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@@meinkamph5327 I never taught anyone that "not having the blade high enough" will cause kickback. Neither am I now saying that not cutting all the way through causes kickback. I am saying that not properly supporting the workpiece so that it twists during the cut can cause the blade to pinch in the kerf, no matter how high it is, and THAT can cause kickback.
I'm glad someone like you also talks about safety. I'm planning to buy myself a table saw and your videos just shows how to properly use these tools and the techniques are only a bonus at that point.
Love your videos and keep us hobbyist educated. 👍
Do you have a video that demonstrates the same kind of cuts that were shown in the video done safely?
I got so anxious I couldn't even finish the video. He's grabbing the opposite side of the work piece with his fingers in a place he cant see!!! Then dragging his hand back over the blade. On one of those cuts his back hand wasn't nearly high enough. He almost lost a finger even without kick-back. Woah.
Proof that Trump will win the presidency in 2024.
Your understanding of the likely circumstances in which this worker finds himself shows what a decent human being you really are. Thank you for using your platform to educate, not denigrate.
"Table saw tricks" are three words that should never be grouped together.
Real
Please don’t EVER apologize for touting safety. I ran a construction business for over 40 years and constantly hammered tool safety into my employees. Any accident I had had myself or had heard about from others became instructional for my crew. Please continue to teach us.
I taught outdoor equipment operation at a Community college. Safety was the constant theme to my lessons, with videos and true stories. A graduate visited me some years after graduation to thank me for emphasizing wearing steel toe boots. She had a workplace incident with a power mower, and the steel toe in the boot saved her foot. Makes it worthwhile when you hear that.
@@tomrogers9467 yeah it's one of those things where unfortunately it's really difficult to truly conceive until it happens to you or right next to you.
I've never had a power accident thank God. I'm exceedingly careful generally. But I've used knives my entire life even as a young child. Never had a serious cut because the minor ones bugged me so much.
Whelp. I got careless and foolish one Xmas night opening a stubborn plastic tie, and almost severed my hand and could have died were I of weaker constitution 😆
Still gives me chills, and I am back to being exceedingly careful, even with knives which I'm confident around.
I still have that knife, and you can see from the dried tissue how deep it went 😬😬😬 my bone stopped it thankfully 🤣🤦♂️
All it takes is a split second lapse to get hurt, and safe work habits reduce how likely that split second lapse will be an injury or the severity of the injury
I saw it less as apologizing for safety and more as relating to those who would otherwise skip a safety video. This channel is something we choose to watch, not a mandatory class.
He and most of us, have absolutely no respect for how FAST his hand could’ve pulled into the blade. NEVER think you can be “quick enough” to overcome a kick back, suck-in, slip, tip or work piece twist or collapse. NO you won’t be able to react quick enough. Anyone who’s worked with explosives knows what I mean.
It’s been almost a year since I told myself, “it’s just one cut, I don’t need to replace my broken push stick”. It’s been almost a year since I’ve had 10 complete fingers. I was lucky that I still have 9.66 fingers but I tell you, you never know how important that last digit of your dominate hand middle finger is until it isn’t there anymore. Needless to say the first thing I made once I was able to get back in the shop was a big stack of push sticks.
Appreciate you sharing a real story of how a small lapse can have big consequences. I always treat stories on the internet with a dash of skepticism, but I clicked over to your channel and sure enough that middle guy got a bad haircut. Every now and then at work I feel like someone is getting upset at me for the extra 5-10 seconds it takes for me to grab my push stick, but that's a trade that I can make with confidence.
@@Anytus2007 “a bad haircut”? I kinda dig that description of it. If my story of my stupid decision can make someone think twice maybe that bad haircut has a silver lining.
Robert, first of all, thank you for sharing that story. I know how sometimes even recollecting of a painful experience can bring the pain back.
Secondly, I checked out your channel. I expected woodworking videos, but what I found was way more wholesome! The food, the soaps, the hand made animal toys, all just lovely. And the beard is awesome, reminds me so much of my dad, another lovely wholesome man.
Thank you.
I had gotten the little finger of my left hand caught in my dog's leash ring when she lunged away from me- breaking the flexor tendon. A visit to a walk-in clinic for some bad doctoring and - on the following day- a sizable hospital's trauma center for more bad doctoring ( what trauma center has no orthopedic specialist on hand?) had me waiting three weeks to see a surgeon, who told me it was too late to perform the reattachment and expect good results.
I still have the finger but it's mostly useless. When you lose the use of just one finger it's very personal; it affects me every day.
@@paullogieri248 I was lucky enough to have a great bunch of medical staff at William Beaumont Hospital in Royal Oak Michigan. They got to me quickly and had the small amputation done within a few hours. I only had to go see the orthopedic surgeon for a check up a couple of weeks later and besides some minor lingering pain and constantly discovering things that made the tip of that finger important, I have recovered quite well. I’m sorry to hear your story, it sounds painful on multiple levels. Take care.
I've been using a table saw for about five decades now and I could not help but cringe while watching the video. I'm a big proponent of being able to count to ten on my fingers when I'm done sawing my projects. Great video thumbs up.
You can thank your safe practices for being able to give this video a thumbs up.
