This is my second Scag mower. Both of them are LEMONS. The dealer has informed me that Scag is aware of the problems, yet, they continue to manufacture mower with defective parts.
Thanks for all the comments, suggestions and input. After posting this video and sending it to the dealer for viewing, he agreed to take the mower back and give me a complete refund, however, he refused to sell me another mower. I think it may have to do with my comment about needing to contact an attorney. I really wanted to purchase a new mower from him as when it needs service, his dealership is in the town close to where I have my farm and camp. I ended up buying a Turf Tiger II from a dealer in the New Orleans area where I live. Turned out that his daughter was married to my first cousin. If I have any issues with my new mower I know he will take care of me. Bleachinuri, I did not know that it was an older model that I purchased until I read your comment and then purchased the Turf Tiger. I wasn't happy about learning that. My new mower has the digital display that you mentioned.Okay, here's what I've concluded. The problem has nothing to do with the PTO switch, or contacts that needed cleaning, etc. It is an electrical problem and I've deduced that it has something to do with the wiring harness and/or the switches in the handles, under the seat or in the brake lock position. Any of these switches will prevent the engine from starting or will cause it to stop if engaged during operation. When the brake is in the lock position with the PTO switch turned off, and the arms pushed out, I can not get up out of the seat without the engine stopping. I thought this was a new safety feature in the new mowers but it is not. Just like my first Turf Tiger, I can turn of the blades, lock the brake and then get up out of the seat to pick up a branch, paper, etc. WITHOUT the engine killing. I could not do this with the Cheetah. So I think its in the wiring harness or switch under the seat and once the mower has been running for a while and warms up, something begins to short and causes the problems that I've been having. By the way guys, I always start the mower with the throttle in the halfway position. I had it set in full throttle for the video due to the start/run problems that I was experiencing.
sorry to hear more issues with your scag mower wich not to good for scags reputaion if you like a good mower a good KUBOTA would be good mower wich we been using a zd 326 and it climbs a hill with out stalling and it doesnt burn much feul wich is great feul enfishioned but the engine on kubota wich is a good slick thing if you go through tall thick heavy grass engine will slow down and then it rises it back up by it self wich is a slick mower that can mow at 26km an hour plus it can be adapt with a snowblade too if wanted to do snow with it wich makes good versitile too hope this helps ya ronnie
So you were going to get an attorney to sue scag and you bought another scag? I am a proud scag owner. My pto switch did go out but it is the same exact pto switch that every manufacture uses so it is what it is. It really sucks you got one with something wrong with it
Had the exact same problem with my cheetah pulled out PTO switch and tested the continuity of the open and closed positions turned out it had an internal short in the normal closed(off position). Replaced PTO switch from a different vendor problem solved.
I JUST FIXED MINE!! The battery went dead last year so I jumped it with a starter pack twice (which the manual says not to do by the way). I replaced the battery this year. Worked for a while but then had similar problems to you this year. I replaced the fuel filter since I had one on the shelf anyway. Then I downloaded the Kohler manual and started learning about all the sensors and error codes. Suspected all the kill switches but then finally found that the battery ground wire was loose underneath the engine!!!!! What a bitch it was to get to and tighten but it's finally fixed!!!!!
I've seen more regretful-purchase videos of Scag mowers than any other brand. This is why we buy ExMark (who is known for their dealer support and honest warranty) and Wright mowers for their dependability. If you're buying commercial mowers, protect yourself with research, research, and more research. Best of luck with your new mower, and thanks for sharing this!
This seems to be happening a lot with this particular model. Coming out of the Scagg lineup. There is another gentleman who posted a new video of a brand new cheetah. That he got from his local dealer up north. The mower had 1.9 hours on it and the left side spindle failed. Dealer charged to pick it up . Did not say if he was charged for replacement. Now he’s experiencing belt issues. This alone, has sent me looking at other brands.
well first of all always start your mower with half throttle not full and you should check your PTO belts and wires wiggle the wires if they are loose tighten them and check for bad pulleys or belts on the belt under the seat for the hydraulic system and I have this same problem and mine is a 2013 and it does it and I will let it warm up and then i found out the pot and all that stuff was broke, then fixed it and it still does it but try these things
If you look at the recharging system and follow it to the wires next to where the control panel is on the tank theres a fuse that blows, its a 20 if yo swap it for a 25 or 30 it fix that problem my scag tiger 2 had the same problem, Id also check the fuel system mine was backed up from sitting for a few months with out use.
