LeBron is still better than MJ, The Last Dance doesn't change anything - Shannon | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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- Shannon Sharpe and Skip Bayless sit down to discuss the new episodes of Michael Jordan's documentary 'The Last Dance,' and talk whether LeBron James is better than MJ. Hear why Shannon Sharpe believes that MJ's documentary does not change his stance on LeBron being the GOAT.
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LeBron is still better than MJ, The Last Dance doesn't change anything - Shannon | NBA | UNDISPUTED
• LeBron is still better...
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/ undisputedonfs1 - Sport
Who is the better player: MJ or LeBron?
LeBron
MJ
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED Jordan clearly Shannon just stop this
NO ONE CARES
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED MJ
The funny thing is even if we had sports right now ... this would still be the topic every single day 😂
The only difference would be they would be breaking down every Laker's game.
JuiceGlobal but they be comparing bron playoff game to a documentary
AND you STILL wouldn't be forced to watch! 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
R J I’m a fan of the show sooo and it’s entertaining... take this L. Thought you did something huh😂
@@wpbdog1625 You also not forced to read his comments. Lmao
"At the birth of Michael Jeffery Jordan, I was there" - Skip
dead
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
With the Chicago Tribune
Skip was always there!
😅😅😅
When Shannon said nobody takes shots at Kevin durant I actually laughed out loud
Matthew Balter I know right. KD GETS DRAGGED ALL THE TIME.
he said take shot concerning the goat debate
kevin takes shots for other subjects
José Aldo Júnior P4P#1 but no one claims that he’s the goat. They take shots diminishing his achievements just like they would at Lebron. And by the way it’s IQ not QI so looks like yours isn’t very high.
Matthew Balter that’s exactly Shannon’s point he’s not a threat
I use to think Lebron was the goat, but when I heard about Jordan from my dad and grandpa. I started to watch his game, copy his moves, man I felt like I was watching the god of basketball. It was like poetry in motion, it was like watching a renaissance artist paint a masterpiece.
It’s the feeling everyone gets when watching it some people just deny it or try and suppress those feelings because their guy is far too sensitive
Skip, is that you?
@Dre the G.O.A.T 23 At Choking
@Dre the G.O.A.T 23 lebron is trash compared to goat mj
@@Nick-ru5ex Nick Wright Is That You?
It's just something about 2 3peats in one decade on one team that hits different
Its not what u won its who u beat mj beat abunch of unathletic white boys 🤣😂🤣😂
Some had side jobs and are accountants to this day 🤣😂🤣😂
@@kylejohnson5371 You're an idiot...
It's also about who will be the first to win 3 championships with 3 different teams
Brad Bennett dont engage... he’s a troll
5 lebron jerseys behind him, you know where he stands
You missed one. He has like six 😂😂
He shouldn't even talk about basketball. He's biased.
its all part of the show. do you think he puts those jerseys there by accident? this whole debate show is all about entertainment. these guys are playing personas. the lebron lover and the lebron hater. i wouldnt even be surprised if the writers told him to put the jerseys there. the goat mask he usually wears from time to time is also smth fox realized is popular and so now they tell him to do it 100%. everything is scripted except for maybe the exact words they are using.
telj1 and skip bay less isn’t?
I love seeing people call shannon biased but skips whole career hes been hating on lebron. Shows how biased yall are
MJ was is and will always be the GOAT! that man changed basketball forever! He made basketball players look like rockstars!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
NITISH TOTALLY DISAGREE NO MAGIC NO LARRY NO DAVID STERN NO NBA
always is crazy
it was actually Magic and Bird did it in the 80's the nba was near the end save the nba they had the Lakers and Celtics rivalry Magic 5 rings and Bird 3 rings so they actually saved the nba
Magic and bird made the nba. Jordan popularized basketball because of the dream team
Jordan was poetry in motion... He has so much grace when he moving
Dim Poyl, this is not ballet
DIM POYL one of the most boring players to watch
Bartnicki ? How
Eric Korfhage I watched his games live and he was just boring his movements his playstyle
@@Noname-fr8rz Lmao obvious troll 😂😂😂
“Nothing has changed” as in, we will still compare Lebron in the media because Lebron is still our money maker.
Andrew Big Facts🔥💯
Yup....riding on the controversy to have a career.
@ Andrew agreed sir I'm also starting to think that some of these talking heads are getting there Palm's greased by cluch sport's
@@incogneto2834 The one you clicked on to watch and comment on 🤷🏾♂️
FACTS
Episode 1 & 2
Skip: I was there....
Episode 3 & 4
Skip: I was there....
Episode 5 & 6
Skip: I was there....
Please Jordan, you owe Skip at least one appearance in this documentary 😩
🤣
💯💯💯 I think he saved skip's life or something
😂😂😂
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 skip is just a clout chaser
lol
Grew up watching Jordan. Best I've ever seen, when it comes to any generation!! HANDS DOWN!! 😀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀
"I was there, in 1998, working for the Chicago Tribune".
Bron should be getting royalty checks from Undisputed & ESPN
Rojelio Castro u meant jordan🤣🤣🤣
@@sangyang2627 Both of them tbh
Real talk!!
I love Lebron and also I’m huge fan of this show . Can we stop talking about this topic... it’s like I could predict what Skip is gonna say and what Shannon gonna say. It’s getting old...
Lol that's all they talk about Lebron/Mj & The Cowboys
You can definitely predict what Skip & Shannon will say. They literally make the same arguments, day in and day out 😂😂
I agree. I tired.