I mean, you can lose a digit and a half and still count to ten on one hand. Lose your thumb, though, and you're s.o.l.
Don't worry. That sweatshop is easily able to find new workers when fingers get removed.
I am with you Craig.
This scares the hell out of me!
Yeah, I don't have your experience but that video made me cringe to a point of "Oh my... no.. I don't wish to see this..." . I love horror movies, but don't need to see similar stuff in RL :( .
That guy's pinky finger came SO DAMN CLOSE to the saw blade in his second cut! Of course it did, he can't see the position of his fingers relative to the blade. This is so dangerous. I really appreciate the empathy with which you consider the person himself! Such a better approach to thinking about this, rather than blaming him for being stupid
I saw that too, and just that one thing alone was enough to trigger the nopes. It's mind-boggling that there were SO many other major safety issues that that one didn't even make the cut (pun intended) for a specific mention in the video.
What's the harm in blaming stupid people for being stupid? If he has time to set up a camera, film, edit, and run a channel, he has time for safety. He's an idiot, like it or not. Stop being a bleeding heart. Why is not offending people the most important thing in the world? Maybe if someone actually called him an idiot, he'd think about his STUPID PRACTICES. I'd rather be called a MEAN NAME than lose a finger.
I know nothing about table saws and this looks like the most dangerous stupidity I have ever seen that isn't fractal wood burning.
@@hariman7727 All you need to know about table saws 8s the blade is sharp and has no conscience. It'll cut whatever you put 8n front of it either intentionally or not.
The thought of not knowing where you're bloody fingers are when using any saw is horrific. I regularly use a bandsaw and I can't imagine effectively looking away whilst using it.
The guy who taught me to ride a dirt bike 50 years ago gave me some advice that I have remembered all my life. He told me "When you think you can ride this thing, that's when you will get hurt". I have applied that advice to everything whether it is using power tools or driving a car or shooting a gun. It has served me well.
A smart man teaching a smart man. I think I'll carry this lesson too.
25 years ago, I stood on the side of my table saw and slid a piece forward with the blade. I did just fine for 8 or so cuts. The ninth one went wrong. The blade launched that piece of wood out of my garage, across the street, and almost into my neighbor's house. At the same time, it pulled my thumb over the blade. It was pure terror seeing my thumb bleeding and mangled but still attached. I lived alone so I had to bandage it myself. None of my friends were home to drive me to the hospital. Fortunately, the mangled thumb was just surface damage; no nerves or bone damage. I have my thumb and a scar to remind me not to be stupid. It could have been so much worse. I treat my table saw with respect, and I appreciate all the safety videos that help me avoid other actions that could result in even worse disasters. I got lucky.
Table saws scare the hell out of me. I've never used one and so far never intend to do so. But the woodwork I do doesn't really need one. Also don't have the space which I suppose is a good excuse to never set foot near one. Mostly use a bandsaw which of course isn't directly comparable but it does the job I need. But still as you point out, respect of tools is vital, even hand tools.
What's sad about these working conditions is that repeated work like that could be performed just as quickly, much more accurately, and completely safely with a jig.
And an inexpensive, quickly put-together jig at that. Much less fuss than flying digits would generate, regardless of the setting.
The mentality of the owners is replacing injured workers is cheaper and easier than implementing safety devices. It was the same in the west till the rise of government safety regulations and liability laws.
@@richardh6964 It wasn't just owners, I've got photos of my great-grandfather in his wood shop wearing a tie amongst a bunch of belts and flywheels. Sure, the tie was tucked in, but every day he worked like that he was moments from being strangled by his tie.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade, writes _"It wasn't just owners, I've got photos of my great-grandfather in his wood shop wearing a tie amongst a bunch of belts and flywheels."_
I think that's one of the reasons they invented clip-on ties…
@@fred_derf I'm sure some old-timers would rather be dead than unable to wear a tie while using a bandsaw.
I really appreciate how you're aware and caring enough to notice that this is probably someone working for far too little in unsafe conditions somewhere in Asia. The easy thing would be to say he's an idiot. But you not only taught us about safety but also demonstrated empathy towards a stranger on the other side of the planet. It shows great character.
So this kind of thing doesn't happen in America too?
Judging by the scrungy set up, the flip-flops and the overall run-down look of the place? Yeah, it's either Asia or South America.
How do I know? Witnessed too many "He did this" spam videos on Fcbk pages. And that's no joke.
I don't think Asia is likely. Reason: that pinky looks a lot like he has dupuytrens contracture. It's a genetic condition extremely rare in Asians and much more common among ppl of northern European descent. I'm guessing some poorer part of Europe is where this shot.
We're going out of our way to make a lot of assumptions about this dude's circumstances. If he has a few extra seconds to set up a camera and run a youtube channel, he has time for safety. So calling him an idiot isn't only the easy thing to do, it's the right thing to do..
@@pepwaverley2185 So he has time to shoot a video and run an instructional channel, but no time for safety? Go be a bleeding heart elsewhere.
Being safe and the project taking twice as long is better than being dead and the project never getting done.
Thank you so much for this - I saw the video yesterday, was horrified enough to shout "No!" at my screen but felt powerless to respond. You have the platform to do so and should be applauded for responding with the detail that explains why this video short was so bad. I am sure that you will have saved a lot of fingers.
