBuilderChannel Haha thanks! Im currently building a pc and have all the parts besides the fans, so this definitely helped! If you want to know the parts, just comment back! :D
This video helps out a lot. I am currently on Ryzen 5 3600 and was thinking about upgrading it to 5800X3D. This processor gives me the vibes of my old overclocked i5 2500K which suprisingly I used for far, far too long. It was a really good processor
I overclocked a i5-650, a 1 gen intel chip. Took two 5770 gpus in a crossfire cfg and ran it for years. Just now bought a Ryzen R9 7900x with a 6700xt. I needed to upgrade .
This was such an amazing video. You shared an abundance of knowledge and guided through each price category in such a detailed manner. I was about to make a mistake while getting the parts for my first pc build, but thanks to your guide, I'll have a rather easy time selecting the components. Thank you so much.
Picked up a brand new 7900X during a Flash sale for 348 dollars shipped. Absolutely loving it so far. I did have to go into BIOS and lower core voltage as it was crazy high out of the box.
Great video Jason! I never believed in the over buy your CPU "future proof" concept. It would be awesome if you filmed a step by step build guide for the budget an mid-tier PC's. It would be a huge benefit to new builders.
We've already got you! We got build guide galore for 5600, 12100, and theres a 5500 in our latest Best Build for June video. See the "builds and parts" list in the description for all of them
@@PCBuilderChannel Maybe it's just me, but I'm having a hard time finding the "build guides" that you mentioned would be in the description. I'm not seeing anything listed as a "builds and parts" list in the description, either.
Upper midrange: Ryzen 7 5800 with a Gigabyte Tomahawk B550 MOBO with a 3060 GPU is a great combo on the AM4 socket with DDR4 RAM. When you start getting into the AM5 sockets, DDR5 Rams things can quickly get pricey. Just have to spend a bit more on a better cooler since the 5800 runs a bit hot.
Always good to see other people who think about things like this when planning a build. My biggest issue is usually always building in a case that is limiting to gpu length(I have a love for micro atx/mini itx mobos and tiny cases fit for htpc's). It does provide me with a unique barrier that I can either wait to overcome with newer gpu models or to find a slightly different case to be able to upgrade my gpu when necessary.
I got a "bad" combo too but I'm fine with it. 5800X3D with a 6750XT. That card is bang for buck the best available in my opinion and suits my needs. However my CPU will last long enough to get a newer equivalent in a few years and this GPU will still be interestng enough to sell. I know, I know, you said it in the video. I just refuse to pay current prices to get a bit "better" while this card performs way above its competitors in its pricerange. Very happy with the performance
It's a great combo because the CPU is so fast compared to the GPU. This allows you to upgrade the GPU after a few years. Then you can do yet another GPU upgrade after another few years. The 5800X3D will handle it. However, if you bought a more balanced combo like a 5600 which most people do then it probably will keep up with future GPU upgrades. People don't think about future GPU upgrades when they buy a CPU.
@@Gr8FriknApe Because the CPU can handle a much better card, but yeah, I like the performance. No complaints there, it plays everything I throw at it with ease
Thank you for the bit on "future proofing." I have had to explain to so many friends and colleagues that unless you are going for an enthusiast build, get the concept of future proofing out of your head. Even at the enthusiast end, you are playing with fire as occasionally the next gen simply outshines previous gens by a lot (last time we truly saw this was with Pascal, GPU and the OG Ryzen release, CPU).
Currenty running an AMD 5900X, 7900 XTX, Gigabyte X570 Gaming X, 64GB DDR4 3600 CL18 ram on a Corsair RM850 PS. Case is a NZXT H5 Flow RGB and the cooler is a DeepCool LT520. Monitor is a 32" Asus 1440p, 170Hz VA panel
I have a 4070ti and a 5600x. I've been thinking of getting a 5800x3d for gaming but the 7800x3d seems really interesting. But that would require a whole pc overhaul.
5950X and 6950XT. Took me a while to be able to afford both but now I have and very happy with the result. Amazing combo both for gaming and productivity. I won't be upgrading to new AMD platform for a long while yet.
When I build a PC once every 10 years I always use 30-40% budget on CPU to ensure it will last 10 years or so. The GPU goes out of fashion/burns up faster and needs replacement every 3 years so I tend to not use up too much budget on it.
Probably wasn't the case 6 months ago but the i7-12700f is currently priced at 260 at some retailers and it's a great CPU for gaming and production. Got mine paired with an RTX 4070 and it's an excellent system.
That's a very interesting and informative video, thank you. I'm sticking to AM4 for a while, so the 5700X is the one for me for the mid to high end range. Due to my 75Hz 1080p monitor, I'm going for the 6600XT right now. Might get the 700+ version of the 8000 AMD GPU generation or its NVidia/Intel equivalent since a 1440p 120+Hz monitor is too expensive for me today. I gues we don't talk enough about "monitor bottleneck" haha All things considered, might not move to AM5 DDR5 chipset for good years, probably until it gets reasonably cheaper as DDR4 did in the past compared to its previous generation.
thing is good ones usually either big sized, high reso, or high refresh rate as for quality its rather hard since best situation would be seeing/ watching your usual contents with the preferred leds, some shops at e-malls usually do this, some dont
I agree with you on future proofing cpu/gpu. If you find yourself down this trap you got to ask yourself if you really will do a single component upgrade in a year or two. Most people don't, they just use the system as is until other limitations start becoming an issue for them, and at that point they'll look at doing an entire system again because everything at that point is old tech and its time to look at the system as a whole, hopefully without falling into the future proofing trap once again.
Totally understand that thinking. I've been keeping up with rebuilds on my current rig for over 10 years now (chuckles). One or two fans here, a cpu there, a new psu, a new heat sink, a new motherboard, updated RAM, header splitters to add new radio tech and keep my DVD/CD devices running, not to mention new M.2, SSDs and HDDs to handle all my games, videos and music (6 drives and one external). The tower case is getting crowded LOL.
I am rocking an i7-13700 and a 4070 Ti, but on DDR4, it's a bit pointless for me to update to DDR5 as of yet, but I do feel like it'll be a huge upgrade to the overall stability of the system. Maybe once the B760 boards fall in price a bit more I'll make the switch, but I am overall happy with what I have. Not going to go for a Z-type board as the CPU can't be overclocked anyway. Regardless, great video and keep up the good work!
I was thinking about the same for the RAM but next gen will be totally DDR5, that means next time you upgrade you'll need to change ram, motherboard that support that ddr5 and ofc the cpu. In some months i'm flying to usa to get me that i7, a 4080 and some ddr5 6000mhz and just forget about it for a couple of years.
Great watch👍 This series was invaluable to me building my 5600/6700XT build in January 2023🤩 Your advice from last year has aged really well as new options just aren't compelling in price/performance and the step up to a used Sapphire Nitro 6700XT has come in clutch with the 12GB of VRAM. Also gotta shout-out the power supply tier list you reference, got me a great Cooler Master 650 V2 on sale because of that. Cheers!
What would be the issue with pairing a 7800xt with a 7800X3D? I’d like to build a PC now and buy the 7900xtx when it falls in price with the next generation release. For now just building the PC to be overbuilt with the 7800xt for now to save the $450.