Haven’t started the video but I already know what’s gonna happen. Skip is gonna make baffled faces the whole time Shannon talks and when it’s skips turn he’s gonna gloss over every positive accolade Lebron has achieved over his career and make the same cheap points he’s made since this show started (Ray Allen, chosen one becoming frozen one) this show is like if Groundhog Day were turned into a sports talk show and it sucks because I actually like both personalities but whoever comes up with the topics needs to be more original
The Last Dance has amplified it. Unfortunately, this will continue to be a conversation until LeBron retires. Sure, it will still be a conversation, but maybe they will talk about Giannis, Kawhi, and Kevin Durant more. It doesn't help that they aren't playing right now.
This is insane.....I’m convinced that Shannon is on LeBrons payroll....smh .....23/45=🐐
I agree, but you could definitely say the same about Skip & MJ.
But according to Skip bron barely a top 10. He def top 5
COONHUNTER #1 he said on a Terrell Owens talk show that he used to be a MJ and Kobe fan over Lebron so I def think he getting paid for having the Shannon vs skip dynamic and being someone to strongly support Lebron as Goat
I agree with Skip Bayless. Poor Shannon Sharpe, he keeps screaming. And Shannon Sharpe can't stand that Skip hit everything on the button. Michael Jordan is the greatest of all times. Your missing that Michael Jordan told him not to do that. Shannon is showing he's a Hypocrite.
I'm 20 and didn't get to see him but just watching the documentary it makes me see Jordan as even more iconic than I did before. Especially when he was playing golf with Danny Ainge and he told someone to tell Ainge he got something for him. Drops 63 points playoff record after that episode I went and watch that whole game. I don't think I've ever seen a performance like that ever especially in the playoffs.
King James l But MJ lost that game..
Jordan Garrison But Yet your name is Jordan 🤦🏻♂️
King James l I think MJ is the Goat and Lebron is 2nd in my opinion. Imagine Lebron playing golf with an opponent in the playoffs? They media would have a field day. I say as long as you do your job who cares.
bruno ruvalcaba what’s your point exactly? I didn’t name myself when I was born buddy lol.
Jordan Garrison All Good Buddy ‼️
My favorite quote about MJ is from Magic Johnson:
“There’s Michael Jordan, and then there’s the rest of us.” So simple, yet it says so much
@ suntansuperman8 agreed that about sums it up for me
SuntanSuperman8 And Magic is not a random guy. 5 titles !! Best point guard of all time.
One could say that's his way of rationalizing losing to a guy, once he was past his prime, that the Lakers routinely spanked before they got old. I wonder if Magic would've said the same thing if he'd still had his Prime Time Lakers and Kareem vs Vlade Divac. Bird praised him while simultaneously sweeping him twice. I just think anyone saying anybody is the GOAT when they haven't competed against the best in their primes is presumptive.
@@csd8204 Magic was 32 and was still in his prime, albeit the tail end of his prime.
I saw Jordan twice in person playing with the Bulls. He was great but his Legend Greating to be Paul Bunyan Size is getting out of hand!
Losing to pistons 3times
Losing to only super team he faced Celtics sweep.
Losing to Orlando.
Paxton hit game winner vs phx in finals Jordan not even in the picture(someone else gets killed 4 that)
No Phil Jackson or triangle or scottie pippen developing does Jordan get past Detroit?
He had flaws.
Magic was posting 23 up and scoring in 91' finals. Pippen comes to save the series and guards Magic full court. Turing the series around.
Knicks up 2 - 0 Jordan gambles all night.
Goes ..... 3 FOR 18 !!!! Bulls still win!
(Someone else would get killed 4 that)
MJ = 🐐 period
Non-killer mentality, flopping, recruiting best possible players, FTs and finals losses..thats the main things ppl always gotta say bout bron. When u great they gotta nitpick something cuz its "the cool thing to do" i guess..
@Desmond Hackney boy wtf is u taumbout? I said "ppl have sed" aka criticize him for..it dont matta wat bron said..that aint wat im tawkn bout.
@Desmond Hackney Jordan was part of the greatest teams ever.
@Desmond Hackney Weaker era lol. The pistons and Knicks would skullfuck LeBron.
@@HaHa-vy9ct Lebron is almost 3in taller, almost 75lbs heavier and faster than mike...he woulda been ok in that era. Good players adapt.
@@OG_predatorproductionz He's not 3 inch taller he's not 75 pounds heavier and he's not faster.
He was 25 pounds heavier and 1 inch taller. Jordan was faster and more explosive. Higher vertical. And LeBrons mentality could not handle the pistons or the Knicks in the 80s and 90s. He couldn't handle an old 6.2 foot Terry in his absolute prime. He would not handle the bad boys if they enacted the LeBron rules.
I’ll take Charles Barkley, Bird, Magic saying Jordan is the greatest over Shannon Sharpe.
Jack Locke not to mention Dwayne Wade who’s seen first hand and is a close friend of Lebron.
TheRaidernation33 And LeBron’s coach.
Neither of them played against Lebron. I respect Magic but he and Jordan are close. You might want to fact check this, but I believe Bird said that Lebron is the greatest player he has ever seen. Isiah Thomas ranks Lebron higher than Jordan too. I'll take Shannon's take over Skip. At least Shannon is a hall of famer and champion.
@@user-hb9ig4fx9p "Isiah Thomas ranks LeBron higher" I wonder why 🤔🤣
I have yet to see a football player provide actual great commentary of basketball. You do not see basketball players talking football but you see a lot of football players talking basketball.
Poor Shannon, he’s defeated but he’s still swinging, in that corner 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, for a Football Hall of Famer trying to talk Basketball, only to Strike Out Swinging like a Baseball player... Lol!
