@@fricknjeep You will not get a Darwin award. Your family will. Darwins are only awarded when people do stupid stuff that permanently removes their DNA from the gene pool.
@@fricknjeep I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU HAVE AVOIDED SERIOUS INJURY OR DEATH. WHEN IT HAPPENS, YOU WILL ONLY HAVE YOURSELF TO BLAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BTW, IN THE PAST YEAR 4 PEOPLE I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING ON CZcams HAVE DIED!!!! I GRIEVE OVER LOSING THEIR COUNSEL, THEIR HUMOR, THEIR BEAUTIFUL AND ANGELIC VOICES. WILL I MISS YOU????????????????? NO!!!!
@@sjb3460 hi there i think you are not telling the whole truth about the 4 people that passed ,if you are telling the truth who are they and how did they dye , on or at a sawmill .most likely not. are you the kind of person that drives down a road you know a lot of fatal accidents have occurred on then have the arrogance to say what others do is on safe ,There is a name for people like you .don't forget the names and channels so i can fact check , thanks for stopping in john
@@fricknjeep Its the uncertainty of the viewer that makes it so scary, looking at the title and not knowing whats going to happen next! Anyhow, please remain safe, with both sawmills and cars.
Not sure, but from your looks, I'm guessing that I'm older than you are. Still working 40+ hrs. a week tho in the construction field. What I've learned about aging is that my eyesight, hand dexterity, and agility on my feet have gradually lessened. It makes what we do for a living more hazardous than it once was. I slightly misjudge where my feet and fingers are. I stumble on things that I never would have 10yrs ago. Be more careful. We don't notice the decline sneaking up on us. Love the video.
I understand exactly what you mean! I'm 70 and still millwrighting. I don't have any plans to retire but my reflexes may decide that issue for me. Cataracts are making it difficult to weld, my knees are giving me fits, and I trip going UP stairs. But, Im still contributing to the workplace and teaching younger people how to do the job. Now, if I could only remember where I set my coffee cup down...
@@FRLN500 hi there its in that special place , i don't know why i can't find my special it has to be big . i have tons of stuff in it . thanks for stopping by john
I’m thinking big ass saw blade ! I’m glad it won’t a hand Gone missing or a damn board kicking back ! like I said big ass saw-blade/Board bazooka !! 🙀 Ain’t their neighbor kids or grandkids to sticker them boards for you happy sawing
Hey John. Some people wouldn't put this video out for a view, professional pride or whatever. This is a great lesson to everyone who appreciates your video's and your work. Thanks for posting and I'm really glad no great damage was done to you or your machinery. What you can't see can hurt you is a lesson for me from this. More power to you.
hi there i show just about everything , seams alot of the times when i turn the camera off is when something happens , it seams like NASCAR people want to see the crash , glad you stopped by john
I love watching the old Sawmills in action, I was good friends with the Sawyer in town that had an Old Sawmill and used to watch it in operation all the time. It's only dangerous when you don't know what you're doing, but it does look like you could use a helper, although finding a good helper that's not going to kill himself in the process of helping you is tough to find. So sometimes you're better off by yourself instead of the helper hurting himself
I started at 15 working packing lumber with a sawmill like that my brother in laws family owned for sixty yrs or more not sure but seeing this vid sure brought back some good memories thanks for posting it
The whole time I'm watching this I'm thinking, 'What the Hell is He doing'? He knows better!? Always turn your equipment off when adjusting the material, try to not stand in the path of destruction. 😢
There is a reason why workers comp/OSHA made it a requirement to have safety cages and operator booths with plexiglass protection on these head rig/carriage mills! You might say these are real men but accidents happened all time injuring men very badly quite regularly! A piece of metal in the log can shatter the blade sending high speed chunks of blade flying! Absolutely killing everyone in its path!
Looks like a cool old Jeep in the back there!! I was waiting for something catostrophic, don't think that was near fatal, but honestly, GLAD IT WASN'T!
hi there yes some nice old wore out jeeps . got rid of a few in the last couple of years , down sizing , i just nicked one dog , thought i was going to mis it but . thanks for stopping in john
Worked as a safety engineer for St. Regis, Champion, Gilman, and GP to name a few. I ALWAYS CRINGE WHEN I SEE PEOPLE TRYING TO GET IN A HURRY OR GET CARELESS. I HAVE SEEN SOME HORRIFIC ACCIDENTS. REMBER. SAFETY NEVER SLEEPS!. STAY SAFE!!! BTW, I WOULD HAVE WRITTEN YOU UP FOR SEVERAL INFRACTIONS. YOU DON'T GET SECOND CHANCES.
I've been around these mills as a helper and of course I been around many a tool. Love these old saws. We have a tendency to become complacent when we do a thing for a long time and become good at it. Consider your mishap a reminder to self correct bad habits we learned due to over confidence and wanting to be efficient. Suggestion: If you wish to continue with reaching out and pulling the board away from the blade after its cut, consider using your other hand (your left). Reason: it is further away from the blade and you'll be reaching toward the blade straight on or perpendicular to the blade. The left arm; as you stood, naturally the elbow bends out away from the blade and unlike the right arm not toward the cutting path of the blade. Be safe. Work smart and keep cutting - lumber.
Well you and Mark and ... Out of the woods.. All three of y'all does a outstanding job of explaining what you are doing. I bought logs for a small sawmill that cut rail road ties. I watched them some so I enjoy what you do.
@@fricknjeep at one time we used 10 tree length loads a day average or more. Three full time logging crews. I then had a friend who might cut a load a week. I just enjoy seeing a good sawer.
That's an amazing setup and nice looking lumber, but there's a heckuva lot that can go wrong there with exposed moving parts. I grew up on a farm and we had a lot of machinery that was dangerous...I did a lot of things I shouldn't have, but no way I'd take a chance milling lumber here. If it works for you, though, more power to ya!
Every time you reached for that wood to pull it off and stack it I almost couldn’t look because I thought you were going to cut off an arm or something 😳 Be careful man!!!!
The most garish of action and horror movies have never made me flinch, hate the nanny state, but a few seconds of this had me squealing. That spinning blade is straight out a Video Nasty!
@@fricknjeep yea man. You may also need a riving knife. And I will have to agree with the other folks that your hand was a bit to close. You had me. Very scared whenever that board was right up against the saw. You may need a different method to remove wood.
