Making Vegan Deli Meat that Actually Tastes Good
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- čas přidán 21. 11. 2020
- I recently joined this group on Facebook where they make seitan using the wash that flour method! Now this seitan they are making is some of the best vegan meats I've seen. I recently came across a recipe by Oncle Hu that looked incredible and I knew I had to try it!!
So here is my slightly modified vegan pastrami!! Its amazing!!
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The goal of SauceStache is to continue trying something new, something new to me and something different.
I find inspirations from you the SauceSquad and my constant hunt of social media to see what food is being made around the globe and how can I try to make it. Lets try to make some food and have fun!!
You are amazing and did not deserve how you were treated by Grace Meyer and the admins of their group. You always give credit to the creators and their food. No excuse for how you were treated. Love you and your content!
Just one more reason to never be on Facebook.
I left the group because of how crazy rude she was and became.
@@m1cajah the problem is not Facebook. The problem is narcissists with Facebook pages who arbitrarily ban content that does not suit their egos.
Facebook is like cancer anyway. Leaving 2 years ago was the best decision I ever made.
Who is Grace Meyer?
Just so you know, there are hundreds of comments in the offending post in that group in your defence. Mine included. You always credit the creators, and you do great work. Thanks for the videos!
Thank you so much for that. I don’t know what happened. I really appreciate hearing that. It’s really bothered me what happened there
Was it because he said the name was derogatory?
Lots of people leaving the WTF group and following you and that admin needs to pull her post.. you’re awesome
Been in the group for all of two days. I’m appalled by this. Have watched and enjoyed your videos for the last year since I became vegan, learned a lot and inspired me to experiment a lot. Finally hit the subscribe and bell button. Was looking forward to learning stuff from that group but I’d rather not if it’s run by people like this. And it looks like there’s a mass exodus happening! Too right.
I just got banned for commenting on it and defending you 😆
I brined seitan for 9 days and baked it in a Dutch oven for 3 hours coated in oil. It was a lovely sandwich “meat”
Oh wow!!! I want to try that!! can you send me your method?
@@SauceStache it’s pretty simple. I flavor my seitan with herbs and spices, and wrap the dough in a log form with cheese cloth and butcher’s twine. I boil that for a couple of hours, let it rest, and then brine it. I bake it in a Dutch oven at 275° for three hours, covered liberally with oil.
I love your channel!!! Thanks for all your inspiration, and if this helps inspire you, I’m honored. 💚🌱
@@CriticallySteffany perhaps give this technique a try. Reconstitute dried mushrooms, purée them into a paste. The amount of water I use should just cover the mushrooms in the blender. I also cut back on the amount of vital wheat gluten by using some flax meal. Make sure to add oil and molasses to your dough, that’s important. Have fun 💚🌱
That's awesome! I'd love to get your exact recipe and see a video about it later. Are you going for the taste of a certain type of meat or just that meaty feeling?
@@danny.b3 your method of using molasses sounds pretty interesting! Could you share the recipe and measurements you use to make your seitan dough?
Just want to add another supportive voice from the washed flour seitan group. Admin has been a power tripper from the start and the thread in question is reaching 400 comments in support. The group generally supports your content it's just a couple of admins who are jealous and unhinged lmao
And yet another group has been established exactly because Grace banned Mark. Plus the other groups are chiming in to support him.
@@carolynblakeney966 who is grace?
@max Whitehead
Yesss
Was it the Wash That Flour group?
We love you mark!!! That Facebook group SUCKS. Tons of people just left because of what just happened (including myself) keep up with the good work you’re amazing!!!
Thank you so much So sorry this craziness happened
I got booted for pointing out the admin has a shitty attitude and asking why this guy got booted
@@jaydewhite3612 I got booted too
As someone who's not in the group, I'm curious as to what happened/what went down haha
What happened?? Pls someone explain 🥺
I'm sorry that you're involved in completely unnecessary FB group drama. You are nothing but nice, respectful, and professional. That woman is a complete psycho for making a big deal over this. Great video! Thanks!
