Reloop RP-8000Mk2 Turntable & Elite Mixer Review
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- In this review we check out the Reloop RP-8000Mk2 turntable and Elite mixer, a pro scratch set-up meant to be used with Serato DJ Pro. It's got the bells and whistles that DJs have come to expect with modern digital gear, and then some! Are they good enough for today's battle DJs? Find out in this review.
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What you guys did not mention is that on the Reloop Elite, you can use Serato effects with standard viny. Every single one. That's the only mixer that has that feature I believe and it kills any hardware effects the S9 may tout.
Thanks, Mr H.
Wow! Absolutely amazing! I am completely blown away by that “tone” platter! Outstanding!!!!
Yea it's something else isn't it?
I didn’t put my hand in turntable for the last 15years. But this video made me wanna buy this setup. I guess I know where my next month pay is going to.
I'd get looking now, there is a real shortage of gear out there!
great review!
DOPE setup! I use Pioneer, but am leaning towards new options and Elite looks pretty solid.
Great mixer👍🏾👌🏾
@Digital DJ Tips, at @27:43 or so Steve says "If I was presenting "Top Gear" that is the way I'd describe it." You two are the "Top Gear" hosts of the Dj realm! You may not be called "Top gear," but you definitely are putting DJ gear through its paces like former hosts Clarkson, May, or Hammond put cars through theirs 🤣. Cheers guys. This was extremely helpful. I just pulled the trigger on a gently used Reloop "Elite" mixer because of your excellent review. Thank you.
Glad to help Mark!
Thanks for this!
No problem!
the Elite has its lowest buttons a bit near the up down faders.Some djs might find themselves hitting those when doing fast hand movements.If the pads were slightly smaller that might be better for a clearer lower section
Reloop ROCKS!
Love my reloops, time will tell how they hold up
Nice one :)
Pioneers harware effects have always been brilliant and i used to have a pioneer mixer that i used for years.Inever found any other mixers to beat pioneers hardware sound effects
Typical Hanpin quality with the play on tonearm... Same problem with the PLX-1000... You can carefully tighten the bearing to not have play tho'. Great video as always . Good job.
I use the Elite with Rane 12’s. Works plug and play flawlessly with the built in usb hub. (I know you don’t need a built in hub to use 12’s but it makes sense)
Would you ever consider trading (hypothetically) elite for a rane 70?
At this point no. However, I probably would have bought the 70 were they released at the same time because I like the fact it has 2 mic inputs. That’s a feature that I would take advantage of since I do a lot of weddings etc.
@@gaarakabuto1 I am ! Mint condition , looking to swap
WOW! That set up is amazing! Great review! I not sure if I’m missed it in the review but, can you use all this wonderful technology with vinyl on those turntables as well, with that same set up??
Yes, you can!
@@digitaldjtips
Ok, now I’m very confused!? I have been doing research on this particular unit for the past two or three weeks, and I’ve asked that same question on different video reviews. Some say yes I can, as you did. And other say no I absolutely cannot. What is the real answer??
If they make a mk3 version of these decks I’d love it if they put the pitch vertically (where the logo is) then they could make a much bigger screen. Also it would be easier to access the pitch rather than reaching over the tonearm. Vestax had a deck like that years ago & Numark had one where you could unscrew & move the pitch from regular to the vertical position. The TTX I think it was.
Some good ideas :)
I've been peaking in at the Elite and it's online reviews. I've seen the ooooh's and ahhhhhh's but wondered two things. How compatible are the rane 12's? And perhaps the V7's (father of rane 12's) as far as functionality?!?
They're nothing to do with the mixer, so they will work exactly the same as they do with the Rane mixer. Same with V7s.
Yes, it just makes sense. What tech were S9 users using for tone play?
The pitch play thats on the mixer and in serato, the turntable version is analog so works on normal vinyl too
2 questions. Can you hook up cdjs without HID modeand have the on board fx still working (I know the serato fx won't) and can I hook up my turntables via USB instead of rca?
Yes, the onboard FX work whatever you have plugged into it. No, you can't hook up turntables via USB.
Hmm one button for in/out manual loop?
But what if I put an in and changed my mind to put it further ? I personally feel safer with a button for in and another for out
Hey Sadiqueat, that's possible. czcams.com/video/mWyMhEvLqX8/video.html
What about serato flip? Can you use the 4 decks in serato with the 2 channel mixer? If so, how do you choose your different decks?