Me too. I literally shuddered.
When I was young, I had an accident where I seriously cut my hand and it took three surgeries to repair. I still have limited mobility in one finger. As a result, I cringe when I see these types of behaviors and I'm much more conscious of safety. I walked out of a job on the first day when I discovered that a piece of safety equipment, that was supposed to keep my hands from being sliced off, had been removed for the sake of efficiency. I have a great deal of respect for how you treat safety.
Good on you
Agreed 100%!
I was injured because of someone else’s negligence - it took 7 years to recover including the litigation. I was fortunate that I had reserve funds to cover the loss of income during recovery. I can hop, skip and jump - but getting there took 5 hours of therapy everyday over a 5 year period. I still exercise 1-2 hours a day. Going to the gym is nice if the choice is optional.
I am sorry to hear Jim. Thanks for sharing! Stay safe.
Hands are IMPORTANT. You can't do a g** d*** thing without them. There might be a few "inspiring" individuals who have found their ways to adapt... BUT I PROMISE YOU, there's nothing more humiliating than the first time you have to call out of the bathroom for help wiping your own ass because YOU CAN'T...
...AND that's just the beginnings of the hell after screwing around with safety. ;o)
James, please don't stop the safety videos! Why? Well, selfishly I watch every single one of your safety videos-Why? Because I am completely new to this woodworking hobby/craft (yep, retired and wanted to learn, create, and give cool stuff to friends) and since I am new I haven't had a safety course/lecture since high school metal and wood shop classes. And I can tell you that I didn't pay attention then because I was 'too cool' (or just stupid, it's up for debate). I very much enjoy your delivery, dry sense of humor, and the way in which you teach. Please, please, please keep it up! Me and all my digits thank you tremendously!!!
This video should be shown to kids in woodworking class. Not sure if schools still have woodworking classes anymore but this would be great for them if they did.
I still teach Woodworking to Middle and High School kids.
Your safety videos were EXTREMELY important to me when I first started woodworking.
I recognized the risks of the hobby, and my responsibility to educate myself.
I, and my fingers, thank you.
I’ll back that up one hundred percent.
When I started and was buying my tools I watched your safety videos for each tool before I used them, as well as your instructional ones.
I can tell you for a fact that remembering what you said has twice saved me from a potential bad injury.
I still watch your safety videos and enjoy them when you put them out.
A big ten fingered thank you wave.
I watch a lot of " Table saw Tips", and I cringe when I watch most of them. In high school I lost the tip of my left middle finger from a kid "playing around"! Since then, I have operated a table saw for 50 plus years and VERY happy to saw I still have the nine and seven eights' fingers I left school with. 😁
Thank you for all your "safety videos"!
If you're looking for tips on tik tok or CZcams shorts, you should stop whatever hobby you're doing and take some classes or find a professional to teach you.
Just a PSA for everybody else reading.
@The Guns N' Glory Show and in high school the person voted "most likely to win a Darwin award" is...
I love the safety videos, they’re extremely important, I’m only 20 and they’ve helped me learn a ton, it seems like most of the people who don’t like them are the same people who will get complacent and cut their fingers off
20 gang😈😤💯
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Complacency happens to ALL of us. I am obsessively careful about electricity and I myself got complacent and forgot to unplug a mains powered drill while repairing the switch inside. I was lucky I just got a bit of a zap on my fingertip and didn't complete a circuit or become path to ground.
Indeed Joey! 👍
My original teacher/boss in carpentry was in his mid 50's when he cut his thumb right down the middle on his tablesaw. He was a very skilled carpenter. He however had a couple flaws that likely played a part in that incident. He had a very high opinion of his own skill set. And I remember him having a habit of watching it listening to political news while working (whos primary goal is to distract viewers) . Tablesaws, routers, and chopsaws I tend to think of as oppressed poorly paid workers that will rise up and make their move on you as soon as they see an opening. No you should never find yourself in the position or oppressor in real life. But when it comes to those 3 tell yourself whatever you have to that keeps them as clear and present dangers at all times in your mind. Complacency and cockiness. 2 of the worse traits to have when working with power tools. Only those 2 things would have you relaxing the rules or making an exception for yourself cause your just that good. These tools are second nature to you. Hell you could rip down stock while having a phone conversation and an eating an afternoon snack. Yep we'll you sir prob have a revolution coming. And I hope it's televised.
After about 20 years of cabinet making, my tablesaw decided that it wanted to eat 4 of my fingers. I do my best to work safely and sometimes it's just the law of probability. I was lucky to have a gifted surgeon on call at the hospital that was able to reattach everything. Working safely and thoughtfully should be at the front of everyone's mind when using any tools. Keep these videos coming. Maybe some of the more obstinate people will get with it.
Can you tell us a brief detail of how this happened so we can avoid it happening to us??? Thank you
@@jamess7178 Perhaps your resolution for this year should be less of a contrarian. Some of us in the trades like to keep all our digits.
Sawstop is drooling over this video.
