I COMPLETELY Overlooked This Geo Support | Navia Post-Release Analysis
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Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:39 Serpent spine increases damage taken
1:21 Zhongli's Synergy
6:50 Artifact Sets
9:41 Navia non optimal teams are still good
11:20 Navia's skill hold animation is longer than I expected
12:44 Ningguang
13:44 Geo Traveler
16:55 ER reqs
19:02 Sac Greatsword
21:17 4 skills 1st Rotation
23:52 Check out Jamie's channel
24:22 More about weapons
27:54 Teams and Barbara in Navia-Furina teams
30:42 Noelle and Itto
32:42 More teams I tested
33:53 Synergy with other Geo's
35:38 Closing thoughts
37:49 Outro - Hry
As of the day this video is posted, the abyss has changed to one where the favorable side for Navia (1st side) has a chamber with non-bosses. In order to get the best out of Geo MC, make sure you don't put the meteor right under the enemies, otherwise you can bump them up and make it hard to actually hit them. Try to offset your meteor slightly to the side, and have fun!
Also never play GMC with Furina or you will hate yourself
Navia's getting oneshot by tulpa without John Lee's shield inside bennet ult tho kekw
@@M1ndzor yeah, that's why mitigation units are kinda poggers in this abyss. You can play Hot Rock (solo geo, navi-bennett-xiangling), then the flex unit could be a mitigation unit like dehya, xingqiu, beidou, zhongli. I prefer using dehya (w/ a sac greatsword and tenacity, so that i could have potentially 100% uptime on E + tenacity), because the mitigation is on E, no need to burst. having no zhongli on my account, dehya became my option. ~
I'm a Noelle main, so navia it's good only vs bosses? What is the best Noelle team now?
@@squallleonhart1463 technically you can play both navia and noelle. using noelle to genereate crystall shard and quickswao to navia to using her skill and switch back to noelle. i tried this but somehow need high ER on noelle or i'm having skill issue
"You do more damage when you are not dead"- zajef 2024 absolutely massive quote of life
If you've ever played a healer in an MMO, you'd have that tattooed on your forehead.
“People die when they are killed.”
tell that to the hu tao mains in coop jumping off cliffs when i dare to heal them, and then insulting me in languages that i dont even speak
Kamikaze pilots: 😢
@@pyronado4320 technically they had to be alive to pilot the plane, so it’s still correct. The plane does the damage then the pilot dies.
It's really rare that content creators are so critical of their previous videos and careful with their communication. We all really appreciate it. Keep up the great work!
Tsw
Yeah. These videos are precisely why I enjoy watching Zajeff
If only he was this critical about his obsession with xingqiu, to the point where he stops being objective about meta
Being critical is kinda needed in his case given the amount of heat he receives, especially from places like Reddit.
His self-critic is pretty limited though.
Still, better than non-existent.
IFORGOTTOBURST
He forgor to burst😭
ATTAAAAAACK
Gunbrella warfare I guess
zajef every rotation: nah I'd burst
That vid was HILARIOUS
i'm still voting for National Geographic to be Navia National team
That name is waay too good lmao
NatGeo
How about.. Navional?
Just NatGeo would also work very fine lol
@@yorgisyaifullahrafli332 Navigation
thank you for the support! happy new year and keep up the content in 2024 🥳
p.s you should try elden ring for sure!
Don't worry, he and Nick will play it around the same time which will be this year, surely
@@13r2N copium
i would love to see how he gets wrecked in elden ring but i hope he loves the game
"I've given up on finding a better name than Naviational"
SPINATIONAL!!!
Not my idea, but NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC
Yeah I like Spinational as well.
Navia-Lava. Melted Rock = Lava.
@@ViralwingX Navia x Lawa lets go!
@@user-rm3itr40rnd No!
I love how critical you are of your pre release analysis, and how you take time to apologize for potential miscommunications or things that could have been interpreted in a way you didn't mean. Shows you really care about what you say and how it comes across!
I really appreciate how Zajeff really apologizes about thing he can have judged harshly. It's sincere and makes me trust his judgement quite a lot.