Personally I put my seitan in a saucepan when I'm adding the seasonings. The gluten becomes stretchier with the heat so you can add all the spices and if it's too hard to incorporate it well, I also add chickpea flour
Great tips!! thank you
😳 I just got banned from the group for saying that the whole thing with the group admin/creator is level expert petty. Which exactly proves my point. Love you Stache! You're my favorite chef and a class act. Thanks for all you give.
What's the name of the group please?
Hey Mark!!! Just wanted to let you know that you have tons of fans in that Facebook group that banned you for no reason. We support you and that admin was so unnecessarily rude. Keep doing what you’re doing, your recipes are fantastic.
Thank you so much!!! That means so much!
I joined the group today, because of this video. And I've already left after seeing what went on. Unbelievable!
I joined because of this video and am now leaving it because I have no time for unhinged vegans. And before the unhinged vegans comment, I was a vegan for years and am now vegetarian. I know what I'm talking about.
I got kicked out of that group for questioning her post. :(
@@xxAlisonpaige Same here. I've got no time for that kind of drama. It's their loss. Sauce Stache, you are awesome!! Keep up the good work!
This one is by far the best-looking vegan meat I've ever seen. Thank you for making such quality videos :)
Sending cheers from Korea!
Thank you so much!!
There is no meat in that.
@@Joesmith-fu4ps Vegans make their own rules bruh.
@@Joesmith-fu4pscry more about it
@@joeb4142 So does Putin, I don't think much of him either.
That looks AWESOME Mark!!! Deserves to go viral!!🔥🙌
ahhh thank you!!! Fingers crossed!!
Love creatives supporting each other! ❤️
Not sure if you're going to end up reading this, but might as well. If you want your seitan to color beautifully, beetroot powder isn't the way to go, the colour disappears in the cooking process. Use grated/blended raw beetroot instead. Using cooked also doesn't work- you end up losing colour aswell.
Are u his wife Emma because every video I see your comment at the top
😝😊👏👏
You’re my absolute fave man! The admin on that page are tripping. You do you and keep being awesome. The fact that you always shout out people and give credit where it’s due is so wonderful.
Idk anything about the whole Facebook group incident but I just found your YT page a few days ago and am honestly loving your content. I've been a vegetarian for 18 years and have never made my own seitan because I've been too afraid to make one. Your videos is giving the strength to dive in and make one. Thank you for this! I'll definitely be trying out both the kneading and no kneading seitan from your other video.
I’m enjoying your videos! I discovered you when reading about some seitan drama, lol. I missed said drama, but learned there was a “nice” group, joined it, and read about you & Oncle Hu. I tried making seitan waaaay back in the 80’s...I’m so impressed with how things have improved!
Your videos help a lot of people such as myself. Thank you for your work.
I am continually floored by the videos on this channel and the meat substitutes that are created! Fantastic.
Love how excited you get! I’m the same in my vegan kitchen and my kids are my only audience, lol! Lots of “yes, good job Mom...” (and occasional eye rolling)
I was so sad when I knew that you were kicked out :((( I was so happy that you finally found out about the method.
It was crazy, I joined it because of him and and I left because of them making a nonsense drama
I wish this man had a traveling food truck or something, so I can taste his recipes b4 I try to make them myself. I’m not even vegan and have no idea what these things are supposed to taste like but you bloody modern vegans with your cool recipes keep making me want to try things.
Thank you for all your wonderful recipes !
Just found your channel via the weird admin‘s post on the WTF group and already spotted so many cool recipes I wanna try! Your food looks delicious!
You are awesome!!
Every video is always so surprising!
And I really like your positive attitude ☺️, the way you laugh is a mood booster.
Love from Italy!
Thank you sooo much!!!!
