Quads in Ladies Skating: 2019/20 Season Update

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  • čas přidán 15. 06. 2020
  • The 2019/2020 season saw an explosion of quads (four-revolution jumps) in ladies' skating. More ladies landed quads in junior and senior-level competitions than ever before.
    Skaters w/ ratified quads in international competition & season first landed:
    - Miki Ando (JPN) - 2002/03 (Jr)
    - Alexandra Trusova (RUS) - 2016/17 (Jr)
    - Elizabet Tursynbaeva (KAZ) - 2018/19 (Sr)
    - Alysa Liu (USA) - 2019/20 (Jr)
    - Kamila Valieva (RUS) - 2019/20 (Jr)
    - Anna Shcherbakova (RUS) - 2019/20 (Sr)
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    BLACKPINK- Don't Know What To Do (instrumental)
    • BLACKPINK - Don't Know...
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Komentáře • 315

  • @Yuzutea
    @Yuzutea  Před 3 lety +114

    Do you think quads / triple axels in ladies skating are here to stay, or do you think it's a trend that will die down quickly?

    • @sso_kartoffel6268
      @sso_kartoffel6268 Před 3 lety +36

      i guess the russians will practice it a lot maybe japan too but no other countrys :)

    • @Hannelitaa
      @Hannelitaa Před 3 lety +67

      I think it will depend on ISU :) If the jumps continue to be a huge source of points, more athletes will focus on them

    • @Sihaja
      @Sihaja Před 3 lety +44

      well figure skating is firstly sport and ability to make multirotated jumps is a way to show it and to evaluate sportsman's performance. Triples can be done by many, but if a person can do quads why should you stop him and say: "No, don't do quads, just do triples like thousands". Look how figure skating started with no more than doubles and where it is now

    • @twowickie
      @twowickie Před 3 lety +46

      i can't imagine quads becoming common in ladies - at least not for long. with these girls starting quads as 11-12 yo, we're just not going to have competitive ladies over the age of 16 at major championships. it's not sustainable, i could see ISU raising the age for sr and splitting jrs into two age groups - just for safety if nothing else.

    • @tommymorton4939
      @tommymorton4939 Před 3 lety +10

      When quintuples become routine jumps the quads will go down

  • @destinyannfoxx
    @destinyannfoxx Před 3 lety +269

    I sometimes see what these young Russian girls can do and get scared

    • @archimedespalimpsest1697
      @archimedespalimpsest1697 Před 3 lety +16

      they can stop a galloping horse and enter a burning house.

    • @micahnoraouzi2058
      @micahnoraouzi2058 Před 3 lety +3

      Ice skating is very important to us :>

    • @nikkispark6477
      @nikkispark6477 Před 3 lety +5

      coaches Eteri Tutberidze and Professor Mishin know how to teach how to jump a Quad!!!

    • @olgakurt1
      @olgakurt1 Před 3 lety +2

      @@archimedespalimpsest1697 exactly!!!

  • @euniceahn3906
    @euniceahn3906 Před 3 lety +114

    Honestly Kamila's quads are so beautiful i'm impressed. Sasha is also the QUEEN of quads. So stable and the height is amazing!

  • @QuadQueenTrusova
    @QuadQueenTrusova Před 3 lety +84

    Quad Queen continues to make history, fingers crossed on a loop in the next season.

    • @sophiezhang7258
      @sophiezhang7258 Před 3 lety +12

      hopefully she’ll be able to manage landing 3Axel

  • @agreatsad
    @agreatsad Před 3 lety +212

    Sasha's jumps are amazing, too bad last season didn't fare so well for her. Hope that she didn't lose the jumps in the future.

    • @zubrowska9017
      @zubrowska9017 Před 3 lety +4

      Only she doesn’t land with her back straight

    • @archimedespalimpsest1697
      @archimedespalimpsest1697 Před 3 lety +13

      @@zubrowska9017 Do you want her to overburden her joints?
      She jumps more quads than anyone on a daily basis.

    • @aidenussy
      @aidenussy Před 3 lety +4

      Somehow an under rotated jump that has a fall gets deducted less than a full jump with a fall
      ISU EXPLAIN

    • @williamt594
      @williamt594 Před 3 lety

      @ً alexandra

  • @marionpapka7652
    @marionpapka7652 Před 3 lety +139

    idk if its just me but i find quads so satisfying to watch especially the sound the landings make

    • @yohanes2034
      @yohanes2034 Před 3 lety +36

      It's scary though. It shows how much force that the skaters must take to land those quads. Landing quads take tolls on the body so hopefully those young ladies can survive puberty and live a healthy adult life after retirement.

    • @marionpapka7652
      @marionpapka7652 Před 3 lety

      Yohanes K tes i think that’s why they plan on retiring by the time they’re 20

    • @mahathimuthiah17
      @mahathimuthiah17 Před 3 lety +3

      Well most of the time they don’t do it correctly even tho it looks pleasing and I agree I love the sound but I wish they would do it right and hopefully this won’t affect them too much in the future sry my comment is all over the place

    • @simplyvanessa9419
      @simplyvanessa9419 Před 3 lety +5

      Mahathi Muthiah I agree! But Kamila and Trusovas quads are technically not that bad

    • @automnejoy5308
      @automnejoy5308 Před 3 lety

      I personally don't like the look of them. The skater has to spin so tight and fast. In fact I think it's very unsatisfying to watch.