I've got Noelle on Redhorn, Navia on Unforged, Furina and Yelan, and absolutely loved it. Furina and Yelan need minimal field time, and Noelle picks up the slack time that Navia has in her kit while stacking fanfare. AND you can swap to Navia in the middle of Noelle's burst to skill and NA/CA and go back to infused Noelle to pick up more crystallize shards.
I’m enjoying this team too! So flexible and fun
do you battery with yelan and furina on fav or do you manage to get enough energy even if you dont?
@@a.v.y8331personally I am using fav on both Yelan and Furina as it's hard to get Noelle's energy back consistently especially against bosses
@@preshandpereira4035 yeah I'd guess as much, it's 2 80 energy units and 2 60 energy units, and none of them generate a ton of energy - the best you've got is navia's 2 charge skill and you only get 2 charges on yelan if you're C1+
@@a.v.y8331Yelan has a 70 cost burst, not 80
My years of construct placement training with GMC in Ningguang teams is finally paying off. What a time to be alive.
Genuinely been surprised by how fun and decent she is. I pulled her just because i enjoyed her character in the archon quest, but im not really regretting it like i thought i might've.
So far ive mostly been experimenting with her, xl, bennett, ning. Still trying to actually build my ninguang and find a good rotation (one that lets ning use petra to buff xl, and give thrilling tales buff + particles to navia, and gives navia enough time with bennett buff) but it's actually been super fun.
If you're using Ning to buff, then put her in a double hydro, double geo team with Navia and Furina. Put Ning on the new Songs of Days Past set and Prototype Amber. To max out the SoDP buff, everyone in the team will need to have sufficient hp thresholds, meaning 35k+ for the hydro chars and 25k+ for the geos and/or Ning with a healing bonus circlet. Cheers!
She's a lot of fun to play in the new abyss too.
Thanks for these videos, Zajef and the editing team. Hope it helps out many a Navia mains out there
GEO MC IS POG I had my most fun clear today with Navia/GMC/Fischl/Bennett side 1 and Bain-Marie side 2 and I can’t thank ZaChef enough for this cooking!
when you first started testing geo mc on stream i instantly tried it myself and honestly geo mc felt the best as navia's geo partner since i care about energy comfort a lot, with geo mc on fav ive been able to run navia with 0 er substats which is crazy
Navia gonna give you up.
Navia gonna let you down.
Navia gonna turn around and say "Attack!".
Navia finally gave a use case for my unlucky Unforged pulls. With R2, I'm already reaching 3k attack with an ER sands and pyro resonance before Bennett's burst, his Noblesse set or Zhongli's Millelith set.
Unforged scales a lot better without other external atk buffs like Bennett or TTDS so you might consider playing non benett teams and look for other options that give you dmg bonus if you don't like bennett
@@prastal The difference between performance between R5 Serpent's Spine and R2 Unforged even in a Bennett team is rather small because of the ER sands that I like a lot for the consistency in solo geo teams. If I had any of the crit 5 stars I'd obviously run those, but the Unforged works surprisingly well. The full passive is pretty much always up for hold E's thanks to crystallise.
I love these videos, Zajef. Please keep it up and keep it going 'til the end of time because I always watch your content!
Congrats on the 100K Zajef!! Well deserved.
I'm glad to hear that you've taken a step back and apologized for the way you frame characters viability in teams. It's been an issue I've had with your analysis for awhile. That the flexibility of a character to fit well into a team that isn't necessarily their TOP team but still create a team that is really good is an important aspect for many players. From a purely meta perspective it allows you to alter your team to content. From a player enjoyment perspective I think it matters to a lot of people to add a bit of spice to what can inevitably become extremely repetitive and boring gameplay.
👏👏👏 well said
Just say you hate Bennett and move on. If Navia is DEF scale she would be tied to Gorou anyway and stay over there if you don't pull Xianyun for Xiao
Agreed, I was kinda miffed at how tazer and stuff was handwaved and ignored last vid since my furina was in other teams and I'd not use xl.
and still everytime i see any streamer play Navia they use only Xiangling/Bennett, sometimes with Furina (if they have C2). in reality her teambuilding is pretty limited.