@@troyschultz2901 owners manuels of every brand say to use full throttle when mowing but they dont say be at full throttle and then turn pto on. Some say half some say 3/4 others have a point on the bar. But engaging the blades at full throttle is extremely rough on the bely pulleys and motor. Same with stopping you should slow it down before turning it off.
no matter the comments here you people do know that you defft. own the best zero turn mower made hands down... i saw one guy say toro pheww no toro made could last like a scag they are built as a price residential mower
We have a 13 year old scag that’s never had any problems at all other than the spindle bearings starting to make noise recently so I replaced them. It’s been poorly serviced and still just keeps going. J/s
If it's under warranty you should be able to take it back and tell them to switch it out. Any wiring problems goes on Scag. They should be able to wire around that PTO and if it stops. It's the PTO switch. It sounds like a short. Either the battery is dead or it's not grounding
Sir your problem is a fuel delivery problem, not electrical... The engine is running out of fuel pressure either by electric fuel pump problem or a sucking air leak from the fuel tank to the fuel pump.. The longer you run it the worse it will get.. Run it until it quits again and turn key on. Do you hear the fuel pump running? If so it is sucking air, not fuel..
I have to disagree. Based on the info provided, sounds like an electrical issue. Failing electrical components usually begins to show symptoms when they begin to warm up. The voltage gauge is clearly showing battery voltage when it should be around 14v. This would indicate a charging issue - either a defective voltage regulator or stator.
I saw that too. And I'm no mechanic but that was the first thing I noticed. If the alternator isn't putting out 14-15 volts, engine isn't going to run.
Looks to be an electrical issue, because you said something about the clutch. Replace the clutch, or replace the fuses, and you should be good. Source: I run a Scag Cheetah.
Thanks for sharing , good luck getting it running right !This will keep me from buying a Tiger later this summer like I had planned ! I hope you see this scag !
So if you still have the mower buy the third party switch. If that dosent resolve it, listening to it sounds like the air filter needs cleaned and or the line so buy mass airflow sensor cleaner spray some in the air intake and start it up on half throttle and slowly increase throttle. Now you may have to adjust the clutch if it is stalling like that I have had that problem with my V Ride (Kawasaki Motor)
Just an fyi.. The uh check engine light on any EFI vehicle or machinery from pretty much 86 ++ (machinery little later on average) the S. E. S. light should ALWAYS be on in a "K. O. E. O. " (Key On Engine Off) then go out upon startup.
I'm guessing it's an EFI model by the check engine light and electric fuel pump priming the rail. I had a kohler efi on an exmark and the computer went bad and would only run one cylinder. I HATE EFI on a small engine. I'm betting that or the harness for the EFI was the issue. Glad you got your money back, sorry to hear you had issues. I'm narrowing my next choice down to either a 61" Cheetah or a Kubota Z726.
I bought a scag 2015 Scag Turf Tiger I. I have had zero issues over the life of the mower so far. I also know of another guy having a similar issue with his Cheetah. His was charcoal canisters not allowing enough fuel to the mower. Glad now I bought a tried and true design. Will stay away from the new stuff until they work out their issues. Happens with more than Scag.
It's not charging, should be around 13.8 volts at full throttle. Running on battery once voltage dropes to low you efi will shut down . And other problems
I noticed right off the bat your charging system isn’t working, it should show on your voltmeter a reading of 13.2 to 14.5 or so volts while running. With it not charging there’s not enough voltage to run your fuel pump, pro and other electrical components. This will make it stall when you engage the pto or even while Idling.
it could two things. the fuel cap could be to tight or you simply need a new battery. i have the turf tiger and it was doing the same. try not tighten the fuel to tight first.
I have a friend that works for a big school district in Texas. Two years ago the school district bought Scags for every grounds crew. This year they are going back to exmark, my friend says the scags have been giving him a lot of trouble and will not buy scags anymore.