@@J_Ru31352 facts 😂
Lmao
Swinging at his own shadow
Badly defeated and getting angry😂😂
God: So there I was creating existe..:
Skip: I was there
LMAO
The last dance was with the wizard
Whatever Shannon smoking I need 50 tons of that ish.. I'ma bout to get my El Chapo on..
I haven’t even watched it yet, someone tell me did skip say : Michael Jeffery Jordan, or I was there??
yezzur lmao
😂😂😂
How come skip say he was there every step of the way and this dude ain't in none of the doc. 🤔
Gary Hampton hes working for fox now
Don't forget "I never seen anything quite like it"
Shannon my grandmother always told me, “son, don’t ever let your emotions blind the facts!!!” Shay Shay must have had a heart breaking experience with Jordan like Isiah Thomas. Let it go Shannon, stop fighting it
@Wade Albury THANK YOU!! I'm so sick of these Skip-haters just going with Shannon on this RIDICULOUS notion that Lbj is anywhere close to being as great as MJ. FOH!
Empty Calories for Lebron can you imagine what Kareem, Bird and Jordan's stats would be like in this soft no contact League
lebron would smoke jordan and the bulls.
@@tytytyme33 couldnt smoke Jason Terry and the Mavs!!
Darnell TheArtist we don’t hate skip we just accept the facts and are open to the idea that someone might actually be better than Jordan🤷♂️ LBJ is better
Shannon must don't remember LeBron in the 2014 final couldn't beat the same team twice Jordan did
He was going against the Tim Duncan era spurs thats not a fair comparison
Must don't???
That 2nd finals against the spurs D Wade nor Chris Bosh were the same player as they used to be. Both were declining in terms of production. Plus that spurs team is an all time great team. Duncan, Kawhi who was on the come up that year, Parker, Ginobili, Danny green, patty mills was a knockdown 3pt shooter and popovich who is an all time great coach. Lebron goat James was trying to carry the whole squad by himself.
@@demontiakpinkney5881 and jordan didn’t leave for another team like lebron did. He kept working and got better until he eventually SWEPT the same pistons team and went on a dynastic 6-0 run. Lebron will always be known as the player who jumped ship when things became difficult.
Basketball used to be like hockey without the ice 😂
In today's NBA everyone can actually play and show off their skills
And they also show where they lack. Always 2 sided to the coin.
@@ericjordan6059 lack??? They play 200 games at top speed can we all be that active
Bo Rerun in the 80s not the 90s which is why Jordan one trash defense back then
@@Noname-fr8rz 90's sucked too all team sucked expect the big markets now all teams have great players back then basketball was slow
Skips face when Shannon start gettin loud about bron🤣
A 3-6 finals record finals record just doesn’t scream goat. Mj prevented so many superstars from getting a ring in their prime, while many got a ring at LeBrons expense.
Too many people either forget or let him off the hook for the 2011 Finals. That kind of choke is still unbelievable for someone of Lebron's status.
@@Thundergodxix if lebron had his average stats that series, they sweep em
That's cause MJ was selfish. Lebron "wants" to share the NBA title with his opponents. Lol
*LeBron:* One day Imma catch Jordan in shoe sales...
*Kanye:* Not so fast, King.
Jordan brand. Yeezy brand. lebron has a shoe deal with Nike.
@@mjmj6568 lebron has a BILLION DOLLAR shoe deal with Nike"
@@thetunkmaster And still he aint touching MJ.
lebron (the person) signed a lifetime deal with Nike estimated to pay him $1B by the time he's about 64. He earned $32M in 2019. He's 35 now. Do the math.
Jordan (the brand) grossed $3.14B in 2019. Jordan (the person) earned $130M in 2019...4 times more than lebron and his $32M.
By the time lebron see $1B...MJ will have $4B. Brand vs "BILLION DOLLAR deal". 🤡🤡🤡
@@thetunkmaster YOU lose😐
therealtunkmaster Clown
Skip Bayless is the GOAT.
Remember, Michael Jordan never had to team up with another superstar to get his first 3 rings. Facts!
Pippen ain’t a superstar?
Thomas Lurz is that a rhetorical question?
You said Jordan never had to team up when he couldn’t even make it out the first round without pippen
@@thomaslurz420 Pippen was drafted and got hurt his first season and the early pippen was nowhere near the player he ended up being and he only was "Pippen" because of MJ!!!!!! How many did he win without MJ?
William Simmons thank you bro ✊🏽. I rest my case.
You'd figure Skip would be somewhere in that Last Dance footage
not really. he was reporting but not on the network so I wouldn't be surprised if he like a lot of other ppl wouldn't be on the footage. but the series aint over yet ;)
Darnell TheArtist /"whoosh"/ it's called sarcasm fam
The last dance has not changed anything they’re right. Jordan was always the goat
Bossatron kobe
@@davodhashimi3809
Kobe is MJ light. Very good. But not better than MJ at anything. Just suuuper close imo.
@@davodhashimi3809 Kobe is the closest thing. The only person that got true recognition and respect from MJ. Those the only 2 that should ever be in discussion together. And not in comparison either as Big brother Lil Brother
Jordan had the one thing Lebron has never had. Phil Jackson. Or a coach of that calibre. There’s a reason why Jordan didn’t want to come back if Phil wasn’t there. You didn’t hear him say if Pippen doesn’t come back he isn’t back. No. But he said that about Phil. Phil to LA after and did the same thing again with Kobe and Shaq. People need to open there eyes
@@davodhashimi3809 kobe didnt strike fear into his opponents like mj
That was the saddest argument for LeBron I’ve ever heard 😂 some people just can’t handle the truth and the fact that LeBron is the only person in any conversation about being the GOAT has referred to himself as the GOAT which is just a disrespectful thing to do MJ & Kobe have never said or ever referred to themselves as such LeBrons a joke case closed
"Chosen one" became the "frozen one." 😂 priceless...
