The Genius of Navia in the Archon Quest
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2023
- Alright, if you don't know why I like Navia, or if you don't know why you like Navia, well maybe you do now.
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Navia so far my favorite character as well.
I love how Navia's characterisation is indirect. Unlike with most of the other Genshin cast, we don't have characters and npcs telling the traveler that Navia is brave, bold, emotional, smart, confrontational, etc. We get none of that. We just naturally learn these things while playing through the Archon Quest.
She also had a great balance of being cool while also having strong emotional scenes.
The only thing I wished we got more for was the dinner between Navia and Clorinde. It feels kinda lame that a major character point for both of them was handled off-scene. Like I know, Clorinde helped Navia during the case, but I still don't like how the dinner scene was just told to the traveler. (Granted it would've been low-key awkward if the traveler was there but we've had scenes before through flashbacks where the traveler wasn't present)
Overall, I love how realistic Navia is. She genuinely feels like a character and not a gacha selling device.
Also, love your analysis videos btw.
She is easily the best written and most compelling character in the game so far. I'm glad to see others in the community feel the same way, as I have had many of the same thoughts myself about Navia. Definitely my favorite character hands down now because of how well she is written.
I think what makes Navia work so well in particular is the way her story feels very show don't tell, which hoyo has a tendency of not doing very well, especially with characters like Kokomi
2:47 I love how paimon saw us not able to stand and immediately got concerned,melts me.
I loved how Navia always gave us(the Traveler) credit for our contributions to the investigation, always treating us as an equal and never stealing the glory for herself. If this was an anime, Navia would be best girl!
5:52 - 6:31 Reason Navia is my favorite
About the archetype, Navia is actually the Ojou-sama Shoujo Protagonist Archetype.
From her entire character arc, she does feel a lot like a Shoujo Protagonist. Which is probably why people feel like she doesn't fit into any archetype, because she's the protagonist.
The protagonist in Shoujo stories most likely than not would have a happy and fortunate childhood before suddenly being thrust into an unfortunate situation where she would feel like she's being pressed against a wall (in this case, the death of her father and how nobody would believe her father's innocence). She has trusted companions who will help her (usually from her father, mother or the trusted guardian from her happy childhood), and slowly rise to the top with that.
In Navia's case, her 'top' is proving her father's innocence (which is achieved once they convicted Marcel).
She has the people who are trying to push her down (Marcel) by behaving as if they're doing it for her own good. She also has a misunderstood rival who ended up being by her side (Chlorinde). She doesn't have to have a Male Lead, but she has good emotional lines with the males in the story (Neuvillette). She's strong and stood her ground on what she believed in.
This is why the entire time I play the Archon Quest, I feel like Navia is like a Shoujo Protagonist, and any story pertaining Navia and scenes with Navia makes me feel like reading a shoujo manga starring Navia. Which is like a breath of fresh air because the previous stories star the Traveler... and everybody have to admit that the Traveler is not that strong of a protagonist character wise.
This is also because of her Shoujo Protagonist Archetype. She doesn't feel like just a character. She's the protagonist. In fact she's the first character that is a protagonist in her own archetype. I'd say even the travelers don't feel anything like a protagonist like Navia does.
Even if she doesn't have an important roll in the rest of the archon quest it's ok for me. She was absoluterly the protagonist of the second part of this patch story, just like Lyney was of the first. I would be happy to see this too with Neuvillette in the next patch and, of course, with Furina. That said, Navia is by far my greatest priority after this patch. If I have to chose between Furina and Navia, i'm going all in on Navia.
I still hope we're gonna see Navia in the future storyline too, even if in a single small episode. She's absolutely charming in so many ways, it will be a great pity if writers just throw her away from the screen like there was no Navia at all. :D
Navia is what Teppei should've been
Navia is what "alive character" looks like: a character who has and use her right to express every emotion
But that's a big "thank you" to her character arc. What if she didn't have this drama-situation with her father? What if she didn't have any reason to be sad to begin with? - That's the problem with other characters. How will we see "sad" Nilou if she didn't have any reasons to be sad?
