Thanks for the video, very clear! But I tried to go to the website but it is not reachable, at least not here in the Netherlands. (it says I could turn off my firewall but I don't wanna)
@@francel0198 8gb one has the 128 bit the 12gb one has 192bit also no that is not "very low for the price range" the rx 6700 has 160 bit and 6700 xt has 192 bit
Once the 6700 XT drops even more it will prolly be the best price to performance graphics card out there since it also has 12 GB VRAM and it can even do 1440p
Just bought a brand new 3060 12gb for 279… can’t beat that, and my last gpu gtx 1070 last me till now and is actually still working very well, I only upgraded because the price was too good to pass up
@@deagle7602but nvidia is more customizable, more advanced technology (ray tracing, dlss etc) and better settings, better menu interface, more practical in these aspects
@@alfonso5177from what i seen you have to use shark for amd , if you want to use sable difusion you will to be on linux ,also amd doesnt really compete in that area compared to nvidia ,also in productivy and rendering in things like blender, nvidia always wins , also i am getting an rx 6800 next week so 😂
@@alfonso5177Nope Nvidia still king there you know if you amd fan boys got Amd to develop Amd workstation performance, Amd would be a genuine threat to Nvidia i would love to see it
Why does it "sucks", they both have their advantages, for example, AMD being more price/competitive, u get more vram and more raw power, and now with the lastest driver u get Frame generation even on RX 6000 (rtx 3000 equivalent) on any game that runs dx10,11,12, opengl and vulkan, also Video Upscalling (CZcams or movies, media content, etc), new series has AV1 codec, so "nvidia for streaming and recording" is not a reazon anymore, drivers are good and satable (Not like 2015 times), nvidia has better RT perfomance and DLSS looks like 5-10% better than FSR 2.2/FSR 3, but thats all, there no a good reazon for being a fanboy nowdays. If nvidia drops an exclusive DLSS, will be for serie rtx 5000 or 6000, and not compatibl with 3000/4000 or olders, AMD still giving old gens the new technology. @@mahjoubadam1742
I can 100% vouch on this take. My main PC is rocking the 3060 and has kept me happy for the most part, but I recently made a PC flip that included the 6600 XT and it absolutely SMASHED my personal PC’s benchmarks. I get on average 140 frames on Apex with the highest settings, but the 6600 XT was able to average around 40-60 frames higher. It was a very noticeable difference. Zach’s takes are always #1
@@XenoghostTVbrain dead. The XT gets almost double the performance at 1440p and about 25% more at 1080p. It trades blows with the 3060Ti. You cant go by on paper techpowerup lmao. In actual performance use. This is the reality. Look up a video for crying out loud.
one exception is that the 12gb 3060 is one of the cheapest GPUs you can find that has that much VRAM, so it's a fantastic choice for AI accel on the cheap
@@nezz98 I'm curious, does it work well with AI projects? coz, afaik you need a lot of VRAM and drivers for it ( from what others said, amd doesnt seem to have it ). I might be wrong, but Im asking this since I got a 3060 last week AND im a bit confused from these AMD shorts.
@@arandomguy9669 AMD cards don't have the greatest support for AI accel tasks and generally have kinda shitty throughput for it anyways due to lacking Tensor cores and whatnot, which is why i specifically recommended a 3060 but for gaming, which is what 99% of people use a GPU for, AMD cards are a fantastic value because you're not having to pay for all the AI silicon you're not gonna be using, plus they generally use much less power than the average NVIDIA card
The 6650 XT actually beats the 4060 as well which is crazy. AMD on top but I believe the intel Battlemage will become the best price to performance GPU line up
@@toodoo44Incorrect. The 3060 is very fast and even though it is slightly worse than the other one the 12gb of Vram means a lot when you are doing things such as rendering.
You have to look at this as a comparison to the previous giants on the list. It was one of the 10-series cards. The jump in performance from 10 to 30 is pretty substantial. And as someone who isn't very well versed in tech myself, plugging in another Nvidia card and the driver stuff being handled quickly and easily by geforce experience is one of those reasons why I have been skittish about switching to AMD. It's not quite as automatic as with Nvidia. Supposedly anyway. My point is, it's easy for me to see why 3060 was the step up. It's familiar, definitely an upgrade, most likely went for the 12 GB vram option, for amateurs like me, it looks like the obvious choice.
i recently upgraded from a 3060ti to a 7900xtx for just 900 bucks and although there are a bit more issues with the card, its still the second best graphics card on the market for less than half the price of the best card.
second best graphics card on the market for rasterized gaming* i went with a 4080 for $989 on prime big deals due to the fact that fsr 2 is just hot dog shit and I do more than just gaming
@@reijikashihara4645 you do realize you dont see the bottom of the card right? And that different companies make different looking cards of the same model? I ain't broke cuz I didn't waste my money on a 3060. Bro you don't even know anything about drivers and you using that as a reason.
@@Aspw001a guy can use your ram if it is useing up all its ram and if you have 32 gb like me it dosen't matter I'm getting the rtx 4060 it would be a perfect match with my ryzen 5 3600
Just playing games, yes. If you want to do anything else, you have to get nVidia. Hope AMD 8000 series finally get it going where we do not need to have to have NV card for anything other than gaming......(well, AMD works, but there need to be a lot of work around and software support)
@@Justgreen89925 Trust me, anything other than those software (handbrake also works), AMD card will not work. Cannot get hardware transcoded on H265 (only H264 works on GPU), not acceptable. Especially it should be supported. Also, Premiere is very expensive. I do not have that kind of money to pay for it. (Not asking for free, but something more affordable especially since I am not using it to make money)
@@Justgreen89925Blender has special Nvidia Acceleration. Nvidia Cards have NVENC codec which just shits on anything from AMD. Anything engineering related just shames AMD as well. AI just doesn't work with AMD cards. CUDA is a huge problem. Nvidia NSight is extremely valuable as a tool for people in the industry. Solidworks also uses hardware exclusive to Nvidia cards. Nvidia has collaborations with universities where they teach people about their tech. AMD does not do that. As a result 100% of the commercial GPU market is occupied with Nvidia and they are the industry standard. That is why all commercial software only work with Nvidia cards. Stop defending AMD cards cause they are only good at gaming and just accept that. A lot of us aren't just pure gamers and have jobs/hobbyists who need Nvidia cards to help us out. GPUs aren't just for games in 2023 and reviewers not conveying this information is honestly misleading. Also let's not forget that we are comparing raw performance here. Both AMD and Nvidia cards can handle light games very well and provide 200+fps. What really matters is the heavy games and there too Nvidia is just better with DLSS+FrameGen and the ray Tracing tech is just better. It also has Nvidia reflex for esports and I could continue this list but my hands are tired at this point. Yes the GPUs are expensive but AMD is not a better deal either.