"Big bank takes lil bank?" You just proved Skip's point. When people stop lining up to wear Jordan's shoes, maybe. But dude is worth over 2 billion and I don't see many people lining up to wear LeBrons over Jordans.
I don't think they ever will, Jordan is so much better, and ofc his shoes are leagues better
There is NO “debate” PERIOD!!!!!! The GOAT is CLEARLY, BY FAR Michael Jordan.
Seems to be a debate to me. All we hear are debates.
Mervin Morgan, Jr. A manufacturered one, sure.
So you think jordan could dunk on wily chamberlain? Be real now.
@@JamilMusicLoverSingleton He dunked on Dikembe who is 2nd in all time blocks, and his taller than Wilt. You can't say it wouldn't be possible.
If he is, it isn’t far.. js
It really sucks that Espn/fox barely are even discussing the actual documentary itself but are using it to just continuously debate MJ or Bron. Lol is it that hard to just appreciate the film for what it is without the stupid goat debate😂😂
ShowTimeGaming thank you!!! Thank you!!! I been saying that! 👌🏾👌🏾
ShowTimeGaming son, is that too much to ask for 😂😂! They can’t help themselves but include lebron in EVERYTHING
It's mind boggling
Its starting to amaze me this show is still alive on. Literally the same topics every day for 3 years with updates of every game lebron plays to then ask same questions again.
1988
Won scoring title
All Star MVP
Defensive Player of the Year
League MVP
Case closed - Michael Jordan GOAT
Sincerely,
Proud Knicks fan
Thanks for doing this debate. You guys hardly talk about it.
Jordan must've hit one of Shannon's chicks before the way he be hating 😂
You're not making sense!
@@ubilicious1887 he is you just don't get it
Mack Boney Aka Kushthoughts Podcast and LeBron with skips wife right ? Since he hating too
Josh Meza is there a problem with that ?
Shannon’s hating?? Do you not hear how much skip talks about lebron?
Imagine thinking a guy who is 3-6 in the finals, has many flop compilations on CZcams, got outscored by a bench player Jason Terry in the finals, only beating 15+ 50 win teams in the playoffs in 17 years a 🐐. Jordan beat 20 in 15 years, Kobe beat 25 and beat the team that sent him to Cleveland with 1 all-star and a broken finger. LeBron beat nobodies in 9 stra8 years in the east to get to the finals. Changed teams 3 times😒🤣🤣🤣🤣
Southeast Daygo619 plus Lebron can’t even shoot free throws
@Joshua LeFranc You need to learn how to comprehend when you read. It says in 9 years of nobodies in the east to get to the finals. Go back to elementary school!
Imagine a guy his first 2 seasons puts up records of below 500. But still is blessed enough to have made the playoffs despite that loses 3 years in a row in the 1st round.. the goat losing in 1st rd that’s the beginning of the playoffs that doesn’t even sound right your the best ever but you lost in the beginning of the playoffs 3 years in a row GOAT 7 lost series in the playoffs vs 6 finals losses now if I put myself in there position I personally would have preferred to take my team to the highest level before I lose vs getting my team to the first round and losing or losing before I even get to the finals now my season is over early
@@mr.anderson1562 You're comparing a guy that had to play hall of fame teams (Boston, Detroit) when he had no help until he got pippen. To a guy when facing a Hall of fame team in Boston made him leave to Miami. I know Jordan never lost a final, never got outscored by a bench player in the finals, never got swept twice 🤣🤣🤣🤣go sit down. The only thing you bronsexuals can bring up is before Jordan had help. Meanwhile LeBron lost 4 chips on a superteam...... Flops what goat flops...
Southeast Daygo619 he never lost to Shaq and penny in his prime??? While having pippen? the teams were even and he still lost in 1995 he wasn’t even better then Shaq that year guess what he does though? He goes and gets Dennis Rodman one of the best defenders and rebounders of all time y’all never mention that he never had to leave cuz he got the players he needed
I am glad The Last Dance came out. It gave younger viewers, for the first time, a clear window into the world of Michael Jordan, from the perspective of people who saw everything up close and personal. This documentary literally changed the momentum and scope of the GOAT debate.
Is 23 Lebrons number or Jordans? I think we all know.
It's definitely the true 🐐 number..his initials are not LJ..don't think I need to say more😂😅😁
@@genebaranowski2327 PREACH!!!
Goat James, LBJ is a threat to MJ's legacy and his boomer fans are scared
@Tyrone jacobs jr in what was has he pasted Mj ? In year played I’ll give you that that’s it
Is Space Jam LeBron's movie or Jordans? I think we also all know.
Shannon is just doing it for the fans.
We all know he chooses MJ against LeBron in his mind 😁💪
Eldric Fandialan then why do he have so many lebron jersey. He don’t buy them for nothing be loves lebron
@@davodhashimi3809 obviously he became a bronsexual, but he is just too in love with LeBron to admit MJ is still the GOAT
Eldric Fandialan mj is not the goat stop it
@@davodhashimi3809 not even gonna debate you with that, but you cant change my mind MJ is the goat
I agree. Shannon doesn't seem like he really believes LeBron is the GOAT. He just likes to put on a show. That doesn't mean he doesn't like or love LeBron, it just means he's over exaggerating how good he is.
