I keep hearing the opposite. I own a 57sl and love it. I’m on the market now for a new mixer. I cannot make up my mind. I’m thinking the atrak mixer or the 72 mk2
Great review and comparison. I like the features of both the reloop elite and Rane 70. One thing I have noticed while using them both is the sampler volume on the Rane 70 is much better.
Excellent review, love your honesty and opinion! I feel like I'm missing something because I have never played on an S9! I have a Rane70 and I am very happy with it. Only thing it is missing is a Magville crossfader!!! But I will be installing an innofader very soon!!!!!
@@ClevelandTerry Any chance you will do a similar review for DJM 750 mkII, Allen Heath One 43C or PX5, Denon x1850, and (maybe) Reloop RMX 90? These four mixers have similar price and features to each other but with important differences that would be highlighted in a section by section comparison like for these three mixers.
The video I've been waiting for, two thumbs up! I'm about to flip a coin, but I'm leaning toward the Reloop Elite over the Rane 70. Unless Pioneer changes my mind with an updated S9 in the next 50 days. The new mixer will be a birthday gift to myself!
Hi clev, really enjoyed you vid as usual, think there missing a huge section of “Sound Quality “ of the Audio cards -thats really the bottom line what you get from those awesome mixers. Stay safe and keep on your amazing work, Hige thumbs UP from Israel.
Cleveland Terry , are those the points they get or is it who is in the fist olace and so on, I always used to think that rane has better sound in general. And pioneer should pit their 64bit soundcard in the new mixer (taking from the djm 900nx2) wich has an awesome sound. Way better than the s9. Have a good day!
Great Review! One thing, though: The RELOOP ELITE MIXER is actually built for the RELOOP MK2 8000 HYBRID INSTRUMENT TURNTABLES! Those usb plugs on the back panel you couldn’t figure out are specifically for the turntables. Once connected, it UNLOCKS FEATURES FOR THE MIXER AND TURNTABLES. It appears that RELOOP created the ELITE and MK2 8000 for TURNTABLISTS by TURNTABLISTS. I think most DJ’s who aren’t into that aspect of the culture would find some of the positioning of the knobs, etc annoying, and out of place. Together they are designed to assist the turntablist to push the boundaries of his skills! I think you should do ANOTHER REVIEW on the ELITE from that particular perspective, as it is the PERFECT mixer when COMBINED with its mate the MK2 8000 HYBRID INSTRUMENT TURNTABLES for turntablists!
lets see if Allen & Heath takes over Traktor from N.I. and puts out an updated Z2 MKll. I still have a Traktor Z2 that I use, but here's really no other options in the $500-$1000 range for turntablist. A lot of DJ's like the Elite, 70/72 & S9 but don't want to pay that hefty price for them. I don't think you would have to do too much, stretch it about 2 1/2 inches, upgrade the Innofaders to the latest, double-up the pads and move them above the faders, add on board effects and decide if you want to go with the paddles or not......and there you go, Traktor Kontrol Z2 MKll!
Great grading, my next concern is two USB spots for Laptops, because 2 laptops i own and gonna be using Soon, possibly....🧐😁’ we shall see...but i still enjoys my S9 by pioneer, Rane is next up in my life, Terry great job ....👍💥
I have the reloop elite and absolutely LOVE it. Will probably buy another mixer which will most likely be the seventy. ^^ Dont really need the screen of the 72 (mk2) or the pioneer djm s11.
Great video man. Came across it when looking for info on the Reloop. I'm looking to get into mixing, no plans on scratching. Mainly using my record collection and Serato occasionally. Seems like these are mainly geared towards using a DVS. Do you have any recommendations on a mixer that would fit my needs? Leaning towards the Reloop at the moment, but interested in anything else
I just bought the Rane 70 as a Battle Mixer and a fan of O.G. style HIP-HOP D.J. BATTLES and mixing/ scratching etc.. but also to help pay bills and just have fun as a D.J. I mostly find myself doing weddings and anniversaries and sometimes the occasional Holiday party. which I enjoy doing and the money pretty decent overall. the Rane 70 punches the Ticket for all of those types of uses. i've done a good amount of research {including watching your channel to learn alot about the use of these Mixers} before I pulled the Trigger for the purchase. it's 2023 Summer time... and I felt I needed that upgrade to really dive back in to GIG. work now that it's absolutely not ILLEGAL to be free.. { for a couple of years it was illegal to be a free American}. so since I sold my Numark NS7 III and some other gear I needed to upgrade anyways.. so it was back to you tube research and google and guitar center and sam ash and etc.. checking on the gear I need and want for my style of deejaying.. the Rane 70 to me is the best bang for the Buck$ but these comparisons are good to see the difference in Size and aesthetics and features so thanks for your personal and professional D.J. opinions on these things. u always speak on the good and the bad. thats fair.
The Rane sound quality is leaps and bounds above all other mixers I've used. I'm assuming it has better digital to analog conversion in it. The one thing that my 72 seems to be lacking is in the microphone preamps. There's a graininess to them that sounds terrible and not nearly as good as my Pioneer. Great review bro!
Great review, I'd buy the 70. The only thing I didn't hear about was looping. The Elite has an encoder that is -to my opinion- the best way to loop and instantly change length. Much easier than the buttons the two others use. Still buying the 70, though! :)
Good comparison review 👍- I still like the S9 over the other 3. Mostly because I use both Serato and Rekordbox. So I will wait for an S10 or MK2 to upgrade. Also, not sure if the Reloop or 70 have auto beat detection for the effects.
well good to know what other djs think from this features of these 3 mixers. i wish they will be on a 4chanel mixer too. i know mixars did a 4chanel mixer with those features. but i don't like the overall quality of it. further i want a traktor compatible mixer. i used traktor since my beginning of dj-in in 2003 (@ the age of 9 years) and i don't feel comfortable to change the brand of software on wich i learned my skills. i know serato and rekordbox are in some points the better options but its for me like an old friend^^. rane is compatible with theire latest product-line with traktor but like i said: just 2 chanels. and i love toi mix on 3 or 4 chanels. if some of you ask: i mix mostly drum and bass.