  • @kadovax6567
    @kadovax6567 Před 3 lety +53

    From what I can see in this video: Sasha 4T is her best quad and it's surely why she chose this quad when she asked Yuzuru to jump a quad with him.
    Kamila needs to work on her landings to get them more steady.
    Liza has the best 4T in practice, so she should get it at competitions soon.
    Sasha and Rika should have 4Sal soon in competitions.
    None of the 4Lz is executed with the correct amount of PR, but I noticed during the past season that the girls are having less excessive PR than before. This means they are aware of it and they are working on it.
    I agree the judges may miss the excessive PR because of the speed of the rotations. There's no slo-mo for take offs and that's sad.

  • @legitlyspelunking
    @legitlyspelunking Před 3 lety +79

    6:19 Trusova's entry tho 😍👌

    • @kadovax6567
      @kadovax6567 Před 3 lety +8

      Yes, noticed it 💖 She now has to work on getting speed before the entry.

  • @SallyKimSK
    @SallyKimSK Před 3 lety +188

    Sasha's quad toe is amazing😯 i think she'll keep it even after puberty

    • @erkeasx6217
      @erkeasx6217 Před 3 lety +3

      Highly doubt it

    • @trusobot
      @trusobot Před 3 lety +9

      @@erkeasx6217 well she has

    • @francesatea5796
      @francesatea5796 Před 3 lety

      @@trusobot no, she hasnt. She hasnt gotten through puberty yet. So she will most likely, lose it unfortunately

    • @trusobot
      @trusobot Před 3 lety +4

      @@francesatea5796 ye she has not fully but almost and mostly

    • @francesatea5796
      @francesatea5796 Před 3 lety

      @@trusobot i disagree. Despite her age she doesn’t appear to be going through it yet. I believe shes starting to, but i doubt shes anywhere near half way through or completely through it

  • @alexiadesantis6204
    @alexiadesantis6204 Před 3 lety +38

    I'm in love with sasha's quad. She is surely the quad queen😍👑

  • @jlee4039
    @jlee4039 Před 3 lety +151

    Impressive! But I really hope all of these young athletes are being monitored by qualified doctors. Seems like a lot of stress to be putting on such young bodies... I mean, 11 years old???

    • @demaarhaashaalaahtmoneetaa5369
      @demaarhaashaalaahtmoneetaa5369 Před 3 lety +20

      Fair point. The forces from landing a jump are often five to eight times the athlete’s body weight. That’s a lot. I worry about an athlete’s joints and connective tissue long term.
      Perhaps advances in technology should be applied to routine testing (imaging, ultrasound, etc) of their joints... & any undesirable changes can be confronted early and proactively before real or irreversible problems develop.
      It’s a pet peeve of mine when athletes’ bodies are destroyed as a result of their sport - as I feel guilty and partly responsible for having partaken of the spectacle that caused the damage.
      Anything that prevents or mitigates that possibility is an improvement as far as I’m concerned. Even if the improvement is unseen to fans and judges as far as competition goes. I think the organizations that certify and regulate sport- the ISU, in this case- should ALWAYS be open to incorporating changes that will make their athletes safer.

    • @siwonchang3818
      @siwonchang3818 Před 3 lety +26

      I’ve watched a couple analysis videos so I’m in no way an expert, but it seems like several of the girls, especially the ones trained in Russia, aren’t training for good technique. Instead, they try to have a really low weight to get height and slightly pre-rotate or under-rotate their jumps, in a way that the judges won’t see (or at least pretend to not see, depending on who you ask). That’s why all the students of Eteri Tutberidze, the coach of many of the world champion Russian skaters, don’t skate past the age of 18. The way that they’re jumping puts so much pressure on their bodies that they literally can’t after 18, unless they switch coaches before their “expiration date”. I always thought that it was weird that Russia has so many champions in women’s skating and then they just disappear after like two years, and apparently that’s why.

    • @sarahmcdonough7713
      @sarahmcdonough7713 Před 2 lety +1

      totally valid concern, and i think we'll start to see the effects many quads per program have on athletes bodies in a couple of years, for women as well as men. some answer might be found in pairs ladies? i wonder if the forces in a throw jump would be relevant to singles doing regular quads.
      but with the way eteri "trains" and pumps and dumps her students, none of the girls in this video will be anywhere near competition by then 🥴 as the above comment mentions, eteri's girls have an expiry date in their late teens, which means theyre only expected to be on top of the world for a season or two. so i highly doubt their training is focused on longevity and good technique. those 11 year olds only need to burn bright for three or four years, not ten like most other federations might hope for. so one can imagine what physical shortcuts that timeline might require.. its not a coincidence that the only russian ladies from the last couple years with any amount of staying power do not train under eteri

    • @DzsM-rz7gu
      @DzsM-rz7gu Před 5 dny

      They are having shows in the russian tv after ice skating or other performances or they do one or two diploms after ice skating,so they are not forgotten.I don't know what is the differences between russian and other coaches.

