Long Band Life vs Fastest Speed can you have both?
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2022
- long Band Life vs Fastest Speed can you have both?
in this video I will answer a question I get all the time. What is the best taper for Fast speeds and longest Band Life. I will answer this questions and more in this video. lots of good stuff in this video. be sure to watch to the end.
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You are a ambassador to the sport mate. Really appreciate the effort and research you do. Much love from the 🇬🇧
Hey thanks man. I really appreciate the comment. I think passing on the information I have learned will help some new shooters see results a little faster and the goal is it will help the sport grow.
Never heard it explained better! I was actually surprised a centimeter gave that much more draw length maxed out.
Ya a good 2.5 inches more makes a big difference
I love all your well prepared and presented sling shot analyses!
Totally fascinating! Thanks so much and please keep up the good work! Mike from the UK.
Love your videos! Very informative with clear information, thanks for putting in the work so I can make informed decisions.
My pleasure man and thanks for the feedback. Let's me know I am on track.
Fantastic explanation Mark, thanks for taking the time to put all that together brother, great info !
Thanks for watching Darrell. I figured it was time to shoot a video after getting asked the question so many times. Now I will just send the link instead of trying to explain it all through test. Hopefully it wasn't too boring of a video.
This is one of the best videos I've ever watched concerning bands, tapers, draw weight, speeds, etc. Great job as always.
Hey thanks man! I actually almost passed on this one. But I got so many questions about it I did it anyway. Thanks for the feedback man. I appreciate it.
Great video Mark. I learn something new every time I watch your video's.
Appreciate your videos man. Good info. Straight talking, straight shooting 😆
Thanks man.
Great video. Special thanks for info on non tapered bands. Also looks like you finally got over the sound recording issue.
Ya I was happy with the sound on this one.
Great Job! This was super informative!
Thanks man
Excellent video, that was very well explained. 👍
Thanks man.
Congratulation for the detailed info we get
That was an excellent slingshot demonstration video. It's the kind of demonstration that you would see in a science class. The only thing missing in this video were the chalkboard and the physics equations for the slingshot on the chalkboard. However, if you did that, you would tune out a lot of people.
Excellent job. My hat's off to you.
PS. I would wear eye protection.
The straight cut band was a bit slower however it seemed more consistent. Have you done some shot string testing side by side to see which holds a tighter velocity spread? Great content, thanks for the info
Cracking video! Very well explained : )
Thanks. Im glad you enjoyed it Tij
Very informative! Thank you sir!
Thanks for watching
Thanks an excellent video.
I hope i can learn a lot from you bro you are awesome
Well explained Mark.👍
Thanks Tim
great info, very detailed. Oh, nice fluffy muff too
Lol it seems to work well. I just have to find a place to clip it where I don't bang into it all the time. Lol thanks for the tip.
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Thanks
Good video and orientation.
Thanks!
I been using 15 ×22 tappers for 9.5 steel, dont completely max out leave some room, and they perform well, one set I've clocked over 300 shots with precise accuracy. 7ml thick
Good video. Good info. It is amazing the difference just a bit more speed makes. Have not done the calcs but on wind turbines, the energy produced goes up exponentially with the wind speed (cubed actually). So wondering if with our ammo, the energy delivered also goes up exponentially with the ammo speed. In other words, tapered bands, lighter pouches, lighter pouch ties all yeild better results in energy delivered to the target. Worth pursuing that perfect spot on the curve eh!?
That should make a big difference. That's why many shooters use microfiber pouches because they are lighter. The whole goal is to reduce the overall weight of the pouch.
I have an app designed for airguns. Hawke Chairgun. (It can also be used for catapults.) Anyway a JSB Exact pellet, 8.44 grains at 800ft/s has muzzle energy of 12ft/lbs, the same pellet at 400ft/s has muzzle energy of 3ft/lbs. So double the speed you get 4 times the energy.
Man. Your videos are great. Im always fiddling with band length. I burn thru bands but I also shoot a lot as a newer shooter. 100 a day if possible.
I use .7 Snipersling for 9.5 and .5 for 8mm.
My draw length is 30 inches....I cut them at 6 inches and it feels really stressed.
Well the .7 is heavy and feels heavy. Do you know how to check the elongation of the bands?
@@ATOMark Yes. My band length is 6 inches from 30" draw length.
@@northeastslingshot1664 you see I only ask because my draw is 30" too. We use inches up here in Canada but I learned all my measurements for bands in metric inch talk throws me off lol. Is 6" the total length of your bands? Before the pouch and fork attachment?
I like to mess with band length too. I like to try to get my draw weight down as far as I can while still shooting 265fps for target shooting. It really helps my accuracy with the light draw.
@@ATOMark i add a quarter inch for my last set for the clip. Thanks bub!!
I like precise bands , I have the 0.60 and 0.80 , for 8mm and 11mm, the 0.80 with 11mm steel breaks a brick in two in one shot.... nobody does their marketing but they are good.
greetings from Belgium
Yes precise bands are great.