Hello, how important is the " slicer mode" for a DJ. Cause I couldn't find it on the Rane seventy. Is there a way to do the same with Hot Cues. Best wishes to you.
Hi, Thank you for the revue. I have a djm s9 , happy with this for serato, just fine. But for analog vinyle, s9 pre amp aren't good. My mixars duo (my backup mixer) sound better ! I want to upgrade s9 for Rane 70. How are flex FX on Rane 70 with analaog vinyl ? Pre amp are much better ? For you, it's a good décision ? Thank you !
Hi ... you mentioned the 2nd rane 12 USB-A port is only 2.5v and can’t be used with phase dj ... but can it be connected to the second USB-B port on the rane 70 (assuming you don’t have a second laptop connected it)?
hey terry great video sir and i think i found my answer to what ive been searching for been on the fence about buying the Pioneer DJM-s7 or the Rane 70 because they have them usb slots too hook up media players. as i go a new laptop with less ubs ports.. the pioneer list on the mixer 5V 500mA same as my usb ports on my laptop. but i like the features on the rane 70 BUT you just said thier two usb slots are only 2.5 volts ? i went and looked at the rane 70 owners manual and it dont say ? can you confirm where you got your info from sir thanks its came down to these two mixers so i need to make a decision soon :-)
@@ClevelandTerry I’m regretting it now a little. (I love the 70) but I held out for a Djsm09 upgrade for so long I gave up. Couple of months after I buy it the pioneers 11 comes out. There are some features on that mixer that I would have loved. Oh well 😃
all three are great though the S9 from Pioneer needs an update as its getting old.Between the Re Loop Elite and The Rane Seventy there isnt much to choose except that the Elite is cheaper.I like the Seventy and it may be a future purchase but im not in any hurry because i have a Numark scratch that on a price performance ratio beats all of these .How ever if you were to hold me down....er and demand i choose...i guess the Seventy would just about win this race..
I got the S9 and Rane 70. Both are good but I noticed my 70 had some latency when I was mixing. Had to go into Serato and turn the latency down. If any one knows how to activate the sample and FX from the 70(without touching the laptop) let me know. Just got it this weekend 10-17-20.
Now the effects and abilities options on S9 make S9 great!!!!!! But the pads do need more upgrade if pioneer decides to upgrade, feeling varies to me Terry with pads, .5 is cool for Rating for S9 i would had given a 1!!!!! Truthfully
Well, I agree all the conserns about your ratings as I also have the same taste as you when it comes to all features those mixers does, except one thing . is the crossfader on elite as it comes with innofader, does it really works well than other two cross fader? Innofader buttery super resposive open and close etc, well pioneer and rane do the same thing , i wouldn't feel any difference on those. I had reloop rm 90 and i did installed innofader on it. but it wouldn't impressed me as i expect. so my opinion you would knock off the additional .5 on elite and add that to the s9 , because it's a kind of old now but they build this cross fader for scratches first. just my opinion not to judge, and i respect you for all your hard work for explaining , reviewing and help making decision to buy the best equipment in the market. Peace - Love from Dallas TX
Good vid. I’m a bedroom DJ, I like to work on beat juggles, scratching & mixing. Mic is not an issue for me. I’m upgrading from Rane 62…I bought a new Mac with an m1 processor that the 62 doesn’t support (arrg!) Do you have a recommendation between the S7, Rane 72 and the Reloop Elite? I’ve seen a few vids suggesting the Reloop is better. I’d appreciate your thoughts. Between the 70 and the S7… it seems the S7 is more accessible vs the 70 have better in line faders and build quality. (I don’t take the mixer anywhere typically). I’m looking to make/produce dope isht. (Note: I also like what I’ve heard about the midi features on the S7, so either the others have similar?). I appreciate your input. BTW subbed!
If you had a choice to pick a rane seventy two mk1 at 1800 bucks or a reloop elite for 1000 $ Which one is the chose as an on hand dj that has used both! The thing is i wanted to get the rane twelve mk2 as controlers! Is the elite mixer a good match for those controlers? Given that the twelves and the elite mixer Will cost 2500$ And the dual twelve mk2 with the seventy two mk1 Will cost 3k Which one is a better buy? Also bonus the elite mixer could be bought with 2 x reloop rp-8000 mk2 And the case for 2800$ I am mixed up. Given i have phase mwm as well!
I have the Rane 70 I just got but it doesn't seem to have a sharp curve on the CF. From the time you open the fader until you hear sound is more than other scratch mixers I've used. Is that normal?
Man I was going to buy the 70 mixer until you said I can’t use the effects along with the sampler. 😢. I don’t want to buy the 72mkll just for that but it’s looking like it might be.
The S9 maybe dated but let's not forget how long the Rane 57 TTM 57 was out before being dethroned. Now, if I was in the market I would go with the Rane 70. Although I would get the S9 if it was reasonably priced for such a dated mixer. The Reloop is nice and the inofader is a plus, like the Numark Scratch, and adds value but its lacking some key components in the rear.
but if it had never bleed you would have never known that the innofader was adjustable so I think its good they did it for first time users that are not aware
I think I’m the only nerd who uses my DJ gears I/O for production 🤣. My old SL3 was my main interface in my studio for years since I stopped using it for gigs.
great review! i have the s9. I wont be changing it to anything until the s10 comes out- maybe a fairer comparison (when it arrives )to the rane and reloop? Also no comparison on sound quality?