@@spongeorpete7289 hi there would like to have a Eddie . The camera makes look worse then it is . just think there are more people cut with a kitchen knife then a saw blade .thanks for stopping by john
I thought the comments were silly, had it going in background, glanced over to see him reaching right at the blade to pull a board away and pull it towards him where it could get kicked by the blade. Osha didn't exist when these mills were standard and it shows
All the folks saying "Oooo, so dangerous!" He's touching the blade where it's smooth, no teeth. I've pulled thousands of board feet of lumber off a mill like this....he's not doing anything out of the ordinary. Growin' up in the country, every other farm had a mill just like that all up & down the Appalachians, and every kid learned to run 'em. We couldn't run to Home Depot every time we needed boards to fix the hog pen. If y'all had been born 200 years ago the industrial revolution would have never happened.
hi there thank you so much . this is the difference from all the commenters that have never been around a sawmill . have you read some of the comments . the one that made me laugh was you should lower the blade for shorter logs . it is sure nice to here from a sawyer thanks john
@@crashland5711 And when they died like flies from easily preventable accidents, due to not having proper regulations and protections. But hey! You're a smart, manly, man's man? Why don't y'all head on over to Somalia, where there's no annoying gubbermint to tell you how to live your life.
hi this is the way wood was sawed for years , i am not here to set examples , as for safety answer me a question or 2 . do you drive a car on the roads ? and a road where you know someone was killed , but still drive on that road , and how many people have you known killed on a sawmill . i will be waiting for you answer , thanks for stopping by john
Hello John. I am a Master Carpenter specialising in Georgian and Victorian restoration and have been working safely for 47 years in the industry. I have responsibility for 8 people in my workshop. I agree that woodworking methods and machines in the past were extremely dangerous compared to today's safety standards, but that is no justification to be a Luddite. I have a few machines that are older than your saw and I have upgraded these with 8 second stop electric brakes, suitable guards and forced air extraction. Your driving analogy is irrelevant to your woodworking scenario. A more accurate question would be, "Have you ever driven down a road completely drunk, disabled the air bags whilst travelling at twice the speed limit "? And the answer is no. I haven't done this because everyone has a duty of care to minimise risk. In your scenario, you had total decision as to whether you took a high-risk strategy, or whether you took the safest route. You chose the former and the outcome was inevitable and predictable. What is saddest for me is your lack of contrition and absolved liability for safe woodworking practice. You would not be employed in my company as, with that mindset you would pose too high a risk.
@@timheywood4813 hi first of all i would like to thank you for getting back to me . there is a lot to go over here , i kind of feel like you are compairing a shovel with a backhoe or a wheel barrow to a dump truck .to stop a 54-56 blade in seconds would cause a catastrophic failure in another area,the going down the road was a your own level of risk factor acceptance.i kind of get the feeling you have never been that close to a sawmill , the biggest safety tool around equipment is lack of common sense ,attention ,and the other guys lack of it or inexperience . i would like to go on . thank you john
Unfortunately there's not much safe running a ground mill. I worked with a man running one , he would say , It don't pay much but it will make a man out of ya. I had no idea a few years after working at that farm sawmill I'd go to work at a production mill learning sawfiling and spend 33 years sawmilling. I've seen things that made his love tap just that a tap. Give him credit for being attentive , hearing it before it got worse and shutting it down.
It’s kinda scary watching you get so close to the circle saw , looks like you could make a couple of rollers that slowly turn backwards to bring the planks back and maybe some adjustable wedge near the top of board at the other end to flip the plank on its side
I've been cutting lumber all my life, I nipped the tips of 3 fingers in 79. And his setup scares the bejeebers out of me. Especially at his age. I know speaking for myself, "I ain't as good as I once was!" Slow down, with blades as big as that you can't afford to be stupid!
Me sitting here, scared to death waiting on it. Sure am glad that's all there was was a polishing and not a notch out of the doggie. Yessir, they're tapered, all right. And there ain't but a fuzz between go and NO. Just glad YOU're all right. They're making blades, rings and bits every day but there's just one sawyer John. A little swaging and filing and off goes the short bus motor. Your and Marks motors must be spot on because there's no gagging and sputtering when you light them off. Just ready to GO! GBWYou!
Just now found your site, Damn , what a machine , when i was a kid 70 years 77 now there was a sawmill like that one down the road only bigger ? Ever year there was two are three people lost there hands, arms and even got killed . I know , you know every inch of this old girl so be safe will you , i want to see some more of your video's, See Ya Texas
hi there do you know of anyone hert at a sawmill . but i will bet you drive down a road where lots of people have been killed . have you ever been around a sawmill ? thanks john
@@fricknjeep I've been around all manner of machines in my life and have seen some horrific accidents caused by a mere split second lapse in concentration. Probably the one that stays with me the most was a girl operating a 150 ton knuckle press being distracted for a split second and stuck her hand into the tooling as the cycle initiated. A few people around her lost their lunch and her entire hand was crushed paper thin.
As a person who doesn’t understand why this is a near fatal - it must be that blade as big as it is could have sent shrapnel into you had the dog or blade or both sheared off at those high speeds? Glad you’re okay. I can picture some bureaucrat watching this thinking,” If only I could make a law demanding every wood mill be retrofitted with an automatic sensor that would prevent this…” I almost couldn’t watch this. Each time the saw would cycle and you reached in there to flip the board over - I kept thinking here it comes. But there is something satisfying about watching that man and machine do it’s thing.
Cool old saw, it sounds like a tractor running when you started it. does it run off of the tractor?Ive seen these a few times, how old is it? I would however not get my hands near that blade nor jump down off of that saw feed rack like you did with that blade running though, be safe man. Cool video.
a kickback is the most dangerous risk -more so than getting hands near the smooth part of the blade lovely piece of kit though -the speed it was cutting at is amazing
Hit EM Bad. I was in a mill very similar to this.. Belt drive and leather laced belts. 1978 - I got to the mill - a week after this happened. Sawyer pulled a log on the deck, He set the carriage to pull the first cut. What no one knew - is a steel bullet was hidden in the tree. I think it was a 60 or 72 inch saw. About half way thru the first cut - The was a roar out of the saw blade - and the strong-backs where broken out of the saw - and they fired the teeth into the roof - over the carriage in a line - and the teeth sounded like shots out of a firearm, as the embedded in a line - into the roof.. In my mind - there is a canterman, to roll the logs on the carriage. A carriage rider - dog-man - set the dogs when needed - The sawyer controlled the carriage. A good sawyer - would never have a carriage not moving. The canterman and dogman - and the sawyer worked as a team. Before they spun the saw - the sawyer briefed them on what they wanted the most of. The sawyer never touched a board - because getting finger width distance from the saw - was something they - the owner did not approve of. So - where the board fell - there was trim saw - edgerman - he ran the boards thru a gang saw - and made boards. A Pilot - was on the edge of this stickering and piling everything - 12x12, 14x14 - 16x16. 4x24x32 ft - Wet - Hemlock. I was that guy for 2 summers. I love the old time rigs.
hi there nice story i have hit a lot of bullets . all lead i guess that may have been steel , thats one of the reasons they went to a double circle blade . the off bearer is the most important person at the mill thanks for the story . was any one hurt thanks john
hi there it is the camera angle , kind of like holding a fish you just cough out in front of you to make it look bigger .So glad you dropped in and gave it a watch and also left a comment , thank you john
hi there this is the way logs were turned to lumber for over 100 years , it is safer than a knife on a cutting board in a kitchen . it just looks scary .thanks for stopping in , john
The drawback of complacency and trying to get that last 1/4” of board cut. I felt his surprise! Never push your luck! There should be a deadman kind of setup so if you get hung up the feed or blade stops feeding.
Our woodworking shop had a sign over the enormous chop saw that showed a hand missing three fingers. The caption read "Awarded for not replacing a guard." Quite a few old timers in that shop were missing bits. I learned early on never to rush around machines and taught it to all the apprentices.
That crappy male log turned out some decent siding after all. You gave that dog a little kiss. That'll be a good wake up call. Keeps a guy on his toes!!