Geo traveler gives resistence to interruption after his burst which was surprisingly good for navia in spiral abyss 😲
Happy New Year and congrats on 100k subs!
Waiting for zajef to call the national team national geo graphic
14:01 is meant to be C2 Ningg
Hot rock? Cmon... 2nd petition for Navia Xangling Bennett (Geo) to be called National Geographic.
TRUE
That's really good, but... "FIRE! Well, with Rocks!"
If we add Xingqiu/Yelan/Furina should it be called "Sauna" or "Rocky Steamboat"?
I hope Clorinde works with Navia or double Geo (Zhongli, Albedo) just so we can call her team "Rock around the Glock".
CONGRATS 100K ZAJEF
I have huge respect for Zajeff doing this post-release format where he reviews his own video. I wish more people did it because I think it's so insightful and important to elaborate on the evolution of your thoughts on a characters and also to be able to fix your past misconceptions in a very clear way. Although your takes are generally well thought out it still takes courage to evaluate yourself, especially publicly.
I feel like Albedo is very underrated , i use him on my team (Navia , bennet , raiden shogun , Albedo) and he can actually provide the 6 stack very quickly when Navia doesn't have burst up. Even though the increase EM from Albedo burst doesn't seem that significant but it's still can increase the shield strength which mean you less likely to take tons of damage and his skill also deal more damage when enemy are below 50% hp , since he is geo mean he can generate Energy for Navia very easy and also get access to geo resonant.
I agree. Idk why everyone is saying albedo is only ok with Navia when in fact they synergise so well
Congrats on 100k!
One of the few units I haven't pulled that I was actually excited for a post release
I have been using niangguang with navia the most and it feels good. Just need more cons and build her up more
Thanks for addressing GeoMC. My Dendro needs are plenty met with Nahida and YaoYao, and GeoMC is the only other Geo character I have besides Noelle, so I've been really wondering if they're worth investing for the resonance.
Finally. Waiting for this. Considering whether I will pull her cons
My team is currently Navia, Fischl, Geo MC with noblesse and Kuki with tenacity, rotation feels nice af and generates plenty of crystallise
Congratulations for 100k
As a person that used Geo MC a lot in the early abyss and got myself a Navia, I'm really glad to see this. I've had a lot of experience with using the short hold meteors on Geo MC and I finally can get back to it. My MC is on Dendro but will switch to Geo to test this out. :D
Happy 2024 and happy 100k subs 🎉
Finally... someone who acknowledged Geo Traveler even though he has caveat.. thank you..
I think the tactic is use geo MC for boss content and Alfredo for AOE content in her teams. Provided you have him.
NAVIAAAAA :D ty for the post analysis
great video, and i cannot wait for the xianyun pre release!
I was super unprepared for Navia because I pulled for Wrio and Furina prior. Had no artifacts and team built for her and people usually recommend bennet-xiangling as her definitive "best team" which i both don't use.
So when I got her, I was so relieved to see that shes a lot more flexible than people made her out to be. Ended up using her with Furina, Albedo, and Charlotte.. The rotation is pretty smooth and she performed really well in abyss 12 for a lvl 80 6-6-6 unit with skyward pride :')
so far Navia is one of the most fun chars in the game. The shotgun sound is satisfying as hell and her numbers seem rewarding plus you get free crystalize shields all the time so you get resistance to interruption and she also works as a shielder
This Zajef video is so zajef, zajef is really the most Zajef of all time
"You tend to do more damage when your not dead". I can relate.
I was running thru the world of Teyvat with team Navia/GeoMC/Layla and Charlotte and with my still not finished artifacts on Navia (not enough cr%) it was really fun experience.
Ice and Geo resonance were carrying it altogether pretty nicely.