The part about level of experience not mattering is so true. My friend's dad has been a farmer since birth, and a good and smart one. More than 65 years of doing that. A few years ago he tried to unjam a piece of equipment without turning it off. Something went awry, and his legs got sucked into it. And he was alone. Without the wherewithal to call an EMT-trained friend on his cell phone, we would have bled out. He knew how stupid it was, and he admits it. Thank God he made it. Still, his subsequent recovery was no easy task. It only takes a single aberration out of thousands or even millions of times doing something, and we're toast.
Experience simply means that you know the risks and you trust in your ability to mitigate them. It doesn't however mean that you're immune from the consequences when the mistake is eventually made.
A man at my childhood church had a similar incident, was out combining and something jammed his header, he forgot to turn it off before clearing it, got both arms caught in the header and had months if not years of medical intervention to mostly recover.
Like a vaccine, experience grants not immunity, only less chance of the worst thing happening
When I was a teenager in a cabinet school the 65 year old teacher cut off his hand on the table saw so I learnt early on that experience means nothing when it comes to safety, and that was on a fancy Altendorf saw with a lot of safety features. I can't even imagine doing all the stupid crap seen on the internet especially on raged equipment.
So true. While experience can lead to wisdom, it can also lead to complacency.
That original video is shocking. It makes me physically uncomfortable to watch. Which I'm actually thankful for. Teaching yourself to feel anxious when something is done improperly goes a long way towards making sure you don't do the dangerous thing. After I started getting into shooting as a hobby, I noticed I would get very anxious when even watching a CZcams video in which people were handling guns unsafely. Like woodworking, it's an activity where a split second of carelessness can have horrible consequences.
Videos like this help me and other new woodworkers build up that safety reflex, so thank you!
Even with that safety sense, there's been a good number of times I've found myself having a near miss and realizing there were risks I hadn't thought about in the moment.
As a woodworker and pilot (who's probably more freaked out about not only loosing body parts but also a career from any stupidity) I really appreciate your down to earth approach to not chastise the guy but use his dangerous approach to educate and shine the light at the larger picture of hybris, safety and work environment and antidotes on how to overcome those dangers. Literally aviation error and threat managemant 101.
As I like to say: "No one is bad enough that they couldn't at least serve as an example for others of what not to do"
Brings back memories. Remember bag the fingers. THEN re-bag in ice. No surgeon wants to work with finger soup.
To the guys credit, what this "technique" lacks in safety, it makes up for in crappy results. And, let's not forget how fast it was. If you're gonna do something poorly or get a life altering injury, you may as well not spend all afternoon doing it.
I saw this a few days ago and it's pretty obvious that what the guy is doing is very unsafe. I seem to remember that it was a sweat shop type of set up and those are pretty much always showing bad practice. Totally agree with you though. 👍
Indeed. The truly awful thing is that the shop would put this out as an example of a cool thing to do.
I had a small very rural medical practice for over 25 years. We had a professional high end wood worker intown. He made a good living at it and sent his pieces worldwide. I never saw him for any work related injuries until one month. As I was suturing his second table saw laceration of that month I asked him; given your injury free past what is going on? I'm worried about a change in neuro status or Muscular or skeletal issues. No ! He bit off more than he could chew in the time he had promised and he was working too late and too fast. I do some amateur wood working. This was a lesson I learned without losing any personal blood or flesh. He finished the pieces on time and I never had to do any repairs on him again.
that video terrifies me. Ive been doing a massive amount of cabinet making this year renovating my home, learning most of this stuff for the first time. I have an appropriate amount of fear and a great amount of care when i use my table saw. Cross cut sled, jigs, push sticks, push paddles, feather boards, etc and ive still had a board kick back into my gut. Scary thing is, it happened so fast i had no idea where my fingers were when the board was ripped out of my hands. I watched my surveillance video and saw how scary it really was. Lesson Learned, table saws are not to be taken lightly.
Oh man, watching the technique in that video makes me nervous. Good on you for the break down. Also, "sitting in the hospital with baggies full of iced meat" is the most apt and horrifying thing I've ever heard in a woodworking video...
That gave me anxiety
Better a "Safety Sally" than a "Just-a-Thumb Jerry"
raised in a farm and we always did our woodwork. something was always off-putting to me in table saws, and my cousins often complained about my hesitation to use them.
then my uncle (who, truth be told, was always praising my care in regards to the saw) got the tip of his index finger cut off in a weird kickback. thank god he managed to avoid most of the saw, but still, the shallow touch was enough to sever the tip of his finger right off. ever since then, my cousins never gave me shit again about the table saw.
funnily enough a few years after that my uncle lost the tip of the index finger in his other hand, but this time because a big calf kicked his knife hand while we were neutering some males.
we call my uncle the Tipless Whisperer.
Guy is working in flip flops too. Wow.
He'll I do that
@@alanmydland5210 You'll stop when you drop something sharp on a your foot or something jabs in the front of the toes.
@@waterbuck I'm a lucky fker
@@alanmydland5210 Everyone who does stupid stuff is lucky, until they aren't.
I’ve not used a table saw much, and when I saw that video for the first time, I thought it was quite clever. I had no idea how dangerous it was. Thanks James for the warning. I had no idea.
#1 Rule of woodworking. Fingers away from the sharp and/or spinning edges of tools. Unless of course you don't value your fingers. Good wood working requires jigs to 1) Protect you 2) Uniform cuts/shapes.