Just caught your video. I admire a man that can admit he made a mistake especially when he can still blame it on the sun. 😂. New sub. Looking forward to catching more videos. Honestly glad to see you were not injured.
hi there . pushed my luck a bit to far , there are over 1400 videos ,may find some that interest you . a bit of everything .So glad you stopped in ,best to all thanks john
hi there well i understand what you are saying but 2 or 3 things , do you know of someone hurt on a sawmill ? do you go to work or drive down a road that people were killed on ? have you ever cut your self with a kitchen knife ? you have to be careful in every part of daily life . thanks for stopping by john
You ever happen to notice how when you make a cut the material all moves away from you AND the blade at the end of the pass. And how you have to stand back as far from the blade as possible AND how hard it is to REVERSE the work and product flow to drag the boards the mill PULLS AWAY FROM YOU LIKE SOMEBODY THAT BUILT THE SAWMILL THOUGHT LETTING YOU TRY TO SEND THE CARRIAGE AWAY FROM YOU BY PULLING A LEVER AND BRINGING IT BACK PAST YOU WITH A PULL AND KEEPING ALL CONTROLS WHERE THEY KEEP YOU BACK FROM THE BLADE MIGHT KEEP YOU FROM DUMB SHIT LIKE TRYING TO PULL THE PRODUCT BACK INTO HARMS WAY BY HAND AND REACHING INTO THE DEATH ZONE BAREHANDED AND EVEN STICKING FOREIGN OBJECTS THAT LOOK TO BE STEEL RIGHT INTO KERF - THE "SLOT" BETWEEN BLADE AND BOARD - TRYING TO "FLOP" A STANDING BOARD BACK AWAY FROM THE BLADE SO YOU CAN LITERALLY HANDLE IT FROM THERE AND AGAIN SEND IT OUT THE FRONT TO CUT IT WAY CLEAR OF THE SAW AND AUTOMATICALLY WITH A SIMPLE HAND PULL BUT "GO IN AFTER" THE PRODUCT PLANK FROM BEHIND AND BY HAND PULL IT AND STACK IT ON THE LOG END OF YOUR OPERATION? PROBABLY NOT. AND IT'S NOT LIKE YOUR INSISTENCE ON HANDLING THE RAW MATERIAL AND PRODUCT AS MANY TIMES AS POSSIBLE WHILE "MULTITASKING" AND "SORTING" THE PLANKS RIGHT OUT OF - AND IN BOTH DIRECTIONS - THE MILL ITSELF IN A MANNER THAT RESULTS IN THE CARRIAGE MOVING LESS MATERIAL AND PRODUCT "BACK AND FORTH" TO GET THEM "IN AND OUT"? IT'S NO WONDER YOU'VE GOT SUCH A CLUSTERFUCK OF A "LUMBERYARD" THERE AND HAVE ASH GETTING MILDEWED AND RANDOM PILES OF SHIT EVERYWHERE AND APPARENTLY SO MUCH FREE TIME AND EXCESS ENERGY AND BLADE, BELTS, FUEL AND MONEY TO BURN YOU USE YOUR SAWMILL TO MAKE PINE LOGS INTO PINE SQUARES AND A HOLE PILE OF THEM AS YOU TRY TO "GET SOMETHING" OUT OF PINE LOGS THAT WILL STILL BE PINE PLANKS AND ROUGH SAWN AND WITH ZERO CHANCE OF USING A SAWMILL AS A "SURFACE PLANER" SUCCESSFULLY TO "GET" 1-BY PINE LUMBER OUT OF "TIMBER" AND WHEN REALITY FINALLY SINKS IN AND YOU REALIZE YOUR "PRODUCTION" ENDED UP BEING NEGATIVE "BOARD FEET" YOUR "LEMONS OUT OF LEMONADE" (I'LL PRETEND IT WAS LIFE THAT GAVE YOU THE PULPWOOD PINE AND "SAWMILL" SET UP FOR "RIPPING" LOGS INTO 2-BYS AND EVEN 3-BYS (BRIDGE PLANKS) AND NOT REMOTELY INTENDED TO TURN OUT EVEN UTILITY GRADE BOARDS ALL BY ITSELF WITHOUT A REAL "MILL" IN SITE AND CERTAINLY A "SINO" (SAWYER IN NAME ONLY" BEHIND THE CONTROLS WHEN HE'S NOT BETWEEN THE CONTROLS AND THE BLADE TRYING TO "PILE" THE SHIT HE'S TURNING BACK WHERE IT CAME FROM IN THE "RAW MATERIAL" AREA AND "STACK" THE OCCASIONAL "PALLET PINE" PLANK THE "MILL" MANAGES TO "GET" EVERY FEW PASSES WHEN THE PLANETS ALIGN, THE BELTS BITE, THE BLADE BENDS LESS, THE CARRIAGE STAYS BEHIND THE HORSE, THE TEETH THAT "NEED SHARPENED" (YOU CAN "SIT THERE" AND SHARPEN SAW TEETH UNTIL THEY SCARE VELOCIRAPTORS TO DEATH BUT UNTIL YOU LEARN HOW TO SET TEETH AND DO IT CORRECTLY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY STOP USING A BUZZ SAW BLADE FOR "MILLING" YOU'LL STILL BE THE "SURPRISE SAWYER" WONDERING WHEN THAT "INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY" IS GOING TO FIND SOME "LOGS" IT "LIKES" SO YOU CAN START STACKING SOME COLD CASH INSTEAD OF TURNING OUT BETTER FUNGUS THAN ASH.
hi there i sure am sad you wrote this , i have no idea if you really know anything about what you are writing about . I am going to leave it posted because no one would ever believe or understand all the stuff you have just wrote , also with 270 subs and 2 videos you obviously are a lot better at being a critic then content creator ,i also noticed at your channel you only have one shot that hit the red .thanks for dropping in john
My friend has a mill like that, I think he had some guard that hit the blade, shit came loose and peeled half his face back past his ear, he lived. He got right back on the horse, also made some improvements
That sure is faster than a band saw mill but a much bigger kerf! You need a helper on the back of that saw to pull the wood away after the cut- pull it away from the blade!
I can only imagine the mess your property is ! Your complacency in the extremely dangerous situation you are in tells me you've been extremely lucky, luck is bound to run out, just like cowboy pilots
I'm seven metric minutes in, and all I can say right now is, that blade doesn't need to be spinning while you plant the next cut.... Then you opened the throttle
Saw runs towards the good side when corners are knocked off one side or most of them. Its like front brakes on car if one stopped working it would pull to the side that is. Most would believe knocking entire tooth out would make saw mark cant and / or board but no. If a corner is missing even one tooth it is pulled to the good side and thats what will mark.
Retired cabinet here. Once he hit the dog the safe thing is to stop and check the blade for damage. A damaged blade could cause more accidents. Also you can hear how the motor is lagging after the hit because it is ruined. Always listen to your machines. They tell you how they are working!
That’s why I always dreaded that last close cut when the dogs are a fraction away from the saw. I never hit a dog but the worst was a surprise porcelain fence insulator - ruined all 44 bits. I tried to re swage them but they were never worth much after that.
