Lost "Sub Driver 2 0" Surfboard Review Ep 120
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In this episode Nate Yeomans and I put the Lost "Sub Driver 2.0" through the paces.
Noel's Board Dims:
PU/Poly 5'8" x 18.75 x 2.30 (26.25L)
EPS/Epoxy 5'6.5" x 18.63 x 2.28 (25.30L)
Noel's height 5'9" and weight 165 lb
Nate's Board Dims:
5'10" x 19.25 x 2.35 (28.25L)
Nate's height 6'0" and weight 180 lb - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Thank you Noel and Aaron for having me on. Always a pleasure breaking down surfboards and splitting peaks with you. Great job on the review and looking forward to more in the future. Cheers
Likewise Nate the pleasure is ours.
Thanks for consistently putting up epic level content Noel and Aaron. Much appreciated. I've bought a bunch of boards based on your feedback and your recommendations have been bang-on. Thanks legends.
Love it when you have Nate in the show, you guys killed it in this review, thanks for sharing
Great review boys, can totally see a Phantom Vs Sub Driver 2.0 episode coming up 😉
My 6" Carbon wrap subdriver is in my top 3 favorite boards ever.....shreds in anything florida has to offer...lucky I grew up and live in most consistent spot in florida
I have two pyzel phantoms 5’8s - one in eps with a wooden stringer and the other in electralyte. The electralyte is my fav. I love both these boards but im very curious about the sub driver 2.0 in pu and eps. Thanks for the review. Cant wait to find one for a good price and see how the sub driver performs in chest or below socal waves! See you out there yewww! 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
Thanks for constantly cranking out these amazing reviews (and for responding to all our comments asking you to compare boards 😁). For 4+ surf in non-hallow conditions, which board would you prefer and what are the reasons which led you to that decision? Sub Driver 2.0, Inferno 72, or Highline?
The Highline has a lot of rocker… I say that’s a true HPSB and it’s not a good comparison to the i72 or SD 2.0.
The I72 seems to be more versatile in 1-6’ surf as small wave performance board for my style of surfing. I like my boards a bit shorter to surf the pocket quicker and I feel like it’s suited more to a back footed or neutral footed surfer. As I said in the review… the SD 2.0 felt a little long in the smaller surf for my likings. The straighter outline of the SD 2.0 seems to favor more neutral -front footed surfers and I had to adjust my style of back footed surfing to start connecting with it. The custom SD 2.0 in Light Speed felt better in 1-4’ compared to the 5’8” but as soon as the waves were over head then the 5’80 started to excel for me. The I72 felt solid on me in 1-6’
Always a great show!Hope soon,Medina or Felipe will be at your show.
I don’t know if this is relevant or not but dude as a bigger guy in mushy east coast waves finding proctor surfboards with their monstachief model has been a total game changer for me. It would be cool to see you review his monsta line of boards! Pete mendia rides proctors and seared by them as well, Todd proctor has something really special going on in his shaping bay!! Legit tried tons of ci’s like the pod mod and the ultra joe to get the 40 liters I need but the monstachief with the jet single channel bottom.. I pop up and the board just want to squirt with speed and loves laying over on rail. I’ll always have a monsta in my quiver they go insane!
Yep, got my first Monsta in 2007 and have been riding different variations of it every since. He's an amazing shaper.
Thanks
When it comes to small wave performance shortboard I honestly think you were surfing way better on the pyzel phantom.
Mate, that was a great format for a board review. Love your work. Keep ‘em coming!
Cant wait for the review on the RNF 96!
Great surfing as usual Noel. Pretty cool to have a guest surfer too! Any chance you will be doing a review on the Pyzel Highline?
Cheers…. Yes, I hope to do a review on the Highline.
Bro, sick review bro!
I like Sub Driver 2.0, I usually surf on beach breaks and I think it's an irregular board. In some waves I think it is very good and in others it is very bad. My other boards are CI Fever is Two Happy. Both are far superior to Sub Driver 2.0 in my opinion and work best in all conditions where I've used SD.
The Fever is one of the best and all round surfboard ever. The way the board manuvers without almost losing speed is something that is hard to find in others boards. I'm curious to see what a Fever 2.0 will be...
I was surfing the fever in more slopey waves and it felt kinda slow compared to my other boards with flatter rocker. Do you always have to surf it on rail to get speed or are you able to get speed just going straight down the line? Are the waves more punchy at your spots?
