The Chronicled Wish: How good (or Bad) is this banner?

How good is the Chronicled Wish? A lot of people are quite negative negative about it, but I'll try my best to give an unbiased take. There are many indeed many things to be disappointed about, but it's not all doomposting.
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[@arcazure9610]

3:23: I overlooked that Shenhe actually hasn't run 3 times yet, so she needs a rerun before she can be put on the chronicled wish. So safe to say, she won't appear on the banner anytime soon. Other than that, everybody else before sumeru is clear

[@Ren_rz]

I like your sound analysis 👍👍 nicely done
Now for the banner not using standard fates, i think it's because for the most part the banner will be mostly focused for limited time characters
And the odd 4 stars rooster I think the baber is following a Mondstadt only theme whether it continues or not is unknown but it would be interesting to have a banner follow a set theme like having weapons and characters specific to a nation.
Also i wanted to ask since you brought it up but like is it mentioned in the notes that there won't be a second chronicle banner for the second half of the patch?

[@arcazure9610]

Yeah, there's nothing for the second phase. Unless I've been taking in misinformation the whole time, which would really hurt me.

[@Glirion__]

It's OP as hell:
I put Eula as my target, got Klee at 70 wishes, Eula at 90 wishes, and then targeted Mona and got her after Eula at 110 wishes 🎉

[@BorisKashirin]

For comparison with weapon banner, if you want something specific its 93 on chronicle vs 105 on weapon banner on average. Win foe whales, but for f2p/low spender wait weapon banner with 2 good weapon and good 4*, it will be much better value.

[@yumirow7487]

You also have to take into account that the weapon banner gives more 5* to begin with too.

[@harmonialarts]

I like this banner for two reasons:
1. You can finally guarantee a standard banner character and weapon you've actually wanted.
2. Its a better alternative to the weapon banner.
I will be pulling on this banner the moment we get polar star on it because man I hate the weapon banner the most.
More options are good even with all its flaws. Also while it would have been nice to have this banner use acquaint fates, it would have gone against the rules and cause legal trouble because of the presence of limited 5*s. No limited 5* is allowed to be added to the standard banner pool and using standard banner currency would break this rule. It sucks but to be fair both is still converted from primogems anyway.
Also I have a feeling that Archons won't get placed in the chronicled wish simply because of their status as archons. Hopefully I'm wrong but I feel like it would be a disservice to the special status of these characters who have been designed purposefully to be powerful meta defining units. They went back and fixed Zhongli for a reason that no other character has ever achieved no matter how insistent the players have been.

[@arcazure9610]

I wouldn't be too sure about the Archon thing. Sure, it's a valid point to have, but I've been around too long, and seen way too many attempts from fans to make unwritten rules about what hoyo will or won't put on the banners... until they're proven wrong.
Zhongli at least... on paper, would be eligible for the next Chronicled Wish. Whether they actually do that or not is up to them. They did starve out Eula wanters for almost 2 years, so maybe we might get a case where some characters get intentionally excluded, making the fans think they'll never get added, only then to get added the next update. At the very minimum, the rules they've set for eligibility leaves the door open.

[@EternaMidnight]

Tighnari and Dehya were limited but then put on the standard banner though?

[@harmonialarts]

​@@EternaMidnight Their not limited, they got a debut banner and were explicitly made to be added to the standard pool. Having a one time dedicated banner does not equate to being a limited character. Keqing got a banner way back in the day as a filler banner.

[@harmonialarts]

​@@arcazure9610 Then explain why they've been rerunning archons consistently over the last few years if not for their archon status? There is clear favor shown towards Archons and they have consistently been rerun at least two patches after their debut. The only time I can see them add the archons to chronicled wish is when the teyvat chapter is at the khanriah arc.
I mean, this is the same game that REFUSES to rate up Amber, Kaeya and Lisa on the regular character banners! It took a whole new event wish to make them available outside of the standard banner and starglitter shop. They are the rarest 4* constellations for no other reason outside of being the 'starter' characters.

[@arcazure9610]

@@harmonialarts I'm not saying that there's no pattern to character banners and that everything is complete pattern-less chaos. the main reason for the archons rerun 4 patches rule also coincides with the archon story quest part 2 they get. They also used to have a rule early where characters that are featured for events or quests get a rerun, until that stopped I think in 2.8 with Yoimiya.
I just think all of this is speculation at best, if hoyo decide they want to include venti for example into the next chronicled wish, well nobody's really stopping them. I'll just wait and see. I think it's premature to write off the Archons with a grand simple size of... one banner.

[@user-qs7eo7tt6c]

I want EulaaaaaaaAAAAAWWAA

[@Cheap_Tomatoes]

Idk man.. My gacha addiction says this is good