I’ve been binging your videos, you’re amazing. Thank you for showing us this. 🤌🏽
You made it look so much simpler thank you! Ive been wanting to try this to make my own meat for a while but all the recipes have looked a bit scary. This makes so much more sense!
I just went full vegan two months ago and have been buying impossible paties and all things vegan. Very excited I found your video. Recipe looks great, will make this week. Thank you.
Idk why those FB ppl were so rude to you. You seem like a genuinely nice person and me and lots of other ppl really like and appreciate your videos. I learned a lot from watching your channel I love all your experiments. There are also other seitan and washed flour groups on FB that are not mental. Good work! 💚
Hugs Mark, that lady was way out of line. You were doing her a favour and I still can't work out what she was upset about. So many joined the group after your comment (like me) and so many defended you and got booted (like me, but I was in the process of leaving anyway). Hopefully we could ask Oncle Hu if he had any more recipes and if he could share them on 'The Washed Flour and Other Seitan Recipes and Methods'. Nicer name and MUCH nicer admins. Can't wait to make this and the Swiss cheese recipe. Keep up the great content. AND BTW, I'm a convert to mushroom powder!!!
Great job Mark! Keep up with good work! Proud of you.
I came here after the post in the FB group. All I can say was that was odd af and now you have gained a new subscriber. Looking forward to binge watching all your videos!!!
Love the WTF method! Brings back many a memory of making seitan when I was younger before we knew of (or could find) gluten flour.
It comes out so good... and its fun hahah
@@SauceStache Kinda like how kids love "slime"! Probably a few anal folks who freak out over the washing. ;)
Thank you for your recipes!
Love the channel. Thanks for doing what you do 🙌
Been a member of that group for almost a year now, just left and have subscribed to you. Pretty certain about 95% of the members of the group vocalised that the way the admins acted was completely out of line. Full support to you, looking forward to your videos from here on out!
Got kicked out the group for just saying, I can't understand all the trouble. Now you've got one more subscriber. :D
Keep making awesome recipes Sauce Stache❤️
I love your creative cooking, it's so much fun to watch! I have to try this for sure!
I love your recipes, I can't wait to try it
Thank you!!! I can't wait for you to try either!!
Hey love u mark don’t listen to grace Meyer you did nothing wrong and I’ve been dying to try this recipe form the group and so glad you were able to show it in video so helpful and looks so good thank you!!
I love your channel!! Gone in a great direction & your creations are so cooool!
Love all of your videos
I asked Grace why she made such a big deal out of the situation when you clearly credited Oncle Hu and group and she kicked me out of it haha. seriously thanks for this video, I sometimes struggle with doing seitan just from a recipe. So thank you for making a video, it helps a lot!
Seems like her name didn't have much influence in her life.
I’ve watched since before Daym, and you’ve really come far! Nice job man!
Wow thats awesome!! Thank you so much!!
Mmmmmmmm..... looks delicious! Can't wait to try this recipe, thanks for sharing it with us 😊😋👍
OMG, this is awesome, you are amazing!! Thank you so much for sharing this....
Grace Meyer is in no way a representation of all the vegans. The members of that group inc. me actually support you and are on your side.
Absolutely crazy! Just logged on and saw the angry post. You did nothing wrong. So many people standing behind you though!
That this-is-so-tasty chuckle gets me every time
I love it when you laugh happy about the results!
You should join the group "The Washed Flour and Other Seitan Recipes and Methods"! They're great and really nice!
I'm going to join that group now!!
Thanks for sharing the group name. I too am off to join.
Ooh, me too. Will move groups now! That was NOT nice what happened tonight
Thanks for sharing, have just requested to join. They're going to wonder why they're suddenly getting loads of join requests 😆
Dude, make a link to that group when you show the screen with the other group on camera! Cause she deserves it! Also sent a request to the other wtf group, don't want a dictator as an admin.
I've said it once before, and I'll say it again.
My brother in law is a vegan, and watching your show gives me wonderful insight into what he might eat. I am a meat lover, but i always find these vegan recipes to be rather fascinating. So much you can do with plant based proteins!