Been There Done That. . . Porcelain Insulators just Grind Every Tooth Down to a Stump. The old Glass Insulators aren't any better. I've Nicked the dogs a couple times (as did the Sawyer Before Me and the one before him) but got by it quick enough to just knock the corner off of one side of a Couple Teeth. Nails generally take out more teeth than that depending on what angle you hit them at.
good on ya for showing an honest review. good thing they's replacable bits. what's your sawdust handling system like? Used to be a partner on a headsaw outfit...man the sawdust piled up quick
hi there i hit the dog . i have 2 friends that hit the dogs this year , with were fatal to the blades . 3000. per blade times 2 . thanks for stopping in john
@@fricknjeep Well dang, I thought I was gonna see it take an arm or a leg off not a dog! Oh well, it got me to subscribe to your channel anyway! Thumbs up and happy sawing!
Hi Man, you scared the living crap out of me watching you reach in and grabbing the lumber away from the blade. Thank goodness you only killed the dog and didn't saw your fingers off. At least use a stick to tip the boards away from the blade. You have a really nice sounding engine running the mill. What kind is it?? Take care and be careful my friend!! Logger Al
I have cut wood for 40 years doing firewood. Back in the 90s I saw a guy whack a leg at the calf where it joins the abdomin clean off. The loader operator was knocking down trees I heard a faint oh over the noise then I saw the dozer operator his eyes lunged out of his head he said top of his lungs H---y S*** Tourniquet that s-- O- a B--- he was telling the other guy cutting had a shirt he tied deathgrip tight around the leg then yelled CALL 911 911. It is a very memorable unforgettable experience to see someone's body one place and their leg lying in the woods. The adrenaline and the tourniquet saved his life. You don't forget seeing in person a near fatal accident like that. That was AWFUL. Ole Bubba cut His leg off.
OUCH !! I hate it when that happens !! Good thing ya just bumped it and caught it quick … but no matter, at that time speed you’re gonna bugger up something if you hit metal of any kind. Well… except gold.
You are not the only person I see doing stupid stuff on CZcams. Have you ever heard of The Darwin Awards?
hi there yes i have , think i have a few , glad you stopped in john
@@fricknjeep You will not get a Darwin award. Your family will. Darwins are only awarded when people do stupid stuff that permanently removes their DNA from the gene pool.
@@fricknjeep I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU HAVE AVOIDED SERIOUS INJURY OR DEATH. WHEN IT HAPPENS, YOU WILL ONLY HAVE YOURSELF TO BLAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW, IN THE PAST YEAR 4 PEOPLE I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING ON CZcams HAVE DIED!!!! I GRIEVE OVER LOSING THEIR COUNSEL, THEIR HUMOR, THEIR BEAUTIFUL AND ANGELIC VOICES.
WILL I MISS YOU????????????????? NO!!!!
@@sjb3460 hi there i think you are not telling the whole truth about the 4 people that passed ,if you are telling the truth who are they and how did they dye , on or at a sawmill .most likely not. are you the kind of person that drives down a road you know a lot of fatal accidents have occurred on then have the arrogance to say what others do is on safe ,There is a name for people like you .don't forget the names and channels so i can fact check , thanks for stopping in john
Walking around a Fully Exposed Blade like that and Using Your Fingers To get the Previous Cut away from the Blade is Asking for Trouble in My Book.
hi there it is the way logs and sawmills have worked for the last 120 years , but your right , , thanks for stopping in john
@@fricknjeep there's a reason why they don't do it this way any more
hi there and there is a reason lots do , thanks for stopping by john@@jonbowman88893543
Goddamn right
@@jonbowman88893543 screw off, John. thanks for stopping by
Who needs horror movies when you can watch videos like this and have the most intense 20mins of your life.
hi there i dont think it is quite as bad as it looks ,i feel safer than driving down the road or flying ,So glad you dropped in .Thank you john
@@fricknjeep Its the uncertainty of the viewer that makes it so scary, looking at the title and not knowing whats going to happen next! Anyhow, please remain safe, with both sawmills and cars.
Spot on
Not sure, but from your looks, I'm guessing that I'm older than you are. Still working 40+ hrs. a week tho in the construction field. What I've learned about aging is that my eyesight, hand dexterity, and agility on my feet have gradually lessened. It makes what we do for a living more hazardous than it once was. I slightly misjudge where my feet and fingers are. I stumble on things that I never would have 10yrs ago. Be more careful. We don't notice the decline sneaking up on us. Love the video.
hi there nice story . i will be 70 in a few months thanks john
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I understand exactly what you mean! I'm 70 and still millwrighting. I don't have any plans to retire but my reflexes may decide that issue for me. Cataracts are making it difficult to weld, my knees are giving me fits, and I trip going UP stairs. But, Im still contributing to the workplace and teaching younger people how to do the job. Now, if I could only remember where I set my coffee cup down...
@@FRLN500 hi there its in that special place , i don't know why i can't find my special it has to be big . i have tons of stuff in it . thanks for stopping by john
I’m thinking big ass saw blade ! I’m glad it won’t a hand Gone missing or a damn board kicking back ! like I said big ass saw-blade/Board bazooka !! 🙀 Ain’t their neighbor kids or grandkids to sticker them boards for you happy sawing
Hey John. Some people wouldn't put this video out for a view, professional pride or whatever. This is a great lesson to everyone who appreciates your video's and your work. Thanks for posting and I'm really glad no great damage was done to you or your machinery. What you can't see can hurt you is a lesson for me from this. More power to you.
hi there i show just about everything , seams alot of the times when i turn the camera off is when something happens , it seams like NASCAR people want to see the crash , glad you stopped by john
Did you see how bad he shook when it hit the dog? He was getting ready to run away lol. Scary shit right there.
hi there didnt see what you saw john@@grasscutter88
I love watching the old Sawmills in action, I was good friends with the Sawyer in town that had an Old Sawmill and used to watch it in operation all the time. It's only dangerous when you don't know what you're doing, but it does look like you could use a helper, although finding a good helper that's not going to kill himself in the process of helping you is tough to find. So sometimes you're better off by yourself instead of the helper hurting himself
hi there kind of the way i look at it , thanks john
I started at 15 working packing lumber with a sawmill like that my brother in laws family owned for sixty yrs or more not sure but seeing this vid sure brought back some good memories thanks for posting it
hi there good story thanks and for stopping by john
As someone who might have chance to do this, I appreciate your video a lot. Thank you truly for putting this for many person.
The whole time I'm watching this I'm thinking, 'What the Hell is He doing'? He knows better!?
Always turn your equipment off when adjusting the material, try to not stand in the path of destruction. 😢
hi you would never get a log sawed that way , john
The problem with doing something for years is you tend to do it without thinking about it, and it’s not hard to make major mistakes.
hi there , you do have a very good point .So glad you stopped in and watched a while .Best to everyone and thank you john
Exactly! With age, sometimes complacency...😢
There is a reason why workers comp/OSHA made it a requirement to have safety cages and operator booths with plexiglass protection on these head rig/carriage mills! You might say these are real men but accidents happened all time injuring men very badly quite regularly!
A piece of metal in the log can shatter the blade sending high speed chunks of blade flying! Absolutely killing everyone in its path!
Looks like a cool old Jeep in the back there!!
