1 of 3 - Explanation of Victron Energy Lynx Distributor & Power In
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
- This is the first in a series of three videos explaining the Victron Energy Lynx range of products. Johannes talks about the Distributor and the Power In in this episode, how they differ and what are the benefits of using them over standard busbars.
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00:00 Introduction
00:29 Victron Energy Lynx Power In
01:46 Victron Energy Lynx Distributor - Věda a technologie
This kit is excellent and i use it on my boat. If you don't need the extra functionality of the Lynx Distributor then you can buy the correct size bolts/washers etc for the Lynx Power-in which allows it to also be used with fuses etc... much cheaper than the Distributor.
I won't consider anything else than Victron Energy in my next home for a Solar Power System, as I can see everything is purpose built & very well designed for Home, Boat, Van, Car etc well Done Victron Energy for a quality products, (Retired Aerospace - Defence Electronics Hardware Qualification Verification Test Engineer) I know Quality when I see it 👍👏
Philip
Thank you!
Victron is the best . Im only missing a little thing in general setup . Another meter role for examp wind or hydro generation .
I really love victron products. Pray to have some to use in the future...
Very nice piece of kit , makes job way faster especially with many batteries 🪫 or many chargers on the system . Lynx power in can be easly transformed to mega fuse holder . It takes 4 bolts n nuts to make it hold 4 mega fuses . Very neat job
So you’re telling me you can modify the IN
to become a Distributor??? 😮😮😮
I really like the Lynx series of devices and I use them in my PowerWall setup. The only feature Victron need to fix, is that the Lynx Shunt currently does not display any DC power in the Consumption summary near the graph (VRM). So, AC power is perfectly shown and added to the Consumption tile, but the Lynx Shunt totally ignores any DC power.
However, that works perfectly fine with the Smart Shunt and the BVM. Both show AC and DC power combined in the Consumption tile. So, I assume this is just a software update away, hopefully coming soon!?
(I have read the discussion on the community forum about this feature and many are waiting to actually start using this 'expensive fuse holder', as some refer to it.)
haha fuse holder? it calculates the SOC , that's what its basically for
@@johannesboonstra6917 The software is not acceptable on the Lynx shunt . It will not do what the smart shunt will . This has been widely discussed but not fixed . Can you look again at the post above please .
@@onthelake9554 you lost me, what is the question ?? you taking about how its displayed on the VRM dashboard?
I got the Lynx Distributor because I needed a rock solid fused busbar. I do love it for that! Am slightly disappointed it's dumb w/o the BMS (which is expensive).
Understand, but to make each distributer able to communicate would have a huge impact on price
I'm planning on applying liquid metal from CPU side of things. To ensure surface contacts over my lynx distribution system & for all fuses et cetra.
That's fancy Patrick!
Since we will be charging the 48V /51.2) V battery with solar panels (4 x 480W - Vmp = 37.10, lmp = 12.95A), we would like to have exact information on which Victron MPPT controller is suitable so that the battery will be charged properly (Operatin value charge 43 -58V). Does the Victron 150/45 match the charging voltage? Can the such battery be charged from 200V with a charger, and if so, with what kind?
Hola johannes eres unas de las pocas caras visibles que puede ver en la red ,espero que ka vida te trate bien ,he visto muchos videos tuyos,pero se que detrás de la marca que representas hay un gran equipo ,quiero agradecer todo buestro trabajo ,ya la marca por dedicar tanto trabajo y esfuerzo para producir equipos tan buenos 👍
Thank you !
Can we ever expect a LYNX distributor that uses class T fuses? We sure could use it here in the states for LiFePO4 batteries. There are mods that have been done so it can be done-at least to the power-in without fuse monitoring.
A couple of other “wants”: a module which includes a mechanical disconnect switch; a low power connection (12-16 #10, 1/4” posts with ATO and maxi fuses); a 1000a LYNX BMS; 90 degree modules (left and right)
I love the concept-please expand it!
YES. that's coming (pretty soon) it will have room for 3 fuses
@@johannesboonstra6917 awesome. Too late for me (4 smart LFP’s to class T to power in to Lynx BMS to distributor) , but if it is shorter, I might keep it in mind for adding more batts😎
It is a really nice system. I considered it as one of the options. Also the tigerexped ufo was an option. But I choose a DIY solution with a 35 euro Victron 250A 6x mega fuse box. And I put my phoenix 2000va compact on a separate busbar.
I think the lynx system is great but also it becomes pretty expensive if you need more then 4 mega fuses. Also for alot of things a 1000A busbar is not needed. So I think there is a place for a cheaper module with a smaller rated busbar and mega fuses. So for most DC-DC, Solar etc you need 40 to 80A fuses.
Or maybe develop a budget lynx line for small to medium systems.