If you're already interested, try it! Instead of being a meat lover, be an animal lover. What you call meat is the flesh of someone who didn't volunteer for your meal. Get with your bro and make it together 😊
That's very cool of you to have an open mind about his veganism. I'm sure he appreciates it. I know I do with my friends and family who are cool about it.
Im also looking into this stuff, Im trying to go vegan later this year.
My problem is how pretentious "vegans" tend to be. Let alone "vegan" dishes. Just make food. If you need to make a substitution then it isn't the same dish. I also have the same problem with turkey bacon. Absolute crap pretending to be something it can never be.
@@vagabondwastrel2361 then why are you on a vegan recipe channel??? Youre calling vegans pretentious, while youre gatekeeping food.
@Sauce Stache You are total awesome!
Love your vids so creative and positive
i'm making that stuff and keeping it raw next halloween, to use for my costume
hahaha yes!! I bet it would be perfect for that hahaha
yea, it looks like raw chicken to me, gag. But it would be great for some kind of awful, demented mask .
@@SauceStache mind you, the end result looks incredible, and i'm not even vegan :D seriously considering trying this
@@sarahdee374 raw chicken, but on steroids :D
Your time to create this costume has come
Well, I didn’t know about your channel prior to WTF group drama but looks great so I rather subscribe here and leave the drama group 🤷🏼♀️
Thank you!! So sorry for the drama! Still have no idea what happened!
@@SauceStache I wouldn't worry too much about it, friend. I've been in the group since earlier this year and that one admin has always been really rude to people. Honestly, at the moment that (super random) post has 627 comments, and as far as I can see every single comment made in there is being just as confused as you are, being angry and demanding she apologise to you because this is so bizarre and unnecessary, or just generally in support of you.
Just so you know! You're actually very loved in there :) Don't spend too much time worrying about what happened... It's just literally 1 or 2 women who were already like this and tons of people leaving because this was the last straw.
Hope you're doing well! Can't wait for more videos!
@@SauceStache PS that's 627 comments of the ones tht HAVEN'T been deleted! So definitely there's a lottttt more. My comment got deleted within a minute or two, and it was literally saying "whoa, as far as i can see this guy went above and beyond to give credit where credit's due- I honestly don't see the issue!"
@@SauceStache we neither - there are so many rational comments asking for what her actual problem is - cause you are behaving of perfect manners.
Perfect crediting, useful and idiot proof recipes, Grace got no effin reason to bully you out!
This looks phenomenal! Can’t wait to try this method
I love watching your videos. They are so creative!
Thank you so much!
Love your laugh of success!! At 5:40 😂😇
I love your perfect credit etiquette and sharing amazing recipes, and then seeing what you create from them when you get to wondering about the technique drawing from what you've learned and created previously. Your channel is bangin'. Love me some delicious vegan fare.
Thank you!!! I really appreciate that!!
Saw this. Tried it. Love it! Thank you bunches!! 💜💜💙💙💜💜
Omg it looks amazing!! 😍 Thanks for this video! 💚 I’ve always just enjoyed watching you create all these good looking vegan meats and cheeses and I think I’m actually gonna try making this one, finally. Wish me luck 😁
Thank you so much!! Thats so awesome! I cant wait for you to try it!!
Gotta say I’m here after seeing the post in the group... i’m leaving and joining the group mentioned in another comment by Miduchalan1
Thank you for swinging by!! I have no idea what happend!
@@SauceStache Grace has always been rude, i’m just not quite sure what the issue is here when you gave perfect credit to the group and Oncle🤷♀️ whatever the issue, losing that toxic group was no big loss to be honest. I’ve been in it since April and it’s been horrible to be honest so glad to have been recommended a different group!
@@hazybones8407 what is the name of the other group?
@@apope2662 The Washed Flour and other Seitan Recipes and Methods
@@hazybones8407 thanks!
