Hello. In the case of 8 lithium batteries 100 amps each, total 800 amps, what would be the recommended BMS? 500 or 1000? I would also need 2x Distributors for the batteries, right? Is it possible to use the M8 distributors for this bateries with the BMS 1000 (M10)? thanks !!
@johannesboonstra6917 With the Lynx BMS it's still useful to connect a ve.bus smart dongle to the Multiplus to allow for voltage drop compensation? Or maybe the Cerbo will send it the voltage measured by the BMS, acting like the dongle, somehow?
Thanks for continuing to create great videos. I have a full Victron set up with the Lynx Smart BMS. Unfortunately last year while I was away the batteries couldn't charge from solar due to the temperature being under 4C - the BMS kept drawing power over the course of a month until my 27V battery got to 19V - I had expected it to protect itself but unfortunately it left me with a battery that's out of warranty due to the voltage having been so low (I believe). The switch turned off so I guess the final power was used by the Cerbo GX and buzzer. Do you know what could have caused that? It doesn't seem to have impacted the battery capacity but I was frustrated that I'd paid a lot to try and protect the battery and it didn't.
When you have not change the low cell voltage level the battery is still in warranty. Please have the system up to date as specially on the idle power the firmware was adapted.
@@jamesmason7124 but please understand that we limit this charge at low temp because we learned this causes a dramatic reduction of lifespan This is not is an effect with only our cell , also with yours ! You will not see the effect after a few short tests , but overtime it will be an issue So I would flip your statement around and advise you to product your clients investment and do the same
It seems like what the Lynx system is missing is a Lynx Battery Protect Module/Switch for people not using Victron batteries. I would have to put a Battery Protect module in between the Lynx Shunt ant the Lynx Distributor which makes the nice Lynx stacking connector system useless.
This is really well designet. But I would really like if the alarms from Lynx would be displayed at the Cerbo homepage. Stuff like low SOC or low temp batteries should be displayed as an alarm on the home screen. Not only in the setup screen. Is is very difficult to figure out what is happening if the Lynz switches off without a warning on the Cerbo first.
@@johannesboonstra6917 Not on the "home screen" the one showing ac input - inverter - ac loads - battery - dc power. I tried it several times. No alarm for low soc from lynx. and no alarm from lynx about low temp batt. It will show on the settings page yes. But not the homescreen.
I Wish they made this with only the contactor (and shunt). As an inbetween version of the Lynx Shunt and this Lynx BMS. My batteries have their own built in BMS and I don't need the 500A BMS in this unit. However I'd still like to remotely cut-off my batteries for when I'm not home and get a fault notification via my VRM app or email.
Is there anyone I can speak with about my current setup and changes I was thinking of making? Tried to call but was told Victron won't help consumers, just vendors, is this true? Thank you.
CAD 1,310 for a Victron Energy Lynx Smart BMS is just too much for average folks. Can victron make something for personal use cases like campers who runs a much smaller battery banks. I am happy if my bms can handle 100A for a 12V system. Please make a budget version within $300.
@@johannesboonstra6917 Some of the features must work with other batteries. Shunt, contractor, remote ports. without Smart Lithium batteries is it completely not operational?
@@johannesboonstra6917 we need a lynx BMS for diy batteries, because not everyone wants to or can afford Victron batteries, come on now, 2,500 USD for 12 volt 300 ah battery, Lol , I can make a 1000 ah battery bank for that price. Maybe I should make a BMS that fits the Lynx system. We the people need products that work with different brands of products.
@@jamesmason7124 The point that I was trying to make is that we also can make cheaper products as you can, but then safety becomes an issue. The added electronics is there for a reason. Just as a fuse there is no added value when everything works as it should but you cannot go without when something does happen. If you decide to leave safety what it is it may be a more expensive route after all ( and trust me, I have seen many DIY projects start with the believe all can be made much cheaper but still it fails over time ....)
@@johannesboonstra6917 what safety issues, I have a background in electrical engineering and I say it can be done, you can have quality, safety, and a low price. What makes Victron batteries safer than DIY batteries made from Headway 38120 HP lithium iron fosphate cells and a Rec BMS
@@jamesmason7124 of course , perhaps you can , but many can’t. And I am afraid we can not do this just for you 🙈. I guess I don’t have to explain to you if the combination battery cell measurement, adequate balancing and controlling the system with this isn’t extreme reliable, there will be a time when the battery becomes unsafe. So we design both battery measuring/ balancing and system controlling electronics as a safe combination
I think if Johannes was doing a video on vegetables I'd watch it!
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The best feature is the extra sticker 🥳
Thank you for the information
Just ordered a Multiplus II. Will be upgrading to lithium so I’m going to swap out the Lynx Shunt for the Lynx BMS.
Yes, that's best , but a VE Bus BMS II is also an option
very informative thanks
Good info :) Thank you . Im about to ad lynx shunt to my Ststem
Hello. In the case of 8 lithium batteries 100 amps each, total 800 amps, what would be the recommended BMS? 500 or 1000? I would also need 2x Distributors for the batteries, right?
Is it possible to use the M8 distributors for this bateries with the BMS 1000 (M10)? thanks !!
The size BMS is deepening on charge/discharge current, not capacity. Yes, 2 x Distributor would be best
Great video
@johannesboonstra6917 With the Lynx BMS it's still useful to connect a ve.bus smart dongle to the Multiplus to allow for voltage drop compensation? Or maybe the Cerbo will send it the voltage measured by the BMS, acting like the dongle, somehow?
the Smart BMS works on DVCC so controls all charge from there, there is not a dongle or such needed.