I was waiting for something catostrophic, don't think that was near fatal, but honestly, GLAD IT WASN'T!
hi there yes some nice old wore out jeeps . got rid of a few in the last couple of years , down sizing , i just nicked one dog , thought i was going to mis it but . thanks for stopping in john
Worked as a safety engineer for St. Regis, Champion, Gilman, and GP to name a few. I ALWAYS CRINGE WHEN I SEE PEOPLE TRYING TO GET IN A HURRY OR GET CARELESS. I HAVE SEEN SOME HORRIFIC ACCIDENTS. REMBER. SAFETY NEVER SLEEPS!. STAY SAFE!!! BTW, I WOULD HAVE WRITTEN YOU UP FOR SEVERAL INFRACTIONS. YOU DON'T GET SECOND CHANCES.
hi how would you do what i do differently . whats the plan . thanks for stopping by john
I've been around these mills as a helper and of course I been around many a tool. Love these old saws. We have a tendency to become complacent when we do a thing for a long time and become good at it. Consider your mishap a reminder to self correct bad habits we learned due to over confidence and wanting to be efficient. Suggestion: If you wish to continue with reaching out and pulling the board away from the blade after its cut, consider using your other hand (your left). Reason: it is further away from the blade and you'll be reaching toward the blade straight on or perpendicular to the blade. The left arm; as you stood, naturally the elbow bends out away from the blade and unlike the right arm not toward the cutting path of the blade. Be safe. Work smart and keep cutting - lumber.
thank you for the kind comment john
i just tried that after reading your comment . felt to uneasy had me crossed and nothing to hold on to , but a good thought thanks john
I've got to admit John, you re a master at making sawdust. Fun at the sawmill.
hi there sawdust i can make john
Reminds me of the ole Burger King TV commercials during the Vietnam war "It takes a hook and a nub to handle a Whopper".
hi there thanks for dropping in john
Well you and Mark and ... Out of the woods.. All three of y'all does a outstanding job of explaining what you are doing. I bought logs for a small sawmill that cut rail road ties. I watched them some so I enjoy what you do.
hi there this was a tie mill john
@@fricknjeep at one time we used 10 tree length loads a day average or more. Three full time logging crews.
I then had a friend who might cut a load a week. I just enjoy seeing a good sawer.
Seen a few bad accidents over the years. This one made me pucker. Glad you were paying attention.
hi there just touched the side ,i was watching it but it was closer than my eye could see , everything was ok ,thanks for stopping in john
I am 84 and finding I still get stupid round machinery like saws n powersaws. GrACE OF GOD! CHEERS
hi there just be as good as you feel ok with , thanks for dropping in john
I'm glad you are alright. I sure love watching you sawyers at work. I'm not there yet, but one of these days.
Im not a saw mill guy, but every time I saw you reach forward to roll the fresh cut onto its side I winced. That blade is unforgiving!!
hi there it is a camera angle thing , thanks john
I don’t believe this man should be anywhere near a saw mill..
hi there thanks for the support,and stopping by john
That's an amazing setup and nice looking lumber, but there's a heckuva lot that can go wrong there with exposed moving parts. I grew up on a farm and we had a lot of machinery that was dangerous...I did a lot of things I shouldn't have, but no way I'd take a chance milling lumber here. If it works for you, though, more power to ya!
hi there i understand thanks john
Every time you reached for that wood to pull it off and stack it I almost couldn’t look because I thought you were going to cut off an arm or something 😳 Be careful man!!!!
hi there the camera makes it look worse than it really is ,thanks for dropping in john
The most garish of action and horror movies have never made me flinch, hate the nanny state, but a few seconds of this had me squealing. That spinning blade is straight out a Video Nasty!
@@tonybrown9875 . don't really how to answer to your comment but glad you stopped by john
@@fricknjeep yea man. You may also need a riving knife. And I will have to agree with the other folks that your hand was a bit to close. You had me. Very scared whenever that board was right up against the saw. You may need a different method to remove wood.
@@spongeorpete7289 hi there would like to have a Eddie . The camera makes look worse then it is . just think there are more people cut with a kitchen knife then a saw blade .thanks for stopping by john
Never been so nervous watching a video.
hi it is the camera angle thanks john
I thought the comments were silly, had it going in background, glanced over to see him reaching right at the blade to pull a board away and pull it towards him where it could get kicked by the blade. Osha didn't exist when these mills were standard and it shows
And then pulling with his back to the blade, so you can't see if the board moves into the path of the blade... was waiting for it every time.
All the folks saying "Oooo, so dangerous!" He's touching the blade where it's smooth, no teeth. I've pulled thousands of board feet of lumber off a mill like this....he's not doing anything out of the ordinary. Growin' up in the country, every other farm had a mill just like that all up & down the Appalachians, and every kid learned to run 'em. We couldn't run to Home Depot every time we needed boards to fix the hog pen. If y'all had been born 200 years ago the industrial revolution would have never happened.
hi there thank you so much . this is the difference from all the commenters that have never been around a sawmill . have you read some of the comments . the one that made me laugh was you should lower the blade for shorter logs . it is sure nice to here from a sawyer thanks john
just read your comment again cause i liked it so much thanks again john
@@fricknjeep how the heck are you supposed to lower the blade on a 100 year old mill?
@@wrench6122 hi there that was another person that didn't know anything about sawmills and looked at like a table saw . thanks john
@@fricknjeep watch "AMISH SAWMILL!!!" by "That Chipper Guy" these guys are super fast!
That saw is pure nightmare fuel
I'm no expert but that whole setup looks like an accident waiting to happen.
Like you said, you’re no expert! Stfu.
@@KenSilvers You sound a little triggered the karen jay calm down to a panic.
This was when men were men, not soy boy's. And before OSHA.
@@KenSilvers and you are' please explain....
@@crashland5711 And when they died like flies from easily preventable accidents, due to not having proper regulations and protections. But hey! You're a smart, manly, man's man? Why don't y'all head on over to Somalia, where there's no annoying gubbermint to tell you how to live your life.
That may be the most stupidly dangerous woodworking machine i have ever seen in my entire life!!!
hi how do you think you got lumber .Glad you liked them and thanks for dropping in and leaving a comment, John
You're lucky to be alive. That's a terrible disregard for safety you are setting as an example to viewers
hi this is the way wood was sawed for years , i am not here to set examples , as for safety answer me a question or 2 . do you drive a car on the roads ? and a road where you know someone was killed , but still drive on that road , and how many people have you known killed on a sawmill . i will be waiting for you answer , thanks for stopping by john
Hello John. I am a Master Carpenter specialising in Georgian and Victorian restoration and have been working safely for 47 years in the industry. I have responsibility for 8 people in my workshop. I agree that woodworking methods and machines in the past were extremely dangerous compared to today's safety standards, but that is no justification to be a Luddite. I have a few machines that are older than your saw and I have upgraded these with 8 second stop electric brakes, suitable guards and forced air extraction.
Your driving analogy is irrelevant to your woodworking scenario. A more accurate question would be, "Have you ever driven down a road completely drunk, disabled the air bags whilst travelling at twice the speed limit "? And the answer is no. I haven't done this because everyone has a duty of care to minimise risk. In your scenario, you had total decision as to whether you took a high-risk strategy, or whether you took the safest route. You chose the former and the outcome was inevitable and predictable.
What is saddest for me is your lack of contrition and absolved liability for safe woodworking practice. You would not be employed in my company as, with that mindset you would pose too high a risk.