100k subs, some way to start a new year🥳
with Audio PooooG
I like the clip thumbnails being an old 70s CRT television
I pulled Navia 1) because i love her and 2) because I've had Albedo since 1.2 and i wanted a team to finally put him in. i have had dog shite luck with artifacts so i'm running 2 petra 2 glad with a 4* feather because thats what I have, and i pulled xiangling and bennet from my childe national because i don't have furina and they were already built. all this is to say that i have an extremely scuffed Navia. My review is that she is amazing, super simple rotations that do big numbers, the amount of crystalize i get makes her easy to play, her lack of reliance of NA combos means i don't have to feel bad about sprinting to dodge. Even my shitty Navia managed to 36* at level 70. She's very forgiving for people like me who are Bad at video games. I have a lot of S tier DPS characters benched and Navia for me is more fun than all of them.
I love Navia. I got her because gunbrella but she’s a killer even at all skills at 1 (I just leveled her to 80 with an ok artifact set, I dread farming).
Surprisingly, I’m enjoying playing Navia with Ayato, they feel kinda similar to play! I’m pairing them with Fischl and Albedo and it’s working fine
I haven’t been able to get on my PC for a month (flew home for break) and I got Navia and playing her on mobile is one thing; I’m very excited to actually be able to try her properly on PC. She’s one of my favorite characters to play and if I decide to build Geo MC it’ll be hilarious, I’ve never considered using her before. Navia’s a W character, love her a ton.
Thank you for making this video! Maybe I will dust off my Geo MC for my Navia teams, it has been a while...
I appreciate the comment about teams. It would definitely be wrong to say that her only good teams are Geo/Bennett/Xiangling and Bennett/Xiangling/Furina. Out of the ones I've tested the ones I like the most are Geo/Bennett/Xiangling and double geo/Bennett/Yelan. Fischl is also a good option if you need electro for some reason (like in the last abyss it's good for SIMON) or just don't have anyone better. Furina's energy reqs solo hydro are high enough to be really obnoxious to build around for me, but that's definitely personal preference and I'm sure if you do they perform well enough. Honestly I'm too lazy to switch around artifacts and weapons all the time when there are double hydro teams I'd way rather use Furina for personally. Overall, the main point is that yes, there are definitely other viable teams that to me, generally feel better to play in some cases.
I think that more than a lot of other characters, the state of weapons on someone's account affects the performance of Navia's teams relative to each other fairly significantly. Because Verdict and Serpent Spine are generally her highest damage options, and don't have ER, if a player does not have access to them, the ER weapons (Mega Magic Sword and Sac GS) are genuinely among her best options, which makes meeting the ER reqs for solo geo teams much less of an ask. I've done pretty much all my testing with Serpent Spine and Verdict and with those I would consider her ER reqs in most of the solo geo teams to be unreasonably high unless you switch to an ER sands, which you *can*, but it restricts things even more and you're losing a lot of atk. But with an ER weapon they're not unreasonable at all.
That being said, Navia does have more options to screw around with her EQ reqs than a lot of units do, since you can pretty reasonably get an extra E on the first and last rotation of the chamber.
Time to see Zachef Ramsay review. Knowing Zachef, maybe he will build wacky comp with Navia like TF Kazuha, PikeLi or Xiaolad
Agree with many of the points. Though I really like Navia in Wet Rock with Furina and Kokomi and Albedo. Albedo just feels better than Zhongli (caveat on shieldless enemies and you have albedos event weapon), his application and damage contribution is much higher. Zajef is also on point about crystalise, you don't stagger often because you always have at least one. That leaves the very contested double Pyro units for other teams for which there are many. I actually tried forcing mono Geo Side one and Wet Rock Side two and got a 36 star clean. Replaced Albedo with Bennet on mono with Fav and just brute forced the geo slimes with non infused normals. Bennet was also able to help with the Tulpa
I will go out and say of the fontaine dps I have the following at C0 (since I choose new characters/weapons over constellations)
- Leney
- Neuvellete
She is the easiest to get really good damage and has the most flexible team options at C0. On a very average signature set with the Wolfs gravestone still pushing 300k nukes in the current abyss cycle and can very easily two rotation most of the floors (side two floor two takes a longer because of the geo slimes have to auto more here without an infusion but still can be brute forced).