@@SaadiHowell My spot has fast drop waves that get weaker later.
How would you compare the Fever with the Two Happy? Between the two which is your favorite for SoCal waves?
So stoked you got Daniel Day Lewis on the show
Noel… I could be wrong, but SD 2.0 at times reminded me of Sharpeye Storms, as it has less rocker and thinner rails . In weak waves I need the thicker rails and in strong waves I need more rocker.
That’s a pretty good board comparison. The Storms and S D 2.0 surf pretty similar… I found the SD 2.0 had more hold in overhead surf, especially in choppy conditions. My custom SD 2.0 Light Speed had thicker rails and it went better in smaller waves, but when the waves were overhead I struggled to bury the rail quickly. That’s a combination of EPS being topical and the thicker rail. I suggest ordering the SD 2.0 with a little thicker rail (Bro Dims) with a focus on 1-4’ surf in Light Speed. If your looking for a HPSB then keep the rails thinner to knife into the wave easier.
Great episode.
My only question left is how does the 5.8 poly board feel paddle power wise and entry into the wave when you compare it to other boards with similar volume?
The volume of the stock dims of the 5.8 is on the lower edge of my favourite volume and im not sure if i will need that extra foam under me when its very small or mushy. Thoughts?
The board paddles similar to most small wave performance boards like the Rocket Wide, NB2, Wilko F13, etc…
I would say similar to the Driver 2.0 as a HPSB.
The Sub Driver 2.0 is not my first choice for 1-3’ mushy surf. I would rather go with the Uber Driver XL or PJ Pro. They carry more speed and have more glide with less effort on my part compared to the SD 2.0
I tested 3 different fin sets on my Sub Driver 2.0 - JS Med. PC, Filipe Toledo Lg. PC, and finally the Al Merrick Lg. PC.
AM's with the more pronounced rake felt amazing. The AM's held and performed well in most conditions. The Filipe's - which are closer to a neutral fin - went good on fatter waves, maybe with a higher tide or and softer sections. The medium JS fins were a miss for me, which may have just been a size issue. I feel like Noel was pretty spot on with his assessment about fins. I'm 5'10" about 170lbs, my sub driver 2.0 is 5'9" 19.00" x 2.32" 27.25 L.
Hope that helps someone out there!
Great post thank you. Your info will help others
Awesome review Noel, I have a question. For a daily driver you're surfing in mostly 2'-6' waves (Southern California), would you prefer the Driver 2.0 or Sub Driver 2.0?
Driver 2.0… it suits my style of surfing better off the back foot.
Hi Noel …. are your Poly PU boards laminated with Team Glass 4s/4 or do you sometimes use standard glass like 4+4/4?
I prefer team light for performance… especially in reviews. Stock glass can often feel stiff and heavy.
Love your reviews! Looking for a all around board for an advanced intermediate and looking between the Sci Fi 2.0 and this Sub Driver 2.0. Any thoughts on differences between those two? Thanks!
SciFi 2. Needs a good wave to go good. The SD2.0 can surf hood in smaller waves but I found it better suited for neutral to front footed surfers.
Hi Noel! I’m moving to Santa Cruz and was wondering what board you would recommend for those 4-6 foot mushy point breaks. Specifically looking for a twin fin. Any response is appreciated, love the show!
The Fishbeard will go insane there
great review. Just wondering Noel, your friend got (at least) one "bomb" during that swell. Which board were you trying out? Did you had the opportunity to go in with any step-up ?...would be greet to have a review from a JD ranging bull or similar ;)
No step up board reviews from me at this time.
For a daily driver type board, Sub driver 2.0 or Phantom which is the best?
The Phantom paddles better with more glide and likes to carve. The SD 2.0 offers more high performance surfing in the pocket. The SD 2.0 surfs more vertical and it’s more radical. Remember…. the Lost team riders shred the SD 2.0 on the QS. The Phantom is more user friendly geared more for intermediate to Advanced surfers.
Awesome video Noel. I have a SD 2.0 PU that is the best feeling small wave performance board Ive ridden, it feels electric, super driven and reactive. Im wondering if you could recommend a board that has similar feel of the SD2.0 but for bigger days around SH-HH or more?
