Nice video bud!! That's a interesting test between the temperatures it's nice to see some snow we just get cold, wet and a soggy garden that's a awesome frame 👍👍
Great frame. I love your band speed videos ( ok..... All your vids ☺️). It would be awesome and add so much if you had some sort of pull scale to measure relative pull force between bands. A fish scale maybe?
I have tried that and did it in one of my older videos but it is difficult. I have to clamp the frame and pull to my draw length to get the weight. I stopped doing it because it damaged one on my slingshots. I will add it if I can figure a better way to do it.
@@ATOMark wouldn't want to damage any of your awesome frames!! Even if you held it over lines representing your draw. You would get a relative number. Not looking for science here, just a gzk orange pulled about 2 lbs lighter than gzk green at my draw (as a example). Anyway. Your videos are much appreciated. Thanks for all the work you put in.
What’s the fastest with a light draw you would recommend for 8mm and 8.7mm steel, keep the testing going please, I’m interested in the .7 100% slingshot 25-15 taper
@@ATOMark i just use the old school theraband gold it serves me well , fast if you double up but fast as a single as well , i just try diffrent tapers works well
Hi Mark What do you think about them pouches? And that “bullet pouch” you have from cattyshack is it good for 8mm steel? I get the feeling like the center hole keeps the ammo in place, but it might be better for larger ammo I want to buy but I want to know your opinion first Thanks in advance!
Impressive. Very rigorous testing. According to my personal experience, with the same taper, the long pull style can provide a bit faster speed than shot pull
Oh for sure long pull is faster. I am not very good at it yet. I will test again when I am sure I will not shoot my chrony. Lol thanks for stopping in my friend.
Still love gzk green but yet to try it with the sharpened taper template (should help to soften the draw) still cant get to the outdoor range at the mo but in a few weeks i'll try 'em!
Mine are the custom 20-15 but sweet for .70 and 9mm 3/8 steel! Be warned though the templates acrylic is thicker than standard so you will need a bigger cutting wheel!
@@qutube100 i have a big cutting wheel. I use it on my other templates and it has plenty room for more. I will be doing taper tests soon for heavier ammo like 9.5 mm and 11mm. I think before I try that I will do the comparison between the 2 and see which is the fastest.
@@ATOMark Excellent i like 11mm and use 12.5 and even 16mm on occasion (close range blunt force trauma on larger quarry) with heavy (1mm) bandsets as its more humane if its foodstuff, but wouldn't waste 9mms on any thing rat sized......cheap 8mm or the like is better for vermin or flying rats!
Thanks , it’s all in my memory bank, still sorting my accuracy with going left and low, only testing from about 6 metres which may not be a good thing , possibly too close, I need to get somewhere that the snooty neighbours don’t curtain twitch
Ahhhh it sucks when you have someone watching you. I was filming once and some guy just stopped in the street and watched me shoot. I noticed him in my camera. I was going to tell him to piss off but I didn't want to give him attitude incase he caused trouble. The left and low still giving you trouble?
@@ATOMark yes , I maybe watching too many videos, noticed your elbow looked about parallel with the rest of your arm, I think it’s a case of just let it flow naturally and adjust the fork tips to the right and up a bit. I’ll let you know when I get it sorted.
Tried your style of starting with the anchor point first before stretching out the catapult holding arm and got 4 hits in a row for the first time ever, think I’m on to something.
I tried the other way for a while but found that I kept getting an inconsistent anchor point. This is why I started anchoring first and it helped me a lot. The only bad side of it is if you ever havena failure at the forks you will find out real quick. Lol
Powerful bands but my experience with these was not very satisfying. Used the .66 and .8 with 9.5 steel. Bands where superfast but used to break from the middle without notice with 10 shots to max 50shots, something that never happened with Precise , Sumeike and So Bong.
Wow I have never had that happen. Maybe you got a bad roll. That would be enough for me to call it quits though. I had the same issue with gong chi green.
Hi big guy, see that you have a Simple Shot catch box, I tried to order one they said they don`t ship to Canada because it too big, how did you get yours?
@@ATOMark Hi, i am wondering if you get "hidden charges" from UPS when u receive your buys in Canada from gzk? Thanks! And love your videos. I am slowly going through your old ones to learn more. Very educational
Gzk always had to hard of a pull for me. Snipersling gets me faster speeds with a lighter pull, the down side to Snipersling is they are not cold weather bands.
Hard to tell really. I only really test for longevity if I have some early failures. I have tested bands in the past and GZK orange did really well with 600+ shots.
@@ATOMark When long range shooting, then stiff and fast is better than lighter and perhaps under powered bands. I don't shoot closer than 20m often, but if distance is 10m and only purpose is hit that target, You can propably use quite light set up to that.
For these test I go for the max elongation for maximum speed. 1. So first I measure the elongation. 2. Then I divide the elongation by my draw length. This will give me my active band length. (Be precise) 3. I add 1cm for pouch attachment 4mm for fork attachment for clips more for wrap and tuck. The active band length will be exact for maximum speed. Caution though! Maxing out your bands will drastically reduce band life. I tend to add .5-1cm of band to increase band life when I normally make my bands.