Neuvelette absolute needs his signature or high refined BP weapon. I have neither so he feels underwhelming, I've tried a bunch of other 5 star weapons.
Leney has to go mono pyro with a shield, (*Neuvellette also needs a shield in many situations). I also think he really wants a high crit bow for which there aren't many options.
I actually rly enjoy zhongli with navia, i apply element on enemies and then E shield with zhongli to get insta X amount of crystallize shards instantly, then i swap to navia and can have that way instant burst of E, thats among other benefits
I didn't have a good 4th unit for my Navia team and was looking for cope options and found one that worked really well and didn't expect at all, Lynette on a nobeless. Her talent gives 20% attack on burst, so 40% attack buff and she generates a ton of particles with 2 skills and a fav and goods extra off-field application of crystalize triggers. Probably not best, but it's a functional cope option. Was enough to clear abyss with a lvl50 1/1/1 talent lynette.
Anemo it's not good with Navia, because she will proc less Cristalyze.
You can get the same amout of DMG by using 2 Geo or 2 Pyro.
Hii! I love your content and how deeply you explain every aspect of each character. I have a question, how did you buiild Bennett for the Navia / Xiangling / Bennett / Furina team?
As high investment navia I always do 3E it's solve her energy requirements and enemy always die within 1 rotation, except the 3 mil boss but they are close to die that I can just do random stuff and funneling energy.
That pre-release footage reminds me so much of fallout.
why is zafej slick af in this one 😳
I've been using Navia with MH, Barbara with the new healer set, Zhongli, and Furina. I considered using geo MC, but I didn't feel like going to the statue.
I still like using Albedo with her and Charlotte-Albedo combination for crystalize is amazing! 4th slot can be flex. Though Furina is awesome with Charlotte as always, I do prefer going for Cryo Resonance, so 2 Cryo + 2 Geo. The most pleasant part about this is extreme consistency, though maybe not the highest high.
I'm glad the biggest flaw with Navia is just the lack of geo supports, since that's easily fixable. We could very well see a future unit that synergizes super well with her and boost her back into the spotlight
Quick question: In your example with Zhongli and Geo Resonance: if we are at -10% resistance already, wouldn't ZLs shred only apply at half the value? (And maybe we would also be at -5% to begin with?)
I was just thinking about this too
I thought that at first too but he did do the calcs right, he just said it kinda weird. The 20% shred from +10 to -10 is +15% which is what he did, from 90% to 105%. The next minus 20 adds 10 to get 115%
I tried a team with Geo MC and the Barrier doesn't spawn half of the time, even when there are no bosses around. Which makes it basically a wasted slot.
Then I trapped myself inside the circle and the Electro boss cooked me alive. 10/10 immersive rock simulator.
100k subs wohooooo!!!
I will stick with my bloom build on my Barbara. O love seeing those MASSIVE bloom hits that she can trigger.
i use the navia jean furina zhong team to farm her artifact domain because jean burst instantly kills the elemental shields and allows navia to 1 shot the horsies
What about the Furina c6 mika and c6 Yun Jin teams ? I got those accidentally while wishing and i was feeling building them from a long time since c6. And now that i got Navia the incentive is even higher. I have Wolf’s btw so bennett is alot less valuable i think over a proper Furina buff?
I'm actually a big fan of GMC.. prior to DMC release, my go-to MC was GMC and fully-built them (so my built MCs are actually just GMC and DMC). Also, my go-to flex slot with HT team- which, I know, might be weird and difficult for some. But I got used to using GMC. Anyway, with this, I'm just happy GMC got another recognition with Navia's release.
And i also like to use beidou instead of XL bcs she gives you interuption resistance and swapping to beidou to perfect counter feels good. Also she can hold my gws
My Noelle has been getting *stonks* lately. First Furina becomes a permanent fixture on her teams, now Navia with short field time, high single-target damage, and high particle generation who can ALSO take advantage of C6 Gorou AND Furina...the synergy is fabulous. Noelle has carried me through just about every abyss since 1.2 and it looks like that trend is going to CONTINUE, BABY.
Hey!