Driver 2.0
sorry I didn't understand if the SUBDRIVER or the SUBDRIVER 2.0 is better for the choppy
I live in the Canaries and any board you recommend for choppy would be a great help for me. Thanks!
My Sub Driver 2 goes good in choppy surf. Pu/poly
Maybe you already know, but can you ask Nate if he prefers the original Sub driver or the SD 2.0. Thx
Hello Noel, NB2 or phantom for a daily? Or are they not on the same wave size scale? Thank you for everything
NB2 carries more speed, pivots faster, and more radical. The NB2 shreds 1-4’ surf better. The Phantom is more user friendly and handles 4-7’ surf better.
Thank you
Hi noel love your job.what bord is better for small waves sub driver or heppy every day tnx
Happy Everyday
Great review Noel and Nate!
How does the board compare to the chilli volume 2?
The BV2 is faster down the line and it will grovel better. The 96 can handle bigger steeper surf. Both boards are epic…
I know you haven’t ridden the original sub driver but you might be able to help with this question. Im looking to fit a gap. I have a 5’8 black & white great for bigger days on the Encinitas reefs. Then I have 5’5 neck beard I ride on smaller days all over. Im surfing oceanside 90% of those smaller days and i feel like the neck beard just doesn’t surf top to bottom like im trying to achieve on those 3-5 beach break days. Im thinking sub-driver 5’7-5’6 will be perfect for this gap. My only concern is the 2.0 seems like it wont be all that different from my neck beard. seems like the original sub driver has a little more kick in the nose and tail that will fit better in that beach break pocket. Whats you’re opinion? Thanks for your time!
I recommend the Inferno 72 or Driver 2.0
Hey Noel, Queastion about your momentum series quad rear pivots. What fcs2 quad rears is similar to yours with the flat foils ?
My Pivot Quad rears are unique and nothing like them in FCSII. Sorry… you can buy mine in Two Tab to use in your FCSII plugs with the inserts. That’s what I use and they go mental. Here is the link to check them out….
www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins/products/momentum-series-ms-qdp-quad-rears-only
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Oh ok I didn't see the ones with 2 tabs Sold I will give it an go thank you
@@NCsurfer607 Cheers… thank you!
Well I’m feeling sold that this might be my next board! Currently loving my Pyzel Phantom, thanks Noel, and want to find a little more performance and this seems like it would be it. This or maybe the Sharpeye Inferno 72, thoughts? Thanks for your killer insights Noel, see ya in the water! 🏄🏻♂️
I72 is mental too. This SD 2.0 favors neutral to front footed surfing for maximum drive. The I72 can be Back Foot, Neutral and probably good for front footed surfers to.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 great insight, gives me a deeper perspective. Thanks as always!
Hi Noel, I’m trying to decide which board I should get for a daily driver/HPSB program Sharpeye I72, ci fever or lost driver 2.0 Thanks
i have i72 and driver2. Driver 2 is faster, better all around. i72 has more tail rocker....it surfs good, I just never vibed with it.
@@stevelee6364 which type of waves do you surf ?
@@stevelee6364 and about the fever ? Also looks a very good board for 2-3f to 6-8f
@@marieaugier8128 florida. rode fever years ago, can't really remember
@@stevelee6364 thank you
Cant believe how guided and based by volume you guys are. What about rail line when you go down to 5'6.5? Of course that board is not the type of board to go so short.
hi noel your reviews are amazing.
what are the differences between sub driver 2.0 and driver 2.0?
I have this same question, was ready to buy a driver 2.0 but now I'm torn
The SD 2.0 seems to suit a neutral or front footed surfer due to its straighter outline. The Driver 2.0 suits my style of surfing more off the tail. It also suits neutral and front footed surfers alike. I like the Driver 2.9 better and I would even consider using the Driver 2.0 as my small wave performance board at 5’7” due to the speed it carries.
I have this board it's 5,9x19,14x23,8 very fast down the line it's in light speed
Thanks for posting…
Please surf some beach breaks or something besides a world class wave where everything works decent
I do that a little in the winter time. It’s tough to feel out a board in 1-2 turn Beachies.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 that's where most of us surf though, especially 1-4ft onshore conditions
@@Julianuribe23 I try to surf the board in textured or occasionally choppy surf to give you guys some idea of how the boards respond in tough conditions. Not super interested in testing boards in 1-4 choppy close outs…. Can’t tell much on how a board responds in conditions like that.