If you have your bands tuned right and paired with the right ammo sure. Typically you will be shooting .54 with light ammo so you are going to want maximum speed out of your bands and to be fair to the animal head shots are a must.
@@Dominochaney I test all my bands on a chronograph for speed. Fps is feet per second. Normally if you are ripping a hole in good thick soup can you are shooting over 250 fps good for birds like pigeon. If it will go through both sides or leaving a big dent in the second side you are more towards 300fps. This is good for animals like rabbit but you will want all your shots to be head shots. Otherwise you will be wounding lots of animals
Great informative video thanks love GZK green bands 👍
Another great video brother! Thanks for taking time to do this! 👊
Awesome vid! Thanks Mark!
Really appreciate these band testing videos . Thanks for posting them .
I'm glad you are enjoying them brother. I will try to film another today if the wind dies down.
Nice video bud!! That's a interesting test between the temperatures it's nice to see some snow we just get cold, wet and a soggy garden that's a awesome frame 👍👍
very interesting brother👍. thanks for testing👋😊
👍👍🎉
Temperature does make a difference. Thank you for sharing this test with us, Mark. Stay safe and stay warm
You to brother. How are you guys doing in your neck of the woods.
Another info filled vid bro....thanks.....and u even had the “MAN” gzk stop by🤙🏻🤙🏻
Yes sir that was awesome.
I like these type of videos. I also like a nice smooth draw. Thanks for the info
My pleasure buddy. More on the way
You are awesome Mark!
Thanks bud. I will try to get some more testing done when I have a chance. It won't be long before I can get back out to the woods.
extraordinary friend. the tutorial About catapults.Suitable for adventure. Success is always a friend. Greetings from my nature trail
Thanks for the kind words. I am happy you are enjoying the content.
Interesting 🤔 👍
I totally agree with you there Mark about the green vs yellow and the difference in the pull... another good video bud 👍
Thanks man. I really like GZK orange. For me easier draw better accuracy and shot placement
@@ATOMark I'm with ya there bud 👍
Awesome test video and love the Primfork frame. I need to have Andri make me a Beagle V2 sometime.
They are great.!
Bands performed well, good shooting as well.
Thanks man!
grear ved pal im on .6 bsb its super quick 7mil ammo they dont half shift take easy brother 👍
Great frame. I love your band speed videos ( ok..... All your vids ☺️). It would be awesome and add so much if you had some sort of pull scale to measure relative pull force between bands. A fish scale maybe?
I have tried that and did it in one of my older videos but it is difficult. I have to clamp the frame and pull to my draw length to get the weight. I stopped doing it because it damaged one on my slingshots. I will add it if I can figure a better way to do it.
@@ATOMark wouldn't want to damage any of your awesome frames!! Even if you held it over lines representing your draw. You would get a relative number. Not looking for science here, just a gzk orange pulled about 2 lbs lighter than gzk green at my draw (as a example). Anyway. Your videos are much appreciated. Thanks for all the work you put in.
I will figure it out.
What’s the fastest with a light draw you would recommend for 8mm and 8.7mm steel, keep the testing going please, I’m interested in the .7 100% slingshot 25-15 taper
I would go with snipersling .5. I got 300 fps in warm weather.
I have some 100% coming to test. I cant wait.
great speed test bro
Thanks Dave! Do you shoot Green?
@@ATOMark i just use the old school theraband gold it serves me well , fast if you double up but fast as a single as well , i just try diffrent tapers works well
I am going to do a speed test on those
@@ATOMark good man try the double and single if u can ta bro
Hi Mark
What do you think about them pouches? And that “bullet pouch” you have from cattyshack is it good for 8mm steel? I get the feeling like the center hole keeps the ammo in place, but it might be better for larger ammo
I want to buy but I want to know your opinion first
Thanks in advance!
The small ones are great but the bullet pouch is not for small ammo like 8mm. But it is great for 9.5mm and up.
Impressive. Very rigorous testing. According to my personal experience, with the same taper, the long pull style can provide a bit faster speed than shot pull
Oh for sure long pull is faster. I am not very good at it yet. I will test again when I am sure I will not shoot my chrony. Lol thanks for stopping in my friend.
@@ATOMark U've done a great job. Keep testing
Still love gzk green but yet to try it with the sharpened taper template (should help to soften the draw) still cant get to the outdoor range at the mo but in a few weeks i'll try 'em!
I just ordered one of those sharpened tapered templates. 25-20 I will test them out when it arrives. Its comparison time. Lol
@@ATOMark Noice i REALLY like them!
Mine are the custom 20-15 but sweet for .70 and 9mm 3/8 steel! Be warned though the templates acrylic is thicker than standard so you will need a bigger cutting wheel!
@@qutube100 i have a big cutting wheel. I use it on my other templates and it has plenty room for more. I will be doing taper tests soon for heavier ammo like 9.5 mm and 11mm. I think before I try that I will do the comparison between the 2 and see which is the fastest.