@@timheywood4813 hi first of all i would like to thank you for getting back to me . there is a lot to go over here , i kind of feel like you are compairing a shovel with a backhoe or a wheel barrow to a dump truck .to stop a 54-56 blade in seconds would cause a catastrophic failure in another area,the going down the road was a your own level of risk factor acceptance.i kind of get the feeling you have never been that close to a sawmill , the biggest safety tool around equipment is lack of common sense ,attention ,and the other guys lack of it or inexperience . i would like to go on . thank you john
Unfortunately there's not much safe running a ground mill.
I worked with a man running one , he would say , It don't pay much but it will make a man out of ya.
I had no idea a few years after working at that farm sawmill I'd go to work at a production mill learning sawfiling and spend 33 years sawmilling.
I've seen things that made his love tap just that a tap.
Give him credit for being attentive , hearing it before it got worse and shutting it down.
@@sammylacks4937 hi there good story ,thanks for bringing it hear .glad you stopped in , thank you john
15:50 is where the blade hits some metal
YEP I HIT THE DOG . THANKS FOR DROPPING IN JOHN
you have shown us that even the best make mistakes ! Not a big deal ,looking forward to the swedge and file video
hi there its a coming thanks john
It’s kinda scary watching you get so close to the circle saw , looks like you could make a couple of rollers that slowly turn backwards to bring the planks back and maybe some adjustable wedge near the top of board at the other end to flip the plank on its side
thank you john
OK Randy be draw us a picture he’s got a hell of a rig
I've been cutting lumber all my life, I nipped the tips of 3 fingers in 79. And his setup scares the bejeebers out of me. Especially at his age. I know speaking for myself, "I ain't as good as I once was!" Slow down, with blades as big as that you can't afford to be stupid!
thanks john
Me sitting here, scared to death waiting on it. Sure am glad that's all there was was a polishing and not a notch out of the doggie. Yessir, they're tapered, all right. And there ain't but a fuzz between go and NO. Just glad YOU're all right. They're making blades, rings and bits every day but there's just one sawyer John. A little swaging and filing and off goes the short bus motor. Your and Marks motors must be spot on because there's no gagging and sputtering when you light them off. Just ready to GO! GBWYou!
hi there all trade going thanks john
Yeah, the title is quite appropriate. The whole video is surely a near fatal accident. BTW, my name is not john.
Just now found your site, Damn , what a machine , when i was a kid 70 years 77 now there was a sawmill like that one down the road only bigger ? Ever year there was two are three people lost there hands, arms and even got killed . I know , you know every inch of this old girl so be safe will you , i want to see some more of your video's, See Ya Texas
hi there i am a bit late but thanks for stopping by john
I worked at one for 26 year.your about right.
hi there you did alot of hard work .Thanks for stopping in and giving me a watch. Merry Christmas to all . john
This guy is totally unsafe around the blade. Too comfortable.
hi there do you know of anyone hert at a sawmill . but i will bet you drive down a road where lots of people have been killed . have you ever been around a sawmill ? thanks john
@@fricknjeep I've been around lots of equipment and firearms and can recognize when someone is too comfortable. All the best to you sir.
@@HkLY45 thank you john
@@fricknjeep I've been around all manner of machines in my life and have seen some horrific accidents caused by a mere split second lapse in concentration. Probably the one that stays with me the most was a girl operating a 150 ton knuckle press being distracted for a split second and stuck her hand into the tooling as the cycle initiated. A few people around her lost their lunch and her entire hand was crushed paper thin.
@@garybaris139 sad story thanks john
dang, took me this long to figure out that the accident was nearly fatal to the saw, not necessarily the operator . . . .
Yeah, I was hoping to see a 2x4 kick back and come within a inch of ripping his head off!
As a person who doesn’t understand why this is a near fatal - it must be that blade as big as it is could have sent shrapnel into you had the dog or blade or both sheared off at those high speeds?
Glad you’re okay.
I can picture some bureaucrat watching this thinking,” If only I could make a law demanding every wood mill be retrofitted with an automatic sensor that would prevent this…”
I almost couldn’t watch this. Each time the saw would cycle and you reached in there to flip the board over - I kept thinking here it comes.
But there is something satisfying about watching that man and machine do it’s thing.
Cool old saw, it sounds like a tractor running when you started it. does it run off of the tractor?Ive seen these a few times, how old is it? I would however not get my hands near that blade nor jump down off of that saw feed rack like you did with that blade running though, be safe man. Cool video.
hi there this mill is powered by a 471 Detroit and my bigger mill i use a 238Hp 671 Detroit , this mill is around 1930 , thanks for dropping in john
a kickback is the most dangerous risk -more so than getting hands near the smooth part of the blade
lovely piece of kit though -the speed it was cutting at is amazing
hi there thanks for stopping in john
I am thinking about getting myself a sawmill. Very nice Y’all.
thanks john
Hit EM Bad. I was in a mill very similar to this.. Belt drive and leather laced belts. 1978 - I got to the mill - a week after this happened. Sawyer pulled a log on the deck, He set the carriage to pull the first cut. What no one knew - is a steel bullet was hidden in the tree. I think it was a 60 or 72 inch saw. About half way thru the first cut - The was a roar out of the saw blade - and the strong-backs where broken out of the saw - and they fired the teeth into the roof - over the carriage in a line - and the teeth sounded like shots out of a firearm, as the embedded in a line - into the roof..
In my mind - there is a canterman, to roll the logs on the carriage. A carriage rider - dog-man - set the dogs when needed - The sawyer controlled the carriage. A good sawyer - would never have a carriage not moving. The canterman and dogman - and the sawyer worked as a team. Before they spun the saw - the sawyer briefed them on what they wanted the most of.
The sawyer never touched a board - because getting finger width distance from the saw - was something they - the owner did not approve of.
So - where the board fell - there was trim saw - edgerman - he ran the boards thru a gang saw - and made boards.
A Pilot - was on the edge of this stickering and piling everything - 12x12, 14x14 - 16x16. 4x24x32 ft - Wet - Hemlock.
I was that guy for 2 summers.
I love the old time rigs.
hi there nice story i have hit a lot of bullets . all lead i guess that may have been steel , thats one of the reasons they went to a double circle blade . the off bearer is the most important person at the mill thanks for the story . was any one hurt thanks john
I just wanted him to switch that bland rotation off whilst making the adjustments, it sent shivers down my spine.
We all paid, my friend. What's important, is that how we learn from it.
hi there thats for stopping in john
No worries. There is no mistakes, only lessons. 💪🏽
hi there i sure do get alot of lessons , thanks for dropping in john
We need more old school everything these days. Nice video.
hi there glad you came along , not many crafts thought in schools anymore , your right , thanks for stopping in john
Gave me the creeps watching him put his hand so close to the blade when he pulled the cut board away.
hi there it is the camera angle , kind of like holding a fish you just cough out in front of you to make it look bigger .So glad you dropped in and gave it a watch and also left a comment , thank you john
Would could think that a huge rotating blade without any safety measures could be dangerous.
hi there well they are ,that is why you need to be careful . thanks for dropping in john
This guy is driving me nuts being so care free
hi there this is the way logs were turned to lumber for over 100 years , it is safer than a knife on a cutting board in a kitchen . it just looks scary .thanks for stopping in , john
You are good at feeding your mill stuff happens glad your a pro
Thx for the movie as always
thanks john
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
thanks for stopping by john
The drawback of complacency and trying to get that last 1/4” of board cut. I felt his surprise! Never push your luck! There should be a deadman kind of setup so if you get hung up the feed or blade stops feeding.