Thanks for replying @ken. I know rule #1. I feel foolish watching it again, even admitting I hadn’t spotted it was dangerous!
My problem with Table saws is that I hardly ever use them. I bought a super cheap one (in every possible sense of the word) 20 years ago. When I started watching Stumpy Nubs safety videos I realised it had zero safety features. So I threw it away. Now I only would only hire & use one in rare circumstances. So jigs are beyond me. As a result, perhaps I am one of those most at risk? The more I learn, the more I realise I don’t know. This pertains to safety more than almost any other area.
@@nigelwylie01 I respect you admitting what you don't know, and it proves why these kind of videos are so important. I see risk being highest at the two ends of a spectrum with inexperience at one end and complacency at the other. The fact you recognize the gaps in your knowledge makes you safer than many people; if "common sense" were really common, we wouldn't use the term almost exclusively when we notice its absence. I also find a lot of videos I see about jigs and sleds to be way too much for the kind of cuts I do on my little, jobsite table saw, but there's often a way to scale the ideas and concepts down to a guide or quick template that will help with better, safer results. Cheers!
@@nigelwylie01 Why would jigs be beyond you? A jig for this task here is quickly and easily done.
@@vorrnth8734 , you may be right for someone working in a workshop, but I mainly work in the open air, in woodland spaces. I’m primarily a green woodworker and I operate in a totally different way. I don’t think in terms of jigs, more hand grips. I’m open to learning though.
I used to replace the Saw-Stop blades and hardware at least once a day in high-school woodshop. 6 classes a day and inevitably someone would get too close and the blade would drop. Saved alot of kids fingertips.
I appreciate your safety videos. You don't just simply say don't do this, you say why so we understand what risks are being taken and the injury that can be caused. I believe that you have saved so many lost fingers through this channel.
As someone who has never been bit by a table saw, I appreciate these kinds of videos.
It's thanks to videos like these that the first (and so far only) time I had kickback I was standing to the side and so it missed me.
@@TheLamer5000 thankful you werent injured, i just did a project a bit ago with my brothers borrowed jobsite table saw and i was so paranoid about kickback and having any body part passing over the blade. i stood to the side, i used a grripper pushblock, even could have used some featherboard attachments. i still felt like i just got away with it not having an accident. it intimidates the hell out of me. im going to make a sled for my circular saw so its the machine moving and the material secured.
He did have on his flip lops. I have seen the workers in bare feet working power tools. As an old tv character from the Detroit area would say "That's Scary!"
Stumpy reminds me of my shop teacher back in the 80's. I love it.
Takes me back to the 1970's, an article in the Australian Police Journal on suspicious and unusual deaths - bloke fell chest first onto his running table saw, no guard or splitter/riving knife. It cut straight through his sternum into his heart, blood and meaty bits everywhere. The Coroner eventually ruled it a 'suicide'.
My grandfather was a cabinet maker in Asia trained by the Japanese. He was one of the first waves in the country to adopt machines, and man it was brutal. So many of his friends, colleagues, and apprentices lost body parts. I still remember the dusty machines in his shop and there were absolutely no safety guards. According to him, jointers are the worst of the worst.
Yeah, the jointer should raise your pucker factor a bit. That machine is a hand eater just waiting to happen
eugh.. even thinking about a jointer accident makes my stomach go all weird
Read your comment just had to reply . I am in total agreement with your grandfather !! I am a cabinet maker who is a cabinet makers son , and the only machine that bit my Dad hard was the jointer , cut one finger tip off . Now I decided to show up the old man and I stuck 6 fingers in the jointer at the same time !! Only the index and ring fingers survived intact . 10 months later the bleeding finally stopped !! Watch that jointer it will bite !!!!
Mad grandad was a Carpenter and had a shop of oldtimer industrial machines. My dad always said that no matter who they were, everybody was afraid of the shaper. That thing had no mercy. You let your gard down with that beast you went to the hospital.
I lost a fingertip in the jointer as well. It’s so easy to lose respect for the machine and then it’s just a matter of time.
The biggest lesson I have learnt over the years is you can make zero mistakes and accidents will still happen. As you said, an unexpected knot or hard grain, power going out mid cut (it's happened to me), or a million other things can go wrong that have nothing to do with skill.
I’m 100% with you. It’s important to remember that there is always risk. It’s what we do about it that is important. I suppose it could be argued that if we spend too much time mitigating risk, we’d never get anything done. But if I spend an extra 5 or 10 minutes to create a safe set up (or even spend a half day to build a safer jig), it’s well worth the effort to decrease the risk.
Dad was a wood shop teacher. He taught me the safe way to use the machines. It doesn't mean that I can look away or be careless. Eyes on the job. No distractions. Use the machine the right way. Any distractions come in, the machine is turned off.
As an apprentice auto mechanic in the early 1970s, we told the old-timers who chided us about wearing safety glasses: "Better go pick out your glass eye now, while you can still see the colors." Even now, I make the kid who mows my lawn wear eye and hearing protection.