Lebron is overrated... he´s for me in 9th place... just after MJ, Kareem, Bill, Magic, Larry, Kobe, Tim, Wilt... and before Hakeem in 10th !!
U must be 50 years of age 🤣
that’s absurd
@@carrio1232 I' m 23.
@@finaldestination5847 You're a very smart YOUNG MAN
@@seanwilson8168 thank you... most people who judge this, have no idea how good MJ and other greats were in the past... their world is very small !!
Shannon is almost as angry as Stephen A Smith when talking about the Knicks.
Not even close..
lol
Anger to cover up ... Poor Shannon 😂😂
I’m a Shannon Sharpe fan, but I know in his heart of hearts that he knows Jordan is better than LeBron. He’s just playing a character defending LeBron at this point.
He is. His Instagram followers went through the roof when he rebranded himself as a lebron fanboy.
He is sincere and LeBron is better than Jordan as an all around team player because it's a team game so that's how we should look at it.
Shawn Shell no he thinks Lebron the goat 🐐 😂
Seriously I Know by ur logic cp3 John stockon and Rondo are better than Jordan....
Funny, skip is the one who spends his entire existence hating on lebron but u interpret it as Shannon is the character smh
Shannon: Im 3-0 in the superbowl, better than Tony Gonzalez even with all his stats. “You played for a lot of teams that lost in the first round” per shannon to tony on an episode.
Also Shannon: Rings arent everything, we have to look at the body of work.
What makes his argument worse is that rings mean more in the NBA because one man can have a much more impact on a team then a player in the NFL. One player on a NFL team isn't really enough to help a team go from .500 to a super bowl contender.
One player in the NBA can do that. Also Shannon has failed to realize that ever since Lebron went to the Heat he had the easiest path to the finals. His teams was loaded with talent compared to the teams he was facing in the playoffs. One can argue the reason GSW lost is because they got worn down just getting to the finals while the Cavs were resting and sweeping all the teams on their way to the finals.
MikeBNumba6 Thank u that’s why I don’t listen to football players talking hoops they always try to equate the two sports and u can’t
@@MikeBNumba6 I credited LeBron a lot for getting to the finals in 2018, but at the same time he told the front office that he wanted the players that surrounded him that season and he quit on them in the finals. That is not a GOAT's mentality
R S lmao First, you cant compare NBA to NFL, where one player can take you to the promise land (Allen Iverson is a clear example). Second, the point was that Shannon thinks he is the best at his position simply because of his 3 SB rings. When talking to or about Tony, thats his go to. While he did transform the TE position, tell me who out there would say that Tony G is NOT the GOAT of TEs even with ZERO rings? So why says LeBron only winning 3 and not 6 like MJ with 6 MVPs doesnt matter? Thats why when hes trapped in the ring argument, he automatically brings up Bill Russell with 11.
@@Davidsl1991 Someone brings up rings and Bill Russell is the GOAT, but if he talks about stats, I'd tell him to look up Wilt Chamberlain's resume and say he's the GOAT. This isn't how the GOAT debate should be made tho
I need some of that stuff Shannon Sharpe getting high on. This must been a super green room🤣😂🤣
Boooooooooooo! COMING FROM A GUY W/ 5 LEBRON JERSEYS BEHIND!
Israel Vasquez I’m saying 😂🤣🤣🤣
It's very clear and obvious that Shannon is being paid by Lebron and his camp to say this.
Brando so lebron haters pay skip to be a lebron hater too then
@@davodhashimi3809 Negative. We don't have that kind of cash. I bet you see Shannon in Space Jam. 😂
Brando same with u with skip
Truth hurts. Everything Shannon has said can be fact checked
Davod Hashimi I’m pretty sure even Lebron haters don’t agree with anything skip says
Shannon what about bird dropping 37 on rodman
Skip nice try 😂😂😭💀
He never respond to stuff like this 😂😂 he always has little arguments like this for lebron but whenever Shannon bring up something from a individual game he never acknowledges It he just will be like “okay but what about that meltdown in 2011 & vs Boston he needed to be SEDATED before game 5”
Bird is more skilled than Lebron 1-on-1. Rodman was talking about picking him up on D.
@@Ch3zzy you really just say this bro bird probably a better scorer but better skills brudda?
Yes better skills/scorer.
I believe LeBron is a better scorer top 3 all time and he ain't done yet
Skip, stop saying "I was there" in every video. No one cares if you were there.
Yes we do
It definitely adds some more value. Signed the press or court side seats.
Simplest shot in basketball is the free throw. Who do you want at the line to win the game? Hmmm?
Everyone cares you mommas boy basement dweller
That how you get receipts. Shannon is speaking thru pure emotions
6:42 that's what they said about Oscar Robertson and all he did was retire at #1 in assist and 2nd in scoring behind Wilt.
Shannon, keep the same energy when you see Michael in person.
I bet after this. LeShannon couldn't even look Jordan in the eyes
Shannon saying “his mom had to make a grown man take a meeting with Nike” and bringing up the wizards years - lol he big mad. Every Sunday his soul gets crushed.
Enjoy the Last Dance for a couple more weeks. After that it's back to reality; GOAT James is still here and MJ is still retired.
@@Jukeboxster Correction. That is NOPE James. Better than Mike, NOPE. DPOY? NOPE. The GOAT? NOPE. Plays his best on defense most of the time? NOPE
But is true
@@Jukeboxster L3-6ron will continue his legacy of combining his talents and losing in the Finals.
@@Jukeboxster faxxxx lol
Where's that Jordan meme of him laughing cuz picture that when people say LeBron is better than MJ.