Thanks for the video. I'm not sure which way to go myself, back to the S9, to the 70, or to the Elite (already ruled out for me). I'm also wondering why they didn't put Deck Swap on the Rane 70. It would be sweet if Rane's mixers could automatically read BPM via an analog system the way Pioneer mixers can. I'm not completely impressed with ANY of the so-called "professional" DJ mixers that came out after 2015. I think that putting controls on the front is a bad idea UNLESS the controls are recessed and very visible, whether that is by color coding, backlighting, or anything that makes the controls very obvious in a real-time DJ setting. Even a very simple layout on the front panel would be good. I hear there will be a new version of the S9 coming out. I'll be patient and see how things pan out before making any more 'high-end' purchases. At this time, in my opinion the S9 still makes the most sense (for me) out of the above 3 options.
It may not matter lol but the Mixars Quattro and I think the DUO has instant doubles. You just double click the library scroll nob and it will sync to exactly the same spot the other deck is at.
As much as I would like to have one of these, I can't justify paying that much... why is there such a void in the intermediate scratch mixer range? It's either Numark Scratch/Pioneer S3 entry level stuff or rent payment S9/70/Eliite...
@@DanielleKingdjdinosaur I like the idea of the Scratch, but, for me, it's a little lacking for I/O options. I'm hoping that InMusic will fill the gap with a new Stanton line of mixers
Mixars Duo is another option, but it's damn near the same thing as the Numark Scratch. However it's getting a little old and the cross fader doesn't have post fader fx.
We do understand that these are considered "battle" mixers, right? Battle mixers don't need a lot. You don't have to just battle with them. But that's how they're marketed. So, it's kind of unfair to judge them for other than battling. Most party mixers have four channels. It would be nice to have a TRUE 2 channel party mixer. They kind of do, like the DJM-450. For battling, they have to at least keep the crossfader clear of knobs and buttons. If it wasn't a battle mixer, all the knobs would most likely be on top of the mixers, rather than in the front of the mixer. XLR connection aren't really important. At least not for batting. I still see DJs pluging RCAs out their mixer to another mixer using a sound system. Also, not having independent controls is what makes it a TRUE battle mixer, to me. You have to be fast with your movements. Probably why I don't consider the Rane 72, Rane 70, and Reloop Elite a true battle mixer 😂. My choices will always be Pioneer S9 and Rane 62. It's a "free" country, you buy what you want and use it how ever you want. I'm just saying that these are marketed as BATTLE mixers. Check out ALL your options before buying what's popular.
@@P4boot Yep! That's what it is! This is part of the "engineering/design" of each product; planning what faults/mistakes/errors to have each version so, they can be "fixed" next time. They are not beginners...
Just save for another Month and buy a Rane. Case closed. I got my 72 for $500 off due to it being a demo and it was barely touched. Look for blow outs like that especially at the bigger music stores.
Does the headphone cue on the Rane 70 ever get in the way when doing things like doubles or beat juggling? This was a problem with the old Vestax 05 Pro, and it looks like Rane placed the controls in pretty much the same region. Really curious to hear your thoughts as this is my only concern holding me back from dropping on this mixer. Great video as always.
@@soulworkmusic7289 thanks for chiming in with your experience. Curious to hear other people's experiences too. It's funny, 20 years later, I still sweat those moments of getting a finger snagged in the middle of a battle. Haha.
@@jayslim1 while designing the 70, this was a major concern as well. It seems to be about a 50/50 split on Cue method and placement preference, which is why on the 72 it is different. That said, we did a fair amount of user functional user testing on this point, made some adjustments to account for your exact concerns and the result is many satisfied testers, some DMC world champions!
@@ChrisNumark Thanks for sharing that tidbit and very reassuring to hear. I went ahead and placed my order after seeing your comment. Looking forward to playing around with the new toy.
The S9 is getting outdated but I still chose it over the 72 because it was more straightforward. My biggest gripe is that you can only do one effect at a time. I just wish it was a little more customizable like the 70 or 72
The S9 should lose a point due to the fact that the crossfader isn't crisp until you change the bumpers...and even in that its not as sharp as it should be ..imo (meanwhile the s9 is the one i use)
@@Iphixel I would suggest the reloop 7000mk2, I'm currently using one, 👍👍👍,,, have only used the rp8000 a handfull of times, there was nothing wrong with the rp8000, But I see no need for extra control functions on a t.table if your not going to use them heavily. Second, is that, my thinking was, if any electronics fail with the pads on the rp8000, it's not going to be an easy fix. Which is why I went for the 7000mk2
S9 : not class compliant -> 0 Wouldn't recommend it even with a deal. I hope they changed this on successor they teased on. Could become unusable with any Windows/macOS update or if you buy a new computer.
@ well I guess if you can’t use it on an older Mac it’s because of older versions of Serato not supporting it, but as a class compliant device it can still be used even on a very old Mac with software that supports any sound card/midi device. So yes, there is always the problem with software such as Serato but at least when you have a class compliant device you know your hardware won’t become unusable. You can take a USB mixer from the early 2000s and you can still use it on macOS Big Sur, that’s not the case for former but not that old Rane mixers that weren’t class compliant (57, 61, 62, 64) and the same problem will ultimately appear on the S9. Pioneer now made the S11 Class compliant thigh, that’s good news. They still have to provide a sort of driver for integration with Serato but you can even connect this to your iPad/iPhone if you want and play sort of standalone mode.
