Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Michael Jordan & The GOAT Conversation
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- čas přidán 27. 03. 2019
- THE ODD COUPLE - Chris Broussard and Rob Parker react to Kobe being forced by cow tongue to take a stand on the GOAT discussion between him, LeBron and Jordan. They also talk in depth about LeBron calling himself the GOAT.
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Kobe is so disrespected by the media it’s not even funny
Purple Pancake a rape allegation can do that to you smh
Not really it just seems that way because fans overrated him
rell man I was gonna say that that’s literally all it is
@@rell3500 yup
Media been hated Kobe since Colorado
Wait Kobe gets penalized for having Shaq but Lebron gets a pass for having Irving avg 27ppg in a finals series?
....and hit the winning shot
@@MrDasilva8383 and dominated along with cleaning up the bricks Kobe was throwing up
Kyrie ant shaq just stop
Eddie Rivers like JUST STOP Kyrie ain’t in shaq STRATOSPHERE homie really called shaq a lazy fat bastard smh this is one of the greatest centers ever unquestionably the most dominant unstoppable force in the history of the game. People really don’t know basketball
...and Wade, Bosh , Ray Allen...
Kobe is in the conversation...STOP HATING
No doubt Kobe in convo.. but we all know how that convo ends. MJ.
If you say kobe isnt in the GOAT conversation, you dont know basketball. Turned this shit off soon as he said that
For the MOGOAT, sure. Most Overrated Gunner of All Time.
@@b.j.blazkowicz9169 You play 4 years with smush parker, chris mihm, Kwame brown, Brian cook, luke Walton, medvedanko, chuckyAtkins, Devon george ronny turiaf, jordan farmar, Vladimir radmanovich, andrew Bynum, and see if you dont take 30 shots a game dumb ass.
@@b.j.blazkowicz9169 what he said on top of getting to playoffs with that not so great talent
Bruh the media is so annoying being on this bron train how is Kobe not in the conversation?? Time for a boycott on the media
👏 I agree 1000%, boycott this horrible media!! Kobe is definitely in the goat conversation! these people are really trippin!
@@Troy-xe3zc I AGREE ‼️
@J P I AGREE ‼️
Shake Lapree 3FMVPs don’t lie. LeBron is better
Because of analytics
The disrespect for Kobe Bryant is amazing he's a legend that won 3 straight championships with Shaq and 2 nearly by himself and deserves more respect than what sports media gives him...
Kobe had Shaq, Derek, Ron, John Sally, just to name a few and essentially the same players minus Shaq, plus Pau and Trevor. Tell me who LeBron had outside Kyrie in Cleveland. Granted he had Wade and Bosch and only won 2.
Nearly by himself🤨🤨 nope!
Funny how most pencil pushing analysts like LeBron,but actual NBA players present and past say Kobe's better.. So who should we listen to..🤔🤔
@Clay Sladehence the 6 finals losses pimp so yes he needed one
Keith Mclendon All these analysts care about are stats and advance metrics. Kind of sad to be honest
@Clay Slade all those coaches were nobodies b4 the got with those players hell magic and bird won chips with multiple coaches and what did phil or any other of these coaches did b4 their success ill wait ?
@Clay Slade but when he became a free agent, popovich was right there waiting if he wanted to be coached by a great coach, but we know Greg's not playing them bullshit LeBron games..
Clay Slade Clay Slade he had chances to go to a team with a legendary coach, he chose not to. Lebron likes to control the team including the coaches.
Chris Kobe didn’t put himself in the Goat conversation his Game did.
His game? No he is not top 10
Bam! And there it is well said and it's good to see people here get it and not everyone is delusional over Lebron.
@@unknowndriver6652 3-6 with 2 sweeps
@@unknowndriver6652 woah crayon eater chill bruh 😂
LBJ will chase the ghost of Michael Jordan forever
P H only for motivation it’s all opinionated who knows who’s the best....this era way more talented than anybody mike played against
He don’t even think about Kobe lol
P H nah...he already old and broken!😂😂
P H deadass lol
LeBron was chasing MJ kobe wanted to be better with his moves and other peoples moves also not just MJ
"When he's not in the conversation". The media is so arrogant is disgusting. Kobe IS in the conversation for many fans, he may not be the best for the majority of them, but make no mistake about it, he definitely is in the conversation. And to many fans, he's ahead of LeFraud.
You know it’s funny to me how before Kobe retired it was clear lebron was better than him and it was acknowledged. Now all of a sudden since he’s retired all of these notions that Kobe’s better than lebron are coming up, very interesting. Your idea that fans are more objective than media and and former basketball players is also hilarious 😂
@@titusisking I never said fans are more objective, but whatever. Now that you mention former players, there are many who would pick Kobe over LeBron.
And speak for yourself as far as being acknowledged that when Kobe was playing LeFraud was better. He's played his entire in the joke conference while Kobe played his entire career in a conference with some of the greatest players ever.
Jaime Sacristán Rivas when u say the media is disgusting and that for many fans Kobe is in that implies that fans are more objective. And as former players go, there are players that also pick lebron over Kobe, it goes both ways. Then you act like this year was lebron being exposed but you don’t take into account the team wasn’t healthy all year, lebron missed 18 games and was in position to make the playoffs quite generously in fact, and he talent around him severely underperformed. It’s not going out on a limb to say he would have made the playoffs if the team were healthy.