My understanding is no but it’s a serato issue as far as I understand not hardware
it's look like a S9 that cool
Is there any way to make the torque tighter other than the torque adjust nob on top of the turntable. I feel like mine is lagging a bit and I would like it a bit tighter. Thanks!
You should look for a local turntable technician, they might be able to help :)
this turntable have master tempo ?
I ask because this turntable have many function and possible is controlling speed (coloured pads) but what about vocal if I change speed?
This is a software controller for Serato, and so it's the software that provides the functions. And yes, Serato does have master tempo :)
When you begin playback on a song, is Serato playing the track via USB / MIDI or do you still need the control vinyl and phono connected via RCA?
You need to keep the decks connected up at all times when DJing with DVS, as the control vinyl tells Serato what part of the track to play and how fast/slow etc.
Basically it's a €1,600 pair of QWERTY keyboards, since everything is coming from the computer?
Steve lookin straight to the camera.. from some angle, he kinda looks Richie Hawtin/ Jason Statham combo. :)
I'll take that! lol Steve :)
@@digitaldjtips Hey man, I just received my own RP 8000 mk2's the other day and I absolutely love them. At first I was going to go with the Rane 12's but I heard there's some latency lag and also why spend a bit more on the 12's when I can get a TON of functionality for a bit less?
Unfortunately it's paired with a measly Numark Scratch Mixer, I wish it was paired with DJM-S9 but can't find the funds for it atm. Btw, at @15:00 don't you think the toggle paddles would have been better instead? I feel like they are a must since 72 has it, s9, numark scratch etc and it seems like the Elite is cheaper in price because maybe they omitted these out? It's such a dealbreaker for me! Anyway thx!
Paddles are a choice, some like them, some don't. And the Numark Scratch is awesome for what it is ;)
@@digitaldjtips Actually, you're right. The Numark Scratch Mixer definitely packs a punch for it's price, I just want more cuz I'm greedy. :D It's like buying a Porsche but slapping Costco tires on them, I can do better!
@Battosai Jenkins don’t beat yourself up dude, it’s human nature to be greedy! We all want things 😊
Great review
Looks good turntable for DVS and performance
The tone arm gets me tho , it looks the same one on new Technics ???
Being very light , how would it play records that might be bit warped ??
Good test maybe
Tone arms weight is not the issue, as you balance the number of grams of pressure applied to the record using the counter weight.
@@digitaldjtips Yea I hear you
But it looks like it will just bounce all over the groove
With a warped record , something you don't see anyone testing today with new turntables agree ?
Great review tho 100% as always 👍
You guys are quality
Mr F-Swift it wont. took one to the store and tested it out. feels flimsy but in use its solid
@@djtrepound2407 good test tho ? No1 has done that mate
Steve said it in the video, but we don't have a warped record, lol. And I don't want to warp one! :D
like this set up and its a toss up between this and the rane 12s with the 72 though the rane set up is more expensive
Decisions Danielle...
What exclusively does the Elite do when combined with rp8000? What can it do that I can't with my rane72??
Not much, it's really down to aesthetics and price.
Does anyone know if the elite supports post fader effects for stuff like delay or reverb?
Jordan S yes the efx are post fader
I would love a rane twelve with such solutions…I wanna use just like controller without dvs signal 😓. I bought phase, amazing, but still not what I want. I hope Reloop will study a new version without real vinyl too
We'll have to wait and see...
I have had the elite mixer since June when it was first available. The mixer in general is great and it’s functionality is superb. But, there is a basic problem with the quality of the plastic buttons such as the fx on buttons. I have now had 2 break on me in exactly the same manner whereby they crack under the faceplate and wobble about. This then makes them only work intermittently. I have contacted reloop about this
That's a shame, ours is holding up pretty well so far :)
Conrad K make sure you report the outcome, because you’ve aired the same complaint on several reviews of this mixer. You are the only one thus far.
the reloop has not gone for the paddles like the 72 or s9 so in that regard it is different to many recent high end pro mixers .I have Numark Scratch which is like a cut down s9 and i love the paddles
The Elite blows the Scratch out of the water. I just upgraded from a Scratch to the Elite and it's light years better
@@mrh5792 yes and much more expensive.
@Danielle King unfortunately that seems to be the case with a lot of dj equipment. I don’t think decent production gear is so outlandishly expensive.
7I have 2 of the Reloop turntables. Turntable 1 when I'm scrolling and turning the knob to the right makes the list go down. Turntable 2 when I'm scrolling to the right makes the list go up. Is there a way to adjust this so turntable 2 scrolls down the list like turntable 1?
