Streamer Accidentally Exposes a Scam Live
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I think lud genuinely has a humiliation kink
Yeah mogul mail's a real one for getting the same haircut to not make his buddy awkward!
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wtf💀
@@ilikecookies5043 this joke gets so old
@@counterfeit4450 every partyy needs a pooper thats why they invited youuuu
Party poooooper parttyyy pooper
If you didn't watch the stream, he got the haircut for charity. You got to give it to him, he knows how to pull donations.
Isnt that ludwig stream tho? How is that relevant to mogul mail
@@Patsy7 mogul mail killed Ludwig and took over his streams
@@benwhite7317 why are you commenting on mogul mail videos you should be training for englands next game
lol dude knows how to skip out on em taxes
@Checkmark lmaooo why would we watch ur ugly ass either? U aint even better than a dung beetle
In case anybody is curious, today roughly 16 months after this video, Paradox coin is currently worth about .02 cents (I.e. .0002 USD) or about 300x less than it was at the time of posting.
lmao rip bozos
thoroughly unsurprised
Honestly speed’s 10 second apology was better than 90% of apologies on YT
would have stayed good if he didn't keep doubling down and insulting people who called him out in the time since
like who@@parkyercarcass
@@DannyMeasho999 tbh bro i do not remember it's been a while. but i think coffeezilla did a video on this that had clips? but i could be wrong. i watch way too much youtube i don't remember any of this shit.
I can’t believe Mogul Mail got the same haircut as Ludwig
Ludwig is dead
I know right
There the same person are you dumb?
Lood Wig
Ikr its not even that good of hair cut
Damn, Ludwig himself must have come back from the dead cause he is the only one capable of creating that masterpiece of a haircut
Oliver wore it better
Ludwig is alive he is the editor check the description
If you didn't watch the stream, he got the haircut for charity. You got to give it to him, he knows how to pull donations.
@@jayzell3687 to be fair oliver wears *everything* better
@@nate09271 it was fixed from the start... More proof Oliver is the strategic genius he was born to be!
9:30 - 15 months out from this video and the coin is currently at $0.0001.
But hey they still got 3 months to go….. Who knows what’ll happen?
The 20 seconds starting this video were enough for me to never make fun of anyone ever again.
It's incredible how much one can own their own humiliation and just move on with life as if nothing ever happened.
At this point. Ludwig, despite being an absolute stranger and one that I wouldn't ever want to get close to... somehow managed to become a rolemodel to me.
Edit: "I like speed" is a thing that most people would look at me weird for when I said that....
And he didn't even reference it was done for charity, can't ever know all of the story just by the cover
@@Brandon-ge9to Charity or not (despite it being a good thing ofcourse). Being able to own your humiliation like this is the epitome of strength in the character-department. :s
How come you wouldn't wanna get close to him? I'd love to personally he's funny 🤣 I agree with you though 😊
@@fruitgum9619 I mean, yes. He is funny. Alot actually. But I feel like his personality would trigger me in real life. So I pass on that one. XD
He's still great though, don't get me wrong.
QT is the real victim here, imagine waking up to this hair cut 🤣
I’d die to see her first reaction
Maybe he wears a headband to disguise it off camera... 🤣
@@adalon378 he claimed any haircut can be salvaged with some styling and hair product so I wonder if he does that. He does tend to play dramatics for stream.
@@Taymeho Yeah, pretty sure he can just slick that hair back with some products, and it'll look fine.
LOL very true
He didn't apologize...he's not sorry...he's just annoyed
@lShowSрееd 🅥 omg speed im your biggest fan i watch your stream daily can you say hi
@@saber8387
bruh
@@saber8387 rly? You fall for that?
@@epzilon5847 lmao yall cannot sense sarcasm can you?
@@epzilon5847 rly? You fell for that..
Never expected Simple Jack to appear on Mogul Mail
This is a good one
As someone who watches this channel way more consistently that it’s always fun to see what wild effect came from a stream I missed.