Went a bit overboard with my latest upgrade and switched to a 4090 in combination with a 7800x3d, B650 mb and DDR-5 6000Mhz ram (16x2). The total cost was around $1530 after selling my previous parts ( CPU, GPU, MB, RAM). I feel these specs should be good for at least 5 years (gaming at 1440p/2160p at 165 fps).
So now with the 7800xt out, what would you recommend/change in the video? I am thinking of upgrading my Ryzen 5 2600x to a 7800x3d and was planning to buy the 7800xt. After the video that sounds like an overkill. Would you recommend to go for a 7900xt instead and get the 7600 CPU? The 7800xt looks to be pretty solid and the upgrade from my current CPU should boost my system by a huge amount i guess? Most of the titles I play are not too heavy (WoW, Valheim, Witcher) but want to get into more gaming with current titles, which will probably tempt me to upgrade my 1080p monitor to a 1440p. Would be happy if you have a recommendation for me what, in your opinion, the smart thing to do would be.
I think future proofing can still be done, just not with performance. Choosing for example to go on am5 platform when it's new, means in 4 years, you'll have a cheaper second hand high end cpu for cheap (generally). I lucked out jumping onto am4 in 2017, allowing me to upgrade from r5 1400 to r5 5600 without needing to chance motherboard or other stuff, granted am4 was supported far longer than planned.
Great video! Recently got myself a Ryzen 5600 and a RX 6600 XT for 1080p gaming, and so far it has been working pretty well. I just wanted to add that the Wraith Stealth that comes whit the Ryzen 5600 is not good at all. Tried it for a bit and was getting temps close to 90 C while gaming, the good thing is that a cheap Gammaxx 400 v2 solved that problem.
I just ordered the parts for my first build and included the 12400f as my CPU. I agonized for quite awhile on the right budget motherboard to get, and finally chose the Aorus Pro. It is such a relief to see it recommended here! Thank you you've given me peace of mind haha!
To anyone who reads this: CPU vs GPU is THE talk but don't forget about your RAM. In my experience as the "go-to-tech-guy" in my circle of family/friend, the one thing that bottlenecks most system is the ram. Honestly, people cheap out on it so much because it isn't as flashy or expensive as other parts but it's such an important part of your pc's performance... and the great thing is you can go completely overkill with it for a very affordable price. You can easily get 32 or 64gb of RAM for sub $200 if you aren't too picky about specs you probably won't ever understand nor need to. RAM is used in gaming but also for productivity and it's an awesome way to prolong your system's life if you are tight. Also, while I agree with the general statement in the video, know that there are huuuuge gaps money wise between tiers for GPUs. So while it's true that it's better to maximize efficiency and not have too much bottlenecking, it's better to get a strong CPU than a weaker one as it's not as easily upgraded. Swapping a GPU is just easy, plug the old one out, the new one in and it's done. CPU, not so much. You might have to litterally scrap your entire build because of new sockets and the likes. Please be mindful of that. If you are tight at the moment and have to build yourself a pc, consider getting a stronger CPU and a weaker GPU.
I just built my first PC, upgraded from a Lenovo Legion I bought in 2018. I paired a 7800x3d and GeForce 4070 super and have had zero complaints thus far. I got a really good deal on the 4070 super on Newegg, and through my research people have been saying that the 7800x3d would be more than capable of handling a GPU upgrade at some point. Curious about more experienced builders opinions though.
HU did a part last year I think and showed that usually you can't tell the difference between Ultra and High (depending on the game (what the difference levels are for said game)) If you look at benchmarks and the says 57FPS on ultra you might get 10 more or 20 more FPS going from Ultra to High.
Thanks for your work, I was worried because I bought a R7 5700x with a RTX 4070, and I thought it was a very bad combo for bottleneck things and all, so I'm slighty reassured! But next time I'm upgrading my pc, I'll make myself sure to check your videos before committing any error!
in my 3 years of learning about pc building and pc stuff...i didnt know a channel like this existed...its simple...to the point...and great...love this...u gained one more brother fam...love the content💟.
Having a new 5800X3D and still a 2070 S. I want to upgrade my GPU to the next level and jump up from 1080p to 1440p. Are AMD´s 6950XT or even 7800XT series cards the better option, or the Nvidia 4070 ? What concerns me is the lower VRAM on the green site and the much higher power consumption on the red site. Is it best to pair AMD CPU with AMD GPU then? Or even any other AMD/NVIDIA model?
man, I wish I'd found this video when I was doing my build! I went with a ryzen 7 5700x3d + an amd 6700, I've not stress-tested it gaming wise much yet, but it's a huge upgrade over my old A10 + 1080 ti and not too far from your recommend :)
I just built a PC for less than £420. Including the ram and a modular PSU. I got a Gigabyte B550M DS3H, Ryzen 5 4600G, XFX RX 580 8gb GTS, and 16gm ram (upgrading to 128gb in march)
I have Ryzen 7600x and RTX3050. I upgraded from a i7-7700k in November. What a huge upgrade it was 😅😅. Went from under 60fps in Warzone to over 120fps in 1440p
So, how do you find out what is bottlenecking you currently? The best way is to turn down your CPU clock by some set percentage (or turning off cpu cores if you want to check if you need more cores) and turning down GPU clock. After turning down one of the above, measure the drop in performance. The highest drop in performance in whatever you value most (game, software or something else) is your target for upgrading and will give you highest boost later on. So, if turning down CPU affects your preformance the most, you need to upgrade your CPU. If turning down GPU affects the performance - upgrade your GPU. Don't turn down too much, at some point effects will accumulate and skew the image, turn down 15-30%. There is software to do 'underclocking' of GPU, for CPU a lot of motherboards can do that. There exists an environment variable in Windows with which you can turn down number of cores as well. Also, check how much memory are you using - if 100% then maybe you need more RAM.
I'm glad you mentioned the 5800X3D upgrade for any Ryzen 1, 2, and 3000 processors! I'm wanting to upgrade soon and I didn't know if my 2600X would be OK
I am loving these videos, esp two months before Christmas and I am thinking about building my son a desktop gaming rig... Thanks for your advice! New subscriber!
I just built a system, on a AM4 platform, I know there are better options, but I don't use this one for gaming. It's for music creation. So I have a Ryzen 7 5800X (that I bought on a discount) and paired with a MSI 6750XT trio GPU, and a Asus B550 Tuf motherboard, also in discount. I use 2 NVMe Seagate Firecuda 2 Tb SSD's and 64Gb DDR4 Fast RAM from Kingston and I have 2 servers for storage, each 108 Tb and via 2,5Gb LAN ports. I'm happy with the setup. And I use Dante for digital audio connections, because I have a radio station going and also a mix and mastering studio. I don't use Apple on the sound machines, because most of the software and automatization runs on Windows. I have an old apple iMAC for compatibility with my iPhone Apps, mostly my agenda app and work lists and administration tasks.
I currently have.. CPU - i3 10105f Motherboard - H510 GPU - RX6600 Ram - 8x2 16GB 3200mhz What should I upgrade next in the future? Still gonna do 1080p gaming and some editing work.
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What CPU and GPU combo are you looking at? What games do you want to play and at what resolution and FPS? Tell your story in a new comment below!