As far as Kobe was concerned, it wasn’t just me acknowledging lebron was clearly better, most of the media on podcasts, talk shows and even players acknowledged this after lebrons 3rd ring. In fact in this podcast they even say Kobe’s legacy is being rejuvenated because of what’s happened this year. Kobe did play in the West for his career, Kobe also missed he playoffs in his prime, Kobe also played with shaq. These are all facts, take them as you wish.
Only Lebum fans thinks Lebum is goat or better then Kobe
@@titusisking Kobe only missed the playoffs once in his prime, so stop. Two no one cares what the media says or fans that proves nothing. Lebum lost 6 finals only thing he goat of or better then Kobe of is losing. Only person apart of those 6 finals is Lebum and Lebum only. Injuries? More like excuses try again Lebum fan. Every team goes through injuries. Pacers lost there all star for 50 games so stop. Clippers don't even have an all star and still way better then LEbum and the Lakers. Lebum not even better then Shawn Marion or Jason Terry just go watch 2011 nba finals.
He’s definitely not putting LBJ in front of him🤦🏾♂️Chris is wild
Right😂..Fuck is he talkn bout
kb 2003 Kobe in denial then
@J P so what every advanced that when you take into account games played puts fuck a finals record
1. JORDAN
2. LEBRON
3. KOBE
@@has3219 Naw Bro. All Y'all Count Is Stats. If That's The Case Kareem The GOAT
@@demasceionbyrd7840 kareem played a big chunk of his career when there was no 3 pt line
9:20 Chris you must be crazy why the hell should he be “humble” and rank LeBron ahead of him? He came into the league before him, he’s his OG!! Jordan sure but GTFOH with that LeBron stuff. Humble for what?🤨
these dudes are silly af and have an agenda to keep bron in the goat convo at all cost
How is Kobe not in the conversation? You're literally talking about him right now. Many people are putting him in that conversation. It's the media trying to push this narrative of him not being in the conversation.
Several advanced stats list
1. MJ
2. LEBRON
8-12. KOBE
meaning hes an alltime great but just not with those two guys. I honestly tend to agree with that. Kobe didnt have the physical attributes to be as dominant as jordan. For example jordan had hands bigger than kawhi making it so much easier to maneuver in air. Jordan also jumped higher and had a more explosive first step making it harder for defenders. Think about this Jordan shot 44.5% in his last year to bring his career fg% down to 49.7%. KOBE SHOT 44.7 FOR HIS CAREER. that just shows u the gap between kobe and jordan which is massive
@@has3219 I never said they were near Jordan. But if you are a top10 player, you're in the GOAT conversation. You can be discussed with them.
2. Lebron is not number 2 all time. Kobe (7) and Lebron (8) are 7-8. Not higher than that.
@@SShaBazzz EXACTLY ‼️ ‼️
@@has3219 There is sooo many biases is this statement.
Fucking facts💯
The Kobe disrespect is ridiculous. Man was a beast!!
Yea top 10-15 beast
@@23beats28 Top 2 or 1 young fan🤫🤫
Only the younguest fans or stupid fans said that Kobe dont be in the GOAT conversation, he is the only player that can be in the same level than Jordan 🔥🔥
@@pablorp4234 and your a delusional Kobe fan
Why would he put LeBron ahead of him? Lol. Brouissard is funny
He’s a Lebron apologists probably getting money from clutch sports on the low
@@dealhoundllc754 when are these fanboys going to realize some people will never buy their narrative that LeBron is something he would never be. To be able to compare LBJ to MJ they must take down Kobe and now Durant. They even ignore Kareem and Russell, Magic, ...once they clear the way they will be ready to attack. They've done that. they tried to dethrone MJ. Such a clear agenda for a loser!
Because he is lol. He beat him 19 out of 23 head-to-head meetings, and his numbers in those games were better across the board. There's been more revisionist history when it comes to Kobe''s legacy more so than any player I can think of. He was a selfish player; It's not a coincidence why he has more missed shots than any player ever. He has more missed game winners than any player ever, but people reflexively repeat this whole "Mamba mentality" nonsense.
+ross grimes Facts
@@verlongrimes0971 haha but this kobrick fan acting like he hit every shot down the stretch in the playoffs
I remember when Kobe was at his height all the shows would argue him vs Jordan. Once he retired nobody compares him to Jordan. Now it's Jordan vs LeBron. When LeBron is done they'll argue the next guy vs. Jordan. The NBA just wants the public to believe they're seeing the latest and greatest.
LBJ was out of the GOAT conversation when he had 3 HOFs on the same team and only went 2 of 4
so did Lebron .. WADE & BOSH .. Stop being little punk.. U
Who the 3 hof he went 2 and 4 wit
TITAN DMC , if I need to go through this then you’re definitely a casual fan....
Wade, Bosh and RAY ALLEN....incl lbj that’s 4hof on one TEAM
Kobe had 4 hof on the same team and lost to Detroit
@@bGzzzzz and ray Allen was on the team for only 2 years
I remember Skip, told Chris, "you sold your journalistic soul to Lebron" He wasn't lying lol
trollsRtrix give up the lebron hate fam it’s bad for your health
Exactly. How is Lebron in GOAT convo when he's already played more seasons than MJ and has less accomplishments?
@@tiredoffools8929 bingo!