Good question, but I'm not sure! Maybe ask Reloop directly.
@digitaldjtips I did, and this is actually the first time they've seen anything like this. They told me to disable Midi in the settings, but that didn't work. I'm still working on it.
I had to get the encoder replaced. Works fine now. On another note, the Reloop brand is great, but like Denon, the resale is terrible.
The Elite looks great, but I think I'd really would miss the FX paddles of the S9.
My only gripe with this mixer is the fx on buttons, they are easy to miss in the heat of the moment
The on and hold buttons are very easy to use. I like them better than paddles. Paddles take up too much space for what they are for.
Mr H I guess it really depends on how performative you get with the FX. If you just need to turn them on/off, a button is perfect and also saves space, but if you need to do quick togles of FX on or off for tricks, the paddles are much more expressive.
can someone put together a video of reloop elite mixer with the rane 12 turntable; i would like to see how the two would interact?
Good idea!
Yes, you guys should do a video of that, if its all serato based, it shouldn’t make a difference, but i would love to see the interaction of both, especially high intensity scratching....
That's exactly what I'm looking for 😂
+1
What is the price for the Elite Mixer, and is it worth the money?
🎚🎛🎚
€1250. Even saw one for €1050 on Thomann
I love mines
In Australia currently (April 2020) the Elit3 is half the price of the S9. Half!
Can i scratch with dvs and mix real 12" records using same cartridges without damaging real records?
Yes
i used pioneer and its a great brand but when it comes to the s9 it has been overtaken .Also pioneer is overpriced and part of that is the name .The s9 is a great mixer but has its faults like the price and the paint has a habit of flaking off especially around the crossfader.I used pioneer with the first cdjs and then the scratchable follow ups and an early four channel mixer which is probably still being used somewhere.I jumped ship when other brands started to innovate in a direction i liked .I never liked pioneers static jogs and turntable technology also made some leaps like the Stanton STR8 series .I had some rather pretty decks with master tempo which was odd on a vinyl deck.Later this was dumped as dvs took over and software did that instead.Those decks had reverse ,straight tone arm, a wide pitch range and 33 45 78 so i could play my partners old 78 records and even quite warped records would play because of the straight tone arm which tracked better though it was potentially harder on your vinyl so a good stylus and cartridge was needed.Pioneer were stubborn about those static jogs and then when turntables didnt die out and actually became popular again they brought out rwhat seemed to be a poor afterthought of a range of turntables just to cover all bases.Pioneers dominance has at times been a bit much .Also there needs to be more stuff like Numarks new mixer as not every new dj wants controllers or cdjs but gear is bonkers in terms of pricing.I wonder how kids that want to do turntablism manage to get a decent set up that wont leave them totally broke for months
Credit card debt.. basically my story lol
Can you use serato scratch bank on the user pad modes?
Good question, not sure! Ask Serato support.
Thanks for the reply back.
the reloop is a bit closer to the rane 72.The s9 was the first in a run of new decks that give the dj greater control over Serato but later mixers that superficially look similar have taken a few leaps ahead since then
They need to make an elite mk2 with a big screen In middle like rane 72 and s9. Then I would grab it. If they had that and the 3x innofaders it would be the best one out
Nice ideas!
Why are we still hiding the pitch control behind the tonearm?
Thanks for watching :)
I bought a DJM-S9 and (2) PLX-1000. It ran me around $3000. But, keep in mind that unless you are a 20/30 year veteran and have a basement full of vinyl records, then this will be a very expensive "controller". I would only buy a setup like this, if I was VERY serious about "turntablism". I don't like having to depend on a software or computer for my gigs. I would rather have spend money on a XDJ/CDJ or a standalone unit. But again, if you plan on getting into competitions, then go for it.
For sure, it's a very specialised setup - not for everyone!
Aha😂
Would like to see an experiment if it works with Traktor 3 and Rekordbox DJ
Could easily be mapped to both
The re loop mixer is crowded on the top half.You will need to have agile elegant fingers for this
Not really. The Elite is huge and it's very easy to move around on the mixer. Nothing is too close together and it flows every well. Very easy to use mixer. I love mine. Just got it last weekend.
Wurstfinger, wa?😅
Best "battle"mixer for the price. Personally, I believe it's more of a party mixer, than a battle mixer...