@@rohansingh1057 You mentioned Solidworks, what about Creo - ex Pro/Engineer? A long time ago I did modeling of machine elements in Solidworks (and very little in AutoCAD), but I haven't done it for years, even though it's my profession. Recently a friend offered me to do modeling in Creo, so I need a new PC ASAP. I guess something like a GTX 1660 Super would be enough for me, but I've been eyeing the RX 6700XT, but your comment has me completely confused. What do you suggest? I'm also thinking about RTX 3060ti, or maybe used RTX 3070, or even GTX 1080ti. I don't even know which CPU to get, maybe i5 12400 or Ryzen 5 5600x, I stopped following trends when it comes to hardware a long time ago. I primarily need it for work and light gaming on a 1440p monitor, although I already have an Xbox for that.
U know, nvidia do have problems in like 1% but for amd its way more common, so his statement is basicaly wrong. Amd has problems with drivers, nvidia doesnt. But it doesnt justify nvidia prices
@@ApocratesDexter Nvidia price is like what Apple price their product, overprice. Also my opinion about AMD's GPU is that its need configuration for it to work without trouble, after reading a lot of people's experience about AMD Driver, some of them say "I don't have any problem" And some say "I have problem" Even though they are use the same type of GPU (like Rx 6600) one still have problem might because by different PC component that might cause trouble to AMD's GPU.
@@kamipa5441 The comparison of Nvidia with Apple isnt correct in the slightest. Nvidia got features and more performant features that people actually use in daily life
Or, just go with the RX 6600 XT. You can find them in great secondhand condition for less than $350 AUD / $235 USD. Very solid for 1080p and even 1440p gaming. This current generation is best skipped although should the 7600's price drop to below $250 USD then it's going to be an easy recommendation.
How was it not obvious to you that we’re talking about new cards? Is used a good option? Yes, but don’t underestimate just how valuable the peace of mind from buying new is for many people, and the convenience.
@@joelconolly5574in rasterized gaming may be so, but video or blender rendering is miles better on NVIDIA and the encoder is much better on NVIDIA too
I've started working as a IT technician for the past four months and I've yet to see a single pc with amd graphics driver problems. Keep in mind most of the pc's we get in have either a rx 570 or 580 . But we have had to roll back a couple of Nvidia drivers.
Kinda surprising, I run a 570 in my PC and only faced some driver issues when overclocking (in particular, memory timings won’t apply after a reboot, but afaik that’s not limited to polaris cards)
Ive made multiple pcs with amd gpus and have not once come across a driver issue. I feel like nvidia fanboy’s last excuse to try and make nvidia look better is to say that amd has worse drivers.
rx 570 and 580 were always stable and good. Try some RDNA1 and you will see what a shitshow it was/is. I dont know about RDNA2, but i would still say, that it has way more problems than the Nvidia counter-part.
@@toodoo44 Why though? I’ve stated that fast memory timings won’t save after a reboot (while all the other wattman settings do) and I have to do it manually. It’ll say it uses faster timings while actual performance is like normal timings unless I reapply it. This driver issue isn’t new and there are some reddit threads about it.
Made the switch to AMD and have not regretted it- especially if you have an amd chip, they work so well together and some actually support raytracing (which honestly feels like a waste to framerates)
@byronyoung5818 were you switching from nvidia and makining an actual step up? I went from a 2070 super (an absolute beast in 1080 for a long time) but when I decided to go to 1440p, decided that 6900xt would be best bang for buck for what I was looking for
I got the MSI 6650 XT Gaming X and its a beautiful gpu with rgb and amazing performance! My cpu is the ryzen 5 5600 and it works also very fast and i have no bottleneck
Never had any problem of driver when I had an Nvidia card. I have owned a 7900XT for two months and I ran into several driver problems. I actually had to roll back to a previous version. You can't say there are no problems with AMD or less. Feels way more in my case.
That is really good advice because I am helping a friends brother, but are still in the part-pickingphase and actually the rx 6650 got a lot of backlash so when I looked it up I found less complaints about the 6650 and the 3060, which I why I was going to ho with the 6650
@@aregulargenericname8794and all the other people who’ve made the 3060 / ti so popular. Still find it funny how AMD fans are always try to prove something. Just pick what works for you.
@@mastertang4200 not at all, rather reliability. If AMD is your preferred vendor that's great, it just amuses me how folk buy them then feel the need to prove / justify their choice.
I have upgraded but I still have my Rx570 😅 just gonna keep it for the apocalypse. It's survived this long, same with my og elite Xbox 360. It's just preloaded with banger games 😂
I'm looking to set up an eGPU via a Thunderbolt 4 connection for my laptop, which has an i7-1255u. Could you guide me on the necessary parts I need, the setup process, and also recommend a budget GPU compatible with my laptop?
Yes but u could consider the rtx 2080 8gb or 11gb and rtx 2070 that are still very good price to performance (used) i foud an rtx 2080 ti 11gb for 330 euros
@@anarchy6417no one is using RT with either and actually it does trade blows with the 3060ti. The 6700xt especially at 1440p is almost double the fps as well.
The 3060 has Ray racing cores, and amazing features like DLSS. It also has a built in video encoder which makes it so so much better for streaming and content creation than an AMD GPU.