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@@jayneural Thanks for your detailed reply Jay. I might test Serato DJ pro on my older mac - which honestly I never did, I was just using the information on the Serato website what is compatible. Using Yosemite on Macbook Pro from 2007 - we'll see ! LOL I use firewire devices for audio archival and production. That's another story of the manufacturers taking away the ports for devices that still have functionality. Cheers.
Just because battle DJs are using it doesn’t mean you should buy one. I have an s9 too. It’s 4 years old. Some people just don’t want to spend the money on upgrading, and that’s ok. BUT I bet if someone gave them a new Rane 70 or 72 they wouldn’t say no.
3 crappy mixers (all digital) none of them bothered to include decent pre-amps... ideal mixer would be Such as the Allen & Heath PX5 Fully analog with Digital circuit and audio interface + Pads + Phase DJ.... this would be all times best mixer ever.
@@muziqvault7082 true by my point was mostly about the preamps... even a battle Mixer would use vinyl right... analog... so It deserves a better preamps for that price.
@@DocFUNKist I get it, for me it's a pain trying to pick a mixer especially with the new ones coming out. My choice would be the A&H db4 but mannnnn.....$2000
Who grades out of 3? 5 or 10 is surely a better system. Your grading out of 3 numbers but state at the start that your not going to use one of the numbers. 🙄
@@ClevelandTerry of course the numbers are important. You had to start using half numbers later on because you didn't give yourself enough room for the review. Excellent and detailed review of the mixers by the way, your content is spot on. Just use a higher number scale.
I hate, for lack of a better term, when you compare my beloved s9 against these second generation mixers. I understand your points and all, but it can't compete. Nobody in there right mind should buy this mixer over the others. Please stop putting in battles they can't possibly win. Apples should go against apples. I have an idea for a video for you. How about a head to head comparison of the iPhone x vs the Motorola Razor 🤣🤣
Reloop elite worst mixer ever , only one channel A is for PC second is useless , buttons are cracked and everything fails , bad quality os sound cheap plastic not happy with it
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I own 2 S9's and just recently added the Rane 72 MKII. The sound quality on the Rane 72MKII is second to none.
I keep hearing the opposite. I own a 57sl and love it. I’m on the market now for a new mixer. I cannot make up my mind. I’m thinking the atrak mixer or the 72 mk2
@@the_truth21what did you go for? Im looking to buy an atrak next week, looks amazing IMO
Great review and comparison. I like the features of both the reloop elite and Rane 70. One thing I have noticed while using them both is the sampler volume on the Rane 70 is much better.
I made up my mind last week and I went with the Rane 70. And I’m getting mine tomorrow!!
Excellent review, love your honesty and opinion! I feel like I'm missing something because I have never played on an S9! I have a Rane70 and I am very happy with it. Only thing it is missing is a Magville crossfader!!! But I will be installing an innofader very soon!!!!!
Great video. The categories are probably the best way to evaluate mixers I’ve seen.
Thank you.
@@ClevelandTerry Any chance you will do a similar review for DJM 750 mkII, Allen Heath One 43C or PX5, Denon x1850, and (maybe) Reloop RMX 90? These four mixers have similar price and features to each other but with important differences that would be highlighted in a section by section comparison like for these three mixers.
Great video man. Im surprised no one has done this before but I love every point you touched on🙏🙏
Thank you
Thank you so much! Absolutely needed this video peace 🙏
Best mixer review ever . Thank you man 👍
Great objective review CT.........!!!!!!!
Thank you very much, exact the comparison that I needed. Top content. Now I hope for some price reduction till I saved enough money💸😁
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New to your channel. But love your analytical breakdowns.
Thank you. I appreciate that.
Great review
The video I've been waiting for, two thumbs up! I'm about to flip a coin, but I'm leaning toward the Reloop Elite over the Rane 70. Unless Pioneer changes my mind with an updated S9 in the next 50 days. The new mixer will be a birthday gift to myself!
I'm feeling the reloop a ton also.
Save another week and go with the Rane all day.
@@sike1dj Rane will serve you longer and a much better sound quality without the problems of if the Company goes under.
The USB ports on the Elite are a Godsend. It's basically acts as a hub where ports are limited. It deserves a bonus point for that.
Hi clev, really enjoyed you vid as usual, think there missing a huge section of “Sound Quality “ of the Audio cards -thats really the bottom line what you get from those awesome mixers. Stay safe and keep on your amazing work, Hige thumbs UP from Israel.
Ran Ben Atar that’s easy. Rane #1 Elite 2 S9 3, but a very low 3.
Cleveland Terry , are those the points they get or is it who is in the fist olace and so on, I always used to think that rane has better sound in general. And pioneer should pit their 64bit soundcard in the new mixer (taking from the djm 900nx2) wich has an awesome sound. Way better than the s9.
Have a good day!
Great Review! One thing, though: The RELOOP ELITE MIXER is actually built for the RELOOP MK2 8000 HYBRID INSTRUMENT TURNTABLES! Those usb plugs on the back panel you couldn’t figure out are specifically for the turntables. Once connected, it UNLOCKS FEATURES FOR THE MIXER AND TURNTABLES. It appears that RELOOP created the ELITE and MK2 8000 for TURNTABLISTS by TURNTABLISTS. I think most DJ’s who aren’t into that aspect of the culture would find some of the positioning of the knobs, etc annoying, and out of place. Together they are designed to assist the turntablist to push the boundaries of his skills! I think you should do ANOTHER REVIEW on the ELITE from that particular perspective, as it is the PERFECT mixer when COMBINED with its mate the MK2 8000 HYBRID INSTRUMENT TURNTABLES for turntablists!
I believe you could also connect a pair of cdjs with the usb hub at the back of the mixer right?