Hola! 🖐 I almost did not watch this video expecting the worst. I thought I was going to see digits fling off this guy's hand at every second of his video. I think the only "trick" was how he keeps all his fingers but I call it luck. I do appreciate how you empathize with his world reality and most likely "has to" work under these conditions. I hope someone that watches this video will use this opportunity to learn something and avoids losing a finger, or worse. I almost lost a finger, with a circular saw, and it's so true what you most often hear, "It only takes a second" but you can never get that second back and avoid an accident. Best to take that second beforehand and avoid it all together. Thanks for this video. Take care and have a good one, Adios! 👊
That is INSANE!!! This guy is just asking for it. Thanks for lookin’ out for us Stumpster! 👊😃
Please keep talking about safety. Hearing an expert give me tricks on how to keep my fingers is what keeps me coming back to your channel. Thank you for keeping all 10 in place!
I still remember, as a 12-year old, looking for my father's little finger in the pile of sawdust underneath the table saw. That was after I heard mom yell, "Oh, put it back on!"
Beside the obvious, I commend Stumpy for being able to convey what - generally speaking - a great safety teaching is in fact : an even greater lesson of mechanics. Kudos to you, as always.
I appreciate your video, thanks. I spent over 30 years investigating industrial and construction accidents and have seen hundreds of dangerous operations. This one is about as bad as they can get. So many safety principles were broken that it is hard to list them all. Again, thanks for doing a very good job explaining the issues. Hopefully it might save some fingers or wrist!
Thanks for doing what you did, people seem to forget entirely too often that safety regulations are written in blood, and that countless good people have died because of cut corners.
This video is like what is in a wood shop teacher's nightmare.
Watching this made my hands sweat! I almost couldn't watch it. Thank you for your great presentation, this should help many people appreciate good safety practices.
Wow! Gives me the willies to watch it! James, your critical comments and warning are spot on target!! You provide a true service to the woodworking community, for sure!
I also believe your commentary that he may have no choice but to operate that way working for a foreign company in order to make a living for him & his family is exactly right.
I think the important thing to remember about the "well just pay attention and you'll be okay" response is that if you repeatedly do something that is unsafe eventually you're gonna get use to it and end up not paying attention all the time. I got a PhD in organic chemistry where there is a similar idea about safety and on the one hand, yeah I never hurt myself when I was paying attention, the main issue is that I wasn't always paying the necessary attention. When I think back now, obviously trying to get those two glass pieces unstuck by just twisting on the glass tubing was dumb and an easy way to cut myself, but I was stressed, in a hurry trying to help out another student and didn't think about it for the 1 second it took to snap that tube in half and cut my thumb up pretty bad with it. I'm lucky that it was just a cut that some stitches fixed up fine and it didn't leave me with any serious impairment, but the inner half of my top thumb joint is numb now as a reminder.
I was a biochemist and did the same thing while trying to stick a piece of glass tubing into a rubber stopper. Luckily, I didn't even need stitches and there was no long lasting consequence - just six hours spent in the ER that I'll never get back.
Yeah, I heard a story from my AP Chem teacher back in the day of a guy that had tubing snap on him going into a stopper and ran the broken end of the glass into his arm more or less from wrist to elbow. The way he told it made me physically shudder at the thought. Even things without moving parts can wreck you if you force them.
My high school physics teacher was an organic chemistry PhD and he had a story, too. When he was in grad school, some of them were playing around making their voices high with helium, only one of them decided to try it with hydrogen instead of helium for even less density before proceeding outside for a smoke. It only takes a moment of not thinking things through or thinking of things as separate rather than putting two and two together for events to combine disastrously.
With each passing year, safety becomes more and more important to me. That’s why I will choose a cordless tool version first if possible and affordable. Cords get snagged and we get distracted. I’ve never lost a finger, but came very close with a table saw years ago, not while cutting, but using the saw in a cramped porch splitting 2x4’s in half. I should have moved the saw into a much larger room, but I did not have the dust control or the knowledge/common sense I have now.
Thanks for reminding us!!
I've seen some sketchy things on occasion and thought, " I probably wouldn't do that". This one honestly scared me. I say this as a woodworker and someone who spent many years in an operating room prior to my current profession. I've been there when we were attempting to reattach those missing digits, not pretty.
I like seeing safety videos. It’s always a good refresher for me.
Thank you for bringing this up. I've seen more than my share of stupid table saw tricks here on YT, and some of them are downright scary. I appreciate these reminders that any of our power tools can easily do this.
I prefer to say I respect the damage my tools can do rather than to say I'm afraid of my tools.
Frankly the most remarkable thing about this particular video is that the guy has all his fingers. Most of the "look at the mad skillz of this Asian factory worker!" genre includes at least one missing or tragically maimed digit.
One of my most serious conversations with my woodworking teacher was about safety and machines. He asked me to accompany him outside the workshop, on a small hill we sat down and all his warnings began. He told me everything pointing to his 10 intact fingers after more than 40 years of career. Thanks for your advice, it is never enough to emphasize safety, especially to younger people. Greate video.
This is scary and very brave of the user, the fingers were about 1 inch away from the blade 😨. Whenever I use my table or miter and circular saws, I like to keep myself as far away as possible and take my time.
Brave + table saw = stupid. But I agree, very scary.
Not brave, careless. Big difference
@2:26 come on bro…
I'm not a woodworker but even i get the shivers when i see how close he gets to the sawblade with his arms and hands
Great video. No matter the circumstances, I am always a little scared when I turn on a power tool and especially the table saw. Just the sound it produces screams "be careful!"