  • @starcrushed
    @starcrushed Před 3 lety +159

    Alysa Liu and Anna Shcherbakova's jumps look the most horrible in slow-mo.

    • @abc_7717
      @abc_7717 Před 3 lety +47

      All the full blade and prerotation, it looks so ugly.

    • @erinmansell5715
      @erinmansell5715 Před 3 lety +4

      *Snort* what about Akatievas

    • @svetlankam8223
      @svetlankam8223 Před 3 lety +1

      @@abc_7717 your lying mug loks much uglier

  • @pulpfan8027
    @pulpfan8027 Před 3 lety +41

    So many of them do pre rotations. I just hope judges won’t favour quads with bad technique over nicely jumped triples

    • @Yurito12
      @Yurito12 Před rokem

      It's only the lutz and flips the 11 year old zhilina can jump a textbook quad lutz even today. She been jumping it for 3 years but never attempted it in comp sadly

  • @deunin
    @deunin Před 3 lety +6

    Im scared because these children are GOING INTO junior competitions with a quad under their belt

  • @svetlankam8223
    @svetlankam8223 Před 3 lety +7

    This is not a "trend"! It`s a milestone! It`s a f*cking revolution! :)
    Once gained, such things cannot "die down"!
    There isn`t a whimsical fashion in figure skating jumps. But there are great ideas, bald intentions, nerves made of steel and immensely hard work, the true degree of which very few of us can experience! And you should multiply it by 10 for women`s FS.
    - All these deserve great respect and admiration, but not silly questions and doubts in women`s abilities! Mildly speeking.

  • @yalmn7002
    @yalmn7002 Před 3 lety +45

    you forgot to mention Elizabet Tursynbayeva. She landed 4S at WC 2019.

    • @beckyy584
      @beckyy584 Před 3 lety +13

      This video is on quads jumped this season only. The video only showed clips of the skaters in past seasons as background info. Lizbeth was injured this season thus she wasn’t included.

  • @iris3706
    @iris3706 Před 3 lety +73

    Hello! I'm a rhythmic gymnast, but I recently started watching figure skating. Your videos really helped me understand jumps, but there's so much I don't know. I guess GOE is the judges' add-ons to the base value? And each of the judges give 1-5 and the add-on is the average of those scores? What's PCS? Could you do a video on how to judge figure skating? I think it would help a lot of people (and me).

    • @Yuzutea
      @Yuzutea  Před 3 lety +26

      Thanks for the suggestion, that's definitely a video I will work on!

    • @MsLeLaNayChannel
      @MsLeLaNayChannel Před 3 lety +1

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISU_Judging_System
      Actual GOE table: www.isu.org/figure-skating/rules/fsk-communications/24331-2323-sp-sov-changes-for-season-2020-21/file
      check it

    • @royami8627
      @royami8627 Před 3 lety +10

      GOE means grade of execution. The judges add or detract points to a jump depending on how well it is done. PCS means Performance component scores, which deals with things like skating skills, transitions, choreography and interpretation of a program

    • @flankerpraha
      @flankerpraha Před 3 lety

      @@MsLeLaNayChannel Communication 2323 (together with 2324) were revoked (which is fantastic :), those were stupid changes), so 2253 and 2254 are still in effect:
      www.isu.org/inside-isu/isu-communications/communications/21210-2253-s-p-sov-2019-20/file
      www.isu.org/inside-isu/isu-communications/communications/21211-2254-s-p-levels-of-difficulty-and-guidelines-for-marking-goe-2019-20/file

    • @flankerpraha
      @flankerpraha Před 3 lety +3

      @Iris zhang In figure skating there is TES (technical element score) and PCS (program component score). For start, forget PCS. In single skating elements are jumps, spins and step sequence (plus choreo sequence, but forget it now as well). Every element has its BV=base value (e.g. triple Lutz - 3Lz - has BV=5.9) which is corrected in program by the judges according to how well executed the element is. That's GOE (Grade of Execution). Basically there is a grade from -5 to +5, every point corresponds to 10 % of the BV of the element (there are rules, so called "bullets", what the elements have to comply to get this or that value from the judges and also list of errors and the deductions for them). So let's say that a skater jumps 3Lz relatively well and receives all +2 from the judges (20 % of the BV). Than the skater receives 5,9+(2x0.59)=7.08. That's just the basics, but I think you will get the rest soon, start with the documents linked in this thread.

  • @ry8880
    @ry8880 Před 3 lety +5

    Yay Finally, I was waiting for this video. Thank you so much Yuzutea

  • @Hannelitaa
    @Hannelitaa Před 3 lety +6

    Hooray! Your compilations are the best! Keep posting!

  • @user-kz9ev1gl2l
    @user-kz9ev1gl2l Před 3 lety +8

    Trusova Alexandra is the best of the best she's amazing and beautiful skate

  • @SkateInsider
    @SkateInsider Před 3 lety +18

    love zabet's 4S last year at worlds 😍

  • @microsickful
    @microsickful Před 3 lety +56

    Maybe I am just spoiled by the "Nathans" and the "Yuzus", but I can't get over how "forced" some of these quads look and how little flow these lady's have coming out of the jump. That doesn't change the fact that it is still an incredible feat for these ladies to be able jump these quads, just a personal observation of mine I guess.