Noel, what's your durability rating for the light speed tech? If Helium is a ten, where do future flex and light speed fall on that scale?
The Firewire techs are a bit more durable in regards to pressure dents for sure. FF, Spinetek, Lightspeed, Carbon Wrap, are roughly a 6.5 out of 10. PU/Poly is a 4 out of10 when it comes to durability with a stock glass job
@@surfnshowreviews7777Thank you! if light speed is on par with FF then it is durable enough for me. I'm a big fan of FF. Does light speed have a similar feel under foot?
@@mattclem382 Not really… it’s got its own feel… similar to Spinetek
What would work better, Lightspeed Driver 2.0 or Lightspeed Sub Driver 2.0 in 2-6 beach breaks?
For Back footed surfers I say Driver 2.0, and for front footed surfers I say Sub Driver 2.0
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks!
which fins model do you indicate from fcs2?
I like the Kolohe Andino fins size Large
Could you review the softecj flash?
How does the light speed hold up compared to the carbon wrap?
Thanks
Roughly the same
If you want more durability then go C4.
Hey Noel, that board looked hard to surf compared to a lot of the other boards you have tried. And it looked like it lacked speed and flow in the footage.
Possibly but I think it was more the conditions. They were definitely junkier waves than those in most of his other reviews.
Would be awesome if you can add a nuance if a board is better for punchy or slopey waves. With that rocker I'm hesitant to try that it in the 2ft-3ft slopey waves i have out where i live.
I suggest the PJHP or UD XL
Thanks for the recommendation on those will check them out. But I was requesting that you add that detail to reviews, you said this was good in 2 to x feet but I was curious what type of wave will it work in cuz a 2 foot wave at a punchy spot is different than a 2 foot wave at a slower spot. I got the rnf retro and swordfish on your recommend. The rnf retro can handle the 2-4 foot slopey waves pretty well, love that board but was looking for a more high performance board that could handle slopey waist to chest high flatter waves. The swordfish seems like it needs more punch because of the rocker profile.
@@SaadiHowell The SD 2.0 will go pretty good in 2-3’ slopey surf. It will go better in punchy hollow surf.
Hi brother! How would you compare to the Dominator 2.0 ?
Dominator 2 is more forgiving, paddles better and Carrie’s more speed compared to S Driver 2. The S D2.0 will out perform the D2 in the pocket and loves to be surfed off the front foot.
Great reviews as always. how does this sub driver light speed compare with a Dominator2
Sub Driver suits a neutral to front footed surfer better. It also surfs more like a HPSB.
The D2 pivots faster, Carrie’s more speed and it’s easier to surf. The D2 suits my style of surfing better
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks for that. I found the dominator to be one if the best boards I have ridden it just needs more nose kick in the wavegarden pool as the waves there are small and steep in the pocket.
not sure how to tell if one is a front footed or rear footed surfer ?! have you done a video on this topic yet ?
@@nathanmaurice4103 The D2 suits more neutral to back footed surfer. It’s wide point is behind center with less foam under the front foot. That’s why it pivots so fast and surfs so well top to bottom
Anyone know if there's much difference between sub driver 2.0 and Uber driver?
S Driver 2.0 suits a front footed surfer better…. The UD suits a back footed - neutral footed surfer better. I personally like the UD better… I more of back footed surfer.
Wich is better the sub driver or the if72?
I prefer the I72.
why would i get this vs a uber driver xl? im 6'0 215 looking for user friendly waist to head plus daily driver. thats what had me targeting a uber driver xl. dims dont matter as id get custom
I say get the UD XL for smaller waves and a guy your size. It goes better in smaller waves
Uber XL and a round tail driver is a good 2 board performance surfing quiver
I prefer to see Noel surfing slightly longer and narrower board; Like Nates board... longer, narrower.
hello champ.cant decide sampler or sd 2.0?
I like the Sampler better but it’s suits my back footed approach better. The SD 2.0 is better for neutral to front footed surfers
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks
Very ripable waves!
This just sucks! They have trestles to try boards on. Not a ripple of water out of place, no rips to paddle against. I guess that is why lost mayhems go so well having waves like this to tune your designs on.
maybe you need more foam under your feet Noel
Yewww
What's a rip? Look it up.