Best video on CZcams, get some cans!
Lol thanks man. I will
Just wondering if you have Merch, hat, shirt, hoodie?
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Very nicely done
Thanks man.
@@ATOMark I forget a lot that some of our viewers are fairly new to the sport
Ya me too. I had just been asked this question alot lately. So I figured it was video time.
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Hey Mark! Great video learnt a lot thanks!
Quick question, I usually shoot 8mm steel and am using 0.5 Snipersling as per your previous recommendation, but I'm looking to change to Precise at it is easier to source from where I live. I know Precise is lighter than SS, which thickness would recommend for 8mm steel? 0.5, 0.55, 0.6 or 0.65?
From my past experience 0.55 is the best if you set it up right. its the perfect combination between speed and accuracy for an 8mm. Just my opinion
If you are just target shooting all of them will work fine. .5 I have reviewed before. It has a nice draw and lasts pretty well. I never tried .55 or 6. But the lighter draw the better for accuracy.
@@ATOMark appreciate the input Mark and Eman. Will probably try 0.55, just because I prefer yellow color over amber.
Really it's all about how you tune them.
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Will you do some Band Tests with some of the Thicker Elastic. 8 and. 7 with 9.5/10mm steel and say 12 mm steel
I have a few reviews with 6.5, 7, 8 with 9.5 and 11mm steel.
Buddy, where did you get your magnet ammo holder?
Snipersling. It was made to attach to a belt. I just took the hook off and added a lanyard.
hi 1 have 1.5mm bandsets. pls enlightem me when to actually use this. honeatly i tried it and its really hard. 😂
where do you buy your materials? :)
Omega slings, wasp, snipersling, cattyshack, simpleshot sometimes.
Where do u order gzk bands from their site or like Amazon?
I order from the site.
Oh okay thank you
Is 8mm steel 5/16.
Min at Snipersling once told me when shooting competitively he changes bands at 300 shots as he senses a change in accuracy around there. So rather than wait for a band to break or accuracy to fade I just change bands after 300 shots. With my 20x 10 taper I can get 5 bandsets out of the 150mm width and 50 bandsets out of a roll. I reuse the pouches. So at $13/ roll / 50 sets a new handset costs around 25 cents with crystal tape or tape. Are slingshot shooters really 15:09 15:09 that poor that they are fretting over a few cents of band life? The difference between 400 and 500 shots out of a bandset is just a nickel. Plus I enjoy making bandsets and the joy of never having a band break and wack me in the face.
There are many people that are concerned about longevity. Personally if I get 200 shots I am happy. I basically did this video because because I had some comments that said they get 1000 shots with max speed. It's just not true.
I will be releasing a video about that very topic soon. Min is right 100% the draw weight drops and so does the speed which can mess with accuracy. He is not the only one how does that. Gaspar Acron a top shooter from Spain changes them every 200 shots.
Do you reuse the pouches on a new set of bands?
@jimmynich4791 yes
@@jimmynich4791 I have pouches in daily use that are at least two or three years old. I use three hole pit pouches and some kangaroo. My pit pouches likely have at least 3,000 rounds each on them. They are soft enough to get a quality feel of the ball. When I introduce a new pouch I carry it around for days and during idle times twist and bend it several hundred times before shooting it. With the Roo I soak the pouch with a ball inside and bound up with thread. Let it soak until there are no more bubbles, then let it air dry. When the binding is removed I work the pouch in my fingers until it is soft. The pouch now has dimples like a broken in pouch develops only after weeks of use. I never shoot a ‘new’ pouch until it is at least manually broken in. Pouch release is 90% of the accuracy equation and having that “feel” minimizes ‘speed bumps’ and fork hits. Jerry in Alaska
I tend to change my bands around 200-300 shots because I tune my bands for performance. I reuse pouches all the time. The older they get, the better they get. I have tested it, and you do see a drop in speed as the bands get to that shot count. Gaspar Acron, a world-class shooter out of Spain, does the same thing
Whats the best combo for speed with 9.5mm in your opinion vicar!
Really depends on what I am doing. If it is just target shooting I would use light bands like .45-.5 and cut them with a little extra fat on them so the draw is nice and light but I still get around 250-260 fps with light steel. For a hunting set up I would use .5 taper 22-12 maxed out to reach over 300fps with 8mm steel. 9.5 I would use snipersling yellow tapered 25-12 or 15 with 5mm extra to my active for a little added longevity but still in the 250+ zone and it will lighten up the draw a little for accuracy.
Fastest speeds I have ever achieved with 9.5mm steel was snipersling black .7 24-12 taper
@@ATOMarkThe fastest I recorded was 410fps with 3/8 lead, approx 29ftlb.
Double theraband gold 30-10 taper cut at 260mm, lasted about 20 shots then failed at the pouch.
I shoot intuitively half butterfly, the bands stay warm since I have no sighting aim to hold.
I have not experimented with the newer latex, though I have not shot in years. Just getting back into it.
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Thanks man.
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