I put a 5800x3d with a 4080. Can I get a No No No!!! :D
I have a question. What about ryzen 9 5900x? I have a Ryzen 9 5900x paired rtx 3080 gigabyte vison (white version 10 gb), x570 PG Velocita Motherboard, 32gb 3600mhz ram, 850 psu, and a 360mm AIO cooler. Im a content creator as well as a gamer and I want to upgrade my gpu most likey to an RX 7900 xtx because Ive never had a AMD GPU and I want the extra V ram. Do you think I have to upgrade my whole rig to the ryzen 7000 series CPU? That would mean a new motherboard and ram too. I have money but im not rich lol!
@mattr882 Thats a fine combo!
@shadowghost815 No the 5900X can definitely handle a GPU upgrade to 7900XTX. You don't have to jump up to AM5 if you don't want to yet
My set up has i5-13600k + RTX 3080 10gb + Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5-5200 PC5-41600 CL40.
*The only bottleneck is my account balance.*
I know the feeling!
Try using your father's acc bal. Some people found their bottle neck turned into a dam neck. 😌
I heard you can over-clock your account balance with a "credit card"
The ultimate bottleneck 🤣🤣
@@PCBuilderChannelI'm buying a i5 13500 + rtx 4060 + 2x8gb 3200mhz Ram + MSI b760 pro ddr4 would there be a problem??
The 2022 edition of this video was so helpful to me when I was putting together my build last year. Could not find this sort of advice anywhere else. Love that your channel offers this sort of pragmatic, easy to digest advice.
That's great to hear! I've been excited to get the 2023 guide out but was waiting on the latest GPU launches. Happy its finally out!
+1
@@PCBuilderChannel can we get the link to the 2022 guide
the parts mentioned are out of my budget at the moment
@@PCBuilderChannel Pity I didn't found this channel before... I'm a 53 y.o guy that haven't build a PC for like 15 years, and it was a bit daunting to make one just to play BG3 :D, everything has changed since last time, starting with the demise of HDDs 0_0
On a really low budget under 650€, including Windows 11 and with prices not as good as in USA, after an entire afternoon of research I ended with a i3-1200 + RX6600 (+ 32 RAM, 1T SSD, Thermalright cooler, Fractal case, TUF Wifi motherboard, 750w basic supply, etc) and I regret nothing... or should I?
@@PCBuilderChannelHello! What is the best budget gpu for 13600k in 1080p gaming and productivity? Do gaming more than work.
This video is still extremely helpful in mid-October 2023 as I look out on the landscape of PC parts with an upcoming upgrade planned in the 2023 holiday season. There is no other tech creator that breaks down the various tiers as well as you do and the conversation around bottleneck helps put the CPU vs GPU into much needed perspective. I love the specific mention of folks who have an AM4 motherboard and the option for the Ryzen 7 5800 X3D because this is exactly the scenario I'm in and you helped me make a decision on what tier GPU makes the most sense for me.
Thanks so much for the feedback! So happy that you're still finding this video useful. And thanks for your support. :)
@@PCBuilderChannel Would you place the Radeon 7800 XT squarely in the Midrange GPU category @ 10:26 mid-tier? It seems like given the price per performance it would be better than the 6950 XT, unless you think the previous gen still edges out the new gen in this case? My goal is to game at 1440p using my existing Ryzen 5 5600X.
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This is a terrific conversation to have when specing out a new build, and I especially appreciate the comments about "future proofing". I personally prefer to build in cpu headroom because it's far easier to upgrade a gpu later. And historically gpus have the most movement in their pricing so planning a 2-3 year gpu upgrade has worked for me. But I build on a 5-6 year cycle so my entire build is built with 5 years of performance wants/needs instead of optimizing for just today. YMMV
My last GPU upgrade was 12 years ago so I can't really agree on your statement lol
So glad you enjoyed! Thanks for sharing.
@@makunouchiippo816 Meaning your GPU was either underutilized for years, or isn't performing very well now. "Unlocking" the performance of an older GPU with a CPU upgrade is simply an admission that your GPU was previously bottlenecked by the CPU and you have never been getting maximum possible performance from the system. If the GPU was free or otherwise obtained for less than market price this is certainly an acceptable situation. If you paid full price for all that unused capacity much less so.
It is simply undeniable that it is much easier to upgrade a GPU than a CPU, which will often also involve a new MOBO or the risks associated with a BIOS update.
@@ThomasD66 all these things doesnt change the fact that i Was able to use my gpu for much longer than the other guy stated an Upgrade would be needed
@@makunouchiippo816 Re read his comment. He never said anything about an upgrade being "needed." You are arguing over claims that nobody ever said.
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I remember building in ye olde days and seeing people like Jason who would somehow manage to extract similar (or more) performance for $300 less than my builds. Only now am I figuring out how you guys did it. Thanks for putting the fun back into building, Jason.
Thanks for the awesome feedback! It means a ton
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My bottleneck seems to be that manufacturers seem so reluctant to offer above 8gb VRAM to otherwise viable choices without exorbitant price increase.
The good news is that most 16 VRAM graphics cards at the market can't really use those 16 gb, so we wont be seeing games targeting anything above 8 GB in a near future.
@@garibaldo1 it's good for gamers but for the workstation builds who also wanna game under budget i'd recommend minimum 8gb vram and 12gb vram for best performance
ran bg3 with great video with mobile 3080 on my alienware laptop.
Go for an AMD card
12gb is good enough for the next 5 years
Last time I tried doing this myself, having built my PCs for years and years, I failed to realize the CPU I bought was in the same family and model range at the time, but did not have hyperthreading, which went on to become a fabulous problem, leaving me out of a lot of gaming and software I wanted to run at the time. This kind of video is a must, even for people who have been doing this for a while.
Glad to spread some learning! Thanks so much for watching :)
Not necessarily a problem, my old PC had an 8-core Core i7 9700K with no hyperthreading and it ran all games like a champ. As long as you have at least six physical cores (preferably eight), you don't really need hyperthreading for games.
Upgraded from Ryzen 3 3200G and RX570 to a Ryzen 5 5600 and RTX 2060. I had my old pc for 2 years now and used it for gaming and programming, but handling multiple virtual machines and multitasking has become slower and slower. Thanks to my supportive family, got to have an upgrade and I only have a 4% bottleneck which is easily remedied by resolution settings. Multitasking has never been smoother and gaming has never been more fun tbh. I feel like my pc can go for around 4-5 years. I think the component that would make that future proof a bit less is the B450 motherboard. I just hope the support won't go away anytime soon.
I still have that board but on Ryzen 5 2600. Would you recommend I upgrade to 5000 series I'm unsure 🤔
Now for my new cpu man what a difference it makes.
Will get another year or so put of b450 chipset before buying new system
And everyone said I was dumb when I paired my 4090 with the i5 13600k. 😏 Thanks for backing me up.🤘 I LOVE my performance.