Thanks for continuing to create great videos. I have a full Victron set up with the Lynx Smart BMS. Unfortunately last year while I was away the batteries couldn't charge from solar due to the temperature being under 4C - the BMS kept drawing power over the course of a month until my 27V battery got to 19V - I had expected it to protect itself but unfortunately it left me with a battery that's out of warranty due to the voltage having been so low (I believe). The switch turned off so I guess the final power was used by the Cerbo GX and buzzer. Do you know what could have caused that? It doesn't seem to have impacted the battery capacity but I was frustrated that I'd paid a lot to try and protect the battery and it didn't.
When you have not change the low cell voltage level the battery is still in warranty. Please have the system up to date as specially on the idle power the firmware was adapted.
See this is what I am talking about and why I am going to design my own BMS that fits and matches the Lynx system
@@jamesmason7124 but please understand that we limit this charge at low temp because we learned this causes a dramatic reduction of lifespan
This is not is an effect with only our cell , also with yours !
You will not see the effect after a few short tests , but overtime it will be an issue
So I would flip your statement around and advise you to product your clients investment and do the same
Ik zal graag Johannes een keer tegen komen om van know-how te wisselen.
Eerst volgende beurs waar ik ben is de intersolar in München!
It seems like what the Lynx system is missing is a Lynx Battery Protect Module/Switch for people not using Victron batteries. I would have to put a Battery Protect module in between the Lynx Shunt ant the Lynx Distributor which makes the nice Lynx stacking connector system useless.
yes that would be nice !
This is really well designet. But I would really like if the alarms from Lynx would be displayed at the Cerbo homepage. Stuff like low SOC or low temp batteries should be displayed as an alarm on the home screen. Not only in the setup screen. Is is very difficult to figure out what is happening if the Lynz switches off without a warning on the Cerbo first.
The BMS alarm do show up on the Cerbo , and if having contact with the VRM also there with even a mail push notification
@@johannesboonstra6917 Not on the "home screen" the one showing ac input - inverter - ac loads - battery - dc power. I tried it several times. No alarm for low soc from lynx. and no alarm from lynx about low temp batt. It will show on the settings page yes. But not the homescreen.
can u connect this bms to a po4 battery ?
watching all the way from Africa, ESS works better here😇
I Wish they made this with only the contactor (and shunt). As an inbetween version of the Lynx Shunt and this Lynx BMS. My batteries have their own built in BMS and I don't need the 500A BMS in this unit. However I'd still like to remotely cut-off my batteries for when I'm not home and get a fault notification via my VRM app or email.
Is there anyone I can speak with about my current setup and changes I was thinking of making? Tried to call but was told Victron won't help consumers, just vendors, is this true? Thank you.
Hi there, you need to get in contact with a local installer or distributor.
Does this work with any battery from any company? if not, is there a list of batteries it works with?
what is this for what is that junction box to the right of his head at 0:17? looks like a lynx "power in" with only one pair of connectors
It’s in one of our research and develop buildings. Not all the items designed come to market.
Thanks I hope this “endbox” comes onto the market soon@@VictronEnergyBV
CAD 1,310 for a Victron Energy Lynx Smart BMS is just too much for average folks. Can victron make something for personal use cases like campers who runs a much smaller battery banks. I am happy if my bms can handle 100A for a 12V system. Please make a budget version within $300.
There are a variety of BMS’s in a range of prices. You can check them out here: www.victronenergy.com/battery-management-systems
Can this work with non Victron batteries?
No, I am afraid this BMS is for Smart Lithium batteries of Victron Energy only.
The other lynx shunt can & the manual lists a vast number of suppliers supported.
@@johannesboonstra6917 Some of the features must work with other batteries. Shunt, contractor, remote ports. without Smart Lithium batteries is it completely not operational?
@@SVThatway correct , then it’s not working
It's a pity this BMS is only for Victron batteries. Other Victron products are nicely hardware-agnostic.
As there is a safety concern when mixing / matching BMS / battery we have chosen to make them only compatible with our own models
@@johannesboonstra6917 we need a lynx BMS for diy batteries, because not everyone wants to or can afford Victron batteries, come on now, 2,500 USD for 12 volt 300 ah battery, Lol , I can make a 1000 ah battery bank for that price. Maybe I should make a BMS that fits the Lynx system. We the people need products that work with different brands of products.
@@jamesmason7124 The point that I was trying to make is that we also can make cheaper products as you can, but then safety becomes an issue. The added electronics is there for a reason. Just as a fuse there is no added value when everything works as it should but you cannot go without when something does happen. If you decide to leave safety what it is it may be a more expensive route after all ( and trust me, I have seen many DIY projects start with the believe all can be made much cheaper but still it fails over time ....)
@@johannesboonstra6917 what safety issues, I have a background in electrical engineering and I say it can be done, you can have quality, safety, and a low price. What makes Victron batteries safer than DIY batteries made from Headway 38120 HP lithium iron fosphate cells and a Rec BMS
@@jamesmason7124 of course , perhaps you can , but many can’t. And I am afraid we can not do this just for you 🙈. I guess I don’t have to explain to you if the combination battery cell measurement, adequate balancing and controlling the system with this isn’t extreme reliable, there will be a time when the battery becomes unsafe. So we design both battery measuring/ balancing and system controlling electronics as a safe combination