Having people you can trust in your corner is huge, good on you for making part of this about reaching out in your own way.
@lShowSрееd 🅥 OMG SPEED!! I donated $5 dollars in your stream, can you say hi to my little brother??
@@Mina265 @IShowSpeed Dumb and dumber
This is the most AI looking comment I have ever seen
@@flay8727 sarcasm
The fact that I started commenting about your hair and you went “while you’re commenting about my hair you might as well subscribe” is amazing
Waltuh
Speed knows what he's doing.
The same way other creators knew what they were doing.
And it's not like he doesn't know older content creators who can advise him.
He just took the money.
Thank you for the great journalism work you do buddy, I appreciate it cuz im too lazy to look into things myself
Imagine being called a scammer every stream, Mogul Mail would never.
Thankfully Mogul mail doesn't stream
@@twelvevoltage pretty sure he started streaming on Ludwigs account after killing him
It's so nice that after all the beef, Ludwig is still editing your vids. What a nice guy!
I never thought that no one else other than ludwig can pull off such a haircut. Well done Mogul Mail
Honestly, this is one that I put on the team around Speed. Ludwig's advice about having the right people around him is critical for him at this stage of his career.
Glad it is MogulMail teaching us about scams. If it were Ludwig, it would be hilarious, considering how many times he got scammed
At this point, people making excuses for Speed because of his age are doing him a disservice. Enabling his carelessness (at best) that will eventually be a big problem for him as a legal adult.
to be fair most 17 year olds would do it for 2 million dollar's
@@helmit_kid9755 yeah the problem is he isn’t “most 17 year olds” this dude ha s a huge audience and that comes with a responsibility. His fans will take anything he says and treat it as gospel.
@@Pr0fessorB1ble if i were 17 ngl id take 2 million over randoms on the internet. Although it is NOT the right thing to do, you can't convince me that the average joe who has barely any knowledge about internet drama or cryptocurrency shenanigans would not take 2 million $ for what seems to be a sponsorship. Also there's no such thing as teenagers being more responsible because they shoulder more things... Kids will be kids and it will always take mistakes for them to learn.
@@superfeel1275 this is what the guy said tho, speed isn't an average Joe now he's a really big influencer, also people thinking that letting kids learn through their mistakes means they should just not have any consequences for those mistakes. That doesn't make kids learn, it makes them brats
@@vic_710 i mean he doesn’t legally have any responsibilities. And what you guys don’t understand is that speed was a average Joe like us before he got the fame. Would take 2m any time over fans who only spam L
16 month update: It’s down to $0.001.
“Christopher RonaldMcdonald” 😂
Barber: What you want?
Ludwig: Ever heard of Simple Jack?
Barber: Say no more fam
Ludwig went full [REDACTED]
It annoys me most that speed isn't really reflecting on what he did wrong, he's mostly just annoyed that his chat is calling him out constantly and thinks all is forgiven because he posted like a minute clip of him going "ayo my bad" while tying his shoelaces. I'm betting the kid doesn't even know what crypto is and STILL doesn't know
yea the main thing i dont like is him saying that his chat should just forget about it already
Tbh I prefer this. He could have done this whole thing sitting in front of a camera and do this whole cringe ass apologize that no one will except anyway. Instead, He was doing a stream, he acknowledged it, said he was wrong. apologized, and moved on, idk how much better u can get for apologizing and being sorry for what u did. This is probably the best apology I’ve seen from a creator.
@@bhaskar3200 Copium
I prefer that over a fake scripted apology. He is showing he didn’t know what he was promoting and was probably just doing it for the bag. I do feel bad for him because he clearly didn’t know what he was doing, but he should take more accountability for it. He might be a kid, but that don’t excuse him too much here. He _should’ve_ done the research and _should’ve_ understood what he was getting into, but he remained ignorant. I think he should at least own up to that.
