Jim Cornette on Shawn Michaels Starting A Riot & How Difficult He Was To Deal With
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I was present at this event. I'll never forget it. Shawn Michaels came out with Chyna and HHH and got on the mic and said "If we keep throwing shit, we'll just shut this shit down." Shawn barely made it out of the ring before the crowd filled the ring with chairs. I was about 13, I left that place covered in beer. It was nuts
You had an awesome childhood
Hey, you got free beer
That guy Chyna was huge at that early stage
@beauboyette3821 shut up bitch boy u and ur loser friends were jacking each other off
shawn is the real divas champion
Underrated comment
Shawn being Shawn...as Scott Hall likes to say
He was 1 to talk 😂
Laughing right now at the thought of Jim hitting tennis balls back at the crowd LOL
What makes me laugh more is that I know the exact gym he’s talking about. I go to the university where that incident took place
I wonder if Jim could hit 'the curve'!?!
Actually the fans that night, myself included were upset because the show was advertised as a Raw is War taping and we were then told it would not be airing. Plus the normal Raw ring setup wasnt there, no Titantron, etc.. we got the old bait and switch
They did that to us fans a lot back then.
I was lucky enough to attend an actual RAW taping in Albany NY (I live Upstate) at the then "Pepsi Arena", formerly the "Knickerbocker Arena"... and now "Times Union Center".
But the other show I saw there was absolutely a bait and switch situation. Luckily the card was still really good... so there was no riot... but they definitely sold tickets like it was a RAW taping... but like you said, no titantron, I don't even think there was any pyro, and they definitely didn't use the RAW ring. It was the old red, white, and blue ropes (which surprised me, for some reason). Main event was a triple threat between Mankind, Kane, and Undertaker. Probably the best house show I ever saw.
If I remember, I think the big reason for the incident in Little Rock was that it was on a Monday night and the fans thought it was going to be a live RAW, but it was just a regular house show
Let's not forget - Shawn didn't do jobs regularly. And whether he did or didn't, he wasn't going to make the other guy look any good unless he had to. Bret Hart, whether he was booked to win or lose, was against squash matches and always tried to get other guy over as much as himself because he knew that the more guys he could help get over, the more guys he'd have to draw money with. HBK was too doped out of his mind to care at that point. The "Elite" function in an even worse way, and their boss was stupid enough to actually give them official authority roles in that company, and to my knowledge, those guys don't have any serious alcohol or drug problems. They're just short-sighted. Your goal as a wrestler isn't to bury your opponent. Squash matches shouldn't be your thing. Your goal is to make sure that while you look good, so does the other guy, because then you can make money with them.
My friend had tickets to that show and invited me my mom said hell no. The next day I asked friend how it was. He described in two words Holy Shit
i was at this event , it was crazy , after the whole place was cleared out i actually got to go down and touch the ring and stuff, that was cool . then afterwards we went to hotel bars and ran into alot of the wresters. cool expierence
What exactly triggered the riot?
Home boy PIG SWIEEE ! 🔥😎
Don't lie.
X pac was there too
They were already throwing stuff... when he got on the mic the only thing he said was "because of you stupid people throwing shit, you just lost your main event"... it was a Monday night, that they had advertised as "Raw", which it clearly was not. That was where the problems started that night.
Jim Cornette is hilarious and he keeps it real.
@@zeroverse6387 I bet you never had good parents. I'm sorry
@@tacotom3492 it's okay
That's Cornette
@n/a I didn't. I don't care about any of those Illuminati trash people
Chris Jackson: Totally agree!
Kevin nash couldn't draw Dime if you give him paper and pencil 🤣🤣🤣
Cornette hates Shawn Michaels like JR hates ultimate warrior.
Cornette didn’t like the Warrior either he was more difficult then Shawn hell he didn’t even want to be a wrestler they said he , he’s didn’t even like being handled
the older i get the less i like shawn and im 39 now i really dislike him
Same. I was a huge HBK mark when I was a kid, but now I just think he's a complete asshole.
UNprofessional Wrestler
Years well spent I guess..
I hated him from day one. 25 years later he sucks worse than ever.
Well he was a young kid who knew he was talented and he was an asshole about it..we’re all dumb when we’re young with far less talent lol
How Shawn has never been fired is beyond me.