1440p and 4k / all you need mainly in GPU, but at 1080 the 7800x3d shines
When i built my first PC 10 years ago, it was either i5-4690k/R9 280, or FX8350/R9 290 with my strict $700 budget. Im so happy I went with the first, as my father still uses that PC with zero issues, although its really starting to show its age
I had my i5 4690k and gtx 970 for around 6 years and it was still great when it bit the dust in 1080p
4670k +1080ti
rock-solid
I'm still using my fx8350 and it's fantastic lol
Just built a new machine about a month and a half ago.. I went with the 7700X and 7900XTX combo. I was originally gonna get a 7800X3D.. but at the time of research there was the issues of chips blowing up and all that and not a lot of explanations as to why yet so I opted to go with something else and the 7700X was $50 off of MSRP right then so I thought it would pair nicely and it has been a dream of a machine so far. I can run most games (Elden Ring, and FF7 Remake to name a couple..) on high or ultra settings at 4k and some light ray tracing engaged and it's butter smooth. I have no doubts this machine will last me 8+ years or longer.
gpu drivers issues? I hear those horror stories about radeon drivers and that keeps me away from that gpu, but I would love to have amd pc
I just subbed to your channel. I have only seen four videos, and as somebody who likes building PCs in his free time and is interested in the same topics you cover, I admit that you do it better and faster. It is only different when looking at pricing, as I am located in Europe. Keep up the great work. What you bring to the table in 17 minutes is a blessing for everybody who wants to build a suitable system.
So glad you found us and thank you for the sub! Hope you keep enjoying the content!
Finally someone not having issues telling and explaining why that a better part is not the best option. Subscribed.
Thank you for the sub! Hope you keep enjoying the content
Funny, its November and I was just about finishing building my new pc. For a second there when I started to watch I was afraid I would be completely off, but turned out I actually just hit the mark with one of CPU + GPU combinations you mentioned. Its very nice and reassuring to know I have not screwed up my pc build and my whole day doing it was successful.
Same. I'm using a RYZEN 5 7600X CPU with RADEON RX6750XT GPU & 2 X 16GB G.Skill Flare X5 6000MHz RAM.
I decided to go with the 7600x and 6750xt combo to put me on the AM5 socket so in another couple of years I can spend more to upgrade the CPU and GPU at the same time without having to upgrade anything else. More or less rather then spending around $1200 for all of my components I can focus the same $1200 on just two components at upgrade time. Which is usually what I do. Get in somewhere around the mid range area at the time (which is usually a big upgrade from what I had before) when it is time for a full new build, then just at the end of a socket get the absolute best upgrades I can afford in GPU and CPU and then ride that out until I just have to do a full new build.
Was running i5 8600k and 1070Ti before which has kept me going right up to this year before I really had to start turning down settings to still be able to play current games at a decent frame rate. I typically only do a new build about every 5 to 7 years or so.
Im doing to the same. Im building one with an i3 13100f but Because I wanted to go DDR5 and Im planning to on a I7 later but at the Moment Im just trying to get it done as soon as I can. Im only missing video card, ram and SDD I just built the the rest today, Im trynna get the Rx7600 Because I also planing to play at 1080p and I only spending 950$ in everything including monitor. Keyboard and mouse.
oh lol, same here (7600k×1070)
An AMD is just seems more fun and logical at the same time to own right now. The 7000 CPU series is a banger
As somebody who has been out of the loop with this sort of stuff for a while and is considering putting together a gaming PC I'm finding your content enormously useful. Thank you so much.
I’m in the same boat, 30 fps starfield gave me the push back to pc.
Careful though, I went from being kinda reasonable 5600/6600xt to SSF mini itx builds. Just a case is £200😂. Then there SFX PSU’s 😳
I went from around £600 to over £1500 real quick.
Having strong words with myself😅
@@christinaedwards5084 Between it not coming to PS5 and it being stuck at 30fps on Xbox I think Starfield is giving Jason and his peers a lot of clicks. 😂
And I know what you mean, it's hard to not get carried away and get more performance than I will reasonably need. I've assembled a few lists for various tiers and plan top just sit on it for a while so the "oh shiny" part of my brain can calm down.
@@JS-dr1gi it’s the FOMO 😂
Cause I own a QHD 144hz monitor I want 144fps.
When I started I was more reasonable 100fps and medium settings was my target.
I know why, if I’m going to spend so much as I’m starting from scratch I want it to last at least 6 years before starting again.
My mentality is if it’s 140+ fps today should be at least 60 in 5-6 years time.
Bigger problem is everything I like the look of is AM4 which limits upgrade potential. But I read bad things about AM5
@@christinaedwards5084 hahah me too... i wont list em all but just one mention of my room right now, i have 4 CPU coolers. ill stop at that.. ok one more 3 Rog strixx boards.. i shoul get those "strong words" tattood to my fore head!
That is great to hear! I actually started this channel when I returned to pc building after a break and wishes there was more info out there for new and returning builders.
Good video all around. If I had just one nit to pick though, I'd point out something in the AM4 platform upgrade section: At most places, a 5700X costs about half the 5800X3D, has a little over half the TDP and better thermals, to the point you can get away with using a stock cooler with it (read: even more savings that can go into a better GPU or a new system later down the line), and there's only a 5 to 15% performance difference, depending on the game. That already makes it the better cost/performance ratio AM4 CPU, but the main reason I write this comment isn't even necessarily about that metric.
Put simply, the AM4 is a legacy platform, already superseded by the AM5 chipset. If someone wants to further upgrade their CPU later, they would have no choice but to switch motherboards, at which point they would be pretty much building a new system from scratch, which makes sinking an extra 150-200 USD into a processor with a limited lifespan in exchange of an average of 10% more FPS a wasteful proposition.
A 5800x3d doesn't run that hot though? I'm using the wraith prism that came with my 3700x and during games my 5800x3d sits around 70c
abouth a month ago i upgraded to i3-12100f with rx 6700 xt, been playing any game in 1440p, im more than pleased with it
I made the mistake of upgrading my CPU thinking it'll open more room for my 2070 super about a year ago. It worked okay for a while but then I could see that it was really stressing my GPU. So when I got the money I upgraded to a 3080 and now my 5900x is ZOOMING and my 3080 is kicking so much ass. This was a great combo for me!
Nice! Thanks for sharing
ehm im usin 3080 + i7 13 700k and its fcking good too + DDR5 32RB RAM :) aaah what a wonderful upgrade for a couple of years :)
I'm currently waiting on my custom build- I9, 4070ti, 32 GB RAM.i can't waittttt
Well it depends on what games and on what setting are you playing. I just got Ryzen 7800X3D paired with 2070 super but I play Fortnite only on competitive settings with 240hz monitor and I don't have bottleneck from my GPU. Still running solid 600-900 FPS. But yes if you are playing other titles where you want to look good instead of squeezing every bit of FPS possible yes it's better to get a better GPU with a slower CPU.
Im using 5950x with rtx 3070 does 5950x handle and feed rtx 4070ti?? I think its last gpu upgrade for me with 5950x 2 more years and will sell that and upgrade whole build. With new AM6 if there will be by then?
Thanks for another boost video, Jason.
About boost story 9, I updated his build for better and extra parts. I upgraded his CPU to a 7900 from a 7700, His ssd would be 1tb WD BLACK 850X and 2tb SOLIDIGM P41 PLUS for 200 CAD instead of a single 2 TB 850X. We've been chatting about the upcoming AMAZON and newegg sale to buy the GPU and the other parts and what should he get first and last.