Excellent analyze
lets see if Allen & Heath takes over Traktor from N.I. and puts out an updated Z2 MKll. I still have a Traktor Z2 that I use, but here's really no other options in the $500-$1000 range for turntablist. A lot of DJ's like the Elite, 70/72 & S9 but don't want to pay that hefty price for them. I don't think you would have to do too much, stretch it about 2 1/2 inches, upgrade the Innofaders to the latest, double-up the pads and move them above the faders, add on board effects and decide if you want to go with the paddles or not......and there you go, Traktor Kontrol Z2 MKll!
EXCELLENT video CT!
Thanks bro.
I have the Rane 70 and I love it. But without a doubt, all three mixers are really good!
Agreed
Great grading, my next concern is two USB spots for Laptops, because 2 laptops i own and gonna be using Soon, possibly....🧐😁’ we shall see...but i still enjoys my S9 by pioneer, Rane is next up in my life, Terry great job ....👍💥
I have the reloop elite and absolutely LOVE it.
Will probably buy another mixer which will most likely be the seventy. ^^
Dont really need the screen of the 72 (mk2) or the pioneer djm s11.
Great review Cleve
Great video man. Came across it when looking for info on the Reloop. I'm looking to get into mixing, no plans on scratching. Mainly using my record collection and Serato occasionally. Seems like these are mainly geared towards using a DVS. Do you have any recommendations on a mixer that would fit my needs? Leaning towards the Reloop at the moment, but interested in anything else
I just bought the Rane 70 as a Battle Mixer and a fan of O.G. style HIP-HOP D.J. BATTLES and mixing/ scratching etc.. but also to help pay bills and just have fun as a D.J. I mostly find myself doing weddings and anniversaries and sometimes the occasional Holiday party. which I enjoy doing and the money pretty decent overall.
the Rane 70 punches the Ticket for all of those types of uses. i've done a good amount of research {including watching your channel to learn alot about the use of these Mixers} before I pulled the Trigger for the purchase.
it's 2023 Summer time... and I felt I needed that upgrade to really dive back in to GIG. work now that it's absolutely not ILLEGAL to be free.. { for a couple of years it was illegal to be a free American}. so since I sold my Numark NS7 III and some other gear I needed to upgrade anyways.. so it was back to you tube research and google and guitar center and sam ash and etc.. checking on the gear I need and want for my style of deejaying..
the Rane 70 to me is the best bang for the Buck$ but these comparisons are good to see the difference in Size and aesthetics and features so thanks for your personal and professional D.J. opinions on these things. u always speak on the good and the bad. thats fair.
The Rane sound quality is leaps and bounds above all other mixers I've used. I'm assuming it has better digital to analog conversion in it. The one thing that my 72 seems to be lacking is in the microphone preamps. There's a graininess to them that sounds terrible and not nearly as good as my Pioneer. Great review bro!
Good point about the sound.
This is the first thing I noticed when I received and set up my Rane 72MKII. This is compared to my S9.
Great review, I'd buy the 70. The only thing I didn't hear about was looping. The Elite has an encoder that is -to my opinion- the best way to loop and instantly change length. Much easier than the buttons the two others use. Still buying the 70, though! :)
Good comparison review 👍- I still like the S9 over the other 3. Mostly because I use both Serato and Rekordbox. So I will wait for an S10 or MK2 to upgrade. Also, not sure if the Reloop or 70 have auto beat detection for the effects.
That’s a good point about rekordbox.
well good to know what other djs think from this features of these 3 mixers. i wish they will be on a 4chanel mixer too. i know mixars did a 4chanel mixer with those features. but i don't like the overall quality of it. further i want a traktor compatible mixer. i used traktor since my beginning of dj-in in 2003 (@ the age of 9 years) and i don't feel comfortable to change the brand of software on wich i learned my skills. i know serato and rekordbox are in some points the better options but its for me like an old friend^^. rane is compatible with theire latest product-line with traktor but like i said: just 2 chanels. and i love toi mix on 3 or 4 chanels. if some of you ask: i mix mostly drum and bass.
Thanks so much for doing this. Can you do the updated version with Reloop, Ranes latest (72 MK2?), and Pioneers S11?
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Hello, how important is the " slicer mode" for a DJ. Cause I couldn't find it on the Rane seventy. Is there a way to do the same with Hot Cues. Best wishes to you.
Hi, Thank you for the revue. I have a djm s9 , happy with this for serato, just fine. But for analog vinyle, s9 pre amp aren't good. My mixars duo (my backup mixer) sound better !
I want to upgrade s9 for Rane 70.
How are flex FX on Rane 70 with analaog vinyl ? Pre amp are much better ? For you, it's a good décision ?
Thank you !
Hi ... you mentioned the 2nd rane 12 USB-A port is only 2.5v and can’t be used with phase dj ... but can it be connected to the second USB-B port on the rane 70 (assuming you don’t have a second laptop connected it)?
I am torn between the Reloop and the Rane 70.. was looking at the S9 but after the reviews I can only see myself deciding between the 70 and the Elite
hey terry great video sir and i think i found my answer to what ive been searching for been on the fence about buying the Pioneer DJM-s7 or the Rane 70 because they have them usb slots too hook up media players. as i go a new laptop with less ubs ports.. the pioneer list on the mixer 5V 500mA same as my usb ports on my laptop. but i like the features on the rane 70 BUT you just said thier two usb slots are only 2.5 volts ? i went and looked at the rane 70 owners manual and it dont say ? can you confirm where you got your info from sir thanks its came down to these two mixers so i need to make a decision soon :-)
Looks like I made the right choice on my Rane Seventy purchase!
I guess so. 😀
Was just thinking the same! I love my 70.
I bought a 72 and the moment I touched it I knew it was it. Was sweating for 2 full days though with being overwhelmed by it's possibilities!!!