Experience is what you get right after you needed it. (Let that one sink in a little.)
hi there i know what you mean . thanks john
Our woodworking shop had a sign over the enormous chop saw that showed a hand missing three fingers. The caption read "Awarded for not replacing a guard." Quite a few old timers in that shop were missing bits. I learned early on never to rush around machines and taught it to all the apprentices.
@@lunhil12 hi there good story john
That diesel engine sounds like a two-stroke.
hi there good ear 4-71 . glad you stopped by john
That crappy male log turned out some decent siding after all. You gave that dog a little kiss. That'll be a good wake up call. Keeps a guy on his toes!!
hi there glad it was just a kiss thanks john
My grandpa lost his left hand in a saw mill like that in the 60's.
Did he ever find it ?
Right.
Man this guy has balls of steel 😅
hi there just not a wimp , thanks for dropping in john
Just caught your video. I admire a man that can admit he made a mistake especially when he can still blame it on the sun. 😂. New sub. Looking forward to catching more videos. Honestly glad to see you were not injured.
hi there . pushed my luck a bit to far , there are over 1400 videos ,may find some that interest you . a bit of everything .So glad you stopped in ,best to all thanks john
not what I expected. I was waiting for a whole cut being thrown due to the nonchalant drag past the back of the saw
Man there is no way I would get near that thing. That's a death machine.
hi there well i understand what you are saying but 2 or 3 things , do you know of someone hurt on a sawmill ? do you go to work or drive down a road that people were killed on ? have you ever cut your self with a kitchen knife ? you have to be careful in every part of daily life . thanks for stopping by john
You ever happen to notice how when you make a cut the material all moves away from you AND the blade at the end of the pass. And how you have to stand back as far from the blade as possible AND how hard it is to REVERSE the work and product flow to drag the boards the mill PULLS AWAY FROM YOU LIKE SOMEBODY THAT BUILT THE SAWMILL THOUGHT LETTING YOU TRY TO SEND THE CARRIAGE AWAY FROM YOU BY PULLING A LEVER AND BRINGING IT BACK PAST YOU WITH A PULL AND KEEPING ALL CONTROLS WHERE THEY KEEP YOU BACK FROM THE BLADE MIGHT KEEP YOU FROM DUMB SHIT LIKE TRYING TO PULL THE PRODUCT BACK INTO HARMS WAY BY HAND AND REACHING INTO THE DEATH ZONE BAREHANDED AND EVEN STICKING FOREIGN OBJECTS THAT LOOK TO BE STEEL RIGHT INTO KERF - THE "SLOT" BETWEEN BLADE AND BOARD - TRYING TO "FLOP" A STANDING BOARD BACK AWAY FROM THE BLADE SO YOU CAN LITERALLY HANDLE IT FROM THERE AND AGAIN SEND IT OUT THE FRONT TO CUT IT WAY CLEAR OF THE SAW AND AUTOMATICALLY WITH A SIMPLE HAND PULL BUT "GO IN AFTER" THE PRODUCT PLANK FROM BEHIND AND BY HAND PULL IT AND STACK IT ON THE LOG END OF YOUR OPERATION?
PROBABLY NOT. AND IT'S NOT LIKE YOUR INSISTENCE ON HANDLING THE RAW MATERIAL AND PRODUCT AS MANY TIMES AS POSSIBLE WHILE "MULTITASKING" AND "SORTING" THE PLANKS RIGHT OUT OF - AND IN BOTH DIRECTIONS - THE MILL ITSELF IN A MANNER THAT RESULTS IN THE CARRIAGE MOVING LESS MATERIAL AND PRODUCT "BACK AND FORTH" TO GET THEM "IN AND OUT"?
IT'S NO WONDER YOU'VE GOT SUCH A CLUSTERFUCK OF A "LUMBERYARD" THERE AND HAVE ASH GETTING MILDEWED AND RANDOM PILES OF SHIT EVERYWHERE AND APPARENTLY SO MUCH FREE TIME AND EXCESS ENERGY AND BLADE, BELTS, FUEL AND MONEY TO BURN YOU USE YOUR SAWMILL TO MAKE PINE LOGS INTO PINE SQUARES AND A HOLE PILE OF THEM AS YOU TRY TO "GET SOMETHING" OUT OF PINE LOGS THAT WILL STILL BE PINE PLANKS AND ROUGH SAWN AND WITH ZERO CHANCE OF USING A SAWMILL AS A "SURFACE PLANER" SUCCESSFULLY TO "GET" 1-BY PINE LUMBER OUT OF "TIMBER" AND WHEN REALITY FINALLY SINKS IN AND YOU REALIZE YOUR "PRODUCTION" ENDED UP BEING NEGATIVE "BOARD FEET" YOUR "LEMONS OUT OF LEMONADE" (I'LL PRETEND IT WAS LIFE THAT GAVE YOU THE PULPWOOD PINE AND "SAWMILL" SET UP FOR "RIPPING" LOGS INTO 2-BYS AND EVEN 3-BYS (BRIDGE PLANKS) AND NOT REMOTELY INTENDED TO TURN OUT EVEN UTILITY GRADE BOARDS ALL BY ITSELF WITHOUT A REAL "MILL" IN SITE AND CERTAINLY A "SINO" (SAWYER IN NAME ONLY" BEHIND THE CONTROLS WHEN HE'S NOT BETWEEN THE CONTROLS AND THE BLADE TRYING TO "PILE" THE SHIT HE'S TURNING BACK WHERE IT CAME FROM IN THE "RAW MATERIAL" AREA AND "STACK" THE OCCASIONAL "PALLET PINE" PLANK THE "MILL" MANAGES TO "GET" EVERY FEW PASSES WHEN THE PLANETS ALIGN, THE BELTS BITE, THE BLADE BENDS LESS, THE CARRIAGE STAYS BEHIND THE HORSE, THE TEETH THAT "NEED SHARPENED" (YOU CAN "SIT THERE" AND SHARPEN SAW TEETH UNTIL THEY SCARE VELOCIRAPTORS TO DEATH BUT UNTIL YOU LEARN HOW TO SET TEETH AND DO IT CORRECTLY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY STOP USING A BUZZ SAW BLADE FOR "MILLING" YOU'LL STILL BE THE "SURPRISE SAWYER" WONDERING WHEN THAT "INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY" IS GOING TO FIND SOME "LOGS" IT "LIKES" SO YOU CAN START STACKING SOME COLD CASH INSTEAD OF TURNING OUT BETTER FUNGUS THAN ASH.
hi there i sure am sad you wrote this , i have no idea if you really know anything about what you are writing about . I am going to leave it posted because no one would ever believe or understand all the stuff you have just wrote , also with 270 subs and 2 videos you obviously are a lot better at being a critic then content creator ,i also noticed at your channel you only have one shot that hit the red .thanks for dropping in john
My friend has a mill like that, I think he had some guard that hit the blade, shit came loose and peeled half his face back past his ear, he lived. He got right back on the horse, also made some improvements
The teeth on the blade are made to change out. Sometimes they decide for themselves to fly away.