Shannon has the basketball knowledge of a man who dedicated his all to football
😂😂😂 that’s why football players should not y’all basketball
When Kobe says MJ is the goat MJ is the goat. He seen and played against both of them at there very best and if what Kobe has seen from Lebron isnt enough then i believe the mamba
I believe my own eyes. The games were televised.
Nope kobe never played lebron in the finals nore jordan so he hasnt played them at their best. Rip to the mamba but he word is not law its opinion like everybody else.
Lebron killed mamba constantly finals or not Kobe not messing with lebron
But LeBron 16-5 against LeBron. Also Kobe wasn't in his prime when he was playing against mj. Last two years of mj career he wasnt the same player. So I'm not sure why would u even bring up that he play against both. 8 games. The first two game Kobe was a rookie and got 5 points. Next season he was sophomore. The next 4 games was mj last 2 season. Kobe prime never play against prime mj Also first four games Shaq was definite the best player on the team. We did see LeBron play against LeBron prime LeBron. Before he went to miami he was winning against Kobe 🤷🏿♂️
La' Maze Johnson well one of shannons main arguements is the tv doesnt do them justice haha
Shannon really is starting to sound ridiculous these days
Marcellus Barnes you mean skip
How?? Lebron is better
Marcellus Barnes He’s on Lebron’s payroll, Bro. No way a grown man talk like this without getting paid for it
🤦its difficult to watch sometimes.
Shannon has been sounding ridiculous for years in reference to LeBum. People just failed to realize it.
It’s really funny how for years skip has brought up how he was there and acted like he was an insider, anyone seen skip in any scenes? I’ve seen him 1 time in a group of about 25 reporters, doesn’t really seem like a insider to me.
In what episode you saw Skip? I've been trying to catch Skip since he always claiming he been near MJ but i haven't seen him in the documentary
@@ChipDouglas10 Thats because the documentary is about MJ not a reporter lol
I thought the same thing. ESPN icing him out lol.
Skip was there when Shannon was conceived
@@ChipDouglas10 I’m sorry, I really don’t remember. But I saw him one time in a group.
6 rings MJ. 6 losses LBJ loooool😂
At Shannon: CMON MAN! I’m a fan of Lebron but he gots nothing on MJ. I saw MJ play his whole career. It’s not even close. RESPECT MJ
You are not a lebron fan stop it
When the show started in 2016 shannon said lebron needed 5 ring 5 finals mvps and 5 mvps since then hes lost 2 finals hasn't made the finals and has no mvps what's chanced since then for him to change his tune
Ibrahim Kante Don’t let the original comment get to your feelings 🙂, but to your response: yes I am. Huge fan! Much respect but not blind. You must be a generation Z or Millennial but blind. Take care
@bob johnson if he had the Zen Master in his corner would be a different story
@@isaacnitta4133 you can't run the triangle with Lebron he has the ball to much basically you can't run no offense with Lebron that's why he 3-6 in the finals
Skip "I was there" Bayless for the 3rd week in a row
Skip is old
I've yet to see Skip in a clip on this.
Exactly can I see like one pic of you somewhere
Ben Jones Skip is old af & been in the game forever so I mean 🤷♂️
GOAT's dont copy. 23 = mj aka the GOAT
Damn if Shannon add a Kobe and MJ Jersey it'll actually really dope back drop.
No uncle Shay, people ain’t coming at Lebron because he’s a threat. They coming at him because he had the audacity to crown himself the GOAT.
He never crowned himself the GOAT though
mj did too
Kareem Royal Sure he did. What do you think "Chosen 1" tat, #23 appropriation, and predicting to win 8 championships with Wade in MIA was about? Mad props to his leading the Cavs comeback against 2016 Warriors, and him elevating his game since, but the rest of his career is a series of unrealized predictions. MJ flew to the sun and came back unscathed, Bron decided to fly too close and burnt his wings.
@@g0rsk13g4n9st4 he was the chosen one though... I don't think that's the same as saying he's the goat but that's your opinion
@@g0rsk13g4n9st4 the #23 was a sign of respect but y'all want to hate on him like always
How you call yourself the goat when you disappeared in the 2011 finals. Guarded by Jason Terry & JJ Barea. Jordan 6 finals MVP's, end of discussion.
And than lost again 3 years later. Joined 2 stars and lost 2 out of 4..
Jordan played with a flu scored 35pts, lebron scored 8 what's his excuse?
NoiNoi Poblacion Jordan played with a “stomach flu” not the flu just saying.
@@edwarddavid-bermudez4553 still got his 35pts
David Johnson Jordan also had the pistons beat and lost game 7 cause pippen had a headache ! Lol
Lebron James already hirt his non perfect resume with finals losses that will never be removed. To still try and compare him to Michael Jordan shows only the weak have been speaking.
Make a comparing video of MJ and LeBron dunking during the game. LeBron is a one leg jumper and one hand and pose dunker. That's it. Nothing more. MJ is like high class ballet in basketball. You never stop keeping amazed how the Black Jesus can do things he had done in grace, plastic and glory. Gosh how I miss a player like MJ today...
6’9 260lb freak of nature
“But can he stop Jason Terry”
Lmao size doesn’t determine everything
Lol right. To me this argument went out the window when he lost that Finals.
@@bradbennett4237 it did go out the window when he lost lol
Don't be mad because Bron is GOAT haa ha .. Crazy part is Bron is still gone be stacking his resume for another 5 years .. Ant nobody gonna be talking about MJ in another 20 years like that .. His resume just won't measure up to Bron's .. If Bron gets one or two more rings with the Lakers, then the conversation will really be over & that's facts ..