@@ClevelandTerry I’m regretting it now a little. (I love the 70) but I held out for a Djsm09 upgrade for so long I gave up. Couple of months after I buy it the pioneers 11 comes out. There are some features on that mixer that I would have loved. Oh well 😃
@ that pioneer 11 looks great
all three are great though the S9 from Pioneer needs an update as its getting old.Between the Re Loop Elite and The Rane Seventy there isnt much to choose except that the Elite is cheaper.I like the Seventy and it may be a future purchase but im not in any hurry because i have a Numark scratch that on a price performance ratio beats all of these .How ever if you were to hold me down....er and demand i choose...i guess the Seventy would just about win this race..
I got the S9 and Rane 70. Both are good but I noticed my 70 had some latency when I was mixing. Had to go into Serato and turn the latency down. If any one knows how to activate the sample and FX from the 70(without touching the laptop) let me know. Just got it this weekend 10-17-20.
Now the effects and abilities options on S9 make S9 great!!!!!! But the pads do need more upgrade if pioneer decides to upgrade, feeling varies to me Terry with pads, .5 is cool for Rating for S9 i would had given a 1!!!!! Truthfully
Well, I agree all the conserns about your ratings as I also have the same taste as you when it comes to all features those mixers does, except one thing . is the crossfader on elite as it comes with innofader, does it really works well than other two cross fader? Innofader buttery super resposive open and close etc, well pioneer and rane do the same thing , i wouldn't feel any difference on those. I had reloop rm 90 and i did installed innofader on it. but it wouldn't impressed me as i expect. so my opinion you would knock off the additional .5 on elite and add that to the s9 , because it's a kind of old now but they build this cross fader for scratches first. just my opinion not to judge, and i respect you for all your hard work for explaining , reviewing and help making decision to buy the best equipment in the market. Peace - Love from Dallas TX
Like I said, they are all great crossfaders, but I was super impressed by the innofader. It just feels different. Your mileage may vary. 😀
Good vid.
I’m a bedroom DJ, I like to work on beat juggles, scratching & mixing. Mic is not an issue for me.
I’m upgrading from Rane 62…I bought a new Mac with an m1 processor that the 62 doesn’t support (arrg!)
Do you have a recommendation between the S7, Rane 72 and the Reloop Elite?
I’ve seen a few vids suggesting the Reloop is better.
I’d appreciate your thoughts.
Between the 70 and the S7… it seems the S7 is more accessible vs the 70 have better in line faders and build quality. (I don’t take the mixer anywhere typically).
I’m looking to make/produce dope isht.
(Note: I also like what I’ve heard about the midi features on the S7, so either the others have similar?).
I appreciate your input.
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If you had a choice to pick a rane seventy two mk1 at
1800 bucks or a reloop elite for 1000 $
Which one is the chose as an on hand dj that has used both!
The thing is i wanted to get the rane twelve mk2 as controlers!
Is the elite mixer a good match for those controlers?
Given that the twelves and the elite mixer Will cost
2500$
And the dual twelve mk2 with the seventy two mk1 Will cost 3k
Which one is a better buy?
Also bonus the elite mixer could be bought with
2 x reloop rp-8000 mk2
And the case for 2800$
I am mixed up. Given i have phase mwm as well!
I have the Rane 70 I just got but it doesn't seem to have a sharp curve on the CF. From the time you open the fader until you hear sound is more than other scratch mixers I've used. Is that normal?
Nevermind apparently you have to adjust the Fade Cutin on your computer Rane control panel. I thought that was adjustable on the mixer itself.
Man I was going to buy the 70 mixer until you said I can’t use the effects along with the sampler. 😢. I don’t want to buy the 72mkll just for that but it’s looking like it might be.
Where does the new 72 jawn fall into place here ?
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The S9 maybe dated but let's not forget how long the Rane 57 TTM 57 was out before being dethroned.
Now, if I was in the market I would go with the Rane 70. Although I would get the S9 if it was reasonably priced for such a dated mixer. The Reloop is nice and the inofader is a plus, like the Numark Scratch, and adds value but its lacking some key components in the rear.
but if it had never bleed you would have never known that the innofader was adjustable so I think its good they did it for first time users that are not aware
I think I’m the only nerd who uses my DJ gears I/O for production 🤣. My old SL3 was my main interface in my studio for years since I stopped using it for gigs.
Pri yon Joni I thought about you when I said it. Lol
When my Mixars Duo break I’ll get the Rane 70
Maybe you should mention that the Reloop is about 500 usd cheaper compared to the other two
What is a dedicated silent cue?
great review! i have the s9. I wont be changing it to anything until the s10 comes out- maybe a fairer comparison (when it arrives )to the rane and reloop? Also no comparison on sound quality?
The S9 has the weakest sound.
s9 mk2 will only have3 fx and independant pad mode. not worth compromise. and the s10 will have a screen.
There is no S9 mk2
@@ClevelandTerry 3 versions available 2 ch mid(s9 mk2 ) s11 and s11 909 edition to exact
I think I’m pretty in the know too. 😀 There will be NO mixer named S9 mk2.
Rane 72 users were gifted the Instant Doubles and Silent Cue with Firmware 1.5
Should we be expecting your CDJ3000 review
Thanks for the video. I'm not sure which way to go myself, back to the S9, to the 70, or to the Elite (already ruled out for me). I'm also wondering why they didn't put Deck Swap on the Rane 70. It would be sweet if Rane's mixers could automatically read BPM via an analog system the way Pioneer mixers can. I'm not completely impressed with ANY of the so-called "professional" DJ mixers that came out after 2015. I think that putting controls on the front is a bad idea UNLESS the controls are recessed and very visible, whether that is by color coding, backlighting, or anything that makes the controls very obvious in a real-time DJ setting. Even a very simple layout on the front panel would be good. I hear there will be a new version of the S9 coming out. I'll be patient and see how things pan out before making any more 'high-end' purchases. At this time, in my opinion the S9 still makes the most sense (for me) out of the above 3 options.