It all depends on what you want to use it for. If you want to run AI apps like Stable Diffusion, you needs CUDA support which is only provided with an NVIDIA card.
I agree 3070 ti for $200 is a great value. Problems with used parts and it's Not your gpu ingeneral is how long they will last before performance starts decreasing in the future and if it has some damages outside which will affect aesthetics of the pc. Some people would buy good lookin parts over performance. if they we're trying to flex to there freinds or something etc. Lol
Nice effort but i think its pretty much pointless. Ive had this suspicion for a long time but rtx 3000 and rdna2 confirmed to me that for some reason people want nvidia to become a monopoly. Rdna2 was beating Ampere in basically all reviews not just in regards to price but performance as well unless you really needed Ray tracing or 4k. Still 90% of sales were nvidia. I dont know why. Im really at a loss on this one
I grabbed a brand new PowerColor Fighter RX 6650 XT for $210 back in early December. The same card is still only $230 on Amazon at the moment. I could not be more impressed with the performance of this card, especially for how little I paid for it.
As someone thats owned AMD and Nvidia I can tell u right now that AMD 100% has more driver issues at least the newer ones. The older ones as they recieve driver updates do become more and more stable. I still think AMD gpus are worth buying but AMD driver timeout errors are a very real thing.
I have a 7900 xt and haven’t run into a single driver issue since buying my pc over 5 months ago. Your personal experience might be different but from my experience your just as likely to have driver issues from nvidia as you are from amd.
Ive had my 6800xt for 8 months. Only game ive experienced a driver issue is star wars battlefront 2. Other than that, no issues at all. I love my 6800xt.
I have a rx 5700 in my PC and yes it has some driver issues even after 4 years of owning it. But those issues rarely happen. It doesn't ruin my games constantly and completely. In some games driver timeouts happen rarely or never. In some games more often. I play mostly pirated games but also from steam and epic too. So the problem could be more from the pirated games then from the Amd driver.
I live in a country where electronics pricing is messy because almost everything is imported with varied taxes, making AMD & Nvidia usually evenly priced. I go with AMD because those cards have more reliabitly and lifespan. Two Nvidia cards died on me, three if you count the "I'm seeing signs".
bought my 3060 on november 2022 for 450€, about two months later it was 80-100€ cheaper and now its only 300€ :) still paying for it and i already returned it for warranty repairing cuz fan bearings
its down to features, rn nvidia have tensor core and stronger RT core if youre tend to AI stuff and ray tracing, but for gaming without RT and relative better RAM capacity / dollar radeon is better
good arguement but nvidia has more software and ai technologies which are incomparable to amd's. If you want to stay on team green, then this is the card
These looped endings are actually getting so annoying because yes it connects to the start but if you just end it there it makes no sense, the only time it’s actually good is when the ending makes sense AND loops with the start
Got a 3060 back during the scalping days for like $700. I was impatient and made a rash purchase. Don't regret it one bit though, cause I've had a great time with it since. In 2024, I'd just get an AMD card tbh
Sent two amd cards back a few days ago. Two different pc one with windows 10, one new build will widows 11. Both crashed constantly. Put a 1660 super in no problems, put my rx 580 in no issues. 7000 series card driver issue are real.
AMD driver issues is always an issue. AMD has always had issues and I my latest upgrade was AMD and while I feel like I got more value for money the issues that I deal with sporadically remind me of this ever prevailing issue
I'm about to build a system with a ryzen 7 3700x and a rtx 2070 super in it I know the system doesn't have much of a upgrade path but I bought the cpu and gpu almost 2 years ago but stuff came up and I'm finally going to build it from what Ives seen it's not to bad performance wise today but this will be the fist computer I build for myself I've only ever tinkered with my friends computers if they let me but seeing how I've only had good things said about my work I hope my personal build turns out just as good
For those who want to do AI related stuff (like just using models) you should consider 3060 12gb bcs for the price and tight budget, It will do a really good job handling those things. I don't own one personally but see many such heavy users use them for this purpose
that statistic on steam are mostly come from asia in asia it tough to find amd card (the import is expensive unlike in America or Canada u can just walk in micro center and see rx 6600xt on shelf ) that’s why nvidia dominate the chart.
The problem is in different countries stuff is priced different Here in my country an rtx 4060 (the worst price to performance gpu) Is actually one of the best in my place because of the price range it is. Idk if this happened because of the negative response And it has frame gen (which is obviously not something that i should say but its still a nice addon) And its still a nice upgrade from gtx 1650
Depends, for most gamers, you probably wont use the RT cores, but if you use DLSS, or blender, get the 3060, it has the same performance as the 2070S and has better DLSS than it. The 6650XT will work now, but might not in 3-4 years time
I gave AMD 3 chances on video cards, and sadly the driver issues ruined team red for me at least for gpus, I still rock my ryzen cpus but gonna be nvidia all the way for me from now on
@@Alpine_flo92002This dude literally builds hundreds of PCs for his business. If he doesn’t find them an issue, I don’t think it’s an issue for the vast majority of cases. Same with most other tech CZcamsrs.