I know what might be the problem with this mower .my mower did the same thing same model .would not run or turn over So I diagnosed the electrical system with a fluke meter and determined it was the ....... in the control panel that was defective
First it’s Scag not Scags and of all the commercial mowers on the market Scag has the best reputation because they build the best machines. Of course there will be anomalies but to group them together as you do is telling to who you are. You need a dealership capable of fixing it is all but I am sure you’ll spend less on your lawyer than a replacement switch.
Your voltage is to low, not charging enough. I've had bad alternators that don't put out enough volts to engage PTO but will barely start engine. Plus the new electronic engine controls are set up for 13.5 volts and your meter says your just over 1`2 volts...
good thing kubota zds uses a lever for the blades blade engauging the wet disc for the shaft driven mowers wich last long life and kubota diesels are long lasting life and good feul enfishiond wich less filling up
This is been going on for years with Scag. Blaming the PTO switch. And they keep replacing it and it fails. I would suggest Scag go out and buy a new wiring harness that actually works. And someone that actually can install it properly.
looks like to me, you have a loose wire somewhere in the charging system. that PTO switch is the same PTO switch the have used for decades. Looks like to me the loose wire heats the charging system and you have that issue. The clutch will pull down the mower like you have that issue. Looks like to me the service department did a huge disservice to you in not fixing the issue. Looks like to me they just replaced to PTO switch and sent it back. The PTO switch is not the issue, its a loose wire somewhere in the system. looks like to me the dealer did not do their full dealer prep on your mower. Sorry you have issues but the service department did you wrong. Have you called Scag and say Yoohoo I have an issue.....I would be interested to see what Scag had to say. 9 times out of 10 the dealer in their haste to get the product moved don't exactly do their job. Sorry you had issues Call Scag and tell them what the service department told you. You really think Scag would really put out a product that a PTO switch would be defective....I don't think so. They replaced the switch and still have the same issue...sounds like to me the dealers service department screwed up.
In my state there is a car lemon law witch is if you have to bring your vehicle to the place where you bought it 3 times for the same issue they have to give you your money back. Maybe that could apply to a $10k lawn mower in your state ??
we been having 100% more great and best luck with the kubota and it doest stall plus engine rises down if grass is thick and heavy but engine runs it rpms back up it self wich is the best mower wich why all here in canada gone with reliable kubotas
Scagg dealer support has always been horrible manufacturer does not want to stand up to the warranty great machine when it runs right but dealer support is always horrible with this product probably because of the manufacture
I know this video is old, but scag and their dealers are even worse now. I've posted several videos about my 3 brand new scags and their issues. you got lucky with your dealer buying it back, my dealer completely ignored me when i had brought several issues to their attention. when i contacted scag they said when the unit leaves their property it's no longer their responsibility. today in 2022 they are installing cheap Loncin engines with a scag sticker on the engine cover and charging over $7000 for a liberty Z !
its would seem that if u purchased it last yr it wld be completely under the manufacturers warrenty, the repairs should cost u nothing being that it is still under warrenty, the correct mower engage button is red now with the dealer repair
The only time the problem comes up is when the mower is being used,, in my area we have 5 months mowing season, i cannot give my 10k$ best mower to them for 3 weeks if they need to fix it then they should be proactively calling people to fix it before the part fails,, in the winter,, its not like they dont know who they have sold one of these to in the last couple of years...
Fixt100 Amen brother. I've got a HUSTLER sitting at the stealership now. I'm having to change my mowing schedule like crazy. Because I'm down to a 21 now. Hustler knows and knew all about this issue. That's a defect in their design. I'm losing money now due to turning down work because of their shady business practices. RECALL THE DAMN MOWER! Nooooooooo. That would hurt out reputation in the green industry..... and their pockets. They don't care about my pockets right now. This is why I'm looking at scag videos. As soon as my warranty is out. I'm ditching my Hustler. Toyota,Honda,GM,Ford and who ever else. Take the big hits on a recall. Why can't these mower companies?
What about the engine. Im pretty sure you can get these with different engines. Kawasaki briggs kohler. Kawasaki is always your best choice. They make a workhorse. The others: some good. Some not so much. My point is maybe this engine is just crap. Which can happen with any mower that puts inferior engines on their mowers
You are right. I commented above that I had the same problem because I had loose wires on a coil causing the engine to misfire. Ended up soldering the lugs on the coils and that fixed it. The wires may look tight but vibration rules all.
