.50 band speed test
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- .50 band speed test
In this video we will be testing .50 bands. #GZKgreen , #GZKblack and #Precise will be tested in this video. Today we will find the maximum speed of these bands.
I do not believe it is good practice to max out your bands as it can affect accuracy and it will shorten your band life. That said it should be fun to see how fast 9.5mm and 8mm can go.
#speedtest #.50bands #precise.50 #.50gzkgreen #.50gzkblack - Sport
Nice. You have proved that no need to use thick band to achieve fantastic speed. Drawing with thinner and lighter bands makes slingshot shooting more enjoyable. I made a mistake by using thick band when I first starting out. Now I stick to 0.5 - 0.6 and I enjoyed it more and also, I have become more accurate with my shots.
I think that's something we all do. Lol
Are 0.6 bands enough to kill rabbits?
Another great vid bro👏👏...you're doing all heavy research for us ....and allowing us to reap the benefits....thanks man👌👌
My pleasure buddy.
Great need to know information! Thanks David.
Love these lindo of vids. Thank You, looking forward for more!
More on the way brother
Excellent vid Mark, very useful info! Thanks for taking the time to post this....
My pleasure bud
Nicely done. Love the measurements.
so helpful, thanks, im learning FAST with you :)
Good video buddy there's some useful information there on the different bads and speeds to the ammo, I'm definitely with you there for accuracy nothing better than a well placed shot to the target
Thanks for the great informative video mark keep up the good work 👍
My pleasure buddy
Great video !!!! But, you always have great videos !!!!!
Great job on the video .very informative
Thanks brother
Good video and information Mark
Very nice test brother! Lots of information. 👍🏻
Thanks boss.
Awsome video dude 👌
Very interesting, thank you.
Love it vicar data is always appreciated!
More on the way brother
Great video! A lot of good info! Always enjoy your content brother! That green is fast!!!!👊
Thanks man. I am glad you like it brother. The green is really fast but the draw is stiff and heavy. Out of the three I prefer the precise. Really nice draw no too heavy and it is pretty fast.
@@ATOMark I agree. I would take an easier draw over a faster band any day. Great video!
very useful video for me. Thank you
More on the way bro
Great Vid🤙🤙 tnx
Good to know bro!
keep it up!
Bắn giỏi quá bạn ơi, chúc bạn ngày mới tràn đầy năng lượng
Thanks my friend I wish you the same.
Very good info. What chronograph is that ? Would you recommend it ? Will it work indoors, under fluorescent lights, most won’t.
I pretty much reserve any bands over .5 mm for hunting only, I find .5 to be the sweet spot for target shooting. I have been making precise .5 bands and I wonder if I got a bad batch of latex as all of them seem to be breaking after maybe 50 or 60 shots if that many, tying OTT method, not having that issue with simpleshot black .5, it breaks near the pouch but not right at where it is tied, it is a little further up. Anyway, great video, good to know .5 is a good choice at least for target shooting and maybe light hunting, although I would probably use .7 for hunting small game.
Nice work. Try round stones from river. +9mm-
Very interesting results , hope you show tests on other bands . That was a fair test , nicely done .
Yup I have 4 more brands of bands coming at .50
@@ATOMark Definitely be watching that . Do you have a favourite set up for 9.5mm steel ?
I usually use the 24-18 taper with a pit locating pouch from gzk. .50 bands are my go to these days as the draw weight is much lighter with gong chi and sniper sling. I will be testing those next. I really like both those bands. The draw is smooth, light and I get decent speed out of them. We will soon see how fast.
When making these bands I don't max them out like I did in this video. I usually add a cm or 2 to the sets and it really helps the band life
@@ATOMark Thanks .
Good video 👌 could you make a comparison between Sheshou, Great White and Gong chi bands for example. All powerful and good bands
I have a bunch of band here I need to go through first but I will get there eventually. I do have some .65 gong chi green I will test.
Hi Mark, another thought provoking video. I'm new to this so maybe I'm missing something, but going by your results why would we need cold weather bands🤔? Cheers
We will see when it gets colder. I will revisit these tests when it hits -20 in a few weeks then we will know.