@trollsRtirix send me the link to that LOLLLL
@@docallentv czcams.com/video/h_h6Vm4GzWg/video.html
Starts at 3:20 mark
This clown said Kobe didn't have energy to play defense. That was the best part of his game. Wtf dude talking bout
Maybe if he wanted to but we all know he only played D when he wanted to
@@lebronsthebest6 I guess a 12 time all defensive selection means he didn't want to play defense. Most among guards.
He lost any spec of credibility when he said that. 60% of his career was all defense.
Kobe got away with a few of those last all NBA defense selections by reputation....but a great defender nevertheless
@@rods7028 stop it
Stop it already. If LeBron is in the conversation and I don’t know why but if he’s in the conversation then Kobe is definitely in the conversation period.
EXACTLY ‼️ ‼️‼️
Numbers dont lie. Lebron should be in the convo easy. Jordan never faced a team in the finals that was better than his.
k yells so that magic team lebron lost to was great? And that maverick team? Stop it
@@augustuspayne306 don't nobody have to stop. Everybody has a moment in they career that wasn't the best and that's lebron's. Also yall kill me acting like the mavs were trash. They swept Kobe's Lakers, they beat the thunder. That team was well coached and their bench was solid unlike Miami
k yells nah stop it lebron and his dream team was favored to win that series
I’m convinced that the media don’t like Kobe
They know he dont like them either.lol
They say yhe true kobe is not even top 10
@@unknowndriver6652 Kobe is top 10 and better than Lebron. Most former players have Kobe ahead of James.
Otis Driftwood keep speaking facts
@@otisdriftwood7094If a lot of people actually did their homework instead of regurgitating the media's false narratives. They'd see Kobe Bean's quite higher than 10. We can agree though, that he's head and shoulders above LeBum James.
He said Kobe 10ish maybe like yeah you don’t know basketball Broussard. A real clown and fanboy for Lebron
Espn top 10 all time players
1.Jordan 2.Kareem 3.LeBron 8.Duncan 12.Kobe 😂😂😂
Actually that makes sense. I always place Kobe between 5-10. I have MJ and Kareem above him undisputedly. Then career-wise, LeBron, Magic and Larry are above him. Then you could make an argument for Wilt, Shaq, Bill and Timmy D but honestly I place Kobe at 6. If he had one more MVP and 2004 didn't exist, he's 3/4. If he got 2 more MVP's and 2004 didn't exist and he didn't blow a 3-1 lead then Kobe is number 2 all time in my books. But they happened and if we want to hold Kobe to GOAT standards then we need to acknowledge his shortcomings.
@@akshaysundru482 nah bron took himself out when he said he was the goat
2 OF THOSE IDIOTIC FOX SPORTS AND ESPN ANALYSTS! LEBRON FANBOYS!
Kobe more like 5-8 maybe
When you are soft, you proclaim yourself as a GOAT, but when you are really great your actions speak louder than words.
Remember when Kobe challenged Lebron one on one in all star game and Lechicken passed the ball asap? Kobe just shook his head in disbelief along with other players. Does anyone know what year that was? I would love to see it again.
2012
2013 all star game
Kobe 12 time all defensive teams and nobody brings this up
@David barnum Facts- they only talk offense, but to score 30 and go and lock up is tough. MJ did not have to do that when Pip came he took every tough assignment. Kobe gaurded gaurds and forwards. I never seen Lebron gaurd in the backcourt like Kobe. Defense is part of the game.
Relax stop acting like kobe made first team all defense 12x lol
Brian Johnson made it 9x
Btw Jordan won DPOY! THAT PART
@@brianjohnson2725 Smh He's Tied With Jordan For Most 1st TeaM ever So...
I don't understand how 6 finals losses with 2 sweeps gets you in the GOAT conversation. If Kobe isn't in the convo than neither is LeBron because Kobe was better than LeBron.
Agreed Lebron said Kobe is better back in 2008-2010… and the way he said it, it wasn’t based on rings, just based on Kobe was the best active player at that time
Broussard has always slighted Kobe. I agree Jordan is the greatest but Lebron is not greater than him.
LeBron better then Kobe period
Jared Kens Lebron is NOT better than Kobe... Sorry to burst your bubble.
@@theunknownblack2689
LeBron better player then Kobe 😂
@@theunknownblack2689
1.Jordan 2.Kareem 3.LeBron 4.Wilt 5.Magic 6.Bird 7.Hakeem 8.Shaq 9.Duncan 10.Kobe😂
Jared Kens I actually have lebron rank at the 8th spots....
Michael Jordan is the goat, hands down. Statistically lets put things into prospective, everyone is going crazy by what James Harden is doing this year. MJ did this virtually his entire career while shooting 50+%, while attempting significantly less 3 pointers and free throws. 10 scoring titles in 13 seasons, this isn't even my goat argument, just putting things into perspective.
@Josua Burke.. EXACTLY.. and now consider that MJ was also making 1st Team ALL-DEFENSIVE teams to go with those Scoring Titles. He did that 9 times!
Fam harden putting up 36 a game, broke wilt streak, mj only has one season where he posted a better ppg average. To say he was doing that every year is a laughable reach
Then there’s the fact that most of these players would have gotten hurt had they played during MJ’s time. You could play defense back then and put hands on guys. Can you imagine a lot of these guys playing against the Bad Boy Pistons? Jordan had to go through a team trying hurt him. Some of them would hold up but a lot of the guys considered the best would fall apart mentally, physically, or both.