@@Polymath2B If a sponsored tech youtuber doesnt find issues then either its because he is sponsored or has a bias like basically every human being. I for one build computers for companies and for my own sanity only use Nvidia Cards for mid-higher end customers and intel CPUs for high uptime requirements. AMD or Intel CPUs if certain aspects are needed like Intel Accelerators or High AMD core count and density and cache. AMD cards I usually reserve for Applications requiring many displays at a low price like for Mcdonalds or video walls. Most of my private customers are either people who need office PCs or Gaming PCs. Office PCs for higher end users I switched to AMD APUs for lower end "Dad" like office PCs I go with Intel because of reliability and stability. Gaming PCs I take what the user demands as most "Gamer" customers come in saying "I have XYZ Budget and want AMD/Intel CPU and want a AMD/NVIDIA GPU". Then I try to recommend based on what fits and then have to readjust because its rare that someone who wants AMD will accept Nvidia or someone who wants Nvidia to accept AMD and god forbid I recommend Intel to anyone but for content creation servers
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Thanks for the video, very clear! But I tried to go to the website but it is not reachable, at least not here in the Netherlands. (it says I could turn off my firewall but I don't wanna)
I can't tap the link
but i need nvenc and 12 gb vram for editing :(
@@Kevin_Billy youtube updated where you cant press links
Lmk when you take this video down now that 10% of steam users have a 3060
As long as you get a 12 gb 3060 you should be fine and especially used
128 bits...
it’s like 300 bucks rn
@@francel0198 3060 12gb is 192 bits tho
@@gokay2delen636 it's depends, one have 128 and others have 192bits. But still very low in compare with other graphics card at the same price range
@@francel0198 8gb one has the 128 bit the 12gb one has 192bit also no that is not "very low for the price range" the rx 6700 has 160 bit and 6700 xt has 192 bit
Once the 6700 XT drops even more it will prolly be the best price to performance graphics card out there since it also has 12 GB VRAM and it can even do 1440p
that already dropped long ago wdym?
And it will still have less than 0.5% market share lol 😂 nobody is buying AMD
@@Shadow_RTS it will drop even more as new amd card launches
@@Mist11305 of course
@@tylerclayton6081hat's why they are cheap
Just bought a brand new 3060 12gb for 279… can’t beat that, and my last gpu gtx 1070 last me till now and is actually still working very well, I only upgraded because the price was too good to pass up
Not bad. But a $310 6700xt wouldve been way better for only a bit more money.
@@deagle7602 it's 6700xt good for work?
@@deagle7602but nvidia is more customizable, more advanced technology (ray tracing, dlss etc) and better settings, better menu interface, more practical in these aspects
Which model?
@@ronnieclarinjavrj3948amd can use raytracing and dlss as fsr so idk what ur talking about
For gaming yes. For playing with AI and ML like Stable Diffusion, 12GB VRAM on 3060 is a steal.
Amd launched a driver specially for stable diffusion, so not.
Then 20 usd more and get 6700 xt that is even better and has 12gb (beats rtx 3070 in most games or equal it)
@@alfonso5177what 6700 xt u mean can u type the name fully? I want look it up on google
@@alfonso5177from what i seen you have to use shark for amd , if you want to use sable difusion you will to be on linux ,also amd doesnt really compete in that area compared to nvidia ,also in productivy and rendering in things like blender, nvidia always wins , also i am getting an rx 6800 next week so 😂
@@alfonso5177Nope Nvidia still king there you know if you amd fan boys got Amd to develop Amd workstation performance, Amd would be a genuine threat to Nvidia i would love to see it
I got the 3060 mainly because of me worrying abouy vram, its also that the 6650 xt was only around 30 bucks cheaper than a 3060 where i live
What about the 6700 xt?
Then 10 usd more and get 6700 non xt that is even better (like a 3060 ti)
@@alfonso5177 AMD sucks bro, Nvidia has all the latest technologies, what if another DLSS-like technology drops and is exclusive to Nvidia again?
Why does it "sucks", they both have their advantages, for example, AMD being more price/competitive, u get more vram and more raw power, and now with the lastest driver u get Frame generation even on RX 6000 (rtx 3000 equivalent) on any game that runs dx10,11,12, opengl and vulkan, also Video Upscalling (CZcams or movies, media content, etc), new series has AV1 codec, so "nvidia for streaming and recording" is not a reazon anymore, drivers are good and satable (Not like 2015 times), nvidia has better RT perfomance and DLSS looks like 5-10% better than FSR 2.2/FSR 3, but thats all, there no a good reazon for being a fanboy nowdays.
If nvidia drops an exclusive DLSS, will be for serie rtx 5000 or 6000, and not compatibl with 3000/4000 or olders, AMD still giving old gens the new technology. @@mahjoubadam1742
@@mahjoubadam1742 💀💀💀
I can 100% vouch on this take. My main PC is rocking the 3060 and has kept me happy for the most part, but I recently made a PC flip that included the 6600 XT and it absolutely SMASHED my personal PC’s benchmarks. I get on average 140 frames on Apex with the highest settings, but the 6600 XT was able to average around 40-60 frames higher. It was a very noticeable difference.
Zach’s takes are always #1
6600 xt should be better than the 3060 since it's an xt card. The 6600 should be compared to 3060 ti to make it fair.
No shit, you got yourself a 6 or 8 GB VRAM 3060 rather than a 12 GB one.
@@XenoghostTVand how do you know?
@@XenoghostTVbrain dead. The XT gets almost double the performance at 1440p and about 25% more at 1080p. It trades blows with the 3060Ti. You cant go by on paper techpowerup lmao. In actual performance use. This is the reality. Look up a video for crying out loud.
one exception is that the 12gb 3060 is one of the cheapest GPUs you can find that has that much VRAM, so it's a fantastic choice for AI accel on the cheap
rx 6700 xt is day and night better
@@nezz98 I'm curious, does it work well with AI projects? coz, afaik you need a lot of VRAM and drivers for it ( from what others said, amd doesnt seem to have it ). I might be wrong, but Im asking this since I got a 3060 last week AND im a bit confused from these AMD shorts.
@@arandomguy9669 yeah rx 6700xt has 12 gb of vram
@@arandomguy9669 AMD cards don't have the greatest support for AI accel tasks and generally have kinda shitty throughput for it anyways due to lacking Tensor cores and whatnot, which is why i specifically recommended a 3060
but for gaming, which is what 99% of people use a GPU for, AMD cards are a fantastic value because you're not having to pay for all the AI silicon you're not gonna be using, plus they generally use much less power than the average NVIDIA card
@@nezz98only for gaming, for blender and other important applications nvida’s tech is an absolute must you cannot work without
The 6650 XT actually beats the 4060 as well which is crazy. AMD on top but I believe the intel Battlemage will become the best price to performance GPU line up
Where i live they're at the same price and i actually bought a 3060 instead of the 6650 because it has 12gb of vram and the nvenc codec
Do not mention the nvenc codec. There's literally no difference and you're not streaming at 4k
3060 is anyway slow. And 12gb almost meaningless in it
@@toodoo44Incorrect. The 3060 is very fast and even though it is slightly worse than the other one the 12gb of Vram means a lot when you are doing things such as rendering.