Thanks for explaining the elongation been waiting for this updated video and looking forward to the snipersling band test also As I have just ordered some .50
I really like snipersling bands. They feel great and shoot fast.
@@ATOMark good to hear 👍
Thanks.
My pleasure man
Very good vid ! Your channel has a lot of potential. Could you do more videos regarding lead shooting, ammo and bands selection for hunting ? Or even mooching Vlogs if it's legal where you live ! Thanks anyway :)
I am looking into lead shot at the moment there is no place to buy it in my area so I am thinking about making my own. In terms of band selection for hunting I believe as along as you can shoot 9.5mm and larger at 250fps and faster you are in buisness. I am looking into hunting with slingshots in my province. I called the mnr and the person who I spoke to said it is not a legal weapon to hunt with so I asked for that in writing and she couldn't produce the information. I do want to go in this direction but I need to make sure I am not poaching. We what I can dig up.
@@ATOMark For sure, don't put yourself at legal risk.
As for lead, chronos with different bands/ammos would be of interest for your viewers ;) thanks again and keep up the good work !
@@ATOMark How about pest control i.e. killing some rats on the barn and farms? Do you need permit for that as well?
I'm really not sure. For rats I think you could use traps with no permit so I don't see why shooting them would be a problem.
Wow I'm going to order some gzk green for sure i use .66 black right now for 9.5 steel, seeing those speeds i just have to try out green, this video makes me wish id tried other bands a lot sooner i went from theraband gold to .66 black and couldn't imagine it getting much better than that so stuck with it.
I have tried many different bands. Gzk green shoot really fast but the draw is horrible. It is stiff and heavy. I much prefer precise .65 to both gzk black and green. Just remember lighter draw = better accuracy.
@@ATOMark yeah i wouldn't want to max it out like I'm doing with gzk black at the moment, hoping i can maybe run the green with less stretch and get similar draw and speed out of it. It seems from your test like it could possibly be a more efficient band, I'm looking forward to doing a few tests with it anyway, you've opened my eyes to want to try different brands and thickness, i only shoot 9.5 and didn't even think .50 band would be up to the job, how wrong i was on that one they all performed great.
You know that is the whole reason I wanted to test these bands. I was chatting with some guys about shooting 3/8 steel with .50 and we started testing. One of the guys went as low as .45 with good results. I got a comment that I wouldn't be able to get a ball over 200fps with 9.5 steel and. 50 bands. So I shot the video.
If you aren't hunting then getting up to and beyond that 250fps is a waste. I tent to cut my bands a little longer and they are still fast enough to hit what I am pointing at and it gives them better band life. I have a bunch of tests coming. 2 more at .50 then I will increase until I get to .75 which is the thickest band I own so far. Should be interesting. I did a video about reducing band thickness and increasing tapers for better accuracy. It worked great for me.
what are the dimensions for butterfly shooting and tape thickness thank you friend
Now that was a good test 👏🤘😎
I didn't know, how to test that max elongation 😲.
I always use what feels good.
Because You have bands ready, You could make a video, how accurately You shoot with those bands.
40 mm spinner and 10 m and why not 20 m too.
Ya I may try a few videos like that. Those gzk green shoot fast but they are not nice to shoot at all. Very heavy and stiff draw.
Nice idea
@@ATOMark Im worried about the .1 sheeshou...🤣
Wayne recc 1mm sheshou.
great video. its informative .
what you think about terrabans
Theraband I am not a big fan of. I find there are many bands on the market now that far out perform theraband.
The GZK Green looks impressive with 3/8 Steel! Thankyou I didn't think you could get that speed with such a light Band!Could you chrony .7 or .8 Snipersling Black..I use it with 3/8 Steel and find it Hard Hitting!
I recently reviewed .7 snipersling black and it is stupid how fast is sends big ammo
I have recently changed to .5 8mm steel for target shooting
Its the way to go in my opinion. Unfortunately 8mm is hard to get in my area and expensive.
I agree with you I rather have more accuracy and longer lasting bands.
You are gaining vast knowledge within the community of slingshot users, excellent advice and another brilliant video.