He was...twice
He did a lot of "favors" for Vince
Vince owes him for all the blowies.
Vimce isnt gay, he played with shawns hair , closed thexeyes and thought of sable.
Idk why after the Curtain Call Vince didn't punish Shawn too. Obviously Kevin and Scott left, so he couldn't do anything to them. But even though Shawn was champion, couldn't Vince have just took the belt off him the next chance he got and gave it to someone else (like Bret or Taker for example)? It doesn't make sense that Vince just couldn't punish Shawn because "he was the champion"
Because Shawn was Vince's Fav butt fuck
Shawn Michaels was Stone Cold before Austin was. Shawn was over more so than even Hogan in the 80s.
The WWF was starting the attitude era thanks to Shawn's behavior that drew older audiences.
In fact, Austin and Rock should thank their lucky stars that Royal Rumble casket match happened.
@@ComaAlpha Stating Michaels was "Stone Cold" before Stone Cold is perhaps the dumbest comment I have heard in a good long while. HBGay was NEVER anything close to Stone Cold.
@@ComaAlpha if HBK was that over he would have drew. I love HBK, but he wasn't that over. He was the most over in a group a wrestlers that weren't over at all.
@@steveomac385 that's why he was the face of the company more than once.
They also walked out on a show in Memphis that same month.
zt1053 It was the night before. This card took place in my hometown of Little Rock, Arkansas. I was in the front row, and when that chair flew over my head and hit the ropes, shit was on. People were pissed as hell because they missed Nitro for that show LMAO.
zt1053 I was at the Memphis show
So was I
@@ThePatrickBynum Holy SHit!
@@ThePatrickBynum shawn michaels should've got his ass knocked out
But his hair...... Shawn's hair......... (runs away to cry.....again)
Crazy that Vince let Shawn and HHH get away with all that. HBK couldn’t draw for shit.
And Undertaker Poked Fun At That Fact At The Expense Of Shawn Michaels
That's freaking gold..... Hit the tennis balls back with the tennis racket!!!!
I was at that show, Shawn was pelted in the chest with a full soda. It exploded all over him and he yells "you just lost your main event for throwing shit!" Classic assholes.
Love listening to Cornette. A great, knowledgeable mind in the business.
I was at a house show in Nassau Coliseum, the main event between Brock and Big Show ended in about 30 seconds. Brock threw Show into the cage and it completely collapsed. was kinda lame, but kinda awesome too. no one really got too mad. everyone could tell it wasn't supposed to happen.
Damn I’m from LI too what year was this
I'd be paying em' double if they promised I don't have to sit through more than 30 seconds of Brock v. Big Show 😂
HBK was such a terrible world champion. And god he and HHH trashed the European title after Bulldog & Owen made it prestigious.
I agree that HBK was an awful champ, but to say the European Title was prestigious is a stretch.
@@vict4451 I agree but they devalued it before it got any real prestige
@@FBA_God_Emperor_Doom was it meant to have any prestige? It was a gimmick belt, just like the hardcore belt.
I disagree with that
It was awesome.
HBK was , is and will always be the 🐐
people seem to love him, i never got it - I always preferred Bret
bigearl33 same here Brett was way better,I don't get why some say he was the best but Flair was the man and Steamboat was the greatest baby face.so many people call him a brat, douchebag, diva
bigearl33 Sorry Bret was boring. His matches were dull. Shawn was an asshole but he was a much better wrestler and performer than Bret Hart.
bigearl33 i preferred Bret while younger but I feel on his second half wwe career Shawn out performed even himself. Better matches
Me too.Bret Hart was the best.His match with Austin at Wrestlemania 13 is the greatest bout in WWF/ WWE History!
bigearl33 totally agree with you there
At a regular house show in memphis he refused to put Jerry Lawler over in the mid 90's. They canceled the main event issued refunds. That's like refusing to put over Flair in Charlotte in the 80's or 90's.
Micheals was a child at times.
More like refusing to put over flair in the 00's
At times?
He still is a child.
He uses Chrisianity like a shield to protect him from his past self.
He may be able to delude himself, but the fans won't forget.
@@thisisnotachannelAnother point he never made anybody a star like Flair did Sting, Barry Windham, Lugar etc.