Edit: The total for this update is 3030 CAD and he doesn't mind that its close to budget limit as long as the sale hits.
I told him to get the psu first considering the psu market and the psu is on sale right now and he just ordered the psu yesterday.
Great Job!! :)
I'm always spending a lot more on the CPU because it's going to see multiple generations of GPUs. Upgrading it requires ditching the motherboard and ram most of the time (thanks intel) so I keep it for 6 years, at the very least. (checking back, it was 2004, 2009, 2015, 2023) January 2023 I got a 13700K, because the added price over the 13600K was worth for the extra cores that are going to carry later on even though today both have similar gaming performance.
Also, the second reason is that you can tweak graphical settings to suit your GPU, but you cannot change the CPU cost of a game, meaning a CPU bottleneck can only be resolved by changing the part, not the settings. When down the line the CPU is limited to 100 fps and there's nothing I can do about it, then that's when I have desire to change it.
Third reason is that GPU performance have much better generational improvement compared to CPUs.
Same. I also play at 1080p so... lol. Also the CPU is useful for other stuff outside of gaming while the GPU isn't as important as it is in gaming. I have a i5 8600 and will upgrade to a r9 7900 or whatever the 8000 series if it's any good. And I will get a rtx 4070 since it's the same price as a 7800xt in my region and that power consumption is so low it's amazing and 12gb vs 16gb isn't a conversation when I play 1080p.
exactly idk why misinformed ppl try to tell others on a budget to get a less powerful cpu to get a better gpu. i.e. 5800x with a 3080 instead of going with something like a 5800x3d with a refurbished or preowned 2060-2070. the 2000 series can still run pretty much every competitive fps game on the market rn at 1080p low at 144fps avg. Yeah youll have a gpu bottleneck but thats easily relieved say in a year when you have enough to actually upgrade to like a 4000 series. Also u wont need to get a new mobo if the new cpu socket changes etc
I thoroughly agree. I think the advice to not invest too much in a CPU and putting that money towards a GPU instead will lead to better performance in that moment. But over the entire lifetime of the build, I really believe in leaving a little headroom CPU-wise to benefit from the more affordable gains that will be available over a few generations of GPU.
I completely agree
You are the MAN for pc builds right now. Every time someone ask for advice I bring them here
Thank you for sharing! We appreciate it
I've listened to your advice and bought the 7600 + 7900 XTX, as I found a really good deal for the 7600 new at only 150 euro after tax (usually is sold at 220 euro, but I bought it with the MSI B650M PRO for 70 euro off). I hope you are right about the combo.
One day in the future I might upgrade CPU to whatever the best price/performance X3D CPU there is.
Best wishes on the build! Let us know how it goes if you can (:
@@PCBuilderChannel hey i have a question, is a 13600KF on B760 3800MHz 32Gigs of ram with a RX7600 is a good pc? or is the GPU bottlenecking the cpu?
@@skakuneu The GPU is heavily bottlenecking that CPU. The Minimum GPU pairing for the 13600k should be the rx 6800 or rtx 4070. But I suggest you get something more like the i5 12400f and an rx 6700xt/rx6800
One thing he didn't mention in otherwise great video is that faster CPU might not give you higher average FPS, but can still give you much better 1% lows smoothing out overall experience much more. While GPU will still render given number of frames on average, smoothest will be much noticed. Remember we don't even notice average that much, what spoils our experience is lows. For same reason 12 or better 16 Gb video card is desired. As 8 Gb card will likely still have good average but terrible lows once VRAM is maxed out.
This is a good point I think alot of benchmark driven analysis ends up overlooking
Sold my PC a few months ago and have had regret since the minute I sold it. Looking to build again and would love to see a $2500-3000 range build!
7800xt seems to be a good sweet spot for all games. While 4070 seems to be better performance to fidelity wise, 7800xt has better performance by the dollar with a better driver overhead to boot. DLSS 3.5 and FSR 3 are also really good upscalers with incredible performance boosts. Would recommend one over the other depending the CPU though for less bottlenecking
Great info as usual. CPU vs. GPU is usually the combination that is the most difficult to measure without actually having the parts. Your advice is much appreciated. Many thanks for taking the guesswork out of fundamental PC building components.
Thanks Firehawk! Yes the combo can be tricky for builders for sure. Hope you enjoy and thanks for watching!
@@PCBuilderChannelI have a 5900x cpu can i use a 7900xt well on it ?
@@yungsneezy20it's a good enough cpu that it won't bottleneck the 7900 xt much unless you play at 1080p. 1440p and higher ur chilling
@@Draconas bet bet !
The motherboard is the most confusing part of it all to me personally...
11:53 instead of the single fan AK400, buying the cheaper AG400 Plus (dual fan single tower) and then swapping out their fans with Scythe Wondersnail is a solid alternative option too for dirt-cheap yet powerful air cooler. My 5800X3D is happy with this config.
I love how you always start each of your "best" videos with the basics so that people who are uninformed can prevent mistakes they could make. Your channel is one of a kind and very newcomer friendly :)
That's great feedback thank you!
Excellent video! These videos always help me to stay informed and make the best build decisions. I may wait for the 14th Gen next season (or whenever it comes out), but if not, I am thinking of going with a Y60 case, 13900k with a Kraken 360 (or AK620), RTX 4090, 64gb Trident (32x2), 2TB wD Black & 8tb Samsung Evo, 1200 Seasonic Gold, and an Asus Apex or Maximus Z790.
With said cooler and some good Lian Li fans, I’m hoping I don’t have to delid/direct die cool… Lots of 4k video editing, moderate gaming (Flight Simulator mostly), photo editing, and maybe some VR.
Recently upgraded from gtx 1070ti and i5 8400 with 16gigs of ram to a 4070 and r5 7600 with 32 gigs ddr5 6000mhz ram. Got an 7k/7k m2 ssd with it too. Really huge upgrade for me since I live in a country thats hard to buy stuff like this. You made me really happy with this video since now I know that I built a great pc. I just need to buy a cooler for my r5 7600 since it can almost boil a water right now with its stock cooler. Gonna pick up that deepcool you suggested, thanks!
same spec in my mind. but i doubt about the VGA 3060 or 3060 TI . 4060 never 4070 price cant match my budget
Good video! Some info I've learnt over the last 20y of gaming/overclocking etc.
1. Select desired resolution and refresh rate.
2. Select games you want to play.
2.1 Identify which games are CPU heavy and which are GPU heavy.
3. Get a quality gold/plat/titanium PSU, even a used one with warranty etc.
4. My understanding is that for gaming, data has to go from your GPU to your RAM before going to the cpu.
If you're using an older CPU or slower ram, a quality ram upgrade can improve GPU to ram to CPU bandwidth / efficiency / reduce latency between those parts. Dual channel, dual rank ram can really help a system give it's all.
+ Remember, that most top combos are Intel-biased.... 7800X3D has the best performance for games (8 X3D cores) bus "suddenly" You must take i7 or i9-14900K... (with many cores... but shitty performance for games) for the top Nvidia card :D
Am an expert. This guy knows was he is talking about.
Good bang for the buck combinations are always interesting and appreciated. Thanks so much.