The MAG3 & Mag4 faders are trash. I had to swap them out for an Innofader on my 72
It may not matter lol but the Mixars Quattro and I think the DUO has instant doubles. You just double click the library scroll nob and it will sync to exactly the same spot the other deck is at.
Not instant doubles. All the mixers have that. I’m talking about Silent cue.
@@ClevelandTerry My Bad. Yes Silent cue is dope. I made a good choice. Although I'm going to be eating Ramen noodles for a few months LOL
As much as I would like to have one of these, I can't justify paying that much... why is there such a void in the intermediate scratch mixer range? It's either Numark Scratch/Pioneer S3 entry level stuff or rent payment S9/70/Eliite...
Try the Numark Scratch my dear.
@@DanielleKingdjdinosaur I like the idea of the Scratch, but, for me, it's a little lacking for I/O options. I'm hoping that InMusic will fill the gap with a new Stanton line of mixers
@@blix1200 A newline of Stantons that would be great
@@DanielleKingdjdinosaur I have my fingers crossed so tightly, I think they might snap!! 😆 I have some ideas!
Mixars Duo is another option, but it's damn near the same thing as the Numark Scratch. However it's getting a little old and the cross fader doesn't have post fader fx.
We do understand that these are considered "battle" mixers, right? Battle mixers don't need a lot. You don't have to just battle with them. But that's how they're marketed. So, it's kind of unfair to judge them for other than battling. Most party mixers have four channels. It would be nice to have a TRUE 2 channel party mixer. They kind of do, like the DJM-450. For battling, they have to at least keep the crossfader clear of knobs and buttons. If it wasn't a battle mixer, all the knobs would most likely be on top of the mixers, rather than in the front of the mixer. XLR connection aren't really important. At least not for batting. I still see DJs pluging RCAs out their mixer to another mixer using a sound system. Also, not having independent controls is what makes it a TRUE battle mixer, to me. You have to be fast with your movements. Probably why I don't consider the Rane 72, Rane 70, and Reloop Elite a true battle mixer 😂. My choices will always be Pioneer S9 and Rane 62.
It's a "free" country, you buy what you want and use it how ever you want. I'm just saying that these are marketed as BATTLE mixers. Check out ALL your options before buying what's popular.
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Is there a capable company that can mix those mixers into a perfect one, and ask only $999.99 for it?
That should be amazing.
They'll not do that, they need to keep making 'new'/'improved' products, to keep collecting our money. 😂
@@P4boot Yep! That's what it is! This is part of the "engineering/design" of each product; planning what faults/mistakes/errors to have each version so, they can be "fixed" next time. They are not beginners...
Suggest that to Vestax?
Just save for another Month and buy a Rane. Case closed. I got my 72 for $500 off due to it being a demo and it was barely touched. Look for blow outs like that especially at the bigger music stores.
Does the headphone cue on the Rane 70 ever get in the way when doing things like doubles or beat juggling? This was a problem with the old Vestax 05 Pro, and it looks like Rane placed the controls in pretty much the same region. Really curious to hear your thoughts as this is my only concern holding me back from dropping on this mixer. Great video as always.
I haven’t experienced that at all.
CT, you juggle? It won't get in the way, small and deliberate with placement as the S9... 05 had full size faders.
@@soulworkmusic7289 thanks for chiming in with your experience. Curious to hear other people's experiences too. It's funny, 20 years later, I still sweat those moments of getting a finger snagged in the middle of a battle. Haha.
@@jayslim1 while designing the 70, this was a major concern as well. It seems to be about a 50/50 split on Cue method and placement preference, which is why on the 72 it is different. That said, we did a fair amount of user functional user testing on this point, made some adjustments to account for your exact concerns and the result is many satisfied testers, some DMC world champions!
@@ChrisNumark Thanks for sharing that tidbit and very reassuring to hear. I went ahead and placed my order after seeing your comment. Looking forward to playing around with the new toy.
"We're gonna be grading on a curve"
> proceeds to explain exactly not grading on a curve
Just nitpicking, great video ;)
Trust me, I could have nitpicked a lot more lol.
@@ClevelandTerry My comment was nitpicking ;) I'm not complaining about depth in the video, that's great!
I'm thinking reloop too but the hardware effects are really hard to give up
Rane 72 MKll is really cool
I’ll let you know when I get it.
I have one it’s the truth brother Terry T.H.E.E. Truth peace
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The S9 is getting outdated but I still chose it over the 72 because it was more straightforward. My biggest gripe is that you can only do one effect at a time. I just wish it was a little more customizable like the 70 or 72
The all Copy the s9 like straight up
Yeah but the s9 has a ton of similarities to the 62... minus the fx paddles. you could go back and forth
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The S9 should lose a point due to the fact that the crossfader isn't crisp until you change the bumpers...and even in that its not as sharp as it should be ..imo (meanwhile the s9 is the one i use)
After using the Elite for 2 years, The S7 for one year and the 70 for 3 weeks, I would go with the Rane 70,
Built quality is 👍.
I agree.
Was the Elite not good? I want to buy it with the rp8000 mk2(+Mwm phase )or maybe rane 12 with rane 72 mk2 …
@@Iphixel if your a light handed, during mixing, then I would suggest the reloop elite, only because of price point.