Another great safety lesson. You're right in that we're all human and unsafe practices will inevitably lead to disaster, disappointment, and dismemberment. Keep 'em coming!
You are a good man will be following you
Great comment Larry !!! 👍
Everything about your channel is fantastic!
Incredible high quality content, amazing knowledge, and highlighting safety.
So glad I found your channel.
That man wasn't shaking hands with danger, he was tongue kissing danger on prom night in the bushes outside
At my first full time job, the boss pointed me at a pile of plywood, drew a sketch, and told me to make crates on an ancient table saw with no guards. I was being really careful until I tripped and my left fingers passed across the blade. Split the first and third to the bone, missed the second clean. I'm sure I would have done a job like this if they had told me to.
Thanks, as always, James! I've had several close calls over the past 40 or so years, and I'm getting more and more safety conscious as the years go by.
I remember many years ago as a teen my Dad introduced me to a pro cabinet maker. I went to shake his hand and got just a stub with a couple of fingers poking out. Safety is everything. Well demonstrated and explained. Keep up the good work. 😮
Worst accident I ever saw in a factory was a guy with 35 years experience. He just did what he had done a thousand times and that time it cost him all four fingers on one hand. Spent the next year traveling around the company giving safety talks. Then retired.
The lawsuit that really triggered the rise of SawStop was by placed by a lawyer looking for deep pockets in the saw maker. The worker who lost his fingers was trying to rip a piece of flooring freehand on a small bench top style saw lacking even a fence.
The trick is that he's been able to survive this long, I don't think this is OSHA-approved.
Awesome video, Stumpy! I love your respectful manner, while you're trying to help keep us safe. 😊
He is reckless and gambling with his body parts. I have no time for people like this, or watching their videos. Whenever I see a video where the guy is running his hands next to the blade, off goes his video. I refuse to emulate unsafe techniques.
Retired shop teacher/carpenter gives this one a two thumbs up (I still have both)
Here is a story from my past. I was working a summer in South Carolina as a framer with a rather rough, extra macho crew. I was the only one who wore hearing protection or did not wedge the blade guard up. I was assigned to cut a set of rafters and for some reason I can't remember, I ended up using another fellow's saw, the one with no guard (the fellow who needled me about my ear protection until he had to get his hearing checked) .
Bad call.
It being probably 100 deg @ 100% humidity, typical weather with a 10 hour day and doing repetitive cuts on one I got a bit out of sequence and next thing I knew, I had an 8" slit in my pants. I was sooooo lucky that my skin was not touched.
And now @ 70 I have all my parts (does hair count)? and my ears are decent enough to play violin more or less in tune.
Something we preach on at my company (which admittedly doesn’t do woodworking but we are very safety focused) is that most incidents and near misses stem from 4 root causes
One of those causes is complacency, which is in line with your statement of experience doesn’t matter. If you’ve done a task a million times, you’re pretty used to it, and you might not notice something different, or you might miss part of the setup
I personally believe there’s a bell curve of how likely you are to hurt yourself doing something. At the bottom is the new people who don’t know what their doing, and often don’t realize how dangerous the job their doing can be. Then in the middle there’s the people that know what they’re doing, but are still new enough to realize how easily things can go pear shaped, and take necessary precautions. Then at the top there’s the old timers that have been doing that job for something close to 3-4 decades, they’ve done it a gajillion times without incident, and they get the mindset of “it hasn’t happened to me yet so why would it now”
Hey blue, just wanted to let you know I appreciate your tip on the sandpaper from 3M! Really been using it on the lathe last couple days and that's why I bought it and they don't wear out get hot I wonder where they've been my whole life. Thanks again that's why you're my boy blue
My father put this on and to be honest normally I don't pay that close attention to his "old CZcamsrs" (with all the respect in the world). However you caught my eye, you're well spoken, kind yet to the point, and very educational about things I don't know. I just wanted to reach out and say thank you for what you do, and it's this video specifically that caught my attention and caused me to subscribe. Honestly one of the best CZcams channels I've seen --even if you are a Detroit fan. Thanks for reading and please have a fantastic day Mr. stumpy Numbs.
Lol! So little boomerangs can learn new tricks! 🥰
For 32 years I programmed, tooled, set-up and occasionally ran multi-axis CNC lathes. Then I retired from that and bought a woodshop of machinery. I can tell you taking a 1 HP cut on wood is so much more dangerous than a 20 HP cut on steel. Take the time to BE SAFE EVERYONE!
I love when youtubers address safety seriously. No project or hobby is worth preventable injuries. Wish there were more people like this guy in the world. It's so rare for men to be this compassionate and humble.
Very few people have that much concentration for that long. Its fatiguing in itself as well. There are a few times he comes close to forgetting to keep his his forearm high enough as well.
This guy is lucky.
The Red Wings mug adds 100 credibility points.