@@Shiddarutostill native graphics are better to play without dlss and fsr
In which amd is better
So amd smashes there
@@Shiddarutofr FSR literally just sharpens the image causing the game to look grainy.
maybe prices have changed but I just bought a White 3060 for like $270 brand new
8gb?
the rx 6600 is 200-220$ nowadays and the 6650 xt is 280$ for gaming only? yeah both of these beats rtx 3060
You have to look at this as a comparison to the previous giants on the list. It was one of the 10-series cards. The jump in performance from 10 to 30 is pretty substantial. And as someone who isn't very well versed in tech myself, plugging in another Nvidia card and the driver stuff being handled quickly and easily by geforce experience is one of those reasons why I have been skittish about switching to AMD. It's not quite as automatic as with Nvidia. Supposedly anyway. My point is, it's easy for me to see why 3060 was the step up. It's familiar, definitely an upgrade, most likely went for the 12 GB vram option, for amateurs like me, it looks like the obvious choice.
i recently upgraded from a 3060ti to a 7900xtx for just 900 bucks and although there are a bit more issues with the card, its still the second best graphics card on the market for less than half the price of the best card.
"just" $900... even then the 7900XTX is overpriced.
second best graphics card on the market for rasterized gaming*
i went with a 4080 for $989 on prime big deals due to the fact that fsr 2 is just hot dog shit and I do more than just gaming
@@casmithhcongrats, we don’t care
me who just bought a 12gb 3060 last week:
shut up amd nerd
Same lol I Bought the gamming x model with rgb for $309 and I could care less about this ugly ass card.
Yall got scammed like crazy 💀. Love when people spend a hundred extra bucks and be like amd bad xuz i said so.
@@vectorperkins5666 if u broke jus say so lmao , im not gonna go out of my way to have an ugly ass card with drivers i dont like just to save 100$
@@reijikashihara4645 you do realize you dont see the bottom of the card right? And that different companies make different looking cards of the same model? I ain't broke cuz I didn't waste my money on a 3060. Bro you don't even know anything about drivers and you using that as a reason.
@@reijikashihara4645nvidia sheep over here
12gb is needed for streaming and future proofing. Do not buy 8gb
Are you streamer?
Not all need to be a streamer
need more than 8gb vram game is only hogwarts legacy rt
I'm gonna get thr rtx 4060 my pc has 32 gb and a ryzen 5 3600 your gpu can use ram if needed
@@Aspw001a guy can use your ram if it is useing up all its ram and if you have 32 gb like me it dosen't matter I'm getting the rtx 4060 it would be a perfect match with my ryzen 5 3600
Its an okay price card that gives u access to DLSS, theres no loss in either case tbh
Even with DLSS on t he RX 6650 XT is faster, because raw power, also we have FSR 2.2 wich is like 90 to 95% of dlss
@@alfonso5177the 3060 gives acess to 12 gb of vram so there is still no loss, just buy what advantages you prefer
@@alfonso5177 bro fsr dosen't compare with dlss 3.5 in any way in terms of image quality in some games dlss better than native quality
@@alfonso5177 60 to 65% in terms of quality 😭
@@alfonso5177fsr is thrash compared to dlss
Just playing games, yes. If you want to do anything else, you have to get nVidia. Hope AMD 8000 series finally get it going where we do not need to have to have NV card for anything other than gaming......(well, AMD works, but there need to be a lot of work around and software support)
@will3641 nvidia shill
I use my RX5700XT for Premiere Pro, Blender and streaming and it works amazing, i don't know what is your problem w them
@@Justgreen89925 Trust me, anything other than those software (handbrake also works), AMD card will not work. Cannot get hardware transcoded on H265 (only H264 works on GPU), not acceptable. Especially it should be supported. Also, Premiere is very expensive. I do not have that kind of money to pay for it. (Not asking for free, but something more affordable especially since I am not using it to make money)
@@Justgreen89925Blender has special Nvidia Acceleration. Nvidia Cards have NVENC codec which just shits on anything from AMD.
Anything engineering related just shames AMD as well. AI just doesn't work with AMD cards. CUDA is a huge problem. Nvidia NSight is extremely valuable as a tool for people in the industry. Solidworks also uses hardware exclusive to Nvidia cards.
Nvidia has collaborations with universities where they teach people about their tech. AMD does not do that. As a result 100% of the commercial GPU market is occupied with Nvidia and they are the industry standard. That is why all commercial software only work with Nvidia cards.
Stop defending AMD cards cause they are only good at gaming and just accept that. A lot of us aren't just pure gamers and have jobs/hobbyists who need Nvidia cards to help us out. GPUs aren't just for games in 2023 and reviewers not conveying this information is honestly misleading.
Also let's not forget that we are comparing raw performance here. Both AMD and Nvidia cards can handle light games very well and provide 200+fps. What really matters is the heavy games and there too Nvidia is just better with DLSS+FrameGen and the ray Tracing tech is just better.
It also has Nvidia reflex for esports and I could continue this list but my hands are tired at this point.
Yes the GPUs are expensive but AMD is not a better deal either.
@@rohansingh1057 You mentioned Solidworks, what about Creo - ex Pro/Engineer?
A long time ago I did modeling of machine elements in Solidworks (and very little in AutoCAD), but I haven't done it for years, even though it's my profession. Recently a friend offered me to do modeling in Creo, so I need a new PC ASAP. I guess something like a GTX 1660 Super would be enough for me, but I've been eyeing the RX 6700XT, but your comment has me completely confused.