So glad its helpful! It can be tricky to get the right combos. Thank you for watching!
I've thought about doing CPU upgrade next. A bit hard to choose but it depends on what is limiting and what games/tasks you do on pc.
Well said!
wait but u r a girl y would u be interested in CPU upgrade? u must be using it for heavy math, video rendering, n file compression purposes
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Absolutely awesome videos, your videos are amazingly information dense. I have to go back and rewind many times while taking notes. I was really into PC's building and specs years ago and have been out of the loop for years. I have learned a ton in a very short period of time. Thank you
You got it, so glad we could provide so much helpful info! Thanks for watching.
Intro sounded like a TV ad
RGB budget - $0
Well, this has certainly given me a bunch to think about. I am currently running a Ryzen 5 2600x (32GB 3200 RAM at the moment, got scope to go up to 64GB pretty easily) with a 980Ti 6GB and whilst it manages pretty well on most things that I play at 1080, it is starting to struggle a little with new stuff, especially when I start to ramp up the image quality. I am not planning on moving away from 1080 at the moment as the monitor that I bought a few years back is still an amazing screen and that has a native 1080 resolution. Definitely want to be getting something a little more for when I get into Starfield.
I think i5-13400f/13600k and 3070/4060ti would be a decent upgrade for you :D
I had a similar build and upgraded to a 5800X3D on a B550 Steel Legend board and wow that thing is a beast. Just get an AIO cooler for it because she gets toasty.
@@michaelwatson7249 Fingers crossed, I may have a Lenovo P720 workstation (ex CAD workstation from work) coming my way with a Xeon Silver 4210 in it that should more than outperform my current PC, at least as far as the CPU performance goes, and of not there is space to put another CPU in and (in theory) up to 384GB of RAM (never going to go that high, no need). I will need to check that I can run a decent gfx card in it, the power setup is a little different with everything running through the motherboard. If not, it should be worth enough to sell on and get some good upgrades along the lines if what has been posted here.
@@Almightyrastuswanted to let u know… I had a r5 2600x paired with a 5700xt and it was great, so when the 6800xt came out, I grabbed one refurbished for $280.. well the fps went from 160-180fps max settings… to 250+fps. Oh and that’s with Sam enabled. Mobo is a b450. Lol and now, I think besides going to a 5600x… that system will never have an issue. It’s also for my kid, so he plays lots of Fortnite and gta5 on it, says it does awesome. Best of luck out there dude
Maybe tine tu upgrade for amd 6700 for example, super cheap, goes ok with your cpu and Starfield is now as bonus ;)
God i would legitimately pay gpu prices to be able to ask you a million of my pc questions lmao. Outstanding video (thst im going to rewatch at least a dozen times)
So glad it was helpful!
I've never been one to shell out for the "top" performance available at any given time. So for me it has proven more economical to err on the side of a better CPU over GPU. Been building my own PCs since the 1990s and it has proven pretty reliable that a CPU/MOBO combo will last 5-6 years with one, and possibly two GPU upgrades along with it. That second GPU upgrade often ending up transferred to the next CPU upgrade. The other advantage to this approach is it spreads out the expenses more evenly over time.
This is exactly how I’ve been upgrading my pc’s since the early 2000’s. Plus moving the gpu to a new build keeps the price down vs full new build.
You don't shell out on the "top" performance because you want to be economical lol. That's ridiculous. You do it because you want to be able to run anything on maximum. That's it.
“Stop saying cuss words guys!”😂 but thank you, I love your content and learned so much!
Haha glad you enjoy it! Hope you keep enjoying all the new videos :) learning for the win!
@@PCBuilderChannel Haha thanks! Im currently building a pc and have all the parts besides the fans, so this definitely helped! If you want to know the parts, just comment back! :D
This video helps out a lot. I am currently on Ryzen 5 3600 and was thinking about upgrading it to 5800X3D. This processor gives me the vibes of my old overclocked i5 2500K which suprisingly I used for far, far too long. It was a really good processor
I overclocked a i5-650, a 1 gen intel chip. Took two 5770 gpus in a crossfire cfg and ran it for years. Just now bought a Ryzen R9 7900x with a 6700xt. I needed to upgrade .
@@humansvd3269 I even had 5770, also tried it crossfire as a friend of mine had another one. Great times!
This was such an amazing video. You shared an abundance of knowledge and guided through each price category in such a detailed manner. I was about to make a mistake while getting the parts for my first pc build, but thanks to your guide, I'll have a rather easy time selecting the components. Thank you so much.
Happy to hear it, this is why we do it! Congrats on the learning and good luck with the build :)
In the middle of something and listening to this... This is the type of video "you didn't know you needed" gold. Chipping in for that reason.
So glad its helpful!
Picked up a brand new 7900X during a Flash sale for 348 dollars shipped. Absolutely loving it so far. I did have to go into BIOS and lower core voltage as it was crazy high out of the box.
What mobo are you using?
Great video Jason! I never believed in the over buy your CPU "future proof" concept. It would be awesome if you filmed a step by step build guide for the budget an mid-tier PC's. It would be a huge benefit to new builders.
We've already got you! We got build guide galore for 5600, 12100, and theres a 5500 in our latest Best Build for June video. See the "builds and parts" list in the description for all of them
@@PCBuilderChannel Maybe it's just me, but I'm having a hard time finding the "build guides" that you mentioned would be in the description. I'm not seeing anything listed as a "builds and parts" list in the description, either.
Upper midrange: Ryzen 7 5800 with a Gigabyte Tomahawk B550 MOBO with a 3060 GPU is a great combo on the AM4 socket with DDR4 RAM. When you start getting into the AM5 sockets, DDR5 Rams things can quickly get pricey. Just have to spend a bit more on a better cooler since the 5800 runs a bit hot.
Always good to see other people who think about things like this when planning a build. My biggest issue is usually always building in a case that is limiting to gpu length(I have a love for micro atx/mini itx mobos and tiny cases fit for htpc's). It does provide me with a unique barrier that I can either wait to overcome with newer gpu models or to find a slightly different case to be able to upgrade my gpu when necessary.
I bought the i5 13500 for $209 when it went on sale. For that price I think it's worth strong consideration.
yes good play
I got a "bad" combo too but I'm fine with it. 5800X3D with a 6750XT. That card is bang for buck the best available in my opinion and suits my needs. However my CPU will last long enough to get a newer equivalent in a few years and this GPU will still be interestng enough to sell. I know, I know, you said it in the video. I just refuse to pay current prices to get a bit "better" while this card performs way above its competitors in its pricerange. Very happy with the performance
Thats a great combo! I wouldn't mess with it unless you are unhappy with your performance for some reason
That's a great combo. Why would you think it was bad? The benchmarks on that combo are through the roof. Good choice.
It's a great combo because the CPU is so fast compared to the GPU. This allows you to upgrade the GPU after a few years. Then you can do yet another GPU upgrade after another few years. The 5800X3D will handle it. However, if you bought a more balanced combo like a 5600 which most people do then it probably will keep up with future GPU upgrades. People don't think about future GPU upgrades when they buy a CPU.