    • @queenofnevers6990
      @queenofnevers6990 Před 3 lety +26

      just try to recall the first male quad jumpers. Were they as nice and smooth as quads these days?

    • @mrmatt24
      @mrmatt24 Před 3 lety +5

      Most of them look forced. It's impressive if they can really do them well, but otherwise it detracts from the beauty of their skating.

    • @siwonchang3818
      @siwonchang3818 Před 3 lety +1

      do you see the pre-rotation on Sasha Trusova’s quad flip (slo-mo at 6:30 ) or is that just me???
      edit: spelling error

  • @pandaxsofty177
    @pandaxsofty177 Před 3 lety +3

    Each time they do these impressive jumps I just hold my breath and wait till it’s over.

  • @rose-zn1oh
    @rose-zn1oh Před 3 lety +1

    Your new youtube background thing (idk what to call) is very beautiful. And I guess it is Surya on left -while doing her backflip wow very beautiful and creative liked it ☆

  • @sso_kartoffel6268
    @sso_kartoffel6268 Před 3 lety +22

    Yuzutea posted again :DDDDDDDDD

  • @zee3e
    @zee3e Před 3 lety +77

    yikes this is scary
    pre-rotation is going to keep on happening if this will become the standard
    those who cant do quads will see medals snatched by those who land them (even if they are "cheated")

    • @feyanormorfol2457
      @feyanormorfol2457 Před 3 lety +3

      "Prerotation" is not called in current rules, no matter what brainless idiots like "koola" says.

    • @feyanormorfol2457
      @feyanormorfol2457 Před 3 lety +1

      @@spicy_kitty7983 I think it's fair to respect actual rules, since they are same for all skaters.
      It's crazy when some fans say something like "Poor Polina/Yuna/Tomoe, she has little underrotation, but she jump lutz with zero prerotation!".. I mean, who cares, do the opposite!
      Prerotation ALWAYS was unlimited, but quads in ladies FS are new. Maybe, because even prerotation doesn't make jumps easy?
      Shoma or Lilibeth, they used to struggle even with so-sayed prerotated quads.
      If quads would be so easy to "cheat", Medvedeva would be jumping quads since 2018.

    • @queenofnevers6990
      @queenofnevers6990 Před 3 lety +7

      do you realise this is the first generation that lands quads and competes them consistently? It takes time to develop and adapt the technique. These ladies are making history, while you're whining to the screen.

    • @vanessazhang1961
      @vanessazhang1961 Před 3 lety +9

      @@feyanormorfol2457 i agree that koola isn't the best youtuber for skating, but imo prerotation is still an issue. with prerotation in the technique of your jumps, it'll be harder to maintain that jump once you grow or hit puberty :/

    • @feyanormorfol2457
      @feyanormorfol2457 Před 3 lety +1

      @@vanessazhang1961 why do you think that? It seems that all skaters have issues with their jumps after 20. Just because of chronical injures and chronical pressure.
      Yuna lost her 3Lo, Tsurskaia begun to pop her jumps...
      Prerotation always was unlimited. It's just Koola who was pissed off Medvedeva and her scores.
      Koola's fake analyzing video is the same like if some Lipnitskaia fan would stand with "Onlly Julia and Sasha Cohen used to have true I-spin with perfect split position!!!.."

  • @Edward-W
    @Edward-W Před 3 lety +29

    The toe jumps are a problem. It's not a quad if a whole 1/2 rotation is done with your pick on the ice. I don't understand how the judges are't calling them, it's clearly visible even in their own slo-mo footage

    • @amaday84
      @amaday84 Před 3 lety +2

      Just stop watching figure skating in slomo.

    • @kmt8528
      @kmt8528 Před 3 lety +6

      yet those jumps received +3 goes 🤢🤮

  • @That1CoolChick
    @That1CoolChick Před 3 lety +2

    I hate seeing them fall, but I love watching them finally land it! Go girls! 💛

  • @kadovax6567
    @kadovax6567 Před 3 lety +4

    Surya Bonaly was the first lady to attempt 4T and 4Sal in competitions, and with a grown body, with no success. I was not surprised she tried because her triples were very strong and she was fearless.

  • @jasonstamp10
    @jasonstamp10 Před 3 lety +2

    I had a ticket for Worlds in Montreal this year before it was all cancelled. I was really looking forward to seeing some of these women compete with a bit of a quad showdown. It would have been amazing I’m sure.

  • @kokonana4086
    @kokonana4086 Před 3 lety +7

    These Russian girls are amazing. They truly break new ground.

  • @kadovax6567
    @kadovax6567 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you very much for your video 💖💖💖

  • @millie6783
    @millie6783 Před 3 lety +32

    Anna's lutz edge is flat at best and will just move to an inside edge, WHY is she doing more advanced quad jumps with HORRIFIC technique?

  • @ungnani
    @ungnani Před 3 lety +13

    I cannot understand Anna's 4lz edges and her high goe.....

  • @sadiesholter6942
    @sadiesholter6942 Před 3 lety +3

    Can you do a video on the most iconic programs? I think it would be pretty cool! Thanks!