OMG!!! I have to try this.
It's so good!
I'm so excited to try this
You blow me away every single time! Idk how you do it man
It’s pretty funny how everyone is leaving that mangled brain group and joining the other “friendlier” flour washing seitan group and this whole event is now known as Sauce Stache-gate 🤣🤣🤣😂😂
Ridiculous drama i never thought I’d see on a food group! Stache is a nice dude. That admin is TRIPPIN
I just realized she kicked me out of her group :D :D :D
I dunno, this lead me join every offensively named Seitan group on FB so I guess there's two kinds of vegans
What was it called lol
can u fill me in with what happened? everyones just talking about it without context and i feel left out lol
I am concerned about what will happen to this video. Please don't delete it because of the drama from that weirdo. I follow your videos way more often than that page. She was super ugly to me too. Just unstable I guess. I guarantee every single person that requested membership yes because of you will be leaving. Keep making these amazing videos. The content is always what I hope for and well made. Love your wonderful personality and when you have your wife taste test. One of my favorite videos was the burger with your dad. Have a wonderful day, sir.
I’m so so soooo excited to try this!!!
This looks great! ❤
The lady running that Facebook group is KRAZY!!! She even has a cat name “satan” 🤣 Anywho I am so glad so much drama was created over this video because it brought me here!!!! All your videos look awesome and I can’t wait to start adding some of these recipes to my life!! I definitely needed this visual on how to make this recipe so thank you for this video!!!
I'm so sorry about the way the admins of the WTF group responded to you praising them. I saw the post and was baffled by that behavior. Well, I'm banned too now but I'm glad my comment recommending everyone to go subscribe to your channel and like your videos got a few likes and comments before I was booted! You definitely deserve the love!
I was just banned too!
@@cmugurl2840 me too!
Didn't realise how unhinged and vicious she is...
@@lucytelfer6200 right? And I saw recently she was sayin if you ask for a recipe or spices that were used from a post you’d be banned too!
Genuinely wondering if she is having some sort of neuroses or breakdown. I know it's difficult to admit when you made a mistake, but the original post seems to be a genuine mistake/ misunderstanding which she has then turned into a big old s***-storm for no reason. Not a normal reaction from an even partly balanced individual at all. Very odd.
@@cmugurl2840 I saw that and thought how strange! A stern reminder or even a temporary mute at a push, but a ban? Really?! 🤷♀️
Definitely going to try this one. Thanks!
Amazing!!! This looks so delicious🤩
OMG I bet this method would work great to make vegan corned beef! Can you imagine it?? I love a good deli style Reuben sandwich. Yum, yum, yum!
Anyone who isn’t part of that Facebook group he gave credit to: read the comments here before joining!!! The admin was super rude about him using a recipe from the group and has been banning people for defending him.
What is the name of that FB group - I can't find it when I search. Thanks
@@jammiebrown7709looks like they made the group private and unsearchable!
Your channel is gonna blow up soon! Love your content!
that looks awesome mark!!!deserves to go viral!!
Once you hear the laugh, that’s when you know he nailed it 😂
Wow, imagine with all that's happening in the US of A that folks are angrily passionate about making seitan? Love ya Mark, later gater.
Thank you for sharing this! 😊
This looks so good. Can't wait to try it
I've been making wtf method of seitan since this Spring (though I did make it in about '95 with results that tasted like dog food, ha).
I'm SO sorry that the admin of Mangled Brains did what she did. She has quite the ego.
Here is the method I used for pastrami (copied from the group):
Vegan pastrami!
I think I'm going to marinate it!
I just make a huge (1600 grams, over 3 lbs) dough ball of all purpose flour with salt. Washed it a few hours later, let it rest while I gathered pastrami seasonings. I knotted it up, then I steamed it in soy sauce, Worcestershire, smoked salt, mesquite liquid smoke, brown sugar and water, adding up to 2 cups of water in my Instapot.