@@thisisnotachannel Fully agreed
Vince: you're fired Shawn
Shawn: oh yea well imma expose you as gay
Vince: God dammit pal, heres a raise.
Nice!!!✌️
it's the only reason i've always believed that
Dammit I read that in vinces voice 😆
@Turd Ferguson So has Bret Hart
Shawn wouldn't say 'imma'!? He can talk properly, you know?
Cornette whacking tennis balls at the crowd would’ve been hilarious
“You can hit “em a lot ****en harder than they can throw ‘em too” hahaha
No one was bigger than Bill Watts in Little Rock.🔥😎
Would have been great to have some footage of this
I believe there are a few photos of this online.
lol
Same with the plane ride from hell.
was a house show that was advertised taping is why no video, thats what started the riot
@@cats362 yeah I know that's why there's no footage. Shame. There's all sorts goes down at these house shows but sadly no footage. I'd love to see the one where Vader spits the dummy working with Warrior and leaves
Cornette is always great to listen to
Typical Shawn being a diva ...
Never liked Shawn Michaels and his merry men
That "piece" of paper could of been a brick
@@brudderstyles3479 hahahahahahaha
And the Main Event was supposed to be Stone Cold Steve Austin & Ken Shamrock Vs HHH & Shawn Michaels.. get it right
I was at this show when Shawn starting running his mouth on the Mic is when we arkansas folks went nuts
I think the reason why the Kliq was able to get away with so much shit was because they had dirt on Vince pertaining to his steroid trial.......
Close... they had dirt on him about something else, though...
@@thisisnotachannel well?
If Danny Hodge was in his prime I would have hired him as a security guard for that riot
PJ Kalish I’d hire Danny hodge today as a security guard
His prime started and never stopped
Whoever booked Kevin Nash's title run in wwf . Should be chemically castrated . Don't blame the worker blame the book !
Mike Hess NASH road everyones coat tails, such a boring performer
Sting vs Shawn Michales in their prime. Damn I wish I could have seen that.
Renaldo Haywood woulda been epic
Sting would have booked like he was for HHH which was a disgrace.
Renaldo Haywood i love them both & actually have met with hbk a few times about deer hunting, i think they had 2 different styles & think it would be hard for them to work together , thats my thought
Huh?
I don't know why everyone wanted Sting vs Taker. Sting is HBK was my dream match. And I'm pretty sure Shawn would have done him better than HHH. At least post finding Jesus.
Shawn gave McMahon soooooo many reasons to can him over the years. I really don't know how Shawn kept his job. Was he blackmailing his boss?
Vince is sort of just weird like that. He did it with Warrior and Hogan too.
He's like a kid with his toys, and he has his new favorite, along with his old favorite, and he can't resist bashing them together.
I imagine he put up with Shawn for the same reason that he offered Bret a 10 year, 10 million dollar contract. He felt like he couldn't lose them.
Yet, the second Bret got Austin over big in the I quit match, he starts switching gears. I mean, you notice just how quick he dropped Shawn once Austin, and then the Rock, started to rise.
Did you ever look at how Vince fawned over him? It was like a school girl
canedubey many stories are out of Vince holding many usless conversations with shawn after his matches...in the showers...while Shawn showered...
Vince was clearly in love with him.
@@MaxxCoyote Warrior and Hogan had strong ratings, great PPV, high house shows ratings, and overwhelming merchandising. Shawn, not in that part of the 90s, had those kind of the numbers.
To be fair, it was clear the nWo wasn't part of the wwf before Hogan's turn. That angle was hot because it was well-written. And b/c Hall Nash and Hogan were perfect for the role.
"attention span of a fuckin gnat" 😂😂
I honestly believe that Shawn Michaels had some blackmail pictures on Vince McMahon. How could Vince let one of his talents act that way. Any other wrestler would have been fired.
I dont think so, I dont think their gay in any way. I believe that Vince lives vicariously through shawn michaels and other characters. Hell, growing up with low selfesteem, I liked how HBK talked shit to some of these people who pretend to be virtuous and righteous, listening to hbks theme and pretending to be hbk when wrestling in school helped me like who I saw in the mirror. Its crazy but it is what it is.
Vince helped Snuka get away with literal murder for decades so letting Shawn do whatever he wanted is far from shocking...