They had no choice but to use those switches. Their is only one switch manufacturer and all manufacturers are having issues. Not scags fault. Replace the switch and have a spare on hand. Problem solved until the manufacturer gets their tooling straightened out. Directly from scags engineer and my dealers mouth.
This video gives me a headache !!! The owner of this machine ! Is about as unknowledgeable as an owner can get ! I do not have that big a problem with unknowledgeable owners ! But you should understand To be this ignorant Puts you at the mercy of not just everyone and everything ! But your own personal ignorance ! There is just not a nice way of saying it !
Take it to a different/more knowledgeable dealership for service. Your dealer obviously doesn’t have a good mechanic!!! I’ve owned several scags and they are great machines... I’ve never heard of a pto switch causing a mower to stall out.
Theres been a couple scags that ive seen have a PTO switch issue where it would prevent the mower from turning on unless you wiggled it, but those were all high hour machines and it would never cause a stall.
You are being told false information. The Check Engine light is tied to your ENGINE computer. It needs to be plugged in and diagnosed. It will have a code that will identify the engine sensor that is faulty. No switch on the mower itself would cause the check engine light to illuminate and run badly like that. The CE light only applies to the engine system itself. Go to Scag.com, send a contact in via their contact page. Let them know your check engine light is on and your dealer has not been able to fix it. They will have a regional service manager get involved and help you get this resolved.
This guy is right. SCAG used similar OBD1 light flash codes. Your problem is either loose pto ground or rectifier. Please quit trying to be a mechanic. You are only confusing yourself and others
Ryan51984@yahoo Westfall For what this thing cost He should NOT have to figure it out for himself. That is what dealers and warrantys are for. Personally, I would thank my lucky stars that the dealer offered my money back and RUN, not walk away. I do not support a company that will not support me after I spend my money with them. Not gonna happen.
i use to own a scag an awesome machine, but after scag store treating u like shit, i'll get something different, they sound good on tv and other advertisements, but if they wont sell you another one, scags store is a liar and full of shit.
stop grifting, if scag sucks fine, but you are starting the mower wrong. full choke, slow speed, crank for 15 seconds or so- this essentially primes the motor, no choke, slow speed, turn key start, DOES START, run for a few minutes, engage pto at half to two thirds speed, then increase speed to full. mow yards, conquer all bankers and politicians with newly found independent contractor, in practice but not on paper, status. ps taxes are gay. best of luck homie.
I have ran Cheetahs for 1,000’s of hours. They rock hard!
Thanks for all the comments, suggestions and input. After posting this video and sending it to the dealer for viewing, he agreed to take the mower back and give me a complete refund, however, he refused to sell me another mower. I think it may have to do with my comment about needing to contact an attorney. I really wanted to purchase a new mower from him as when it needs service, his dealership is in the town close to where I have my farm and camp. I ended up buying a Turf Tiger II from a dealer in the New Orleans area where I live. Turned out that his daughter was married to my first cousin. If I have any issues with my new mower I know he will take care of me. Bleachinuri, I did not know that it was an older model that I purchased until I read your comment and then purchased the Turf Tiger. I wasn't happy about learning that. My new mower has the digital display that you mentioned.Okay, here's what I've concluded. The problem has nothing to do with the PTO switch, or contacts that needed cleaning, etc. It is an electrical problem and I've deduced that it has something to do with the wiring harness and/or the switches in the handles, under the seat or in the brake lock position. Any of these switches will prevent the engine from starting or will cause it to stop if engaged during operation. When the brake is in the lock position with the PTO switch turned off, and the arms pushed out, I can not get up out of the seat without the engine stopping. I thought this was a new safety feature in the new mowers but it is not. Just like my first Turf Tiger, I can turn of the blades, lock the brake and then get up out of the seat to pick up a branch, paper, etc. WITHOUT the engine killing. I could not do this with the Cheetah. So I think its in the wiring harness or switch under the seat and once the mower has been running for a while and warms up, something begins to short and causes the problems that I've been having. By the way guys, I always start the mower with the throttle in the halfway position. I had it set in full throttle for the video due to the start/run problems that I was experiencing.