In your opinion how many teams should someone have ready for the Abyss ? like just in case? you think 2 teams are enough? or would you say go with 3 just to be save? all teams with different elements ofc
I play Navia with Bennett, Xianling and Yun Jin. Yun Jin's buff makes my Navia do twice as much damage with her normal attacks and the duration and cooldown lines up perfectly with Navia's infusion. Plus since Navia is Geo I can run Yun Jin with less ER and more Defense.
*ATTAAAAACKK*
With the revival of GeoMC Traveler is the c6 recommended to activate? +5 sec on burst but burst is already 15sec duration 15sec cool-down. Not liking the idea of +10sec meteroite.
The CRT TV for the pre-release footage is fucking gold!
suggestion for Navianational team name: Navia's world tour since a lot of people called her T.Swift when they first saw her
My fav Navia team is
Navia, Bannett, Dehya, Yelan/geo/(Furina but ion like only Bennett for the heals)
It's both defensive and offensive at the same time
what build to use for geo mc on a navia team, ive been thinking about navia, bennett, furina geo mc. I am considering noblesse on geo MC and a healing set on bennett but not sure.
I am using Navia with bennet, mona and zhongli. because I have to use furina on other team. still quite good- btw how much ER I need for mona? because I am using a sac weapon on mona for lack of E
I have a limited roster, but a heavily invested Noelle, and I feel it works well with Navia.
Outside of boss content I've found Alfedo to work rather well with Navia. The account I have Navia on doesn't have Yelan otherwise I'd probably go double hydro Furina with Bennett.
I have Unforged R2 unfortunately, so i am using it on navia, it allows me to get rid of bennett and use other supports without worrying too much about atk buffs, like Furina Charlotte for exemple. It also matches her looks pretty good.
Who do I use instead of Furina for the bennett, ningguang team?
Cause I got Baizhu instead of Furina
The heavy-hitting enemies are so true. My Yoimiya felt even squishier than ever.
Ok so I do have to ask. I really like Microwave team. Can Navia work in Microwave?
Some think like Navia, Zhongli, GMC, Bennet? I can see geting crystalize for Navia being a problem but I have C6 Bennet and I dont have Sac sword for Navia so I'm only doing the 2 Es, so its not undoable. Can that work or is that cringe and Xinagling is still better for that slot in Microwave?
Is it worth it pairing Navia with Gorou C6 for the Crt Dmg buff?
For the last time. None of my bodily fluids are for sale.
Now we just need to find the true "The Bell" user
omg this was also your 200th vid
I still wondering, without Bennet buffing what's better skyward pride or the event weapon?
Skyward pride according to calculations iirc
Wouldn't a double Geo double electro team with Navia, Sara, Raiden/Fischl, Zhongli/GeoMC work decently because of Sara's ATK buff? (Also I coin this team 'stun gun' for obvious reasons lol)
She's forever stuck on my Flex team.
(Navi,Yelan,Jean,Furina)
I have Ning in my Navia team almost purely for resonance purposes, a placeholder until Chiori comes out some time later.
At that point, id say going for geo mc is just a better alternative for the energy, since we dont even know if chiori is gonna be a synergistic unit with navia yet
Geo MC is a pretty good geo teammate for Navia. One thing- the crit buff means a lot, especially since 70% crit rate feels like 10% whenever I fire Navia's skill. It's so obnoxious to miss that crit but Geo MC is a flex seal to that problem, even providing on demand energy. I think the only issue now is AoE situations due to that displacing enemies onto the roof of said geo construct.
So my go to is Navia + Albedo for AoE and Navia + Geo Traveler for ST. If we could get more dmg bonus buffers in future, I would vouch for double cryo with Unforged/WGS because if it aint 100% crit rate, its a 50/50 or even worse, its less than 10%. The cryo resonance actually does things here since Navia crystallizing on skill means she is hitting enemies affected by cryo so 15% more crit rate plus 20% if Blizzard Strayer on team.
I wish I was happier with how Navia turned out. I've loved Geo since day one of the game and lil sad to see how it is now. Hopefully Chiori is interesting to me
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