@@poindextersheelturn436 Yet hbk is flamboyant and dressed like a chip n dales dancer. You are deluding yourself bub.
@@aboriginalson Deluding myself how? Ive never seen a Chip in Dales dancer outside of tv show funny skits. Every boss has favorites, Vince like Shawn and his passion and what did Shawn do that made hime unbearable? Bury Chris Dandito? He sucked. Bury Dean Douglas? He sucked. Many of those guys sucked and if the opposite was true then why arent we talking about their 5 star matchs?
I'm surprised Taker didn't drag Michaels back out there and make him wrestle the match.
I think Vince tolerated Shawn because of lack of options. Austin and Rock coming into their own was a god send for Vince because he didn't need the whiny little shit Shawn Michaels anymore. Rock and Austin made more money for him, and the back injury got rid of THAT headache just at the right time.
look at chyna in that pick. That's what growth will do to a woman.
D Togo how triple h smashed that the world may never know like why dude she looks like a dude stronger than him
She got a big time makeover
@@Bsfnelz20 chyna was trans.
@@aboriginalson lol
It's arguable that the locker room politics coupled with the competitive nature of the people of the generations of the 80s and 90s is the reason why wrestling was so much better back in the day. McMahon and many other legends have claimed that today's generation are not cut from the same cloth hinting that the locker room is more of a team and yes men and women not willing to push their creative direction. I think Vince's comment about nobody wanting to take the brass ring was a reference to how people are scared to risk their jobs and fight others backstage for the top spot today, instead opting to go with whatever their given. People like hulk, warrior, the Kliq and every other big star fought their way to the top backstage and rarely cooperated. Today, everyone does what their told and honestly I'm sure the backstage area was similar but the legends never followed a script. Had the legends botched their off script promos they would have probably been treated the same as today's guys and girls. My point is that the backstage heat and politics probably created a more competitive environment which led to better wrestling. These guys today also lack the training those guys had years ago and probably have every right to fear going off script, but if highly successful, I'm sure they may have a chance at being a top guy. If they fail miserably, they are probably fired on the spot which is why everyone is on pins and needles, but the legends were probably treated the same. If punks pipebomb was legitimately an offscript shoot, than that is another example of going off script successfully and not being fired. Not saying I'm right, but it's funny how all the pro wrestlers we loved as kids were a bunch of backstabbing locker room politicians and today's wrestlers all seem to get along well and probably wouldn't dare politic in the back. It's just something to think about.
Yeah, in that same vein, if wrestlers do take initiative, they get buried, suspended, or fired. Look how many wrestlers have turned themselves into awesome performers in TNA, AEW, Mexico, or Japan. Why are they greater than they were in WWE. They are held back or limited, now they are in places where they can wrestle their styles, develop their preferred personas, and cut their promos.
Derrick Barnette
Your argument is a bit...
...muddled.
Because they're all hipster, simps these days.
This in was Little Rock!!!!
I was a kid in Boone NC when that happened
Now the whole tennis racket makes sense as to why he brought it down to the ring. This is the first time I heard about tennis balls being thrown at Jim.
No, it was to show that he was a spoiled bitch
The Outsiders said they weren't with the WWF on the first pay per view. They were popular because they were the coolest thing we had ever seen in wrestling.
Thanks to Vince threatening litigation. By then the damage was already done though.
Look at Hall's first promo. Eric wanted it to look like WWF was invading WCW.
@@ComaAlpha i doubt most ppl actually saw that live. I know i didnt start watching until some time around the Disney taping when they attacked everyone backstage
there was a riot in memphis the night before as well
Can someone tell me what episode this is from?
these days wrestling is looked at as a stepping stone for being an action movie star.
You can hit them harder than you can throw them made me 😂. We need jim in wrestling for a laugh and even give him a show to run and let him bring a different, old school style show
He has tried that.
He tried to bring some class, dignity, and respect for the history of the business to ROH and TNA/Impact. They shunned him for it. Hell, I'm pretty sure Cornette lost his two front teeth due to a botched chair shot in ROH. He even cut a promo afterwards. It's on ScrewTube.
Owen died and the show went on
It annoys me when people say the kliq was not a bad thing! I knew about the kliq when it was going on
whats the name of this song at the beginning
Does anyone know what the name of the theme song at the start is?