  • @amberadricula7649
    @amberadricula7649 Před 3 lety

    I was waiting for this

  • @lugeiger4924
    @lugeiger4924 Před 3 lety +16

    Sasha does it perfectly, schcherbakova lands unfinished

    • @archiouseemerald2268
      @archiouseemerald2268 Před 3 lety

      i wouldnt say perfectly* but her quad toes and quad sals are all the legit jumps but she did change technique when she changed coaches

  • @karlsamohin3282
    @karlsamohin3282 Před 3 lety +7

    Really nice video, but what about europeans? Tbh Alyssas quads are all < or

  • @quietautumn987
    @quietautumn987 Před 3 lety +17

    Love Sasha's 4lz

  • @galiyaa7149
    @galiyaa7149 Před 3 lety +21

    Hope Alena gets a quad next season too!!

  • @lugeiger4924
    @lugeiger4924 Před 3 lety +4

    holy hell that Veronika girl, 11yo landing quads!!

  • @laurenlampinen6219
    @laurenlampinen6219 Před 3 lety +1

    alena kanysheva also landed a 4t in practice with eteri before she quit

  • @IronLady.
    @IronLady. Před 3 lety +3

    Лизок молодец. Единственная взрослая наша . Трусовой успехов во всех прыжках.

  • @user-fi1do4lm1r
    @user-fi1do4lm1r Před 3 lety +3

    坂本選手の4Tはダウングレードでの転倒でしたが、
    個人的にとても良い挑戦だったと思います。
    彼女のジャンプ力があれば、今後も粘り強く練習を続けていけば
    意外と早く習得してしまうような気がします。

  • @gracepan8534
    @gracepan8534 Před 3 lety +1

    I see yuzutea is a fellow blink, great music taste

  • @TressBraga
    @TressBraga Před 3 lety +30

    Two words: HIP REPLACEMENT! Yikes, I wouldn't recommend doing these quad jumps until your bones have developed fully.

  • @bluedim34
    @bluedim34 Před 3 lety +5

    Sasha №1, quad's Queen, but not a world champion, which is a pity

  • @Ariantez
    @Ariantez Před 3 lety +2

    Just when u thought Yuzutea couldn't get better, it turns out they're a Blink 😀

  • @millie6783
    @millie6783 Před 3 lety +6

    omgggg im first love this

  • @emmcampbell4434
    @emmcampbell4434 Před 2 lety +2

    They got straight up babies trying quads these days

  • @nicov3928
    @nicov3928 Před 3 lety +1

    I thought what about Trusova and Samodelkina trying 4Lo, but saw then that this video got uploaded 6months ago.

  • @Helen-me1vn
    @Helen-me1vn Před 3 lety +5

    Anna Shcherbakova has the best air position; she's so tight and never off axis like so many of the other quads. She also has the softest landings that don't look hard on her knees when she lands them. Kamila has the best combination of height and distance, while Trusova's 4T has the best height. I think Kihira's 4S is the smallest quad, no?

    • @o_._o123
      @o_._o123 Před 3 lety

      Only Tuktamysheva's 4T in practice was smaller. But both skaters rotate fast so they don't need as much height.

  • @russki1978
    @russki1978 Před 3 lety +17

    Anna's jumps look the weirdest. Apart from the obvious edge problems and prerotation, she also bends over SOOO deep before jumping up, and her legs are also bent in a way that makes me shiver. Not to mention she's very skinny too. I don't like what I'm seeing.

  • @amandadean5470
    @amandadean5470 Před 3 lety +2

    There is video of Sasha attempting a 4Lo. The landing looks clean, but I'm not entirely sure.

  • @robertwilhelm9110
    @robertwilhelm9110 Před 3 lety

    Gymnastics in the Air 👍

  • @yimeizi2648
    @yimeizi2648 Před 3 lety +11

    I find Zhilina's 4S quite like Yuzuru's

  • @esterhalagova92
    @esterhalagova92 Před 3 lety +36

    Is it just me or Alysa's technique on lutzes is really bad?

    • @alessandroaiello4778
      @alessandroaiello4778 Před 3 lety +12

      better than sherbakova but not textbook

    • @eljj7968
      @eljj7968 Před 3 lety +19

      Pre-rotated and under-rotated. Hardly 'clean' as they call it.

    • @tommymorton4939
      @tommymorton4939 Před 3 lety +17

      @@alessandroaiello4778 Quite opposite. Liu does both UR and PR. Scherbakova at worst does only excessive PR.
      The only minimal PR quad is 4T of Trusova

    • @Helen-me1vn
      @Helen-me1vn Před 3 lety +3

      @@alessandroaiello4778 Anna has PR on her 4Lz and sometimes flat edge, but her 4Lz is also the biggest (more than Trusova's) and has the best air position. Also best landing, it's light with flow and no big "clunk" that is bad for the knees - something both Trusova and Liu have.

    • @qiqisongs
      @qiqisongs Před 3 lety +11

      Helen Anna does not have a bigger lutz than Trusova. It is of course easier for Anna to land effortlessly and jump high when she leaves the ice on a flat edge, in comparison to Trusova who leaves the ice on a deep outside edge. You can only compare the jump effortlessness and height between the two of them when Anna is able to do a proper deep outside lutz like Trusova.