@@MonardezRMG ain’t no way u just said COPIUM in CZcams comments🤢 u gotta be a poggers viewer 💀
"are you muted?"
"nuh uh"
Its so nice to see Mogul Mail with the same haircut to support Ludwig during these difficult times
Being 17 doesn’t excuse Speed. I mean he almost burn down his house. Just because he’s underage it doesn’t give him some leeway over this scam. His apologies were just awful. Yes we all make mistakes. However, most people his age knows better. Even his chat knew better. I guess it depends on who raise him, his role models and etc. This is what he gets from doing this type of stream. I mean he was in the news a few times over poor choices already.
Exactly.
If he's 17, then he shouldn't be allowed to be a content creator if he's not going to be held responsible for his mistakes and outright nefarious choices.
You CANNOT argue in good faith that "oh he's just a kid" while also talking about how many followers he has.
Yea, he's a kid. So why is he allowed to have tens of millions of viewers when he's not even a legal adult? You can't have both the responsibility of a following, and the absence of responsibility for your decisions.
Literally everything I hear about this dude is downright awful. Being 17 doesn't excuse anyone of being a piece of sh1t.
People also be forgetting the sexist comments he made, he was also given the benefit of doubt because of his age.
@@ManOfParody huge L, he’s a kid with unfathomable amount of money for his age and the company probably paid him a lot of money that probably you would also take.
Also this shits obviously a scam like how could you fall for this so i personally don’t care about it as I’m not surprised(crypto be like).
Also think about the shit you did when you were 17, so I think you can say that he’s allowed to make mistakes
@@antilad5584 What an even bigger L, everyone is allowed to make mistakes. But you also need to accept to consequences of those mistakes
Speed is a kid, yes, but in less than a year, he'll be an adult. He also made it abundantly clear that he knew what he was doing and still decided to try to screw over his fanbase, of primally children btw, for financial gain. If he was a few months older, he could be facing lawsuits like Faze and RiceGum did with SaveTheKids. Just because he's a kid doesn't mean he should be instantly let off the hook.
Un based take
At the end of the day, crypto is just another form of gambling. I've got nothing against it, there's nothing wrong with it, but you should never expect to get rich off of it - and NEVER invest more in it than you are willing to lose.
no one got scammed this time around though which is the difference, speed never invested in the coin either. It was the principal of what speed did he “sold out.” and he’s going to have to live with the consequences of getting called a scammer for a while
Yeah he knew exactly what he was doing with the Ronaldo impersonator, he was very obviously targeting kids... saying "He didn't do his due dilligence and check" is dumb at best.
You're liable on a civil suit the same way at 17 or 18, you're probably thinking of criminal responsibility
He got that John Travolta cut from The Fanatic 😂😂😂
i swear bro ludwig is one of the only one's left with common sense when it comes to this kind of stuff
Bro knew what he was doing
This ain’t Ludwig tho, I know they both looked similar but this guy is Mogul Mail.
Ludwig would let another man duck his wife
@@helloman3676 Oh shoot my bad u right. I got confused after they both got the ludgar cut.
Controversial take: Being 17 doesn't excuse any of Ishowspeeds actions. He turns 18 in less than 2 months we gotta stop acting like he's an Incapable child.