sorry to hear more issues with your scag mower wich not to good for scags reputaion if you like a good mower a good KUBOTA would be good mower wich we been using a zd 326 and it climbs a hill with out stalling and it doesnt burn much feul wich is great feul enfishioned but the engine on kubota wich is a good slick thing if you go through tall thick heavy grass engine will slow down and then it rises it back up by it self wich is a slick mower that can mow at 26km an hour plus it can be adapt with a snowblade too if wanted to do snow with it wich makes good versitile too hope this helps ya ronnie
I'd go kubota an never look back
So you were going to get an attorney to sue scag and you bought another scag? I am a proud scag owner. My pto switch did go out but it is the same exact pto switch that every manufacture uses so it is what it is. It really sucks you got one with something wrong with it
Had the exact same problem with my cheetah pulled out PTO switch and tested the continuity of the open and closed positions turned out it had an internal short in the normal closed(off position). Replaced PTO switch from a different vendor problem solved.
Mine does the same thing. All you have to do is cycle the switch 4 or 5 times and it'll start right up.
i have a pushing mower. work perfect. it keeps me in good shape
I JUST FIXED MINE!! The battery went dead last year so I jumped it with a starter pack twice (which the manual says not to do by the way). I replaced the battery this year. Worked for a while but then had similar problems to you this year. I replaced the fuel filter since I had one on the shelf anyway. Then I downloaded the Kohler manual and started learning about all the sensors and error codes. Suspected all the kill switches but then finally found that the battery ground wire was loose underneath the engine!!!!! What a bitch it was to get to and tighten but it's finally fixed!!!!!
I've seen more regretful-purchase videos of Scag mowers than any other brand. This is why we buy ExMark (who is known for their dealer support and honest warranty) and Wright mowers for their dependability. If you're buying commercial mowers, protect yourself with research, research, and more research. Best of luck with your new mower, and thanks for sharing this!
Go with Ferris mowers
This seems to be happening a lot with this particular model. Coming out of the Scagg lineup. There is another gentleman who posted a new video of a brand new cheetah. That he got from his local dealer up north. The mower had 1.9 hours on it and the left side spindle failed. Dealer charged to pick it up . Did not say if he was charged for replacement. Now he’s experiencing belt issues. This alone, has sent me looking at other brands.
I was having a problem very similar to this on my new scag. The problem was the ground was loose. I would double check those and see if it helps.
Sounds like a ground issue
I had the exact same problem. It drove me nuts! It ended up being a short with the PTO clutch. I replaced the PTO Clutch.. fixed the problem
Just out of curiosity have you checked your fuse block to your efi??
magnets come of the flywheel?
Nattery terminals loose?
My next purchase be a grasshopper
My Scag tiger cub has been great for 15 years ,just normal maintance .I take it to Ace where I bought it ,for tune ups.
Where they made the PTO switch u.s.a or China
well first of all always start your mower with half throttle not full and you should check your PTO belts and wires wiggle the wires if they are loose tighten them and check for bad pulleys or belts on the belt under the seat for the hydraulic system and I have this same problem and mine is a 2013 and it does it and I will let it warm up and then i found out the pot and all that stuff was broke, then fixed it and it still does it but try these things
If you look at the recharging system and follow it to the wires next to where the control panel is on the tank theres a fuse that blows, its a 20 if yo swap it for a 25 or 30 it fix that problem my scag tiger 2 had the same problem, Id also check the fuel system mine was backed up from sitting for a few months with out use.
Do you always start it at full throttle?
Ja son why is that? Curious. If
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@@troyschultz2901 owners manuels of every brand say to use full throttle when mowing but they dont say be at full throttle and then turn pto on. Some say half some say 3/4 others have a point on the bar. But engaging the blades at full throttle is extremely rough on the bely pulleys and motor. Same with stopping you should slow it down before turning it off.
no matter the comments here you people do know that you defft. own the best zero turn mower made hands down... i saw one guy say toro pheww no toro made could last like a scag they are built as a price residential mower
Don't know what you guys complaint about those mowers are $26 000 here in New Zealand
I had a similar problem it was the safety button for the seat kept disengaging so I stuffed a paper towel between it and the seat
We have a 13 year old scag that’s never had any problems at all other than the spindle bearings starting to make noise recently so I replaced them. It’s been poorly serviced and still just keeps going. J/s
yeah, who starts an engine up at full throttle? stupid thing to do
If it's under warranty you should be able to take it back and tell them to switch it out. Any wiring problems goes on Scag. They should be able to wire around that PTO and if it stops. It's the PTO switch. It sounds like a short. Either the battery is dead or it's not grounding
Sir your problem is a fuel delivery problem, not electrical... The engine is running out of fuel pressure either by electric fuel pump problem or a sucking air leak from the fuel tank to the fuel pump.. The longer you run it the worse it will get.. Run it until it quits again and turn key on. Do you hear the fuel pump running? If so it is sucking air, not fuel..