@@choppertoteme5007 mj was way more efficient and avg more and clutch we not gonna talk about the beard in the playoffs with his choke ass
@@choppertoteme5007 Harden's streak was impressive no doubt, however with 6 games left of the season hes still 400 points shy of 3,000 total on the year. When Jordan averaged 37.1, he broke over 3,000 points. MJ averaged over 30 for 7 straight years, 31.5PPG on 50+% shooting for 13 straight years. So when i said "virtually" i meant it.
At 34, kobe led the lakers to the playoffs with a team on the injury report as much as this current lakers squad. This was also the year he tore his achilles, walked back on the court and drained 2 FTs, lakers won 118-116. The following year bron had cramps game 1 of the finals, had his teammates carry him out the game and spurs won by 15.. Kobe’s will to win and compete is why he ranks higher than bron in my book. MJ , Kobe , Bron
Bron made it to the finals sooooo
@@rods7028 and loss
@@Forgemnobut he advanced further.
@Rod S He blamed the damn air conditioning in the spurs arena on why he lost lmfao .. Kobe has played thru every injury possible and never complained or used it as an excuse for losing in the finals. Meanwhile Lebron shows up after the loss post series in an arm brace saying he’s injured even tho he doing off the backboard dunks
@Rod S Also kobe was in the west his entire career and made it to 7 finals .. if you go just off of Lebron’s final record he only beat the best team in the west 3 times out of 9 .. so he would have only been to 3 finals if he was in the west that’s facts .. 3 for 9
81 points, 12 3pointers in 1 game. 5 games with 50 or more in a row. Triple threat.
And what? In a regular season when nobody cares.. in play offs kobe was nobody and Jordan GOD.. shut up kid
But you want to cherry pick one gamers 😂
@@jaredkens394 ... That is how it usually works. There were plenty of games Jordan could have ran up the score but shut it down, passed the ball, rebounded, played defense and sat out when needed: 1992 Finals - Game 1 comes to mind.
@@kcire-tv3wy see what u fail to realize he wasnt running up the score he had bums and his team and lossing so he had to score that muxh...remember he outscored the mavs by himself 62-61 thru 3 quaters and sat out the whole 4th quarter cuz he ddnt need to
@@tramarparker7725 .... What you fail to realize is if his team were full of bums, he outscored the Mavs all by himself AND he sat out the entire 4th quarter, then how was he able to do that with bums maintaining the lead in the 4th and LA winning the game???
What you stated makes absolutely no sense.
Kobe Bryant is the most skilled basketball player of all time. Period.
How is he not in the conversation?
Chris Broussard are you gonna cry again if someone say something negative about LeBron? Are you gonna diminish other legends to defend LeBron? Toxic media.
Kobe's the most skilled I admit
But Jordan was the most sound and skilled player of them all
He made everything matter
Most skilled mean shit.. and kobe is not jordan is the original he did all those move and even more before kobe but anyway moves does not make you great , winning make you great and kobe is not in jordans level not even close..
Is that why Tayshan Prince shut him completely down? 😂😂😂
James Posey too shut Kobe down.
Chris must be represented By Klutch Sports 🤦🏿♂️
3rdworldcountry: I’ve been saying this for years! Brian Windhorst, Nick Wrong, Colin Coward, Shannon Sharpe... All those dudes work for Klutch! You can’t tell me otherwise
kb 2003 i know. It's just pathetic what all these fuckers are preaching, and how even more pathetic that Lebron wants to spread these narratives to brainwash these dumbass fans of his
@@kingxvch546
Yet Chris says 1.Jordan 2.LeBron
Django Bravo i think broussard is one of many who get paid to push the lebron narrative. For me its MJ then Kobe then Bird the Lebron. For big men it’s Kareem, Russell, Wilt and Duncan.
I'm the best. Kobe 2nd. LeBron 3rd.
1.Jordan 2.Kareem 3.LeBron 4.Chamberlain 5.Bird 6.Magic 7.Hakeem 8.Shaq 9.Duncan 10.Kobe
@candy girlll I'm not sure how old you are, but Jordan had people debating whether or not human beings could fly now. And that's not even mentioning what he did for the game, the shoe game, and how people didn't even imagine doing things in basketball until they saw him do it.
@candy girlll and it all came natural, unlike LeBron's hype beast ass.
Jordan, Kareem, Kobe, Wilt, and Shaq.
@@genesims6319 Lebron aint better than Kobe, Bird or Magic. You are nuts. I would put Kobe ahead of Duncan and Shaq. In order to put Lebron ahead of Kobe you have to buy into this narrative that winning doesn't matter. And that going 3-6 in the finals is better than going 6-0 or 5-2.
Shaq never averaged more than 3 or 4 points than Kobe when they played.. one hell of a robin. Kobe also beat the same Celtics that made LeBron run to Miami and create a super team and kobe did it with only one all-star
Speak the truth Tevin lol, facts
cant be goat and be 3 and 6 in the finals. LOL. Excuse for losing in 2011? 2017? even 2014 (by record margin) ill excuse 07, 15 and 18. Mind you this is playing with 3 of the top 15 players for 4 of those appearances.
Exactly if he had a shred of killer instinct he'd be 5-3.
AlxFonso Gaming because you said so?