At his age, he could "technically" be tried as an adult in certain circumstances
Idk bro I was pretty retarded until I was about 22
Think you missed the point, and maybe projecting a bit, it's easy to do nothing wrong when you do nothing
@@VolklolWoWhow many will he fuck up until he learns that the stuff he does is not okay? I get your point but if someone is constantly doing shitty things, then at some point they need to be held accountable bc they obviously have not learned anything
To be fair 18 year olds arent considered adult enough in america to drink or smoke
I CANNOT TAKE HIM SERIOUS WITH THAT CUT HAHAHAHAHA
Did he lose a bet? 😂
@@freeestyleobsessed consequences of the 50 hour livestream
@@freeestyleobsessed it was a goal for the charity glass box stream I think
@just i c e boo 😒
Not the only thing speed accidentally exposed on stream
The ultimate cut
Ludwigs haircut looks like if a mullet had a character arc
he looks like a yungoos lmao
One thing that's important to point out is that although there are people in the crypto space that think they are making a genuine product, the foundation is faulty. Regardless of the intentions of the creator, crypto projects are usually either scams or just dogshit investments run by morons, neither of which is good to promote to your audience. The emphasis on the fact that there are "good intentioned" crypto buisneses obscures the fact that even those are bad buisnesss
@Checkmark 😂😂
Yeah crypto main purpose for trade not for making money, because economy always down or up its has value .like investment in gold bar
same principle applies to police officers for the people who never got that but get this.
really well thought out and spoken video. liked the way you spoke about the problems inherent to crypto, propogated by the gaming and social inustry.
i appreciate you saying why this video adds value to the viewers who already knew the basics of the situation. not sarcasm but positive feedback in case you read this
Gotta love the daily mogul mail uploads.
*Ludwig to his barber* : Fuck me up, fam.
*Barber* : Gotchu.
The lack of feedback coming from someone who looks annoyed instead of sorry because he conducted business only from the perspective of what he was gaining only to realize later he might have f up . Thanks for the video, you missed Fred from scooby doo, Nick from backstreet boys, Barney Ruble, Chester from the odd parents, it's gold, its content.
The hardest Mogul Move intro ever
I feel like this would be Ludwig's look if he lived in Berlin
🤘😹
it’s nice to see someone do things… for attention…
lud you’re face always brings a smile to mine
Your*
"do the roar" -mogul mail
He's got that dark souls 1 cleric cut
it's pretty concerning that kids are gonna watch speed and think that raging in the way that he does is cool or funny. as someone with a little brother who has some rage issues (not a speed fan though thank god) it's pretty sad what speed is likely inadvertently inspiring
Oh the Paul brothers did the same and it created a whole bunch of disrespectful younger creators..
I mean ksi did the same exact shit many years ago but his fans are fine. It’s called growing up. This whole idea that speed is making this dangerous content for kids is absurd. Is making child like content for children. It is what it is. And if u or whoever don t like their children getting exposed to this type of content then that is on U. Stop trinna say shit is problematic when it really isn’t.
I never did like this sort of argument because it's similar to how people think video games make people violent. I dont even like most of the people this argument is used against but in my opinion, social influencers shouldn't be responsible for raising other people's kids.
@@HawaiianGirl808232 exactly
Xqc was the first to do it. Even tim used to rage and tall shit alot to get views. It's immature weak minded behaviour that confused teenagers think is manly or cool
I’m already subscribed so I am allowed to make fun of the hair :) thanks for keeping us updated Mr. Mail!
Nice comment section
Man looking like he about to steel the moon
Best vid intro Luds ever done
This was way more insightful than I was expecting it to be. I dont mean that as a slight to you ludwig its just deeper than most people get on youtube. Props!
i think Lud probably had a similar, much smaller, experience like this with Cornbase, where chat mustve one-guy'd him in certain annoying occasions... also, Lud probably has the most insight and background reality awareness in this industry, and is willing to openly share it through Mogul Mail, which makes him unique compared to Charlie or Coffeezilla
bro got the “no quema cuh” 💀
this mogul mail dude looks exactly like ludwig, its crazy
Mogul mail dude looking fly af
Imagine if Mogul Mail exposed that Lud was a scam by accidentually going live.
I am a bot
I am a bot too
lud, I love the messages you are spreading, do well and keep doing what you do
Bro really got that Loid Christmas cut
lud every time he needs a sec to think of what to say next:
*flicks nose*
Weird.. No Mogul Mail videos and at the same time, Ludwig was trapped in a glass box.. What a strange coincidence.
Just saying I've never seen Ludwig and mogul mail in the same room.