Then I fried it in my skillet, and then put what was left of the 2 cups and simmered. Sliced thinly with my food slicer after it cooled.
Then I marinated it with soy sauce, vegan Pampa brand Worcestershire sauce (cheap and good), brown sugar, smiled hickory salt, mesquite liquid smoke, a little red yeast rice powder, black pepper, and olive oil.
Based on the recipe from the Seitan and Beyond cookbook.
I mixed in the red food coloring after adding most of the water to the dough.
I'm trying this for christmas. Wish me luck
how did it go
Looks bloody gorgeous !!
Omg totally making this!!! 👌gracias
This is awesome :D Honestly, I've been so scared to try WTF seitan but it absolutely seems to be worth it! the texture seems so much better than the VWG one! And actually, not that hard to make, which is very surprising ;D I'll only wait for your next video so that I have sth to do with that starchy water! 2:40 100% representative of the group name XD
Sending you all the good vibes!
Stay safe and have a great week ahead!
ITs soooooo good!! You should totally try it!! Let me know if you do!
hahah and I know that name hahah omg its too funny
Hi Mark-
I couldn’t believe the s**t that went down in that FB group. It’s beyond ridiculous and you didn’t deserve any of it. The silver lining is that I’m a subscriber to your CZcams page now though!
Great video, thank you for this.
Oooh! Im experimenting with seitan at home. Thanks for sharing!
The Facebook group sucks! I joined the group today because of this post. Couldn't believe how they acted towards you and expressed it!! Haha I then was kicked out the group! Okay with me because I was leaving regardless! Haha they are lunatics!!
it's seriously just the admin and like 3 of her friends - the entire rest of the group felt exactly the same way you did - so weird to watch grace sink her own group like this for no reason!
@@phoebeayscough4762 is it weird, though? She’s always super snarky. I was just waiting for her to double-down like the admin of the vegan instant pot group did, and Grace did not disappoint. She’s been very mean to lots of people in her groups and she never, ever apologizes. Nastiest old vegan I’ve come across. She makes us all look bad. I just wish I’d been able to delete my content before she kicked me out.
@@kimber5751 yeah, I mean, I agree, she's always been hostile and mean, but I guess I didn't think she would be this openly and irrationally adversarial over literally nothing - like, there's no possible justification for her behaviour here, and just booting hundreds of members for pointing this out seems unusually bananas even for her lol
@@kimber5751 She got booted from another seitan group for her nasties. She has always had this "I am holy" attitude.
She is not sinking that bad. She has only lost a couple hundred but from the time he made this video showing the group. Her group shows 7.6k followers
@@phoebeayscough4762 Her "friends" are actually her on her fake accounts. She's notorious for them.
I'm in that group! It's very interesting!
Its soooo wild!! The stuff they make is incredible
as someone in the group, i was super shocked to see she kicked you. uncalled for and extremely rude. im so glad your sharing your success with the method on here! i love it
Wow that looks amazing
So last night was fun! 😂 I’ve also been banned from that group calling out the nonsense. Thank you for your videos they are so informative and inspiring ❤️ It’s appreciated x
Anyone else look up how much deli slicers are after this one?
Hahaha
I'm inspired to try this method. We have been craving some sandwiches and this looks delicious!
I briefly joined the group you mentioned earlier but to my disappointment one of the admins is a miserable person with nothing nice to say to anybody. I did not appreciate the way that she spoke of you when you've done nothing wrong. I really enjoy your videos and I find it very helpful being that I'm new to this kind of lifestyle. I really hope you will continue with these videos. I'm so sorry that that woman and her minions had nothing nice to say.
Today I have tried it for the first time wit some different seasoning.....it is absolutely great ! Believe me, I will continue to find the best result for me ! Thanks a lot for the inspiration 🙃👍👍👍👍
Found you as the result of that psycho admin's confusing upset. I'm excited to explore your little corner of the internet!
It looks so good... Thank you.
Mind blowing! Amazing 🙏