Your taking his team efforts as his....he showed up except for Dallas and was young vs the spurs the first time
Johnny Ali you mean if he was selfish?? That killer instinct shit is bogus all that means is being selfish instead of making the right basketball play which you are taught
@@JohnDavis_90 5~3?bro that's better but even that isn't acceptable for goat. If he wants to be second best with 5~3 but that record isn't goat either especially with the super team in the east
Kobe literally played with injuries and almost no help for a good part of his career and still won 5 titles. Lebron gets injured once and has had more help then Kobe and still hasn’t passed him in chips. Of course he’s going pass him with individual statistic because of the era we are in but imagine what Kobe would have done in an era where you can drive and you will get a foul every time because people can’t touch you? Omg it would be over. I’m not going to say he’s better then Jordan. Personally Kobe is my favorite player but you can’t deny Jordan’s greatness and influence. Lebron is great but I don’t think he’s better than Kobe. Not looking to argue with anyone.. just my opinion.
Chiva: I agree with 95% of everything you said.
Kobe played with the most physically dominant player of the last 25 years.
At 34, kobe led the lakers to the playoffs with a team on the injury report as much as this current lakers squad. This was also the year he tore his achilles, walked back on the court and drained 2 FTs, lakers won 118-116. The following year bron had cramps game 1 of the finals, had his teammates carry him out the game and spurs won by 15.. Kobe’s will to win and compete is why he ranks higher than bron in my book. MJ , Kobe , Bron
@@dnice4145 went to 3 finals without him too and won 2 of them. How many finals Shaq went and won after Kobe?
@@Kangman02just stating a fact that's all.
Best guard, Jordan; best forward, Duncan, best center, Kareem. But it is open for debate. But Lebron should not even be in this conversation; he’s the best marketeer.
Your right Lebron doesn't belong in this conversation. I put Larry Bird ahead of Duncan, even MJ said that Larry is the best forward of all time. Lebron always has excuses when he loses. He blames his teammates or tries to say his hand was broken when he got swept.
Jordan's GOAT end of story.
Yep Chris just exposed himself of not knowing the game of basketball... I gave him a pass by mentioning that damn 4th seed argument but now it’s confirmed smh
I absolutely agree ‼️‼️
Did you expect the man called the mamba to say anything else? Not MJ but, closest thing ever to it.
Why isn’t Kareem in the conversation? I think his numbers are up there with MJ, lebron hasn’t past him yet in my eyes
FACTS
Because Kareem was the best player only twice in his 6 finals wins.
Kareem is the GOAT.
Both these guys have been disrespecting Kobe their entire broadcasting career! But when you ask NBA players who have played against Kobe and LeBron 90% say no question it’s Kobe! Kobe is just cut from a different cloth he’s straight Savage! You get the same answer when you ask players who they would want to take the last shot! Kobe!
He for damn sure wouldn't say LeBron is better 😂😂🤣😂😂 Chris wants Kobe to be a sucker
Chris get off this lebron bandwagon. He's not a top 3 player of all time.
iluvcakes19 laughable literally by any statistical measurement you can’t put kobe ahead of lebron
iluvcakes19 Facts 🤣🤣🤣
@@choppertoteme5007 Kobe is 5-2 in the finals and Lebron is 3-6(LOL). Winning matters and is the whole point of playing the game. Lebron is not a top 3 player of all time. You wanna talk stats? Going by stats Bird was better in EVERY category. PPG, RPG, APG, FG percentage, FT percentage, 3PT FG percentage. Bird was also a better defender, a better passer, was a clutch shooter and never made excuses when he lost. Get off Bron's jock. MJ said that Larry Bird was the best forward of all time, this was only a few years ago. I'll take the Goats word over some Bron fan on CZcams. Most former players have Kobe ahead of Lebron.
it's only the MEDIA who says Kobe isn't in the GOAT conversation ... but yet PLAYERS and FANS always say he's in the conversation ... maybe the media is just wrong even though players always come on their shows and tell them Kobe is in the conversation but the media has its own narrative ...
Bullshit.. tell me just one player that says kobe is the goat then ill bring you 50 thst says jordan
@@unknowndriver6652 I Believe He Said GOAT Conversation Which He Is Nigga. I Can Show You Players Saying Kareem is Better Than Jordan So What's Your Point?
I'm not in the media and also think Kobe isnt in the conversation. Don't be speak for everyone genius.
meg didnt kno you was a pro player bro. Could’ve swore he said players always say different and you’re clearly not a fan so yea.
@@trejones9751
Yeah Isiah Thomas nba player just said 1.LeBron 2.Jordan 3.Kobe out of these 3 😂😂
I think Kobe’s level of control, tolerance, & patience is remarkable! having to deal with his level of competitive skills & greatness be diminished by the media.
Kobe is close friends with MJ and cool with Bron but Lebron is not close with MJ theres a difference so Kobe having a little competitive fun...plus he didnt just come out an say he's the best like lebron, he was asked a question and it was a funny setting.
Chris Bronssard alot of us didn't need this year to know that LeOverrated wasn't better than Kobe don't try to push that narrative that it took a year like this for most of us to start seeing the truth just cause this is what it took for you and other current bronsexuals and now some turned former bronsexuals most of the fans here and many everywhere who didn't buy into the media hype machine of pushing LeChoke as the goat knew he was just enjoying a cakewalk being in the weaker east for all those years
Coming from a Latino. You come across as hateful. Generally black ppl belive LeBron is the GOAT. Whites and Latinas believe Jordan and Kobe are.