@@Ht9ehtoom what about when mogul mail shot ludwig
So thoughtful of Mogul Mail to make the disocunt code Ludwig to honor his memory. I think he really regrets offing him.
okay no. 4 is such a compliment
nothing could have prepared me for the first frame of this video
Mogul Mail is so committed to that Ludwig bit.
I love how lud isn't like "these dumb kids, why do they like this shit". Many of us forget exactly what he explained, even after we were getting judged for similar things at that age.
I remember when everyone older than me said "why do you watch people play video games?? Wtf? Livestreams? Weird!"
the danger is that before we saw who was a kid and who was not. now adult people unknowingly listen to dumb shit kids say. not only in streaming, but im convinced it happens in the political sphere aswell... whereas before it was "we have to listen to young people and progressive opinions, but let us examine first to weed out the utopic unnecessary bs" now its *charlie voice* "wooo yeah baby, ideology, lets go!"
Most of us didn't try to scam others out of thousands if not more when we were his age.
@@Kidasev most of today's teenagers didn't either. And my point was about ludwig not saying "I don't understand why 13yo like this person, this isn't entertaining" etc, not about crypto. And believe me, I know many people my age who would have scammed if they could have.
I don't appreciate his implication that if you don't like the same thing kids like then you're a crotchety old man. Or in other words, unless you change your taste every 10 months, then you're a bad person and none of your opinions are valid
My dad used to say this until i said its sort of like how you watch football live, you like it, you could play it but its best enjoyed live.
3:38 "hilarious" is a word I certainly wouldn't use for that.
Got called out 😂
Hey I really appreciate today's lesson on having someone mediate your choices. Some of us are guilty of doing stupid things without asking someone else's thoughts first. This will definitely stick with me!
Thank you so much actually made me smile so much
I need people like lud in my life
I love how much ludwig own fans are sarcastically "insulting" him 😂
Great video! I watched coffee vid first, and was a bit confused with the technical terms, so this helps
I watch a streamer named Ludwig who has been called a scammer in all of his streams by hundreds of people, and he's doing just fine now. My point is, if the worst thing that happens to him is that people say scam in his chat, I think he'll be just fine.
I think I got it, Mogul Mail simply had Ludwig assassinated in a different timeline. Now he simply sends his content to us
Ludwig: You know Leffen?
Barber: Say no more.
Bro got that vector cut
Always glad to hear your levelheaded takes on these situations. You are a bastion of reason in todays world. Keep it up!
17 or not, his actions aren't ok
Agreed. He’s not a child…he’s almost a legal adult.
If he isn’t getting held accountable for his actions because he’s young, he will never learn and keep doing this shit.
no one said they were
my man got the Sangwoo cut 😩
I honestly can’t wait for the internet historian on this one boyz
Lud honey you know styling gel exists right?
bro got the aidan cut
Mogul Mail has the Callmecarson hair, I'm dead 🤣💀
ludwig boutta make his kpop debut 💀
I think we were all waiting for this one.
lud got the edgar cut
The mogler does it again, these videos are so good
I think we’ve reached a point in society where age does not equate to maturity or excuse from mistakes. Especially in an age of social media where extremely clouted individuals have alot of influence over younger audiences.
Speed altho being only 17 shouldn’t excuse his mistake which isn’t equivalent to mistakes regular 17 yr olds commit as they dont have millions of eyes on them. If you’ve embraced the clouted lifestyle then you should equally be prepared for the heavy consequences your fame could bring.
No, just outright no. -10/10 level take.
It doesn’t excuse his actions yes, but he absolutely should be treated differently than a 25-30 year old in the same situation. He hasn’t had the time to even develop himself on his own. Right now what we see of him is entirely a reflection of the environment he was put into, not an environment he chose.
I’d say in this day and age with misinformation at an all time high we should be even more protective of the younger generations and more proactive with trying to educate them.