When writer needs to show character's personality in a wide range and variety, he needs to give this character situations where these emotions will make sense. But sadly it seems that until Fontaine Genshin's writers knew only how to write a "gag"-stories: the stories where character should always have his "gag" personality and do the same joke again and again and there's no room for changing throughout the story, your character should always be the same. It always bothered me because the story itself doesn't seem to be built this way - it's a "progress" story where each episode should add development to the plot or character. Yet it never happened! Even the main plot barely had any progress until Sumeru (and the progress in Sumeru is... kinda small for everything we've done to get there)
I sure hope Fontaine will give us something good, not only Navia, but other characters and the plot itself... Please, give us another meeting with sibling! And it would be cool if we met her/him in the Fontaine story, not in the Dainsleif chapter. That would be a "plot twist" indeed (as Furina wanted)
The Progrssion is only in World Quest.
So like Kaveh where we see Kaveh Happy. Kaveh Annoyed with Alhaitham. Kaveh too caring for his own good. Kaveh being screwed over.
I think in Sumeru I've seen Kaveh in both his ups and Down.
...It was only at the end of your splendid video that I realised it was created prior to the devastating events of Act V. I miss them everyday 😭
Your analysis was spot-on, I felt so happy and validated that someone else had almost the exact same experience with Navia's introduction and development. Her character writing and voice were so phenomenal, it...ended up changing my lifelong opinion of *an entire colour* (yellow, which I had always highly disliked before).
#1 character & best friend, no competition ♫ ♪
Let's see how fast hoyo can ruin her kit
the geo experience
@@phatbeatz1311tbh Kits weren't the problem with Geo imo.
@@yunuss58the reaction 😢
Simping doesn't need kit
i’m still pulling even if she’s Dehya 2.0, but only because i’m ar 60 and super-endgame. I’ll still be mad ngl
She is blessed with character development in the story too having resolved her father’s case she has changed perspectives and amended relationships.
Have you considered voice acting? You speak with so much personality and intonation, I feel like its worth a shot if you feel like it.
Alhaitham always act within his objective genius personality. This is not really true Kaveh is the testament of this. Kaveh's and Alhaitham's backstories are very interconnected. And Kaveh's character stories shed more light to Alhaitham's character.
While Alhaitham is an objective genius, he values life, individuality, and knows that he can't be that objective. This is why (partially) he keeps Kaveh around. What happened with Kaveh, and Alhaitham, why/how their fallout happened are the testament of Alhaitham not just being an objective genius. You just have to dig a little. ;P
I just really think most people put Genshin characters into boxes.
Kaveh is a naiv idealistic guy who is always unhappy and annoyed with the state of his life. Kaveh is so much more than that, and he has a surprisingly deep character considering the fact that he is a 4*.
No, I disagree Navia have a very ojousama personality archtype.
I skipped all her lines . Because i dont like her design. She looks like a typical waifu bait to me .
Blonde , tall big boobs, blue eyes . Asians love this kinda of girls .
And she is geo .
Plus i also dont like how she is just out there ready to help us all of a sudden, just doesn't feel natural to me .
I feel like she is been forced into the story just to sell her banner
Exactly. Except we kind of needed her in the story. Solving the Disappearances cases basically helped earned us favor with Neuvillette. We just came to Fontaine and had no idea about the Disappearances cases. Navia just helped us get in. And with our Rep I was surprised she helped us.
Also her story in Fobtaine was closed already.
But yes. As a Geo Girl with Big Boobs. She'll have a shite kit with her looks being her selling point.
Clorinde is worst though. Barely any personality. And Big Boobs is the only thing relavent anout her.
Even Mihoyo knows this with her design. A buttoned up shirt that looks like it will burst open from her Big Boobs. And a Color design that naturally directs you at her boobs. (Unlike Navia where I naturally end up looking at her face)
Same with Fischl where her OG Outfit coloring naturally durected you to her Crotch.
Kind of a shallow reason to hate a character, particularly since you skipped all her dialogue....but you do you, i guess...