Thanks brother. I have only been shooting for a short time and I still have lots to learn but what I do I will pass on.
Thanks really helpful, I’m on the .6 bsb at the mo. I’m shooting 8mm with a smaller taper as I’m too tight to buy more rubber!!
I was shooting .65 bsb with an 18-12 taper and that was more than needed. I think I could have gone 15-10 and it would have shot fine.
I just put on a band set of .55 bsb they are really nice bands. I'll be speed testing those when I get through the .50 I have in stock.
@@ATOMark 15/12 it what I’m on at the mo. Easy on the fingers when practicing and hits the target straight enough. To be fair it is the.62 with the nice little wasp pouch.
@@richardguest2972 wasp pouches are pretty nice. I am very picky with my pouches and almost threw it away but I have to say they are great and I am glad I gave it a shot
@@ATOMark top man.
16lb draw... yikes.
Great test, was very interesting.
The Precise i have is .7 and has a max elongation of about 450%... dunno what went wrong there. Feels super stiff... is fast though.
All bands have a different elongation even within the same brand. .65 precise is a great band. It is fast and has a decent draw for the speed it gives
There was percentages written on the boxes. Where those stretch percentages?
Great vid, you confirm what I was thinking, I got no chrony, I got GZK black and green.
Black seems way slower, but I cut the same active lenght. I will recalculate, thanks man.
Keep it up. 👍🏻👌🏻
My pleasure. It is pretty simple to figure out your activd band length. Your draw length ÷ max elongation will give you your active band length. Just don't forget to add some length for your fork and pouch attachment.
How long is the tire? How wide and narrow
precise good best
Precise are very good bands.
thaky you verry much bhausideke 😊😊
My pleasure
All my gzk green bands have failed it's ashame I really loved the speed n power but think I over did it so now instead of ordering 3 sets bands at a time I think to save money I will only buy rolls instead of bands then it last n have plenty left if my made up bands fail,as I'm new to this I am just experimenting and watching and listening to you guys I really appreciate these educational videos it can save a person lots of money also....I got some seshu bands coming taper 24/18 .60 I looking forward to seeing what there all about but my dream is to get hold of simoleshot black as everyone says how these are in a league of there own along with snipersling bands which I have some already but as I say now I going to buy latex rolls also I know that theraband gold are old school but I want to try them just to see what the fuss used to be about as they used to be gamekeeper johns favourite bands etc also gonna try out roll of falcon for smooth butter like draw not as quick but comfortable so all this education I get from you guys so again thank you so much much appreciated as you have no idea how doing this hobby stops depression and is very good for any one I believe to get involved with because it gets you outside in fresh air and also you can get motivated to try making some natural catapults the feeling is awesome , was never taught or shown any stuff like this when I was young I didn't have anyone to show me teach me n trach me about tools n basic stuff so now I learning as I go I really feel good when I go out harvest some forks from the woods then start working on them if you have any life stresses this really helps alleviate all stress and you start to feel good about what you create design and development even if it just basic for me basic is awesome i think wow I did that and when I band up a natural fork I found n made and it's accurate theres no other feeling like it. If you never shot a slingshot at safe target before you should try it the hobby and sport is amazing so is the slingshot community very helpful and will answer most question you have. So consider slingshots as a new hobby it's awesome .
Stay blessed peeps from the uk PEACE
Gzk green are fast but thats the only thing good about them in my opinion. Brother you need to make your own bands. You will save so much money and you can get set up with the gear you need really cheap. I have seen band sets sold for $6 each and elastic rolls sold for $14. 2× band sets pay for a whole roll which would give you 20+ band sets depending on your shooting style.
I agree getting outside, collecting forks, target shooting, enjoying the sunshine, being in nature, being creative, challenging yourself are all good things for the mind and spirit. Personally I feel great after walking in the bush for a couple of hours shooting collecting forks and enjoying myself. Truly it is like therapy for me. I think many people could benefit from taking up the sport. Keep getting out there brother , practice and have fun. If you ever have any questions you know where to find me.
hello friend you are a great shooter, thanks for sharing all your tests 👍 If I can ask 700% of the elongation what is the longest lasting latex thank you 👍👋
Here is the thing all the bands I test out don't last very long because I am making them to their max elongation. Some are 550%, 600% and so on. When I shoot for target practice i measure the max elongation then add a little extra. 1cm or 5mm to add longevity. But keep in mind this will slow the bands down slightly. Gzk orange are a good lasting band with decent speed. So are snipersling yellow.