@@kanayoboonstraw7338 WTF !?!? LMAO!!! SMDH!!! That's gotta be the dumbest comment ever on CZcams or anywhere wow what does my ethnicity have to do with anything or anybody's here in this topic ??? uhh last I checked Jordan and Kobe are black like Lebron too soooo wtf are you talking about why tf are you reaching ???? 🤦♂️
it's not a race thing it's a some people (of all kinds of ethnicities btw) a.k.a you lebrontards don't know what you're talking about vs some people (of all kinds of ethnicities too) a.k.a us Jordan and Kobe fans that do thing
so don't try to race bait or pull out the race card all the time yeah unfortunately there is still racism and it should be called out but that isn't the case here at all you're reaching bad
people (of all races) that try to make everything about race all the time people like you are almost as bad as the dumbass racist's themselves cause yeah you might not have all the hate but you're holding us back just the same from being one people by constantly separating us saying everything everybody does or says is race related that mentality is as archaic as primitive as a racist's one smdh
Kobe been the best and the most skilled. Everyone knows no one wants to admit it.
CopterReacts truth
Delusional
CopterReacts Not the best but definitely one one of the most skillled.. Top 3 with Hakeem Olajuwon and Jordan
CopterReacts the media won’t because they never liked Kobe so they will do all the want to down play his career
Greatest shot jacker in history there ya go and how can he be the most skilled ever when he litterally is a rip off of Micheal Jordan everything people wanna ride Kobe's tip now because he's been retired
Players at this caliber should think what they want about themselves , but fans will be the real judges, MJ is first , Kobe 2nd ...and then the rest PERIOUD
I got Kobe then MJ but I like urs too...I can't argue with that AT ALL!
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There's no justification for Kobe over MJ.
@@trutru9018 kobe first 😂😂😂 he is not even top 10 kid you living in a dream
@@jordancole5671 It's All OPINIONS Nigga. Dang Y'all Act Like It's A Fact Jordan The GOAT. It's Not
@@unknowndriver6652 You Should Be Banned From Talking Basketball Nigga
Chris is buggin here
It may seem silly.... But he didn't say anything about Tha GOAT, he said he's a better player than those guys
He's supposed to say that
Its part of who he is
The league is lucky Kobe never had a roster good enough to get him to compete for rings in 05-07 or else there's no debate he would have passed Jordan in rings, the league wasted his prime.
Odd Couple ( mainly Rob Parker): Kobe’s not even in the GOAT conversation.
Odd Couple: Has GOAT conversation w/ Kobe in it!
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Hes not in the conversations b.c of guys like u all.... I'll take kobe any day over labron
It's crazy how people can easily state that Kobe is not in the GOAT conversation which is true but continue to act like Lebron is in that conversation.
If there's an argument for Bill Russell, Wilt, and Kareem, then of course there's an argument for Lebron being the GOAT. He has done things we've never seen from any player in league history. He has a chance to break Kareem's all-time scoring record. He's the most all around player to ever play the game. He's clearly the best passing non point guard to ever play. He's been dominant and held the title for 'best player in the game' longer than ANYONE who has ever laced them up. If that's not a short resume to place him in the GOAT conversation then let's just do away with the conversation altogether.
id personally rank Kobe and Lebron as a tie for 2nd. both of them needed stars to win championships. both of them lost 2+ Finals even with stars around them. Jordan only had 1 TRUE all-star next to him all 6 Finals. Jordan never lost in the Finals.
ThousandairesClub lol Jordan lost multiple times in the first round tho 😂 losing in the first round is worse than losing in the finals
ross grimes true change teams to make finals after he got tired of losing in his prime to whatever team he wants with whatever players! I’ve never seen no shit like that before him!🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Bryan Jacob lost as an 8th seed and 7 seed in the 1st round! Lebron has never been that he missed the playoffs the 3 times he would’ve been that and had lost! Losing in the finals is worse! 8th seed never won a series until 1994. A 7 never won a series until 1987 Sonics vs Denver 2 teams that weren’t shit in 1987. Jordan was going against top 3 teams top 2 defenses! Lebron has been swept twice in the finals only teams this century to be swept in the finals all belong to Lebron! Jordan never got swept after his 3rd season Lebron been swept his 4th season and 15 season! That’s much worse! It shows he only made the finals because he was in the worse era of the eastern conference in nba history!
Can someone tell me how can you be in the goat conversation and you have six final losses the lowest 3-point percentage in finals history of 17 you have the most turnovers in playoffs and finals history you're top three all-time in turnovers in NBA history you averaged 17 points per game in a finals you shot 39% in a finals you got swept twice in finals you got beat by a record margin of points in the finals and also you lost to a old Dallas team and you had a prime D Wade who is the third greatest shooting guard of all time and a prime Chris Bosh who was top five in his position in the NBA at that time but yes you in the goat conversation laugh out loud
Agree with everything you said I don’t like however how people always put d Wade as the third best SG I wouldn’t rank wade ahead of Jerry West and if Harden gets a championship I’ll have Wade at 5th
You forgot that he shot 35% in 2007. CHOKE
@@TheDiegoo17 only reason I don't have him above Wade is because he lost 8 finals. I have to hold him to same standards as LBJ. If LBJ won 5 to 7 of the 9 chips I wouldn't utter a word about him not being second behind Jordan.