That sure is faster than a band saw mill but a much bigger kerf! You need a helper on the back of that saw to pull the wood away after the cut- pull it away from the blade!
hi there i couldn't agree with you more . Eddies don't fall out of trees and kids now days don't go out side thanks john
Be careful climbing around on those 4x4’s, John! Thanks for another fun video 👍😀
hi there only exercise i get thanks john
Christ ! A simple 2ft stick can do what your fingers do. Cmon man.
hi i use one time to time , thanks for dropping in john
I have so much anxiety watching this video...
hi it is just the camera angle , thanks john
I can only imagine the mess your property is ! Your complacency in the extremely dangerous situation you are in tells me you've been extremely lucky, luck is bound to run out, just like cowboy pilots
I'm seven metric minutes in, and all I can say right now is, that blade doesn't need to be spinning while you plant the next cut.... Then you opened the throttle
hi there well although that sounds like a good thing to do , you really dont understand a sawmill , thanks for stopping in , john
One thing i learne is never put your fingers close to the blade
hi there i am a bit late but thanks for stopping by john
Very nice video...be careful man. Reaching in close to the blade like that is making me nervous. You have a beautiful mill there..I love it.
hi there the camera makes it look to close . have you seen the other mill . thanks for stopping by john
@@fricknjeep no I haven't 🤔
@@williamturkewitschturkewit1549 hi when you have a bit of time go to same older videos john
@@fricknjeep ok I will
When you hit a dog do you have to call the SPCA?
hi there i am a bit late but thanks for stopping by john
Sawmill accidents are seldom trivial.
hi there i think you are right , thanks for stopping in john
That sound like a Detroit nice beautiful sound , you need to be smarter, thank praise Jesus grace Christ grace , BigAl California.
thanks for stopping by john
Saw runs towards the good side when corners are knocked off one side or most of them. Its like front brakes on car if one stopped working it would pull to the side that is.
Most would believe knocking entire tooth out would make saw mark cant and / or board but no. If a corner is missing even one tooth it is pulled to the good side and thats what will mark.
Retired cabinet here. Once he hit the dog the safe thing is to stop and check the blade for damage. A damaged blade could cause more accidents. Also you can hear how the motor is lagging after the hit because it is ruined. Always listen to your machines. They tell you how they are working!
hi there that was hardly a nick , that isnt a band mill , and the motor doesnt care a bit , thanks for stopping in john
John, what thickness were you cutting these boards?
hi there a strong 1 inch 1-1/16 . i did put the 2 shims in the back back in . john
My dad had one of these mills, until it burned in the 70's. Wish I still had it with the price of wood now.
yes thanks john
That’s why I always dreaded that last close cut when the dogs are a fraction away from the saw. I never hit a dog but the worst was a surprise porcelain fence insulator - ruined all 44 bits. I tried to re swage them but they were never worth much after that.
hi there they are the top of the worse . this wasn't to bad john
Been There Done That. . . Porcelain Insulators just Grind Every Tooth Down to a Stump. The old Glass Insulators aren't any better. I've Nicked the dogs a couple times (as did the Sawyer Before Me and the one before him) but got by it quick enough to just knock the corner off of one side of a Couple Teeth. Nails generally take out more teeth than that depending on what angle you hit them at.
@@oldSawyer been there on all of that great story thanks john
Sitting in my chair, I'm as close to that machine as I care to be.
good on ya for showing an honest review. good thing they's replacable bits. what's your sawdust handling system like? Used to be a partner on a headsaw outfit...man the sawdust piled up quick
hi there didnt hit them hard enought to need changing not as good as i would like , thanks for stopping in john
A minor miracle that he has a right arm. Resaw to 1/2 in and save the board. Should not have saw running during set up.
What are u thinking? Ive been working saws of all kinds for the last 45 years. I wouldent even start that thing up. 1 slip and its over.
hi there tell me about your saw mills , i did see a single sawmill on your channel .glad you stopped in , thank you john
That was one of those gosh darn moments when you hit the dog.
hi that puts it mildly thanks john
I guess I missed the near fatal accident! I'd love to have a saw mill, old or new!
hi there i hit the dog . i have 2 friends that hit the dogs this year , with were fatal to the blades . 3000. per blade times 2 . thanks for stopping in john
@@fricknjeep Well dang, I thought I was gonna see it take an arm or a leg off not a dog! Oh well, it got me to subscribe to your channel anyway! Thumbs up and happy sawing!
He is doing what we are use to. Never tried it with no help.
hi there i am a bit late but thanks for stopping by john
Hi Man, you scared the living crap out of me watching you reach in and grabbing the lumber away from the blade. Thank goodness you only killed the dog and didn't saw your fingers off. At least use a stick to tip the boards away from the blade.
You have a really nice sounding engine running the mill. What kind is it??
Take care and be careful my friend!!
Logger Al
hi there 471 detriot on this mill 671 on the other . all mills are Frick . thanks john
Do you take the saw bits out to sharpen?
hi there no just file them in place . there is a video on it . thanks john
The whole setup is a death trap, it will kill you fool.
hi there i am a bit late but thanks for stopping by john
This isn't death trap. It's not going to kill him unless he lets his guard down and lets it kill him.
I have cut wood for 40 years doing firewood. Back in the 90s I saw a guy whack a leg at the calf where it joins the abdomin clean off. The loader operator was knocking down trees I heard a faint oh over the noise then I saw the dozer operator his eyes lunged out of his head he said top of his lungs H---y S*** Tourniquet that s-- O- a B--- he was telling the other guy cutting had a shirt he tied deathgrip tight around the leg then yelled CALL 911 911. It is a very memorable unforgettable experience to see someone's body one place and their leg lying in the woods. The adrenaline and the tourniquet saved his life. You don't forget seeing in person a near fatal accident like that. That was AWFUL. Ole Bubba cut His leg off.
hi there sad question was that a chain saw or a sawmill ?thanks john
CHAINSAW!
Like the old Jeep in the background
Glad it was just a nicked blade/dog. I was cringing waiting for some semi catastrophic, near fatal accident. Glad there wasn't one!!! STAY SAFE!!!
hi there did you see the blade that hit the dog hard . took out the blade in a 1/2 second . john
Thank you for the video.I worry about hitting the third dog.Do you do any good selling your lumber on Craigslist?
just barely got to give it away 50 cents board foot john
by the look you cut more than you sell
wants a good square up
@@fricknjeep …50 cent the board foot??? Surely wish you lived closer… I’d be a constant customer.
@@ernestgalvan9037 hi there it is sad but that is how it is thanks for stopping by john
did you dull the blade or sharpen the dog ?
funny thing is that when you get it back up and running, it will cut faster, cooler and straighter.
hi there already sawed with it not quite as nice . seams to throw a bit more dust up thanks john
I was having issues the whole time that death wheel was spinning, was almost unbearable to watch
hi there it is the way it has been done for over 100 years , thanks for dropping in john
Did something happen? I didn’t see it? Where is it.
OUCH !! I hate it when that happens !! Good thing ya just bumped it and caught it quick … but no matter, at that time speed you’re gonna bugger up something if you hit metal of any kind. Well… except gold.
hi there always glad when you stop by john