@@ATOMark thanks for the quick reply and for the advice 👍👋
Nice shooting pal...👍
Try 1/4 or 6.35mm steelball very fast speed I test 512fps
Awesome ☄️💥
Wow thats really fast.
Im shooting 8mm steel for takedown bird with 0.8mm gzk band now, but the draw weight is quite stiff for me so i can't maxed it out, do you think if i go down to 0.65precise but i shorten it a bit to maxed out the elongation, will i losing lot of speed or will gaining more speed if compare to 0.8mm ?
.8 is way overkill. I'm assuming you are shooting a short draw. I suggest you check out my snipersling black 5mm band review. Or even simpleshot .5 very high speeds with .5 bands with 8mm steel.
You will not get great speeds with .8mm bands because it is like dry firing your slingshot. Bands lint that are good for 11mm steel or 9.5
@@ATOMark Thank you i will lookout for that.. yes i only used to shoot short draw style because that's the easy way for me to get a hit on where i aim.. what is the length of band you usually use if you shoot the short pull style ?
I mostly shoot short draw. So basically what I do when I make bands is ......
1. I check the maximum elongation of my bands.
2. Divide my draw length by the elongation I measured.
3. Then add some length to attach the pouch and to the forks but keeping the active band length accurate.
4. I also add .5 cm for longevity
5. This is how you can get the most out of your bands for your shooting style and draw length. I have a video going through the process it is would help to see it in action. Its called how I make bands
@@ATOMark That video helped me a lot of understanding draw length, band length and their effects on how you shoot. Thanks. 👍🏽
What length your active band setting man?
And your draw length?
My draw length is 30" . It is hard to give an active band length because every band has a different elongation. When I make my band sets for speed tests I check the max elongation of the bands then divide that by my draw length. That will give me my active band length. Then I add some length for the pouch and fork attachment.
Is there anyway to size ur self for a slingshot I have long arms in broad shoulders so my draw length would be more then normal I think I thought maybe hold a tape measure in one hand and draw bk with the other to see how long it is then send that to someone who dose bands but I'm not sure I've made bands out of heavy-duty elastic bands but there havey in I'd rather have real bands that's why I like watching real slingshot guys like u and think it's so kind of u to take the time out of ur day to show us the stuff u know and if ur doing it wrong is someone says then u will look it up in if there right u listen ur a really nice guy to watch happy shooting and respect from Scotland
How are you Sean. I usually just measure from the fork tips to my anchor point for my draw length. Then I test the elastic for elongation and make a decision what my active band length should be. I have a video explaining all this I will attach it below.
czcams.com/video/VAnghPIohPI/video.html
I'm very good thanks and I'll go check that video out I've only just got back in to slingshots so I don't know alot about them I was thinking of buying the wasp Enzo is just a starter in see how I go with that but the one I made turned out really nice so I would love to put some bends on it so I'll go watch ur video thanks very much for replying
Can someone help me out? I am currently shooting a Chinese knock off of a Scout LT. I like it, but want a new frame that can accomodate a 24mm band at the frame (say, 24mm to 12mm at the taper). What are those frames that have 2 screws on each side of the fork like the one in this video? Where can I order them? I am in Canada. Thx.
Well there are many frames you can buy that are great like the Titan hunter from Catapult carnage, the beagle from prime fork catapults you can find both these guys on Facebook. I highly reccomend the Wasp uniphoxx enzo it is a great slingshot.
I am looking for a speed comparison video between tapered and parallel bands. Has anybony seen one?
Snipersling has done one. Tapered bands are definately faster but straight cut bands last longer.
Just saw an easier way to cut band or tubing length. Measure your draw length, then divide by 5.5. Add about 1" to that to have enough length to tie them down.