  • @danielborisov5589
    @danielborisov5589 Před 3 lety +10

    *...and then there's me, under rotating a quad sal on a harness as a 5' 10" guy*

    • @kadovax6567
      @kadovax6567 Před 3 lety +1

      I cannot jump at all .....but I'm old 😂😂😂😂

  • @natesanti
    @natesanti Před 8 měsíci +1

    Anna 🥰

  • @tissia3
    @tissia3 Před 3 lety

    😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 Unbelievable!!!

  • @user-fc7nx1jg1k
    @user-fc7nx1jg1k Před 3 lety +1

    Восхитительно!!!

  • @bca-gv6zs
    @bca-gv6zs Před 3 lety +11

    I prefer athletes to jump clean plus no pre/ under rotation, rather than risking their health for quads.

  • @backiie3515
    @backiie3515 Před 3 lety

    I've always wondered. Why ladies use so little quad jumps? Is because of body structure? Cause the men's always have lots of quads

  • @kenanquitco
    @kenanquitco Před 3 lety +7

    Bigger question is which one of these is a TRUE quad 🤔

  • @imcavdb5465
    @imcavdb5465 Před 3 lety

    Yuzurea, do you think quads are the maximum turns in a jump?

    • @kadovax6567
      @kadovax6567 Před 3 lety +2

      Well, Yuzu landed quints in a harness.....but what cannot Yuzu do ☺

  • @lemontea.mp3579
    @lemontea.mp3579 Před 3 lety

    Um this is just an assumption please don’t take my word for it but is the reason why not many people are attempting the quad loop because you can’t cheat the takeoff?

    • @archiouseemerald2268
      @archiouseemerald2268 Před 3 lety

      its a difficult jump to execute even with a cheated take off you could underrotate it

  • @helenluo5112
    @helenluo5112 Před 3 lety +5

    Am I going crazy or do some of these jumps from the russian juniors look like triples?

  • @Lily-di6hm
    @Lily-di6hm Před 3 lety +10

    I’m literally twelve right now and doing doubles while these girls be like twelve doing quads 🤦‍♀️

    •  Před 3 lety +13

      Great for you thee 12 yo girls are damaging their bodies

    • @asd-pf4gy
      @asd-pf4gy Před 3 lety +17

      I'm sixteen and I can't even stand on ice, you're not that bad

    • @myz1c835
      @myz1c835 Před 3 lety

      @ how

    • @LC-sc3en
      @LC-sc3en Před 2 lety

      @@myz1c835 malnutrition, dehydration, insane levels of physical stress required to do quads. Many training and preforming while injured. At least according to their interviews. pictures.

  • @rnrbnl7097
    @rnrbnl7097 Před 3 lety +2

    With the new rules e.g blade assist and excessive PR, do you think these quads should earn a GOE above +2? If so, who's quad and what quad is it?
    I think all 4T so far won't be deducted. The flips and lutzes would be, that is if they do use the new rules 😂

  • @happymake
    @happymake Před 3 lety +39

    Its here to stay but most likely the ladies wont have a sustainable senior career. it also depends on the judges, which most likely will push them to focus on quads which will cheapen this phenomenon just like how triple triples became. But many sports are always like this, they always have to come out with something new or "better" until it reaches a breaking point thats when the system will change the rules or change the system. But anyways some of these quads are heavily prerotated and underrotated with incorrect technique that i wonder if they are even quads

  • @henryhernandez7769
    @henryhernandez7769 Před 3 lety +6

    so quad loop seems to be the most dificult quad

    • @qiqisongs
      @qiqisongs Před 3 lety +4

      DEFINITELY. Some people still think a quad loop is easier than quad lutz and quad flip, hence shouldnt have a raise in base value. Zzz

    • @juyifan7933
      @juyifan7933 Před 3 lety +16

      The typical understanding is that the hardest quads are lutz and flip. HOWEVER, these girls are doing cheated takeoff which makes the hardest quads into the easiest quads. There is a reason why some of these girls can do 4Lz, but cannot do 4T, is the cheated takeoff.
      Look at their 4Lz and 4F in slowmotion, in these jumps you are supposed to takeoff from the toe pick, but they fake the toepick and keep the blade on the ice, turning the jump into an edge jump. None of these girls have the explosive power to pull off a legit 4Lz, compare their Lutz with a legitimate one from Nathan Chen or Jin Boyang. Not at all the same jump.
      ISU needs to crack down on these fake toe jumps and clarify in the rule books how these should be called, but they wont because the russian skating federation has too much pull and at the moment their girls are the biggest beneficiaries of this.

    • @archimedespalimpsest1697
      @archimedespalimpsest1697 Před 3 lety +5

      I'd say quad axel is the most difficult one.
      As for legit 4Lz -- I don't see how Trusova's ones are much more illegitimate than an average one by Nathan Chen or Jin Boyang. Yeah, perhaps not as good as their best ones... but again, her 4Lz is like the 3rd quad in her program; come on.