I’m saying this finding out who speed is literally today, I have no support for him nor emotional attachments. But doubling down on a 17 year old who has the peer pressure of millions on him to embrace the “clout lifestyle” is absolutely not where we should be going.
@@Koozul - did he not decide to become an internet persona?
@@smallandstressed2364 well an 11 year old got famous and advertised a scam, they should go in prison till they are 20 cause they chose the clout
@@Koozul i'm late, but i'm 100% certain that even if he gave the money back to every viewer that fell for the scam, it'd cost him close to nothing. instead, he took the money for the sponsorship (which for sure is HUGE, maybe in millions) and acts like he's the victim in this scenario. if he actually feels bad about it, he should either give the scammed viewers the money back, or give back the money he got for the sponsorship. again, it's not like it will even affect his life if he gives this money back. for us it may seem like much, but he's not us. that's the least he should have done, but he doesn't actually care
One of the most exceptional videos I have ever seen from Ludwig. A show of his awareness of the online sphere.
Which is why I think he would do at least okay explaining the Armchair Historian story
Bro got a bowl cut but forgot to take out the noodles
Got the George Clanton cut, that's actually a compliment iykyk
one thing people have got wrong is speed never promoted that he was going to meet Ronaldo before the stream. It wasn’t until the stream itself where the founders told speed they had a surprise guest for him. Those tiktoks are from after the stream
Call me Mogul
That haircut is actually fire, you pull it off really well too.
Bro looks like if kid Gohan could go super Saiyan 💀
If he's 17, then he shouldn't be allowed to be a content creator if he's not going to be held responsible for his mistakes and outright nefarious choices.
You CANNOT argue in good faith that "oh he's just a kid" while also talking about how many followers he has.
Yea, he's a kid. So why is he allowed to have tens of millions of viewers when he's not even a legal adult? You can't have both the responsibility of a following, and the absence of responsibility for your decisions.
no people are just saying keep in mind he just a kid he shouldn't be excused of his actions but he shouldn't get in as much trouble as an adult. it works like that in real life
@@deacan5510 Why? This isn't some innocent "oops I knocked over your mailbox" stunt. This kid SCAMMED TONS OF PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR MONEY WITH PROMISE OF MAKING IT BACK 100x - 1000x.
No. This kid does not deserve to be taken lightly.
@@ManOfParodyi doubt 5 people went in invested in this coin because of speed, everyone in the chat was spamming that it was a scam, speed is allowed to have a following at 17 lol you can’t just fault him for it. He’s 17 he’s going to make mistakes, many people make dumb mistakes at that age and he’s living with the consequences, and your acting as if the project has been rug pulled and people have lost money it hasn’t lmao
@@heycodex I can and will fault him. He has the responsibility of having millions of followers without even being a legal age. You cannot make a good faith argument that he's "just a kid" when he has more capacity to do harm than any of us. If he's "just a kid" then he needs to give up his following until he matures. Simple as. Full stop. Anything less is delusional.
Can’t wait to come back to this video the next time Speed tries to scam his audience
You act like he does this every week.. He streams almost everyday non of this scamming shit happened before. You guys assume the worst while not knowing shit about him
@@salemalrashidi3931 are you dumb? Just because there’s an off time between the stupid shit he does doesn’t mean that they’re any less bad
@@salemalrashidi3931 Exactly, I hate seeing these people who barely know anything about him just coming here to vilify this kid and act like he's this evil person. Look how much harsher the comments are for Speed for this compared to Logan Paul and others who are much older, yet Speed is the one vehemently criticised and hated on, I wonder why? Even Andrew Tates who's significantly worse and much older than Speed doesn't have as much hate on his videos. It's frustrating to see.
i think this is the first time mogul mail had to stop and repeat a sentence. had a longer streak thank that ludwig guy. he stumbles and stammers his way through half his sentences
Make no mistake, I'm just here to help Aiden pay his 200k debt from the melee tourney
0:16 the only missing thing is the glass and he will be dahmer