@@TheDiegoo17 hmmm, would you take a prime Harden over a prime t mac? Let a for the sake of debate say both stayed healthy all in their prime. I think Tracy may have Harden or it would be very very close.
@@ClassickWORLD I didn't even know that. Never looked at his 07 stats.
You gotta give it up to Kobe all those years in the west having to get through the spurs every year just to get to the finals
Spurs, the Sacramento kings at times as well before the spurs. Those felt more like the NBA championships really at the time. Then get to the finals and sweep the competition
Chris and Rob just so you know Ali didn't coin the phrase "I'm the greatest" he first heard it used by the wrestler Gorgeous
George.
Jordan is the Goat never lost in the finals and and won finals MVP 6 times led the Bulls to a record 87 13 in the 96 playoffs and finals played with the flu in game 5 of the 97 NBA finals still won he was the Ulitmare assassin had skills like no other player and dominated the NBA like no other has done before or after his mental toughness and determination was the at an all time high and that's what made him the best
im a kobe STAN, and as much as it hurts to say, i would put mike as the goat simply because of his influence around the planet, his finals record all be it, playing easier comp than kobe (the rules in the 2000s and skill was higher in general) and his scoring titles. Other than that im taking kobe as the greater BASKETBALL player. Not just greatness (mike) but skill (kobe) Just my opinion respect it or not idc
5-2 vs 3-6 makes Kobe better... Kobe is #2
Kobe is better than LeBron. The media hype is real with LBJ. The truth is LeBron is a top 10 guy, Kobe is a top 5. They're just living in the moment. Both dudes hate Kobe though lmao 😂😂
Nah you got it backwards. LBJ is top 5
Top 5? The media not putting him ahead of MJ, Magic, Wilt, Shaq, Bird, Kareem and even LeBron and others. There's to many all time greats that it's difficult to removed them and replace with someone else. For instance Bill Russell will always be in top ten no matter what because you can't ignore 11 championships.
SteveTKO absolutely laughable Kobe is top 5 he was literally a poor man’s mj, the most inefficient player EVER, who played with the most DOMINANT force to ever play the game. Who he ran out of town btw
@@SteveTKO Kobe is ahead of Shaq and Bird. And if you don't think so you're tripping. More rings, more numbers. Carried the league on his back for over a decade. End of story.
@@brandonlarranaga bird maybe but I'm not putting him ahead of Shaq. That's absolutely crazy. Shaq was a modern version of wilt and Kareem. Someone no body and I mean no body could stop. If Kobe had won the final MVP instead of Shaq I might agree with you but Shaq winning all three proved he's the better player. Why do you think Phil Jackson made the offense run through him?? Because he's the better player. I say Kobe was better after Shaq left Miami.
"Lebron has a higher career fg%!" Yeah, anyone would when half of his career was just bulldozing to the rim and getting every foul call imaginable when he created the contact the majority of the time. Check that ft% tho. 😂
Thank you! 68% of his shots for his career are 3ft and in.
Kareem got how many rings as the best player on his team... I think 3 Jordan got 6 as the best... LeBron great but somewhat overrated because of the weak east he played in and this stat friendly era!
After this season there shouldn't be a damn question if Kobe is better than LeBron, in my eyes that was never a debate
Context of what LeBron and Kobe said was completely different. LeBron really wanted to send a message there. Kobe was participating in the fun of a game for a completely different audience.
Lebron fanboys have to disrespect Kobe to elevate their hero 😂
It's funny.
Jordan>Kobe>Lebron Kobe def in the goat conversation
Kobe not in the conversation. I’m turning this off after 53 seconds
Does anyone know the number for this show? I looked it up and couldn't find anything.
Chamberlain has awesome stats. He lost like 6chips by 9 points but no one mentions him in any goat conversation. Awesome numbers
Jordan is the GOAT
LJ out of the conversation at this point. LJ is great, not taking anything away from him. He can't get ahead of Kareem of Jordan, no way in hell.
Dude, Kobe was in a comedy show... unbalievable. Everybody, every player would say the same.
Kobe is definitely in the convo for GOAT. You guys are full of it.
Duncan should be in that conversation but no credit because he was boring
Chris Broussard...." Kobe had been adamant about how he really don't care about the goat conversation "...Rob Parker..." Well if you're not in the conversation I really wouldn't care either "😂😂😂😂😂 Rob Parker a Savage 😂😂😂😂😂" is he a brotha?....or a cornball brotha? "😂😂😂😂😂😂
Rob with the brick shot at the garbage can 😂😂😂
Can’t be 3-6 in the finals and be the goat hahaha
When MJ made the commercial wit all his rings, He was letting us ALL know.... Hey Dudes... I’m the GOAT 🐐!!!
Its amazing how Kareem and Wilt are always left out of the conversation...
Cause Wilt dominated a weak ass era and Kareem has an arguement his fears are better again competition when it was just getting good with rings
@@chrisg7756 The next generation will say the same about LeBron when the next big name league pushed name happens.
@@17thNO ur right
They even gave Chris the light skin mic🎤 Lol
I'm sorry but Rob Parker takes an L on this one. Not in the conversation? The man's got two more championships than Broussard's boi
foundaz the man played with shaq
@@choppertoteme5007 he did win 2 without him. And no Pau Gasol is barely an allstar and is only 1 dude.