Why would you say that? It's laid out like classic new-school battle mixers such as the DJM-S9
@@digitaldjtips My good friend! How's it going?! To me, the ELITE and Seventy-Two are more of a party mixer because it has a lot of in-depth functions that a dj controller would have. The S9 is more of a "battle" mixer 1st and party mixer 2nd because the access is fast, quick, and straight to the point. The ELITE and Seventy-Two shows so much info, like BPM. I can REALLY rock a party with those two mixers with ease. But you can technically battle with all 3 mixers...
djseasickbaby I feel you. The s9 is like a race car, big engine, aerodynamic etc but not all the crazy options like a luxury sedan with built in touch screen and navigation lol. I personally own the Elite and I’m a big fan. My only gripe is the filter (tweak fx) isn’t very full sounding and overall layout is kind of busy. Functionally I love using them with my Rane 12’s.
@@jmoak311 I know, right? The S9 is the prefect battle mixer. But if you plan to use it as a party mixer, you might get disappointed. But, you right!
@@jmoak311 it's possible to adjust the filter resonance in the utility menu of the mixer. Further, you can also map the internal Serato DJ Pro filter to the Tweak Fx knob when set to custom mode (green LED).
I see a lot of unnecessary buttons/features on the turntable which wouldn't be used because their already on the mixer? My mate owns this turntable and he reckons they've over done it! Better to get the 7000 which are more user friendly & standard issue.
Yeah, there is a bit of duplication if using with Elite, but that would be great were you using with a mixer that was not also a controller, for instance.
Kommt darauf an wie gut man alles nutzen kann, bzw ob man genügend Talent dafür aufweist..😅
Why aren't there paddles!?
Well most mixers don't have paddles to be fair
@@digitaldjtips That's true but I only compare it to the Rane 70/72 and the S9 which are very similar and both have paddles. And I just don't see the reason why they weren't also included on the Reloop.
I guess they wanted to do it a bit differently...
90 degrees. lol
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@@digitaldjtips You said the turntables we're turned 45 degrees. They are turned 90 degrees.
Ah, gotcha! Yeah, and I didn't even realise when you pointed it out! It's because they spin 45 records, that'll be it! :D
sorry, but in every video about turntables I get the feeling that you have something against Technics ...
I bought a new pair of mk7 and the turntables are great. The tonearm is of high quality, the new engine concept and the pitch are a dream. Even though the RP 8000 has great midi features, a super OEM never gets the Technics quality. The new MK7 has become a very good turntable again. And just as real vinyl records are used, you can forget about the pitch of the Reloop .... That goes for all Super OEM with digital pitch. But keep talking Technics bad, the turntable is still sold out all over the world: P And we'll see which turntable will have a better resale value in a few years. By the way the ELITE mixer is a great product ;)
Cool, we have nothing against Technics, I think my 1210 Mk2s are the best turntables ever made, just think the 1210 Mk7s are not so good, especially in loud clubs.
I used technics for over 20 years until they gave out on me. So guess what? Being that it was mid 90's and I didn't want to spend that much money on turntables, I bought a pair of gemini pdt6000's. And in my opinion, they were as good or BETTER than the 1200's -- at less than half the price! Other dj's as well confirmed how good these units were.
Point being, I no longer view 1200 as the go-to turntable anymore, especially nowadays with so many options. And let's not even start on the PRICE.
We have nothing against Technics, we just think this is a duff and overpriced turntable. Mk2s are wonderful.
@@digitaldjtips Yeah I loved my 1210''s. And I was a little sooped up because I was stationed in Germany in '83 so I was able to buy them before most dj's in the states. When I got back, all the dj's were sweatin' my turntables
However, if I wanted to buy turntables today, I wouldn't even look at technics. My first choice would be this reloop 8000.
@@DJActionVasquez as long as you want to play only with dvs you can certainly do that, for all those who buy a turntable in order to also play vinyl, I can not recommend the super OEM turntable.
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Tip for guy on left "try talk a bit less"...
If your gonna bring a guest in to explain things, then why would you talk for him the whole interview? Give him a chance to really explain things. We don't care who is talking as long as we get the info!
Steve isn’t a guest, he’s a joint tutor with me (the guy on the left) here at the school. Thanks for your feedback nonetheless.
@@digitaldjtips My point is more relative so. Either way great job, it's really excellent presentation thanks.
Fantastic information, but honestly Phil I’d rather watch a solo video of your own than you constantly interrupting your knowledgeable guest.
Ha ha yeah I did only let poor Steve say "yes!" for the first two minutes! He gets into his stride later though :) Thanks for the feedback.
yeah forget the latest not technics.Super expensive and like a cheap knock off