Gnats actually have good attention spans, infact all living beings do. They perceive time differently though so to them we are moving extremely slowly.
I'm so proud that Little Rock, and Barton Colliseum, are known as a rowdy crowd. And for not putting up with Shawn's bullshit that night
My brother and I were at this match. Front row with chairs being thrown over our head after DX left. Crazy night.
Jim cornette is the best
Cornette should of been hitting the tennis balls back with the racket😂 that would of been hilarious
Not many can incite a riot like Shawn Michaels 😂😂
That's funny ass hell about nobody ever throwing tennis balls at Cornettes racket.
Vince ruined Nash's push. Yeah let's have the him beat Bob Backlund at a house show. Have him draw in his first defense, and put him in a program with Mable. Yeah that's how you get your champ over.
Ask Jinder if Vince knows how to push a champion. Or Rey Mysterio... .
97-99 was amazing and dx started it.
I get Michael's was a prick but I think their view of his drawing power is flawed. The overall product was trash, Michaels kept them afloat long enough for them to turn it around. Without him, WCW would have put them out of business before the Austin mania happened
Lunacy revisionism. Michaels was a trash champion who kept nothing "afloat". After making Michaels a gay male stripper then pushing him as "The boyhood dream" was just oh so lame . Everyone knew it then regardless of what current WWE propaganda says about Michaels today.
You're wrong
it was a cup with ice that hit shawn not paper by the way, plus a cooler with cans in it tossed at him, plus tobacco being spit on them and crap flying everywhere before hand. It was advertised as a taping and ended up being a hose show is what started it. Funny how people put their on twist on it for publicity. Cant make a bad situation worse when your already saying it was bad in beginning. duh
I heard this story from Bruce prichard podcast
Vince can be a big kid sometimes if a group of employees go around bullying other employees and breaking company rules and regulations what kind of message is that sending to everyone else working for WWE
A 2min casket match so they brought out the casket and the rock climbed in it and the match was over
I hated that damn tennis racket lol gotta love ol corny.
It was a battery, not a piece of paper
Typical Shawn Michaels
"Ba the way shawnnn FUCK Yewww Tewww!"
I was there lol Frfr I hit HHH in the face with the rest of my nachos when DX was walking through the exit curtain to leave 😭😭😭 #truestory
No, nothin further from the truth. Not even God being real
Lmaoo
D-X for life!!!
People always talk about the infamous examples of "exposing" the business like the curtain call or Duggan and sheiks run in with the law. But the one that probably was most widely seen is never brought up. You know how many millions of people have watched Rocky 3 over the years? Probably way more than all the other instances combined.
dead account how did rocky 3 expose the business?
@@chrisgrudge6964 That's the one where he fights Thunderlips (Hogan) at the start. Who went crazy when the bell rang. If I remember correctly he even launches Rocky from inside the ring out into the crowd. Then after what was easily the most entertaining match between a wrestler and a boxer. They get in the back and it's all smiles and taking pictures. Rocky may have even asked why he went crazy. Was told it was part of the show. Been a minute since I watched. So can't remember the specifics of the conversation. But you don't even need the sound on to see the inconsistency of his behavior in public and the back. That being said. There's a great line from Micky trying to talk Rocky out of the fight. "Have you seen one of these guys b4, wrestlers are as big as dinosaurs. Have you ever fought a dinosaur?" lol
@@deadaccount7520 Yeah but it's not really implying wrestling is fake. It was an exhibition match for charity so they weren't supposed to hurt each other, but Thunderlips decided to fight Rocky for real. Thunderlips going back to being a cool guy is just showing it was no hard feelings - that exist in real boxing, MMA etc, guys talk trash or get very violent but afterwards are chummy.
The same plot could have happened between Rocky and another boxer, or Rocky and a karate fighter etc and it would have had the same effect.
@@chrisgrudge6964 That's the thing though. It could have been against any of those. But it wasn't. It was against the guy from the profession that at that point was concerned about maintaining the illusion of being legit.
dead account incoherent rambling and babbling. It didn’t expose the business. Rocky assumed, as most non-fans did, that it was all a work, and thunderlips smartened him up. The movie treated it as a legitimate competition.