Victron is my main choice and I love building with Victron components. Yesterday I updated the firmware on my phoenix 2000va compact (1908 small cpu) and I programmed the relay function for extra cooling. And I also got the remote switch panel working 💪😁
We are working on idea's ;-)
@@johannesboonstra6917 Sounds great! I can test new products if needed in my Unimog! :) Im located in weesp next to the mastervolt warehouse :D
Does the lynx power in only work with lead acid batteries ?. Or also lithium
Hallo habe auch alles von Victron bin sehr zufrieden alles mit Speicher 😊👍 schau mal mit vorbei 👌👍
Please understand... I LOVE my Victron setup.. It's prettty large for an RV... Functions PERFECTLY, couldn't be happier.... I will be doing my home, .. I'm in US/California... Lack of UL Listing/certification is a problem.... Wish list.... NoArc Breakers instead of fuses, .. much more modular.... High Voltage options... I understand these are all wishful thinking... but... these are all the direction the industry is moving...... As I see it....
This is a great family of products.
Wish there was also a simple version for 500A and less (less features).
Personally I don't like to see the direct connection on the side of a Lynx Distributor with the battery, because the metal things are often exposed. Sometimes only during installation, sometimes also during operation.
Would be nice if there was an extra Lynx product that would cover the exposed parts.
Or maybe it's better that people should install batteries from the right, instead coupling from the left of the Lynx Distributor?
They do come with covers over the side connections.
@@VictronEnergyBV Yes, but those are removed when people install the battery cables.
In Australia and New Zealand we have to fuse the positive AND the negative legs. From what I can see on the Distributor, it only has a fuse on the positive leg correct? Do you have some solution or idea how to easily get the negative leg fused as well? Thanks
That's indeed not possible with these products , we dont have any product able to do this unless you place an extra external fuse holder
I have two Lynx Distributor installed and between them the Lynx Shunt, but I can not see the status of the fuses in VRM. Is it necessary to have the Victron BMS as well?
I ask because Johannes said BMS or Shunt.
For now its only possible to read the fuse state with the Lynx Smart BMS
Hello, this is not like my installation. i have 2 distrubutors and the lynx shunt but can't configure or view the fuses here. 3:06
Correct, its not able to see the fuse state with the Lynx Shunt, only with the Smart Lynx BMS at this point
I have no idea how to wire power supply...it says the RJ10 need to go to a VE CAN...but my leds are still off. the manual does not explain more. there a re videos here explaing the power source for the distibutor 1000. very strange! Please explain this. thx
Hello, A lynx distributor can forward its state when connected to a device like a Lynx Smart BMS, if you dont have such a device the rj10 cabling isn't needed
Hello, thank you for this Video.
What can i do to monitor the Fuses in a Distributor first generation?
I have three Distributor.
Only the newest i can see on the VRM.
If you have a Lynx BMS these distributors can be monitored as well.
@@johannesboonstra6917
Hello, i have a Lynx BMS of course.
But only the newest Serial Number is show in the VRM.
All are connected to each other.
@@robertstuckle6198 you did change the dip sw addresses on all distributers?
@@johannesboonstra6917 Hello, yes.
All dip switches are different.
2:12 The Lynx distributor data doesn't seem to be sent to the Lynx shunt as stated in the video. The individual fuse status doesn't show up in the Victron Connect app. From what I've read, this is only available when using a Lynx BMS. Is this true? Are there any plans to make the data available for the Shunt?
the data goes to the Lynx Smart BMS , and in future models of the Lynx start shunt
@@johannesboonstra6917 thank you for confirming what I’ve noticed. So will you have to buy a new hardware version of the Lynx shunt in the future or will there be a software update at some point to make that data available to existing Lynx shunts?
should you ground the busbar as well in a ESS ON grid system ? would a 6 mm grounding cable be enough to be connected to the House Ground system ? (PE)
Only if the inverter has the same diameter cable on PE, normally you dont
@@johannesboonstra6917 thank you, so best to PE the Inverter AND battery negative / and casing if metal and not the busbar if I am correct ?
@@patrickmaartense7772 correct
the documentation for the Lynx Power In DOES NOT explain how many Lynx Power Ins can be joined together for integrating 5 or more batteries. PLEASE FIX. "1000A" max does not adequately explain if it's safe to connect two Lynx Power Ins, or if 6 batteries should be separated evenly across 2 Lynx Power Ins, or if 1 can hold 4 and 1 can hold 2, etc. ALSO -- if i have three or more Lynx Power Ins, where two are used for batteries, and two are used for MTTP ins, where do they all need to go? All to the left?
? you can connect many Lynx power ins together, as long as the total current doesnt exceed 100A, for 5 batteries only two are needed as there are 4 inlets. When using MPPT's , then a Lynx Distributer with fuses would be more likely. IF there is a Lynx shunt used, the batteries need to come on the battery side and the charge source/loads need to be on the installation side.
Please make more Lynx products like a BMS for people who don't use Victron batteries. I plan on using Victron products in my classic 1967 GM city transit bus that I am converting but i am waiting for you to redo the lynx shunt , it needs Bluetooth and the problem of not reading the dc correctly needs to be fixed. Also what about making a Lynx main shut off switch with a fuse
We need an allin one 3phase inverter with gen port and digital io for smart loads like the deye sun 12k
For austria.