I have to disagree. Based on the info provided, sounds like an electrical issue. Failing electrical components usually begins to show symptoms when they begin to warm up. The voltage gauge is clearly showing battery voltage when it should be around 14v. This would indicate a charging issue - either a defective voltage regulator or stator.
Sounds like a Dealer issue more than the Mower ,where did you buy it ???
I agree. The dealer needs to learn how to fix mowers.
battery or charging system.
volt meter should be 14-15 volts when it's running full throttle.
I saw that too. And I'm no mechanic but that was the first thing I noticed. If the alternator isn't putting out 14-15 volts, engine isn't going to run.
Ground issue. Dummy light. Also Scags haha.
Looks to be an electrical issue, because you said something about the clutch.
Replace the clutch, or replace the fuses, and you should be good.
Source: I run a Scag Cheetah.
Thanks for sharing , good luck getting it running right !This will keep me from buying a Tiger later this summer like I had planned ! I hope you see this scag !
So if you still have the mower buy the third party switch. If that dosent resolve it, listening to it sounds like the air filter needs cleaned and or the line so buy mass airflow sensor cleaner spray some in the air intake and start it up on half throttle and slowly increase throttle. Now you may have to adjust the clutch if it is stalling like that I have had that problem with my V Ride (Kawasaki Motor)
Just an fyi.. The uh check engine light on any EFI vehicle or machinery from pretty much 86 ++ (machinery little later on average) the S. E. S. light should ALWAYS be on in a "K. O. E. O. " (Key On Engine Off) then go out upon startup.
I'm guessing it's an EFI model by the check engine light and electric fuel pump priming the rail. I had a kohler efi on an exmark and the computer went bad and would only run one cylinder. I HATE EFI on a small engine. I'm betting that or the harness for the EFI was the issue. Glad you got your money back, sorry to hear you had issues. I'm narrowing my next choice down to either a 61" Cheetah or a Kubota Z726.
I bought a scag 2015 Scag Turf Tiger I. I have had zero issues over the life of the mower so far. I also know of another guy having a similar issue with his Cheetah. His was charcoal canisters not allowing enough fuel to the mower. Glad now I bought a tried and true design. Will stay away from the new stuff until they work out their issues. Happens with more than Scag.
A good dealer would make it right for the customer
It's not charging, should be around 13.8 volts at full throttle. Running on battery once voltage dropes to low you efi will shut down . And other problems
voltage looks about 1.5 volts low to me.
I noticed right off the bat your charging system isn’t working, it should show on your voltmeter a reading of 13.2 to 14.5 or so volts while running. With it not charging there’s not enough voltage to run your fuel pump, pro and other electrical components. This will make it stall when you engage the pto or even while Idling.
it could two things. the fuel cap could be to tight or you simply need a new battery. i have the turf tiger and it was doing the same. try not tighten the fuel to tight first.
I have a friend that works for a big school district in Texas. Two years ago the school district bought Scags for every grounds crew. This year they are going back to exmark, my friend says the scags have been giving him a lot of trouble and will not buy scags anymore.
joe cabrera
@ Francisco Cabera Please explain what exactly all the issues have been with your friend's Scags. Thanks in advance.
Call scag tell them your dealer cannot figure it out. Maybe they can suggest someone who can fix it.
I know what might be the problem with this mower .my mower did the same thing same model .would not run or turn over So I diagnosed the electrical system with a fluke meter and determined it was the ....... in the control panel that was defective
First it’s Scag not Scags and of all the commercial mowers on the market Scag has the best reputation because they build the best machines. Of course there will be anomalies but to group them together as you do is telling to who you are. You need a dealership capable of fixing it is all but I am sure you’ll spend less on your lawyer than a replacement switch.
check out spencers lawn care same issue. maybe yall can find a solution .