@@jordanleebrown5403 not even close
@@jordanleebrown5403 lol nothing is gonna take away those 6 losses. He can play for 30 years and have 8 championships. He's still not the better player. Longetivity doesn't make you the better player. It just pads your stats and that's all Lebron can beat Jordan in. The best doesn't lose 6 times. Nice try though 🙂
Shannon you do realize that Jordan technically played 11 full seasons in Chicago & he still accomplished more in those 11 seasons then LeBron has in his 17 seasons
@Mauricio Leal When did he have a team full of HOFers?
@Mauricio Leal 1 hall of famer first 3 titles 2 for second 3 peat
@Mr. Marshall Ray Allen gonna be a hall of famer.
Do you realize LeBron is a pass first player. That's unheard of with his stats.
@@jamest1429 so he shouldn't be compared to Jordan then
Good example of the impact of all those concussions NFL players get.
I've Said That About Lisp Man Sharpe Forever Gate Of Divine.
Camel Tongue Sharpe Shouldn't Be Able To Even Comment On BBall, Since He's This Incompetent.
CTE Is Real!!!
Im a big lbj fan but mj was and will always be the 🐐
Basically the Jordan Brand doesn’t slip the money to uncle Shay like Clutch sports 😂
Mj_tha3rd yea ion get it, he’s evangelical Mike had the build up then crescendo. LBJ suffered from MJs greatness but if it happened in reverse order, it would be moot point that JORDAN is the Billy Goat.
$amSon your comment make zero sense
Shannon says “you lose, you lose, go home”? Everytime Lebron loses he gives excuses...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
LEX both MJ and Bron fans are hypocrites
Or changes teams
LEX still hypocrites
LEX stop crying.😢
And yes. lebron airballed multiple freethrows.💩💀
Skip saying "...before he passed" when referring to Kobe still seem unreal. 😥😥😥
Shannon is a great actor. ^_^
He could convince some people that he believes what hes talking about for the sake of the show.
Shannon been on defense since the last dance. Let it go, bro!!
He's looking real stupid to me....
He’s doing to much to try to prove lebron is better when he is not better then Jordan. He brings up irrelevant points to try to bring Jordan down to lift lebron up.
@@kenyonmckee2268 he is better than MJ tho not close
@@brandontaylor2039 dude has more losses then wins but he’s the best ever how that make sense?
The Last Dance isn't just a reunion party 🎉 for all of us who saw MJ play. It's not only a lifetime achievement award ceremony for him. It's a greater appreciation for all the players who played in that era.
I think it's nuts how MJ was instantly recognized as the best by his peers
Comparing MJ to LBJ is like comparing Jerry Rice to Shannon. They don't belong in the same conversation.
the argument that can never be solved - they did not (and can not) play each other in their prime - it is just opinion. Why can't we just admire the greatness each of these players without having to classify and quantify their talent
This doesn’t change anything for me either LeShannon - There was never a debate, and there will never be a debate. There is only 1 goat and his name is Michael Jordan 🐐
I always wonder... Why Shannon always hated Michael? 😂
Amen.
It’s so disrespectful to compare that bum. Preach skip. Give people this word 🙏🏿
J Snowman Skip is a bum 😂😂 so if you getting info from him you and idiot 🤷🏾♂️😂😂
MVPS: Jordan : 5, Lebron: 4
Chips: Jordan: 6, Lebron: 4
Finals MVPS: Jordan: 6, Lebron: 4
Scoring Titles: Jordan: 10, Lebron: 1
DPOTY: Jordan: 1, Lebron: 0
All D first team: Jordan: 9, Lebron: 5
Steals Titles: Jordan: 3, Lebron: 0
Finals Losses: Jordan: 0, Lebron: 6
Number of NBA finals shooting under 30% from
the 3pt line: Jordan: 0, Lebron: 2(2007,2012)
Number of NBA finals scoring + assisting 50% of
the team points(assuming all assists = 2 points)
Jordan: 3(1991,1993,1997) - The only player in NBA history to
have done this multiple times.
Lebron: 1(2015)
Championships without a 20 ppg scorer in playoffs:
Jordan: 4, Lebron: 1
Jordan's finals opponents average wins: 61.2
LeBrons finals opponents average wins: 60.8
P.E.R(player efficiency rating):
Jordan - led the league 7 times in P.E.R. Also finished top three 10 times in P.E.R.
Regular season career avg P.E.R 27.9(1st in NBA history) and playoff career avg
P.E.R 28.6(1st in NBA history)
LeBron - led the league 6 times in P.E.R. Also finished top three 9 times in P.E.R.
Regular season career avg P.E.R 27.5(2nd in NBA history). playoff career avg
P.E.R 28.3(3rd in NBA history)
Win Shares:
Jordan - led the league 8 times. Also finished top three 11 times. WS/48mins regular
season career avg .2505(1st in NBA history), WS/48mins playoff career avg
.2553(1st in NBA history)
LeBron - led the league 5 times. Also finished top three 6 times. WS/48mins regular
season career avg .2345(6th in NBA history), WS/48mins playoff career avg
.2436(3rd in NBA history).
Box Plus Minus:
Jordan - led the league 10 times. Also finished top three 11 times. Regular season
career avg 9.22(1st in NBA history), playoff career avg 11.14(1st in NBA
history).
LeBron - led the league 5 times. Also finished top three 10 times. Regular season
career avg 8.94(2nd in NBA history), playoff career avg 10.16(2nd in NBA
history)
Value Over Replacement Player:
Jordan owns 6 out of the 9 greatest seasons ever played.
LeBron owns 2 out of the 9 greatest seasons ever played.