My brother has been working in different shops for years building everything from display cabinets to wine racks. About 8 years ago he cut off the tip of his finger on his left hand. Last year he cut a finger on his right hand. He was laid-off from his job in July of this year and stared a new job in August. On his first day, he cut his thumb. It was pretty bad. The very next day he quit. He said that life is way too short to be worrying about losing an appendage or your life because of unsafe conditions or equipment. That's is the problem about having to work in a shop where you have no control over the safety issues. He now drives for a cupcake and catering company and the only thing he as to worry about is not letting the cupcakes tip over!
Thanks for showing us this. I'm 80 years old, and have become quite fond of my fingers.
Your videos and guidance have motivated me to use push blocks, sleds and jigs, not to mention thinking more about what could happen. Thank you
Thank you for this! No matter how much experience we have it is always good to be reminded of safety. Kind of like "continuing education" requirements. It's ironic that as a fairly new subscriber, I've been wondering why you named your channel "Stumpy Nubs" because it appears that you do have all your fingers - not a single knuckle missing, lol.
Good point. I used to wonder, too. If I recall correctly, Stumpy Nubs did get a hand injury in the workshop and has talked about it in another video. I think he said he lost some functionality and/or sensation as a result.
I spoke with this topic on table saw accidents with hand surgeon who did my carpal tunnel and triggered finger surgeries said that table saw accident that he works on are typically are caused by seasoned wood workers/contractors who are in a hurry and not usually by the home woodworker who typically is taking their time when they use the table saw. Taking time seems to be a big factor in saw safety.
As a physician with over 20 years experience in the emergency department, I have lost count of the number of patients I have treated who have lost fingers or portions thereof from accidents similar to what will occur due to this reckless use of a table saw. Table saws are very nasty creatures if you get on their bad side, and there is often too little healthy tissue left after they are done chewing through things to salvage the digit. Every case I can recall has resulted in a hand surgeon further shortening the remaining stump in order to try to allow the healthier tissue that is left to properly close the wound. I have never personally seen a patient where there was even an attempt at microsurgery repair, largely due to the way table saws utterly destroy flesh. I did have a couple patients where there was a discussion about amputating a toe to use it as a donor to make a new thumb-like digit.
May I ask: does a toe attached to the hand have a foot smell when sweaty? I've asked several surgeons before and they always thought I was joking. Genuinely curious.
@@gander4872 I am an expert on things that are serious or potentially fatal. I am not an expert on this specific area nor highly experienced with the procedure to answer your question with certainty. However, with that disclaimer stated, the sweat glands within the skin remain unchanged by such surgery. It would be reasonable to postulate that they would continue to respond as they had responded when they were attached to the foot. The difference would be that hands, unlike feet, are much less often fully enclosed in a way that maintains a very humid if not outright moist environment. Those of us who wear impermeable gloves regularly would be the exceptions.
One thing that called my attention were the worker’s hands (disclaimer: I am not a doctor, might be wrong) but you can see some clubbing on their finger tips, this is usually a sign of a chronic respiratory disease, ie. emphysema, asthma, or even lung cancer. Looking at the risky techniques and conditions, one may assume they are also not getting any kind protection from sawdust exposure, like masks or respirators.
That video took my breath away. Very possibly the craziest table saw practice ever filmed. Sheer insanity.
There's someone out there that really wants to give this video a thumb's up, but they can't. 😬
Please keep preaching safety. I cringe at the stupid things some CZcamsrs do, and I unsubscribe, so as not to encourage. I also refuse to watch other videos by them, even if the algorithm recommends them. Safety, safety and more safety. Thank you for being so adamant about safety.
The original video gave me severe anxiety. 😬 Thank you for doing the work to educate people against dangerous ignorance.
Knew a guy who would laugh at friends who asked how he could walk around all the wood slash and other debris on his wood shop floor. Frank stopped laughing when he stumbled over his trash while operating a circular saw. As he fell, the still spinning saw neatly nipped off his left hand. Next time I saw him, he was learning how to use a prosthetic hook. He wasn't laughing, anymore.
Took me over twenty years to pet my table saw wrong.. but eventually I did... I like the safety vids, thanks for making them Stumpy.
That wobbly beat up insert was moving the piece around so much during that first cut. SKETCHY
thank you for pointing these kinds of things out. I'm retired and worked with a tablesaw for more than 50 years, but last year I cut the tip of my middle finger off through repetitive cuts and a lack of focus. routine cuts that I have done forever. After that I made a jig. Took me all of an hour. Good painful lesson. So thanks
I was taught safe practices on a table saw, but never understood kickback and how it happened. One day while working in a large shop, another worker at a tablesaw did the wrong thing and a board flew off the saw and shattered when it hit the cinder block wall 20 feet away. I went to the foreman later and asked him to explain how that happened - the person didn’t use a push stick on the piece between the blade and the fence, but rather the off cut. He was lucky not to have been in the way. My point is the more you know the less likely you’ll have an accident. I’ve been using a table saw for over 50 years safely, but I always watch safety videos to learn more. Thank you Stumpy!
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2 out of 3 of my school woodwork teachers between 1971 and ‘76 had missing fingers from table saw accidents! We were instructed in workshop safety but not actually permitted to use the table saw, a few of us were allowed to use planer thicknesses after 1-1 tuition. I think, as a hobbyist, it’s best to use anything else that will do the job before considering table saw, then proceed cautiously. Well done for calling this out, there’s lots of similar ones out there.