Your voltage is to low, not charging enough. I've had bad alternators that don't put out enough volts to engage PTO but will barely start engine. Plus the new electronic engine controls are set up for 13.5 volts and your meter says your just over 1`2 volts...
^this^
agree to that as well should be almost 14v not 12
good thing kubota zds uses a lever for the blades blade engauging the wet disc for the shaft driven mowers wich last long life and kubota diesels are long lasting life and good feul enfishiond wich less filling up
It’s fuel pump not pto switch
The older units it was the switch if you get the codes it will show fuel pump I was having same problem
now that ive heard this review they may do the same thing to me, not taking a chance to expense to gamble on scag now.
This is been going on for years with Scag. Blaming the PTO switch. And they keep replacing it and it fails. I would suggest Scag go out and buy a new wiring harness that actually works. And someone that actually can install it properly.
looks like to me, you have a loose wire somewhere in the charging system. that PTO switch is the same PTO switch the have used for decades. Looks like to me the loose wire heats the charging system and you have that issue. The clutch will pull down the mower like you have that issue. Looks like to me the service department did a huge disservice to you in not fixing the issue. Looks like to me they just replaced to PTO switch and sent it back. The PTO switch is not the issue, its a loose wire somewhere in the system. looks like to me the dealer did not do their full dealer prep on your mower. Sorry you have issues but the service department did you wrong. Have you called Scag and say Yoohoo I have an issue.....I would be interested to see what Scag had to say. 9 times out of 10 the dealer in their haste to get the product moved don't exactly do their job. Sorry you had issues Call Scag and tell them what the service department told you. You really think Scag would really put out a product that a PTO switch would be defective....I don't think so. They replaced the switch and still have the same issue...sounds like to me the dealers service department screwed up.
agree loose wire somewhere
In my state there is a car lemon law witch is if you have to bring your vehicle to the place where you bought it 3 times for the same issue they have to give you your money back. Maybe that could apply to a $10k lawn mower in your state ??
Only applies to cars......
My cheetah has the 35 horse kohler efi engine. Ran like yours and turned out being a bad oxygen sensor. Been good for last 2 years. Knock on wood
Well, I won't be buying one. My niece has one.
Short to ground blows a fuse sir
Your problem has nothing to do with the PTO switch.
ive got over 1k hrs 1ith a skag just do ur maintenance and she good
all zero mowers need maintenance and they all break down if not maintained etc........
we been having 100% more great and best luck with the kubota and it doest stall plus engine rises down if grass is thick and heavy but engine runs it rpms back up it self wich is the best mower wich why all here in canada gone with reliable kubotas
@@michaelmactavish1728 I wouldn't have a Kubota if you paid me. There are many unhappy Kubota customers and I am one of them.
Scagg dealer support has always been horrible manufacturer does not want to stand up to the warranty great machine when it runs right but dealer support is always horrible with this product probably because of the manufacture
I bet you shop at Giant(s)
I know this video is old, but scag and their dealers are even worse now. I've posted several videos about my 3 brand new scags and their issues. you got lucky with your dealer buying it back, my dealer completely ignored me when i had brought several issues to their attention. when i contacted scag they said when the unit leaves their property it's no longer their responsibility. today in 2022 they are installing cheap Loncin engines with a scag sticker on the engine cover and charging over $7000 for a liberty Z !
My tiger cat 2 and cheetah are animals .
Ha Ha 😆
Try a turf tiger 2
better hope that crap is still under warranty
change the fuel filter
its would seem that if u purchased it last yr it wld be completely under the manufacturers warrenty, the repairs should cost u nothing being that it is still under warrenty, the correct mower engage button is red now with the dealer repair
The only time the problem comes up is when the mower is being used,, in my area we have 5 months mowing season, i cannot give my 10k$ best mower to them for 3 weeks if they need to fix it then they should be proactively calling people to fix it before the part fails,, in the winter,, its not like they dont know who they have sold one of these to in the last couple of years...