    • @henryhernandez7769
      @henryhernandez7769 Před 3 lety

      Archimedes Palimpsest yes, i agree with the quad axel, but nobody landed it yet

    • @juyifan7933
      @juyifan7933 Před 3 lety +6

      @@archimedespalimpsest1697 Obviously the 4A is hardest, thats not even up for debate. But the 4A never enters these discussions as it has never been done and nobody knows whether it can even be done in the first place.
      With regards to Trusova's 4Lz. They are not toe jumps, it is completely obvious that they are not Lutz's. You can absolutely not compare it with Nathan. Nathan has the proper technique, he takes off from the toe pick, his 4Lz has deep outside edge and uses the toe pick to propel into the air. Trusova doesnt propel with the toe pick, she fakes the toe pick, but keeps the blade on ice and turns the jump into an edge jump. Most Eteri skaters use this cheated technique and Alysa Liu does this also.
      When all these girls start learning 4Lz as their first quad it is obvious that this cannot be legitimate! It is complete fantasy to believe these jumps are proper, any slowmotion clip shows otherwise. Just watch in this very video the jump starting at 6:29, toe pick at 6:31, yet full blade is on the ice at 6:32 and she finally takes off at 6:33

  • @user-ym6pb6zz1c
    @user-ym6pb6zz1c Před 3 lety +7

    4Fの綺麗さに関してはトゥルソワ→宇野→シェルバコワかな。
    シェルバコワとアリサはプレロテフルブレで論外。今までのメダル返せ。
    トゥルソワはトゥで跳んでるけどプレロテ気味。
    リーザと紀平さんは跳び方は正しいからもうちょっとって感じ。

  • @annieliu35
    @annieliu35 Před 2 lety

    12? AND DOING QUADS!!! burh im 12 trying to land a double axel

  • @user-de3vg8sn7r
    @user-de3vg8sn7r Před rokem +1

    Чтобы не говорили и не писали про Сашу ,а всё же ей нет равных пока !!!

  • @alicehodges483
    @alicehodges483 Před 3 lety +1

    I’m constantly torn between being impressed as all hell by these incredible ladies and scared as hell for them, especially when some of them aren’t even junior level, it just seems so young to be attempting such a huge challenge. Gotta respect them for it, tho

  • @francescavitale28
    @francescavitale28 Před 3 lety +12

    When are we going to address the fact that valieva lands on her inside edge?

  • @just_space_
    @just_space_ Před 3 lety +1

    Aiaiai aren’t these 11 and 12 old girls wrecking their bodies?? They’re doing these giant jumps that are straining to the body but do they have the body mass to cope with the impact?? Being underweight is a serious risk for the joints

  • @kiyoomisakusa8214
    @kiyoomisakusa8214 Před 3 lety

    i don’t know if it’s their positions in landings but i think they can work on making it more graceful. and i know it’s not simply because the impact of the quad is heavier, because their other triple and double jumps are landed the in the same posture/position.

    • @rnrbnl7097
      @rnrbnl7097 Před 3 lety

      Maybe it's coz they all lack a good running edge out of their quads.

  • @maverickvaughne
    @maverickvaughne Před 3 lety +22

    These Russian girls throwing quads as if they're just running around. Anna's quad lutz still looks like an edge jump. Sasha and Anna's quads are maximizing pre-rotations like they've got one rotation before going airborne.

    • @feyanormorfol2457
      @feyanormorfol2457 Před 3 lety +2

      It was discussed many times before: there are no such mistakes as "full-blade assist" and "prerotation" in official rules. They exist only in Koola's imagination.

    • @benbailey159bb
      @benbailey159bb Před 3 lety

      @@feyanormorfol2457 Apparently you havn't seen the rules update. Full blade assist IS now in the rules!

    • @baaa9531
      @baaa9531 Před 3 lety +1

      @@benbailey159bb not anymore they did go back to old rules this week i think

    • @SergejKrolik
      @SergejKrolik Před 3 lety +4

      @@benbailey159bb it WAS in the rule. However any definition of what is full-blade assist wasn't given. Judging by the name only - it should mean when skater uses full-blade at take-off. However, I have never seen such a case - even in edge jumps skaters uses half-blade or 3/4 blade at worst. It's impossible to take-off when all of a blade's surface touches the ice. So what ISU officials meant by that - remains a mystery.

    • @kadovax6567
      @kadovax6567 Před 3 lety +1

      @@feyanormorfol2457 there's no PR ri3le in the part of the rules that deals with "take off", although there's mention of toe and axel. On the other hand their videos showing how to execute a jump shows Lz and F are the 2 jumps which needed to be executed with less than 90 degres PR. I agree judges don't penalise excessive PR, but well, they should.
      KK was mean and she only went after Zhenya because she breaked Yuna Kim records with a wrong-edge Lz thst was never called. But it's not Zhenya fault.

  • @friendlyporkchop
    @friendlyporkchop Před 3 lety +3

    this is just a "russians be crazy" comp

  • @TheNairaa
    @TheNairaa Před 2 lety

    Amazing women ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💯

  • @irinapopandopulo2703
    @irinapopandopulo2703 Před 2 lety

    Trusova 👍

  • @crazylikestar5999
    @crazylikestar5999 Před 10 měsíci

    It just kinda freaks me out every single time how Anna gets a 3.45 GEO for a lutz with no edge.