So go on again with your ramblings...
Shawn Michaels pulling an Axel Rose.
And that’s why Jerry Jarrett isn’t in business anymore
I was always curious about what Kurt Angle thought of Shawn early on. Kurt only ever talks well about him but I can't imagine a man who cares about wrestling as much as Kurt does would be cool with Shawn's nonsense.
I'm so sick and tired of people acting like the "Curtain Call" was the worst thing to happen to wrestling. Speaking as someone who's been in theater and has been part of many actual curtain calls. For so many people like Cornette acting like four performers breaking character AFTER the performance was over to say goodbye to one another because two of them were leaving is some type of disgrace because of some garbage internal rules that you aren't supposed to ever reveal that you aren't your performing persona 24/7 is the epitome of why 99 percent of the world looks upon wrestling as a whole as one big disgrace.
WOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
DX, one of my favorite stables of all time.
The orginal dx?
Empress Uchiha of course.
I was born in very late 1990 & thankfully Most of my Wrestling Memories aren’t filled with Shawn Michaels on Top, I started with The Nation VS DX with Rock buying Gifts for the Nation n Faarooq getting Kicked out n The Nation VS DX when HHH vs Rock in that IC Ladder Match n the Skits going back n forth are the first things I remember... then Rock Climbing From Nation to the Corporation & Rock n Shamrock were my Favs in Wrestling Cuz I watched a couple UFC Prior To Wrestling...I Think...idk Cuz I watched those UFC on Tape (rented from the Video Store) n So I was lucky to Grow up watching WWF, n I started basically at the beginning of the Attitude Era n Watched it right up till the end then I stopped as I got a Lil older n the only thing I hated was Rock losing both the matches with Stone Cold at Mania, he should have won at 17, but thankfully Stone Cold finally Did a job for Rock at 19 or w/e.. Rock didn’t need to win as much as Stone Cold Cuz he was too over n he constantly put others over also... I’ll Never Forget went I n scene an untelevised event with (Corporate Heel) Rock n Mankind Main Event for the Belt n Mankind Retained n nobody was sitting in the front row by the ramp n me n others rushed it to Tag give 5etc n Rock Played the Heel like a G just ignoring a bunch of 7-11yr olds reaching out for a High 5 n then mankind came barreling down right after n tagged us all up With Mr. Socko Lmao 😂 But I got to see Kane, Shamrock, all DX, Big Show/Paul n many others, pretty much everyone except for Austin(Youngstown wasn’t big enough) n i saw Mankind n Al Snow a couple Years later at the Canfield Fair just wondering around , I didn’t even notice them n I had a rock n sock shirt on n he called me over n just BS with me for a few min, Mankind is the nicest person ever, soo fun n the show I saw was either right before/after The greatest I quit Match ever
Undertaker was hurt during that match
As far as Diesel being the worst drawing champion...why do I have to endure people telling me Bret Hart never drew a time? Nonsensical
There was a reason Shawn wouldn't disrespect Pat...he was Pats boy toy
You don't Fuck with Little Rock, Ar
The card that night was lame .
L.R, Ar is a NWA, WCW Town and
WWE. Tried to pull a fast one and
Got thrown out.
Axl Michaels.
shad covert “Due to the lame ass security, I’m going home!” *mic slam* 😂
Cornette - " D generation X Bullshit ! " Lol
Ok so I started watching wrestling when I was 8 hbk was on top of the world when I was 11 imo that's the age of any kid/man to really be that into wrestling like a fuckin job now that I'm a adult it's still liking the best ever seeing wrestling before and after NO BIAS I've seen way to many people say hbk greatest not from nobody's but from the greatest themselves I wasn't there for Jimi Hendrix i wasn't there for led Zeppelin but I did get to see at my prime of wrestling the best wrestler at the same time 💪🤟❤️
Someone edit these and cut the intro volume back ffs.
“Normal night in Little Rock for Mid-South Wrestling, another case of Shawn Michaels being a pussy/causing shit.” - Jim Cornette
This intro makes me want Wendy's because...im a fatty my heart. And im proud of it.
I think Shawn was blackmailing Vince.
Don't throw stuff at Shawn I guess.
Pulled Sean's hair...no wonder his hairline is receding.
It was a battery from what I heard