@@Gr8FriknApe Because the CPU can handle a much better card, but yeah, I like the performance. No complaints there, it plays everything I throw at it with ease
@@MarkLikesCoffee860 Yes that's the plan ;-)
Thank you for the bit on "future proofing." I have had to explain to so many friends and colleagues that unless you are going for an enthusiast build, get the concept of future proofing out of your head. Even at the enthusiast end, you are playing with fire as occasionally the next gen simply outshines previous gens by a lot (last time we truly saw this was with Pascal, GPU and the OG Ryzen release, CPU).
Exactly! Glad you enjoyed this one. And thank you for watching!
Currenty running an AMD 5900X, 7900 XTX, Gigabyte X570 Gaming X, 64GB DDR4 3600 CL18 ram on a Corsair RM850 PS. Case is a NZXT H5 Flow RGB and the cooler is a DeepCool LT520. Monitor is a 32" Asus 1440p, 170Hz VA panel
I have a 4070ti and a 5600x. I've been thinking of getting a 5800x3d for gaming but the 7800x3d seems really interesting. But that would require a whole pc overhaul.
Go for the 5800x3d
7800X3D would be overkill with that GPU and you'd have to upgrade the full plan. I'd go 5800X3D personally
@@PCBuilderChannel yeah I kind of agree. Thanks to both you and the guy above!!
if you're not playing in 1080p there's no reason to do so
7700/7700x .
5950X and 6950XT. Took me a while to be able to afford both but now I have and very happy with the result. Amazing combo both for gaming and productivity. I won't be upgrading to new AMD platform for a long while yet.
Hi - say you had a 6950xt with a Ryzen 5 7600x how would that run?
@stevenbowen23 Should work well. Enabled re-size bar in your bios will also give you AMD's smart access memory included with Radeon software👍
@@VimyScout thank you, appreciate the reply.
When I build a PC once every 10 years I always use 30-40% budget on CPU to ensure it will last 10 years or so. The GPU goes out of fashion/burns up faster and needs replacement every 3 years so I tend to not use up too much budget on it.
Probably wasn't the case 6 months ago but the i7-12700f is currently priced at 260 at some retailers and it's a great CPU for gaming and production. Got mine paired with an RTX 4070 and it's an excellent system.
That's a very interesting and informative video, thank you.
I'm sticking to AM4 for a while, so the 5700X is the one for me for the mid to high end range.
Due to my 75Hz 1080p monitor, I'm going for the 6600XT right now. Might get the 700+ version of the 8000 AMD GPU generation or its NVidia/Intel equivalent since a 1440p 120+Hz monitor is too expensive for me today. I gues we don't talk enough about "monitor bottleneck" haha
All things considered, might not move to AM5 DDR5 chipset for good years, probably until it gets reasonably cheaper as DDR4 did in the past compared to its previous generation.
thing is good ones usually either big sized, high reso, or high refresh rate
as for quality its rather hard since best situation would be seeing/ watching your usual contents with the preferred leds, some shops at e-malls usually do this, some dont
I agree with you on future proofing cpu/gpu. If you find yourself down this trap you got to ask yourself if you really will do a single component upgrade in a year or two. Most people don't, they just use the system as is until other limitations start becoming an issue for them, and at that point they'll look at doing an entire system again because everything at that point is old tech and its time to look at the system as a whole, hopefully without falling into the future proofing trap once again.
Totally understand that thinking. I've been keeping up with rebuilds on my current rig for over 10 years now (chuckles). One or two fans here, a cpu there, a new psu, a new heat sink, a new motherboard, updated RAM, header splitters to add new radio tech and keep my DVD/CD devices running, not to mention new M.2, SSDs and HDDs to handle all my games, videos and music (6 drives and one external). The tower case is getting crowded LOL.
Yeah, since 30 years my pc is a continuous upgrade path, never bought a single whole computer, excepting the first one 30 years ago!
Amazing video! Everyone building a PC should see this.
Thank you!
I know NOTHING about PC's but you were able to explain it easy to understand ways. SUBSCRIBED
I am rocking an i7-13700 and a 4070 Ti, but on DDR4, it's a bit pointless for me to update to DDR5 as of yet, but I do feel like it'll be a huge upgrade to the overall stability of the system. Maybe once the B760 boards fall in price a bit more I'll make the switch, but I am overall happy with what I have. Not going to go for a Z-type board as the CPU can't be overclocked anyway.
Regardless, great video and keep up the good work!
I was thinking about the same for the RAM but next gen will be totally DDR5, that means next time you upgrade you'll need to change ram, motherboard that support that ddr5 and ofc the cpu. In some months i'm flying to usa to get me that i7, a 4080 and some ddr5 6000mhz and just forget about it for a couple of years.
Great watch👍 This series was invaluable to me building my 5600/6700XT build in January 2023🤩
Your advice from last year has aged really well as new options just aren't compelling in price/performance and the step up to a used Sapphire Nitro 6700XT has come in clutch with the 12GB of VRAM.
Also gotta shout-out the power supply tier list you reference, got me a great Cooler Master 650 V2 on sale because of that.
Cheers!
That is so great to hear! Thank you for letting us know. Congrats on your build and very glad we could help!
How many can u play in your pc?
What would be the issue with pairing a 7800xt with a 7800X3D?
I’d like to build a PC now and buy the 7900xtx when it falls in price with the next generation release. For now just building the PC to be overbuilt with the 7800xt for now to save the $450.
This right here. I’ve been looking for something like this. Outstanding!!!!
Went a bit overboard with my latest upgrade and switched to a 4090 in combination with a 7800x3d, B650 mb and DDR-5 6000Mhz ram (16x2). The total cost was around $1530 after selling my previous parts ( CPU, GPU, MB, RAM). I feel these specs should be good for at least 5 years (gaming at 1440p/2160p at 165 fps).
That's a great combo you got there!
So now with the 7800xt out, what would you recommend/change in the video?
I am thinking of upgrading my Ryzen 5 2600x to a 7800x3d and was planning to buy the 7800xt. After the video that sounds like an overkill. Would you recommend to go for a 7900xt instead and get the 7600 CPU?
The 7800xt looks to be pretty solid and the upgrade from my current CPU should boost my system by a huge amount i guess? Most of the titles I play are not too heavy (WoW, Valheim, Witcher) but want to get into more gaming with current titles, which will probably tempt me to upgrade my 1080p monitor to a 1440p.
Would be happy if you have a recommendation for me what, in your opinion, the smart thing to do would be.
I think future proofing can still be done, just not with performance. Choosing for example to go on am5 platform when it's new, means in 4 years, you'll have a cheaper second hand high end cpu for cheap (generally). I lucked out jumping onto am4 in 2017, allowing me to upgrade from r5 1400 to r5 5600 without needing to chance motherboard or other stuff, granted am4 was supported far longer than planned.
I Fr wish ppl would see Australian prices for cpu’s and gpu’s
Sending good wishes for lower prices!
Great video! Recently got myself a Ryzen 5600 and a RX 6600 XT for 1080p gaming, and so far it has been working pretty well. I just wanted to add that the Wraith Stealth that comes whit the Ryzen 5600 is not good at all. Tried it for a bit and was getting temps close to 90 C while gaming, the good thing is that a cheap Gammaxx 400 v2 solved that problem.