Working on it, there will be a high DC voltage HF rang in this.
Unrelated but are there plans to be able to assign different battery types in the multi channel IP chargers? Ie IP22 and Phenix IP 43 chargers, bank 1 lead acid, bank 2 agm, bank 3 lithium?
No, as the charger is essentially a single charger with a splitter on its output , there is no option to pay output voltages
@@johannesboonstra6917 what about being able to name the different channels in the Phenix IP 43. Each channel can be monitored on the app, ie channel one house, channel 2 start, channel 3 thruster? It would make knowing what channel is what bank much easier.
@@andrewhoughton2196 could be an idea but at the moment not possible.
Is there a possibility to combine lead acid “AGM “ bms & lithium bms batteries to work together ?
It's advised not to mix battery chemistry - you will regret it.
Can you change the name of the power into just DC Power as I used it as a positive busbar and another as a negative busbar.
Hmm...i am afraid that not happening
Can i add a BMV-712 for DC out monitoring into this system? (two Lynx Power in, Lynx Shunt, two Lynx Distributors in my system)
I actually "upgraded" from the BMV-712 to a Lynx system and syddenly find out that it cannot do DC measuring....
You can use the BMV as a DC meter. See section 4.7 of the manual: www.victronenergy.com/media/pg/BMV-712_Smart/en/configuration.html#UUID-335472b9-93b2-fd2e-6cff-0af0b89f77c4
@@VictronEnergyBV
Thank you for your answer!
@@VictronEnergyBV May i also ask how this will look in VRM ? Will it calculate AC+DC use?
could this be used in car audio installs?
yes/no, its designed up to 1000A so thats over 12kW , most likely a bit over the top for a car system.
Problem is, that if I want connect 6 x 160 AMPS fused battery / PN00 160 A fuses / I have to do busbars myself.
Or get two Distributors? Lots of installers have many all connected up.
Only downside is you can't access negative until positive is removed and negative needs to be removed first
correct , that's the downside of haveing such a compact unit, on the other hand, how often would this occur normally?
@johannesboonstra6917 every time you were to service or add/remove components from system. Very easy to fix, just swap negative and positive bars
I'd like to see a linkable sectional LED lighting system to attach to below or around the lynx system, for the bling!! Running in all modes, 12v 24v or 48v for all attached battery banks.
We like bling too - I shall raise this as a request :-)
@@VictronEnergyBV l'll mention a more pressing issue; that the Cerbo-GX & globallink 520 should be usable together. One for local checking & other for potentially hidden tracking.
@@patricklyons7683 Ah, yes that would be nice but due to the limited data stream of the global link not possible I am afraid
We need UL listed inverters for the USA please . Currently only one small one . Anyone working on this ?
Yes we are , there is quite some list already but still a long way to go
Are these connection copper?
they are not copper.
its tinned Copper
Why would you connect multiple strings of (lead acid) batteries in parallel without a fuse for every string? It is an easy failsafe if one string has a failure and one reason to have multiple strings: if one fails you still have the others, with reduced capacity to be said.
Therefore the Lynx Distributor would be the product to choose for connecting multiple strings of batteries, isn't it?
You may already have the fuses and fuse holders and just want the option of a protected bus-bar 👌
Thanks - perhaps some day I can afford to spend on goodies.
I wish the Lynx< could hold five fuses and why do you put your ground lug in the middle
😮when it could go on either end. 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤷♂️
Hello, Its not just that, there then also needs to be more room for the PCB ect.
Just to be clear, the lynx modules are parallel connected, not series connected.
? they are bolted at each other to extend the number of terminals, there is no parallel /series ...
@@johannesboonstra6917 just in reference to the connection method. You state connected in “series” on the video, which generally means positive to negative in order to multiply the voltage. This product doesn’t do that, but does replicate how one would normally parallel connect equipment. Just a terminology thing.
What is a Lynx Distrobitor? 🤣
Wish I could understand half of the words he was saying. Very thick accent.
how many LYNX POWER IN do we need to connect 20 battery LiFePO4 Battery 25,6V/200Ah Smart-a?
Lithiums need to be fused per string, so then the distributer is the best option here , there are 4 fuse holders there so that's the max number of strings per distributer
@@johannesboonstra6917 Thank you for information. As in Victron website written LYNX POWER IN and Lynx Distributor are different devices. LYNX POWER IN connects to batteries. Lynx Distributor connects to DC load, MPPT Charger and Inverter.
I want to connect 20 batteries to this system through LYNX POWER IN. Therewhy i want to know how many LYNX POWER IN do i need for 20 Battery.
@@tnwm2947 I am sorry but that's not correct , the Lynx power is can be used for lead batteries which dont normally are fused per string. For lithium batteries the lynx distributer is needed