Jordan - VORP per game regular season career avg .1083(1st in NBA history), playoff
career avg .1382(1st in NBA history)
LeBron - VORP per game regular season career avg .1059(2nd in NBA history) playoff
career avg .1289(2nd in NBA history)
All time small forward rankings: (500 game min)
LeBron - Points 2nd, Assists 1st, Rebounds 12th, Steals 9th, Blocks 17th, FG% 17th,
FT% 107th.
All time shooting guard rankings: (500 game min)
Jordan - Points 1st, Assists 4th, Rebounds 3rd, Steals 3rd, Blocks 3rd, FG% 9th, FT%
34th.
Clutch Shooting:(5secs to go in a game or overtime) Career Regular and Playoffs.
LeBron - 19 out of 94 for 20%
Jordan - 25 out of 50 for 50%
Stop comparing GREATNESS to MEDIOCRE
2:51 Skip proved what I've thought. Jordan gets style points. But I've always said that this is basketball not ballet. It's about putting the ball through the hoop and no one did it better than Kareem Abdul Jabber the all-time leader in field goals made a record that will never be broken, the all-time leading scorer for the last 36 years and only 6 time MVP in NBA history.
Respect To Kareem
And nobody did that better than Mike! Kareem’s record is based on years he played… 7 more seasons than Mike! SEVEN! And he still only has 4,000 more. Jordan is the best scorer ever! Best career avg ever! Most scoring titles ever! Stop the nonsense bro.
@@bruceleroy2335 that’s your opinion it’s no facts saying he is the best scorer ever !! All the evidence and Facts say otherwise
@@kevenrowe2958 Why would I waste my time talking to someone leaving a comment as dumb as yours…
When it's taking you over 17 years to compile a case to be greater than that someone who accomplished more than you in less than 13 years......it's not even a case
this comment need more like that is deserve
What Jordan do without pippen😂😂
Marques Jenson not a damn thing
@@alter3426 Jordan built Pippen to who he became.
@@marquesjenson6479 that's like saying who is lebron without a teammate.
Shannon looking for anything to attack Skip Bayless. Because as usual Shannon is losing the argument again. Skip has too much knowledge on Michael Jordan by covering him for so long. His insight on this matter is invaluable.
Shannon's insistence on Lebron being the goat not only damages his credibility but it makes you realize if he can be so wrong about MJ, it also makes you wonder what else is he wrong about? I can't say this about Skip too often on a lot of things but on this topic I'm with Skip all the way on this one. MJ is the GOAT and in my opinion there are others who are closer to MJ than Lebron i.e. Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Bill Russell, Kobe Bryant, Wilt Chamberlain. I have not watched one episode of The Last Dance and Lebron can pad his stats for another 3 years and it still would not change my opinion on him one bit. Lebron's resume still could not compare to 6 for 6 Finals Championships and 6 Finals MVP awards. Case closed. I realize that from time to time for the sake of interest, the game of basketball needs this kind of thing, but this case should never have been open for discussion. Lebron is not even runner up in my opinion.
He is debateable for 2nd best but people who claim he is the 2nd best player by far are really stupid.
How you gonna be the GREATEST of ALL TIME with a losing record in the finals?
Play good competition
RINGS are a TEAM accolade. Be scientific.
Exactly
Messi and Ronaldo dont have a world cup. Either did Beckham in his prime. People still say laver over federer yet feds got much more championships. The list can go on. I still think mj is better than lbj but i put Kareem just above mj.
@@redboy09100 He lost to JJ Barera and Jason Terry and The Dallas Mavericks when he had one Superstar and an All Star on his team on top of that The Heat were favorite to win the series LeBron himself called the Heat a superteam !!! Their are always excuses for Lebum
“I love it when your backed into a corner you change the subject” Skip does that ALL THE TIME Lmaoo,
“We gobbling up mike” is crazy 😂
I feel for both of these guys. It’s not healthy for grown men to have this much of an obsession with other grown men. Skip with MJ, and even more for Shannon with Lebron. Dude literally has several jerseys hanging in his room
They make millions doing this lmao
Larry Bird was less athletic than LeBron, but more skilled and poised
BIG CAP
Because Shannon hasn't played he doesn't know it's much harder to defend a shooter than an athletic swing man. Thats why neither MJ nor Kobe nor Pippen liked guarding Reggie Miller and to anyone's amazement MJ had more success against guys like Russell and Anderson than he did Horneseck.
Omg more skilled Lmao u don’t know basketball
meg like u do?? Stop actin like u know any more than shannon. The dude for sure knows sports
Bird > Lebron
The fact that LeBron had to change teams to win tells us who is the GOAT, MJ all the way
Koh Daryl duh he had to if he wanted a ring Cleveland wasn’t gonna give him no help
@@bean3294 by chasing all stars
Do you think he would have won staying in Cleveland his whole career
@@bean3294 that's the thing, do you think you will be considered the GOAT if you need to look for a team to allow you to win? if you are the GOAT, you will be able to at least carry a team on your back and attract the talents to join u in the process and win. Tough to say whether he would have won if he stayed through his whole career because he LEFT to look for a team that had stars and shy away from that challenge of staying.
@@bean3294 didn't he win at Cleveland in the end when he returned after chasing and using other stars to win? they were already stars to begin with, Lebron didn't make them better. MJ made his teammates better, pushing his teammates to go back for preseason trainings when they could go on vacation. Due to this fact, Lebron will remain in the same league as Kevin Durant, always a league below MJ.
Shannon I still haven't found no running back or football players from 80s and 90s and basketball players was better and just a joy to watch. I don't give a damn what nobody say.
you know how you can tell who is right in an argument? the other side is yelling for no apparent reason.