    • @natesanti
      @natesanti Před 8 měsíci

      Maybe you just don’t know what you’re talking about.

  • @sophiezhang7258
    @sophiezhang7258 Před 3 lety +19

    QUAD FLUTZ anna’s quad lutz should not be EVER consider a lutz

    • @kmt8528
      @kmt8528 Před 3 lety +8

      even her triples shouldn’t be considered as triples

    • @sophiezhang7258
      @sophiezhang7258 Před 3 lety +3

      Kat Ao Tai obviously not I could give you an entire list of all of her mistakes and you definitely don’t have to be a judge to notice these

  • @leonygomes_
    @leonygomes_ Před 3 lety +2

    what means < and

    • @taylorlefevre3491
      @taylorlefevre3491 Před 3 lety +4

      < means underrotated. Underrotated jumps are jumps that are missing a rotation of 1/4 to 1/2.

  • @adream5945
    @adream5945 Před 3 lety +22

    Unfortunately most of them can be achieved because they cheated without getting called as it was too fast to be noticed right on the spot. Toe jumps with full blade assistance and prerotations (legs only leave the ice at 1/2 when they should leave before 1/4).

    • @kadovax6567
      @kadovax6567 Před 3 lety +1

      Only Lz and F must have less than 90 degres PR. That's said, the less PR on all jumps, the better.

  • @anonimorph
    @anonimorph Před 8 měsíci

    amazing. im gonna pretend for a while that i approve of these girls doing something incredible using horrible foundation.

  • @watchmedo635
    @watchmedo635 Před rokem +1

    Makes me sad seeing how many of the girls in these videos have either retired due to injury of ED snow :( quads are cool, but should be banned whilst they are so young

  • @chrisresuta6675
    @chrisresuta6675 Před 3 lety +9

    2:02
    It looks downgraded.

    • @bone9jdjkaye
      @bone9jdjkaye Před 3 lety +1

      I wouldn't say it's missing 1/2 a rotation on the landing. I agree with tech caller

    • @kadovax6567
      @kadovax6567 Před 3 lety +1

      It was called < and it's correct to me.

  • @saratahvanainen5207
    @saratahvanainen5207 Před 3 lety +2

    All the girls have blue dresses!!💙💙

  • @yugiohlegend
    @yugiohlegend Před 2 lety

    Never did I think I’d see a 12 year old land a quad. Holy shit (Edit: AND AN 11 YEAR OLD??? I DIDNT KNOW ZHILINA LANDED ONE THAT YOUNG OMG)

  • @nurzhanbelyal8801
    @nurzhanbelyal8801 Před 3 lety +1

    umm, where is Elizabet, because she performed 4 s in official competitions.

  • @adriananunez9153
    @adriananunez9153 Před 3 lety +1

    I love Anna but her technique is honestly horrible. Really hoping she gets the chance to work on it.

  • @skatergirl1247
    @skatergirl1247 Před 3 lety +5

    I'm sorry but Anna's never done a real lutz in her life. At least Sasha and Alysa have real lutzes, and no hammer toe. Seeing her at the WC a few weeks ago, she may never land a quad again, which is unfortunate because she definitely is a passionate skater, with talent.

  • @user-kz9ev1gl2l
    @user-kz9ev1gl2l Před 3 lety +2

    Anna is beautifully and strong skateer and shoot wheel showers more

  • @the_eloina
    @the_eloina Před 3 lety +2

    🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

  • @ninetynice99
    @ninetynice99 Před 3 lety +1

    I like this quad squad ladies... Even i kinda hope this won't be a sport that focusing only to jump, but i think this gonna be a new standard. There will be more and more younger ladies skaters done triple and quads.
    But the only question, how much their body can handle this? They will need to train harder to keep it in shape after puberty/adult body. Especially female body change like... a lot! They might facing injuries more often than non-quad skaters. Can they cope the hurt and traumatic feeling quad injury could give?
    So, triple skaters beat by quad skaters and quad skaters beat by injuries.
    Even Yuzuru Hanyu, he still tend to have traumatic feeling to face, before decide to perform again a quad that gave him injuries, or even come back to the events he got injured.
    I just hope quad squad ladies would never get injuries especially that threatening their career.

  • @charliesimpson3879
    @charliesimpson3879 Před 3 lety +14

    Am I the only person that thinks that quads take the danger too far and distract from the beauty of the programme. The landings never look clean or steady and lack any flow. Obviously it’s incredible technical ability but most of these jumps look painful being as they are done by such young girls

    • @automnejoy5308
      @automnejoy5308 Před 3 lety +7

      Agreed. Quads always look strained and painful but at the same time unimpressive somehow. I honestly don't see any beauty in them. A clean triple performed by a tall, mature skater is SO much more beautiful and impressive.

  • @womaner1004
    @womaner1004 Před 3 lety

    So many nice russian juniors... why 금메달 강탈했냐 솥뚜껑아

  • @shawnwoodward4522
    @shawnwoodward4522 Před 3 lety

    I can tell Alexandra Trusova has a cheat takeoff but she fully rotates mostly all the quads, her axis may be a bit off and I hope she will do well after changing coach