What do you suggest? I'm also thinking about RTX 3060ti, or maybe used RTX 3070, or even GTX 1080ti. I don't even know which CPU to get, maybe i5 12400 or Ryzen 5 5600x, I stopped following trends when it comes to hardware a long time ago. I primarily need it for work and light gaming on a 1440p monitor, although I already have an Xbox for that.
I gotta agree with your opinion, every driver might have issue but most of them have solution. We gotta learn the solution and fix the problem.
U know, nvidia do have problems in like 1% but for amd its way more common, so his statement is basicaly wrong. Amd has problems with drivers, nvidia doesnt. But it doesnt justify nvidia prices
@@ApocratesDexter Nvidia price is like what Apple price their product, overprice. Also my opinion about AMD's GPU is that its need configuration for it to work without trouble, after reading a lot of people's experience about AMD Driver, some of them say "I don't have any problem" And some say "I have problem" Even though they are use the same type of GPU (like Rx 6600) one still have problem might because by different PC component that might cause trouble to AMD's GPU.
AMD really need to focus on their Driver problem in the next series
@@kamipa5441 The comparison of Nvidia with Apple isnt correct in the slightest. Nvidia got features and more performant features that people actually use in daily life
its 240$ now super good deal getting it asap🔥
I have it it’s amazing
same
I've had this card since it was new. It's great, but the coils have been making noise since they were new.
I got it for 250 when a 2060 costed 1k(in the crypto miner times) I’m perfectly happy with it
I just bought the rx6650xt for my first PC. Its great.
No rtx on nor dlss
@@Star-py8zl who cares about the rtx they looked the same
Or, just go with the RX 6600 XT. You can find them in great secondhand condition for less than $350 AUD / $235 USD. Very solid for 1080p and even 1440p gaming. This current generation is best skipped although should the 7600's price drop to below $250 USD then it's going to be an easy recommendation.
How was it not obvious to you that we’re talking about new cards? Is used a good option? Yes, but don’t underestimate just how valuable the peace of mind from buying new is for many people, and the convenience.
@@DeepfriedBeans4492 Shut up, nerd.
@@DeepfriedBeans4492many cannot just simply afford the convenience lmao
I saw the RX 6600 XT beeing sold new for 240 and below now
The 3060 did drop to around the same proce as a 6650xt locally so that price advantage isn't as much as it used to be.
yes but performance is still worse than the AMD card.
@@joelconolly5574in rasterized gaming may be so, but video or blender rendering is miles better on NVIDIA and the encoder is much better on NVIDIA too
Bought 3060 12gb for Ai Stable Diffusion. For just gaming, yes go AMD. For both, 3060 12gb is good for beginners.
12gb 3060 on Newegg for $280 now
This channel always say NVIDIA bad and and good
Cuz that's how it is nowdays lmao
Is the rx 7600 gud? Im clueless in terms of pcs so can I hav a bit of help 😅.
I just planned a pc build for my friend and since he wants to have good graphics at 1080p, he’s getting a 12gb 3060 with a ryzen 9 5900x
I've started working as a IT technician for the past four months and I've yet to see a single pc with amd graphics driver problems. Keep in mind most of the pc's we get in have either a rx 570 or 580 .
But we have had to roll back a couple of Nvidia drivers.
Kinda surprising, I run a 570 in my PC and only faced some driver issues when overclocking (in particular, memory timings won’t apply after a reboot, but afaik that’s not limited to polaris cards)
Ive made multiple pcs with amd gpus and have not once come across a driver issue. I feel like nvidia fanboy’s last excuse to try and make nvidia look better is to say that amd has worse drivers.
rx 570 and 580 were always stable and good. Try some RDNA1 and you will see what a shitshow it was/is. I dont know about RDNA2, but i would still say, that it has way more problems than the Nvidia counter-part.
@@zextakamania2086 so, it's your fault. Not driver's
@@toodoo44 Why though? I’ve stated that fast memory timings won’t save after a reboot (while all the other wattman settings do) and I have to do it manually. It’ll say it uses faster timings while actual performance is like normal timings unless I reapply it. This driver issue isn’t new and there are some reddit threads about it.
Or go for the 7600
yeah go for the card that has VRAM problems today not in a few years, today
when i got my used 12gb 3060, i picked it up for quite a bit cheaper than any comparable card so i'm pretty happy with that
Around where I live, these two cost the same so yeah I’m getting the 3060 (I’m not saying amd cards suck I’m just more familiar with nvidia)
3060 TI IS GOOD FOR CREATIVE PROFESSIONALS
8GB VRAM is ass
It's really only viable if you need the better encoder or CUDA cores
@@ninexf let me introduce you to Intel iGPUs which can do double the encoding amount for free, instead of paying 2000$ for a low tier GPU
Get a Quadro
@@top.of.redditwhat is this
Made the switch to AMD and have not regretted it- especially if you have an amd chip, they work so well together and some actually support raytracing (which honestly feels like a waste to framerates)
I got a 6600 worst idea ever if I would’ve went up more it might’ve been better
@byronyoung5818 were you switching from nvidia and makining an actual step up? I went from a 2070 super (an absolute beast in 1080 for a long time) but when I decided to go to 1440p, decided that 6900xt would be best bang for buck for what I was looking for
@@seananderson5748 yea I was on nivida and went to 6600 it just stutters to much
I got the MSI 6650 XT Gaming X and its a beautiful gpu with rgb and amazing performance! My cpu is the ryzen 5 5600 and it works also very fast and i have no bottleneck
Never had any problem of driver when I had an Nvidia card. I have owned a 7900XT for two months and I ran into several driver problems. I actually had to roll back to a previous version. You can't say there are no problems with AMD or less. Feels way more in my case.
Got a 3060ti for 270 used and honestly best decision ever
The prices are even lower now it’s insane.