@@ATOMark Excellent i like 11mm and use 12.5 and even 16mm on occasion (close range blunt force trauma on larger quarry) with heavy (1mm) bandsets as its more humane if its foodstuff, but wouldn't waste 9mms on any thing rat sized......cheap 8mm or the like is better for vermin or flying rats!
hey mark nice speed test , how do the GZK bands compare against the snipersling in regard to draw weight ?
Very heavy. These feel heavier than .6 snipersling.
Thanks for the video! I wonder if Chinese will develop some nanotechnology bands going over 400fps in the future 😁.
I think its possible to reach those speeds with long draw or really close to it.
@@ATOMark Full butterfly might do it...
Thanks , it’s all in my memory bank, still sorting my accuracy with going left and low, only testing from about 6 metres which may not be a good thing , possibly too close, I need to get somewhere that the snooty neighbours don’t curtain twitch
Ahhhh it sucks when you have someone watching you. I was filming once and some guy just stopped in the street and watched me shoot. I noticed him in my camera. I was going to tell him to piss off but I didn't want to give him attitude incase he caused trouble. The left and low still giving you trouble?
@@ATOMark yes , I maybe watching too many videos, noticed your elbow looked about parallel with the rest of your arm, I think it’s a case of just let it flow naturally and adjust the fork tips to the right and up a bit. I’ll let you know when I get it sorted.
Tried your style of starting with the anchor point first before stretching out the catapult holding arm and got 4 hits in a row for the first time ever, think I’m on to something.
I tried the other way for a while but found that I kept getting an inconsistent anchor point. This is why I started anchoring first and it helped me a lot. The only bad side of it is if you ever havena failure at the forks you will find out real quick. Lol
Powerful bands but my experience with these was not very satisfying. Used the .66 and .8 with 9.5 steel. Bands where superfast but used to break from the middle without notice with 10 shots to max 50shots, something that never happened with Precise , Sumeike and So Bong.
Wow I have never had that happen. Maybe you got a bad roll. That would be enough for me to call it quits though. I had the same issue with gong chi green.
I had the same experience with snipersling black. It kept breaking near the fork end. Maybe we were just unluck enough to get bad rolls.
Hi big guy, see that you have a Simple Shot catch box, I tried to order one they said they don`t ship to Canada because it too big, how did you get yours?
I ordered it from GZK. By far the best one I have bought.
@@ATOMark I did the same things bro! It`s comming in tomorrow together with a Titanium G-shot frame. Have a nice day!
Nice you have to tell me how that frame is once you put a few shots through it.
@@ATOMark Sure bro, I just subscribed.
@@ATOMark Hi, i am wondering if you get "hidden charges" from UPS when u receive your buys in Canada from gzk? Thanks! And love your videos. I am slowly going through your old ones to learn more. Very educational
Gzk always had to hard of a pull for me. Snipersling gets me faster speeds with a lighter pull, the down side to Snipersling is they are not cold weather bands.
Hey brother, I done a 90yd shot.
Hey brother I saw your video this morning. Great shooting brother!
What bands do you find most durable?
Hard to tell really. I only really test for longevity if I have some early failures. I have tested bands in the past and GZK orange did really well with 600+ shots.
Thin bands, but nice speeds 👍
They are fast but the draw is terrible. Very heavy and stiff. I shoot more accurately with a lighter smoother draw
@@ATOMark When long range shooting, then stiff and fast is better than lighter and perhaps under powered bands.
I don't shoot closer than 20m often, but if distance is 10m and only purpose is hit that target, You can propably use quite light set up to that.
How measure your bands?
For these test I go for the max elongation for maximum speed.
1. So first I measure the elongation.
2. Then I divide the elongation by my draw length. This will give me my active band length. (Be precise)
3. I add 1cm for pouch attachment
4mm for fork attachment for clips more for wrap and tuck.
The active band length will be exact for maximum speed.
Caution though! Maxing out your bands will drastically reduce band life. I tend to add .5-1cm of band to increase band life when I normally make my bands.
Tks so much!!! 🤜🤛
You got it brother. I have a video on how I make my bands. I do the whole thing from beginning to end.
@@ATOMark have a link?
Here you go brother. czcams.com/video/0pj0N2cmCxk/video.html
Can you hunt with .54
If you have your bands tuned right and paired with the right ammo sure. Typically you will be shooting .54 with light ammo so you are going to want maximum speed out of your bands and to be fair to the animal head shots are a must.
@@ATOMark how can you tell what is safe to hunt with and what is not fps?
@@Dominochaney I test all my bands on a chronograph for speed. Fps is feet per second. Normally if you are ripping a hole in good thick soup can you are shooting over 250 fps good for birds like pigeon. If it will go through both sides or leaving a big dent in the second side you are more towards 300fps. This is good for animals like rabbit but you will want all your shots to be head shots. Otherwise you will be wounding lots of animals
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