This would be a great idea but what do you do if the elastic has a 700% elongation you are losing a lot of speed and power. 1.5" x 7" 10.5" of unused elastic. All band sets should have the elongation tested first then divide your draw length by that. At this point you can add attachment points and a little extra for longevity.
2 complicated, going back to guns...
Got 3 sets of these bands they all snapped on me in the first day 👍
Which ones? The green ?
Black
@@ps5wanderer920 I like the draw but not the speed or longevity. I think my favorite bands from gzk are the orange. They have a better draw are about the same speed.
Did I hear you say they were cut different length . Great vid .
To see the max elongation and potential speeds you need to max out the bands to your draw length. All these bands have different max elongation. So to make the test fair the active band lengths will be different. All bands were maxed out. Cutting the bands the same length would be an advantage to the one with the shortest max elongation.
@@ATOMark great vid , I'm a fan of your work .
@@paul1furby thanks man I appreciate the feed back
Please compare
Falcon vs Snipersling vs GZK vs Precise
Where can I find falcon bands?
@@ATOMark
Funny , yesterday i replied to this stating Gary (CEO of Falcon bands) complete with his phone no....but this morning CZcams deleted it.
Falcon has no website yet.
I just ordered .45 red and .4 white from Wasp. They are carrying these bands now. 7-14 days.... can't wait.
@@ATOMark will be waiting your review... thank you ;-)
Can you please send a link to where i can buy a slingshot like yours?
That was a beagle from Prime Fork Catapults. The makers name is Andri. facebook.com/primefork/
Just send him a message
Thank you for the brilliant video 😁 I am just starting out to shot catty and trying to find my best band for me please send me links and also that brilliant ammo catch box. Thank you so much 😀😀😀
Thank you for the love bud
I’m trying to order some GZK green .50 really hard to find. All there is .57 my draw is 80inc, what would the best cut be for the bands ?
Congrats on taking up the sport man.....be careful! It is addictive. Some of my favorite bands are snipersling. You find these at snipersling.com and wasp.com. I also like Gong Chi white cattyshackcatapults.com has them. And I have to mention Precise. GZK and many other places have them. I have to say try and buy your rubber from slingshot dealers and not those cheap sights that sell everything under the sun. Sadly there are some fakes out there and they don't perform the same.
Where are you ordering from?
trade.onloon.net/detail?itemId=06f6ba44736f4cc3bb37be481e82036c
The link is directly to gzk order from him. It is legit stock and he has .45 all the way up
Where is the best place to order rolls of bands from?
There are lots of good places. Simpleshot, snipersling, wasp, South wales catapults, cattyshack catapults and slingshooting.com
I have some .5 black GZK what taper would you recommend for 9.5mm
Maybe 25-15 or 20. I was not very impressed with the gzk .5 black. Really it would be better to use .62 and up.
@ATO thank you for reply yea I initially got .5 for 6mm and clay and its prefect. I just wondered if i could use it with 9.5 mm also
Boi that gzk green is fast
Ya it is scary fast. It feels stiff and very heavy though.
I did a similar test with GZK white, yellow and black. White was the fastest and green was the slowest. Black was the hardest to draw so my go to band is white.
What thickness did you test? Green or yellow was the slowest?
I have tried gzk white but never tested it. I really like it . It has a much much smoother pull than the black and green.
@@ATOMark they were all 0.66 and ammo was 9.5mm steel. All cut same tapper
@@muzislingshots1413 did you test elongation? Each color of gzk's bands stretch differently so to get accurate speeds and draw weight you need to find the max elongation of each band.
@@ATOMark I never knew that. I just cut them the same way all the time.
@@muzislingshots1413 you could be losing out on a lot of speed. I show how to do it in the video.
Today. top 5 high speed and high quality bands name ???
From what I have tested and have numbers to verify on my channel..
Snipersling black, yellow, 100%, simpleshot, gzk green* all in .5
From what I have tested.
@@ATOMark thank you❤️
What’s best for 8mm steel? .54 or .50 gzk green?
I don't know anymore. I stopped shooting them because they changed and I find the draw terrible.
What would you suggest for 10mm lead…….