@@johnnytv7620on jit
250
8gb tho is a rip
@@AssassinIsAfkim pretty sure 3060 ti will be fine for next 6 to 8 years in 1080p
why do I see this video 4 days after I bought my 3060 ?
the algorithm loves to see pain
if you got the 12gb vram 3060, it's ok
@High Low yea I got the 12gb
Same but it’s 6 months for me
@@highlow8683what about me I got the 6gb one
That is really good advice because I am helping a friends brother, but are still in the part-pickingphase and actually the rx 6650 got a lot of backlash so when I looked it up I found less complaints about the 6650 and the 3060, which I why I was going to ho with the 6650
I got this gpu at Christmas and it's great I'm glad it's getting more recognition
Disclaimer:- this video is made by collaboration between amd and this creator
Because obviously this brand cannot make a better product then my favourite brand
@@aregulargenericname8794and all the other people who’ve made the 3060 / ti so popular. Still find it funny how AMD fans are always try to prove something. Just pick what works for you.
@@BikingChapSo you prefer GPUs in terms of popularity?
@@mastertang4200 not at all, rather reliability. If AMD is your preferred vendor that's great, it just amuses me how folk buy them then feel the need to prove / justify their choice.
im happy with my 8gb rx 580 lol
Yeah that's even better for price to performance
I have upgraded but I still have my Rx570 😅 just gonna keep it for the apocalypse. It's survived this long, same with my og elite Xbox 360. It's just preloaded with banger games 😂
I'm looking to set up an eGPU via a Thunderbolt 4 connection for my laptop, which has an i7-1255u. Could you guide me on the necessary parts I need, the setup process, and also recommend a budget GPU compatible with my laptop?
Yes but u could consider the rtx 2080 8gb or 11gb and rtx 2070 that are still very good price to performance (used) i foud an rtx 2080 ti 11gb for 330 euros
I went with the RTX 3060 12GB because it was selling for $289.99 on Amazon and I had a $40 gift card. Only paid $250 in total for it
i found an rx 6650 for 230 and it outperforms the 3060 (nearly 3060ti level)
@@ayanrahman9371 yeah no not near the 3060 ti maybe in rasterization but anything raytracing Nvidia crushes AMD
@@ayanrahman9371 Nice, was it new? Mine came brand new and it was so sick getting to unbox it.
@@anarchy6417no ones gonna rt with those cards
@@anarchy6417no one is using RT with either and actually it does trade blows with the 3060ti. The 6700xt especially at 1440p is almost double the fps as well.
At this point this guy has polluted my shorts so much I’m just gonna refer to him as John Radeon
LOLL
3060’s are good if you find them used but brand new you can find a 6750 xt for that price and you can keep the 12gb of vram
You can get a 3060 12gb for 300
I don't understand why nobody mentions the 1080ti 😐
I find that people are selling them for way to much nowadays
The 3060 has Ray racing cores, and amazing features like DLSS.
It also has a built in video encoder which makes it so so much better for streaming and content creation than an AMD GPU.
Lmao the 6600xt and 6650xt also both have Raytracing cores(32) and FSR or Super Resolution.
Relive is better than Nvidia's capture software. By far.
@@tacticalmattress having them doesn't equal them being good
im good
As a south african laptops dont come with an rx 6650 xt
*12GB has left the chat*
*ray tracing has left the chat*
at the end of the day i still go with nvidia
Same, i don't have the trust for amd that i have for nvidia, plus the others benefits that we don't talk about for nvidia.
It all depends on what you want to use it for. If you want to run AI apps like Stable Diffusion, you needs CUDA support which is only provided with an NVIDIA card.
Cant go amd maybe with the cpu but im a nvidia guy had the 560 ti,740 sc and now im gonna find a 3060-3080 on sale somewhere.
I actually just got a used 3070 ti for $200 and I think that’s quite a bit better value
I agree 3070 ti for $200 is a great value.
Problems with used parts and it's Not your gpu ingeneral is how long they will last before performance starts decreasing in the future and if it has some damages outside which will affect aesthetics of the pc.
Some people would buy good lookin parts over performance. if they we're trying to flex to there freinds or something etc. Lol
I switched from 6600xt used ($200) to 3060 12GB also used ($240) because of VRAM and most importantly CUDA. AMD still lacks in that department.
Nice effort but i think its pretty much pointless. Ive had this suspicion for a long time but rtx 3000 and rdna2 confirmed to me that for some reason people want nvidia to become a monopoly. Rdna2 was beating Ampere in basically all reviews not just in regards to price but performance as well unless you really needed Ray tracing or 4k. Still 90% of sales were nvidia. I dont know why. Im really at a loss on this one
It's the power of marketing. People are a lot easier to manipulate than they believe they are.
I grabbed a brand new PowerColor Fighter RX 6650 XT for $210 back in early December. The same card is still only $230 on Amazon at the moment. I could not be more impressed with the performance of this card, especially for how little I paid for it.
As someone thats owned AMD and Nvidia I can tell u right now that AMD 100% has more driver issues at least the newer ones. The older ones as they recieve driver updates do become more and more stable. I still think AMD gpus are worth buying but AMD driver timeout errors are a very real thing.
Yes, AMD drivers do suck.
not really
I have a 7900 xt and haven’t run into a single driver issue since buying my pc over 5 months ago. Your personal experience might be different but from my experience your just as likely to have driver issues from nvidia as you are from amd.
Ive had my 6800xt for 8 months. Only game ive experienced a driver issue is star wars battlefront 2. Other than that, no issues at all. I love my 6800xt.
That was a myth 8 years ago……
that was only a problem a like half a decade ago, it has just as many driver issues as nvidia.
just bought an rx6650xt earlier today for £240 to start off my new pc build
wish i had discovered Zach before i got my Rtx 3060. Im really happy with it bc i got the 12gb model for 300
Before 100 views gang
👇
But the nvidia reflex feature
Relive
Here in the indian market, the 3060 costs around $340 and the 6650 xt costs $480. The price disparity here is extremely large
I have a rx 5700 in my PC and yes it has some driver issues even after 4 years of owning it. But those issues rarely happen. It doesn't ruin my games constantly and completely. In some games driver timeouts happen rarely or never. In some games more often. I play mostly pirated games but also from steam and epic too. So the problem could be more from the pirated games then from the Amd driver.