Fixt100 Amen brother. I've got a HUSTLER sitting at the stealership now. I'm having to change my mowing schedule like crazy. Because I'm down to a 21 now. Hustler knows and knew all about this issue. That's a defect in their design. I'm losing money now due to turning down work because of their shady business practices. RECALL THE DAMN MOWER! Nooooooooo. That would hurt out reputation in the green industry..... and their pockets. They don't care about my pockets right now. This is why I'm looking at scag videos. As soon as my warranty is out. I'm ditching my Hustler. Toyota,Honda,GM,Ford and who ever else. Take the big hits on a recall. Why can't these mower companies?
yeah thats why kubota's are the best product in market :) plus great feul enfishiond if any you need a good mower a kubota is the way :)
Michael Mac Tavish koboata is good but not in fl. They are to heavy and make ruts
@@michaelmactavish1728 Wrong! Kubota is one of the worst rated and reviewed companies out there.
Bad ground
What about the engine. Im pretty sure you can get these with different engines. Kawasaki briggs kohler. Kawasaki is always your best choice. They make a workhorse. The others: some good. Some not so much. My point is maybe this engine is just crap. Which can happen with any mower that puts inferior engines on their mowers
i bet you its a defective magneto on the flywheel
You are right. I commented above that I had the same problem because I had loose wires on a coil causing the engine to misfire. Ended up soldering the lugs on the coils and that fixed it. The wires may look tight but vibration rules all.
They had no choice but to use those switches. Their is only one switch manufacturer and all manufacturers are having issues. Not scags fault. Replace the switch and have a spare on hand. Problem solved until the manufacturer gets their tooling straightened out. Directly from scags engineer and my dealers mouth.
joe rogan sent me here.
This video gives me a headache !!!
The owner of this machine !
Is about as unknowledgeable as an owner can get !
I do not have that big a problem with unknowledgeable owners !
But you should understand
To be this ignorant
Puts you at the mercy of not just everyone and everything !
But your own personal ignorance !
There is just not a nice way of saying it !
Not charging, you on 12volts it should 14.2 volts
When running 14.2 volts
Koehler or Kawasaki? Go with the Kawasaki
It ain't the mower it is the operator
Take it to a different/more knowledgeable dealership for service. Your dealer obviously doesn’t have a good mechanic!!! I’ve owned several scags and they are great machines... I’ve never heard of a pto switch causing a mower to stall out.
Theres been a couple scags that ive seen have a PTO switch issue where it would prevent the mower from turning on unless you wiggled it, but those were all high hour machines and it would never cause a stall.
SEAFOAM OR STAYBIL! you need it!
I'll buy it from you for 100 dollars
You are being told false information. The Check Engine light is tied to your ENGINE computer. It needs to be plugged in and diagnosed. It will have a code that will identify the engine sensor that is faulty. No switch on the mower itself would cause the check engine light to illuminate and run badly like that. The CE light only applies to the engine system itself. Go to Scag.com, send a contact in via their contact page. Let them know your check engine light is on and your dealer has not been able to fix it. They will have a regional service manager get involved and help you get this resolved.
This guy is right. SCAG used similar OBD1 light flash codes. Your problem is either loose pto ground or rectifier. Please quit trying to be a mechanic. You are only confusing yourself and others
My skag is the best
Rob Lee I'm thinking about buying an scag nexts, I been running exmark n craftman..
Check your grounds on the mower....stop being lazy and figure it out yourself.
Ryan51984@yahoo Westfall
For what this thing cost He should NOT have to figure it out for himself. That is what dealers and warrantys are for. Personally, I would thank my lucky stars that the dealer offered my money back and RUN, not walk away. I do not support a company that will not support me after I spend my money with them. Not gonna happen.
For 10 grand plus you shouldn't need to do shit yourself.
Buy a toro zmaster, save yourself thousands and no headaches...
shagbark54 hahaha
Also try ferris
i use to own a scag an awesome machine, but after scag store treating u like shit, i'll get something different, they sound good on tv and other advertisements, but if they wont sell you another one, scags store is a liar and full of shit.
Drama, get a real mechanic...
i have an idea stop buying scag mowers...
stop grifting, if scag sucks fine, but you are starting the mower wrong. full choke, slow speed, crank for 15 seconds or so- this essentially primes the motor, no choke, slow speed, turn key start, DOES START, run for a few minutes, engage pto at half to two thirds speed, then increase speed to full. mow yards, conquer all bankers and politicians with newly found independent contractor, in practice but not on paper, status. ps taxes are gay. best of luck homie.