@@karlkalauni3321 thanks! Now Im doubting: 1) Rane 72 mk2 + rp7000 mk2 OR 2) reloop elite + rp8000 mk2’s . Price is same for both…
@@Iphixel I would suggest the reloop 7000mk2, I'm currently using one, 👍👍👍,,, have only used the rp8000 a handfull of times, there was nothing wrong with the rp8000,
But I see no need for extra control functions on a t.table if your not going to use them heavily. Second, is that, my thinking was, if any electronics fail with the pads on the rp8000, it's not going to be an easy fix. Which is why I went for the 7000mk2
S9 : not class compliant -> 0
Wouldn't recommend it even with a deal. I hope they changed this on successor they teased on.
Could become unusable with any Windows/macOS update or if you buy a new computer.
@ well I guess if you can’t use it on an older Mac it’s because of older versions of Serato not supporting it, but as a class compliant device it can still be used even on a very old Mac with software that supports any sound card/midi device.
So yes, there is always the problem with software such as Serato but at least when you have a class compliant device you know your hardware won’t become unusable.
You can take a USB mixer from the early 2000s and you can still use it on macOS Big Sur, that’s not the case for former but not that old Rane mixers that weren’t class compliant (57, 61, 62, 64) and the same problem will ultimately appear on the S9.
Pioneer now made the S11 Class compliant thigh, that’s good news. They still have to provide a sort of driver for integration with Serato but you can even connect this to your iPad/iPhone if you want and play sort of standalone mode.
@@jayneural Thanks for your detailed reply Jay. I might test Serato DJ pro on my older mac - which honestly I never did, I was just using the information on the Serato website what is compatible. Using Yosemite on Macbook Pro from 2007 - we'll see ! LOL I use firewire devices for audio archival and production. That's another story of the manufacturers taking away the ports for devices that still have functionality. Cheers.
I still think the s9 is worth buying right now look all battle dj what they are using
Just because battle DJs are using it doesn’t mean you should buy one. I have an s9 too. It’s 4 years old. Some people just don’t want to spend the money on upgrading, and that’s ok. BUT I bet if someone gave them a new Rane 70 or 72 they wouldn’t say no.
@@ClevelandTerry well lots of dj still have S9 and feel like they not missing anything personally s9 still hold I had a 72 but the feel of it naw
I hear the rane 70 is amazing but I’ve been on backorder for two months I don’t want the S-9 but dammit they in stock
Jay Dee good things come to those who wait. Mine also took a while to get to me.
Cleveland Terry idk what kind of pull you have because after two months it was on my porch this morning!
Lol. I do what I can. 😀. Enjoy it and make sure you watch my full Rane breakdown video if you haven’t.
Cleveland Terry I watched it 20x waiting for my Rane bro 😂 love your content please keep it up!
Why would you not consider the Elite?
In a few months piooner release the DJM - S11 TRUST ME
In my world If it hasn’t been announced, it doesn’t exist. 😀
Yep, you were right haha
@@gustavocalani9381 ahahahahah yess 1 months ago i say it true
S9 over the reloop any day, lack of hardware efx is a deal breaker
lol cleveland it's RELOOP ELITE! NOT PIONEER
It happens. Easily fixed. Thanks for being subtle about it. Lol
@@ClevelandTerry Ayyyyyy but still looking forward to the video! I thought it was a new pioneer mixer sent me off!
3 crappy mixers (all digital) none of them bothered to include decent pre-amps... ideal mixer would be Such as the Allen & Heath PX5 Fully analog with Digital circuit and audio interface + Pads + Phase DJ.... this would be all times best mixer ever.
Just because it isn’t your preference , doesn’t make them crappy.
PX5 is a different category of mixer. Good mixer but not battle type.
@@muziqvault7082 true by my point was mostly about the preamps... even a battle
Mixer would use vinyl right... analog... so It deserves a better preamps for that price.
@@DocFUNKist I get it, for me it's a pain trying to pick a mixer especially with the new ones coming out. My choice would be the A&H db4 but mannnnn.....$2000
s9 is still the best.
Viagra 300mg Everyone has there own opinion on which device the like most. I can’t say that with the amount of gear I try.
No big deal if your running an external mixer.
lol rane 72, S9, elite and last rane 70 ( here is the top)
You are entitled to your opinion but your list should be relative to what I actually reviewed.
Very informative video. No DJ can deny that all three are top of the line mixers. Check out the music at walthits.com.
Who grades out of 3? 5 or 10 is surely a better system. Your grading out of 3 numbers but state at the start that your not going to use one of the numbers. 🙄
The numbers are not important.
@@ClevelandTerry of course the numbers are important. You had to start using half numbers later on because you didn't give yourself enough room for the review. Excellent and detailed review of the mixers by the way, your content is spot on. Just use a higher number scale.
We all know all u guys want us like and share just god damm pick one mixer at the end
I did pick a mixer. I own the Rane 70. I said it in my Rane 70 review. I upgraded from my s9 a couple of months back.
$3500 in mixers 😢
Yooo, the S9 got 2 USB
I didn’t say they didn’t. On the Rane 70 and elite there are 2 additional usb A ports. You are talking about the usb B computers ports
I hate, for lack of a better term, when you compare my beloved s9 against these second generation mixers. I understand your points and all, but it can't compete. Nobody in there right mind should buy this mixer over the others. Please stop putting in battles they can't possibly win. Apples should go against apples.
I have an idea for a video for you. How about a head to head comparison of the iPhone x vs the Motorola Razor 🤣🤣
That’s funny 😀 You have no idea how many people asked for this video. I didn’t do the video just because...it was requested.
Reloop elite worst mixer ever , only one channel A is for PC second is useless , buttons are cracked and everything fails , bad quality os sound cheap plastic not happy with it
Pioneer is trash
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