He had shaq. Kobe only won 2 as the man, the other 3 he was a sidekick.
@@trans_1997 sidekick? Did you see his numbers or just parrot random stuff?
Been watching the NBA since the late 80's and Kobe IS the best I've seen followed by Jordan, Larry and Magic.
Better than Jordan?
Yea right. I've seen them all play, and Jordan before his prime live. Jordan is that dude.
Kobe's MVP season numbers mirror Jordan's rookie season numbers. And that's all you need to know!
KOBE!!!!
Their is a difference between saying your the greatest and saying I don’t think anybody is better than Me
That's literally the same thing lol
I don't think Kobe cares as much as people think. I'm not a Kobe fan. But the man won a oscar last year. Came out with a book. And has moved on to the next phase of his life. Him unlike alot of other sports stars is fine with walking away. A true competitor like Jordan, Kobe. They find another challenge to conquer.
dude lebron is not better than kobe
LeBron James averages more points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks and a higher fg%, 3pt% then Kobe Bryant. So its pretty clear LeBron the better player 😉
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots all time and 3x sidekick isnt top 8 all time player
@@stephoncromartie5605 tell me then why has 6 finals losses?
and he played with 2 top 10 players in the league every time he went to finals, if you don't count 2007.
they play for championships not stats
@@stephoncromartie5605Better player? Maybe, but not the better WINNER! I'm not falling for hollow stats anymore. At the end of the day, we play for Wins! Also LBJ = 2nd most TURNOVERS in NBA History, worst finals losing record at 3-6 = 33% (you only win 33% of the time) vs Kobe at 5-2 = 71% vs Magic at 5-4 = 55% & the GOAT at 6-0 = 100%, don't forget those stats now! 😉
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Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg best player carried Kobe 15 ppg and 36% fg to first ring😂
Why is lebron still in this conversation? He's not even in the top 5 anymore
Toxic Jutz he shouldn’t even be in the same breath as Kobe and MJ. Smh
THANK YOU!!!💯
This isn’t a conversation JORDAN dominates the conversation
Nothing Wrong with what Kobe said. That's Mamba Mentality. He is supposed to believe he is the BEST! For a time, in his career he absolutely was the best in the league. We all know he isn't "THE GOAT".... but he is one of the greatest players of all-time.
Kobe in his physical prime.. That's scary stuff
So if he doesn’t get a ring , how is he better than Kobe??? None of y’all arguments make sense!!! Point will be proven, Lebron took advantage of the east & he let dirk steal a ring from him 😂😂😂😂 how tf is he better then Kobe, someone pls help me understand this.
Not then the proper word usage is than! My grammar policing is done for the day! 😬
King Winter right.
The spurs also waxed him when he was in his prime and everyone talks about the great spurs team even though they were all old as hell. The year Miami beat San Antonio it took a miracle shot from Ray Ray otherwise Lebron would literally have been 1 for 4 in finals in Miami even though he had the most talent and pretty much hand picked his team.
Eric Garza , & dirk waxed lebron!!! Let’s play a game.....which defeat would have been easier? Going against dirk in the finals or the SPURS? (Against one player or against a full team that has future hall of fame players) & also it’s been times where the lakers met spurs & lakers got the best of them! Point is Kobe was in the West , toughest division. Lebron was on the east where the best record is like 52 wins 😂😂😂 BIG DIFFERENCE CHIEF.... lebron won’t win a ring in LA (so why’d he come, oh Hollywood nothing with basketball) & has 3 rings & over 6+ losses in the final. That’s y’all king??? 😂😂😂😂 🐐 ❌🚫🚯🚷
12checkmate75 , wrong usage of “!” You shouting with errors, go sit in a corner & I’ll let you know when your time is up.
Kobe NOT in the conversation yet you still mentioning his name. Smh to the disrespect. Dude was simply UNguardable.
1 MJ and Russell
3 Magic
4 Koby (yes koby may have had the toughest road of all of them 5 rings 7 appearances)
5 Tim Duncan (wildly underrated)
6 Kareem (sorry but he is a Batman cant be goat)
7 Shaq (short but most dominant run in NBA history 3 finals mvps 4 rings)
8 Lebron (stat monster but without joining a super team would have zero-1 rings)
If Lebron beating the 73-9 Warriors makes him the goat in his mind. What does that make Dirk for beating the best player in the game at the time in Lebron James who was teamed with a perennial all star in Chris Bosh and a HOF'er in D Wade, with nothing but role players?
Though I believe in the order THE Black Mamba said, Why dont we instead change the acronym from G.O.A.T. to G.O.T E. (Greatest Of Their Era) and just squash the debate???
I'm In Favor Of This
Millions and millions of kids dreamed of being like Mike...... Kobe actually did it.... Why do most players say Kobe is better than Lebron and most analyst say Kobe is better..I side with the players.....
Everyone: Mike never called himself the GOAT
MJ: Never talk to Black Jesus like that
Kobe dont look better is just better.
Only these media host try to say he is not everyone knows Kobe is 2nd behind Mj Lebron should not be in the conversation
The argument about Ali misses the mark. Basketball is a team sport. Fighting is man on man.
Ever since that Colorado case the MEDIA hated Kobe. The MEDIA didn't wanna give him any regular season Mvp votes in his prime years. They barely gave it to kobe in 08, it came down to the final game of the regular season basically and some MEDIA members still wanted Chris Paul to win the award that year.