I live in a country where electronics pricing is messy because almost everything is imported with varied taxes, making AMD & Nvidia usually evenly priced.
I go with AMD because those cards have more reliabitly and lifespan. Two Nvidia cards died on me, three if you count the "I'm seeing signs".
The xfx line of the 6000 series is just nice. Got a 6800 and it stays silent. Cooling is just good
People didn't listen since it's not the third most popular, but now the most popular card on Steam hardware survey.
bought my 3060 on november 2022 for 450€, about two months later it was 80-100€ cheaper and now its only 300€ :) still paying for it and i already returned it for warranty repairing cuz fan bearings
you guys are lucky where i live the 6650xt starts at €
350 and are mostly €
400 with asrock models at €583
its down to features, rn nvidia have tensor core and stronger RT core if youre tend to AI stuff and ray tracing, but for gaming without RT and relative better RAM capacity / dollar radeon is better
My friend who has a 10700k paired with an Arc A770: I am different
Nvidia video encoder?
Idk
I knew that card was only 169 dollars
Would you recommend this gpu for streaming as well?
Is that good for 3D modeling blender ?
I hate when people try to loop their videos to get more retention
good arguement but nvidia has more software and ai technologies which are incomparable to amd's. If you want to stay on team green, then this is the card
These looped endings are actually getting so annoying because yes it connects to the start but if you just end it there it makes no sense, the only time it’s actually good is when the ending makes sense AND loops with the start
Got a 3060 back during the scalping days for like $700. I was impatient and made a rash purchase. Don't regret it one bit though, cause I've had a great time with it since.
In 2024, I'd just get an AMD card tbh
i'd get AMD card if they weren't like 100 euro more expensive than Nvidia cards in my country. also i trust Nvidia more
Bro is the brand ambassador
Sent two amd cards back a few days ago. Two different pc one with windows 10, one new build will widows 11. Both crashed constantly. Put a 1660 super in no problems, put my rx 580 in no issues. 7000 series card driver issue are real.
My prebuilt has a 3060 I’m looking to upgrade because it’s kind of mid, so what do you recommend?
mine will be in an all in one gaming computer, all i care about is 120 fps in fortnite and a clean setup.
Fuuuck. I just purchased the ZOTAC RTX 3060 Twin Edge 12gb DDR6 for $297 like 5 hours ago
AMD driver issues is always an issue. AMD has always had issues and I my latest upgrade was AMD and while I feel like I got more value for money the issues that I deal with sporadically remind me of this ever prevailing issue
I'm about to build a system with a ryzen 7 3700x and a rtx 2070 super in it I know the system doesn't have much of a upgrade path but I bought the cpu and gpu almost 2 years ago but stuff came up and I'm finally going to build it from what Ives seen it's not to bad performance wise today but this will be the fist computer I build for myself I've only ever tinkered with my friends computers if they let me but seeing how I've only had good things said about my work I hope my personal build turns out just as good
For those who want to do AI related stuff (like just using models) you should consider 3060 12gb bcs for the price and tight budget, It will do a really good job handling those things. I don't own one personally but see many such heavy users use them for this purpose
intel arc 750 is 200 usd. I have no complaints. Performs like 3060 ti
It's actually about the same as the 3060 12gb according to techpowerup but still good enough and cheaper.
The problem is that all the games are built and tested with the Nvidia cards
Lol Yeah, But he also tested it with amd cards and has showed it has good fps in this video and other videos about Rx cards.
@@TockTR I'm meaning future games and updates.
Not necessarily true. The newest playstation and xbox both use AMD graphics, so games that were ported from console to PC were tested with AMD first.
Why not get the Rx 7600x for the same price ? And it's newer
that statistic on steam are mostly come from asia in asia it tough to find amd card (the import is expensive unlike in America or Canada u can just walk in micro center and see rx 6600xt on shelf ) that’s why nvidia dominate the chart.
thats a nice hand warmer
The problem is in different countries stuff is priced different
Here in my country an rtx 4060 (the worst price to performance gpu)
Is actually one of the best in my place because of the price range it is.
Idk if this happened because of the negative response
And it has frame gen (which is obviously not something that i should say but its still a nice addon)
And its still a nice upgrade from gtx 1650
I've got the 6600xt and I'm happy with it
Depends, for most gamers, you probably wont use the RT cores, but if you use DLSS, or blender, get the 3060, it has the same performance as the 2070S and has better DLSS than it. The 6650XT will work now, but might not in 3-4 years time
I gave AMD 3 chances on video cards, and sadly the driver issues ruined team red for me at least for gpus, I still rock my ryzen cpus but gonna be nvidia all the way for me from now on
And thats only one of the things that many "Tech" youtubers ignore when blanket recommending GPUs
@@Alpine_flo92002This dude literally builds hundreds of PCs for his business. If he doesn’t find them an issue, I don’t think it’s an issue for the vast majority of cases. Same with most other tech CZcamsrs.
@@Polymath2B If a sponsored tech youtuber doesnt find issues then either its because he is sponsored or has a bias like basically every human being. I for one build computers for companies and for my own sanity only use Nvidia Cards for mid-higher end customers and intel CPUs for high uptime requirements. AMD or Intel CPUs if certain aspects are needed like Intel Accelerators or High AMD core count and density and cache. AMD cards I usually reserve for Applications requiring many displays at a low price like for Mcdonalds or video walls. Most of my private customers are either people who need office PCs or Gaming PCs. Office PCs for higher end users I switched to AMD APUs for lower end "Dad" like office PCs I go with Intel because of reliability and stability. Gaming PCs I take what the user demands as most "Gamer" customers come in saying "I have XYZ Budget and want AMD/Intel CPU and want a AMD/NVIDIA GPU". Then I try to recommend based on what fits and then have to readjust because its rare that someone who wants AMD will accept Nvidia or someone who wants Nvidia to accept AMD and god forbid I recommend Intel to anyone but for content creation servers