Got the same one but mine doesn't make any sound enough to turn on stealth feature yet.
I just ordered the parts for my first build and included the 12400f as my CPU. I agonized for quite awhile on the right budget motherboard to get, and finally chose the Aorus Pro. It is such a relief to see it recommended here! Thank you you've given me peace of mind haha!
To anyone who reads this: CPU vs GPU is THE talk but don't forget about your RAM. In my experience as the "go-to-tech-guy" in my circle of family/friend, the one thing that bottlenecks most system is the ram. Honestly, people cheap out on it so much because it isn't as flashy or expensive as other parts but it's such an important part of your pc's performance... and the great thing is you can go completely overkill with it for a very affordable price. You can easily get 32 or 64gb of RAM for sub $200 if you aren't too picky about specs you probably won't ever understand nor need to. RAM is used in gaming but also for productivity and it's an awesome way to prolong your system's life if you are tight.
Also, while I agree with the general statement in the video, know that there are huuuuge gaps money wise between tiers for GPUs. So while it's true that it's better to maximize efficiency and not have too much bottlenecking, it's better to get a strong CPU than a weaker one as it's not as easily upgraded. Swapping a GPU is just easy, plug the old one out, the new one in and it's done. CPU, not so much. You might have to litterally scrap your entire build because of new sockets and the likes. Please be mindful of that. If you are tight at the moment and have to build yourself a pc, consider getting a stronger CPU and a weaker GPU.
I just built my first PC, upgraded from a Lenovo Legion I bought in 2018. I paired a 7800x3d and GeForce 4070 super and have had zero complaints thus far.
I got a really good deal on the 4070 super on Newegg, and through my research people have been saying that the 7800x3d would be more than capable of handling a GPU upgrade at some point. Curious about more experienced builders opinions though.
7800X3d is the best current Gaming CPU out there. It can absolutely handle a 4090
HU did a part last year I think and showed that usually you can't tell the difference between Ultra and High (depending on the game (what the difference levels are for said game)) If you look at benchmarks and the says 57FPS on ultra you might get 10 more or 20 more FPS going from Ultra to High.
bro just said: have a RTX 3050, it cant get worse after this
ok it got worse
I paired a 13900k with a 4090 2 months ago. The simple reason, Green+Blue was the best combo for me for many Years now.
Thanks for your work, I was worried because I bought a R7 5700x with a RTX 4070, and I thought it was a very bad combo for bottleneck things and all, so I'm slighty reassured! But next time I'm upgrading my pc, I'll make myself sure to check your videos before committing any error!
Happy to help! That's a fine combo.
I’m getting this exact combo, so glad to see.
Got the 7800x3d with XPG Lancer 6000 cl30 and 3080Ti and couldn't be happier.
Absolute beast.
This information is so helpful, please keep it up!
Can you make a vid about what to do with old parts? Best ways to sell them?
Also, what GPUs would start being bottlenecked by a 17-9700?
in my 3 years of learning about pc building and pc stuff...i didnt know a channel like this existed...its simple...to the point...and great...love this...u gained one more brother fam...love the content💟.
Thank you so much for the awesome feedback! Truly appreciate it. Hope you keep enjoying the content!
Having a new 5800X3D and still a 2070 S.
I want to upgrade my GPU to the next level and jump up from 1080p to 1440p.
Are AMD´s 6950XT or even 7800XT series cards the better option, or the Nvidia 4070 ?
What concerns me is the lower VRAM on the green site and the much higher power consumption on the red site.
Is it best to pair AMD CPU with AMD GPU then?
Or even any other AMD/NVIDIA model?
Didn't realize I wasn't subscribed, sorry Jason!. I am subscribed now
Thanks for the sub!!
man, I wish I'd found this video when I was doing my build! I went with a ryzen 7 5700x3d + an amd 6700, I've not stress-tested it gaming wise much yet, but it's a huge upgrade over my old A10 + 1080 ti and not too far from your recommend :)
Unbelievably helpful! I never say "awesome". This video was AWESOME!!!!!
Thank you! So glad to hear it (:
I just built a PC for less than £420. Including the ram and a modular PSU. I got a Gigabyte B550M DS3H, Ryzen 5 4600G, XFX RX 580 8gb GTS, and 16gm ram (upgrading to 128gb in march)
Motherboard :- GIGABYTE B450M DS3H
Gpu:- RX 580 8gb
Processor:- AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
Is this build okay?
I have Ryzen 7600x and RTX3050. I upgraded from a i7-7700k in November. What a huge upgrade it was 😅😅. Went from under 60fps in Warzone to over 120fps in 1440p
this Saul Goodman is good.
Better Call PC Builder :)
So, how do you find out what is bottlenecking you currently?
The best way is to turn down your CPU clock by some set percentage (or turning off cpu cores if you want to check if you need more cores) and turning down GPU clock.
After turning down one of the above, measure the drop in performance. The highest drop in performance in whatever you value most (game, software or something else) is your target for upgrading and will give you highest boost later on. So, if turning down CPU affects your preformance the most, you need to upgrade your CPU. If turning down GPU affects the performance - upgrade your GPU.
Don't turn down too much, at some point effects will accumulate and skew the image, turn down 15-30%. There is software to do 'underclocking' of GPU, for CPU a lot of motherboards can do that.
There exists an environment variable in Windows with which you can turn down number of cores as well.
Also, check how much memory are you using - if 100% then maybe you need more RAM.
He's like the Saul Goodman of the PC master race
Better Call PC Builder!
@@PCBuilderChannel HAHAHAHAHAH, thats actually a nice one!
As a PC builder myself i always like to put a more powerfull gpu than cpu when building gaming pc. Nice video.
you give me some "Better Call Saul" Vibes..! you got a new sub!
Thanks so much for the sub! Better Call PC Builder :)
I'm glad you mentioned the 5800X3D upgrade for any Ryzen 1, 2, and 3000 processors! I'm wanting to upgrade soon and I didn't know if my 2600X would be OK
Great content! thanks!
You got it! Glad you enjoyed this video, and thanks for watching!
I am loving these videos, esp two months before Christmas and I am thinking about building my son a desktop gaming rig... Thanks for your advice! New subscriber!
So glad it helpful! Thank you for the sub and welcome to the channel!
I just built a system, on a AM4 platform, I know there are better options, but I don't use this one for gaming. It's for music creation. So I have a Ryzen 7 5800X (that I bought on a discount) and paired with a MSI 6750XT trio GPU, and a Asus B550 Tuf motherboard, also in discount. I use 2 NVMe Seagate Firecuda 2 Tb SSD's and 64Gb DDR4 Fast RAM from Kingston and I have 2 servers for storage, each 108 Tb and via 2,5Gb LAN ports. I'm happy with the setup. And I use Dante for digital audio connections, because I have a radio station going and also a mix and mastering studio. I don't use Apple on the sound machines, because most of the software and automatization runs on Windows. I have an old apple iMAC for compatibility with my iPhone Apps, mostly my agenda app and work lists and administration tasks.
I currently have..
CPU - i3 10105f
Motherboard - H510
GPU - RX6600
Ram - 8x2 16GB 3200mhz
What should I upgrade next in the future? Still gonna do 1080p gaming and some editing work.