.75-.8 25-20 or 25-15
Is 2024 gzk green good in speed and latex quality?
Don't know. I haven't shot GZK in a long while.
Where can I get the green gzk's
Here is his website. trade.onloon.net/?shopId=1497417766388
I want to use 7/16 steel what would be the best bands to buy I have a 30 inch draw I want to hunt
I have a 30" draw aswell. Su far this is the best bands I have reviewed for heavy ammo. czcams.com/video/Cq8sq8LQJqM/video.html
This video was shot in winter at -11°c so the speeds seem a little cold but I test them again indoors and the speeds are excellent.
Just got 0.6 SBS and I have maxed it shooting 8mm steel, I must say it still gave me over 200 shots which is great considering it is maxed out.
GZK maxed out gave me around 50 shots
Which gzk were you shooting? Green?
I shoot 3/4 butterfly with .5 bands and 3/8 steel. I shoot 265fps and I by far dont max out. Some bands react to tapers differently. Im a strong believer in finding the taper for the band and ammo match if your looking for speed without heavy draw. If accuracy is what your after then I believe finding a good taper that fits all your bands and keeping 1 taper. I always laughed when people say you can't hunt with .5 bands and 3/8 steel. My set up is a prairie dogs worst nightmare. Shooting in Colorado may be helping my speed, but not by much.
I maxed these out just to see what speeds I could get out of them. I agree 100% you do have to experiment with tapers and bands. Once you get it dialed in, stick with it. As for hunting as ling as you are reaching that 250fps in my opinion you are good to go.
@@ATOMark yes sir... when hunting small critters, a well placed 180fps is way more effective than a 300fps misplaced shot.
i like 0.40mm it Can fit any active length , ammo size and fast !
0.40mm is only for smaller ammo. 7mm bb and smaller.
@@LawAbidingCitizen117 not necessarily for 7mm and bb , it can fits 8-9mm steels if you make it thicker like 23F / 13P or 24F /13P . length depend on style
Very true what you say. One of my buddies on the forum was testing with 9.5mm and had some good results but the bands were maxed out and didn't last too long.
@@ATOMark What brand he uses ? i use sumeike and precise they are good ! recently i got brand named Yongshuihu it's .40 but it didn't last long smell is not latex i'm not happy with the purchase. to know a good bands ! stripes 3-4 differents comp, leave it expose to sunlight for two days, try stretch them and see which one hold little bit
@@user-qo4db7ib5q the lowest I go is .45. ALS they are great. So is .48 100% bands. They seem to last long. I also have .45 sumeike they are ok but I mostly shoot. 5 bands from simple shot, snipersling and 100%
Is possible to shoot 9mm(4.5g) lead with 0.66 GZK Green and take up to 240 fps ?
I would assume so. I think 9mm lead would weigh very similar to 11mm steel. With the right taper I sure you could reach those speeds. GZK green .66 are fast bands
Thanks a lot for the answer.
Where can you get the GZK bands in canada without having to cut them yourself?
I really don't know. Have you asked GZK? He may do them.
@@ATOMark Do you think I could find out through them? Customer service is often pretty lame, but I’ll try that. There is so little here. The only places I can find are in the states. Which isn’t really a problem for something like bands, but the slingshot I got, got hit by duty, amd really made it not worth it.
Do you know any US places?
@jimf1964 sorry man. I have no idea.
what size 0,7mm bands 7mm steel ball?
No I would use 9.5 for .7mm bands. Shooting small ammo like that with heavy bands will only kill them fast.
@@ATOMark 🍻🍻🍻🍻
Howmany Joule ?
No idea!
Paralysis through Analysis....😅
GZK green has 650% elangation according to my test
Not the one I tried 5.5 is what I got. I have herd they changed it up. What thickness are you useing?
@@ATOMark 0.50 and 0.62 both 650%
@@sebbegustafsson4681 thats really wierd did you buy them recently?
But the green gzk has become alot stiffer then befor
@@sebbegustafsson4681 I have .5, .54 and .66 and all are the same. I have heard they changed the formula. Is it still really stiff?
Missed the point of the video.
I was just speed testing bands and showing people how to find the max elongation of their elastic.